1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Midsday like she ro bitch, don't drop me hop for 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Helvis ter Ran in. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: The morning show, What a fun morning this has been. Yes, 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: International Women's Day. We're having so much fun and we 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: hope you guys are enjoying the show. So our next guest, Gandhi, 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: actually had her on her podcast. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 3: Yes Sauce on the side, wherever you get to your podcast, 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: come listen. 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: And I was a fascinated by her, and I was like, 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. So when we were talking about guests 11 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: for International Women's Day, we both said, there's no way 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: we cannot have Nicole on the show with us today. 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: So Gandhi, yes, I like to call her my friend 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: Nicole and Jemmy. 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: She is a pathology. 16 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: Assistant, which means she does a lot of really cool stuff. 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: But I don't want to talk about you. I want 18 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: you to talk about you, Helen Nicle, Thank. 19 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 5: You, Johnny, thanks for having me. 20 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Everyone here is so excited and people have a lot 21 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: of questions for you. 22 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm ready. 23 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Why can I start with what we were talking about 24 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: in the green room? 25 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 5: Sure? 26 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay we should she explain exactly what she does for 27 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: a living first, Yeah. 28 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 6: Okay, So I'm a pathologist's assistant and I do autopsies 29 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 6: as well as dis section of organs from surgeries. 30 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: So the way she explained it to me was anything 31 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: that comes out of a body, they will kind of 32 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: analyze it and take a look at Yeah, so that could 33 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: be a bullet, it could be a form an implant 34 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: that came out. 35 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 6: Yes, anything that comes out of a patient that goes 36 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 6: to the hospital. So if a kid swallows a quarter, 37 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 6: if someone gets something stuck in their rear end, anything 38 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 6: we get people swallow weird things. 39 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's pretty cool. 40 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: On our Instagram page sometimes she'll just have this blob 41 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 2: of something and she'll go, look what I took out today. 42 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: Here it is. 43 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: What do you think it is? And you have to 44 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: like guess what the heck it is. I'm like, oh 45 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: my gosh. 46 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I've been doing that for almost ten years now. 47 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 6: Mystery diagnosis I call it, and I do it on Monday's, 48 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 6: like mystery Monday. So I pose something and then the 49 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 6: next week I'll give a reveal and tell you what 50 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 6: it is. But the answers it's really cool because a 51 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 6: lot of people guess it correctly, which is awesome to me, 52 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 6: and then other people put really funny stuff on there, 53 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 6: so with they guess things, food items and just really 54 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 6: funny things. 55 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 7: Well, I know, but you know, once it goes to 56 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 7: the body, it changes, so I guess you have to look. Okay, 57 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 7: this was once a x y Z because appened. 58 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, exactly. 59 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 8: Those are your smart Yeah, you're smart fans. 60 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. And there's definitely people that follow that are doctors, nurses, 61 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 6: so they they know more. But some some people that 62 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 6: are just interested in the field that never got to 63 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: go to college or anything, that they really know their 64 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 6: stuff too. 65 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: It's really cool. 66 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: Off the top of your head with mystery mondays, which 67 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: we actually just got a text that said her mystery 68 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: mondays are my favorite. 69 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: Oh that's my wife and. 70 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: I try to figure out to get off the top 71 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: of your head. Can you think of one that has 72 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: just sort of blown your mind? 73 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 6: Well, I did one actually last week. I mean I 74 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 6: always have ones that that blow my mind, but the 75 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 6: one that I did last week was very controversial and 76 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 6: there was there was a lot of comments underneath, and 77 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 6: it was this woman got IVF and she got pregnant 78 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 6: with three embryos and went in and found out that 79 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 6: she was having triplets, and they advised her to reduce 80 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 6: one of the pregnancies down because they think that if 81 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 6: you have a triplet pregnancy, it's too much and there's 82 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 6: a high risk of losing all of them. So they 83 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 6: do suggest that sometimes to terminate one and I think 84 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: a lot of people thought that when they did that, 85 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 6: they would go in and take one of them out, 86 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 6: but they don't. They leave it in there until the 87 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 6: pregnancy is done. So when you take out the placenta 88 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 6: and you send it to pathology afterwards. She had two 89 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 6: twins that were born healthy. I think it was like 90 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 6: thirty eight weeks, and then the other one is this 91 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 6: little mummified fetus that's kind of attached to the inside 92 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: of the placenta. So that was I thought that that 93 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 6: was really cool and people didn't really realize that happens. 94 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 6: But if you think about it was terminated at fourteen 95 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: weeks and it just sat and fluid dead essentially for 96 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 6: all those weeks. It just turns into this little mummified thing, 97 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 6: and it's really cool, and it's something that we see 98 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 6: in pathology, not all the time, but I've seen it 99 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 6: multiple times. 100 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: Wow, she sees all kinds of stuff, man. 101 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: She was telling us. So we were sitting in the 102 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: green room and you were saying, yeah, did you hear 103 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: about all these body parts that are being found in 104 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: random places like that finger they found in Walmart? And 105 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: we were like, how does that happen? And you were 106 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: explaining that it can happen. 107 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really cool. 108 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 6: The past three weeks there's been all these different news stories. 109 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 6: It was they found a leg on the platform and 110 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 6: in the bronx at the train station, which is just 111 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 6: like okay there, but then we found out later that 112 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 6: that was from someone that got hit by a train. 113 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 6: So that completely makes sense why there was just a 114 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: human leg there. 115 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: What how did it get there? 116 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 6: Well, just when you get hit by a train, you 117 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 6: come to the morgue in multiple pieces. 118 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 5: In a body. 119 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: Gosh. 120 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 5: And yeah. 121 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 6: So they found a finger in the parking lot at 122 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 6: Walmart and then the medical examiner determined that it was 123 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 6: there was nothing suspicious about it. So then my daughter 124 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 6: Maria asked me, well, how how do you know that? 125 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 6: And then I said, oh, because you could tell that 126 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: it wasn't traumatically amputated. So if it was with a 127 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 6: sharp item like a knife, it looks one way. And 128 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: if it was you know, blunt object like a hammer 129 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 6: or something knocked it off, it would look another way. 130 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: But if it was from natural disease, I'm assuming that 131 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: it was from gangering. And sometimes there's something called an 132 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 6: auto amputation, So your finger can essentially mommify and die 133 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 6: off and fall off itself. 134 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: It's called an auto amputation. 135 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: So those parts it was just shopping at Walmart and 136 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: then their fingers. 137 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that it makes sense people of Walmart. 138 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of weird that they loved it. Like, 139 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: if your finger falls off, you wouldn't pick it up 140 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: and do something with it or take it home. 141 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: You just make it, make a key. 142 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: Chain out of it. Somebody's done that before you. 143 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I know you have some questions. 144 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: You've moved the microphone away from yourself, but I want 145 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: you to be part of it. 146 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 7: No, no, no, well no, no, okay, So I'm going 147 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 7: to go back to you talking about the triplets. Okay, 148 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 7: they had to make a decision on leaving one behind. Yeah, 149 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 7: you see what you do for a living To me, 150 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 7: to me, I give you so much. I give you 151 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 7: a mountain of credit for being able to take emotion 152 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 7: out of it. 153 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 6: Oh you have to. 154 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 7: I mean you you actually have to put the safety 155 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 7: on the trigger of any trigger that anything in your life. Yeah, 156 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 7: because you're there are people listening right now going, oh 157 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 7: my gosh, well A B and C happened in my life, 158 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 7: and I just wow, how can she go through that? 159 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 7: But it's it's the necessary thing people must go through 160 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 7: to save lives. Yeah, it's it's weird to discover how 161 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 7: someone did lose their life. 162 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 163 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 6: When when I was pregnant, it was weird because I 164 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 6: would I would be, you know, thirty six weeks pregnant, 165 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 6: and then I'd have to do an autopsy on someone 166 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 6: on a fetus that died that was thirty six weeks along, 167 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 6: and I'd be like sitting here at my we sat 168 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 6: at a desk similar to this, and I'd have like 169 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 6: this dead fetus baby in front of me when one's 170 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 6: like right in my belly the same side. 171 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 5: You know, like you have to disconnect. 172 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 8: Is it easy to do the disconnect at this point 173 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 8: ten years now? 174 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 175 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 176 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: Wait, what were you telling us about your fine eating 177 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: a cheese boarder over a dead body now or something? 178 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: This is crazy? 179 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 6: Well, I was saying that there's there's two different people 180 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 6: that work in pathology. There's the people that wear like 181 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 6: the complete moon suit and ten pairs of gloves and 182 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 6: open door handles with paper towels, and then like me, 183 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 6: I could just eat a hamburger over a dead body. 184 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't feel any kind of way about it. 185 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't ski anything. 186 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Daniel scheves everything I said. I'm the one 187 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: with the paper towel on the door handle. 188 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: Someone sniffles in a room and Daniel's guy get them out. 189 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 8: But effective what you do. You have to be that way. 190 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 8: It makes you great at what you do. 191 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you don't. You don't. 192 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: If I was sitting in the corner crying all the time, 193 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 6: I couldn't get my job done. And ultimately, like especially 194 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 6: in cases when like a baby dies or something, it's 195 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 6: you want to give the mom answers. 196 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: That's like your job. 197 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 7: So you know I'm going to I'm gonna stop crying 198 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 7: every day. 199 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: So Nicole has a podcast it's called Mother Knows Death. Yes, 200 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: she also has a website, the Grossroom. Yes, it's the 201 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: grossroom dot com grossroom dot com and it is gross. 202 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: So before you go there, just know what you're walking into. 203 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: But some of the things that she does is investigate 204 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: sort of topical matters at the moment, what's happening in 205 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: pop culture, with celebrity autopsies, with just things that are 206 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: trending at the moment. And something that she was talking 207 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: about is a phenomenon of the Brazilian butt lift. And 208 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: we don't want to get too dirty about it, but 209 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: a lot of times, not only are they just putting 210 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: your own body into your body, but they put other 211 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: objects in there and that makes it difficult to remain clean. 212 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: And she was telling me earlier that this is a 213 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: rising problem. 214 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 6: What so So, there was this TikTok trend that was 215 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 6: going on last week with all these guys saying that 216 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 6: women that. 217 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: They were we have to be very careful. How you 218 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: say this? 219 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 6: Yes, okay, women that they were having relations with had 220 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 6: uh that had this proced You're done this, bbl. They 221 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 6: had stinky butts okay, I would say, And yeah, when 222 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 6: they do the procedure, they don't. I don't think that 223 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: they typically do implants and silicone injections. That's that's not 224 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: what would normally be done in this particular country anyway, 225 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 6: they just transfer fat. Usually they'll do like light bo 226 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 6: on the hips and on the stomach and then they 227 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 6: they transplant it back into the rear end. But it 228 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 6: makes it very firm and fill fills it up. And 229 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 6: these women that don't naturally have these rear ends are 230 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 6: having a hard time spreading their you. 231 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 5: Know, you get it, but natural, it's natural. 232 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 6: It's not natural. And also just you have to think 233 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 6: your anatomy is kind of set up to handle your 234 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 6: own body. And I was telling you like when when 235 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 6: I after I delivered my daughter and my milk came 236 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: in and my bras got like really large, it was 237 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 6: it was like hard for me to even like reach 238 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: around my body at that time because it just that's 239 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 6: not my normal arm and anatomy and everything. And it's 240 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 6: the same could be said there, like your arms are 241 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: made to reach what God gave you. 242 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 8: You know, brilliant, you got brilliant. 243 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: I guess they're all sitting on the edge of their 244 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,479 Speaker 6: seat like God. 245 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: Well, when I had her on my podcast, it was 246 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: like free, you can say whatever you want, you can 247 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: do whatever you want because it's a podcast. 248 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: But we have to be a. 249 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: Little more careful here with what's going on. We're getting 250 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: a lot of texts asking things like how long does 251 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 3: it typically take to get toxicology results or autopsy results 252 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: once somebody passes away. 253 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 6: So toxicology takes a little bit longer of a time 254 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 6: because there's a backup because just think of all of 255 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 6: the people that die every day. They're doing so much toxicology, 256 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: especially on people that are overdosing, which is a huge 257 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 6: thing right now. Autopsy results, so when we do the autopsy, 258 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 6: we have to put out a preliminary report within twenty 259 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 6: four hours, and that just as that's just the gross finding. 260 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 6: So when we talk about gross, that's what we could 261 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: see with our eyes as opposed to microscopic is under 262 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 6: the microscope. So if you open someone up and they 263 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 6: have a pulmonary embolism, you could say, okay, we saw this, 264 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 6: And oftentimes that happens. You see somebody, you open them up, 265 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 6: and you're like, okay, this is why they died. They're 266 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: my favorite autopsies when you just open them and you're like, yeah, 267 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 6: that's it right. 268 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 5: But sometimes you just. 269 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 6: Look at everything and either it's one hundred percent normal 270 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 6: or maybe it's like a little weird, but not enough 271 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: that you could say, Okay, that killed them. So that's 272 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 6: when the final anatomic diagnosis comes out, and that could 273 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 6: be months later, depending because we have to look at 274 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 6: slides under the microscope, toxicology, other tests like microbiology, blood test, 275 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 6: stuff like that. So when that all comes together and 276 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 6: then the pathologist looks at all that stuff together, that's 277 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 6: when we're able to determine what the final cause of 278 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 6: death was. 279 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: Wait, if you open somebody up, right, or say somebody 280 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: dies in a mysterious way, right, and a family member says, yeah, 281 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: I don't want them to have an autopsy legally, do 282 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: they still have to have an autopsy because they died 283 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: in a weird, mysterious way or can? They say no? 284 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: So that's a good question. 285 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 6: So in the hospital, which is where I've done most 286 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 6: of my autopsies, the family gets a choice. They say, 287 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 6: can you find out I don't know why my loved 288 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 6: one die? 289 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: Can you do it? 290 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 6: And then we would say yes or no, And sometimes 291 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: we would even ask them, hey, could we autopsy this 292 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 6: person because they had some interesting medical thing going on. 293 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 6: But when it comes to legal autopsies, you really don't 294 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: have a choice, especially if it's a homicide or some 295 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 6: accident or something that's a legal case, you can There's 296 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 6: oftentimes that people go to the medical examiner and ask 297 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: them because of religious reasons, like can you do this 298 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 6: on this day so I could get the body back 299 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 6: because we have to bury within twenty four hours, or 300 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 6: they beg please, please please, don't cut them. It's against 301 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: our religion. And the medical examiner tries to accommodate as 302 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: much as possible, but sometimes, especially if someone gets shot, 303 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 6: they have to cut the person open to investigate. 304 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: H This is amazing so much. 305 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: One of the things in all of this, when Danielle 306 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: was talking about a suspicious death versus a non suspicious death. 307 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: We hear celebrities dying of cardiac arrest all the time, 308 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: and you said, that is a cop out answer. 309 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: It explain my nerves so bad. 310 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: Because like everybody dies from cardiac arrest and your heart stops, 311 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 6: so like that's it. You don't die of cardiac arrest, 312 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 6: Like that's something has to cause your heart to stop, right, 313 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 6: and that could be a million things. I just in Pennsylvania, 314 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 6: we did not accept that as a cause of death 315 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 6: on the death certificate. Like the funeral home wouldn't even 316 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 6: come pick up a body if it said that, So 317 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 6: we would have to track down the doctor because the 318 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 6: doctors do it all the time because it's lazy. You'd 319 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 6: have to track them down and be like, no, you 320 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 6: need to write the right cause of death on here 321 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 6: and wow, whatever you. 322 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: By the way, we are with Nicole and Jemmy, a 323 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: pathologist assistant. She has a podcast, Mother Knows Death. You 324 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: can find her on Instagram at missus Underscore and Jemmy. 325 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people are asking about that. 326 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: It is a n G E M. I missus Underscore 327 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: and Jimmy, and she does have a lot of followers. 328 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: And and my my instagram was iHeart Autopsy because that 329 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 6: was like my beginning thing. But my account got deleted 330 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 6: so many times, so now like I'm stuck with my name. 331 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever get flagged? Like do they flag 332 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: you because you posted something? 333 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: You know, every single day of my life? 334 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 6: I got five flag this week every single thing I post. 335 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: And then what do you do with this flag? 336 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: If they just know they they threaten to take they 337 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 6: want me to take it down, or they just say 338 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: they're not showing my account to new people. 339 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: Oh my wow, I mean what happens to the best 340 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: of us. 341 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: To constant struggle with these people. 342 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: It is, but you're doing really good work and it's 343 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: also really fascinating. I mean, I would talk to you 344 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: about this all day. She you told me that you 345 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: believe a lot of the cardiac arrest stories that we 346 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: read about celebrities are. 347 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: Really drug related, because that will stop your heart. 348 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. 349 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 6: I mean there's just so many different things that could happen, 350 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 6: and you have to understand, like celebrities want even though 351 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 6: they want to be in the public eye, they also 352 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 6: like they're humans, so they get to have their own 353 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 6: privacy too, and they don't want to tell everything, like 354 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 6: Kate Middleton for example, like what's going on there? 355 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, what is going on there? 356 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: Wait? 357 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people have. 358 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: A lot of different suspicions. 359 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 6: Well, they said she had abdominal surgery, which to me 360 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: just implies that they could have cut her open from 361 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 6: from anywhere and did anything in her pelvic cavity or 362 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 6: her abdominal cavity. She could have had something simple as 363 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 6: a tummy talk. I don't think so, because I feel like, 364 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: why is she needs so much recovery time? I think 365 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 6: she could possibly have a like a condition like Crohn's. 366 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: She's young. 367 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 6: And then just seeing that picture of her, if that 368 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 6: is her in the car, her face looks a little swollen, 369 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 6: like maybe she's on steroids or something. So I'm thinking 370 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: maybe she has some kind of underlying disease like that. 371 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 6: Could could be cancer too, but probably not as likely 372 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 6: just for her age. But you can't rule anything out 373 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 6: because people her age get cancer too. 374 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: But do you sit there. 375 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: I can stroll on all kinds of pictures and instagrams 376 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: and be like, let me try and figure out what's 377 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: wrong with all the time. 378 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: Yes, So we actually just got a text message that says, 379 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: my fifteen year old daughter is interested in this occupation. 380 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: What advice would you have for her? 381 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good question. So you can you can 382 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 6: shadow at sometimes to look at autopsies and to go 383 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 6: look at especially like younger people, you might want them 384 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 6: to just go into surgical pathology because it's a little 385 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 6: bit less gruesome because there's not a dead body there. 386 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 6: It's just like an organ on a cutting board. 387 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: But they can call. 388 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 6: Their local pathology at any hospital just say can I 389 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 6: have the pathology department and then ask if a student 390 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 6: could go shadow, because that's how you could really know 391 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 6: if people can handle it. Because trust me, I've had 392 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 6: people faint on me, like watching me do this. 393 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: Oh I'm sure our very own Scotty Bee wants to 394 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: faint this conversation. 395 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it. 396 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 6: I mean we've I've had people like nurses come watch 397 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 6: an autopsy and just look white as a ghost, And 398 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: I'm thinking, like, maybe you should reconsider your career choice. 399 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 4: You started when you were really young. 400 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 401 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: I fell into it though, because when I was in 402 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 6: college there wasn't even the internet really, right. It was 403 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 6: nineteen ninety nine when I started, so it was I mean, 404 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 6: I guess the Internet was a thing, but I didn't 405 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 6: have it at my house. It was like I would 406 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 6: go on and my mom would be on the phone 407 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 6: and it would kick you off. 408 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, like that back back in the day stuff. 409 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 6: So yeah, I just fell into it because I started 410 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 6: looking under the microscope and I loved it at school. 411 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 6: And then I found that there was a lab in 412 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 6: the hospital. Never knew about that, and then I would 413 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 6: go there and visit and then and it just kind 414 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 6: of fell into place from there. That how I found 415 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 6: out about this whole field. I told you my leg story. 416 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: Oh god, go ahead, all. 417 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: Right, I'll tell you the story. 418 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: Every wait. 419 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 5: I wouldn't tell him. 420 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: I would send it to the podcast and say, oh, 421 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: if you want to know, you have to go to 422 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: the podcast. 423 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I hear. 424 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 6: Yes, it has to do with yeah, yeah, it just 425 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 6: go listen to Gandhies episode. It has to do with 426 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 6: a gangrenous leg and a smell and there you go. 427 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: Say, but that. 428 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: Podcast is sauce on the side. Wherever you find your podcast. 429 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: I'll take the money later for oneut what how many 430 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: do you do, like a week or a day? How 431 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: many wellsies? 432 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: It depends on what hospital you work at. 433 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 6: So the majority of my career I worked at a 434 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 6: teaching institution and we had you would say, like two 435 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 6: hundred or two hundred and fifty autopsies a year, so 436 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 6: there was like a couple week. The Medical Examiner's office 437 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 6: does way more every day, because they sometimes when I 438 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 6: was there, they would get up to like fifteen bodies. 439 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 6: This in Philadelphia anyway, I don't know what happens in 440 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: New York, but they would get like fifteen bodies a day. 441 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 6: They don't autopsy every single one of them. Though sometimes 442 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 6: they just do an external exam. So if someone died 443 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 6: at home and they don't really know what happened, let's 444 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 6: say they look they'll look at the outside of their body, 445 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 6: and if they have a scar like a sterdonomy scar, 446 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 6: like they had heart surgery or something, and the patient's 447 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 6: physician says, yeah, they had heart problems and stuff and 448 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 6: they were willing to sign a death certificate, then they 449 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 6: won't cut that body. Just it's just really for resources 450 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 6: because it would take a long time to do all 451 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: of those autopsies. 452 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: Wow, fascinating all of it. 453 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: If you want to hear more about this, because we're 454 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: getting a lot of texts, where can I hear more? 455 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 4: Where can I find her? 456 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: She has her own podcast, Nicole and Jemmy It's Mother 457 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: Knows Death. You have your Instagram page at missus Underscore 458 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: and Jemmy A N G E M I and. 459 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: We love you. 460 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: And I think all of this is so educational and amazing. 461 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: Thinks thinks for coming in. 462 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 7: Okay, users, Yeah, I have to say I love watching 463 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 7: How your Mind Works. I'm assuming I think we're seeing 464 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 7: a picture of how your mind works. It's very Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, 465 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 7: but maybe. I mean the way you look at the 466 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 7: big picture, and I think there's a learning there's a 467 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 7: learning point for everyone and no matter what you're doing 468 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 7: with your life and whatever business. But saying that you 469 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 7: started this ten years ago, being a woman in your field, 470 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 7: have you seen it change in the last ten years? 471 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 7: Are there a lot of women doing exactly what you're 472 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 7: doing now? 473 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 6: Well, I've actually been in pathology for twenty for twenty 474 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: four years, yeah, because I started when I was nineteen. 475 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 8: We're going to get ten years. 476 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: Well, I started my Instagram ten years ago. 477 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 7: Then there was no life before Instagram. Okay, twenty something years. 478 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: Talk about how it's changed for women. 479 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 6: So it's interesting because a lot of my mentors in 480 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 6: school that are pathologists assistants were men and now, but 481 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 6: then when I was in school for it, I mean 482 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 6: I was in school over fifteen years ago for it. Now, 483 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 6: but when I was in school, our whole class was female. 484 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 5: So it's oh, I love that. 485 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's changing to a more female dominated area. It's 486 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 6: it's pretty interesting. But I I mean I've had issues 487 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 6: for sure, trust me, because like I've had older men 488 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 6: be my boss or something like that, and some of 489 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 6: them are awesome and some of them were not awesome. 490 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: Wow, sorry of every boss. Yes, yeah we have not 491 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: awesome is awesome? 492 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 8: You've anice old man here. 493 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: Yes, you let us poke at this for a while. 494 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we love it. 495 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. If you want 496 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: her Mother Knows Death is a podcast. Missus an Jemmy 497 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: on Instagram. And by the way, everything we've been talking 498 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: about today is posted on the Elvis Durand Show Instagram page, 499 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: so you can go and get the info there. If 500 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: you didn't catch it when we said it, there you go. 501 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, Nicle, thanks. 502 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: For having me. 503 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Fascinating. 504 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 8: Fascinating is the word we need. 505 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Fifteen more minutes of Elvis duran in the Morning Show. 506 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 7: Good God, how do we cram all these people in 507 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 7: one room? 508 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: The fifteen minute Morning Show podcast and extra fifteen minutes 509 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: of Elvis's and on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you 510 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. El Vista rand in the Morning Show