WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Chiefs Fines, Eric Nehm 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.559 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.760 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.920 Final Hour on this Thursday, and it's the final day 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.440 that we can guarantee delivery by Christmas Day anything ordered 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:16.639 at Danpatrick dot com except moonshine, that's not guarantee, just 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.560 letting you know. Sunday night, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.400 take on Trevor Lawrence and the Jags. That'll be seven 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:26.239 Eastern on NBC and Peacock And that's one of those 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.200 standalone games where you're looking at Lamar Jackson if he 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.680 has a really good game. Now you move up a 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.000 little bit in the MVP odds because right now it 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.440 appears to be a two quarterback race. It's Dak Prescott 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.720 and Brock perty Bennett's Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts and Tyreek Hill. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.159 Football coming up tonight, Chargers are getting three against the Raiders. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.800 The over under is thirty four and a half. Anytime 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:55.360 touchdowns score? Who do you have best odds to score 0:00:55.360 --> 0:01:03.040 a touchdown tonight at any time? Todd Austin Eckler, A second, Marvin, 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:09.400 Josh Jacobs, Josh Jacobs blue plu plu plu Yes. Zamir 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.200 White is in there then DeVante Adams a mere Abdullah 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.920 oblom Gatta. That's that's that's it's a mirror Abdullah. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.560 Yes, I wonder if you could bet on I'm sure 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.240 you can being scoreless at halftime. Oh sure, I wonder 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:25.600 what the odds on that at what the plus on 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:25.920 that is? 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.600 You think it'll be scoreless? 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:29.920 It have no, it would be a fun one to 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.280 play with after last week with the Raiders and the 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:33.720 Charges offense not much better. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:34.720 Eastern Stick. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.320 I would never be smirt. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:41.160 Jon jn't bet against Eastern Stick. All right, So we've 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.600 talked a lot about the Pacers, We've talked about the Bucks, 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.440 the game ball drama, all of that. We'll do a 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.320 little deeper dive here coming up. Your phone calls are 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.840 always welcome. Poll question for the final hour, the program 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.360 is going to be what Seaton No, Connor. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:56.520 Well, damn. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.400 People still sticking with Giannis deserving that game ball over 0:01:59.480 --> 0:01:59.840 Usk or she. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.120 Yeah, but Yannis didn't want the ball for himself. He 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:10.200 it's reported that he wanted it for Dame Lillard allegedly. Okay, 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.399 I'm just going by what was reported. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.680 Going going by what Todd Fritz. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:20.079 No, it's not Todd. No, that journalists are reporting that 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.000 we're going to talk to. One of those journalists is 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.520 the journalist with us Todd any minute? Okay, Eric name, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.080 the senior writer for the Athletic. He covers the bus. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.880 He was there when all the drama unfolded in the 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.520 bowels of the stadium, the arena there. Let's bring in Eric, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:42.520 who joins us on the program. Help me understand here. Uh, okay? 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.440 Is it Yannis who wanted the ball for Yannis or 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.160 did Yannis wanted for Dame Lillard? 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.320 I mean, I think Janis wanted it for Yannis. I 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.760 think when Yanas had a chance to talk about it 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.480 a little bit, he also wanted it for Dame because 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.000 he realized, you know, I have a Hall of Fame 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.320 teammate with me. He just had a historic night as well, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.720 so we need that game ball as well. But no, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.920 I think more than anything, Giannis knew that that was 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.880 a franchise record, one that he one of the few 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.760 franchise records at this point that he doesn't have. He 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.480 wanted that basketball, he didn't have it, and he needed 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:19.400 to go chase it down. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.320 How much of a factor was it that it was 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.120 the Pacers and the Bucks. Given what happened with the 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.840 end season tournament game. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.720 I think the Bucks definitely wanted to get that game 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.560 back last night. They've lost twice to the Pacers this year. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.040 The first game this year, Jannis had fifty four points 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.880 and the Pacers were still able to come back from 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.520 behind and grab a win there. So I don't think 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.360 the Bucks enjoyed playing the Pacers all that much. I 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.920 don't think they enjoyed the Pacers, you know, having some 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.800 fun at the Bucks expense in the end season tournament. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.520 You know, Tyre's Halliburton is fantastic, but he did the 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.760 whole you know, fake Dame time kind of thing, is 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.000 my time now instead of damn time? And you could 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.520 kind of see that from the start of the game, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.240 Like at the very start of this game, Jannis gets 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.800 a tech, he delivers a forearm shiver to Tyreus Haliburton. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.880 Is Haliburton's going back up the floor. So you can 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.960 tell there's this kind of bad blood. I don't want 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.839 to call it a rivalry quite yet. They haven't played 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.200 playoff games like the Bucks have like full on playoff 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.880 rivalries with like a team like the Heat, so it's 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.440 not quite there yet, but yeah, it definitely has some 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.800 of that. They're a little bit annoyed with with the 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.039 little brother here, kind of trying to, you know, start 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:34.560 something with. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.720 The big brother. Where is the game ball? 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:43.880 I mean that all depends who you ask, because after 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.200 the game, like I'm sitting in the locker room, and 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.760 Yannis is a thousand percent convinced that the ball that 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.040 is in his possession, sitting next to his locker is 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.119 not the game ball from last night, because every game, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.159 I mean, and I learned a lot about game balls 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.520 in NBA rules last night, but before every game, there's 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.000 three balls. So you have three balls out there, the 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.280 captains go out, they pick one of them, and then 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.039 there's a reserve game ball. But also from my understanding, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.160 there should be a reserve to the reserve game ball, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.160 so there should be three that are there. So Yannis 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.640 thinks the ball that was put in front of him 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.120 in the locker room after the game is the reserve 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.400 game ball and not the actual game ball. And his 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.919 reasoning was, I played thirty seven minutes, I felt the 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.000 ball throughout the night, I shot thirty two free throws. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.560 I know what it feels like. That is not what 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.599 the ball feels like. So while they are telling him 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.840 this is the game ball and you can watch, you know, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.239 right after the game, the one of the Buck security 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.840 guards goes straight to the ref grabs the ball and 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.120 from what I can tell, gives it to someone that 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.320 works for the Bucks. And then the Bucks have the 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:05.000 ball in their possession. But twenty seconds later, Tyrus Halliburn 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.800 has a ball in his hands. Yanna sees it and 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.359 thinks that's the ball. So honestly, it is all about 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.200 who you believe at this point, because there are a 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.680 number of people that I guess can account for the 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.440 ball for some portion of the night, but can't account 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.760 for the ball for other portions of the night. And 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.120 now it is just who you believe. And this is 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.120 one of the more ridiculous things I've ever covered in 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.200 my time covering the league. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:34.599 Worst look for the Pacers or Yannas, Oh. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:39.240 That's interesting. I mean, probably Yannis that he is someone 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.360 that's accomplished a lot, He's been through a lot. At 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.159 this point, he should probably, you know, not be allowing 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.760 teams to kind of get underneath his skin, uh in 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.400 this way. But at the same time, you know whether 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.240 or not the Facers had the actual ball. Once they're 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.560 in the tunnel, they are yelling back to Yannis and 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.680 all the Bucks players that have come along with them, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.679 don't let him have the ball. You're not getting the ball. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:11.000 So they enjoyed that, you know, whether or not they 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.720 had it, they enjoyed that Yana's thought that they had it. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.120 So again, I don't know that anyone really comes up 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.160 looking great after this one, because it truly is a 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.080 pretty ridiculous sitution. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.880 Okay, did you do any reporting on the Pacers with 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.240 their tradition that their rookies when they score their first basket, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:30.840 they get the ball. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:36.320 Yeah, so that is something that they do. But because 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.600 this story just just keeps having more and more layers, 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.960 it gets even more confusing because Oscar Sibwe technically scored 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.200 before last night, right, but he did so in the 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.920 N Season Tournament. So now we have to figure out 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.560 is that an actual point, because we're not sure how 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.800 anyone's going to keep these records going forward, because one, 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.320 we don't know if the N Season Tournament's going to 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.600 exist going forward, we know how long it's going to 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.640 exist going forward. We don't know if it was an 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.640 actual game or a not actual game or just an 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.560 nd season tournament game. So what's in an official NBA 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.760 point at this at this point, what's an official NBA 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.600 ball at this point? Which one's the real one, which 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.920 one's the fake one? None of us know anything, Dan, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.000 That's all I know at this. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.520 This is what I'm wondering. You know, now, as we 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.240 move on, when a rookie scores his first points, does 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.200 he ask to stop the game so he can take 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.880 the ball out of the game. So he does, There's 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.560 no confusion in case somebody goes for you know, seventy 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:30.600 two points in a game. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.480 I mean, honestly, let let's just go MLB style and 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.520 you know, after after every time out, we'll get a 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.640 new ball in there. We'll scuff it up, we'll make 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.000 sure that's okay. If this is a free throw, you 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.360 grab it, throw it back out, get a new ball 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.600 in there. Like what, Let's just go for it. Dan. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.120 Do you think Giannis gets fined? 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:50.560 Yeah? 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.160 I think so. I don't think you can have the 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.000 situation where you know you're running into a tunnel and 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.560 making the scene. You know, when you were talking to 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.720 Rick Carla after the game, he mentioned that Pacers GM 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.320 Chabbu Cannon was in the tunnel and ended up getting 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.319 bumped during that. Chabby Cannon confirmed with everyone that he's fined, 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.680 and I don't think it's gonna be a serious injury. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.559 But again, just the look of it all, a general 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:21.600 manager kind of getting into It's not a scuffle, but whatever, 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:26.600 you know, some sort of physical altercation with a player, like, yeah, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.080 there's there's probably a fine gun. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.400 Can't wait until they meet what January first in Indiana. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.840 I mean, the beauty of it is it's January first 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.200 in Milwaukee and then January third in Indiana, A home 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.720 and home just I mean, it's gonna be lovely forty 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:44.280 eight hours. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:45.600 All the rivalry can. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.120 Be renewed and we can figure it out all over again. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:50.439 I can't I truly can't wait. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.160 Thank you, Eric, We appreciate your time. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.000 I'm sorry. I have no answers at all. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.760 Neither do we, Eric. Neither do we Eric name, the 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.840 senior writer for the Athletic covering the Bucks. Yeah, nobody 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.319 ever said we had answers either. I asked questions. I 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.840 don't have any answers. That's a good appearance by him, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.880 all right, some phone calls here eight seven seven three 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.480 DP show uh Nick in La Hi Nick, what's on 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:18.160 your mind today? 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:19.880 Hey? 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.960 I just wanted to make a comment. See if anybody 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:27.520 noticed about when Draymond dropped Nurkic. Nobody on the Suns 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.880 moved a muscle towards that guy. I mean, we've seen 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.960 a lot less and everybody makes a big, giant, pushing, 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.560 shoving freak out about it. That tells me a lot 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.520 about how they feel about that dude in the locker room. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.760 Because no one came to him, no one got in 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.880 Draymond's face, They just stood there and looked at it. 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.679 Well, I think you got to be fair in retaliating. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.160 As soon as something like that happens, usually of the 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.120 assistant coaches turn to their bench and make sure they 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.320 hold the players back. I don't know if that was 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.200 the case as far as teammates going up, but did 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.680 they say or do to Draymond Green. It is a 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.760 great point you bring up, but I think you're extra 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.920 careful I think nowadays in going up and maybe you're 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.440 inciting you know this moment here. I was kind of 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.040 surprised at the reaction by the Golden State Warrior spench 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.160 and even Steve Kerr is not really he's not even 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.959 looking at Draymond when it happens, and then all of 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.839 a sudden realizes. I don't think anybody's ever surprised where 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.559 they go, oh my god, did you see what Draymond? 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.720 Now it's yeah, you see what Draymond did again? And 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:37.880 now he's suspended indefinitely, And I don't know if it matters. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.680 Sometimes when you go, okay, the suspension has to matter? 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.440 Is fifteen games matter to Draymond? Green? Is the twenty games? 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:51.120 If he suspended for fifteen games, then you're basically saying, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:55.080 Golden State you're not going to make the playoffs twenty games? 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.040 Absolutely no chance. Does the league want to do that? 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:00.839 Now? 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.720 Let me play conspiracy theorist here, because the league loves 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:08.120 Golden State, because we still love watching Steph Curry play. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:14.520 Klay Thompson is not himself anymore. Draymond is interesting TV. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.760 Not gonna say mussy, but he's interesting. Do you want 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.280 to take him off the court? Do you want to 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.120 take Golden State out of the playoff picture? You know, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.640 is the punishment going to fit the crime here? Are 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.839 they going to punish him even more? Is it a 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.199 jah morant? Situation where it's like, Okay, enough, now we're 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.719 going to sit you down. Does he need help? Did 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.680 he need help before? So there's a few questions that 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:44.439 I have with this, and I think the indefinite suspension, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.920 it's almost like the league is given a little bit 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.240 of a hall pass. Now they can take in all 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.439 the opinions that are going to be out there, all 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.000 the writers that are going to be out there, analyst. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.440 This is what they did with John Moran. Everybody had 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.040 an opinion, everybody has an knew on Draymond Green. You 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:07.080 gather all that information and then you go fifteen games plus. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.199 Is the Players Association going to appeal this because your 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.960 job is to protect the players, but you have to 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:20.080 protect your players from Draymond Green while trying to stand 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.960 up for Draymond Green's rights. Good luck with that. Let 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.520 me see Mark and san Antonio. Hi Mark, what's on 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:28.920 your mind? 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.360 Hi Dan? Thanks for taking my call. Hey, you guys 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:38.079 were talking earlier about Brandon Aubrey as a possible Rookie 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.679 of the Year and it piaud my interest as far 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.200 as kickers or placekickers as rookies of the Year. And 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.720 it's happened three times in the past, which I didn't realize. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.800 But the first time it happened was fifty one years ago. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.800 What year was that? Fifty one years ago? Nineteen seventy three, two, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:03.880 two seventy two, Rookie of the Year, A kicker, Yeah, Holy. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.679 Jan Stener Root. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.440 Anyone else Jean was kicking? I think before that. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:18.440 Yeah, a young man out of an n A I 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.360 a college from Poland. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.400 Oh no, not Chester Markle. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.760 That is the man blue blue, and damn it. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:32.240 Mark gets too soon. No, it's bad now. And I 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.800 can't even get him a stat of the Day on that. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.280 That's that, that that hurts, That hurts, and you know 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.720 that hurts, Mark, Chester Markle cost me a bet Ackers 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.000 Bears Okay, the other two kickers, the other. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.040 Two kicks, Philadelphia, Paul McFadden. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.160 I wouldn't have gotten that one. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:50.840 Nope. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:57.360 Nineteen ninety two from Detroit, Jason Hanson. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.600 Yeah, I would have gotten Hansen. Okay, thank you, Mark, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.240 thank you. Stat of the Day brought to you by 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.760 PENAI America, the official Trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.280 Zach and Reno. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today? 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:12.800 Hey, good morning, Dan. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.320 I've got a gripe about NFL officiating. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:17.720 Get in line. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.760 We all know that playing so we all know that 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.480 playing penalty free defense in the NFL is next two impossible. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.840 It's sounding more and more likely that the NFL is 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.520 going to ban a tackle called the hip drop tackle. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.320 I think this is going to be met with criticism 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.880 that defenders are getting flagged for simply playing football. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.560 Just wanted to see if you have thoughts on this. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.440 Well, we're not going to be playing flag football. And 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.680 you know, the commissioner did talk about this type of 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.160 tackle that we saw on Tyreek Hill. You know, it's 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.240 like the horse collar tackle. Now you have this they 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.280 hip drop, and the commissioner has brought this up. I 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.000 just I feel bad for defensive players trying to understand 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.160 and what they can and can't do when they can 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.640 do something when they can't. You're flying at you know, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.680 one hundred miles an hour, and while we can watch 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.320 something even in real time and go oh, you should 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:17.400 be able to adapt to the situation. It's so fast 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.280 on the field and then you see slow motion and 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.400 a defensive player sacking a quarterback is not thinking, man, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.200 I just want to crush him. It's I need to 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.240 tackle him, not land on him. Be at the side 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.760 of him. Don't hit him up top, hit him in 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.960 a you know, an area the size of a mailbox. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.080 That's it. I mean imagine playing that way where you 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.320 have to be instinctive, but you also have to be 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.560 thinking in real time of did I lower my head? 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.720 Can I lower I'm gonna make helmet to helmet contact. 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.119 It happens so fast, Yes, Mark, it feels. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.520 Like holding a baby. Oh wait, wait, no, no, no, hold 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.400 his head, hold his head all right, bring him down 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.080 all right, right, swaddle him, take a nap, swaddle him 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:03.400 all right? 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:03.760 Yeah. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.359 Yes, Well, so there's a tag they're showing us the 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:07.800 other day. I think Van Pell was showing it. There's 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.879 a tackle towards the sideline where someone did a hip drop. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:10.680 Was it hurts? 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.119 They got hurt? And so what else you're you going 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:13.480 to do? 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:14.200 Do you you. 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.719 Can't uh, you can't uh you know, pile drive him 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.120 if you got him in your hands. Instead of slamming 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:21.520 him like they used to do. Now they do the 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.000 hip drop because you can't slam him. You're running out 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.240 of moves. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.400 But it's not that we're getting closer to flag football 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:37.480 it's it's giving the defensive player at least a little 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.879 bit of an advantage at some point, and they haven't 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.399 done that. It's gone the opposite. And I think, to 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.960 be fair, if I'm a defensive player. Now, this happened 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.760 when I back in the nineties, when I was doing 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.800 Sports Center, and I remember that a defensive back told 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.800 me the only way that I can make Sports Center 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:00.000 highlights is an interception, a sack, or I blow somebody up. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.080 And if you go back to the number of plays 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.000 back then where defensive backs weren't trying to tackle you, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.639 they were trying to blow you up. They would just 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.680 launch their body into you. Well, they've taken just about 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.160 everything out of this. When we see a big hit, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.080 we immediately assume somebody's going to get flagged for it, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.240 and it's not always the case, but it's, oh my god, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.520 he had to do something illegal if it ended up 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.600 like that, and sometimes it's just a great hit. I 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:34.760 don't know how Ronnie Lott would play today, don't. I mean, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.600 there's certain players that played on the edge. You know, 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.040 Jack Tatum played for the Raider. They couldn't. I don't 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:42.879 know how they would play. I mean they'd have to 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.080 learn to play differently. But Ronnie Lott was going to 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.840 hit you every single time he could. He wouldn't be 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.280 able to do that. Now take a break. More phone 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.920 calls coming up back after this Dan Patrick Show. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.680 Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.800 Patrick Show said nine am Eastern, six am Pacific on 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.679 Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.160 Polly Foosco here with Tony Fosco. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:09.640 Yo. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.760 Of course you know us as the host of the 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.080 number one rated show in all of sports talks, the 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:15.640 Paully and Tony Fusco Show. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:15.840 Ye. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.680 Now, the suits at Fox Sports Radio gave us this 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.840 ad time because they wanted us to tell you how 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:22.800 great our show is. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.640 Why Yeah, Instead of us doing. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.200 That, let's just let our millions of fans. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:28.520 Do the talker. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.520 Yeah, play the tape you don't. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.000 Know, crap about four O crap, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.840 That's the wrong tape, wrong tape. Just forget that. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.439 Look, listen to the Paully Tony Fusco Show on the 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.440 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.399 I don't want to start anything while perhaps starting something 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.560 we haven't heard if the Kansas City Chiefs are gonna 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:57.840 get fined for criticizing the officials, Andy Reid also Patrick Mahomes. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.879 Now keep in mind Deontay Johnson, remember last month he 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.359 was fined twenty five thousand dollars said the officials must 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.560 have gotten paid well today. Usually the players are the 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.560 ones who get fined if they questioned the integrity of 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.040 the officials, But this time Andy Reid did and Patrick Mahomes. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.199 I'm curious. It seems like Patrick Mahomes a is going 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.480 to get fined, but I would think Andy Reid would 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:28.280 get fined. I'm not sure what the weight is. Then 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.399 maybe they don't always announce it. I don't know, but 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.200 I'm just curious about that with the league office, Yes, 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:33.920 ton if. 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:35.000 They winked at it for whatever reason. 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:36.680 With Mahomes other than being the face of the NFL, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.880 because he's saying, you know, they're human beings. People make mistakes. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.640 But Andy Reid went all in saying that's embarrassing. He's 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.560 used that word a few times. The officials embarrassed the league. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:49.359 By the way, everybody has Caadarius Tony's back. Here's a 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.680 Patrick Mahomes talking about his wide receivers going into the 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.960 game against New England, just. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.600