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Speaker 1: number six on our horror hit list. Well it's from

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Speaker 1: a couple of directors who actually already have a movie

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Speaker 1: on our horror hit list. And with that, welcome to

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Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. We continue our deep cuts.

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Speaker 1: We count down our favorite horror movies that maybe you

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Speaker 1: haven't heard of as we get close to Halloween now

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Speaker 1: just days away. Robes, this one is impressive. This is

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite horror movies in recent years. And

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Speaker 1: this was such a shocking and pleasing delight because this

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Speaker 1: was not your standard horror movie.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I was so scared, and I think when you watch

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Speaker 3: as many horror movies as we do, to say I

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Speaker 3: was so scared, there's a high threshold and this one

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Speaker 3: had to look away a couple of times because I

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Speaker 2: To keep watching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get into that. Yeah, there are some

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Speaker 1: moments in this one, but it creeps you out, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a ghost story, but it does have

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Speaker 1: some pretty horrific stuff in there as well. But the

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Speaker 1: movie we are talking about is talk to Me is

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Speaker 1: number six on our horror hit list. Talk to Me,

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Speaker 1: and this is the one I said Robes like. At

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Speaker 1: the time we saw this movie, we were saying publicly,

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Speaker 1: this young lady needs to get an oscar. We will

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Speaker 1: talk to you about her performance, but talk to me.

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Speaker 1: As the movie was released just in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: It's a horror mystery thriller. It's an hour thirty five

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Speaker 3: minutes right there in this week spot. And here's the

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Speaker 3: synopsis if you haven't heard. When a group of friends

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Speaker 3: discover how to conjure spirits using an embalmed hand, they'd

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Speaker 3: come hooked on the new thrill until one of them

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Speaker 3: because it starts out at a teen party, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea what's happening. But here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: A lot of movies that surround teen parties and have

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Speaker 3: teen partiers get a little silly and campy. There is

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Speaker 3: nothing about this movie that is silly or campy. This

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Speaker 3: is thrilling and uncomfortable and intense.

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Speaker 2: Almost all the way.

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Speaker 1: Through very uncomfortable. There are several scenes I'm thinking about

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Speaker 1: now I don't want to watch again. I know where

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Speaker 1: at certain parts of this movie.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and so this did extremely well at the box

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Speaker 3: office for a budget of just four point five million dollars. What. Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. Yes, all set in Australia. In

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Speaker 3: the directors this is Danny and Michael Philippo, so we

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Speaker 3: know that they have now become like horror geniuses and

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Speaker 3: this was kind of well, this was their entrance, their

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Speaker 3: entree into this genre, and man did they come in

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Speaker 3: with a bang. So yeah, four and a half million

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Speaker 3: shot in their home country of Australia. They kept it tight,

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Speaker 3: but they made almost ninety two million dollars worldwide.

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Speaker 1: That's a hit. See, I didn't realize the budget was

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Speaker 1: that low. I'm thinking back to the movie. I'm like, Hi,

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Speaker 1: the hell did they do that? Did they go? Was

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Speaker 1: it the location? Was it incentives? Was it something? But

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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: And Sophie Wilde, who we were talking about, who is

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Speaker 3: just this exceptional actress. She's also Australian so I think

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Speaker 2: They don't leave anything behind.

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Speaker 3: Every detail is taken care of and actually done to

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Speaker 2: So yes, Sophie Wild.

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Speaker 1: Made this movie okay, and it required it required. I

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Speaker 1: mean I can't imagine the toll this movie took on

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Speaker 1: She this girl and I didn't know from anything before this.

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Speaker 3: Lady, Miranda Otto. I didn't know her name, but you

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Speaker 2: The Rotten Tomato score.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, it's full validation for us. He didn't know

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Speaker 3: eighty three percent. About right too, Yep, because it is

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Speaker 3: that can be true, and I'd say that's probably true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of build up and intrigue

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were acting like it fell off the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just didn't like the way the train was going. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's a really good way to put it. Not the

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Speaker 3: movie for you, Okay, here's the critic consensus. With a

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Speaker 3: gripping story and impressive practical effects, talk to me spins

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Speaker 3: a terrifically creepy twenty first century horror yarn built on

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Speaker 1: Boom. That's right, it's a ghost, it's a creepy story,

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Speaker 1: and they found a new way to tell it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: These guys, the masters of modern horror is what they're

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Speaker 3: At this point, anything they put out you will go

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Speaker 1: If they tell me they are doing a Smurf's remake,

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Speaker 2: That's how good it is. All right.

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Speaker 3: Here are some of the critic reviews, and honestly, they

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Speaker 3: It's like a more sadistic Evil Dead movie.

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Speaker 1: The shower scene, the boy in the hospital, I wanted

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Speaker 2: All right, here's another critic.

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Speaker 3: Review Sophie Wilde's outstanding performance and the film's genuinely impressive

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Speaker 3: VFX are worth the price of entry alone.

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Speaker 2: Visual effects.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yeah, you're right. So I'm still thinking about

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Speaker 1: the four million whatever in the budget, because nothing in

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Speaker 1: it looks like it was done half ass.

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Speaker 2: No, nothing they've done has looked like that. So here, Okay.

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Speaker 3: The first half is as compelling as it gets, effectively

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Speaker 3: conjuring horrifying images from the underworld and scarier yet the

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Speaker 3: troubled souls of the bereave.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Oh that's good. You these scary people. You sympathize

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Speaker 1: you're curious about what this person's going through with these ghosts.

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Speaker 1: If you will. Oh my god, now I'm appreciating it more.

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Speaker 1: Listening to the reviews, You're gonna love this next one.

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Speaker 3: Imagine an early M Night Shyamalan movie such as The

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe this is what these brothers do. You're right,

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Speaker 1: We have to come together with m Night Chamalan. These

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Speaker 2: You know what, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I do believe that they've taken some

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Speaker 2: That works.

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Speaker 1: What ghost story? Teen drama, teens behaving badly, doing something

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Speaker 3: Wow, all right, audience reviews. Every moment of building tension

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Speaker 3: It would still shock me. Just a simple concept executed flawlessly.

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Speaker 1: Yes, these brothers are now have developed and their other

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Speaker 1: movie as well. Talked to me. Things happen to where

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Speaker 3: So this next one actually made me laugh. My nightmares

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Speaker 3: Someone extremely important to you, it will resonate on a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something we No matter how ridiculous a lot

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Speaker 1: This is one of those things where this is a

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Speaker 1: Would you make that sacrifice if you could talk to

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Speaker 2: Would you risk the Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oooh all right, I've got a bad review and this

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Speaker 3: I can see the appeal to a small segment of

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Speaker 3: the horror click Talk to Me was nothing more than

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Speaker 3: a ninety minute parable about guilt and not dealing with

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Speaker 3: one's abandonment issues. The first act is unreasonably long winded,

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Speaker 2: Their shallow, thoughtless and boring.

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Speaker 3: So much more could have happened with a minimum of effort,

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Speaker 3: But then that's all the filmmakers gave this one minimum effort.

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Speaker 1: It's kids playing spin the bottle at an event, right,

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