Speaker 1: Hi, you guys. It's me Cynthia Bailey. Here. I'm here
Speaker 1: with my daughter Noel for the first episode of Mommy
Speaker 1: and Me. And we're so excited. We are. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a toast. We can drink together now, which
Speaker 1: is quick. She's four, which she has a love hate
Speaker 1: relationship with I really did. We'll get into that, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna cheers to my first seeding strength my peach Bellini.
Speaker 1: That's what I'll be happy. What are you drinking? I'm
Speaker 1: having some moscato. Excuse me, my cheers, cheers us and
Speaker 1: cheers to this first episode. Should I be worried about
Speaker 1: some of the stuff you're gonna say? Always always runaway
Speaker 1: train over here. She doesn't say a lot, but when
Speaker 1: she does, it's like a lot. So let's just jump
Speaker 1: right into it. Wow, Okay, this is the first time
Speaker 1: we've really done anything like this. Yeah, so I'm a
Speaker 1: little mortified but excited. All right, explain your relationship as
Speaker 1: mother and daughter. Our relationship you want to go first? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go first.
Speaker 2: So I would say our relationship is very complex, but
Speaker 2: I feel like it's functional. I feel like the way
Speaker 2: that we operate as mom and daughter probably wouldn't work
Speaker 2: for a lot of other people, but for us, I'll
Speaker 2: say that, and I feel like we're very, very close,
Speaker 2: which is really good in a lot of ways. But
Speaker 2: it does cause us to clash in.
Speaker 1: A lot of ways.
Speaker 2: But there are ways that I wouldn't regret because I
Speaker 2: just want to be close to I think it's like
Speaker 2: with anybody, like a mother daughter relationship is like a
Speaker 2: relationship with so many different aspects, like with a friend,
Speaker 2: with another family member and relationships. You know, if you
Speaker 2: spend so much time with anybody, even if you love them,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you guys can bump pedsulm.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's very true. And then for me, I would
Speaker 1: say our relationship is like I'm your mom, but we're friends.
Speaker 1: And I know everyone's like, don't be friends with your kids,
Speaker 1: Like you can't be friends with your children. That is
Speaker 1: some bullshit, okay, because I have to be your friend
Speaker 1: because if I'm not your friend, I you know, there's
Speaker 1: no real communication. I don't know what's going on. You
Speaker 1: don't trust me to tell me and keep me in
Speaker 1: the loop of all the things that you're doing. And
Speaker 1: I want to know everything. I want to know everything
Speaker 1: that you have going on, you know, and.
Speaker 2: She's also like a helicopter mom, so I feel like
Speaker 2: she couldn't even have the amount of like information control
Speaker 2: that she wants to have if she wasn't also my friend.
Speaker 1: So wait, it's true. I'm a helicopter Yes, you like,
Speaker 1: basically your face should be in the dictionary by helicopter
Speaker 1: mom because okay, well we're gonna move on to yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll like anyway. I believe in being friends with your children,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people don't, but for
Speaker 1: us it works. I'm not, you know, only one child,
Speaker 1: so I can only tell you what works for us.
Speaker 1: And I mean I don't even like her to be
Speaker 1: mad at me, Like, not only do I want to
Speaker 1: be friends, I want to make sure that we never
Speaker 1: really have you know, we're not mad at each other
Speaker 1: for too long, and we'll get into that stuff exactly,
Speaker 1: all right, Noel, do you like being an only child? Yes?
Speaker 1: So I get this question so much. I love being
Speaker 1: an only child. I really wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 2: But also, I think you need to say that when
Speaker 2: you don't have any siblings or you don't have an
Speaker 2: experience of anything else.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I like the extra attention, but sometimes it could be
Speaker 2: bad because I am her only child, so like she
Speaker 2: can extra focus on all. Okay, so I could see
Speaker 2: how maybe it would have taken some of that pressure off.
Speaker 1: But I could say I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: No, I think you definitely enjoy it has more pros
Speaker 2: and than cons. For me, I'd say, right, it works
Speaker 2: for her because I used to feel bad, especially as
Speaker 2: I get older. I just celebrated my fifty seventh birthday,
Speaker 2: and I often think about, like, you know, when I
Speaker 2: go to heaven, I know, but you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be it forever. But when I do go on,
Speaker 2: like sometimes I wish you had a sister, someone else
Speaker 2: that you know, someone else you could lean on to
Speaker 2: protect each other, you know what I mean, like someone else.
Speaker 1: And your dad is like older too, so you know
Speaker 1: at some point, you know, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: more of it, but okay, at that point, like I
Speaker 1: always felt a little bad about not no, not having
Speaker 1: a brother or sister, someone else in her life that
Speaker 1: she could depend on. But she's made it pretty clear
Speaker 1: that she's like, no, I'm good, I can figure it out, okay, Like,
Speaker 1: and did I always want one kid. You know what,
Speaker 1: I really am a want and done kind of girl
Speaker 1: when it comes to like being a mom, Like and
Speaker 1: I wore her ouse anymore to a lot. It was
Speaker 1: really almost like having triplets like you are. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of layers that you have. So yeah, I'm good
Speaker 1: with one. I can't imagine love two or three of you. No,
Speaker 1: all right, So what is your favorite thing about each other?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite thing about me? Take your time.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's so many things, so it's just
Speaker 1: more so just picking one.
Speaker 2: I would say, I love how authentic you are, Like
Speaker 2: you're just very much so yourself. Like it's like, this
Speaker 2: is who I am, this is what works for me,
Speaker 2: this is what doesn't work for me. And you're not
Speaker 2: afraid to make mistakes and just try to do something
Speaker 2: even if it fails.
Speaker 1: And that's something I'm not afraid to look crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, and that's honestly something I feel is really
Speaker 2: admirable because I feel like some people, even including myself,
Speaker 2: sometimes I will be afraid to do something because I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't want to like fail publicly or
Speaker 2: you know, just even put myself out there in a
Speaker 2: way that oh if it if it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: It would be bad. But like with you, you're just like
Speaker 1: I'm just doing it.
Speaker 2: Whether it's like a business opportunity or relationship anything, she
Speaker 2: just kind of it just goes after it, and you know,
Speaker 2: if it fails, she just looks as it like you
Speaker 2: look said as a lesson and just like moves forward.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That's sorry, that's true. Okay, what
Speaker 1: is my favorite thing about you? I think my favorite
Speaker 1: thing about you is like you're very like when you
Speaker 1: want something, you're gonna get it. Like when Noah focuses
Speaker 1: on doing something or something that she wants, like I
Speaker 1: just don't even fight her on it because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: If she's going to get it, that's going to be
Speaker 1: her obsession and her focus and she's not gonna stop
Speaker 1: until it happens. So I learned a long time ago,
Speaker 1: like Okay, if this is what she wants, then I
Speaker 1: mean as well, just like what can I do to
Speaker 1: help you get it? Because I know you're gonna let
Speaker 1: it get Also like the scorpio and it is it
Speaker 1: is a scorpio. These scorpio people out here, when I
Speaker 1: say you do not they're going to get what they want.
Speaker 1: You don't want to piss them off because I could
Speaker 1: takes years. They're going to pay you back. They're going
Speaker 1: to get their lick back, no matter what, even if
Speaker 1: there even if you're their mother, They're going to get
Speaker 1: their linked back. Sometimes I'm like, we've moved past that,
Speaker 1: and then it just comes back up and bites me
Speaker 1: in the butt just when I forgot all about it.
Speaker 1: I might tell you and joke, but I'll never tell you.
Speaker 1: She is not wrong. She's not wrong, And I honestly
Speaker 1: think that I'm like one of the better, more evolved
Speaker 1: scorpios out here. So that's just your lick back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well the thing is coming. But even if the lick
Speaker 1: back is just me upgrading and just doing better in life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, No, it's true. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what is your biggest dick about each other? This
Speaker 1: one is super easy for me, Okay, Okay, So I
Speaker 1: would say it's actually two things. So one of my
Speaker 1: eggs about you is she gets like very hostile about
Speaker 1: like food, like if I have some food, and it's
Speaker 1: just the pie story. Yeah, this is also very fresh
Speaker 1: and it was a real tread. Yeah, we really fell out.
Speaker 2: Like it was like a really bad fallout actually about
Speaker 2: a blueberry pie from Airwan. I went to the grocery store.
Speaker 2: I asked her, Hey, do you want anything from Airwan?
Speaker 2: I literally actually told her. I said, hey, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about getting this slice. It's a slice of poe, a
Speaker 2: slice of pie. And she's like, no, no, like I
Speaker 2: don't want anything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I'm trying to be good and be
Speaker 1: strong because I still need to lose probably a good
Speaker 1: like fifteen pounds. But anyway, so of course I turned
Speaker 1: down the pie. But anyway, keep on. So she said no.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: I came home and then a couple hours he she's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm craving something sweet. So I offer,
Speaker 2: being the nice person that I thought I was being,
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, you can have like half
Speaker 2: of my slice of pie.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, she she I like, like blueberry pie. I
Speaker 1: eated it up for her. I plated it and I
Speaker 1: served her with some ice cream. You did, I did?
Speaker 1: That was fair? So I brought upstairs. She had the pot.
Speaker 1: She said, oh my god, this is so good. I
Speaker 1: was like, I know, which is why I bought it.
Speaker 1: I've been sleeping on blueberry pie for years apparently, like
Speaker 1: I'm more of like a sweet potato pie or the
Speaker 1: cam pie, like any other pie. I never think about
Speaker 1: blueberry pie.
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, I am I have a major
Speaker 2: sweet tooth, and you know as a girl, like I'm
Speaker 2: around that time where like I'm.
Speaker 1: Crazy sweet stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, like I was very much so looking forward to
Speaker 2: eating my second slice, and I you know when you
Speaker 2: like plan out something like you're like, I'm gonna eat
Speaker 2: this at this time, and I was planning.
Speaker 1: It out, okay, So what happened? So basically she.
Speaker 2: Was like can I have the other slice of pie?
Speaker 2: And I was like no, no, and she was like wow,
Speaker 2: like and you can you can explain all right.
Speaker 1: Well from there, I just didn't think it was that
Speaker 1: big of a deal, Like she just kept waiting so
Speaker 1: long to eat the pie. I ate it like right away,
Speaker 1: and then I felt like if she, I mean, she
Speaker 1: could always go get another slice. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like I don't really ask that much, Like I literally
Speaker 1: asked you for nothing, but for some reason, you asked
Speaker 1: me for fifty things a day. You probably asked me
Speaker 1: for thirty things today. I did not today again, I
Speaker 1: literally asked you for nothing. She like, I never asked
Speaker 1: for anything, but I do not. But then I got it.
Speaker 1: This pie was so good, so I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I want, I want it, just like can you just
Speaker 1: give me this one thing? And she was like no,
Speaker 1: And then I just was like this is I just
Speaker 1: think you're just a mean spirited person.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, because my whole thing is she was crazy
Speaker 2: and as if I was just purposely just like stripping
Speaker 2: something away from her that I know she's so that's
Speaker 2: really wanted, when in reality, I went to the grocery store.
Speaker 2: I asked her if she wanted me to get her
Speaker 2: something and she said no, and then I offer her
Speaker 2: half of it and I did want the other half.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I know this sounds like simple and like kind
Speaker 1: of crazy, but when I tell you, we really had
Speaker 1: a moment and I apologize, which I think is very
Speaker 1: important and a mom daughter or just a mom dynamic
Speaker 1: with their kids. I think as parents sometimes we feel
Speaker 1: like and this is very old school because I'm old
Speaker 1: school because I'm old basically, so I was raised like this,
Speaker 1: like you just can stand in what you stand in
Speaker 1: as a pair. You don't have to explain nothing. You
Speaker 1: don't have to give excuses or reasons. You like, I
Speaker 1: just said it is what it is. If you don't
Speaker 1: like it, So what I'm your mom? Well those days
Speaker 1: are gone because you know, are kids of this generation.
Speaker 1: They want more dialogue and more communication and more answers
Speaker 1: to the things that we say and just like mutual respect.
Speaker 1: I did accept accountability and I did apologize and we
Speaker 1: were able to move on. Yeah, all right, so oh
Speaker 1: that was your biggest egg. Okay, that was alone. That
Speaker 1: was a long one.
Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't say my second one. So she gets
Speaker 2: upset when I like get her, like I.
Speaker 1: Can butt my knee on something. She'd be like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: what did you do that.
Speaker 2: I'm like it was an accident, Like if I like,
Speaker 2: if something happens in my car gets like a flat tie,
Speaker 2: if anything happens that is really outside of my control.
Speaker 2: She gets upset at me, and I'm just like, I'm
Speaker 2: already just already inconvenient for me, and then you're upset
Speaker 2: at me.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, because I don't want to get hurt,
Speaker 3: Like I don't I hate like even when you were
Speaker 3: a child like if you I don't think you ever
Speaker 3: fell down for like, so you were like I don't
Speaker 3: know ten or something, because even if I thought.
Speaker 1: You were gonna fall, I would like literally dive underneath
Speaker 1: you and break the fall somehow and be like you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're it. And that does not serve me that
Speaker 1: well as you've gotten older, because I can't protect you
Speaker 1: from everything. If you have a flat tire, you just
Speaker 1: called it is like you she like somehow figures out
Speaker 1: how it's my fault, like where were you? Like what
Speaker 1: were you doing? Well, my biggest with you is we
Speaker 1: have a Oh god, I think, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, I have a tracker. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: not what I think. What did you think I was?
Speaker 1: I thought you're going to talk about the heat of blanket,
Speaker 1: So the heat a blanket. Don't even get me started.
Speaker 1: That's gonna come back up. So I have a tracker
Speaker 1: on the wall, not because I want to know where
Speaker 1: she is and what she's doing her business. That's not why.
Speaker 1: It's really not why. It's really not why. I have
Speaker 1: a track and she has a tracker on me, like
Speaker 1: I'm tracking her, she's tracking me. Everybody's tracking each other. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody got a truck.
Speaker 2: It's only because it's both ways. There's no way that
Speaker 2: you could have my location without me.
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, I don't care about you knowing where I am.
Speaker 1: I actually would love you to know where I am.
Speaker 1: So because I'm never anywhere that I wouldn't want you
Speaker 1: to know where I'm at, which is kind of set.
Speaker 1: But actually that have that boarding of life that there
Speaker 1: is nothing that I'm trying to actually hide forgive so
Speaker 1: but anyway, but the problem with the tracker is I
Speaker 1: have it, but sometimes she doesn't share her like it
Speaker 1: goes off. You don't have it connected, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because for me it's only about like my piece, and
Speaker 1: the tracker gives me peace. I don't care where you're going,
Speaker 1: where you're doing, like I don't care you twenty four
Speaker 1: and like you're grown. You can do whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. I just want to, as a mom, make
Speaker 1: sure you made it there safely and you made it
Speaker 1: back home safely. And until I see your dress pop
Speaker 1: up saying that your face on that tracker is at home,
Speaker 1: I can't go to sleep until that happens. So it's
Speaker 1: for my peace, I'm not trying to be nosy. I'm
Speaker 1: really not. Okay, keep in mind, this is the same person.
Speaker 1: So on the tracker, she can also see how fast
Speaker 1: I'm driving. She can also see my battery percentage. And
Speaker 1: she used to call me and like go off and
Speaker 1: be like, why is your phone on fifteen or or
Speaker 1: eight or whatever? Not knowing the context. You couldnot be
Speaker 1: ans with your phone three percent, because that's what the
Speaker 1: tracker won't even work if your phone doesn't understand. But
Speaker 1: she has to know the context.
Speaker 2: So it's like I could have i could be out
Speaker 2: and I could have a charger in my purse, and
Speaker 2: I know, once I get to a certain percent, I'm
Speaker 2: going to plug it in. But like she'll just go
Speaker 2: and call me full scheme, not even knowing the context.
Speaker 1: I just want to charge your phone. It's like stress,
Speaker 1: but I never should get under.
Speaker 2: But you should not ever know what my battery percentage is.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I feel like that's like too much,
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let you have that one. I'll let you
Speaker 1: have that one again. My goal is just to make
Speaker 1: sure you are safe. So if you want to drive
Speaker 1: around these streets with three percent battery on your phone,
Speaker 1: and then she'll call me as well because she can
Speaker 1: see how fast and driving it should without contact. Slow down?
Speaker 1: Why are you driving? I haven't done that in a
Speaker 1: long time, but I have. Okay, all right, so the
Speaker 1: other thing and then I'm gonna let it go. We
Speaker 1: have to move on. I don't like when well, she
Speaker 1: gets mad at me if I call her and she
Speaker 1: doesn't answer the phone. So or and if you know,
Speaker 1: you're good about sending a text and ham on the
Speaker 1: phone and busy whate whatever, but if you don't, if
Speaker 1: I don't get that text, I try to give you
Speaker 1: a grace period of I don't know, a minute, and
Speaker 1: then if you don't call back, I will call again
Speaker 1: my phone and I will keep calling until she answers,
Speaker 1: because I immediately think, as a mom, something is wrong. This
Speaker 1: girl always answers the phone when I call. But when
Speaker 1: she doesn't, I flip out, and I think, oh my lord,
Speaker 1: now I can't even focus on anything until you confirm
Speaker 1: that you are alive. You know. I sometimes have to shower.
Speaker 2: I sometimes go to get my lashes done, like certain
Speaker 2: things where I physically cannot see or be near the phone.
Speaker 2: So I tell her like, hey, I can't always like
Speaker 2: give me some type of twenty minute grace period or
Speaker 2: even sometimes like you know, if I'm on a date
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you know, like I can't just pick up
Speaker 1: the phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's not always a good time to be
Speaker 2: like hello, like mom, if some like can you give
Speaker 2: me a grace period without me receiving like eight phone
Speaker 2: calls back to back to back and like you basically
Speaker 2: sending a search party out for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I do that as much as
Speaker 1: I used to. I think I've gotten better, So we
Speaker 1: can move on. I think the operative word is you
Speaker 1: think Okay, all right, if we could collapse on something,
Speaker 1: what would it be? What would you want to collapse?
Speaker 1: But we actually wanted want to do a podcast together? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's talking about like our relationship and like
Speaker 1: my perspective on being mom and her perspective on being
Speaker 1: you know, my daughter, and also just start our own
Speaker 1: conventional like the unconventional way I was raised, you know. True,
Speaker 1: it's definitely a lot of different layers. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say a podcasts for sure. All right, So we're back.
Speaker 1: What's one piece of advice you would give to other
Speaker 1: mothers and daughters to strengths and their bond.
Speaker 2: The advice that I would give, honestly is to treat
Speaker 2: your relationship like a team, like a partnership, because I
Speaker 2: think sometimes what ends up happening is, you know, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, we're all human and we
Speaker 2: all make mistakes. It doesn't matter how old you are, Like,
Speaker 2: she's gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make mistakes as a child, She's gonna make the mistakes
Speaker 2: as a parent. But I think what I really can
Speaker 2: value about our relationship that I think continuously improves our
Speaker 2: relationship is the fact that we both told each other accountable.
Speaker 2: And there's like, oh, I'm the parents, so what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is right. There's no like, oh I'm a kid,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be rebellious like whatever. It's like we're
Speaker 2: actually trying to understand, trying to take accountability. And one
Speaker 2: thing I can say about you is that you consistently
Speaker 2: are open to criticism and you're open to just taking
Speaker 2: accountability and improving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're.
Speaker 2: Just because you know you are older, Like you said,
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are older are just like this.
Speaker 2: Is how I like, I'm stuck in my ways, this
Speaker 2: is how that's how I've always been whatever. But just
Speaker 2: because that's how you've always been doesn't mean it's serving.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you're definitely open to that perspective
Speaker 2: and getting that feedback. Well, you may not be open
Speaker 2: when I initially give it, but you know you're open.
Speaker 1: I come around, I don't shut you down, I don't
Speaker 1: cut you off at the knees exactly. I would say
Speaker 1: the best way for a mom and daughter to strengthen
Speaker 1: their relationship is to just have affected communication, Like you
Speaker 1: just cannot take that out of the equation and own
Speaker 1: That goes back to the friendship part of the friendship dynamic.
Speaker 1: In our relationship, we talk about everything, like I call
Speaker 1: her about every single thing she tells me, all her stuff,
Speaker 1: like some things like I want to know, and then
Speaker 1: some things I don't want to know. So communication, communication, communication.
Speaker 1: If your child does not want to talk to you,
Speaker 1: however old or young they are, that is going to
Speaker 1: be a problem because you're not going to know what
Speaker 1: the heck is going on ever, and you want to
Speaker 1: encourage them to feel like they can talk to you
Speaker 1: about everything, because when they do that, you can prevent
Speaker 1: certain things from happening, Like they're going to just leave
Speaker 1: in life and do a bunch of dumb stuff. But
Speaker 1: like if there, if you guys talk all the time,
Speaker 1: you may get to say, hey, you know what, that
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like the best idea. Why don't you come
Speaker 1: up with another idea, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: then just if you can't control your kid, but like
Speaker 1: you can help guid exactly they're gonna do what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do anyway, but you can at least sleep saying well,
Speaker 1: hey I told you when you ask me, you know,
Speaker 1: not run it in that face, but just and hey,
Speaker 1: I'm over here for a reason. I have lived for
Speaker 1: a very long time. I've done a lot of dumb stuff.
Speaker 1: I've made a lot of mistakes. So you're talking to
Speaker 1: someone who has lived so not just giving you, you know,
Speaker 1: information and stuff out of my but like I stand
Speaker 1: on like the stuff that I'm telling you because I
Speaker 1: know what I've been through.
Speaker 2: But I think part of that as a parent, and
Speaker 2: this is obviously like once you get past a certain.
Speaker 1: Point is being able to know when to take.
Speaker 2: The disciplinarian have off and be a front because I think,
Speaker 2: because I think there's some points where it's like you
Speaker 2: do have to be like hey.
Speaker 1: No, like this was like right and be a but
Speaker 1: you just have to come down with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And then there's other things where it's like I know
Speaker 2: I'm telling her a story that may not have been
Speaker 2: like something that I made the best decisions, and I
Speaker 2: know that she can't she won't put.
Speaker 1: On that hat and she'll just genuinely just be a
Speaker 1: front and give me that sound advice. Because if I
Speaker 1: felt like you would just be a disciplinarian at every
Speaker 1: turn no matter what I said, I just wouldn't say so.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean that I wouldn't do them, I
Speaker 1: just wouldn't tell her, which I don't really feel like
Speaker 1: you serve me either one of them, right, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's called being out of the loop because they
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable telling you stuff exactly, and trust me,
Speaker 1: you'd rather know than not. So do I ever embarrass you? Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you embarrass me when you always try to do
Speaker 1: like those dancing videos on Instagram and on the show,
Speaker 1: like when you tried to do the pole dancing class
Speaker 1: that was kind of horrific. For me, I actually did
Speaker 1: a great job in that pole dancing class. You know
Speaker 1: that I kind of killed it. To be honest, I
Speaker 1: personally don't feel about Yeah I met, but everyone loves
Speaker 1: my Do you know how many likes and comments I
Speaker 1: get when I guess I should do more dancing videos.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I've meant to actually focus
Speaker 1: on doing more dancing videos in twenty twenty four, but
Speaker 1: I just got busy with the acting and you know
Speaker 1: all the other you know, jobs and stuff that I
Speaker 1: have going on. But I wish I would love to
Speaker 1: do at least drop a couple of dancing videos a
Speaker 1: week on my social media. Just because you're getting a
Speaker 1: lot of engagement with something doesn't mean that it's necessarily
Speaker 1: like positive, Like, well, people make fun of me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like they have a sin. I mean,
Speaker 1: they still enjoy it, like it, but they're not they're
Speaker 1: not laughing with you, you know what I mean. They're
Speaker 1: laughing like that's something that I'm embarrassed about because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're like my friends just like here's your mom like
Speaker 1: basically trying to work on Instagram, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: that is her that is indeed my mom that you
Speaker 1: just saw. Indeed, Well, I love to dance, and I
Speaker 1: just think at this point in my life, I should
Speaker 1: just be allowed to just do what I want to do.
Speaker 1: If I want to dance, even if people make fun
Speaker 1: of me, they can just let the photo put their
Speaker 1: laugh emode and let me move on with my life. Agreed.
Speaker 1: So most I'm not things, but most people, most people's
Speaker 1: moms also, like don't have like millions and millions of followers,
Speaker 1: so it's like it wouldn't be yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Well, I've had a couple of go by
Speaker 1: I will say, agree, which I thought was a good Okay,
Speaker 1: how would you describe me in three words? I would
Speaker 1: say ambitious, classy, and authentic. Thank you, Iver Seved That
Speaker 1: have you always felt comfortable telling me everything? Not always.
Speaker 2: I think as a kid you go through like those
Speaker 2: little rebellious years when you're a teenager where you just
Speaker 2: kind of just go rogue.
Speaker 1: And I didn't at that point feel so comfortable telling
Speaker 1: you everything. But I think I did come around pretty
Speaker 1: quickly and sooner than most kids do. Yeah, like you
Speaker 1: probably like it was like maybe a year or two
Speaker 1: I didn't like the teen, fourteen and fifteen. Those years,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like closed doors, a lot
Speaker 1: of like hey, you think, no, I'm fine, Hey, how
Speaker 1: was your day? It was good? But you know how
Speaker 1: it is like like it was like everybody goes to
Speaker 1: that town that like one word thing where like they
Speaker 1: you just know they don't like you, and you're just
Speaker 1: asking basic questions like would you like some food and
Speaker 1: you're like no mine. You're like, but you haven't eaten.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Can you please leave me alone? I feel
Speaker 1: like it's like they're terrible twos, but like in teenage years,
Speaker 1: like people go through thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year old Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like I was like, and then you come
Speaker 1: around and realize like, oh, we actually need this person.
Speaker 1: This person is actually trying to help me survive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: open the door and let me back in. Like it was.
Speaker 1: That was tough. That was really tough. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about hearing about my dating life? It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't really mind it, just because we do have the
Speaker 1: type of relationship where we're very unfiltered with each other.
Speaker 1: And I mean, not gonna lie, there's still some moments
Speaker 1: I'm like, m this was kind of a lot that
Speaker 1: you just told me. But overall, I like being able
Speaker 1: to just like shed like some light on my perspective
Speaker 1: on things, just because I feel like the way that
Speaker 1: I navigate dating just in my age group, in the
Speaker 1: way you guys navigate dating and your age group is
Speaker 1: just so different and there's so many different terms and
Speaker 1: different pieces of information that you don't know about and
Speaker 1: vice versa with me. Right well, what I love is
Speaker 1: that you're able to help me navigate a little bit.
Speaker 1: Because again, I'm old school, so I'm used to people
Speaker 1: just picking up phone and calling me if they want
Speaker 1: to talk to me. If I want to talk to them,
Speaker 1: I just call them back right away. I text back.
Speaker 1: If you text me, I text you back right away.
Speaker 1: I'm just very like, okay, so you're trying to get
Speaker 1: to know me, so this is how this should go.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, this is a different time. This is different,
Speaker 1: like dating is different now, and like I honestly, I've
Speaker 1: been single for like a couple of years now, and
Speaker 1: it's been very difficult to just try to figure out
Speaker 1: like even if someone even likes you or not. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you win my dams for ten years,
Speaker 1: like you reached out to me. So now that I
Speaker 1: finally responded, aren't you supposed to be kind of excited
Speaker 1: about it and call me all the time and text
Speaker 1: me all the time? And you've sat in these dams
Speaker 1: all this time wanting my attention and when I finally
Speaker 1: give it to you, now I can't get you on
Speaker 1: the phone. Yeah, I would. That's like definitely a piece
Speaker 1: of dating advice that I feel like I shared with her.
Speaker 1: If there's ever a situation. Obviously I wouldn't say this
Speaker 1: is like one hundred percent of the time, but I
Speaker 1: would probably say ninety five. If you've ignored somebody in
Speaker 1: your dams or just in general that has been trying
Speaker 1: to pursue you, and then you finally like circle around,
Speaker 1: just don't even do it because they're gonna like put
Speaker 1: you through it, Like seriously, it's just not worth it
Speaker 1: because I didn't because I've made them wait so long.
Speaker 1: If you yet, if you ignored it, just keep ignoring you.
Speaker 1: That's just the best thing that I can say. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say.
Speaker 2: It will never work out, but well, I ignored it
Speaker 2: because I was in a relationship at the time.
Speaker 1: But now that I'm single, I'm like, okay, so now
Speaker 1: spend the block Like, Okay, now you will get a
Speaker 1: different outcome if you come for me, because I can
Speaker 1: actually go for a coffee with you or whatever whatever
Speaker 1: people do. Now, yeah, okay, who is your celebrity crush?
Speaker 1: But do you know who? Minus? You don't know who
Speaker 1: my celebrity crushes? Do you have a couple of I
Speaker 1: do not. I have one that I have consistently named
Speaker 1: and called out. It's not a rapper. And like I
Speaker 1: literally have on every major platform talked about the celebrity
Speaker 1: crush it. Who was it? You really don't know what
Speaker 1: it is? Okay? When I said we tell each other everything,
Speaker 1: I don't know you talk about a lot of people.
Speaker 1: One soelebrity crush on this planet. Okay, So when I
Speaker 1: tell you, can I tell you who I thought it was?
Speaker 1: I thought it was fifty Cent's fifty cent? What I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't have anything against fifty cent. I mean we
Speaker 1: do share a nickname, like I'm fifty cent fifty c Why,
Speaker 1: Like we listened to a lot of his music. Still, well,
Speaker 1: I love his music, but I don't have a crush
Speaker 1: on him. He's not my celebrity crush. Like I would
Speaker 1: like to meet him one day because I just I'm
Speaker 1: all the way I think I know what it is?
Speaker 1: Is it the guy from the podcast over right? He
Speaker 1: just just Okay, I'm just gonna say yes because I
Speaker 1: don't want to like, yeah, we're gonna like snaggle through
Speaker 1: like ten people. Go ahead, Noel for Robinson, my first
Speaker 1: born and only born child. My celebrity crush, for the
Speaker 1: love of God is Letty. I would have yeah, you've
Speaker 1: mentioned this, but I wouldn't guessed that one. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: so hurt and disappointed that you don't know that about me.
Speaker 1: This is like public you can google who is Cynthia
Speaker 1: Bailey's celebrity crush and it comes up. I don't need
Speaker 1: you to pay more attentions. I need to do better
Speaker 1: and shout out to fifty I celebrity crush? Who is yours?
Speaker 1: You have one? I don't really like. If I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking about someone on the spot, I would say like, oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well she is cute. Actually did games people play with her?
Speaker 1: And she's super sweet and super cute. She seems like
Speaker 1: super sweet. Yeah she is. I was right about that answer. Okay,
Speaker 1: what did you like and did not like about filming Housewives.
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, I would say, which, like, yeah, the things
Speaker 2: that I did like about filming Housewives is just more
Speaker 2: so coming from who I am as a person, Like
Speaker 2: I'm just a very private person. I don't really like
Speaker 2: for people to know that much about me. So I
Speaker 2: feel like that's probably something that I kind of didn't like.
Speaker 2: Was just you know, people didn't know a lot about
Speaker 2: me from the show, not everything obviously you came on
Speaker 2: when you were eight. Yeah, that's another thing I was
Speaker 2: going to say, Like just filming a reality television show,
Speaker 2: like when you're so young and you know, people forming
Speaker 2: opinions about you as you're literally just growing up just
Speaker 2: living life. I think it was really really difficult on me,
Speaker 2: just always feeling like I had to be a perfectionist,
Speaker 2: like even to this day, like even on my Instagram,
Speaker 2: like I want all my pictures to be like absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2: But as I like dive deeper, I think it's like
Speaker 2: a defense mechanism because I have been like picked a
Speaker 2: part on television for like over a decades. Would say,
Speaker 2: I would say, for me, I feel like being on
Speaker 2: television and being on a reality TV show since I
Speaker 2: was like eight years old. There's constantly so many like
Speaker 2: different opinions that people have like on you, just as
Speaker 2: you're just growing up and being a kid, which I
Speaker 2: think can be a little bit rough on your mental
Speaker 2: It was rough on life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm grown, and it's hard, you know, social
Speaker 1: media the aspect that makes it very difficult. It's not
Speaker 1: like you just like back in my day, you just
Speaker 1: watch show and you just went to sleep after it,
Speaker 1: just like went to dinner, like you didn't go on
Speaker 1: social media and talk about the show and rip apart
Speaker 1: the people on the show. Yeah. So I think like.
Speaker 2: Just me being like a kid and just like growing
Speaker 2: up on there, I think one it did make it
Speaker 2: a bit hard for me socially because you have to
Speaker 2: also understand I'm going to school every day as well,
Speaker 2: Like I'm also like you know, making friends. I'm also
Speaker 2: like you know, calling myself, trying to date, you know,
Speaker 2: like certain things like that. I do feel like it
Speaker 2: definitely made that experience a little bit more difficult. And
Speaker 2: it also I feel made me a bit of a perfectionist.
Speaker 2: Like even on my Instagram, like I'm like so anal
Speaker 2: about all my pictures being perfect and as I like
Speaker 2: Dug a little bit deeper. I think that that just
Speaker 2: more so comes from like me wanting to like appear perfect.
Speaker 2: It's just a defense mechanism from being picked apart for
Speaker 2: so long on reality TV. And it's not to stay
Speaker 2: that like I wasn't. I feel that I was, like,
Speaker 2: you know, for the most part. But when you have
Speaker 2: millions of people watching a show, there's gonna be people
Speaker 2: that just don't like you. And it's okay, you know,
Speaker 2: that's fine, that's just like a part of life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, social media is like a tricky thing because I.
Speaker 1: Will have to say, after eleven years of being on
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta, you know, depending on a scene
Speaker 1: that I was in, depending if I was into it
Speaker 1: one of you know, someone's favorite housewife or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: they would like go in on me or drag me
Speaker 1: or whatever. You're like, oh my god, you're awful, you're
Speaker 1: so boring, you're so stupid, you're so weak, you're so whatever,
Speaker 1: you don't have a boys, you don't have an opinion, whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, all those things would be in social media world.
Speaker 1: And I have to say I was on the show
Speaker 1: for eleven consistent years, and I haven't been on for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. I have yet to see some
Speaker 1: a fan in person come up to me and say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you were just a corrupt Dodo on
Speaker 1: the show. I can't stand in your own show. You
Speaker 1: are a horrible human being. You made watching this show
Speaker 1: like dying of slow death. Like yet for anything come
Speaker 1: up to me and say anything. All I get is
Speaker 1: love in person. Oh my god, you're my favorite. I
Speaker 1: love you. You gotta come back to the show. She's not
Speaker 1: the same with that you. Oh my god, my mom
Speaker 1: loves you, my grandmother loves you, my kids love you.
Speaker 1: Like it's all love in person. But on social media,
Speaker 1: that's when things could be negative and hateful. But you
Speaker 1: have to For me, I put into things in perspective,
Speaker 1: like what's real is when people see exactly what's not
Speaker 1: real is people hiding behind social media. But I think
Speaker 1: also another.
Speaker 2: Piece of this is I grew up in the more
Speaker 2: of the age of social media than what you do,
Speaker 2: you know, And I think social media has been, you know,
Speaker 2: really prevalent, maybe in the past like five or six years.
Speaker 1: And I think when we first started to show, there
Speaker 1: was social media, but it was it wasn't as late. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I kind of grew up in an era of
Speaker 1: like social media was very deep for like pretty much
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't remember when it wasn't random, but
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. So and people, of course, you
Speaker 2: could go through things where people will say like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, just don't read the comments, but you're you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's hard. It's like saying,
Speaker 2: don't eat the blueberry pie. If it tastes good, you're
Speaker 2: gonna eat. You're gonna read the comments. And even at
Speaker 2: the time, like this is before they were like filters
Speaker 2: and different things in place, but you had to read
Speaker 2: a comment to know what's bad to delete it.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I didn't comment to block the person,
Speaker 1: okays know they need to be blocked, exactly. And it's
Speaker 1: hard to just not internalize it. And I think sometimes
Speaker 1: when people see you on television, they just think that
Speaker 1: you're like this larger than like person that you can't
Speaker 1: be affected by. You don't have to build well, okay,
Speaker 1: and we read all the main comments all right, exactly,
Speaker 1: So I think that's that positivity. If you don't like us,
Speaker 1: don't falls exactly. I agree. I don't follow anyone else,
Speaker 1: only follow people that I like. Actually, I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty reasonable thing social media. Follow the
Speaker 1: people you like, don't follow people you don't like.
Speaker 2: And I also say, as a reality show TV kid,
Speaker 2: even just a celebrity kid, I do feel like sometimes
Speaker 2: people have the stigma of like, oh, our life is perfect,
Speaker 2: or like we just don't go through stuff, or like
Speaker 2: if we were to say anything or do anything, we
Speaker 2: kind of automatically get like the wrap.
Speaker 1: Of like being spoiled. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like we go through real stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's like we're going through life just the same
Speaker 2: a lot of the same ways that you guys are,
Speaker 2: and then we're seeing all these crazy comments and it
Speaker 2: would be wrong for me to say, like it doesn't
Speaker 2: affect I could say it definitely has affected me.
Speaker 1: But I've worked on it, you know, so we're you mean, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you like about being a part of the show.
Speaker 2: What I did like about being a part of the
Speaker 2: show is I do feel that in my vulnerability and
Speaker 2: people watching me grow up, there were a lot of
Speaker 2: people that were able to resonate with my personal journey
Speaker 2: in so many different areas, just being afraid to go
Speaker 2: to college, or like even like coming out on the show,
Speaker 2: Like there were just so many different parts of me
Speaker 2: just figuring myself out that I feel.
Speaker 1: Like really made a big impact.
Speaker 2: Like seriously that have gone through like similar experiences that
Speaker 2: to me, or just watching me grow up. I feel
Speaker 2: like it really inspired a lot of people out received
Speaker 2: some like oh when you went through this, like I
Speaker 2: really resonated with this, or oh, like I was thinking
Speaker 2: about going to this place and it resonated with me.
Speaker 2: So just knowing that like my authentic story is having
Speaker 2: like a really positive impact on someone else like that
Speaker 2: always is gonna feel absolutely well.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you that you coming out on the show.
Speaker 1: I never had so many phone calls and dms from
Speaker 1: people that found my number who just commended me and
Speaker 1: you exactly. And the whole situation of other celebrities, uh,
Speaker 1: just other people who have children that are fluid as well.
Speaker 1: It really was like I had no idea. I was
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, well this is just our thing, and
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just talk about our thing. And
Speaker 1: so many other parents were trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to navigate that. You know, their their kids want they
Speaker 1: know you know that.
Speaker 2: They you know, they've decided to that somewhere on the spectrum. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think for for me, I think it was.
Speaker 1: A really excellent presentation of how to interact with, you know,
Speaker 1: a kid who just like them more daughter relationship, of
Speaker 1: how to navigate conversations like that, because there's so many
Speaker 1: situations where it doesn't go that way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I know it was really hard for you
Speaker 1: to do that, to come out on camera, but I
Speaker 1: kind of am really glad you did because I felt
Speaker 1: like it just kind of not only inspired other children
Speaker 1: who are fluid to live in their truth and to
Speaker 1: be comfortable sharing their truth with their parents.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say, like on the spectrum, like
Speaker 2: you're a part of it, Yeah, because there's other people
Speaker 2: that you know are not just fool that are actually.
Speaker 1: Like you know either l yeah, yeah, yeah, Which you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that resonating with it. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't just then So what happens when you're on in
Speaker 1: the reality show, is this say we didn't talk about
Speaker 1: Noel being fluid or whatever, and it just came out
Speaker 1: in real life, not on the show, then it would
Speaker 1: have been foreseen by our reality TV world in social
Speaker 1: media world, like we're hiding it, like this is like
Speaker 1: a secret, like we were maybe ashamed to like talk
Speaker 1: about this. So I love. I feel like what I've
Speaker 1: learned from being on the show for so long is
Speaker 1: that it's really good to just put it out there.
Speaker 1: Just put it out there, because it actually protected you,
Speaker 1: because you want to be in control of your own narrative.
Speaker 1: And in terms of your college the only one, the
Speaker 1: one only regret that I have from being on the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta, It is the only regret that
Speaker 1: I have, and I should regret a feeling the kind embarrassing,
Speaker 1: But my one only regret is filming you go to college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is my one only regret. I will take that
Speaker 1: to the grave as myne regret because I felt like
Speaker 1: I messed up your college situation, your college experience, if
Speaker 1: you will, because we showed up and I thought I
Speaker 1: was doing a good thing. Because Noah was the first
Speaker 1: kid on our show that was shown going to college.
Speaker 1: So it's like we need to show this, we need
Speaker 1: to show our children, you know, going to college. I
Speaker 1: think the first they actually like flew a camera crew.
Speaker 1: No she's like someone who wasn't a housewise, absolutely, like
Speaker 1: we the whole team, Like she showed up to her
Speaker 1: college orientation with like twenty people, Yeah, cameras like we're
Speaker 1: like going to bed bath and beyond getting sheets.
Speaker 2: Like for the orientation, the penning ceremony, like in the
Speaker 2: dorm rooms with the cameras in the hallways.
Speaker 1: So it's like, obviously it ended up being like a spectacle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a complete spectacle.
Speaker 2: And I'm just more so the type of person like
Speaker 2: I was on the show obviously as byproduct of my
Speaker 2: mom being my mom, Like I didn't choose. I didn't choose,
Speaker 2: and also you have to un like I didn't even
Speaker 2: when I first started feeling the show, I was eight.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what I was doing, or like
Speaker 2: the long term ramifications of like I didn't know what
Speaker 2: I was doing either, you know. So it's just like
Speaker 2: there's so many different phases of you growing up that
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're happy the cameras were not filming, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I like just didn't have that luxury,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, which is fine, you know, but
Speaker 2: like I definitely would say just having the camera crew
Speaker 2: there definitely really impacted my personal experience in college. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got a lot of unwanted attention, and that's just
Speaker 2: not how I Literally, people were like befriending you because
Speaker 2: they were fans of mine or fans of your dad,
Speaker 2: and so you didn't know who was really coming to
Speaker 2: date me or like, you know, there's just so many
Speaker 2: different you didn't know what was real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and it just kind of threw off like
Speaker 1: basically just my ability to even make that word, and
Speaker 1: like you just threw.
Speaker 2: Friendships, and you know, just even if I wasn't on
Speaker 2: the show going through, and you know, people deal with
Speaker 2: fake friends all time, or like you know, people deal
Speaker 2: with toxic relationships or certain things like that. So it's
Speaker 2: already difficult to navigate that as a human being in general,
Speaker 2: So having all that additional attention, I just think it
Speaker 2: was a bit difficult. Also, keep in mind, I was
Speaker 2: homeschool for two years prior and I took a gap year,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't I don't feel that really. I was
Speaker 2: probably the most equipped, you know, with the social skill
Speaker 2: when I first got there, So I think adding the
Speaker 2: canvas as well was just like a recipe for disaster regret.
Speaker 1: But it happened, and you know, I learned from it
Speaker 1: and it's all good. Well I'm sorry, and I always
Speaker 1: tell you that, and I love you because anything I do,
Speaker 1: I always like think that it's like gonna be good
Speaker 1: for you and good for us or whatever. So my
Speaker 1: intention was to just be like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be great. But I'm kind of backfy too. Do you
Speaker 1: think that I am iconic? Definitely? But I mean you're
Speaker 1: not an biased But even even aside from that, yes,
Speaker 1: like in so many different ways, like you like you're
Speaker 1: just you know, you are a supermodel back in your day,
Speaker 1: and like you just have done so many things with it,
Speaker 1: Like you're an actress. I'm not technically a supermodel. I'm
Speaker 1: very successful. You you are, Okay, I'm speaking from my experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is when the people be like, she went on supermodel,
Speaker 1: she's supermodest. I was a.
Speaker 2: Supermodel to Noel, so that's all they met exactly. So
Speaker 2: you've just gone after so many things, and I feel
Speaker 2: like you kind of just broke the stigma that like
Speaker 2: you can only just be one thing or be really
Speaker 2: known for one thing, because I feel like you're really
Speaker 2: known for like a couple of different days.
Speaker 1: At this point with a lot of chapters. All right,
Speaker 1: next question, Uh, are you ever recognized in public? Yes,
Speaker 1: and more.
Speaker 2: Often than I would think, Like, I don't ever think
Speaker 2: that I'm really anybody, like just because there's just so
Speaker 2: many more people that are way more well known than me,
Speaker 2: and I also don't really go out that much, and
Speaker 2: so it's just I don't really think that really anybody.
Speaker 2: So when people do recognize me, a lot of times
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, there's somebody I'm like.
Speaker 1: In j LO, but I mean, like do I need
Speaker 1: to pull out? Why what are we looking at?
Speaker 2: And then they're like me like like no, I love you,
Speaker 2: Like oh my god, I'm like wait what Like I
Speaker 2: always like, honestly, I don't think there's one time that
Speaker 2: I've been like spotted and recognized that I wasn't completely
Speaker 2: taken off guard. And a lot of people do say like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like you're so humble or whatever. But I think, actually,
Speaker 2: just like in denial, don't think that I won't recognize you.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you get me somewhere and someone will
Speaker 1: text me be like, oh my god, I'm a so
Speaker 1: and so having tea time and I see no Wallas
Speaker 1: here like my like, I have people that recognize you
Speaker 1: anytime you Yeah, and I think I am going out
Speaker 1: more now.
Speaker 2: So I think as I've gone out more, I've been
Speaker 2: getting recognized really consistently. So I kind of just caused
Speaker 2: like a bit of black and I was like, wait, okay,
Speaker 2: this is really the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, sorry, you're famous. Let's say, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about me doing sex scenes on TV
Speaker 1: as a actress?
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a bit weird, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: really FaZe me, just because, like I said, we like
Speaker 2: tell each other so much, so it's like.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's like I know that this acting. Well,
Speaker 1: I just did a movie and I had a bunch
Speaker 1: of sex scenes in it and it's coming.
Speaker 2: Out, Like I think it would be different, like and
Speaker 2: I also just my dad's an actor as well, Like
Speaker 2: I know how it works, so it's like I'm not
Speaker 2: really like I know what it actually is behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: Like I think it would be different like that was released,
Speaker 2: Like what do you like that would be?
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think about your dad and
Speaker 1: I acting in a movie together? I think that would
Speaker 1: be like pretty amazing. I know, actually I want to, like,
Speaker 1: I really she want to work with Lyon, So we'll
Speaker 1: see if that happens. Who is your favorite out of
Speaker 1: all my former ATL castmates and who is your least favorite?
Speaker 1: When my mom's filming for the show, whatever type of
Speaker 1: energy and things that are going on when she's filming,
Speaker 1: she does take that stuff home with her, And to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I end up getting in front
Speaker 1: of it. So I would just saying whoever is coming
Speaker 1: for her that day, and I get the brunt of it.
Speaker 1: I don't like them that they're not my favorite.
Speaker 2: And you know, whoever's making my life easier and defending
Speaker 2: her and putting her in a good movie.
Speaker 1: She comes back from the scene, you're my favorite. They're
Speaker 1: being nice to me, their favorite if they're coming from me,
Speaker 1: put her off, and now she's like in a bad
Speaker 1: movie and then up coming home mad. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: my favorite at that point exactly. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: this is what family traditions we have. You know what
Speaker 1: I love? I love when we do our mom daughter trips. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's something we just try to do. We got to
Speaker 1: schedule it for this year. We're supposed to go on
Speaker 1: to cruise. Actually, yeah, but like I'm love spending one
Speaker 1: on one time with you, going on our trips. And
Speaker 1: I think part of that for me is I live
Speaker 1: in like the mom guilt bubble of you know, with
Speaker 1: all these acts in chapters and things that I've done
Speaker 1: in my life, you know, to just be successful. I
Speaker 1: missed a lot of stuff. I missed a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: You were taken care of. You had Nanny's, you had
Speaker 1: Leon's mom, you had my mom. But it's not the
Speaker 1: same as like it you actually being there, like your prejudice,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But but she's done so much. It's like it's like
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: like you're amazing, Like you provide such an amazing life.
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful, but like I also missed you, and
Speaker 1: I feel like both of those feelings are valid, you know. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is the last question, and it's pretty easy. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think do you think that we are similar? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like we're opposites, but we have a
Speaker 1: lot it works. Yeah, but you're like not similar at all.
Speaker 1: We're really not. But I do like that, and this
Speaker 1: is like reflective of your life and even how you
Speaker 1: care yourself on Instagram, Like, I do think you are
Speaker 1: very classy, and I feel like you know at you
Speaker 1: know in your twenties, like as a young twenty year old,
Speaker 1: still you know, figuring it all out for twenty four
Speaker 1: year old. I think that on SOI media, people don't
Speaker 1: always big a class and I love that you handle
Speaker 1: yourself with class. I appreciate that a lot. I would
Speaker 1: like to think you get that from me? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you did get that from here? Yes, I got it
Speaker 1: from me, I would say, yeah, I don't feel like
Speaker 1: we're similar, like I just I just truly don't. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like you're more like an extrovert and more
Speaker 1: of an introvert. Like I feel like we're like opposites
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, right, I'm like big, I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. My mom's like want to be healthy,
Speaker 1: but like I'm like like super healthy, like.
Speaker 2: Just like just in every way, Like I'm interested in,
Speaker 2: like you know, doing my house a certain way, and
Speaker 2: she's like, I'll just get whatever I can like and
Speaker 2: just put in the house.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm easier kind of like just
Speaker 1: very specific and like I go.
Speaker 2: I think the difference between you and me a lot
Speaker 2: of times is that I like demand what I want
Speaker 2: out of the universe and you're just like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: like okay, but I'm like, no, I'm going to get
Speaker 2: this And this is just.
Speaker 1: How that's true. That's true. And I've gotten better as
Speaker 1: a result of like seeing how you move, Like I'm
Speaker 1: much more specific about what I want and I'm much
Speaker 1: more intentional about what i want and uh, which is
Speaker 1: probably why I'm so thinkle because I just don't want
Speaker 1: I love love to find love. I'm always looking for
Speaker 1: my person, but I just don't want any love. I
Speaker 1: want a nurturing man. I want a kind man. I
Speaker 1: want like there's so many things that are just deal
Speaker 1: breakers for me at this point, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to den my light for anyone. So this person has
Speaker 1: to come hole and he has to be secure and
Speaker 1: needs to want me to like shine.
Speaker 2: But I think he holds you accountable, you know, because
Speaker 2: I feel like we're different in dating as well, Like
Speaker 2: we are like definitely a lot different in dating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And anytime she sees me going down that road
Speaker 1: of like getting in my light or like like I'm
Speaker 1: not dating for the things that I know that it's
Speaker 1: good for me in a relationship.
Speaker 2: She's like, mmm, she calls me out basically, Well, I
Speaker 2: just think also, I think part of that is a
Speaker 2: generational thing too, because I feel like I'm in a
Speaker 2: generation where like people are even going to contact with
Speaker 2: their family members, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: we're not taking anything, and it's like we're in a situation.
Speaker 1: We're even at a job that doesn't service we leave,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you know, in their generations,
Speaker 1: they for like thirty forty years, like we don't like
Speaker 1: the job and it's over with, We're gonna leave. That
Speaker 1: goes for the relationship, the friendships, the family members whatever.
Speaker 1: Like we just try to protect protect your piece a
Speaker 1: lot more. And I think because of that, like me
Speaker 1: talking about your dating life, I am able to drop
Speaker 1: those gems on you. Then I learn it just from
Speaker 1: being bombs whatever you want to call it. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I think this is a great place to stop, you know,
Speaker 1: just protecting our peace and just being at peace. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I want my own personal piece.
Speaker 1: I know you meet your own personal peace, and we
Speaker 1: have to respect each other's space and peace and who
Speaker 1: we are. You know, we are still two separate people.
Speaker 1: This is my daughter. I'm her mother, but she has
Speaker 1: her own life and her own identity, and I have
Speaker 1: my own life and my own identity, and I respect
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: And I think our relationship improved a lot too when
Speaker 2: we stop trying to like they think that the only
Speaker 2: one way was right. Like I think you as a parent,
Speaker 2: like I saw you grow a lot as a parent
Speaker 2: when you realize, like, hey, I'm not going to handle
Speaker 2: certain things the way that you would handle it, because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't care about that, and I care about it
Speaker 2: a lot, like you can take me under. But I
Speaker 2: think once you realize, like, hey, this is my kid.
Speaker 2: My kid is sensitive, Like I'm not sensitive, but my
Speaker 2: kid is sensitive, and that's okay. You know, my kid
Speaker 2: may take this harder than I'm taking it right now,
Speaker 2: and that's okay.
Speaker 1: So I think once you just started, and just because
Speaker 1: I consider myself to be strong and mean that you
Speaker 1: have to be strong because you're who you are is
Speaker 1: based off of your upbringing and my experience. My upbringing,
Speaker 1: my experiences, So just embracing each other's differences is to
Speaker 1: something that I would say is really important as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you so much. You are
Speaker 1: the wind beneath my wings. I always say that, and
Speaker 1: I hope that I have. I've done more good than
Speaker 1: bad and good that it's been more positive than negative.
Speaker 1: And I thank you for just loving me unconditionally because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's are the only
Speaker 1: ones that is going to do that, and accepting me
Speaker 1: for my flaws and forgiven me for my mistakes and
Speaker 1: staying with you as well. Thank you so much, Love you,