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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's me your man named g

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant socially distancing from the world. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: just let's just get this housekeeping out of the way right.

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Speaker 1: As of our last show, we took last week off

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Speaker 1: and for those of you who listened to the most

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Speaker 1: recent show, you know that, uh well, change is happening again.

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Speaker 1: We went through this a couple of years ago where

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Speaker 1: we kind of went through a transition in the pod,

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Speaker 1: and we're doing that again. Michael Fabriano no longer with

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We wish him well. I know he's doing

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Speaker 1: big things over at sirius x m uh so you

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Speaker 1: can check him out there. But that means we are

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Speaker 1: sort of in transition, um, And it seems like a

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Speaker 1: good time to do that because we are approaching what

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Speaker 1: should be the start of training camps. We're planning to

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Speaker 1: do a whole lot of different things around training camper.

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Speaker 1: We're hoping, you know, knock on wood, fingers cross us

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Speaker 1: to have some interviews to get some players, that sort

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Speaker 1: would be a good time, a fun thing to go

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Speaker 1: through and have what I'm calling, uh fantasy camp, where

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Speaker 1: we go through by division, each of the eight divisions.

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Speaker 1: We'll be doing two shows a week, so you can

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Speaker 1: do the math. That's four weeks and bring in some

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Speaker 1: some names maybe you know, if you're deep in these

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Speaker 1: fantasy streets. Names maybe you don't know, and hopefully we

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Speaker 1: can introduce you to those. But we'll kind of have

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Speaker 1: a couple of guests each and every week, each and

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Speaker 1: every show to talk some of the divisions, uh, and

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Speaker 1: generally just just have some fun. So we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in just a second. But before we do that,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go and talk to my favorite producer, Senior

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Speaker 1: Edward L. Murphy. Esquire, Murph, how did you enjoy your

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Speaker 1: time away from here? Yeah, I went back East and

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Speaker 1: I was living in home in New York City for

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Speaker 1: two weeks but still working, and then we took a

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Speaker 1: twice a week. Gives us something to do, you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we're learning as we go and occupies

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Speaker 1: our times some now and now we are back in lockdown. Um,

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Speaker 1: I am actually going back on vacation next week. So

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Speaker 1: it is a weird jumble time for us. But um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we gotta we gotta find whatever

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Speaker 1: it gives us peace during this time and just a

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Speaker 1: little bit of happiness, no doubt, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: So uh So this week, for this show, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with a couple of guys that I know well,

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Speaker 1: that you probably know well. Again, if you are deep

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Speaker 1: in the fantasy streets or even if you've listened to

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Speaker 1: this show, you have seen these names, you have heard

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Speaker 1: these voices as part of the show before. So I

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Speaker 1: felt like this was a great way to kick it off.

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Speaker 1: Bringing in from the athletic Jake Seeley, who was a friend,

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Speaker 1: not only a friend of the program, just a friend

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Speaker 1: from the program. He's just a friend as well. You

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Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter at all in kid uh

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Speaker 1: and our pal researcher extraordinaire and all around nice guy

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Speaker 1: Michael F. Florio. I wanted to differentiate that from the

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Speaker 1: Florio fellas. Appreciate you jumping in with with me today.

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Speaker 1: How how are things in your respective corners of the world.

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Speaker 1: I'm good and this is what I because that as

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Speaker 1: long as I've known Florio for basically most of his career.

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Speaker 1: Everybody always says genuine nice guy. So you just know

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Speaker 1: he's like the nicest guy in the industry. That's the

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Speaker 1: first thing anybody says about him. I try, people could

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Speaker 1: say worse, I guess, so being nice it is not

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Speaker 1: a bad thing. You have the opposite spectrum, Floria, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the one everybody hates in the Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and you're the super nice guy. You're the heel though.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, so you you embraced the hate. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are kind of the fantasy Twitter he'll. So, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all gonna be something, right, We all gotta fill

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Speaker 1: a role. So there it is. Um. So, I do

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Speaker 1: want to talk with you about you. With you guys,

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Speaker 1: I can speak English. I want to talk with you

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Speaker 1: guys about the a f C East. But before we

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Speaker 1: menu a little bit because Jake, you wrote something on

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Speaker 1: The Athletic that came out on Monday. Uh. First off,

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Speaker 1: you and I are proud members of the I Hate

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Speaker 1: PPR club. Um, and you wrote an article basically saying

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Speaker 1: that you know all these people who have gone to

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Speaker 1: these tight end premium leagues. Basically like stop that, And

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Speaker 1: tight end premium leagues? Yeah, the exact title was I'm

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Speaker 1: sick of tight end premium scoring. And here's why. Really,

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Speaker 1: the most simplest version of it is that it doesn't

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Speaker 1: all wishing and hoping to get tight ends back in

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Speaker 1: our lives, right, like basically, and you broke it down,

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Speaker 1: it's it's you have one or two choices. You go early,

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Speaker 1: I think you're saying, we're trying to we have to

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Speaker 1: way to make tight end more valuable right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I say slash wide receiver just so like the six

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Speaker 1: world and Caden Smith right right, that's fair. No, that's

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Speaker 1: absolutely fair. Now, I just I came across the article

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Speaker 1: They bring in what they bring an extra weapons, They

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Speaker 1: confident are we in Josh Allen? We know he can run,

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Speaker 1: an extremely dangerous weapon, especially in that like ten to

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Speaker 1: I think that that is where Diggs and his ability

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Speaker 1: But it's one of those scenarios where they have a

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Speaker 1: I just want to deal with the guy that's throwing

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Speaker 1: fantasy points. Yeah go ahead, Jack, Yeah, No, I was

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's basically Cam Newton, and the what we saw

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Speaker 1: always not accurate. Well let's get giant dudes to just

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Speaker 1: still fifty fifty balls. You're just throwing it to a

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Speaker 1: I love the digs approach. My problem with Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: with the legs in the rushing touchdown department, is he

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Speaker 1: gonna make enough up in the passing games. That's why

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you know, look going through this

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Speaker 1: scott Fish Bowl Draft in my division. Uh look, I

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Speaker 1: it and people like looked at me sideways, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know he was at that point. Seven quarterbacks were

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Speaker 1: I'm not in love with it, but I had to

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Speaker 1: And that's sort of the going rate. Um, Jake, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Steffon Diggs and you liked the approach that the

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Speaker 1: Bills are putting together there. Uh, you know, John Brown

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Speaker 1: had a good year last year. Is Steffon Diggs really

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Speaker 1: six rounds approximately of a DP better than John Brown.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're a little bit closer together. At

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Speaker 1: my mind, I'm in full agreement with you. I have

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is wide receiver three and I have John

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Speaker 1: what did people forget about Preston Williams? And I asked

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Speaker 1: this in regards to one Williams a d P, which

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Speaker 1: is double digit rounds, but also in regards to what

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Speaker 1: it means for DeVante Parker, because I don't the DeVante

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Speaker 1: Parker breakout doesn't happen the same way. I think if

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Speaker 1: Preston Williams stays healthy all year long, and it just

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Speaker 1: seems like people kind of forgot about that. So first,

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Speaker 1: as Jeremy Langford, that's what there is, uh, and so

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Speaker 1: second of all, I think it's funny it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have forgotten about Preston Williams, but the people

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Speaker 1: who remember seemed to think like he put up top

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Speaker 1: ten receiving numbers while he was out, Like, it's funny

440
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Speaker 1: that the people who remember think he's god at fantasy football,

441
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Speaker 1: and so I think it's you gotta look at both.

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Speaker 1: Like Preston Williams. I'll go back to something I said

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Speaker 1: when he came out of college that if it wasn't

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Speaker 1: for the off the field and not playing the entire

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Speaker 1: last year in college, I had my person like, my

446
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Speaker 1: personal grade is a third round grade. Like I thought

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Speaker 1: he was a day to pick. His talent would have

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Speaker 1: been there. He would have definitely been drafted. He would

449
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Speaker 1: have been one of the most talked about wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: But because of the all field stuff, everything you saw

451
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Speaker 1: what happened to him, that talent is still there, and

452
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Speaker 1: we saw that talent show itself last year. I think

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Speaker 1: people need to remember that and remember the talent that's

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Speaker 1: still behind him. There has been plenty of players that

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Speaker 1: have had off the field issues and never come back around.

456
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Speaker 1: But I do like him a lot, especially if we're

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Speaker 1: continuing to talk about a team like the Dolphins, whose

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Speaker 1: defense is starting to approve but still a problem with

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick at quarterback. I think he definitely needs to be

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Speaker 1: as a late round pick, and it's probably gonna get

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Speaker 1: to the point in mid August where he's a mid

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Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, I mean I think so too. And

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Speaker 1: I guess maybe I I send the fall into that

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Speaker 1: category of people who think who remember him better than

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Speaker 1: he actually was. Um, you know, I don't think he

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Speaker 1: was top t him, but I'm like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: he was better than he was and I go back

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Speaker 1: and look at him, like, uh, yeah, he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess because he was a rookie and

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Speaker 1: he didn't you know, we didn't really give him a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of expectations and he was playing in a

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Speaker 1: on a supposedly bad offense. Maybe it was maybe that

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Speaker 1: had something to do with it. I don't know. Um,

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Speaker 1: up to New England, obviously they went through a little

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Speaker 1: bit of change. I don't know if you heard, but

476
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Speaker 1: this guy named Brady left and went somewhere else. So, yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick with Michigan. You know, I don't know. Um,

478
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Speaker 1: so Cam Newton is there. That was obviously the big

479
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Speaker 1: story from a couple of weeks ago, and then this

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Speaker 1: this chatter began that Cam might not be the starter,

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Speaker 1: you know, like they still like Jared Stidham, they want

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Speaker 1: to give him a chance, and this is Floria, are

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Speaker 1: you buying this? Kim might not be the starter of business,

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Speaker 1: not even a little bit. Even when Stidham was like

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Speaker 1: the guy, I kept thinking like no, Like Bill Belichick

486
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Speaker 1: is not going to go into a year with Jared

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Speaker 1: Stidham and Brian Hoyer as his quarterbacks, knowing what's out there.

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Speaker 1: And then it just made sense. I think they waited until,

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Speaker 1: you know, the punishment for videotaping practices came out, because

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Speaker 1: it was the same day. It was like like ten

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Speaker 1: minutes later. Yeah, they were like all, yeah, we're signing

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. By the way, I think they've had that

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Speaker 1: planned and I think Cam is the starter. I think

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Speaker 1: Cam's ceiling is so much high, like what he brings

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Speaker 1: to that team, especially a team with that good of

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Speaker 1: a defense, Like it's just built for a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton to come in and not an unproven guy

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Speaker 1: like Jared'stidham, who I understand there's people out there who

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Speaker 1: love jared'st Didham, but he was a fourth room pick

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Speaker 1: and did put a very pedestrian numbers in college. Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton is a former NFL m VP who's been in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl recently. Like, come on, it's it's cams job.

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Speaker 1: Who question about I did a victory lap when this happened,

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Speaker 1: Marcus because I called this to a t It's like

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Speaker 1: he's still going to the Patriots because this is why,

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Speaker 1: from a real life perspective, this is the perfect situation

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. If Cam comes in and sucks, you

508
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Speaker 1: tank without looking like you tanked, like you still tried.

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Speaker 1: You brought in Cam Newton's it's like, oh well we

510
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Speaker 1: did our best. Oh well, now we go get the

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Speaker 1: number one pick, which you know again, like could you

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Speaker 1: imagine if that's somehow happened And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it will, but like Bill Belichick is able to get

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence next year, Like that's just not fair, that's

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Speaker 1: not right, it's not right. That would be my look

516
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Speaker 1: as a Bills fan, though it would be your luck

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Speaker 1: the first year I think of my life where they

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Speaker 1: have a chance of winning. The divisions actually gonna throw

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Speaker 1: each other through tables anyway, So who cares? I have

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Speaker 1: never once been thrown through a table, though, what if

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Speaker 1: I could? You know, you see those tweets about what

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Speaker 1: would you say to like, you know, fifteen year old

523
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Speaker 1: you or whatever, like I would say by the market

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Speaker 1: on plastic folding tables in the Buffalo area, That's what

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Speaker 1: it was a story. And when the Bills had to

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Speaker 1: play in Houston in the playoffs, like stores were sold

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Speaker 1: out of folding tables in Houston. I don't I don't understand,

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Speaker 1: but okay, you um, Jake, how much? How much is

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman hurt by not having Tom Brady this year?

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think he's very hurt at all. I

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Speaker 1: think this is possibly a break even situation. I think

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Speaker 1: it would have been a downgrade with Stidham. But I

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Speaker 1: go back to what we were talking about earlier in

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Speaker 1: the show when I was mentioned the fact that what

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Speaker 1: the Panthers did towards Laten's career, and especially with d J. Moore,

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton's completion percent has jumped off that charts last week,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't all that worse than what Tom Brady was.

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Speaker 1: And I think you look at Edelman, it's a compound

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Speaker 1: of Now, yeah, Cam Newton, who should be honing in

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Speaker 1: on him, but what's this competition on top of it?

541
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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty much the same issues we had last year.

542
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Speaker 1: Nikkila Harry ended up being a bust as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I still don't think his career is a bust yet,

544
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Speaker 1: Let's give him more than one year to call that.

545
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Speaker 1: But you know, a transition quarterback and Jacobe Myers Gunner

546
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Speaker 1: just go down the list of all these random mohamas

547
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Speaker 1: and knew who knows what he has left and he's

548
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Speaker 1: already practicing with Cam Newton, but he's just no tight ends.

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Speaker 1: There's just so much that I still think that if

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman plays a full season, which is that's the

551
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Speaker 1: only question we have with Julian Edelman, he should still

552
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Speaker 1: be in line for his eight, nine, possibly ten targets

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Speaker 1: a week. Yeah, I mean Julian Edelman. Let me look

554
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Speaker 1: as as a non PPR guy like Julian Edelman is

555
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Speaker 1: sort of the poster child for all that frustrates me

556
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Speaker 1: about it, Like a dude who for any one man

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can dude who gets like a hundred

558
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Speaker 1: catches and has like nine hundred yards, Like, what are

559
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Speaker 1: you doing, um which to kill Harry? So I'm gonna

560
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Speaker 1: throw out another who would you rather? To you guys,

561
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Speaker 1: who would you rather? If you're looking at Patriots and

562
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Speaker 1: kill Harry or Sony Michelle? The first easily? Like Sony Michelle?

563
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Speaker 1: What is the appeal of Sony Michelle? Like this guy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of his career touchdowns I think, legitimately

565
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Speaker 1: outside of three have come within the five yard line.

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Speaker 1: And now he is Cam Newton there who is going

567
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Speaker 1: to steal some of those? There's there's Harris, There's White,

568
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: there's Birkhead. He has no explosiveness. I'm sorry. The guy

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Speaker 1: that he was in Georgia is just gone now he is.

570
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Speaker 1: It's like Todd Gurley, Like he is the much less

571
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Speaker 1: successful version of Todd Gurley. He went out well before

572
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Speaker 1: he had any success in the NFL. I just I

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Speaker 1: want the Patriots are probably the team that I'm targeting

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Speaker 1: the least of their players on because I just I

575
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Speaker 1: don't see the upside in many of these guys. I

576
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Speaker 1: like Julia mls cost but the same thing I would

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Speaker 1: take to kill Harry ten times at the Tana And

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Speaker 1: this is one that we go back to again. There's

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Speaker 1: a reason he was drafted where he was drafted, and

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Speaker 1: the thought around him he could be a bus they like,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be the first wide receiver bust ever, especially

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Speaker 1: on the Patriots surprising way. But the fact is that

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Speaker 1: you I agree with Floor, I don't see the upside

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Speaker 1: of Michelle where a lot of people are forgetting at.

585
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Speaker 1: The concern after drafting Damien Harris last year was that

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Speaker 1: he was gonna push for Sony Michell's touches. But he

587
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: can actually be used in the passing game, umlike Michelle.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Harris returned from injury is even

589
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Speaker 1: overshadowed a little bit. To the point of Sony Michelle,

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Speaker 1: what you said for his knee might be as bad

591
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Speaker 1: as time Gurley as already right, you know, Todd Gurley

592
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Speaker 1: at least catches passes like he has the ability to

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Speaker 1: catch the ball to like you know, I know people

594
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Speaker 1: worried about Gurley, but uh, there's way more upside there

595
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Speaker 1: than there is. Um. All right, the meetropolitans um. So

596
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to So you know, remember

597
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: when you're like a teenager and you learn about that

598
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: fortune cookie game where you add the words in bed

599
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: to every fortune and then like you read them and

600
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Speaker 1: you giggle because you're stupid. You're a kid. I feel

601
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Speaker 1: like we talk about the Jets, everything we say about

602
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: the Jets fantasy wise is always, uh, you know, finished

603
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Speaker 1: by but Adam Gaze. So let's just get the but

604
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Speaker 1: Adam Gaze part out of the way and just say,

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Speaker 1: you know, how much better would you guys feel about

606
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Speaker 1: the Jets offense with literally any other head you know,

607
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: the other being offensive genius, right, Like I'm not asking

608
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: for Andy Reid or Sean McVeigh or Kyle Shannon to

609
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: come scheming thing, but literally anybody but Adam Gaze, would

610
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: you guys feel better about the pieces in this Jets offense?

611
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: I was legitimately going through the coaching staff of the NFL.

612
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I really don't know if I could

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Speaker 1: pick a work. The only thing I could go back

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Speaker 1: there is like bringing back Kevin Kevin gilb Ride from

615
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Speaker 1: the Giants from years ban. That might be the only

616
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: thing that's worse because then you just know it's run

617
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: past and then what draw on third down? When it

618
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Speaker 1: started seven. Yeah, unless Gates gets to bring the ghosts

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Speaker 1: of Paint Manning back with him, I want no part

620
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Speaker 1: of him. Uh alright, So then, knowing okay, that we've

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Speaker 1: gotten that part out of the way, Florial, how early

622
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Speaker 1: what's the earliest she would reach for love Bell? I

623
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: am really only I'm off of Live Bell. Like last year,

624
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: Live Bill did not finish is a top five running

625
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: back at all. Last year he did not have a

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Speaker 1: run of twenty yards, despite you know, getting all of

627
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: the jets running back touches there. I think there's more

628
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: competition for his work now this year than last year.

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Speaker 1: Last year behind him was Time Montgomery. This year now

630
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Speaker 1: they brought in Frank Gore. And I know Gore is ancient,

631
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: but Gore's still everywhere he goes gets well over a

632
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: hundred carries. And two years ago Adam Gates used Frank

633
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Speaker 1: Gore over Kenyan Drake. So the fact that Frank Gore

634
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: maybe a larger part of this offense than I think

635
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: we're realizing, I'm not gonna overlook that. Then there's uh

636
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Speaker 1: the La Michael Perrin who they drafted, who Pran, who

637
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: I think could also eat into Levy on bells some

638
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: carries a little bit more than Montgomery did. And plus

639
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell is twenty eight years old now, which

640
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: is the age where running back efficiency starts to decline.

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Last year he did not really show any explosiveness, and

642
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: he's going to once again be playing for Adam Gates

643
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: and a head coach who doesn't really want him and

644
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: makes that very publicly known. Uh So, I just to me,

645
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell is more of a safe, low end

646
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: RB two that you're gonna take because of that volume

647
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have. But the days of the upside

648
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: and the days of the seeing Levy on Belly RB one,

649
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: which some people I think still think Bill has in him,

650
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't. So I'm just really out on Levy on Bill.

651
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Haven't you seen he's taking this offseason seriously in the

652
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: best shape of his life? For you? Have I haven't

653
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: seen that? No? Yeah? That Look this is I will

654
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: say this. I actually I'm on the opposite side for you.

655
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking but only because of the cost you you

656
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: You're not wrong in anything you said on the flip side.

657
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: The good news is that he was an RB two

658
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: almost every single week, Like the ceiling was never there,

659
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: but he never truly let you down. I think his

660
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: worst score was like seven or eight points, so there

661
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: was like a down week or two, but he was

662
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: remarkably consistent despite how bad the Jets were. Another team

663
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: that's try to adjust the offensive line. I don't disagree

664
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: with you. The biggest issue I have is that I

665
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: don't think Frank Gore's an issue. I don't think p

666
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: Rhan is an issue. I think Gae is the issue,

667
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: and that if if it was any other head coach,

668
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: as you said at the top, Marcus, is there was

669
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: any other head coach, I would actually be considering Levy

670
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: on Bell with the upside to be an RB one again.

671
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: But I just don't know if that he just doesn't

672
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: hate the guy because he wasn't as sold on the contract,

673
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and then p Ryan gets involved in Gore gets involved.

674
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: But I'm okay with Bell because at cost he's going

675
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: about what fourth round this year, and that to me,

676
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: how many guys are in line for his touches as

677
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: long as he gets the usage from last year. Yeah,

678
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing with about one he

679
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: had maybe the quietest three hundred touches in the history

680
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: of ever. Uh year, Like I wouldn't looked at like

681
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: he actually touched about three hundred times leash years. That

682
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: was amazing. I couldn't believe that. Um. And again, if

683
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I have him as my RB two, I feel okay

684
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: about it, you know, but I don't want and I've

685
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: heard the rumor that if things go bad for the

686
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Jets this year, which is certainly possible, that they may

687
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: look to trade him. And so now I just I'm

688
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: sort of rooting for that to happen because I just

689
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: want him back in our lives. I think the talent

690
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: is there, that he just needs the opportunity, and he's

691
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: just not gonna get it. Uh in New York. Um

692
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: So Jake, Now, I'm I'm I may be asking this

693
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: question with my heart. Uh. But Sam Donald, Um, now, look,

694
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be crazy about it. We're talking like

695
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: super flex leagues, two QB leagues, that sort of thing.

696
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: How do we feel about him this year? The same

697
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I've always feel. I'm just I'm not a Donald guy.

698
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: You're asking the wrong guy here. It's just like Sam Donald,

699
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure when he came out of college, I

700
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: said he has Andy Dalton as a ceiling, which in

701
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: fantasy wouldn't be that bad. Andy Dalton Finish is accuting

702
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: one multiple Yeah, but that's a ceiling. And that's my

703
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: problem with Sam Donald. I just I think that part

704
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: of it is the team construction and that's not his fault.

705
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, he is where he is under the

706
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: coach that we're talking about. But I just think Sam

707
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Donald's own limitations and some of his decision making is

708
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: still stuff that we saw in college. When we were

709
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: complaining in college that he hadn't made the progression and

710
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: starting to read defense is better. It didn't take a

711
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: step forward into the NFL, and it's still there. I'm

712
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: not even making the jokes about seeing ghosts. I'm just

713
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: talking about his play style. He just hasn't made the reads,

714
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's holding him back. I'll tell you this.

715
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm one as a as an SC fan and a lum.

716
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: I go back to I go back to that Rose

717
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Bowl game when they played Penn State, and that was

718
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: honestly the highs and lows of Sam Donald because in

719
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: the first half, he looked miserable, he looked awful. Uh

720
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, say Kwan Barkley was kind of announcing himself

721
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: to the world. Chris Godwin was making plays, and then

722
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: second half, fourth quarter, especially the Trojans trailing, Donald turns

723
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: it on. He becomes all world and you're like, now

724
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I understand why this guy potentially is a number one

725
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: overall pick uh. It's just I know, Floria just seems

726
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: like the range maybe is that what is just the

727
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: range just too great with with Donald right now? I

728
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: think that, and I think also for fantasy it's the

729
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: fact that he doesn't add a whole bunch with his legs,

730
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: so that there are a lot of quarterbacks to that

731
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: go in that range, like as low as QB two's

732
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: that I just like more because of what they can

733
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: do with their legs. Donald, though I did get in

734
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: Scott fish Bull as my QB three. He's one of

735
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: these weird players that like, I agree with you guys,

736
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: like I'm not fully sold on him. But there are

737
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: people out there who believe that Sam Donald still is

738
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: like the next breakout quarterback, and that they there's so

739
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: many Sam Donald truthers that his ADP is always a

740
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: little bit higher because there's always people who still believe

741
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have one of those big breakout years. Well,

742
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: and I know that you know Minish Matza, who I

743
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: know listens to the pod on occasion, um, you know,

744
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: and obviously is the beat writer covers the Jets or whatever.

745
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: He loves Sam Donald And like I, I want to

746
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: have that same level of faith, that same level of belief,

747
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: and I just feel like the situation maybe is not

748
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: is not going to allow for it. Um, I'll take

749
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: out of this had if it happens, just you're not

750
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna play this year. It looks like is Notre Dame

751
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: we have like three games this year? Yeah, I don't know.

752
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I will say that as an SC fan. The the

753
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: conference only schedule, uh sort of says this the embarrassment

754
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: of getting stomped out by Alabama to start the year.

755
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: So if there's a silver lining, that's that's what that is. Um,

756
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: let's look at some superlesons from the a f C East.

757
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through and kind of get you some

758
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: categories and want to get names from both of you guys.

759
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: So first off, who will be the best a f

760
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: C East Fantasy quarterback this year? That's an easy one

761
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: for me. I think it's Josh Allen. It is like,

762
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: as much as I just complained about his ADP before.

763
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: It's still It's still Josh Allen And I'm a big

764
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: fan of Cam Newton. Cam is is the the one

765
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: that will give him camp. I don't think the other

766
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: guys will. Okay, um tied end. I mean obviously, I

767
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: know everybody sort of loves Mike Sicky. I love Mike

768
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: SICKI is kind of a late round sleeper there is

769
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Is he the best fantasy tight end into in the

770
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: division or is there somebody that I'm forgetting right now?

771
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Chris Herndon. Everybody forgot about Chris Herndon was top ten

772
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: ADP last year because they're all matchup problem. Everybody just

773
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: doesn't want nothing or anything to do with him this year,

774
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: if healthy, you can see a world where he's the

775
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: second best receiver on the Jets. I see one. I

776
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: mean yeah, but I feel like that says more about

777
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: the Jets receivers necessarily going to do about Chris Herndon,

778
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Sharp Peman, Roshard Pereman. They got Denzel Mims and then

779
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: another year of like year of Jamison crowders there like

780
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: just run go routes, they don't break open. So Chris Herndon,

781
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: Jamison crowd are open underneath for Sam Darnald's or pass man. Okay,

782
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: biggest sleepers in the a f C East. If you

783
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: guys have any sleepers in this division, I would say

784
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: to kill Harry. I think because person Williams does go

785
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: a few rounds earlier than him. Harry, like Jake said,

786
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: first round pick last year, I think him being that

787
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: outside downfield receiver that the Patriots lacked last year. I

788
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: mean the last year they just had slot receivers running

789
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: ten yard rounds. But now like he could be that

790
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: field church for them. I think he is just the

791
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: prototypical receiver that can play well with the Cam Newton. Yeah,

792
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: I would think do you mentioned two of them already, Marcus.

793
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: I would go with Zack Moss and Preston Williams. I

794
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: think both of what we talked about from earlier at

795
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: what their cost is right now, throwing Harry there too.

796
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: But I will say, if not Harry and Julian Alman

797
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: at this point of his career, I know he's gonna

798
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: be thirty one by the time the season starts, which

799
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: isn't the end of the world. But Mohammed Sanu, I

800
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that picture when he was

801
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: working out with Cam Newton. But I didn't realize Mohamedson

802
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: it was that freaking ramp, right me? Neither? Right, Yeah,

803
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: he's hiding that well like a skinny guy, like skinny

804
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: slot receiver and he's out here just jacked. Okay. So

805
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: then on the flip side, who are the guys in

806
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: the a f C East? You feel like we're being

807
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: the most overdrafted right now? Oh, you know what, it's

808
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: funny I mean, but I mean like it might not

809
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: be anybody because it's like, I feel like the division

810
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: as a whole is sort of depressed fantasy wise. It

811
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: really is. I think that if you go back to

812
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen again, like it's it's not that he's QB seven,

813
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: it's that where QB seven's coming off the board. And

814
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem with it. So I think

815
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: everybody else is pretty reasonable. You know what, I don't

816
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: even mention I'll throw one more Sleepers Javid go back

817
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: to the Jets, Jameson Crowder like he's basically Terry McLaurin

818
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: for the Jets. I guess I feel like I feel

819
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: we've Jason Crowder so many years has he's a burner.

820
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Jameson Crowder doesn't have that. Oh look, I am one

821
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: of the biggest Terry mclauren fans I met. From a

822
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: volume standpoint, Jamison Crowder again, I think the biggest issue

823
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: with James and Crowders. We've been spoiled or not spoiled

824
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Ruins so many times of not having a full season.

825
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Jameis Crowder again, sixteen games. I think James Jodian Ellman

826
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: for the chats. Is that better? That that? That is better?

827
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: But I think that his volume isn't as safe as

828
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: we all want to make it out to be. Like

829
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: last year, who was really taking those targets away? Like

830
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: this year. There's Herndon, there's Perriman, there's Mimes, there's levy

831
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: on Bell in the backfield. I think it's all fair.

832
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: That's all fair. Um, okay, So that let's finish out

833
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: as we get close to wrapping up this thing with

834
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: some either oors. Right, So let's start with wats. We've

835
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: mentioned these names a couple of times already. If you

836
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: if you know you have to pick one at whatever.

837
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: They're current a D people. I shouldn't say they're current

838
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: ADP because this is not gonna be fair, but uh

839
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: just think's gonna have the better year. How about that,

840
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Cam Newton, where are you going? And I

841
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: don't need I don't need a long explanation, just a

842
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: name and maybe a couple of words on why you think,

843
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, why you think the way you think? Can

844
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: we can we just include costs for this one? Just

845
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: just only this sure, Cam Newton, because he's still almost

846
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: basically right now at ADP Candyton. Okay, Uh, Devonte Parker

847
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: or John Brown, I'm going first because I'm taking a

848
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: few extra words here. I'm sorry, Marcus. Devonte Parker is

849
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: so ridiculously undervalued it's it's insane. Like he was only

850
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver too from week four on. And yes, Preston

851
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: Williams is back. You want to discount him for that,

852
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Speaker 1: You want to discount for the running bait discount as

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Speaker 1: much as you want. That still makes him at least

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver to Why is he down at wide

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Speaker 1: receiver twenty eight is beyond me? Yeah, this is an

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Speaker 1: easy one for me to Devonte Parker. And I think

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Speaker 1: Preston Williams is more of a concern from Mike Kasecki

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Speaker 1: than I do DeVante Parker all right, outside the player realm.

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Speaker 1: The Jets logo or the Dolphins logo? Which one you got?

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins easily? Jets. I like the cleanness of it,

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Speaker 1: that that the dolphin always looks goofy and stupid to me.

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Speaker 1: The teal, I love the teal coloring in it. My

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Speaker 1: my mom feels the same way. She's like, teal, it

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Speaker 1: looks great. She she also never liked the Raiders jersey.

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Speaker 1: She's like, it's black and gray, and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: it's silver. Is a lot, yes, thank you, Blash like,

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Speaker 1: I do think it's a little bit overrated. Oh wow, alright,

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Speaker 1: uh alright, alright, p you're mentioning um. Since you guys

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Speaker 1: are both fans of New York Metropolitans, Jacob deGrom or

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Speaker 1: Noah synder Garden, this is an easy one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is easily Jacob deGrom, No, it's not. You want

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Speaker 1: to know why, because synder guard epitomizes what it's like

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Speaker 1: to be a Mets fan, all this hope for what

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Speaker 1: could be. It's just under disappointment year after year after year.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's Syndergarden. That is true. That is a

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Speaker 1: good point, but I'll take Jacob Degram any day. Um.

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Speaker 1: Also that as Mets fans, do you celebrate like do

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Speaker 1: you celebrate Bobby Bonia Day? Is it sort of like

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day where people have like singles, Independence Day or

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Speaker 1: whatever they call it, Like I celebrate it right now?

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Speaker 1: Because you say Mets fan FLOORA knows this. I'm a

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Speaker 1: disjointed Mets fan. I've banned them six no, five years

883
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: or five years ago until the Wilpons are officially gone.

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Speaker 1: I am yeah, it could be this year. I have

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Speaker 1: distanced myself in the Mets until that happened. So I

886
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Speaker 1: actually enjoy laughing at but Neli a day every single year.

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Speaker 1: I think Bobby Bulonia Day is very overrated because July

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Speaker 1: first is the firming day for everyone. Like Bona gets

889
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: all the hype. But like in a couple of years,

890
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Speaker 1: the Nationals are going to be paying like Strasburg and

891
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: Shre like ten million every July one, and that's still

892
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: gonna end before it's the greatest contract ever signed. Also,

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Speaker 1: those guys are still playing, you know, actually playing. By

894
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Speaker 1: the way, can't we get Bobby Benia's agent to fix America?

895
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: Like that's the genius behind all of this. Man, tell

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Speaker 1: me about it, all right? Last one pulp or no pulp,

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Speaker 1: no paulp don't give me stuff to chew in my drink.

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Speaker 1: I don't drink orange juice, but I will still go

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Speaker 1: no pulpe, all right? Which is the reasonable? Uh? You

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Speaker 1: know that is the reasonable? Like I don't want stuff

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Speaker 1: to don't give me stuff to eat when I'm drinking stuff.

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Speaker 1: I wanted an orange. I just have an orange like

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Speaker 1: that's you know, That's that's all I want. Um, hey, fellas,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. I jumping in um jake for the folks

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Speaker 1: who don't know you. But I feel like if you

906
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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, people know you. But anyway, let

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Speaker 1: folks know where they can find your stuff. Yeah, at

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Speaker 1: all in kids the easiest because I tweet everything out.

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Speaker 1: But over at the Athletic and if you're not part

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Speaker 1: of it so far, it's still like they still had

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Speaker 1: the fifth percent off offer if you scrolled aot them

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Speaker 1: in the article. It's going away soon. I don't know when,

913
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Speaker 1: but it's going away soon. But yeah, at the Athletic

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Speaker 1: and at only give us the easiest way to find everything,

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Speaker 1: all right, And Floria working folks find you. You can

916
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Speaker 1: find me at Michael F. Florio because I'm not the

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Speaker 1: other Mike Florio and my work. Soon I'll be back

918
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Speaker 1: here with you, Marcus and to get everything at NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah, I should

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Speaker 1: be excited looking forward to that. Uh. Fellows always appreciate it. Uh,

921
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Speaker 1: you know we'll do this again at some point. Uh.

922
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Speaker 1: I know, Jake, you and I rechat regularly. I would

923
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Speaker 1: ask you, what is there something on Netflix or anything

924
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: I should be watching? An I just started Dark? Have

925
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: you watched that? You have got watched cartoon if you

926
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Speaker 1: if you're into like The Stranger Things and that Fox show.

927
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Speaker 1: I forget. I can't remember lit like now there it was.

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Speaker 1: It was one with like time travel and stuff like that. Uh,

929
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Speaker 1: Fringe maybe Fringe like that kind of stuff that you

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Speaker 1: go go watch Dark. It's in German though, so heads up,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. I will say I will give

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Speaker 1: you a right quick if if you like, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of weird sci fix sort of things homecoming on

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. Yeah, well, and it's you know, it's short,

935
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Speaker 1: like there's like I think each season is like seven

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Speaker 1: or eight episodes are all half an hour. You could

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Speaker 1: literally blow through two seasons in like a day if

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Speaker 1: you want. So. Did you ever watch Final Space? I

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Speaker 1: haven't watched the second season of Final Space. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know they'll watch it. I know. My bad, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'll do that. I'll do that when i'm up, like

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm up, lates, I'll go find Final Space

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Speaker 1: and I'll watch a second season. All right, there it is?

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Speaker 1: That is it. We are done. We appreciate you listening

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Speaker 1: and downloading and watching our clips as well. You know

946
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Speaker 1: the drill. Tell two friends to tell two friends rate

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Speaker 1: review and remember always borrow money from a pessimist. What't

948
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Speaker 1: expect it back. Take care of yourselves, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Want I Want Coco, Coco