1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal call for me. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: well I want to be happy. You want to be 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: happy for a day? Edith state? Is that? 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Whoo? 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Whoom and Dan and tie? All right, Dan, we call 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: these home and homes in our universe. We're not referring 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: to a college football matchup. We're referring to a visit 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: from a fellow college football podcaster. In some cases on 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: this show we have had non college football podcasters. But 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: on today's episode, and I guess you know the version 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: of it all that we prefer is somebody who knows 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: college football. We have a first time guest stopping by 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: here in the soliverbal Do we not we? Do? 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: You see the title of the episode. We're having Josh 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Payt on from the Josh Payton College Football Show. You've 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: seen them various platforms and outlets, and he obviously has 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: done a tremendous job building out his show, and so 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: pump to have him on and talk. Are we doing takes? 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 4: Ty? 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Is that the flow of this episode? 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: We are doing takes. We are bringing take a toa 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah out of its dormant state. Take a toa has 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: been in my backdrop for about a year and a half, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: just chilling out, not erupting, not making a peep, just 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: hanging out in the backdrop waiting for an episode like this. 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: The very first one we did was with our fran 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: Andy Staples from on three. We also threw in some 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: takes from the Overballer hood as well as ones that 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: we had, and the idea is it's a volcano, take 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: a toa. We're throwing all of our hot takes into 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: the volcano. Correct, very simple, not much more to it 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: than that. We thought with Josh coming on, this would 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: be a great time to bring it out of retirement. 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: You'll see it here behind me. In a moment, I'm 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: going to try to get it up and running. I 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: have a fan in here now, so hopefully I don't 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: inhale whatever vapors come out of it. I'm excited for 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: this episode. You've got takes, I've got takes. We told 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Josh to bring some as well. I did reach out 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: to our friends out at for ballers dot com or 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Patreon v E R B A L L e r 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: s dot com. That's where you can go if you 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: want to support what Dan and I do. Five dollars, 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: ten dollars. We have tiers for you if you're interested 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: in that. You can also sign up for free. On occasion, 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: we'll throw some stuff out to those folks as well. 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: That said, forballers dot Com, if that is not your 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: cup of tea, that's fine. Hit follow hit subscribes that 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: you don't miss any of these episodes. We still have 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: much to do in the way of previewing the college 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: football season, not just the SEC but Notre Dame and 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: you con and you and I got to make predictions 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: at some point, even though we don't know if we 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: always enjoy doing it, but it is part of the 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: job here. When we're doing a college football show, we 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: will get into all of that and much much more 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: a little bit down the line. 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: Yea. 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: By the way, if it's not your cup of tea, 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: make it your cup of tea. Look Tie, even if 62 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: you don't like me, support Tie and what he does. 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: He is grinding NonStop for this show. Make it your 64 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: cup of tverballers dot Com continue. 65 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, So, as you know, every year we 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: like to do some home and homes. Introduce you to 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: other friends in the podcasting world in college football because 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: of schedules. This is the first year in a while 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: we won't have Dan Carlin for this m. 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: M A legend. 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: So any questions that I know you've had built up 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: on Alexander the Great, You're gonna have to defer those 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: over to our guest of honor today. You know his 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: name is Josh Pate. Welcome to the solid Verbo, My friend. 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: How are you? 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: I feel so inadequately prepared all of a sudden, How 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: are you guys? 78 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: How are we doing? We're great, We're doing well. We're 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: doing well. So this is gonna be a fun episode. 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I will explain the backdrop here momentarily for people who 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: are new to the show. But congratulations to you. I 82 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: understand you are newly married. 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: I am. I appreciate it. 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: And by the way, we're doing the home and home 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: not in Germany, but we are actually doing it on 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: each other's home fields. I just I don't want to 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: sidetrack us, but given recent events, I did want to 89 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: point that out. 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 91 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: No, I were thinking Mexico City, we were thinking maybe Stad, 92 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: maybe Osaka, but I feel like this is probably the 93 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: most even handed way to do it. 94 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll grow the game either way. 95 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: That's true. 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: So I guess just as a means of introduction for 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: anybody on our side that doesn't know who Josh Pate is, 98 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: can you give me? Yeah, you should, but can you 99 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: give me like the fifteen second twenty second elevator pitch 100 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: so you can introduce yourself to the verballer hood. 101 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go. I took ten years to graduate college. 102 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: We're construction and heating in ac a lot. I decided 103 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: I didn't like that and wanted to talk about college 104 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: football year round and found a way to make people 105 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: listen to me do it somehow, someway that's my bio. 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: Wow. 107 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so what were you best at on the construction 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: site though? 109 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: So I prefer the fabric warehouse model. Okay, I just construction. 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: I just sheet rocking. And by the way, woo hawkers 111 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: exist on their own planet. The three of us pale 112 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: in like comparative conversation to what you would hear on 113 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 3: the sheet rocking side. It'd be seventy percent bleeped. But 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: it's just fascinating. So but you know, you go unload 115 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: the Southeastern Freight truck in the morning, not a sponsor 116 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: but could be, and then you just haul those those 117 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: rolls of fabric around and then over the span of time, 118 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: you realize that your spine is miss aligned because you've 119 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: been hauling the rolls of fabric on the same shoulder, 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: and so you walk around like this and it's no 121 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: way to live. 122 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: But that's what I mean of pat. 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you mentioned heating and cooling. Josh, is there 124 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: anything you could do to fix your current situation given 125 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: your skill set? 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 127 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: If you're listening on pod, Thank you so much. I 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: would actually prefer people not be watching right now. It 129 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: is Nashville, Tennessee. It is going to be ninety seven today. 130 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: AC has decided to go out and as I told you, guys, 131 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about this so much. But 132 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: someone in the follically disadvantaged position that I am has 133 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: a what we call a shine a glisten issue, and 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 3: it's it's really rearing its very ugly head this morning. 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: But he doesn't look as bad as it feels. If 136 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: you're watching this on YouTube, it looks fine. 137 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: Camp's open this week. Guys are sweating in one hundred 138 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: and ten degrees all over the South. And my complaint 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: is it's it's pushing seventy seven degrees in this apartment 140 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: right now, that's funny. 141 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. Man. 142 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 2: All right, so we're gonna we're gonna sweat the takes 143 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: out of you. 144 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: I like, well this I was gonna say, this is 145 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: actually Josh Camp prepared for the assignment. Yes, because here's 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do today. For those watching on YouTube, 147 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: you might be wondering, is that a model volcano behind Ty? 148 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Good question? The answer is yes. This here is take 149 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: a toe up. He is a prominent, albeit infrequent guest 150 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: on this show. I chose to build him in my 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: dining room last year, Josh, which like new marriage tip, 152 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: don't try that. 153 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: No. 154 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I put it all on the line to build this thing. 155 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: It does work. Like many of the great volcanoes, it 156 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: has been lying dormant for the better part of the 157 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: last year, if not a little. 158 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: Dormant, is not extinct, as Pierce Brosnan taught us. 159 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely correct. So he's just sort of been lurking in 160 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: the background here since it erupted for a few episodes 161 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: last season. The premise is very simple. We feed take 162 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: a toa where's this at. 163 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: Feeds? 164 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: We feed take a toa with our molten hot college 165 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: football takes. As I said, it is functional. I do 166 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: have this controller here. Hopefully the compound coming out of 167 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: it won't kill me. I have a fan this time, Dan, 168 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I came a little bit more prepared. 169 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: It's it's very admirable, Tie, And now I immediately regret 170 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: not calling the entire volcano operation Dan, Tie's inferno. But 171 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: you know what that's it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Okay, 172 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 2: I appreciate the remote though. Okay, Ty take it away. 173 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Here is what we told Josh to come armed with 174 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: a handful of hot takes for the upcoming college football season. 175 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: I've got some, You've got some. I reached out to 176 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: our Patreon for ballerhood at for ballers dot com to 177 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: get some of theirs as well. There is one on 178 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: here that I don't want to tip off too much. 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Might be the best one I've heard in several years. 180 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: And it's sort of a ricochet shot at another program 181 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: as well, which is incredible. So I will get to that, 182 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: not to bury the lead. 183 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Another college football podcast or just another show like did 184 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: they take a stab at Home Improvement? What did they do? 185 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: No? 186 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: No, No, Another college football program oh okay, okay, it 187 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: was sort of a two for one special. So Josh, 188 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: just to give you a heads up for some of 189 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: the ones that we've had in here in the past 190 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: that you need to live up to. Andy Staples was 191 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: on last year. He said that Tyler Schuck was going 192 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: to be the new Michael Pennock junior. I had that 193 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe would not finish the regular season as Alabama 194 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: starting courter. Oh wow, Dan have I mean he won't 195 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: be this year obviously, but Dan had USC missing a bowl, 196 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: and someone on our Patreon had Charles chip Kelly as 197 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State's interim coach, and like the Relaquest Bowl, which 198 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: did not have we've gotten some of the best ones 199 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: from out on Patreon. So with that being said, mister 200 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Pate being so you're the guest of honor, why don't 201 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: you go first? 202 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: Here comes. 203 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,239 Speaker 3: I've got lava flavored water and lava colored water, just caffeine, 204 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: but it fits the theme here. Okay, first up, no 205 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 3: apologies to Pitt whatsoever. I've got Georgia Tech playing for 206 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: the ACC Championship. This show could not possibly be higher 207 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: on this team. I'm I say it as a take 208 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: a toa caliber prediction, not thinking myself, it is a 209 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: take a toa caliber prediction. 210 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: Those are the best kind, aren't they. 211 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel comfortable in this position. But I know 212 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: a lot of people are going to go, he's clickbaiting. 213 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: What do I want you to click on? I don't know, 214 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: but he's clickbaiting. So here's the thing, many things. Actually, 215 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: I watched this team last year. I think Dan said 216 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: this the other day. If they did nothing else other 217 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: than beat Georgia in the nineteen overtime game last year, 218 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: hardly anyone would think this is bold this year. But 219 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: because they didn't finish on the plus side of a 220 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: crapshoot coin flip fest at the end of regulation, people 221 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: still think they're a dark horse. They're not a dark horse. 222 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: They are very, very proven at quarterback. But also, you 223 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: got to watch Georgia Tech like three minutes to understand 224 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: the full identity of that team. And this is an 225 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: acc that is very much in a state of flux 226 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 3: beyond Clemson. And I would also look and I would say, well, 227 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: what are their two toughest home games or two toughest 228 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: games period? Clemson comes there, Georgia comes there. Outside of 229 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: that not that point spreads are the end all be all, 230 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: but for broad strokes purposes, we could make an argument 231 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: they'll be favored in every game. I fully believe in 232 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: the identity of the team, and I also fully believe 233 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: that last year, like when they beat Miami, and I 234 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: think that was just some fluke. And I also think 235 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 3: that there are a lot of guys I call them 236 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: hateful three stars. Georgia Tech is a program built with 237 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: a nucleus of hateful three Stars. No one's accidentally playing 238 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: for Georgia Tech, like everyone is very purposefully there. I 239 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: believe in the mission, and I also, as we're recording, 240 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: I think it's very notable that they just extended Buster 241 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: Faultner and made him the first seven figure coordinator there. 242 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: Guys he was at Georgia totally comfortable elevating would have 243 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: gotten big jobs at many plays. He rolled the dice 244 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: career wise and went with Brent Key, and it's paid off. 245 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: I could not be higher on that team this year. 246 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me if they won the ACC but 247 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: I thought just having them play for the title was 248 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: enough for what we needed today. 249 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: I fully agree. You know, I'm high on Georgia Tech. 250 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: And there is something about the more I see Brent 251 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: Key that I think I think he just eate sawdust 252 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: for breakfast, and I kind of love it. I kind 253 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: of love everything that he says, and that if you're 254 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: gonna fill your roster with hateful three stars, he feels 255 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: like the ultimate Hateful three star captain. So I'm with you. 256 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: I don't think. 257 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: I don't even think that it is a simmering. 258 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: It is warm. 259 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: It is like when you get your coffee or tea 260 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: to the exact temperature you like. It's not scalding hot 261 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: because they were good last year and they'd be a 262 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: very good Miami team. But I think it's there's a 263 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: good amount of heat to that. 264 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the part that makes it fun 265 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: just following Georgia Tech from Afar And I know I 266 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: said on our ACC preview and we had some people 267 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: respond to it. If you're not into Joe, like maybe 268 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: if you're a Georgia fan or if you're rooting for 269 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: another school in the ACC, I get it. But if 270 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: you're pretty much anybody else and you're not at least 271 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: a little bit interested or care a little bit about 272 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, you're kind of doing it wrong because Georgia 273 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Tech is the way you live if you're watching from 274 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: the acc from afar, it should be a team that's 275 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: fun as hell. As you said, Josh, as you said Dan, 276 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: they have sort of assumed this identity of brank Key, 277 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: and you know, now a couple of years into this, 278 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: it should be interesting to see how it shakes out. 279 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: There's certainly one of the teams anyway that we called 280 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: out as at least having a shot at this thing, 281 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: because as he said, it's outside of Clemson kind of 282 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder. 283 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: Can I just we were at SEC Media Days the 284 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: other day, which was in Atlanta. I was looking for 285 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: every excuse to get away early. So I hit Georgia 286 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 3: Tech up and said can I come hide over there 287 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: for the day and they said, yeah, come on, So 288 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: I go over there. There's a lot of construction, so 289 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: they have all of the coaching staff parking in this 290 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: auxiliary garage except one member of the staff whose truck 291 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: is jacked up too high to fit in the parking garage. 292 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: And I don't want to tell you which member of 293 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: the staff it is that just randomly pulls up to 294 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: the stadium and no parking lot whatsoever. But given the 295 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: context clues here, I think you can guess who it is. 296 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: So yes, identity, identity, identity, love it with it, love. 297 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: It all right, Dan, your turn? Go ahead? 298 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Steeds. 299 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: This is also simmering. I don't think it's molten hot. 300 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: But I think we're going to see a crazy number 301 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: of retirements after the season. Oh and especially if they 302 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: have graying temples, like Tyler hilden Brands. I think there 303 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: are going to be a number of coaches after this 304 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: season specifically that are going to get that are just 305 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: going to break. I think guys like take your pick, 306 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: Kirk Farens, Kyle Whittingham across the sports. I mean, Mike 307 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: Norvell technically has gray hair, but I don't think that's 308 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: his decision necessarily. There are just going to be a 309 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: number of guys who either decide that like you know what, 310 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to recruit my roster every hour, or 311 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to guess to see where this program 312 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: will be in three years, Like conference wise, I don't 313 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: want to try and pitch my conference for the college 314 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: football playoff in August. Like I think there are so 315 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: many extra carelars here at play that we are going 316 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: to see like six seven retirements come November, December, January. 317 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that because I did put a 318 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: call out on Patreon to get some takes equally as 319 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: hot and Aaron wrote in to say that this will 320 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: be the last year for all three of the longest 321 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: tenured coaches at the FBS level in Kyle Whittingham, Mike Gundy, 322 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: and Kirk. 323 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: Ference right exactly, and like the Gundhy thing has already 324 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: been sort of spelled out, so we kind of have 325 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: an idea that, you know, this is probably the last 326 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: sort of runway as everything was sort of put in 327 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: detail after last season and so barring a complete turnaround 328 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: with a complete new roster, but yeah, I think we're 329 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: going to see like we haven't seen the coaching turnover 330 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: in the way that we were used to because I 331 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: think a lot of money has been going to collectives 332 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: into rosters rather than buyouts. But I think we are 333 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: going to see some shifts this year. And there's you know, 334 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: in the sec right, Brian Kelly goes eight and four, right, 335 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: that might not be his decision, but I think we're 336 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: going to see much more turnover than we have the 337 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: past couple of years, in large part because of guys 338 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: hitting walls. In a matter of speaking. 339 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: I came very close to this being a prediction. The 340 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: way I was going to phrase it was it was 341 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: not so much leaning towards maybe the seasoned citizens of 342 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: the coaching profession. I was going to look and say, 343 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: I think two of what would universally be considered the 344 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: top ten coaches in the country will just voluntarily throw 345 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: up the deuces. I've gotten a feeling for a while 346 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: there were many guys at the peak, like the pinnacle 347 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: of their careers, that are completely fed up with the landscape. 348 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: But what they've been doing, every one of them, to 349 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: a man, will tell you this. Behind the scenes, what 350 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: they've been doing is they've been trying to hold out 351 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: until and then you fill in the blank, like the 352 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: house settlement or whatever. Well, if they look and they 353 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: see the current situation is no different than what it 354 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: had been, and they don't see any hope on the 355 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: horizon for things returning to whatever normalcy is for them. 356 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: Money in this sport is insane at the head coaching 357 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: salary level. So you've got guys who are in their 358 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: mid forties whose children's children are set for life, so 359 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: it's not like you're planning on coaching until you're seventy anyway. Also, 360 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: they just watched one of their elder statesman, Nick Saban, 361 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: retire and get a raise to go into football or 362 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: to go into TV. 363 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: Yep. 364 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: So there's this whole new world out there. I call 365 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 3: it the Mullen career path, where you could retire at 366 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 3: age forty seven, even if you intend to get back in. 367 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: You retire, you go keep a seat warm on a 368 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: desk somewhere on Saturdays, and you can stay away from 369 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: the game indefinitely. And if you leave when your stock's high, 370 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: you give me. Like John Gruden, everyone asks every year 371 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: when's he coming back? When's he coming back? And your 372 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: stock goes up and up and up because everyone sounds 373 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: like a genius. 374 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: On TV. 375 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: By the way, there's no like, there's no bad decision 376 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: on TV on air. And so I not only do 377 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: I think you're right, I think it may be more 378 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: than just a Kirk Farrence or a Kyle Whittingham. I 379 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: think we could get one or two bombshells in December 380 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: of January. 381 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: I think if you wanted to really dig into this 382 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: in a creepy way, which now I'm singing ties tune here, 383 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: where's this said? 384 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Steeds. 385 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: Take a look at coaches with high school aged kids 386 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: who are burnt out potentially on coaching and maybe would 387 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: prefer to see their kids play in volleyball games or 388 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: football games or basketball games more than they would, you know, 389 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: traveling once again to see recruits instead of traveling with 390 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: their family. The one name that immediately comes to mind, 391 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: and I've said this on the show, I don't think 392 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: Kirby Smart's coaching for the next seven years at Athens. 393 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: I really, I really think, and I know his kids 394 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: are of that age or his last kid is of 395 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: that age. I think this is I did not do 396 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: the research looking at his kids, but I'm almost positive 397 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: that's right around the age. And that could be a 398 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: name to me. And if you read John Talty and 399 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Armin Katayan's book he came very close to stepping down 400 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: amid all the portal craziness of like three years ago, 401 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: that would be a name still to this day. I 402 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: don't know if it's this year, I don't know if 403 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: it's next year. I just don't think he's a like 404 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: lifer guy well. 405 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: That'd be good. Then he leaves and they could poach 406 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning for away from your Oregon Ducks. 407 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great. That'd be a wonderful spring of events. 408 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: Tie that's the name that I jotted down. And again 409 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: it's not that smoldering a take, but kind of in 410 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: the same vein Mark stoops at Kentucky. Oh well, again, 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: this is not exactly like breaking news here, but it 412 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: just seems like he has gotten progressively grumpier. They have 413 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: one of the ten hardest schedules this year. 414 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean, who among us, ty. 415 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: No, I get it. One of the ten hardest schedules 416 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: this year. And I believe they're starting Zach Calzada at 417 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: least that seems to be the plan, which I sure 418 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about that. I don't know 419 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: where they get to buy out money, but it seems 420 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: like that's a situation that's deteriorated quit pretty quickly, excuse me, 421 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: And they're over under is only like four and a 422 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: half this season, so nobody's really expecting a whole lot there, 423 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: And that just kind of feels like it's been in 424 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: the works for a while. 425 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: You know, think about the chapter of the history book 426 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: that's missing. The Mark Stoops goes to Texas A and 427 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: M chapter exactly to be written and got ripped out 428 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: by the locals down there. Credit to the locals, I 429 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: mean for the uprising down there, like Aggie's rebellion. Also, 430 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: they've got critical members of their infrastructure jumping ship, but 431 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: staying in state to go to Louisville never a good sign. 432 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: That's the blinking red light. 433 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: All right, let me where's my button? Out here? Here? 434 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: I'll go. 435 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: I'll give you one. Here comes the marvel. 436 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: I think my controller might have died here, so I'm 437 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: not even sure this thing's going on anymore, which is 438 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: probably good, So don't get black lung. But alas, I 439 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: have LSUS this year's BAMA, and by that I mean 440 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: a really good SEC team that gets left out of 441 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: the playoff at something like nine to three. 442 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 2: Okay. 443 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, if you pay attention to this 444 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing, you understand, given the schedule, given just 445 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: the lay of the land in the SEC, this is 446 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: very possible. It's very possible for a lot of the 447 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: teams that we're gonna preview in the SEC. But LSU 448 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: in particular, I think is interesting because in many regards, 449 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: this feels like kind of a make or break year 450 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: for Brian Kelly. They loaded up, they went all in 451 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: on the portal, but they've got a brutal schedule. They're 452 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: rebuilding to some extent along the line of course, well 453 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Campbell goes like fourth overall to the Patriots. You've got 454 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: a high level quarter Oh, it is on. I can 455 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: smell it. You've got a high level quarterback in Garrett. 456 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna clip that exactly. It's on. I can smell it. 457 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, when it starts getting a little 458 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: thicker in here, Uh, Garrett n us Meyer obviously high 459 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: level NFL talent, but through twelve picks last year, so 460 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: a bit of that gunslinger mentality. I don't know if 461 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to get all the mistakes 462 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: out of him in one offseason. It just feels to 463 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: me like LSU is going to be that team at 464 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: the very end where we're trying to figure out who 465 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: are the top twelve, and everybody likes LSU because they 466 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: recognize how talented this team is. But given some of 467 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: the other participants and given the way this thing shakes out, 468 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: I could see them getting left out, and again the 469 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: conversation reignites itself about how many automatic qualifiers belong for 470 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: the SEC for the Big Ten, we do this whole 471 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: cycle all over again with the playoff arguments. 472 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, if you really want to tangle 473 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: that spider web, I think most of us would agree. 474 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: Florida plays one of, if not the toughest schedules in 475 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: the country this year. Yes, Florida goes to LSU. So 476 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: let's say you're right to walk it a step further 477 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: down the path of chaos. Let's say Florida goes to 478 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: LSU and loses a competitive game but finish nine and three. 479 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: I think the committee may put Florida in over LSU 480 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: with the same record and a head to head loss 481 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: because the strength of schedule leans Florida that significantly. 482 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah at Miami, another one on that schedule for Florida. 483 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's a brutal slate and absolutely brutal slate. 484 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: They close out with Florida State as they usually do. 485 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Who knows what we're gonna get from the knowles this year, 486 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: but yeah, that to me, there there's gonna be that 487 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: SEC team and I think we all know it where 488 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: they're just sort of on the cusp, and everybody recognizes 489 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: how talented they are, but because of numbers and because 490 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: of the way that they've set this thing up, they'll 491 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: be on the outside looking in. And again, it's good 492 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: for the content, I guess, but maybe not great if 493 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: you're a fan of those teams. 494 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: I like that. Your hot take was Brian Kelly, who 495 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: has almost exclusively gone nine and three, will go nine 496 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: and three. Brian Kelly nine and three, nine and three, 497 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: eight and four. All right, I think he's gonna go 498 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: nine to three. Okay, so he's like a premium A 499 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: and m BA very much. Yeah, I'll catch all right here, 500 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: I got to play this one. Now, where is it at? 501 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm growing war with your takes. 502 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Here's the one that I mentioned earlier. And this comes 503 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: to us via Patreon. Gentleman named Davis who's been a 504 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: longtime supporter, and the takes actually from his dad. 505 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: College football isn't what it used to be. 506 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no, this is this 507 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: is like next level. 508 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I like this. 509 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: He said he was in along. It was in the 510 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: car for a long time with his dad the other day, 511 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: and the take was that Lincoln Riley will be back 512 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma by this time next year. Oh yeah, bravo. 513 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean talk about a jabb at. You will see 514 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: a ricochet shot at Brent Vinnables. 515 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: Lebron went back to Cleveland. It's the perfect take. It's 516 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: Billard went back to Portland. 517 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: Oh do you remember how not only when that happened, 518 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: how shocking it was. Do you remember, like the socioeconomics 519 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: sparring and the debate, or a solid week of the 520 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: quality of life in La versus Norman. LA's a better 521 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: place to live. Can you imagine if those people got 522 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: to tip that bucket upside down? Oh? You greater than CALLI? 523 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: And then the entire country probably divides red and blue 524 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: as to which side of that conversation you're going to 525 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: fall into. And that's when it's most delicious, when we 526 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: get a healthy dose of politics having no business whatsoever, 527 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: bleeding their way into this and they do anyway, And 528 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley wants mistaken for a president in an address anyway, 529 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: could work his way into this equation in the most 530 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: sadistic way possible. I don't even know the guy's dad, 531 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: but I wish he were my dad. I respect so much. 532 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Wow, I have a Lincoln Riley adjacent take, but it's 533 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: not as hot as that. 534 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is okay, but what's yours? 535 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: Well, No, I was going to say, what are the 536 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: actual wheels that could be put into motion? 537 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: Right? 538 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: Like, if we're going to construct this in the way 539 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: that Josh was carrying fabric over his shoulder, if we 540 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: were going to lift this take into reality, Yeah, what 541 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: is the likeliest path that it takes? 542 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm not high on USC. I mean, 543 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: it's we're recording this before. I think a lot of 544 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: people heard the Big Ten Show. I don't know when 545 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: all the stuff's going to come out, but you know, 546 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty low on USC this year. And I guess 547 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: my kind of also adjacent take is that I don't 548 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: think USC is any better. I think they might get 549 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: better on defense, but I think the team as a 550 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: whole might actually be a little bit worse. So you 551 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: don't have to sell me on USC falling short of expectations. 552 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: What does that look like? It probably looks like some 553 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: sort of embarrassing loss in Big Ten play, probably an 554 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: eight and four record at best. It probably looks like 555 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: Oklahoma getting destroyed by its schedule, which again is speaking 556 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: of brutal schedules. Oklahoma's right there, So you're basically talking 557 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: this through on two different levels. USC and Oklahoma falling 558 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: will all short of expectations. 559 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: I think I know how it would play out. The 560 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: answer is the answer is it won't happen. Yes, But 561 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: if it were to happen, I don't think. Did he 562 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: say Riley's going to get fired or Riley just takes 563 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: the OU job. 564 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: He says Lincoln Riley will be back at Oklahoma by 565 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: this time next year. 566 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: That's what I need. Oh, he knows what he's doing. Yeah, 567 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: this is not this guy's first time around the hot 568 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: take Mary, go around. Here's what would have to happen. 569 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: USC has a great year, yes, but the dynamic behind 570 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: the scenes we start to hear, is that the general 571 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: manager is not answering to the head coach. He's answering 572 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: to the a D. And Lincoln Riley, even in a 573 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: great year, has been rubbed the wrong way by that. 574 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: And they come to an end pass and they won't 575 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: rework the language in the agreement and then he wants 576 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: out and Brent Venables has been a smoldering tire fire 577 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: all year in this scenario, and so you've got to 578 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: remember a new athletic director coming in at OU, You've 579 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: got a new general manager there. Maybe we find out 580 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: Jim Naggy's preferences Lincoln Riiley, the new AD's preferences Lincoln Riley. 581 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: I still don't know how you wipe the memory clean 582 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: of your entire constituency there, but that's the only way 583 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: that this could possibly happen. 584 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: I think that's true. I think there would have to 585 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: be maybe a quarterback recruit who really wants to go 586 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: to Oklahoma but is not confident in their offense and 587 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: grew up loving Baker Mayfield, which is really strange to say, 588 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: we're old. It has to be something in along lines 589 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: of recruiting not working out at USC behind the scenes, 590 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: and an amount of money that is comically large to 591 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: move away from USC back to Oklahoma given the baggage there. 592 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: It's hot. I can't fully construct it, but there's something there. 593 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: Now. Counterpoint, Yeah, given some of the ongoing strife about 594 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: USC maybe trying to worm its way out of the 595 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame series in order to perhaps benefit them in 596 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff, is Oklahoma's schedule a situation that 597 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley would want to step back into now that 598 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: they've moved to the SEC. 599 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: That's true. It's a good question. 600 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: The rumors are that that's the entire reason he left. Yeah, exactly, 601 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: denied by him, but those are rumors. Nonetheless, Man, I. 602 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Like that Davis's dad, whatever your name is, sir, I 603 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: was going to say, bravo. My hot take is going 604 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: to be that Lincoln Riley parks his super yacht the 605 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: SS buyout in the south of France rather than outside 606 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: of Majorca. But I guess that's open to interpretation of 607 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: what kind of personality you think Lincoln Riley has if 608 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: it does not work out at USC where he parks 609 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: that super yacht. 610 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: But where are they coming up with that kind of cabbage? 611 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, Man, Is there a healthy donor we 612 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: don't know about, because there are wealthy donors, but I 613 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: don't think they're super into USC football in the same 614 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: way that perhaps healthy donors are elsewhere. 615 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: Because hasn't that been the point of contention with respect 616 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: to a potential buyout for Lincoln Riley these last two years? 617 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: Now? 618 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it, and clearly USC people are aspiring 619 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: for more. But you got to find a lot of 620 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: money in order to get him out of there. 621 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: We'll see how the new Marvel movies do. Right, that's 622 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: sort of uh the connection, right if I didn't usc 623 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: got a big recruit and they impressed him by taking 624 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: him to Marvel Studios last year and sort of dressing 625 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: up some sort of digital image or something because it's, ah, god, 626 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: what I think jakeem Stewart thanos. They made a big 627 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: deal of that. So if the Marvel if what is 628 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: the new one right now? Fantastic form? If that's a 629 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: huge hit, Tye, you never know. It's like the the 630 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: Cody Campbell but with iron Man, it's great. 631 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: I am going to seamlessly weave my next prediction into 632 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: that this will be the transition of this show. All right, 633 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: hold on, see. 634 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Hold on, you're a guest of honor, Josh. You need 635 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: a proper introduction for these continue please. 636 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Tennessee notably made the playoff last year, right. Expectations notably 637 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: high in the SEC, including on Rocky Top. However, one 638 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: of the biggest stories of the spring was the Nico 639 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: Iamaliava stuff. I am a believer that not Fantastic four 640 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: but eight and four fantastic. Eight and four will be 641 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: Tennessee's record this year. And I say fantastic because they 642 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: will be the only team in the SEC with legit 643 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: a tier expectation, including one who made the playoff last year, 644 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: who will find a way to go eight and four. 645 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: But please the fan base, it's going to be a 646 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: very very weird dynamic. The country has kind of forgotten 647 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: how the Nico stuff happened. Tennessee folks have it so 648 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: Tennessee folks were really, really proud that Josh Hypel planted 649 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: the flag. Now the entire time, anyone who's of you know, 650 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: at the outside persuasion looks at that and says, good 651 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: for you, guys, but are you ready to have his 652 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: back if you start losing? This fall remains to be seen. 653 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: But knowing these people like I do, I reside in 654 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: this state, I think that they're going to fall off 655 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: a little bit. I think they're going to go eight 656 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: and four, but I think they'll be really scrappy competitive, 657 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 3: like not blowout losses. Just it's one of those four 658 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: losses by a combined nineteen points type of seasons, and 659 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 3: I think they'll look and they'll say, wait, we've got 660 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: the number one quarterback committed for next year. We got 661 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: a lot of young guys who got a lot of 662 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: really good experience this year. It suck to lose. We 663 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: don't like it, but a lot of places around here 664 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: they want to fire you if you went eight and four, 665 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: and sometimes in Tennessee world they want to do that. 666 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: I think this year Tennessee finds a way to be 667 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: a four lost team, and the fan base is really 668 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: strangely good with it and excited about it. 669 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: Come December, a. 670 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: Charming eight and four. 671 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. What I was going to say is I 672 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: was just looking over Tennessee because we've yet as we're 673 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: recording this, we've yet to record our full on SEC preview. 674 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: I think Tennessee is going to smoke Syracuse in Week one, 675 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: the neutral p Syche game in Atlanta. And to your point, Josh, 676 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: if you win in resounding fashion, a reasonably well publicized 677 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: non conference game the first week of the year, that 678 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: tends to build up a lot of goodwill. Yeah, and 679 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: so new quarterback coming in, like they make the trade, 680 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: they get Joey Agyar and you know, everybody I think 681 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: is going to roll with him. Now. I could see 682 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: them winning that game in resounding fashion, and even though 683 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: it gets harder from that point forward, there will be 684 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot of goodwill in the Tennessee universe. 685 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: I just look. I think that it's very underestimated nationally, 686 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: how proud those people were that their guy ended up 687 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: being the guy who just said no enough. Like they're 688 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: fully they're fully committed in Nico, They're all in on him, 689 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: and then it goes down the way it goes down, 690 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: and he's in the middle of his career there, like 691 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: they're looking to elevate from a two lost season and 692 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: a playoff run and he says no, knowing full well. 693 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if the fan base knows this. Internally, 694 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: they know full well they're going to take a step 695 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: back by doing that. This year, they got all defensive 696 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: line concerns, which they were going to have anyway. Frankly, 697 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: I thought they were going to take a step back 698 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: with Nico, So without him, they're really going to take 699 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: a step back. But they did all that, and then 700 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: five years from now, if he's still there and we're 701 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: doing this in August of like twenty thirty, I think 702 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: we'll look back and say, what a shrewd tactical move 703 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: that Hypel, knowing they may take a step back anyway, 704 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: bought himself a mountain of equity and goodwill by pulling 705 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: the move he did when he did, which gave him 706 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: perfect cover to go eight and four, only to know 707 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: that he was about to springboard into his next generation 708 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 3: quarterback coming in. And you can't see that right now 709 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 3: because it's just fog on the horizon. But I think 710 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 3: when we look back and the fog clears, I think 711 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: this will have been a very very shrewd tactical move 712 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: that the likes of which makes a PR firm very 713 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: very jealous because they didn't come up with it. 714 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: And Jim Haslam gets a rebate they gets finally, finally 715 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: he gets a little bit of money back for his 716 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: investment because their budget is not where they thought it 717 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: might have been going into the season. Okay, I like that. 718 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: This is good? All right, Dan, you're up pool? 719 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: All right? War takes why bird? 720 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: My controller has stopped working, which is probably good for 721 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: the lungs. You know it's back there. I've got a 722 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: light on it. We can dress it up in post 723 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: continue Dan, Please. 724 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: I think somebody who is positive that they're not going 725 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: to have quarterback issues is going to have a major 726 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: situation in mid to late October. So the best way 727 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: to issue this take would be to be specific, but 728 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be as specific as I should be. 729 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's going to be someone in 730 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: the grouping of like Dante More, someone in the grouping 731 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: of Arch Manning, Ty Simpson, Julian saying, somebody who's like, 732 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: we've got our guy for sure, CJ. 733 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: Carr. CJ Carr. 734 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is a season in which so many what 735 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: we perceive to be powers are heading into a year 736 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: where you're just like, oh, yeah, he's definitely the guy, 737 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: He's the next guy, and we are going to roll 738 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: and John Mattier at Oklahoma whoever, there are too many 739 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 2: teams with too many and Mattier has played significant time, 740 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: so that's maybe a little bit that would be more 741 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: shocking if John Mattier doesn't work out at Oklahoma given 742 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: the coordinator thing, given a healthier offense around him, it 743 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: should be a healthier offense for Oklahoma this year. But 744 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: I think there is going to be you know, Carson 745 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: Beck has the elbow thing, so I'm not going to 746 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: put him in the same category. But somebody is going 747 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: to be scrambling around Halloween that didn't think they would be. 748 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: How's that tie? 749 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: I hope it's not CJ. Car. I know you hope 750 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: it's not saying this, and it's like my ears start ringing. 751 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look it, and that's not even to account 752 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: for injuries, which clearly can throw right. 753 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: And we've got a lot of new offensive lines in 754 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: front of these guys. Oregon's got a new offensive line, 755 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 2: Texas has a new offensive line. I'm pretty sure both 756 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: of those offensive lines are going to work out. Notre 757 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: Dames should be good. You've got what a new quarterback 758 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: at ole Miss with new offensive linemen. 759 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: Like Georgia same. 760 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: There's a lot variable here going into the season, and 761 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't think it would be the worst ideas for 762 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: all of us to familiarize ourselves with the depth in 763 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 2: these rooms. 764 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: Not only do I agree with it, this will happen, 765 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: this will unequivocally happen. And that's why I've, like Mima 766 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 3: always said, write your predictions and pencil in August. This 767 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 3: is the most important year that I think we've ever 768 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: had in the history of college football. To not call 769 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 3: anyone's predictions stupid in August and also to write your 770 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: own predictions in the lightest of pencil. Yeah, I think 771 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: it was you who made the point the other day. 772 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: You were talking about how much portal churn there is 773 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 3: and how it's it's virtually impossible to know things definitively 774 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: about rosters, even just at the quarterback position, even with 775 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: the guys who aren't transfers this year, there's so much 776 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: uncertainty around them up to an including them. How could 777 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 3: you ever know? How did how how do their own 778 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: staffs even know definitively what they have? So yeah, I 779 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: agree it's gonna happen. 780 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 2: If you were a trouverballer, you would have said stabs. 781 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: But otherwise I fully agree, right, I fully agree. 782 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: Here's here's mine, here's mine. 783 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 4: Yes, Steeds. 784 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: Kind of on the topic of quarterbacks, Dan, you already 785 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: heard me say this, Mark Kronowski, Mark Ronowski, nothing gets 786 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: the blood pumping like talking a little FCS quarterback transfer 787 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: on this show, Mark Kronowski. I have him down as 788 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: the best Iowa quarterback since Brad Banks. Okay, all right, 789 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: I will reiterate this again for the crowd. I watched 790 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: hours upon hours of Mark Kronowski clips when I should 791 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: have been studying the Big Ten as a whole other 792 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: teams across college football. I think they can do a 793 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: lot of fun stuff with him. I was workshopping that 794 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: he's the Skylar Thompson of Will Howard's I don't know 795 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: if that works, but I think he's a solid dual 796 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: threat quarterback with upside who is not going to try 797 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: to run around you, but he will try to run 798 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: through you, which I like about him, and based on 799 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: the way that they used him at his previous stop, 800 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: I think given the offensive setup with Tim Lester, they 801 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: can incorporate some of that. It's a great effect. Now 802 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: who is he throwing to? Not talking about great question, 803 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: but alas Mark Ronowski is sort of like my pet 804 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: player this year, and if he hits at Iowa, and 805 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: if the defense is remotely where it's been, which I 806 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: think we just assume is fact at this point over 807 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: the last ten to fifteen years, I think Iowa has 808 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: a real chance to show real upside and surprise a 809 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: lot of people who may not have them on their 810 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: radar screen. 811 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 3: Dan, do you want to go first? 812 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: I think this is just ty wish casting. I don't 813 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: know if this is a take, he's just really hopeful 814 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: that an FCS quarterback works out for Iowa that hasn't 815 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: developed quarterbacks traditionally. Although they got better last year, I 816 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like this is another team with 817 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: the variable issue right that he has played I think 818 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 2: one game against power conference competition last year in Oklahoma 819 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: State at South Dakota State. Offensive line questions running backs 820 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: should be okay, and receiver questions. I just don't think 821 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: they are built around him for him to become a 822 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: folk hero yet yet, Well, how are they going to 823 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: bring in? Is Ryan Williams transferring to Iowa next week? 824 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: You want to talk about like Lincoln back to Norman 825 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,959 Speaker 3: or Ryan Williams to Iowa City. 826 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: Let's that's the move. Well, hold on, We've got that 827 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: Caden Proctor back and forth between Tuscaloosa and Iowa City. 828 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: So there's precedent, the Caden Proctor express. Baby. 829 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Iowa only loosely believes in the quarterback position. So 830 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: to paint this scenario is tough? Did you say? Because 831 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 3: I want to make sure when I steal this quote 832 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: and use it in my social circle, I have it correct. 833 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 3: The Skyler Thompson of Will Howard's. 834 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that is what I jotted down. 835 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So hold on, let's say if we unpack that, 836 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: you're saying that Skyler Thompson is of the Will Howard 837 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: like genus because they went to Kansas State together. 838 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 3: I don't. 839 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: I guess they were both like somewhat mobile, they were 840 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: folk heroes, and that they won big games. Will Howard 841 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: won the conference. 842 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: My thinking was that Skyler Thompson was like eighty five 843 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: percent of Will Howard. Okay, and obviously Will Howard won 844 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: a national championship with a much better team and was 845 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: very good down the stretch. So the best of Will Howard, 846 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: we know. The best of Will Howard is now playing 847 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL, so good quarterback. 848 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: And Skyler Thompson was a giant killer beat Oklahoma. Yeah, 849 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: and Skylar Thompson also now in the NFL. Is I 850 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: think a backup for the Dolphins or somebody. So, I mean, 851 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: these are guys that have gone on to the next level. 852 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: And I don't know if Gronowski is either of them, 853 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: but I look at his game, I see a little 854 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: bit of Will Howard. 855 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how they use them. 856 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: I think that it's well documented a lot of both 857 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: play by play and color. Guys and girls listen to 858 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: this show. So I think the real task is for 859 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 3: anyone who draws the Iowa broadcast assignment this year. Yes, 860 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 3: nip at any point that we could get just seamlessly 861 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: woven into the fabric of the broadcast that phrase, you know, 862 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 3: Gronowski kind of the Skylar Thompson of Will Howard out here. 863 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 3: If we could get that woven in, I don't care 864 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 3: what else happens today, this will have been a win. 865 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 2: Well, we have Jason Bennetti in our pocket, and so 866 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: he's Fox. Okay, it's doable. It's a there's a not 867 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: zero percent chance. Okay, ty, uh, Josh, what do you 868 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: have next? 869 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 3: Ty? 870 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: Play the sound? 871 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: Oh do I have to play? I forgot I forgot 872 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: my own? 873 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? Why all right? 874 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, mister Pate. 875 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: All right. How familiar are you, guys with Michigan State's offense? 876 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: Not really pretty familiar. Actually, yeah, so tough road last year. 877 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 3: I think we would all agree. I what you did 878 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 3: to Gronowski film the other day, I have done with 879 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 3: Michigan State almost like conspiratorial offensive takes. And I believe 880 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: that Michigan State will jump seventy spots minimum in points 881 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: per game this year, and they were one hundred and 882 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: twenty fourth in points per game last year, so I 883 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: need them up in like the fifties, the low fifties 884 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 3: or better this year. Here's what I see, delusion, some 885 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 3: would say, But what I see is, of course you 886 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 3: got Childs at quarterback. But beyond tim there's a lot 887 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 3: of mystery about the offensive line transfers they brought in. 888 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 3: But one of them was like an All FCS guy, 889 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 3: another one was All ACC honorable mention. One was a 890 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: rotational starter at Oregon State. I think they'll be good 891 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: enough on the offensive line. Marsh is a really good 892 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 3: wide receiver. Of Endings a really good tight end. I 893 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: think that you get the year two bump as well. 894 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: The year two bump is just science at this point. 895 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 3: I think there will be quantum improvement in their production. 896 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: And it's always nice to know they only need to 897 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 3: be fifty first or something like that in the country 898 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,959 Speaker 3: for this to hit. So I think they're going They're 899 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 3: going really really scale hard points per game, can't get 900 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 3: any worse, got to get better. I think it'll get 901 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: a lot better. 902 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 2: So you're talking about I did some quick math. They 903 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: scored nineteen a game last year. You're talking about getting 904 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 2: to around thirty yep, and so thirty points per game 905 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 2: times twelve, Because this is what you do in the 906 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: Big Ten. You have to do some math to figure 907 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: out some minimum scoring acceptance rates. After Iowa's drive to 908 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: what three twenty five? 909 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: Three twenty five yep rip. 910 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: So we're talking about a race to three hundred and 911 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: sixty this year. Hashtag full circle three sixty Michigan State. 912 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 2: I don't hate this. I've actually watched a lot of 913 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith offenses because of Oregon and watching those Washington 914 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 2: teams and Oregon State teams, and I don't think it'll 915 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: be terribly difficult for this team to improve, and so 916 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 2: so I appreciate this. That they have intriguing skill talent. 917 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: The offensive line needs to get a lot better, and 918 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure they brought in fourteen dudes from UTAP to 919 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: try and make it so. But I don't hate this. 920 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: I don't hate this. I don't have their schedule in 921 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: front of me, ty, I don't know if you have. 922 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm ready to fact check, but I do, And who's 923 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: standing in their way? I don't know what rhymes with 924 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: three sixty. 925 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, if they're going to do it, 926 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: they have to get off the three and oh start 927 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: because they've got Western Michigan, Boston College, and Youngstown State 928 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: and they got to pick up three others along the 929 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: way if they want to get to Bowl eligibility. So 930 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: I think Maryland's beatable. They're on the schedule. There just 931 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: aren't two other obvious ones to me on this thing, 932 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: Like could they be UCLA at home? Probably? I don't 933 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: think that highly of UCLA, sure, But then you start 934 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: getting into the territory of can they go to usc 935 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: and when can they go to Nebraska? And when can 936 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: they go to Indiana? And when they've got Michigan in 937 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota and Penn State And there's a lot of AMMO 938 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: on the schedule. So if you believe in Michigan State, 939 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: you are believing in them dumping maybe one, maybe two 940 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: of some of those teams that I listed. I like 941 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 1: the offense too. I think they obviously need to root 942 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: out some of the mistakes or the mistake prone Neess. 943 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: Not a word of Aidan Chiles, but I like the 944 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: combo of him. I like Nick Marsh. I think there 945 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: is a lot of intrigue with that offensive line. I 946 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: also think that the defense will make some things interesting. 947 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,919 Speaker 1: Like they've got four of their five top tacklers gone, 948 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: which hurts. But the upside to all the injuries last 949 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,959 Speaker 1: year is that there were a lot of other guys 950 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: that got experienced. So I think across the board. Second 951 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: year coach Boost definitely science. As you said, Josh, I'm 952 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: not all in on Michigan State, but I do believe 953 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: they're going to find their way into a bowl game. 954 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 3: Now in your two I'm just I don't need them 955 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 3: to have a certain record. What I need them to 956 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: do is drop fifty five on Youngstown. Yes, I need 957 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 3: them to drop points on USC. I need them to 958 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 3: get theirs when it's there to be gotten. So that 959 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 3: if it's thirteen on the board against Penn State, Okay, 960 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 3: we're not dead in the water. We could still this happened. 961 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: Statistically, we're going to balance this. I like that, Yes, Buddy, 962 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: like that. 963 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: If they're scoring in aggregate whatever thirty points a game 964 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 2: they're this year is Indiana. 965 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 3: That's correct, They could be. They could that's look for slate, 966 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 3: but yeah, it could be. 967 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: That means they're at least flirting with thirty against teams 968 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 2: like Iowa and maybe not Penn State, but USC and Minnesota. Like, 969 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 2: if you're scoring thirty points against Minnesota, you've got a 970 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: great shot to beat Minnesota. Right, the games are gonna come. 971 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 2: If you're scoring like that, that's not bad. 972 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't hate this. 973 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't hate by the way, ty, just because you misspoke, 974 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 2: are almost misspoke earlier. I don't know if you wanted 975 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: to enter the term into the Soliverble lexicon. What's a 976 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: coach boost? Oh? Yeah, that's something that you wanted to 977 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: Let's let's move on to. 978 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: Our next take here. 979 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 4: Moretikes why births. 980 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: This one comes to us from Bob Okay, the Big 981 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: Ten will win the college football Playoff for the third 982 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: straight year. It'll be Notre Dame once again ahead of 983 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: the SEC schools, Kaylin debor out at Alabama, a crisis 984 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: of confidence in the SEC. Okay lot going on here. 985 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 2: From Bob, So, the Big Ten winning it's third straight 986 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 2: basically assumes that it's Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon or No, 987 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: that's it, that's sound. 988 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: Who's somebody else? 989 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 4: Maybe? 990 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the big headliner here, though, 991 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: is the boor out at Alabama. Yeah, what is there 992 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: a minimum threshold? Or does such thing even exist? Josh? 993 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: That would lead to Kaitlin de Bor being out at Alabama? 994 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: Like if they were to go eight and four against 995 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: a tough schedule, are they gonna cut bait with the guy? 996 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 3: There's just there's no world where that actually happens now 997 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: where the world where it is attempted to be spoken 998 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 3: into existence is far and wide. The world where that 999 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 3: actually happened. First off, if buyouts were not even a thing, 1000 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,479 Speaker 3: I don't think it would happen. Buyouts are a thing, 1001 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 3: so I especially don't think it will happen now. The 1002 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: conversation would would be crazy. But I this, I don't 1003 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 3: think people have recalibrated their thinking to account for the 1004 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 3: modern age, the modern landscape of college football. There's a 1005 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 3: world it could be Debor, or it could be Sark 1006 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 3: or whoever. These top tier teams in the SEC, someone's 1007 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 3: going to catch an eight and four this year because 1008 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 3: today's eight and four is yesterday's ten and two with 1009 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 3: the different depth of roster now. But I don't think 1010 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 3: people have calibrated that. They still think their floor is 1011 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 3: nine and three everywhere in the top tier of the SEC, 1012 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 3: and that's just not the case anymore. And if Kaylin 1013 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 3: Dbor happens to be end up being the first casualty 1014 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: of that case study, if you will, then so be it. 1015 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 3: Someone will deal with this this year. In fact, like 1016 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 3: LS some combination of Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU, those are 1017 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 3: your top four in the odds in the SEC. It 1018 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 3: would shock me if one of those didn't fall to 1019 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 3: eight and four this year because there aren't enough wins 1020 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 3: to go around for everyone. So it could be Debor 1021 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 3: or someone else. Someone will have to deal with this 1022 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 3: this year. But I don't I don't think it would 1023 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: take scandal or like fall off a cliff struggle to 1024 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 3: make a Bowl game type stuff. And even then it 1025 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 3: may be like mutual, he's so humiliated or it's so 1026 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 3: oil and water that he just decides with the ad 1027 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 3: I'll step away. I just don't see how he gets 1028 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 3: outright acted. 1029 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: Well the conspiracy theory of my wonderful co host here, yeah, 1030 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: because it is sort of that. But we talked about 1031 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: offline potentially Luke Fickle not working out at Wisconsin, there 1032 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: being an opening at Wisconsin, a place that you know 1033 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: an area of the country Kaitlin de Boor is familiar with. 1034 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: He decides, if it I don't like the lifestyle at Alabama, 1035 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm going back up to the Upper Midwest. And then 1036 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: there's suddenly an opening at Alabama. So not out as 1037 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: in being fired, but out as in there is now 1038 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: a new opening at Alabama that we didn't expect. 1039 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 2: Now, okay, two different takes on this topic. One, what 1040 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 2: if Nick Saban has just been doing a lot of 1041 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,959 Speaker 2: transcendental meditation and pilates and is doing some cold top 1042 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 2: therapy and is just super refreshed, and he's just you 1043 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 2: know what, I've had some regrets. I don't like sitting 1044 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: next to Shane Gillis and having him spit in my face. 1045 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go back to what I'm used to. 1046 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: One Number two, just in terms of that specific take 1047 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: of mind that I didn't think about, not a lot 1048 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 2: of people basically give up seventy million dollars for the 1049 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 2: right to move to Wisconsin, a beautiful state that I've 1050 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 2: enjoyed going to. That's a lot of money to say 1051 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to pay seventy million dollars to coach at Wisconsin. 1052 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: That's a lot. It's a lot. It is a lot. 1053 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we're, you know, if we're doing theater 1054 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: to the mind here. 1055 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: I think that's where right around where his biot was 1056 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 2: after last year. I don't know if the number has 1057 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: dipped at some point this spring or something, but it's 1058 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 2: probably not dipped a ton. That's that's the journey there. Okay, 1059 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: all right, I appreciate that. 1060 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: Let's do uh, let's do uh, you know, one, two, 1061 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: three more here? All right? Why what do you got 1062 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: for me? 1063 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 4: Dan? 1064 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: Notre Dame won't lose an embarrassing game to a lesser team. 1065 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: That's not really a take, but it's more of a 1066 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: it's more of a take than it should be. 1067 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 2: We're on a roll here, ty, I think they only 1068 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 2: have what Boise and Navy coming from a slightly lesser 1069 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 2: conference situation, They're gonna be fine. Notre Dame is gonna 1070 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 2: be fine this year. The other take I have let 1071 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 2: me read it exactly as I wrote it. Playoff ratings 1072 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: will be a not super fun talking point around New Year's. 1073 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: A not super fun talking point? Is this because you 1074 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: just hate all ratings discussions the way I do? 1075 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 4: I do? 1076 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 2: Or yeah, I just think it's going to grow uncomfortable. 1077 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 2: I think, what's it's going to be like Josh Pate's 1078 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 2: forehead right now? I think it's not going I hope 1079 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 2: I got that. Okay, it still look great. I think 1080 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 2: we're going to get to the point where because of 1081 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 2: what the NFL is doing around Christmas Day, and not 1082 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 2: that there are college football games I don't leave on 1083 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: Christmas Day this year, but just because the NFL is 1084 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 2: treading into that territory more and more, and because I 1085 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: think there is growing resentment around who is running the 1086 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 2: playoff and the SEC and the Big Ten expanding and 1087 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 2: fighting amongst themselves about playoff formats and if numbers aren't 1088 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 2: sterling and spectacular and don't even hold where they were 1089 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: this past year. I think the discourse is going to 1090 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 2: get heated up as people are paying attention during Bowls season, 1091 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 2: and it's not going to be a fun discourse. That's 1092 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 2: what I have. 1093 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: Who was it just said recently? Who just said recently 1094 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: at Media Day that they should move the start of 1095 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: the season up two weeks or was it Dan Lanning Landing? 1096 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: I said they should start it in a week zero, 1097 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: give themselves a little extra breathing room at the end 1098 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: of the year because college football belongs on Saturdays and 1099 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: didn't appear as if he is a fan of this 1100 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: sort of working around the NFL. 1101 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just especially as the playoff goes to a 1102 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 2: place where you're just going to see itactuated with Big 1103 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 2: ten and SEC teams, I think you're sending a message 1104 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: to a lot of people who love college football that 1105 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 2: these are the only teams that they're allowed to watch 1106 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: as the season ends. And I don't think it's a 1107 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 2: great message. 1108 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: That's all, all right, mister Page, Yes, what else do 1109 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: you got for us anything? 1110 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 3: So I kind of I kind of leaked it a 1111 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 3: second ago. But take that top four of SEC odds, Bama, Georgia, Texas, LSU. 1112 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 3: I think someone goes I almost want to say seven 1113 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 3: and five, but I will say there is an eight 1114 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 3: and four in that group, and then I will do 1115 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 3: I want to go, yes, someone goes seven and five 1116 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 3: out of that group, I'll go seven and five. Someone 1117 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 3: go seven to five. 1118 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: I've got one here that came in on Patreon that 1119 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: the arch Manning hype won't pan out and Texas will 1120 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: miss the playoff. 1121 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 3: Missing the playoff now, Yeah, because because that is closely 1122 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 3: related to one of the predictions I left on the 1123 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 3: cutting room floor, which is Texas is a two lost 1124 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 3: team facing an undefeated OU and Red River, Yeah, which 1125 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 3: which they could lose that win and leave Dallas five hundred. 1126 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 3: And that's how that's how precarious your positioning is in 1127 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 3: this sport, because Sark is on top of the world 1128 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, if they don't, like if they missed 1129 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 3: the playoff this year, do you know how quickly that 1130 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 3: goes from no one can stop us to wait a second. 1131 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 3: So we lost to Georgia twice last year, We got 1132 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 3: a shot against Ohio State, we lost to them. We 1133 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 3: lost all our big games this year. Do we just recruit? 1134 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 3: Is that all we do here? 1135 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 2: And it wasn't not Sark's reputation at USC. 1136 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we started talking about this a little bit, 1137 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: but there there is a fair amount new on the 1138 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: Texas side too, uh huh. You know, so it's it's 1139 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: a take, but you could at least like Squint and 1140 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: understand the logic there. And though I like arch Manning, 1141 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: and though I think he's got an incredible skill set 1142 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: and obviously a name that precedes it to the earlier point. 1143 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of new a quarterback this year, and 1144 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: you can't assume all of them are just going to 1145 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: hit as expected. 1146 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: I have one. I don't know if you want, I 1147 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 2: mean sort of on the same Yeah, go ahead. I 1148 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: think there is a non zero chance Mizugo's like eleven 1149 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: and one this year because of the schedule. Buddy, Now 1150 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: you've got to be it's gotta be ready to invest 1151 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: in the Beau Pribula experience. I grant you, and I am, 1152 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 2: by the way, I know you are. 1153 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1154 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: At one point, yes, last year, you were like, oh, 1155 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: bo Prebula is better than Drew Aller and he was 1156 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 2: like WHOA for a moment, for a moment I had, 1157 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 2: I had a quarter against Minnesota where he was just 1158 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 2: ready to throw it all away to Baguire. 1159 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: We're not here to talk about the pastor here to 1160 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: talk yeah future. 1161 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 2: The schedule is so incredible, and they're just like kind 1162 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 2: of solid across the board, uh and not not even 1163 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 2: just kind of solid, Like it doesn't seem to me 1164 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 2: in late July early August that they have like a 1165 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: catastrophicackness right now and so missoo quietly just rampaging through 1166 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 2: that schedule. I think it's on the table. I'm not 1167 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 2: predicting it to be so, but I think it's on 1168 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 2: the table. 1169 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if people out there listening understand this schedule, 1170 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: because this is the kind of schedule you would build 1171 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: in the old NCAA football game, where you wanted to 1172 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: schedule hard enough yep, so that you wouldn't get docked 1173 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: by then the BCS, but easy enough so that you 1174 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be too threatened along the way. They only have 1175 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: four road games. They avoid Texas, they avoid Tennessee, Ole, 1176 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: miss Lsu, Georgia, and Florida, And on top of it, 1177 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: in terms of giving their self like a little bit 1178 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: of runway to build momentum, their first six games are 1179 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: at home HM the first six games that includes a 1180 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: biggie against South Carolina at the end of September. That 1181 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: includes Alabama on October the eleventh. They don't go on 1182 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: the road until October eighteenth this season, which is you will. 1183 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 3: Have Halloween decorations out long before Zori leaves home. 1184 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: Incredible. 1185 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 2: It's it's not only an incredible schedule, but like the 1186 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 2: actual manner in which it works out, they are in 1187 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 2: like a letdown spot against six of the better teams 1188 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 2: on their schedule, Like it's not even just advantageous in 1189 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 2: terms of home road splits and who they miss, but 1190 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we have this team after they play LSU, 1191 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 2: we have that team after they play at Alabama. We 1192 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 2: have this team. Like it could not have worked out better. 1193 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: You got to be in on bo Pribula, which you 1194 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 2: are tea. 1195 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying if this happens, also as much 1196 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 3: as we're buying prebula stock, if this happens, does it 1197 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 3: not coincide with a mad hardy coming out of nowhere 1198 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: to win the Dope Walker Award? 1199 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 1200 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,479 Speaker 2: Absolutely does. He was very quietly incredible last year for stretches. Yes, 1201 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 2: all right, doing eleven one year zoo it is not 1202 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 2: even that hot to take. I mean I think there 1203 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 2: there will probably end up with a better record than 1204 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 2: the actual content of their performances. 1205 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: Perhaps, but well the old ker is seven and a half. 1206 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 1: So if you believe at all in Miszoo and at 1207 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: all in the schedule, and at all in Boprabulah with 1208 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: the schedule, I mean they might be six and oh 1209 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: after those Well first however, reaighty handful of games. I 1210 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: guess they're probably not going to beat Alabama. That's a 1211 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: bridge too far. But either way, even if they start 1212 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: five to one or four and two, the rest of 1213 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: the way, it's still there to get to seven wins. 1214 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 2: So Mazoo has Alabama and get this a revenge spot 1215 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: for Alabama against Vanderbilt the week before. 1216 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, that's it. Well, why don't we 1217 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: leave it there for people out there listening who have 1218 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: their own takes. Comment on the video, leave comments on Spotify, 1219 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: hit us up Soliverble at gmail dot com. Mister Pi, 1220 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time here, for sharing 1221 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: some of this hot takiness with us. Remind the fine 1222 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: people where they can find you if they're interested in 1223 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: more of what you do. 1224 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate both of you having me very hospitable. It's 1225 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 3: just Josh Pat's College Football Show. Just search it. It 1226 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 3: should pop up. If it doesn't, that's my fault, not 1227 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 3: your fault. 1228 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 2: It's good seo. It's a good title, right. People know 1229 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 2: exactly what they're getting from the title. They're getting Josh 1230 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Pate and they're getting college football. I think he nailed it. 1231 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 3: For better or for worse. 1232 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: There it is man. All right again, his name is 1233 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Josh Pate. We appreciate your time, thanks for stopping buying 1234 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: the solid verbal for the first time. We'll have to 1235 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: make sure we do this again sometime soon. Okay, absolutely, 1236 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: all right, then his name one more time is Josh Pate. 1237 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Check out Josh Pate's college football show does a terrific job. 1238 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: Has had nothing but the kindest of words to say 1239 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: about our show and how in some weird way it 1240 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 1: has helped inspire him to do what he does. So 1241 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: we're grateful to have him in the for Ballerhood along 1242 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: with all y'all. Again, hit follow, hit subscribe if you 1243 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: made it this far and you want to hear more 1244 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 1: of our episodes. We're going on Josh's show as well 1245 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: as part of the Home and Home, so we're talking 1246 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: takes on this show today. On his episode, we're going 1247 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to talk through some things that were just looking forward 1248 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 1: to as fans, as podcasters, as just sports fans as 1249 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: a whole. There are so many interesting storylines this year 1250 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: in the world of college football, and if you tune 1251 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: into his episode upcoming with us, you will get to 1252 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,479 Speaker 1: hear what we have to say. 1253 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting and I agree, and it's great, 1254 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 2: and I definitely recommend you go check that out. The 1255 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 2: idea of a take, like our takes were not necessarily 1256 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: rooted in being one hundred percent serious, but it's like, 1257 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,439 Speaker 2: here's an interesting way to think about this aspect of 1258 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 2: a team or sport that I kind of buy into. Right, 1259 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 2: it's not, you know, the take isn't that you know 1260 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley is going to be coaching Oklahoma again, Like 1261 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 2: maybe maybe the what is it the dad of a listener? 1262 01:01:54,560 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 2: That's his take? But I was sort of writing off 1263 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 2: the idea of takes as sort of a weird, silly exercise, 1264 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 2: and there's nothing weird and silly about Mount Takato. Of course, 1265 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 2: we respect geothermal violence. 1266 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Be careful, be careful for what you wish for. This 1267 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: is still an act of volcan. 1268 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 2: When people ask like, hey, what's what's saliverbal like, my, 1269 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 2: first things first, they respect geothermal violence, that's right, first 1270 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 2: things first. Second of all, I was willing to write 1271 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 2: off the take a sphere until I saw this quote 1272 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 2: from this weekend. Did you see Skip Bayless's quote about 1273 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler, recent winner of the Open Championship. Did you 1274 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: see his. 1275 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Quote I have my hand over my face. 1276 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Guys quote see Tirewood, see Michael Jordan, see Tom Brady, 1277 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 2: and on a far, far lower level see me. Okay, so, 1278 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 2: first of all, it's the fake humility. I love it. 1279 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 2: I approve Yep. I've always been obsessed with maximizing the 1280 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 2: talent God gave me. I felt I was called by 1281 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 2: God to be the very best truth telling commentator and writer. 1282 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 2: As I could be the very best however, I could 1283 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 2: maximize my talent that God gave me, I'm going. 1284 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: To do it. 1285 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 2: To do so, I sacrificed having children because I saw 1286 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 2: that correctly raising children would be a huge time draining 1287 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 2: distraction from maximizing my talents. Okay, first of all, I 1288 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 2: agree with everything he said so far he has me. Okay, 1289 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm checking boxes right here. I feel like twenty seventeen 1290 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Dan commared to twenty twenty five Dan, no contest. 1291 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: The man knows how to build a hook, not gonna lie. 1292 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: He knows how to really in. 1293 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 2: You might say I took on the persona of a 1294 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 2: cold blooded media killer, driven to achieve at all costs 1295 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 2: while honoring God and tithing. Is that the word I'm 1296 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 2: looking for to my church, supporting other great causes as 1297 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I have over the years, and so forth, and so 1298 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 2: forth and so forth, And to that I say respect, 1299 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 2: absolute respect. I'm trying to understand that maybe I was, 1300 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 2: maybe I wasn't called by God to be the truth 1301 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 2: telling machine that I was intended to be. But I 1302 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 2: have a family and children that do command some of 1303 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 2: my time, as does Scottie Scheffler. Apparently he finds his 1304 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 2: family to be more important than golf, which yeah, of course, 1305 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 2: but that sort of woke me up to what I 1306 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 2: could be in the take ecosystem. 1307 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a long ways to go if we 1308 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: want to get the Skip to Skip kil I respected 1309 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: that so much. What a fiery take, yeah, called by 1310 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: God between him and Steve and A. The rest of 1311 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: us have a lot to learn when it comes to 1312 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,439 Speaker 1: crafting a truly effective viral take. 1313 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 2: See the thing is about this is not a media show, 1314 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 2: nor will it ever be a media show. But at 1315 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: least you could convince me, convince me maybe that what 1316 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Stephen A does is performative. I think Skip Aless is 1317 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 2: stone cold serious with every single word he says, and 1318 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 2: I think a deep issue involved therein But oh, I 1319 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 2: appreciated that so much, oh so good. 1320 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, on that note, none of our 1321 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,439 Speaker 1: takes were quite that now, not even in the same stratosphere. Yeah, 1322 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: oh was the best, But we appreciate Josh stopping on 1323 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: by sharing his thoughts. Of course, thank you to the 1324 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: verballerhood as well for sending in those takes on our 1325 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Patreon at verballers dot com, we will continue to tap 1326 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: into the wondrous world that is verballers dot com our 1327 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: community out on Patreon again, Go and check that out. 1328 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: It's the best way to support what Dan and I do. 1329 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: And if nothing more, hit follow, hit subscribe again so 1330 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: that you don't miss the episodes. If you liked what 1331 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: you heard here today, please feel free to leave us 1332 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: a five star rating, a nice review, a comment wherever 1333 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: you can on YouTube, on Spotify, you name it, you 1334 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 1: can do it a million places now. Well in this 1335 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 1: here content world, this is a lot of fun. We'll 1336 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: have to have Josh on again some point soon. That 1337 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: was a great time. Good to finally get him on 1338 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: the show. We will do it again at some point 1339 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: in the future, I promise you. In the meantime, the 1340 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: preview season rolls on here at s v HQI of 1341 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 1: more to come for that guy over there, my good 1342 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, form myself Tye Hildebrand. Thank you as 1343 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,439 Speaker 1: always for tuning on in for your ongoing support. We'll 1344 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: catch you on next time. In the meantime, stay Solt peace,