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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com.

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Speaker 2: Really is on the phone today for our first day

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him see

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Speaker 2: if you'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her on another date. But first, literally, how long

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Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from Lucas?

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Speaker 3: Yea, so it's been two weeks exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, have you reached out to him?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like the guy she reached out for.

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Speaker 4: Okay, why do you want to get a hold of him?

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Speaker 4: Likeuse if it's been two weeks? Like, was the date

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Speaker 4: just like that good?

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Speaker 1: Well? I said it was okay, Like it wasn't that great,

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Speaker 1: But I thought I did everything right and he made

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Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of wondering why he haven't reached out.

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Speaker 4: Well, tell us and tell us about the date, Lily,

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Speaker 4: what happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I haven't been on a date in a while.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of like a homebody.

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Speaker 1: So my friends were saying that they needed to get

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Speaker 1: me out. They met this school guy in a neighborhood Barney, Lucas.

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Speaker 1: So I met up with him for a sangria and

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Speaker 1: apps at QBR and it was fun. But you know,

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Speaker 1: he talked about himself a lot. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: I did anything wrong because I didn't have time to

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Speaker 2: Kind of and you want to see him again.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that sometimes when people start talking about

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Speaker 5: themselves incessantly, it's almost a defense mechanism, right, like you

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Speaker 5: get kind of right. Yeah, so we had two different options,

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Speaker 5: and he was nervous or he's extremely arrogant. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure what was your take on that, Lily.

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Speaker 1: No, maybe I thought maybe he was nervous and maybe

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Speaker 1: I didn't react to him, like maybe I should have

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Speaker 1: saying a little bit more. I could have been more engaging.

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Speaker 4: So you think that would be that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I really would like to know.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of why I'm going in.

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Speaker 2: Well, tell us a little bit more about the date,

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Speaker 2: like was there any awkward moments or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, he wanted to split the bill, which I'm always

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Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know how I feel about that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a guy should usually pay. But it

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Speaker 1: So I was like, okay. But I also think that

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Speaker 1: when guys wants with the bill, it's kind of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: do you not want to see me again? So that

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Speaker 1: was one fine, but I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Read too much into it. I mean, we had, you know,

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Speaker 1: M h.

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Speaker 3: It was like a fixed out of him date.

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Speaker 2: Him, you still want to call him back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess my ego's a little bit hurt. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: So this is about the principle, not the date.

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Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, you're the buddy that had the nerve

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Speaker 5: to goes to me, and you want to know why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's why.

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Speaker 2: How did your date end?

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Speaker 1: You know, he hugged, he didn't try to go in

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Speaker 1: for like an awkward kiss, which I think is very

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Speaker 1: respectful on a first date. And again he said that

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Speaker 1: you know, flattered, and then he walks me to my car.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you said that you haven't reached out to

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Speaker 2: him because you think that he should reach out, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he also said that he was going to

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Speaker 3: reach out. She wanted to sing.

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Speaker 4: Had he reached out, Lily, would you have gone on

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to give people a second because, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was a little nervous.

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Speaker 5: They do say you should go on a date with

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Speaker 5: somebody three times before you make a decision about how

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Speaker 4: Science and my mother both say those things. I agree.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's what I've heard.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we'll play a song come back, and then

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Speaker 2: call him and see if you tell us why he's

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Speaker 2: ghosting you, and maybe get you another date. Okay, thank

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Speaker 2: you if you even want one. Maybe just be able

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Speaker 2: to find out why we're getting ghosted. All right, Well,

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Speaker 2: play a song, come back, get your first date, follow

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Speaker 2: up next. Right in the middle of your first date,

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Speaker 2: follow up, if you're just joining us, Lily is on

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Speaker 2: the phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy named

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Speaker 2: Lucas that she is okay with. I would normally I

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Speaker 2: say that I really liked but Lily doesn't really really

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Speaker 2: really like Lucas. She just wanted to date with him.

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Speaker 2: She's been getting ghosted for two weeks now, so we're

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Speaker 2: about to call him, see if I tell us why

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Speaker 2: he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date if

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Speaker 2: she wants one. But Lily, why don't you refresh everybody's

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Speaker 2: memory on your situation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 1: So I met up with this guy Lucas for like

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Speaker 1: a cute date, and he talked about himself a lot,

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Speaker 1: but at the end he said he really wanted to

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Speaker 3: And it's been two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right here we go. Hi, masked week to Lucas. Please. Yeah, Hey, Lucas,

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Speaker 2: how are you. My name is Jewbell and I'm calling

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Speaker 2: from a radio show. It's called The Jubil Show.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Lucas, I'm mean als on the show, Hi, and

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Speaker 5: I'm Victoria Thigs.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard the show before? No, Well, let me

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Speaker 2: tell you a little bit about it. It's a radio

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Speaker 2: show and then also with you a segment on it

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Speaker 2: called the First Aid follow Up, where if you go

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Speaker 2: out on a date with somebody and ghost them, that

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Speaker 2: person can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting them. So we got an

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Speaker 2: email about you from somebody you want to know who?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Okay, her name is Lily.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember Lily?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course thoughts on Lily.

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Speaker 6: Uh, she thinks I'm ghosting her?

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Speaker 2: M h are you?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't call girls after a date.

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Speaker 6: I wait for them to call me.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask why?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Because I don't like to play games, Like I

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Speaker 6: don't want a girl who plays games, so like, I

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Speaker 6: don't want to like how many days you're supposed to wait?

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Speaker 1: Not?

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Speaker 6: It's just a stupid game, and I don't need that.

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Speaker 6: So I want somebody who wants to hang out with me. So,

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Speaker 6: I mean, if anybody's getting ghosted, it's.

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Speaker 3: Me here, right huh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you like your date with her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: It's fine. She didn't seem like that. You know, I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I'm an open book me questions. You know, she didn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, it seemed like she wasn't into you.

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Speaker 6: Really, I mean it was fine, it was you know,

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Speaker 6: it wasn't It wasn't like a big spark, but it

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Speaker 6: was fine. Like I would go with her again.

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Speaker 4: Okay, That's what I was going to ask if she

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Speaker 4: called me if she did.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, okay, cool, Well, Lucas, Lily is actually on

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Speaker 2: the phone listening and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Hi. Oh oh hey hi Lucas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Hey, look, Lucas, she didn't more than call you. We

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Speaker 4: don't do too hey.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I mean this this feels like the game

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Speaker 6: dand all games. Man, I don't I don't think this

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a game player at all.

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Speaker 1: I was just really curious why you didn't text me

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Speaker 1: after you said you really wanted to see me again

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Speaker 1: and you were going to reach out.

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Speaker 6: You didn't text me either. I mean, it feels like

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Speaker 6: it goes both ways.

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Speaker 3: Well, Lucas, actually you're the one that's playing games because

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Speaker 6: I mean, you could just have texted. This feels like

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Speaker 6: you're doing games right back. I feel like this is

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Speaker 6: these are your games.

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Speaker 4: To get clarity and communication.

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Speaker 6: Look, I don't know what you want, Like, you didn't text,

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Speaker 6: you didn't say anything, so seems like you know want.

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Speaker 6: I want to be with someone who really wants to

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Speaker 6: talk to me. That's enough. That's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2: Don't you see it kind of as a game because

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Speaker 2: you didn't text either? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: What it feels like now you're trying to do mine games.

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Speaker 6: I'm just not interested in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not trying.

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Speaker 4: You're playing games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I think we're all playing games. But if

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Speaker 2: you want someone to like you, shouldn't you also like

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Speaker 2: them show them interest as well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm interested in everybody, So I'm looking for

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Speaker 6: people who are interested in me.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, How am I supposed to know that you're

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Speaker 1: interested if you don't text or call me?

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Speaker 6: Am I supposed to know you're interested? If you don't

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Speaker 2: He would you? Guys, i'd like to go on a

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Speaker 2: second date. We'll pay for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually I would?

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Speaker 2: Oh what you would? Yeah, Lucas, you want to go

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Speaker 2: on a date too?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Sure it sounds good. You're gonna pay for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So now do we both feel confident that the other

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Speaker 5: person is interested in the other person? Or do we

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Speaker 5: need to text again after this call to say I'm

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Speaker 5: interested and I want to see you. You can go

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Speaker 5: on the counter three, you can text each other at

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Speaker 5: the same time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it sounds like she's interested. That's what

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Speaker 6: I was looking for. So I think he solved it

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Speaker 6: all right.

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Speaker 2: And now Lily, you know that he was interested too.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad to find that out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, enjoy your date and you guys have a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about. I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck on that.

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Speaker 6: We should appreciate this out now. Then I guess you

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Speaker 6: want to text me only.

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Speaker 3: You know what. Sure, but you have to text me

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Speaker 3: back after.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that what you do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, deal, we got a deal, a very really

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Speaker 2: congratulations guys.

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Speaker 4: Juble's first date follow up