1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey, this is another week of the 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. We're here to break down the most 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: recent episode of Matt James this season. Ashley, there is 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: an episode out there, uh that we recorded. Uh tell 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: everybody where they can find it. So yesterday we dropped 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: an episode that is exclusively about Race and the franchise. Um. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: We have Devon Franklin on and he's a media mogul. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Um He's he's an inspirational speaker, and he does such 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: a fantastic job of talking about race in this franchise 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: and how far we need to go. He It was 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: such a powerful moving episode. I think Ben and I 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: got emotional at times. We really urge you to listen 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: to it. It's you know, it was all based on 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the fact that there was that interview last week on 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Extra between Chris Harrison and Rachel Lindsay and um, yeah, 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: so we we want that conversation to keep continuing. Um. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Will's said this week. You know Wills from a couple 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: of seasons ago. He said, I sincerely hope this isn't 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: another black box with quotes around a moment where people 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: speak up against racism because it's the topic of the day. 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to see the retreat back into comfort 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: after one day, after one post. I'm loving the energy 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm seeing and all I ask is to keep it up. 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: So we want to keep it up. We want to 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: make sure that this is something that we continue to 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: talk about on this podcast. I reached out to a 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: couple of the girls from this season to discuss the 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: joint statement that they put out last week. I don't 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: know if you guys saw, but all wow, there's like 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: thirty something girls from this season and they put together 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: a statement in response to the Rachel and Chris interview, 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: and it read this, we are the women of Bachelor 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Season twenty five women who identify as b I p 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: o C were cast on this historic season that was 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: meant to represent change. We're deeply disappointed and want to 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: make it clear that we denounce any defense of racism. 38 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Any defense of racist behavior denies the lived in continued 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: experiences of b I p o C individuals. If you 40 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: guys don't know what b I p o C means, 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: that means black Indigenous people of color. They continue to 42 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: say these experiences are not to be exploited or tokenized. 43 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay continues to advocate with grace for individuals who 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: identify as b I p o C within this franchise. 45 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Just because she is speaking the loudest doesn't mean that 46 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: she is alone. We stand with her, We hear her 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: when we advocate for change alongside her. So I wanted 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: to do a little research as to how these girls 49 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: got together and came up with this statement. So I 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: reached out to a couple of them, and Chelsea responded, 51 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: and she was She told me that I was able 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: to use her words and and talk about what she 53 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: said on our podcast. She said that the women who 54 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: wrote this statement would like to remain anonymous, but in 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: order to continue to lift B I p o C voices, 56 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: please feel free to mention that it was written by 57 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: six women of color. They spoke, worked on and wrote 58 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: on a statement together. She said she doesn't want to 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: speak for others, but she can say that last week 60 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: she felt really disappointed and a little defeated. She said, 61 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot of this season has felt like one step 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: forward and two steps two steps back. If you guys 63 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: did listen to the episode yesterday or the one that 64 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: we recorded yesterday with Devon, we address the one step 65 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: forward and two steps back that she mentioned. She continues 66 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: to say that she specifically feels like this extra interview 67 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: was too important not to speak up about. She said 68 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: she didn't want people like Rachel Lindsay or people like 69 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Taylor Nolan to feel like they were alone or and 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: that that they weren't supported. She said that we are 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: allowed to, of course discuss that. She has told me 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: this on the podcast. UM, so yeah, we're just gonna 73 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: keep talking about it. We gotta keep talking about it. 74 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Um and hopefully we will grow and change in this 75 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: franchise will be better because of it. You know. One 76 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: of the things that Devon kind of hinted to and 77 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: and talked about is like the power. It reminds me 78 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: of that. Remember the old story that we used to 79 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: hear about the starfish and the kid that walks down 80 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: the beach throwing one starfish at a time in the ocean, 81 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: and the conclusion of that is like, uh, if he 82 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: gets questioned on that, and the kids responses like, well, 83 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: at least I helped that one. Well, talking to Von 84 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: reminded me that you know, yes we have a podcast, 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: but you know this takes up a very small amount 86 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: of my time, and it takes up a very small 87 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: amount of your time, and it takes up a lot, 88 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: a very small amount of time of our listeners. That 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: this conversation needs to continue, uh out far outside of 90 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: the podcast, into our communities and networks, into the people 91 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: that we come in contact with, so that we can 92 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: continue to help the one or be a part of 93 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: the solution and not the problem. We can help and 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: not hurt, which is something I've kind of coined this year, 95 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: is my phrase. Um So yeah, you know, I think 96 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: when we look at this, maybe the conclusion to all 97 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: this is we can't let the conversation stop here. We 98 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: can't let this, as Wills said, like just be another 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: moment where we we advocate and then we step back. 100 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: It's hey, this is something that is it is not 101 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: only needed, but it's also hurting people. And I hope 102 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: to our listeners on the show, and I hope and 103 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I know for you personally, is uh, we don't want 104 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: to live life hurting other people and we want to 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: be a part of the solution. So uh, with that, Ashley, 106 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: let's take a break here. We are going to break 107 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: down this week's episode, we are going to talk about 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines. We're gonna do a normal podcast, but again 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: we encourage you to go back and listen to our 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: conversation with the von Franklin which was posted on Monday. Well, 111 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: we got another week of The Bachelor. Now it feels 112 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: like to me, actually, I'm gonna even hold my opinions 113 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: on this episode, uh until we kind of intermixed them 114 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: into the conversation. Uh. But we're obviously excited about this 115 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: week for a couple of reasons. One of those reasons 116 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: is because we have a cliffhanger and Heather Martin has 117 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: walked into the brand new, very big, very beautiful Bachelor 118 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: mansion and we have no clue how it's gonna play out. 119 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: But this week we see it play out. We do 120 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: and it wasn't much different than what we predicted last week. 121 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: She comes in, he says, Okay, give me a minute 122 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: to think about this. He actually holds a lot um 123 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Hannah Brown's opinion, like it holds a lot of weight 124 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: for him. The whole reason that he even said like 125 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: hang around is because he needed to decide whether the 126 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: opinion of such a close friend should kind of overweigh Um, 127 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: how far he's come with some of these other girls, 128 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: and and to make that disruption if he were to 129 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: allow her to join this group so late in the game. Um. 130 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: But ultimately he decides that he's just come too far 131 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: with the other women, tells Heather that she you know, 132 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 1: she can't stay. Um, but it was very of course 133 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: the way he does it is so sweet. Um. He 134 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: says that, you know, if we were in San Diego 135 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: right now would be a different story, but that's not 136 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: the case. And um, she goes home. But again, I 137 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: think we see a bullying moment um just like the girls. 138 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to be super warm and 139 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: welcoming to a girl who's coming in during week six 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: slash seven. You know, I understand how agitating that can be. 141 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: But for Kit to say, bitch, what are you doing here? 142 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you? I don't want to 143 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: then there's other people who are saying like, I don't 144 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: want to hear your tears. Um, what's her name again? 145 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Like there's just like a lot of just cattiness again, 146 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: and it's just like this girl is already in such 147 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: a vulnerable position to make her feel like this on 148 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: top of it was like, again disappointing to see, but 149 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe not shocking. Well, yeah, that was my bit when 150 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: I was actually very surprised, especially with kind of I 151 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: don't know, it's kind of you know, it's kind of 152 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: this we we I thought, I guess that after the 153 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: a few weeks the bowling would stop. I was surprised 154 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: at how mean they were to Heather, Like it was 155 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: death fully mean. I don't think anybody's gonna argue that 156 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: it was a very uncomfortable situation that they didn't know Heather, 157 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: that they obviously didn't want her there, which I don't 158 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't even disagree with, like, of course you don't 159 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: want her there, but it was it was hostile um 160 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: and she sat in that and obviously she did go home, 161 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: which was I'm gonna say probably for the best for her, 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Like I think sticking around there would have been even worse. 163 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: And and I was kind of sitting there actually expecting 164 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: what was happened, which was Heather going home, and I 165 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: was like, please don't stay, not because I don't like Heather. 166 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: She's been on the podcast, She's a sweet girl. I 167 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you'd make a match with mad or not. 168 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: But it was like, please don't stay, because then that's 169 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: the storyline that we here now for the next few weeks. 170 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: And we're getting so far in this season that I 171 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: am again and I'm harping on it every week. I 172 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: want to see the love stories. I don't want to 173 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: see the drama at this point. It's it's been way overplayed, 174 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: it's way over used. Uh. And so how they did 175 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: go home? Well, others went home as well. We walked 176 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: then into a Rose ceremony, uh and uh. And some 177 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: of our favorites go home. Well, Chelsea went home in 178 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Serena c went home again. Every single Rose ceremony for 179 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: the past four or five weeks, I am mind blown 180 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: by somebody who leaves, and this week it was Chelsea. 181 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: I was d m ing her, as I said earlier 182 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: in this podcast, um, and then and then I had 183 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: to d m her and be like, wait, wait a second, 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: you're eliminated in this episode at the top of this episode. 185 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: I did not see that coming at all. We've seen 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: such strong moments from her during group dates over the 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: past three weeks that I thought it was going to 188 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: be Abigail leaving at that Rose ceremony. I love Abigail, 189 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, but just like a connection wise, it just 190 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: seemed like she was falling off and Chelsea was gaining steam. 191 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: But there's there she went, and I mean it makes 192 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: sense that she would have left in this episode. We 193 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: see so many people go home in this episode. You know, 194 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: it's truly chopped the cast in half. Um, But I 195 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: think it was just interesting the way that she went 196 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: um earlier on it's Uh. I would define this episode 197 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: as the episode where uh, again a lot of our 198 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: favorites exit, Like this was like a big gut punch 199 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: when it comes to some of our favorites. And obviously 200 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: the first row ceremony is the first example of that, 201 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: and we're going to get into Abigail and just a 202 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: bit um, but we move on from the road ceremony 203 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: to the first one on one day of this episode 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: that's with Serena. Puh. The date card says can our 205 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: love go deeper? Which can mean so many weird different things. 206 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: And it was weird and it was different and it 207 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: didn't mean some awkward things, yes it did. So they 208 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: did tan tricky yoga in like basically sex positions. Um. 209 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have loved this date. They've done something like 210 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: this before. I remember Chase and Jojo did it. Um. 211 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: I think there's probably been another one. Um. Matt is, 212 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, really affectionate. He doesn't really care when it 213 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: comes to p d A. And apparently we learned that 214 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Serena is not that way at all. She's wanting it 215 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: to be over the entire time. She said she was 216 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: beyond her comfort zone. Matt really says that, Well, Matt 217 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: really enjoyed the activity, um, but also really enjoys that 218 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: Serena is so honest with how she didn't like it afterward. 219 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I was thinking, like at points 220 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: during this date that they weren't super compatible. I really 221 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: like Serena. I like her honesty, but I was thinking, like, 222 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: are are there? Love language is going to be compatible 223 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: if he's like all into this affection and sexuality and 224 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not, I'm not like this, Like I'm 225 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: feeling very uncomfortable. Did you find the same Yeah? I 226 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: mean love language is funny because you you want to 227 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: find somebody that is compatible, but you also can find 228 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: that adventure and the incompatibility or you know, so maybe 229 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: off the show. I think this is a big telling 230 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: moment for the the experience on the show. When you're 231 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: on the show, Uh, you don't have that time to 232 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: it and watch a movie, or you don't have that 233 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: time to be intimate in whatever way that you feel 234 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: feel as fit without cameras around. But cameras are around, 235 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: people are watching at all times. If that is something 236 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: makes you uncomfortable, well, then the show is gonna be 237 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: really hard for you. And so I actually then after 238 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: the date was over, I was like, Okay, if Matt no, 239 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: she's uncomfortable, realizes that she was, Uh, I'm gonna say awkward. 240 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if she was awkward, but she was 241 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: just like not feeling the moment, and yet still keeps 242 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: her around, and there's something very like he's feeling very 243 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: serious about her completely agree because it seems like once 244 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: they hit that little disagreement, he wanted to just keep 245 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: pushing forward. Yes, exactly. So he's like, hey, I get it, 246 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: I I now see this, I understand it, and yes, 247 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: this this is a little bit disheartening because it would 248 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: have been a great day and we could have made 249 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: out and like done all this stuff. But then he's like, hey, 250 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I respect the situation. If I respect you enough and 251 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: I like you enough to now still keep you around 252 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: even though this was this was weird this, that's this 253 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: that they didn't necessarily like flow and fit well. So 254 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: what it tells me is she's somebody to watch out for. 255 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if he ends up with her at 256 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: the end, but it's definitely now, like the very first 257 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: as we get down in the final weeks here, the 258 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: first telling uh connection outside of maybe Rachel that we're like, okay, 259 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: this is something very serious now maybe, but like, can 260 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I just say, I feel like maybe she's not all 261 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: the way there with him, and I think we're seeing that, 262 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: but the scene to the next episode with her family, 263 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: she's kind of maybe doubting if she's one into him, 264 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like, if you are so into somebody, 265 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: like you'd want to do that date even if it 266 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: was in public. Yeah. I don't know. I feel weird 267 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: about this. I've always felt weird about affection on television. Like, 268 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: even though I was the Bachelor and it happened like 269 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: there was not like you know, you can kiss, there's 270 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: like boundaries there. But as soon as things started to 271 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: get like superheated or like you know that moment felt 272 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: like it was going beyond uh like PGT. That wouldn't 273 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: have been comfortable, and it definitely makes you feel like 274 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: a different sort of way, like you know your grandma's 275 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: watching this, you know your your family's watching this. You 276 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are watching that, like, hey, 277 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: we're you know, it just made me feel weird. Um, 278 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: But if we go on, she does get the rose, 279 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: she's gonna be around and we get a new date 280 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: card which Piper, Michelle, Rachel, Bree, Abigail are all on 281 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the card, which feels so weird to say because a 282 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: lot of these girls aren't here going in the next week. 283 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I read this list and it's weird 284 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: that this is, you know, the episode that we're breaking 285 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: down because a lot of these girls do go home 286 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: but just send you. Then gets the one on one, 287 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: so we see that we know that after the show 288 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: or after this date, the date card reads leve will 289 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: always find a way. But I think there must have 290 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: been something cut out because they go straight into the 291 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: nighttime portion of the date. That's interesting. Yeah, that is 292 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing there with that date card meaning to go 293 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: into the day, you know what I think? Yeah, no, 294 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: you're right, and like, what is that like a scavenger hunt? 295 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Is it something like that just didn't work? Did whether 296 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: or not that whether or not handle the well? But 297 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: you're right. It is funny because that is a note 298 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: that you're always good at this stuff. I watched it 299 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: and I haven't in here like uh, the nighttime portion notes, 300 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: but I didn't even think about like the fact that 301 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: the date never happened. Uh, that's Ashley good note. Once again, 302 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: give Ashley, I can Eddie credit. She has dissected the 303 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: production and she's realized that we only saw the nighttime portion. Well, 304 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: the nighttime portion was full of some really important moments, right, 305 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: like we we learned a lot, we saw a lot 306 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: and uh. And Matt, I think, is really starting to 307 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: identify who he's most into, and we see this on 308 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: the nighttime portion. So our first serious conversation is with 309 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Bree and she breaks to him that she had to 310 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: resign from her position at her work in order to 311 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: be with him any further. I know a lot of 312 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: of people when they go into the Bachelor, like their 313 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: place of work gives them, you know, two weeks a 314 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: month or whatever, it seems based on where she is 315 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: in this she probably had to resign after a month, 316 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: And could you imagine the amount of guilt he would 317 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: have hearing that conversation, hearing her tell him that if 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: she was on the chopping block now, like I think 319 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: we all knew that she wasn't really on the chopping block, 320 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: so we all had a sigh of relief, but still 321 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: all the guilt. I would uh, I would say that, 322 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: like I I wouldn't wish that upon any bachelor or 323 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: bachelorette to have that conversation. Like, I don't know if 324 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: Brie will look back on that. We could ask her 325 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: at some point, I'm sure we'll have on and say, 326 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: do you ever regret that conversation? Because I think she's like, hey, 327 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: I needed to share him this. He's like the most 328 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: important person in my life right now, and he needs 329 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: to know where I'm coming from. He needs to know 330 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: how serious I am about it. But it was like 331 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: it felt to me like Matt was like, oh no, 332 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I like you, but like now I 333 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: feel really weird because I like somebody else too, and 334 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: like now I feel much pressure. Here's okay, side note 335 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: a little frustration, breeze awesome and like we're not seeing 336 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: enough of her. Like we saw the one on one 337 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: day weeks ago, we haven't really seen bree Tell me 338 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong since then, we don't know a lot 339 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: about Bree. Here we are, They're sitting down there having 340 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: this wonderful conversation and she is opening up to him. 341 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: If it's appropriate or not, that's beside the point. They're 342 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: opening up to each other. They're having this very romantic conversation, 343 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Bree, where have you been? And then 344 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not your fault. You've been around the 345 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: whole time. I know, And I think it goes back 346 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: to my brief conversation with Chelsea. She brings up two things. 347 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: One that there are too many girls on this season. 348 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: When you added up it is about thirty seven thirty 349 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: eight girls. That is crazy and it is too much 350 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: because you can't focus on the love stories enough. And 351 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: then secondly, she brings up the fact that it was 352 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: so bogged down by drama that so many of these 353 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: love stories were never told. And think about the amount 354 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: of time we would have to get to know Matt 355 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and Breeze connection if we just eliminated a little bit 356 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: of the Serena and Katie fight last week, the the 357 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Victoria drama, all that stuff like that, it would have 358 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: made room to get to know Bree better. Yes, I 359 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: agree with you. Actually it's a it's a weird thing. 360 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Bree. She still has my 361 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: vote sticking to that. Well, uh, you know, we obviously 362 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: see the connection once again between Rachel Matt. Matt does. 363 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Rachel does end up getting the rose from Matt, and um, 364 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Abigail goes home and and Abigail goes home, which I'm 365 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: saying here, let's pause at this point because I'm on 366 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: Abigail's team. I don't think she got a fair shot. 367 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why shouldn't get a fair shot. She 368 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: gets the first impression rose. There seems to be this 369 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: really magical connection. Where did it go wrong? I'm asking 370 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: myself this question, Like we never saw anything of Abigail again. 371 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because she didn't like really speak to Mat again, 372 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: but it's like, no, she had to have right, Like 373 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: they've had to have conversations leading up to this point. 374 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: But every week we're holding on saying Abigail's gotta get 375 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: a rose, like I got get I gotta get the 376 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: one on one. Abigail's gotta get the one on one, 377 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: and it never happens, and then she goes home in 378 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: this fashion, and I feel like, as a fan, I 379 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: didn't get enough Abigail, like we we just never got 380 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: enough of her as a human. And I was excited 381 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: for that because I really thought that was something special. 382 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: I didn't everybody was saying that she was going to 383 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: be going home because it just didn't have I didn't 384 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: want to believe it, and now, well I gotta believe it. Well, 385 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: she definitely is a front runner, I think for Bachelorette, 386 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: because she is one of the most endearing girls and 387 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: the one that we are crazy even to see more 388 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: of that we never did. Matt's explanation as to what 389 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: happened to them was interesting. He said, I felt our 390 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: connection was so strong off the top that I let it, 391 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: just like sit um and I let other relationships build 392 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: because I was so sure of what we had. But 393 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: then in doing that, those other relationships grew stronger. And 394 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: it's just really interesting the way like he kind of 395 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: put it on the back burner and then never it 396 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: never brought it off. That that back burner never never 397 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: did it. Maybe it's because he's right, like relationships did 398 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: progress past it, and he was kind of having tunnel 399 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: vision now for a few of these women in that 400 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: Abigail didn't fit into that view that he thought his 401 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: life was going to shake out to be with. Maybe 402 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: that is what happened. Maybe he knew he had someone 403 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: with Abigail, relationships progress past it, he couldn't see it 404 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: catching up. So she goes home. I'm sad about it. 405 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people will probably 406 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: be sad about it. But the positive is that maybe, 407 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: just possibly she could be our next bachelor and who 408 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: she would have a fan in us. Well, Rachel does 409 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: get the rose from the date. Uh. Interesting moment during 410 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: this date is that when Rachel gets the rose, it's 411 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: the first time this whole season that there is this 412 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: kind of overarching cloud of um defeat amongst the other 413 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: like the women on that date, Like you could just 414 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: see in the room that everybody's heart sank. Uh. You 415 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: could tell that something was about to happen because you 416 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: saw everybody's face, and everybody's face is either thinking, of 417 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: course it's Rachel. He's obviously into Rachel, or it's just 418 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: I really wanted to be here next week, and now 419 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: I have to wait till Rose ceremony again to figure 420 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: that out, and like that's scary to me. But it 421 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: was a it's a heavy moment. It was one of 422 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: those um grand moments to that highlights the couple where 423 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, you're getting basically rewarded. Now you're getting 424 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: your own alone time, you're getting this concert moment. This 425 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: is something that Jared brought up earlier that I think 426 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: that since we're talking about Rachel, it's right to bring 427 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: him now. A lot of speculation has gone on this 428 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: week that like, the only reason that Chris would be 429 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: so defensive of Rachel Kay in that interview with Rachel 430 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Lindsay is because Rachel Kay wins this. Do you think 431 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: if Rachel does win this? And this is just coming 432 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: from Jared and it sounds better coming from him, but 433 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: like he seemed to have an interesting argument should we 434 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: spoil the season? Like should the season be spoiled? Should 435 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: ABC do it and be like, this is Rachel, She's 436 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: our winner, um, and we're going to address all the 437 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: racial stuff going on right now between her because it's 438 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: just too odd to watch this season with the it's 439 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: the was it called the elephant in the room. It's 440 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: just like an elephant in the room, you know. I 441 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't that's hard. Yes, My my initial response is no. 442 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: And here's why. It is Matt's journey and the girl's 443 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: journey to figure out. And so once that journey plays out, Uh, 444 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: then uh we can kind of see it to conclusion. Right. 445 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: So is it is this a moment that's different than 446 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: others where it's like if they did spoil it, I 447 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: would be shocked. No, I wouldn't be shocked at all. 448 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: And I can't even say it would be the wrong 449 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: thing to do. It's just I have a feeling they're 450 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, um, Matt, this is this is your 451 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: story as the Bachelor, and we're gonna let this thing 452 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: finish out however along the way. Um, you know, I 453 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: do think there's some things that the franchise needs to 454 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: do and confront before the finale, But I don't think 455 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be spoiling the end. I don't know 456 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: if that helps or hurts or solves anything at that moment. Well, Uh, 457 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: speaking of solving something, Kit doesn't feel like her relationship 458 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: with Matt is able to be solved, is able to 459 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: work out, and we see that when Matt gets back 460 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: to the house, he's kind of strolling around his incredible 461 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: path that they haven't living in and uh and Kit 462 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: shows up with her mind made, and it's made in 463 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: one way. It's very weird to me because she is 464 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: freaking out a couple hours earlier, sitting around that couch. 465 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: She said, it is my face just tomato red right 466 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: now because she's like kind of just taking a back 467 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: or shocked that she's not going forward. Um, she just was. 468 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: She just felt like she was very invested during that 469 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: group day in getting further along with Matt. And then 470 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: she shows up and says, I don't think I'm I'm there. 471 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I can feel confident in me being 472 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: your future wife. And you deserve somebody who feels confident 473 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: in that now. And it's funny because she had earlier 474 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: said like, this is my plan of life. I'm not 475 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: going to have kids until I'm like I have a timeline. 476 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: She went through that with him. He seemed down with it, 477 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and then she was like, you know what, never minds 478 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you're the guy for me anyway. Can 479 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: I can I make an assumption a theory that's so 480 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: unwarranted and could could be completely false. Yes, please do kids. 481 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Mom is a well known person. I wonder if any 482 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: of this head to could do with kits saying I 483 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: don't know if it's wise to have my mom on 484 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: this show next week. It would be a big deal 485 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: for her to give up five days of quarantine income 486 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: on television. Uh, And unless I'm a sold out on this, 487 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: it's just not something I want to do, Like, it's 488 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: not something I want to put up. And then like 489 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: that would make sense, Like it does make sense. Yeah, 490 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I just wonder when I watched, I was like, you 491 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: know what, I wonder if she's just saying, like, hey, 492 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm not completely sold out that I'm the one and 493 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the one for me. And 494 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: so let's just call this good before the family comes in, 495 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: because my family um is known and that's going to 496 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: be a story in itself, and it's just not it's 497 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: not worth not worth doing right now with where we're 498 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: at in our relationship. Well, so Kit goes home. So 499 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: now at this point in this episode, we've had the 500 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: people from the first Row ceremony, Uh that we love, 501 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: and we have Abigail, who is a figure who got 502 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: the first impression rows and we have another popular figure 503 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: on the show, kit all going home. At this point, 504 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: when does it end? Well, it does end for a bit. 505 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: People stop going home until the very end. And in 506 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: between now and then we have just Sinya's one on one, 507 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: which is interesting to me. And I'll tell you this, 508 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know his connection with Justina was strong. Um. 509 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: In fact, I didn't think it was strong. And I'm 510 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm surprised, quite frankly that he didn't keep Abigail around, 511 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: uh and not have her on the group date, but 512 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: have her on that one on one, just to really 513 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: get that time with her, to really get to know 514 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: her a little bit. Right. I think as a fandom 515 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: we would have felt a little bit more completed if 516 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: Abigail was the one who got the one on one, 517 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: because at least we'll be able to like, say, all right, 518 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: she had her time. They did not have it, um, 519 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: But now we know, and it just feels more like 520 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: a conclusion for us. With just Na, I mean, it 521 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: seems like a good nice girl. We we liked her. 522 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: In that argument with m J doesn't exactly pull on 523 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: our heart strings. I think as much as Abigail, we 524 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: feel a little bit less invested in her. And to me, 525 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: it was an even more obvious, oh, she's gonna get 526 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: eliminated at the end of this date type situation. I mean, 527 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: it's everybody's going home on this episode. It's wild, like 528 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: you have a rose ceremony, you have Abigel going home, 529 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you have kid going home, and then you have a 530 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: one on one date and she goes home. Yeah. Um, 531 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was a surprise that just 532 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: send you went home to anyone at the end of 533 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: this date, because I mean she said she was blindsided. 534 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how she was blindsided. Um. I mean 535 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: it was written all over his face and we just 536 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, as I know, it's different, you don't see 537 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: it as clearly as the audience does when you're there. 538 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: But with the other girls that he had left, like 539 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: you just knew Michelle was going to get a spot. 540 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: And at that point we had Rachel with a rose, 541 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: we had Um, we had Serena with a rose, and 542 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: so then we had two roses left, and it just 543 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: was so obvious that it wasn't going to be going 544 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: to just yeah. So um, just and he goes home. 545 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: We have the final rose ceremony and is actually just 546 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: mentioned um Serena p Rachel who had roses going into 547 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: the rose ceremony. Brie and Michelle get a rose. Piper 548 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: is then sent home at that rose ceremony. Uh. Matt 549 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: is pretty upset about it. She feels, um, pretty tough. 550 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is this is a hard breakup, I'm 551 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: sure for them both. But now we move into hometowns 552 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: and uh, and so we're gonna see these stories and 553 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Ashley to kind of go into uh them what do 554 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: they call it when the show ends and before the 555 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: next show, like scenes to the next episode. Yeah, it 556 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: scenes from next episode. When we watched the scenes from 557 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: the next episode, it feels like to me, the tone 558 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: that they're setting as for the viewers is some of 559 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: these girls have a lot of questions if they're ready 560 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: for this or not. Like these girls families are pretty 561 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: much saying like, I don't see this working because I 562 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: don't see you there yet. Like in terms of love. Yeah, 563 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: I feel like they always kind of like tee it 564 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: up like that that there's so much doubt we'll see 565 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: you next week. Um, these girls, you know, are on 566 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: the younger side, so I would see like the families 567 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: maybe being like are you sure? Are you sure? Um? 568 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: But you know what I was thinking earlier, super crazy 569 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: going into hometowns with Tatia season. First off, you like 570 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: cut off the first four weeks, right, because those were 571 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: Claires four weeks where we really didn't get to know 572 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: anything about Ivan, zach Um, Brendan, and Ben, Like we 573 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: didn't get to know anything about them in those four weeks. 574 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: But going into hometowns, I felt like we knew them 575 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: very well and we're very excited to see where they 576 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: came from. And I just I don't feel the same way. 577 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: These girls are lovely, they are seriously like I like 578 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: them a lot. I don't think it's good thing for 579 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: It's not on them. It's about the way these storyless 580 00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: storyline has evolved. Well, so prime example here Ashley, we're 581 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: fans of Michelle and it's the bloopers where all of 582 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: a sudden we see this side of Michelle that we 583 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: haven't really been able to see because it has been shown. 584 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: But it's like, this is terrific, Like the stuff that 585 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: she's doing is hilarious. Can we please show this stuff? 586 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: So that we know this side of Michelle and not 587 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: just in the bloopers on the episode, so we can 588 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: start to go that's relatable, Like I remember doing thirty 589 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: push ups before my date so that I would look 590 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: a little bit better on Well, I get it, I've 591 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: seen it. I like it. I'm I'm encouraged by it 592 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: because I don't feel so weird by doing it. But 593 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: we haven't seen it until now, and that's that's a 594 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: little bit frustrating. We've said it every week though, Okay, 595 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Ashley again next week's Hometowns, but we have to talk 596 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: about this week's episode and we have to rate it. So, uh, 597 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: you're rating of this week's episode A to F I 598 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: would say it was about an eight and a half. 599 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: I so that, Yes, I liked it. I actually I 600 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: felt myself engaged in it, not distracted at all. It 601 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: was much different than I felt the past weeks. I 602 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: think it was because there was such less amount of drama. 603 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: The only drama we had really what's upfront with Heather. 604 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: We I think we've got good conversations here. Yeah, I 605 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: think it progressed us. I still think there was frustrations. 606 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a seven. H point seven, just 607 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: because yeah, I think it was an increase in episode. 608 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I think it was fine, which is a C plus. 609 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: It's just, uh, yeah, it just missed the mark a 610 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: little bit again for me, because of these storylines and 611 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: because of the exits and the lack of information around 612 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: these exits, I feel like we're just kind of like 613 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: missing the mark when it comes to the story. Well, actually, uh, 614 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: that's this week's episode. We'll be back next week, uh 615 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: for another breakdown of the episode. It's gonna be hometowns. Uh. 616 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: We have Bachelor headlines to talk about, but before we do, 617 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: let's take a break and get a glass of water, 618 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: and we'll be back with the Almost Famous podcast as promised. 619 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: As usual, we do have Bachelor headlines. The first headline 620 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: is one that I don't know. I have a feeling. 621 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: Actually year they expert on this stuff, but I just 622 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: read it. I'm like, there's gotta be more to the story. Well, anyways, 623 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison says Bachelor producers said no to Heather Martin returning, 624 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: but she in quotes kept fighting. This according to US Weekly. 625 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: So this is super interesting because I would because this 626 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: explains why she came in so late. I mean, maybe 627 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: they just like gave in to her, and they were like, fine, 628 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: we'll give in to her now, even though we know 629 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: there's no chance. So Chris Harrison says this quote to 630 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: be honest, I found out later because the producers didn't 631 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: tell me she was coming. Hannah Bee had concocted this 632 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: story and was helping produce this thing from the side, 633 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: he says. He said that she thought that how there 634 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: would be a good match for Matt, but when they 635 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: reached out, production said no. However, she kept fighting for this. 636 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: She said, I want to come out there. One of 637 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: the executive producers said, Heather, do not come to Nemicolon. 638 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: You're not going to be on the show. He said, 639 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: do not show up on our doorstep. And she did 640 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: and she got a call. We got a call and 641 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: said Heather's here, and I walked out to the gate. 642 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: That's actually mind blowing because that is absolutely the opposite 643 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: of what we thought. Yeah, last week we were talking 644 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: about how like silly was that they were kind of 645 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: playing that scenario as if she just showed up out 646 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: of thin air in a minivan and all that. But 647 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: she does say in this episode, She's like, I flew 648 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: myself out here and maybe it's true. I don't know. 649 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: That's wild if you you think about that, that is 650 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: crazy crazy for like crazy though, that's just like a 651 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: wild scenario that she would that she would take that risk. 652 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: That's just like that. That's a huge risk. Also to 653 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: go to Ni mccollon, uh to find out where it's 654 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: at to pull up to the gate. I mean, you 655 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: got to think if this all is just like how 656 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: we saw it, that poor security guard is like, I 657 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to do here. You're asking 658 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: for Chris Harrison. You're in address like this is this 659 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: is too much for me. I don't get paid enough 660 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: to handle this. Well. Interesting to say the least, Chris 661 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: Harrison is in the headlines. Again, this is according to people. 662 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, there was a rumor, I don't know a 663 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: week or two ago that Katie Thurston had been casted 664 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: as the next Bachelorette. Yet Chris Harrison says and people 665 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: that the debate is still going. Yeah, so they haven't 666 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: really picked the bachelor ate yet. I guess it was 667 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: not announced at Women Tell All, so it was rumored. 668 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: Katie even responded to those rumors last week, saying like, 669 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: that's news to her that she's the bachelorette, Harrison said, 670 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: quote in the same interview with Rachel. But what was 671 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: before the race conversation? He said, I promise you this, 672 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: if we named her the next bachelorette, I was not there. 673 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: We did not name her or anybody the next bachelorette 674 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: during the Women Tell All special. In fact, we didn't 675 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: even talk about who the next Bachelorette would be unless 676 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: they started taping in the middle of the night after 677 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: I left. So, as far as I know, nobody has 678 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: been named the bachelorette, and I promise you this, it 679 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: will not be part of the tell all special. He said. 680 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: There is a large debate as to who could be 681 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: the next female lead. Uh, well, we'll have to wait 682 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: and see. You know, I have a couple that I 683 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: would love to see, but we'll wait. We'll fall along. 684 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: This is an interesting story. I think it gives a glimpse, 685 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: a real life glimpse. Uh And it's it's nice that 686 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: they were vulnerable about it. Into couples coming off the show, 687 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: Jojoe Fletcher and Jordan Rodgers admit they initially stayed together 688 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: to please Bachelor Nation. This according to US Weekly. Okay, yeah, 689 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: so this is a quote from Jojo. She said, I 690 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: think that was one of the reasons we stayed together. 691 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: In the beginning. There were so many reasons why we 692 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: thought we should not be together. I think subconsciously for 693 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: me and for him, there was this pressure not only 694 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: for people that watched the show, but from our friends 695 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: and family. She said that the two some of course, 696 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: doesn't feel the weight of those expectations anymore. She says, 697 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: obviously we're far past that, but I think in the beginning, 698 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: there is that sense of pressure. Yeah. Well, Uh, it's 699 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: good to see them happy. I almost think that if 700 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: you went back in their timeline, you can kind of 701 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: see where maybe they maybe the best way to say 702 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: is like they started to fall in love again or 703 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: they started to fall on love outside the show, because 704 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: you can see this kind of like renewal on their 705 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: social media's and in their life of doing things together 706 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: and their discussions, you know, their engagement, their second engagement. Yeah, 707 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: so it's great for them. Uh. To final headlines. Uh, 708 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: this one comes from the very first Bachelor of all 709 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: time and according to US Weekly, Trista Cutter Bachelor, and 710 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: this is her quote. Bachelor contestants need to accept producers 711 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: can use anything against you. So she says on the 712 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: Right Reasons podcast this week that they're producing a television show. 713 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: You you just have to accept that. She said that 714 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: once she got into a big, knockdown, drag out fight 715 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: with executive producer creator Mike Flice, and she said that 716 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: he texted her that week and said, we have a 717 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: great relationship, but we're producing a TV show. The producers 718 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: are producing a TV show, so they need to have 719 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: certain things put in place, and they need to be 720 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: able to edit. They need to be able to create 721 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: a different storyline in order to have people be engaged 722 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: in it. She said, there's no reason that the show 723 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: would still be on the air if the producers weren't 724 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: involved in that way. You know what I mean? Well, 725 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: Trista has always been fairly outspoken in fact. Uh I 726 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: really believe this, Ashley. Um. I wonder here in the 727 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: next kind of season of The Bachelor and what they 728 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: decide to do and how they move forward with everything. 729 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if the drama now will decrease. Do you 730 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: believe that this show would change in in a in 731 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: a poor way if the drama decrease and they just 732 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: went back to increasing the love stories. I don't think so, 733 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: because we had Tastias season as an example of that. 734 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: There you go. People loved it. The ratings, I think 735 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: we're really high. If you just look at her Instagram followers. 736 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: She was a beloved bachelorette and I just feel like 737 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: that was the most drama free season there ever has been. 738 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: Once we got past Claren dale Sea storyline, that's right. Well, 739 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: good point. Hey. The final story of this week is 740 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: one that's based in love, one that we celebrate the 741 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: Bachelor alum, Leslie Murphy Welcome's daughter, Nora Blanche filled with 742 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: pure wonder and awe. Leslie says this. According to People, 743 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: she was born on February twelve. Um, she's happy, healthy, beautiful. 744 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: Um and Leslie calls her daughter a pure wonder and 745 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: it's an ought to be in her presence. She said, 746 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the love and prayers. She 747 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: and her dad are doing just amazing. Um just needs 748 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: some rest. Well, Uh, everybody, that's the Bachelor headlines of 749 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: this week. Uh now Ashley once again, Uh, there was 750 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: another podcast this week that we find uh that we 751 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: did that we think, uh, our listeners should listen to. 752 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: They should take the time, they should sit in it, 753 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: process it, uh and then go out in their communities 754 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: and and learn, um be be educated to educate themselves 755 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: and also to make a difference amongst those they come 756 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: in contact with so that uh, this old can be 757 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: a better place again. That is an interview, and in 758 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: big credit to Davon Franklin for coming on and taking 759 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: up the time that he did do that. Well, Hey, 760 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: that's all the headlines this week. That's our podcast. We'll 761 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: be back next week. Uh with that, I've been Been, 762 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: I've Been Ashley Bye. Guys. Followed the Benn and Ashley 763 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever 764 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.