WEBVTT - Episode Highlight: The Difference Between LeBron And KD’s ‘Decisions'

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<v Speaker 1>Who could I call to put up a billboard in

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else? CYD talk my shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Able to do that? That isn't that's legendary. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of that one. I need that one. That

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<v Speaker 2>one was good. The backstory on that one is funny

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<v Speaker 2>because originally I'm trying to buy a newspaper ad. They

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<v Speaker 2>say it's one hundred thousand dollars just to put a

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper a Yeah, well back then. Yeah, it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>longer ago, but you're right, it shouldn't have been that much.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were looking for estimates and uh, the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 2>plane dealer, because Lebron was coming back home, refused to

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<v Speaker 2>sell it to us. They said, no, we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>They refused our business. Uh, and so we needed an alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>And it turns out that Akron billboards are like much

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<v Speaker 2>less than that, and so so they saved me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money. And it was like eleven or six

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<v Speaker 2>Acron I don't remember how many Acron billboards and they

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<v Speaker 2>all said, yes, Uh, you're welcome, Lebron love Miami is

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<v Speaker 2>what they said. And I was going to fly a

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<v Speaker 2>plane over as homecoming that said the same thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was set up. I had the banner and everything. It

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<v Speaker 2>was set up. I will tell you a secret. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a secret I've never I've never told before that.

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN made me immediately take down the billboards and they

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<v Speaker 2>immediately told me you can't fly that plane. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I got a I got a call from a high

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<v Speaker 2>ranking member of the Miami Heat Organization, UH saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to fly the plane. I'm going to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you can't do that, you can't, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. I'm gone fire. You're gonna get me fired.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna have plause deniabilities that somebody else fly

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<v Speaker 2>the plane. It's gonna look like an action.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever was talking about flying that plane was probably willing

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<v Speaker 1>to go down with the motherucker.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a dark cloud. It was for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We went in a funk for a while when we

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<v Speaker 1>lost the king around here. I mean that, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just natural. It was a little dark cloud. It

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<v Speaker 1>was for a minute when he left.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about that though, So you're in the you're in

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<v Speaker 3>obviously the media uproar when bron chose to come here,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when bron chooses to leave here. So talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Yeah, talk about the highs and lows of on

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<v Speaker 3>your side, what you're hearing, what you're seeing, what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on when he says he's coming and the Big Three comes,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when he leaves. I'd like to hear the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was just profoundly grateful for all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a it's a content bonanza. You're coming

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<v Speaker 2>down to our city and you're making us like this

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<v Speaker 2>just electrical pulsating thing for Paul millsaps Game seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like watching this thing that matters so much to

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<v Speaker 2>the city because it's very much Miami against the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>The only other time it's been like that was University

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<v Speaker 2>of Miami football teams that make him stop being a

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<v Speaker 2>Gator for a second, you know, like those because what

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<v Speaker 2>those those teams were hated and Miami forged around them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like, yes, this is an ethnic fun

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<v Speaker 2>team that trample sportsmanship. You guys were that polarizing without

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<v Speaker 2>any of the bat like, without any of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that was going to horrify the white customer that you

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<v Speaker 2>knew about that you knew about it, that you knew

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<v Speaker 2>about it, right, but you guys. So you're the polarizing

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<v Speaker 2>theme thing coast to coast, and only polarizing because you

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated the championship before we dribbled the basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have hear something crazy because you touched on

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier about how hard it is and it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>People think like, once we got that team together that

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun and and they just messed and it

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<v Speaker 1>just jailed and we just had to we had to parade.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people all the time, nothing about that shit

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<v Speaker 1>was fun until you were riding down the street in

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<v Speaker 1>that parade. That's the only part about that shit that

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. None of that shit was fun because there

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<v Speaker 1>was expectations, and we understood those expectations. If we don't win,

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<v Speaker 1>they gonna blow this shit up. And now we sacrifice money.

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<v Speaker 1>We sacrificed time. Mike talked about this before we sacrificed money.

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<v Speaker 1>We sacrificed time, and we're getting traded some.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun and and we're game away, game away, game in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Away from your sacrificees meant nothing. That gooing laughter about

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<v Speaker 2>the sacrifices that you made, laughing stocks because you guys

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<v Speaker 2>took all the discounts and look at that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be easy. One of the weird things that

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never get though, because God, you guys change the

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<v Speaker 2>sports so much over the last fifteen years, so I

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<v Speaker 2>figure that it's going to be easy that those years,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't easy. And I think you guys get

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<v Speaker 2>the reputation that you have as hard earned champions because

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard. If it had been easy, it would

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<v Speaker 2>have liked Lebron would have been looked at less than

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<v Speaker 2>and Dwayne too if it had been easy. But the

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<v Speaker 2>part that was confusing to me. So Durant sees him

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and Lebron did that because Pearce and Garnett

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<v Speaker 2>and Allen were together, and Durant does it and they

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<v Speaker 2>win easily, and I'm like, well, that must be fun, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they win easily, Like it must be fun to

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<v Speaker 2>play basketball like that. That's the greatest thing I ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>You can pass the Durant, you can or you can

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<v Speaker 2>pass the step and Draymonald do all the shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Only he wants to let me ask you this because

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<v Speaker 1>how was that not fun for him?

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<v Speaker 2>But why?

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<v Speaker 1>And because I want to talk about this, But this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I noticed Why was the Miami Heats team

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<v Speaker 1>hated for the decision we made? But I think Golden

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<v Speaker 1>State team was loved. We were more first go to take.

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<v Speaker 1>They love Clay, they love stuff. That that team were

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<v Speaker 1>first was lifted and they were loved. But when Braun

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<v Speaker 1>came to us, we were hated. Why was that a

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<v Speaker 1>different reaction from the media and from the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I can answer to I think honestly, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>let you answer too, because you'll be You're way better

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<v Speaker 3>at that than I am. But I think the reality

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<v Speaker 3>is like they hated us so much for doing it

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<v Speaker 3>that they had to love someone else to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But before again, right like they hated us for doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>they hated us for doing it. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>you guy saw it on the media side of things,

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<v Speaker 3>but like we it was. It was a blessing to

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<v Speaker 3>me because I'd never been in relevance in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I hadn't been in relevance. Is the reason I

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<v Speaker 3>came here. I wanted to see what I do on

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<v Speaker 3>the stage. I wanted to like either I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>ship myself, I'm gonna actually perform. But that to me

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<v Speaker 3>is they hate us so much that now you need

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<v Speaker 3>someone to like. And when they did it, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was more of the like.

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<v Speaker 2>On that side.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was because step and play with light

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<v Speaker 1>skin That's what I'm just being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>See, see you know it was going around. I had

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<v Speaker 2>the undercurrent of it, and I'm like, I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not. I felt it off him, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like thinking to myself twenty words, he says light skinning.

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<v Speaker 2>But also am I wrong? Am I wrong? Well? I

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<v Speaker 2>look not how the two teams were perceived. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you're wrong. And I think there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of variables. And I think you were first and and

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<v Speaker 2>and look that doing the thing on the stage. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to tell you that arrogant black athlete. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it is that you arrive at arrogant black athletes celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>something before it has been earned is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>seen a certain way. So there's that, but i'd put

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<v Speaker 2>that off to the side. I'd also put in there

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<v Speaker 2>that Dwayne and Lebron throughout all of that, became adult

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<v Speaker 2>spokesman for things ranging from UH Trayvon Martin to UH

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<v Speaker 2>to we need to improve our schools, and became adults

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that Steph and Clay have not had

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<v Speaker 2>to because Dwayne and Lebron were already doing that and

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<v Speaker 2>we're sort of leaders there and and like I I

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<v Speaker 2>found that entire time fascinating, captivating for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different reasons. Uh, the brotherhood of Dwayne and Lebron was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron coming here and taking a little brother role and

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<v Speaker 2>doing two media sessions a day, and and and wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to learn from Dwayne. It's a it's a beautiful story.

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<v Speaker 2>If I wrapped that story in the Olympic flag and

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<v Speaker 2>made it about like Olympic patriotism, we would love that team, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Currac Actually Steve I wrote that one time, and

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr wrote me a note saying before he coached

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors, what a beautiful thing to write in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of what that was going on, where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know how much America would love this particular

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<v Speaker 2>team and this story? It's pieces right when I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm saying, Mike going to his mother's deathbed with

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<v Speaker 2>a team who drives a convoy to the funeral home

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<v Speaker 2>to be at his side.

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<v Speaker 1>In Liberty City, nine o'clock I'm like Pat by nine third,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to get up out of here, real talk. Pat,

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<v Speaker 1>you got about thirty four minutes. I'm gonna walk you

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<v Speaker 1>to Yoka. But Pat was, yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Came that he would love Dwayne the way that he does,

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<v Speaker 2>the game balls that I'm going after Tyler Hansbro like

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<v Speaker 2>all the stuff you guys had. I was so proud

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<v Speaker 2>to write about it, to see it, to feel it,

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<v Speaker 2>to be next to it, to profit off of it,

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<v Speaker 2>because you guys brought a whole economy of attention down

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<v Speaker 2>here to sports. You guys, I moved to the Cleveland Er.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a studio. I'm doing a speedo back with

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Barkley. We're at the center of the universe in

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<v Speaker 2>sports because you guys brought all of that here. Him

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<v Speaker 2>with his bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, Motheruck's still bad still. But I don't what you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about that story. I'll tell you something that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know about that story. As me and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about that story and we talked about what

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<v Speaker 1>they offered him, and we talked about what we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to do because of the brotherhood that we have,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike crazy as hell. He was like yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't going, I ain't going, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was that's that's what my brother was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what we what we're gonna do here, because we always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have the chance to play together and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that since college. But that was around the

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<v Speaker 1>time that the game was changing and the three point

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<v Speaker 1>shot was what it was. It was either dunks in

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<v Speaker 1>the paint or it was three point shots. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was the choice at that moment, but we we

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<v Speaker 1>were having conversations behind the scenes because you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that brotherhood and those things and those conversations. And then

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<v Speaker 1>another point that people don't know is Lebron didn't know me,

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<v Speaker 1>never played with me. Chris Bosh didn't know you never played.

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<v Speaker 2>You were on Dwayne Wade's word is what you were on? Dwayne?

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<v Speaker 2>You that Dwayne Wade cash that check. And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, we're all going to share our money here,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is gonna be fun, right the five of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is gonna be fun. Well, we'll just we'll

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<v Speaker 2>take the discounts. We'll sign you guys, weren't They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>signing contracts until the stage was coming up right, and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are taking millions less and and it's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to think that sports would be such a cauldron that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys couldn't enjoy any of that when it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like from where I was watching, it was the most

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<v Speaker 2>magical thing that for me, it broke you did. But

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<v Speaker 2>how but how great is that you wanted to test

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<v Speaker 2>yourself against? How cool is that? Mike? This is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying about what the cool parts of this story were.

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<v Speaker 2>How cool is it that he wants to test himself

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<v Speaker 2>against the best? He could have scored twenty a night

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<v Speaker 2>for Memphis for the rest of time. No, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play against I want to play against the best.

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<v Speaker 2>They think he's taking a shortcut. No know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>give me fifteen shots a game, I swear to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll score thirty aday. Like he knows he can shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>He's taking a lesser role in the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifice of everybody wants to be about winning, right, brotherhood winning?

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<v Speaker 2>These are cool things for him to physically test himself

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<v Speaker 2>against the best. I don't know what it's like to

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<v Speaker 2>get up in the morning. Is his physical body It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it would be awful lose a shoe, lose

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<v Speaker 2>a shoe, starts making threes, helps win the championship. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking beautiful story.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way you see it now, it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Way you see it now? Did you always see it

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<v Speaker 2>like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or now if you've got no odering, you've become more

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<v Speaker 1>experienced than there's different ways to look at this media thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that how you see it now? Well, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even the media thing, it's sports in life. I really

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<v Speaker 2>I one of the things about the sports media that

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<v Speaker 2>we love sports. We're just not good enough to do

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that you guys did, but telling the

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<v Speaker 2>stories about it and loving it and celebrating it and

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<v Speaker 2>being awed by the strength in it. I've learned that

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<v Speaker 2>sports has taught me that. Like I told you when

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<v Speaker 2>I started my career, the job was to remind you,

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<v Speaker 2>to criticize or to be critical to not you, know,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and What i've learned is just to really by

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you, guys having relationships with. You you guys

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<v Speaker 2>were maximum. Professionals you guys always answered our. Questions where

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<v Speaker 2>the high, school we're still the high school nerds that

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<v Speaker 2>are near the jocks in high. School everything in adulthood

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<v Speaker 2>tolerated us buzzing around the locker, room and he never

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<v Speaker 2>made us feel the way that you, know the locker

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<v Speaker 2>There but you guys were, like always exceedingly, kind always exceedingly,

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<v Speaker 2>BELIEVE i wish it were between media and athletes because

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<v Speaker 2>it would be more.

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