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Speaker 1: hopes of spreading awareness to our listeners. So to my guests,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm well, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: All this little? I can't complain. I'm happy that I

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Speaker 1: Well what made you want to share your story with everyone? UM?

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Speaker 1: I want to share awareness. UM. Also because of the

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Speaker 1: to spread awareness so that way those who do know

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Speaker 1: So that was the main reason. What was the reaction

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Speaker 1: the comments and I'm like, whoa people are me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they can be cruel and mean, um, and he was

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Speaker 1: I was just like, Okay, how can you be another

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Speaker 1: I am not gonna refuse. Now, are you still married

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Speaker 1: and a half before me, So I just want to

428
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: get tested with her, just to you know, be supportive

429
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: with her. Plus UM sexually active. You're supposed to go

430
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: get tested every three to six months. Um. And then

431
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: he got on there and he he was nervous, and

432
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: I can tell he was nervous. UM. Oh no, I'm positively, yeah,

433
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm positive. Um, I'm positive. For his family now, and

434
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: nobody said anything. Nobody told me anything, and it really

435
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: hurt my feelings because it's like, you know, y'all people

436
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: supposedly care about me, but y'all don't care about me.

437
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: So it was it was really really angry. Oh, I

438
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: was beyond angry because it's like I've known, I love

439
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: his grandma, I love these people and I would never

440
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: put them in a situation where their health or their

441
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: life was at any kind of risk whatsoever. But for

442
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: them to do that to me, it really, it really

443
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: truly hurt my feelings to the point where I don't

444
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: even talk to none of his people none. Mm hmm.

445
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to have nothing to do with them

446
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: because they don't care about themselves. Let her know on

447
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: anybody else mm hmm. Um. I was talking to a

448
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: special unit victim a special victims unit UM, Atlanta Police Department,

449
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: UM about the situation with my husband because like I said,

450
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: I know, he knew, he knew, he was about to

451
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: go to jail. Officer told me, I have a decision

452
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: to make. Because I am his wife, I can't press charges.

453
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: But because I am his wife, I don't have to

454
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: press charges against him because I didn't contract HIV. Um,

455
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: you did? You did not? Did not. That's what I

456
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: was confused, because I'm like, wait, do she have it

457
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: or not? Because I I didn't under I didn't know

458
00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: if you had it or not. No. Um, honestly, all right, honestly,

459
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: I was blessed I didn't contract it. After being with

460
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: this man for over three years, sleeping with him, unprotected

461
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: and everything, I still did not contract HIV, thank god. Um.

462
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: But the the detective I told him about his family

463
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. The detective told me that's where

464
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: he gets it from as his family. That's exactly where

465
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: he gets his mentality and his narcissism. All that is

466
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: from the family. And I believe because his mama was

467
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: she's she one of them, right, So I mean that's

468
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: something I have to deal with as well. And I said,

469
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't really speak to them. Um, I don't feel

470
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: like I have to or need to. They don't care

471
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: nothing about him, nor do they care about me. So well,

472
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: in what way do you keep yourself safe? Because I

473
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: know you said in the video he has he also

474
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: has her fees and sitting and he had stiffness. Right now,

475
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I did contract sifflis mhm, I mean three pe penicillo

476
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: shots in my ass in order to get rid of

477
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: that selfless Um. Yeah, well I heard, I heard your

478
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: friend she said, damn right right right, Um. I I've

479
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: never contracted the herpes. I guess I was smart enough

480
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: to use condoms when they was. He didn't. We didn't

481
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: have set operates or anything like that, because I never

482
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: even noticed that he had it until we got it.

483
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Because once you get dike nosed and you go into

484
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: your you know, the clinic or whatever to get your

485
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: HIV drugs test on you to test for or the

486
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: other std S or s t I s that you

487
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: may have when you get there's only two ways to

488
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: really curious, through till the selling shots or through penicillin

489
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: um pills. I didn't want to take thirty days worth

490
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: the pills, so I only took the three shots in

491
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: my poor I mean, it's if you've ever had a

492
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: deuple shot. Then you know what I'm talking about. H

493
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: m hm, same thing, and then it it's the funcs

494
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: that the penicillan gives you gets rid of the simphilist

495
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: So I don't have simph list, I don't have herpes,

496
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't have HIV. I'm don't have any other kind

497
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: of std S or s T I S. I'm fully

498
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: healthy female. Um use condoms. Go to the doctor like

499
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: you're supposed to. I mean that's the main thing. Go

500
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: get checked up like you're supposed to. Yeah, there's preventive

501
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: measures so you don't get sick out here. And um

502
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: and if you were in the high risk relationships or

503
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: anything like that, they have a thing called PREP. Now,

504
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: I was on PREP for quite a while. Actually, um

505
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: I just recently got off prep, so that way I

506
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: didn't contract HIV. So m hm. Now I know you

507
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: are author. I'm gonna when we're gonna make I'm gonna

508
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: make sure I definitely tell everybody about your books. We

509
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: gotta support you. You have an m b A. I

510
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: think you have a license in real estate. You have

511
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: your own business. So why do you think you're still

512
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: in this relationship? Do you think you don't deserve better.

513
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: I do UM, I know I do, he knows I do. UM.

514
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: We have been separated for a little bit. Mm hmm.

515
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: But because I feel like I feel like this situation

516
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: is like you're kind of playing with fire a little bit.

517
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people say the same thing. I've had

518
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: the pharmacists pull me to the side and tell me

519
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: to run. I've had counselors tell me how lucky I

520
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: am that I'm not one of those statistics that catching

521
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: HIV I've had. I've had several people, family members, friends,

522
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: tell me to run. But when you get somebody you

523
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: can't is run away from them. And HIV is not

524
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: a deaf sentence anymore. Don't get me wrong. Don't nobody

525
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: wake up and want to catch HIV, at least nobody

526
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: that I know of. Um. And and there's still people

527
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: regardless if they have HIV regardless, and I mean to

528
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: the next tent, I kind of understand why a lot

529
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: of them don't want to tell nobody they have HIV.

530
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of scary when you come up to somebody

531
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: say hey, I'm HIV positive. You know most people are.

532
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: I hate to be like this ignorant don't know about

533
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: the disease irst and what they can and can't do.

534
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Don't know if you have taken their medicine like they're

535
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: supposed to, they can't spread it. But you know they

536
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: don't know this, so of course there's that stigma and

537
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: everybody's scared. I'm not scared to be with my husband.

538
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of him giving me any kind of

539
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: diseases because I know how to protect myself. I know

540
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: to go to the doctors. I know to use condoms.

541
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I know, you know, if he's having an outbreak or

542
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: something like that, we're not gonna have any kind of intimacy.

543
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: I understand all that. Do you think that because you've

544
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: been through so much? I mean, I've been through a

545
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: lot too, so I can only imagine the things that

546
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: you've been through, how exhausted it is. You think you

547
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: just might be tired? Good girl? Yes, yeah, that might

548
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: be a reason why you may that you may be

549
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: in this relationship. Um, I mean, I know you love him.

550
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take away from that girl. Tired and

551
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: even the word um right, and after so much, it's

552
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: not even being tired, it's just it's just being fed up.

553
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: You don't want to sit there and have to deal

554
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: with somebody else's bullshit. You're gonna go to the next

555
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: guy for him to tell you he's got seven kids, Um, tim,

556
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: baby mama's and you gotta deal with all the baby

557
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: mamas in the drawing with that and going in and

558
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: out of jail because this girl want to fight you

559
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: or calling you in the middle of the night. I don't.

560
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good. I don't want to go through nothing

561
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: else in life, and I'm already still just you know,

562
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: still going through it. So do you trust him? Absolutely not?

563
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: M You know that sounds crazy right in my amies.

564
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: I am, but after what I've been through with this man,

565
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: I'd be a damn fool to trust them. So no,

566
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't trust them. Um, honestly, do I think this

567
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: marriage will last? No? I don't. Mm hmmmm. Am I

568
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: gonna give it my all to try to make it last. Yes,

569
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: I think you have already. Yeah, I have, and I

570
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: don't get near as much appreciation as I deserved for sure.

571
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: But I mean I said, honestly, I don't think the

572
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: marriage will last. Even if it did, there's a lot

573
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: we got to work on. Um, he still needs to

574
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: be he needs to go see counselors because he's got

575
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: some serious addictions and habits that he needs to figure

576
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: out what he really wants in life. Um So I'm

577
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: not really sure where it's gonna go from here. I've

578
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: had a lot of people watch my videos and tell

579
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: me we were love an update and all this other

580
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: good stuff. But right now, I'm trying to just live

581
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: my life. Like you said, I have my own business. Um,

582
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm constant, non stop. I gotta stand here in high school.

583
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: I got a sophomore in high school. I mean, my

584
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: life is full. So well, how do you move forward

585
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: with forgiveness? Especially if the listeners in the same situation

586
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: that you've been at? Like, what does that look like?

587
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: And are you did you go to therapy? Know? I

588
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: have a really close friend named Alexis, and me and

589
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: her was going through it together with each other. Um,

590
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: and we take a situation too. No no, no, no no, no.

591
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: You don't even have nobody in Atlantic, right, ain't nobody

592
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: gonna right girl? Now, she wasn't going but she was

593
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: going through a breakup, and um, my pain was her pain.

594
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: And I mean we just we took trips together, laughed

595
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: and joke talk shit, and you know, to say how

596
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: much men we can't stand y'all. And no offense to

597
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: any man who's listening. I know they know they no, no,

598
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: not anybody come back, but absolutely not. I don't think

599
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: I need a therapist. I'm not crazy. I'm not the

600
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: one who needs the therapist. I promise you I'm not

601
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: the one who need the therapist. Um as far as

602
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: healing goes and forgiveness, UM, I don't not believe in God.

603
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: I actually truly am a spiritual person and believe that

604
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: there is a God. And I know in the Bible

605
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: it says you know who he is without sin cast

606
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: the first stone. I can't cast that stone. I have

607
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: my own, you know, skeletons and demons that I've been

608
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: working on myself. So I mean, I can't be like

609
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I hate him forever. Right as time goes on. My

610
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: dad always says, you know, if you'll get over it,

611
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: if you're still breathing, you will get over it, and

612
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: if you don't, you will end up in one of

613
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: those mental institutions like some of the rest of those

614
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: people who didn't get over it. So what what would

615
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: you say? Is the one thing that you learn from

616
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: this situation. Never to trust the man though, let me stop. Um,

617
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: well that was one of them. I'm not gonna lie.

618
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Never to trust man, But I don't trust woman either.

619
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't trust nobody as far as I

620
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: can throw them. But m h, it's up for your sister.

621
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't trust her that much either. She's weird though. Oh,

622
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't have to have some more conversations.

623
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't have to have more conversations. Yeah, yeah, But

624
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, UM, what I really learned

625
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: is that I'm not the only one going through this.

626
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm I have women and this is no joke. I

627
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: have women email me, text me, go on my YouTube

628
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: channel I and literally be like, I'm going through this

629
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: same thing you're going through right now? Can you help me?

630
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: And just being there for them women is is really

631
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: it's heart wrenching because you just know what they're going

632
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: through and I can't do nothing about it. The one

633
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: lady she told me she actually, you know, contracted HIV,

634
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: And I mean, what what do you say to somebody

635
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: like that, you know, because they go through so much? Yeah,

636
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: do you have any regrets? Yeah? I should. I never

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Speaker 1: got married I never got married. Um regrets as being

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Speaker 1: as far as finding out the truth. No, absolutely, not

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Speaker 1: making my anneal or write my book now, not being blinded,

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Speaker 1: and I guess you could say, um, not seeing the

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Speaker 1: whole picture, the red flax. Yeah, I wish I would

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Speaker 1: have paid more attention to that. That's the part I regret.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And I'm just curious how do you maintain

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Speaker 1: your joy because I can just only imagine how difficult

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Speaker 1: that these past few years have been for you, especially

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Speaker 1: seeing you in a car and he was recording, like

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Speaker 1: I I saw that anger, like I saw a raid.

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Speaker 1: You can't let nobody still you enjoy. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: what these folks want, right with the people on my

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Speaker 1: page and my YouTube channel. Some of the mean, nasty,

651
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: evil comments that these women leave mentor oh I got

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00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: the man folks that leave them nasty evil comments too,

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Speaker 1: those be the same ones. Like I said, I don't

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Speaker 1: even realize that's happening to them. M hm. And I

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Speaker 1: just started to roll off my back, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, None of them pay my bills, none of

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Speaker 1: them take care of my kids, none of them take

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Speaker 1: care of me. So it's like it's just an opinion.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has one, just like assholes. So I mean true

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Speaker 1: and last not least, what would you say to any

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Speaker 1: man that's listened to our conversation if he's living on

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Speaker 1: a down low m living your living those truth stop

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Speaker 1: being a panty put some big boy draws on. And

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Speaker 1: I mean honestly, the type of woman that you want

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Speaker 1: to be with may not like or accept it, but

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Speaker 1: it's better to living your truth to where you're not

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Speaker 1: hurting yourself or anybody else from somebody. That's the main thing.

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Speaker 1: How do you take choice away from somebody that they're

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Speaker 1: not able to make a decision for themselves. That's they

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Speaker 1: don't care about being in nobody else's shoes. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that now when I say they don't care,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't watched my YouTube channel, you need to

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Speaker 1: watch it because they don't care about you there, themselves

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Speaker 1: or nobody else that they hurt or do whatever they

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Speaker 1: do too. Like I said, I feel sorry for some

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: of these trans sexual women. These poor women be out

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Speaker 1: here thinking they're gonna get a relationship from these dudes,

678
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: and these dudes just used them. I mean, like I said, girl, yes,

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Speaker 1: the stuff I've seen, the people I've talked to. I

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: told you I found over two hundred numbers in this

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Speaker 1: man's phone. Mm hmm. I remember talking to a group

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Speaker 1: of um guys and women and transsexual women and trans

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Speaker 1: sexual women, and I asked them why they were sitting here,

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Speaker 1: you know, so listening my husband. I was like, did

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Speaker 1: any of y'all ask him if he was HIV positive?

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Speaker 1: One woman, transsexual woman said, you know, the fact that

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Speaker 1: that's a stigma in our communities is really sad, but

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Speaker 1: you're right, no, we did not. And I was like, right, So,

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Speaker 1: out of all of y'all who's met my husband for

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Speaker 1: one night stands, a quickie, etcetera, etcetera, maybe one out

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Speaker 1: of every two of you actually use a condom. So

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Speaker 1: the rest of y'all have literally you've been exposed to

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Speaker 1: HIV mm hmm. And that's two hundred people in in

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Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta, child, right, Oh, no, y'all should

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Speaker 1: have seen y'all should have seen it. When I say

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Speaker 1: go on kick, you can go on kicking any any

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Speaker 1: major city in the in in the United States, in

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Speaker 1: the in the UK, and you will find these download

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Speaker 1: websites and download I mean, just look it up. It's

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Speaker 1: on there, y'all. I ain't even gonna I might have

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Speaker 1: to make a new video just to update y'all so

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Speaker 1: I can show y'all of the stuff. Any of the

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Speaker 1: download man came at you. Um, I've had download man

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Speaker 1: come at me. I should have mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine what that was. Like. It's best

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Speaker 1: to know. And a lot of men will tell you

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Speaker 1: though I'm on the download or you know, some men

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00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: will tell you. A lot of them ain't gonna tell

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00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: you nothing. They're just gonna be on a dollar and

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Speaker 1: you're never gonna know. But a lot of men you'd

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00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: be surprised, like you would be so surprised that you

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Speaker 1: were like, really okay, mm hmm. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's not just Atlanta. I'm had a comment one time

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Speaker 1: about this guy and he's like, well, this is in

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Speaker 1: the UK and da So I was like, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: in the UK too, and I sent him a video

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Speaker 1: about it and how bad the HIV epidemic is in

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Speaker 1: the UK. This isn't just in the United States, This

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Speaker 1: isn't just in Atlanta, this is everywhere. I mean, hib

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Speaker 1: ain't got no look, thank you, thank you, don't they

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Speaker 1: don't discriminate. It sure doesn't. Well, I appreciate you. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna definitely keep you, keep you in my prayers. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna because God had picked him up the phone for

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Speaker 1: me lately, So I'm gonna definitely just could sure some

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Speaker 1: of my prayers with you because I really want you

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Speaker 1: to be happy, like I feel like, Yes, it's hard,

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Speaker 1: but I think you deserve way more. Thank you so

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00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: much and I appreciate it, and by all means, I

729
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: think I deserve way more too. We all need to

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Speaker 1: be billionaires. If you ask me right, I agree. And

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Speaker 1: if y'all have any questions, comments, or concerns or anything,

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Speaker 1: please make sure to email me and hello at the

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Speaker 1: PFD podcast dot com. And until next time, everyone Later bye,