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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the hemrit Territory Podcasts

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Speaker 1: Episode one five two.

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Speaker 2: Le name is.

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Speaker 1: Brabrol and I'm joined as always by Scott Coleman. Scott,

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Speaker 1: you're order the weather. How do you feel? What's going on? Hello, Brad.

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Speaker 3: I am very much doing my best Michael Jordan flu

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Speaker 3: game tonight on the pod. But it's worth it because

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Speaker 3: we have a great guest on the podcast tonight. The

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Speaker 3: people love him a little. Behind the scenes, Justin Tiscano

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Speaker 3: is joining us tonight and Justin joined us I think

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Speaker 3: it was early January, and we did a lot of

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Speaker 3: podcasts this offseason, but the show that Justin was one

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Speaker 3: of our most listened and downloaded shows all winter long.

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Speaker 3: So the people love him and very happy to have

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Speaker 3: Justin on the show with some boots on the ground

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Speaker 3: down in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thanks for having me. That's uh.

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Speaker 4: I've been on twice now. That's two great intros. Guys

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Speaker 4: like to really good your mate, you're talking me up here.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 1: We'll try to talk you up. It's not difficult, honestly,

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Speaker 1: and nothing else. We can just pivot to the Arizona

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Speaker 1: versus Arizona state crotch. If we have to use that one,

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Speaker 1: we'll save it for later for if we need to.

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Speaker 1: But no, I mean, you're a Scott said, Justin's on

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Speaker 1: the ground in Florida. I am not there. Nora is Scott.

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Speaker 1: So we'll default heavily to Justin on this episode. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: But I guess to start things off, And it has

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Speaker 1: been I think seven weeks as we talked to you last.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of that, they did sign one big

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Speaker 1: ticket player in Jeryson Profar. Other than that, not much

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Speaker 1: has changed. But you know, they've been in Camp Noull

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Speaker 1: for a little while. The first full workout I think

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Speaker 1: was Tuesday. As we're talking on Wednesday night. What's the

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Speaker 1: vibe down there, justin, how's everybody feeling is it? Is

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Speaker 1: it upbeat? Like it's it's bring tray everybody, everybody's upbeat

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Speaker 1: to some degree. But what's the vibe down there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a little lower key, honestly, and I

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Speaker 4: can't tell if that's I try to balance my own

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Speaker 4: expectation with like, okay, like, what's the room actually?

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Speaker 2: Like, I think the room is very positive. The ViBe's good.

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Speaker 4: The vibe for all thirty teams right now is good

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Speaker 4: except I guess the boss of Red Sox somehow have

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Speaker 4: found a way.

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Speaker 2: To screw it up in a week. But the vibe

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Speaker 2: is good.

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Speaker 4: It feels low key, guys, because it feels like last

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Speaker 4: time last spring. So this time last year it was

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Speaker 4: like okay, world Series or bust from two.

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Speaker 2: Guys, two main pieces.

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Speaker 4: And I thought those comments were well warranted as a

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Speaker 4: member of the media, please keep saying stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the honesty.

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Speaker 4: But it's weird, Like you walk into that clubhouse and

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Speaker 4: that whole corner where Charlie, Max and Darnault used to

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Speaker 4: be like completely gone, Like you don't see south Asano

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Speaker 4: walking through the clubhouse. It feels quieter. Maybe that'll change

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Speaker 4: now that Arci is here, but it feels it's a

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Speaker 4: think there's a little bit of a room for a

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Speaker 4: guy like Olsen to be a little more vocal, or

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Speaker 4: a guy like Riley to be a bit more vocal. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: like I guess Pitchers can't have as much of an impact,

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Speaker 4: but a guy likes sale, like to be who he is,

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Speaker 4: and I think one of the underrated guys I mean,

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Speaker 4: one of those guys I think is going to be

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Speaker 4: good for the room. And Profar gives them guys the

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Speaker 4: edge that I thought they were missing from those two

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Speaker 4: very good teams in twenty two and twenty three that

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Speaker 4: did not have that edge for whatever reason, to carry

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Speaker 4: it through October. It's a good vibe, but I think

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Speaker 2: They've been noticeably more low.

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Speaker 4: Key of like okay, like let's not test the baseball

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Speaker 4: guys again.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Jerkson Profar a minute ago.

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Speaker 3: I know it's been maybe a week or so that

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Speaker 3: you've been able to be around him, but you know

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Speaker 3: your early takes on Profar and kind of what kind

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Speaker 3: of impact you think he's going to have on this team,

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Speaker 3: especially as a veteran who's been around the game for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I like the wide ranging experience. Matt Olsen's

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Speaker 4: always been good and this is nothing against those guys.

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Speaker 4: Austin Riley came up and was great, Marcela Zuna to

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Speaker 4: a degree, Acunya's a freaking superstar. Profar is a guy

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Speaker 4: who'd never really lived up to the expectations. And I

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Speaker 4: kind of liked that mix in a clubhouse right Like

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Speaker 4: It's like on the pitching side for years you had

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Speaker 4: a guy who's career he felt like his career was

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Speaker 4: that mix, Like I like to add that to the mix,

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Speaker 4: like a gritty guy who figured out some low half

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Speaker 4: good for the clubhouse. I mentioned the edge by all

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Speaker 4: accounts last year in San Diego, he was he kind

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Speaker 4: but they were really good friends, and so I think

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Speaker 4: certainly fit into a clubhouse with more stars and more personalities.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think it's gonna be you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna be too big at all.

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Speaker 2: And I like it.

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Speaker 4: He can't quantify it, but this is a guy who

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Speaker 4: fought with the Dodgers like three times last year. He

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Speaker 4: fought with the Nationals once. Like I think the Braaves

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Speaker 4: like need a little bit of that. Like I wasn't

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Speaker 4: Afar what it was like, what it felt like covering

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Speaker 4: those games after Jock got there and you know, after

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Speaker 4: it just felt like it was like her it was

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Speaker 4: was like the thing, right, It's like it's like there

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Speaker 4: were some good dudes on that team, but there were

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Speaker 4: also some dudes that are like, you know what, like

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Speaker 2: Like it feels like Profar as one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: It's like you know what, like I'm gonna celebrate and

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Speaker 4: I'm just loving the game and I'm having fun. And

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Speaker 4: I think they needed a little bit of This team

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Speaker 2: I love it, man.

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Speaker 4: And then like you hear like the pictures talk about him,

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Speaker 4: like Sale said, like he's just such a tough at bat,

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Speaker 4: Like he doesn't give in, like he's got a great eye.

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Speaker 4: H Schwellenbach said the same thing, like he's one of

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Speaker 4: those guys that like you kind of gotta make him

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Speaker 4: when I game planned against him, he was like, honestly,

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Speaker 4: it was like he doesn't really like Chase much. He's

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Speaker 4: I really think they needed a bat like that. Guys

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Speaker 4: like we saw Ozzie in the two hole a lot.

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Speaker 4: And this is nothing against Ozzie, but there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of free swingers on that team. I think they need

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Speaker 4: the guy who can get on base like this thing, guys.

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Speaker 4: I think, especially when Ronald comes back, like this thing's

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Speaker 4: you know, in quotes like I don't know, it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like dogging him, but he makes things happen. He's

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Speaker 4: I feel like they just needed more action up there

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Speaker 1: This is kind of a follow up to that, but

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Speaker 1: also is about what you said about, like that of

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Speaker 1: the vibe with the team and a little bit more edge.

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Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have you much a striker already,

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Speaker 1: Two guys that actually have edge already that weren't there.

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Speaker 1: So of the team that look and this is honestly,

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Speaker 1: because we're not there every day. This is part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why we love to have you wrong, but

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Speaker 1: giving those guys also the the big draws that they're

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Speaker 1: awesome at baseball, your best hitter or your best pitcher

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Speaker 1: arguably from the less couple of years coming back. But

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Speaker 1: both guys have a little edge strives a little bit

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Speaker 1: differ than Ronnie of course, but they're not they're not subtle,

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Speaker 1: they're not super quiet like you're Matt Olson's your Austin

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Speaker 1: obviously Ronnie's spoken. There was a lot a lot of

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Speaker 1: like what was that reaction like? And having him back

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Speaker 1: is obviously what he's what's his playing that's it goes

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Speaker 1: to speak for itself. But just being around the team.

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Speaker 4: So having those guys back around like Strider. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think having those two back is huge and as

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Speaker 3: And justin I know the Braves. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so my best guess, I think I think it'd

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Speaker 4: And then Acunya similarly, because especially because he's like ninety

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Speaker 4: He dude, he loves baseball, And like that's the thing

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Speaker 4: They like him, they like him, and you could tell

434
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 4: like snit's high on him. I mean, he's been around

435
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 4: these guys in terms of the catching group for a

436
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 4: couple of years now in big league camp, really developed well.

437
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 2: And he's a nice kid.

438
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 4: Like you can see, like you can tell like, okay,

439
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,160
Speaker 4: like of course, this is a guy that the pitchers love,

440
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 4: Like the pitchers like throwing to him, Like I think

441
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 4: I think it was Waldrip saying that the other day

442
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 4: that he loves he likes.

443
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,919
Speaker 2: Throwing to him.

444
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 4: They have a good relationship and you can tell, like

445
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 4: you talk to him and you're like, this is a catcher,

446
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 4: you know, like you can't you can't have rocks for

447
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 4: brains if you're a catcher, and you're like this guy

448
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 4: is like yeah, like I could see this guy leading

449
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 4: a staff. Like he's got that about him, like he's

450
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 4: got that it factor of like nice kid babyface.

451
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 2: But he's like he's like yeah, he's confident. He's like

452
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 2: got the body for the build for it.

453
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 4: And he's like I can see, like we're all the

454
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 4: buzz and then obviously like you know, the VP.

455
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: The just the physical attributes and whatnot.

456
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 4: I am surprised too, because I usually take stock of

457
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 4: I'll look at all the prospect things, But I like

458
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 4: how Fangrafts digs into guys personally, Like I really take

459
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 4: a lot of stock in what Fangrafts has to say

460
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 4: about a guy. So number eleven to me means a

461
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 4: ton and the love he got with like baseball perspectives too,

462
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 4: for me, carries a lot of weight. I'm gonna be honest,

463
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 4: like I thought he was a guy they could trade,

464
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: Like when we were going to the off season, I'm like, oh,

465
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: like this is the guy, like you got Sean Murphy,

466
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 4: Like this guy's gonna be used to get if they

467
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 4: want to get Crochet or to get somebody else. The

468
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 4: fact that he wasn't tells me a lot, because I

469
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 4: think there could have been some deals, Like I know

470
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 4: the Braves are in on Crochet and wanted him and

471
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 4: tried to get him.

472
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: There could have been some deals.

473
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Speaker 4: Maybe Baldwin was like, they're cutting off point and obviously

474
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 4: they don't have very many A plus prospects, and if

475
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 4: you have more A plus prospects, you're gonna be willing

476
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 4: to deal them more than a team like the Braves,

477
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 4: who has fewer A plus prospects. But the fact that

478
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: they kept him, says a lot to me. I think

479
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 4: they like that development. The only question I'd have in

480
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 4: the future is, look, if you want Murphy to catch

481
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 4: the line's share and make the most of that contract, Like,

482
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do it, Like even if

483
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: you bring him up in the summer, do you just

484
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,479
Speaker 4: is it sixty forty? Is it sixty five? You know?

485
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 2: Thirty five? Is it?

486
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 4: And they they're always big on the braves. They want

487
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 4: kids to play every day, like they want prospects to

488
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 4: play every day. You don't want to guy lose his value,

489
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 4: and you certainly don't want something to happen to him.

490
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: Guys were like not saying Smith Schober has no more value,

491
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 4: But the longer he's in Triple A and not the

492
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 4: rotation and not the big leagues, I feel like the

493
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 4: lower his trade value is unless somebody wants to take

494
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 4: a shot on him. You don't want that to happen

495
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 4: to a catcher like Baldwin, who's only you know, gonna

496
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 4: get later into his twenties. It almost feels like time

497
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: to you know what, or get off the pod.

498
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Speaker 1: Eventually, I was gonna say, the natural follow up is

499
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: exactly that. I mean, you were about to ask you

500
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: that question, but you just answered, and it's like, all right, well,

501
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: at this position, there's not a whole lot of flexibility.

502
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: And you know, all the messaging has been list that

503
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: I've read from people like you, But Murphy's going to

504
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: catch the most has ever caught in Atlanta this year.

505
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: That's the plan anyway. So when you have this guy

506
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: in trench that that you're paying, that you're hoping for

507
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: a bounce back on that's side long term, and then

508
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: you had this guy behind him, he's got you gotta

509
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: do someth then. And it seems like also some catching

510
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: prospects are not like married to catcher, if that makes sense.

511
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: But it seems like Baldwin is going to be a catcher.

512
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: Like there's value in his defense there too, So it's

513
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: not like he's a spot where it's like, all right,

514
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: moving to left field, go ahead and do that right now.

515
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: They don't want to do that. It doesn't seem like.

516
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: So it's very interesting kind of a to your point,

517
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: it's either make the move now or don't, or it's

518
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: a weird transition period potentially.

519
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the way you could do it is, honestly,

520
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 4: you've got Ozuna coming off the books next year. The

521
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: way you could do it is if I envision a scenario,

522
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 4: let's just say it's sixty five thirty five in his

523
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 4: first year, full year of the big leagues. I could

524
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Speaker 4: envision a scenario where, look, you give this kid every

525
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: day at bats. You'll shuffle him in at DH, get

526
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 4: him close to every day at bats. That gives him

527
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: time to be around the catcher's meetings a lot more,

528
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 4: and to be to not have to drink from the

529
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: fire hose in terms of the game calling, the receiving,

530
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: the working with the staff, knowing what cues guys like.

531
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Speaker 4: I think there's there's a balance you could strike in there,

532
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: especially because I think we all thought when the universal

533
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: DH came out that it was going to be like, Okay,

534
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 4: well you want it like to be like the old

535
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 4: school American League.

536
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: You just want a bopper in there.

537
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Speaker 4: I think teams honestly value the versatility more in terms

538
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: of opening up an extra roster spot to just kind

539
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: of shuffle guys around and get guys off their feet.

540
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: I think you could do that with Drake, And I

541
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 4: think at this point, like you said, Brad, like he

542
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: is a catcher, like he's definitely not one of those guys.

543
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 4: I don't think that's like and that's doesn't seem to

544
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 4: be the vibe where it's like, eh, he'll just like

545
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: he'll just be a DH or he'll play first base eventually,

546
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 4: like it at left field. It's like, no, he's a catcher,

547
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 4: and I think you could do it where, you know,

548
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: the Braves always said, look, you know Snitth's been saying

549
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: this for years, like catching is a two man job

550
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 4: in the modern day game, and there's all only one

551
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: real mudo, you know, in baseball, there's only a couple

552
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: of guys who could do it. I guess the plan,

553
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: I know, the plan for them before the injury last

554
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: year was for Murph to catch that many games last year.

555
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 4: So I guess Travis wouldn't have had as big of

556
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: a rule if they had kind of their ideal scenario.

557
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: So I guess that was their plan last year. But yeah,

558
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: you start to wonder, especially with the contract they gave

559
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 4: Murphy or could they eventually I don't know, like could

560
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: they eventually like trade him if they like Baldwin enough,

561
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, like if like he doesn't make

562
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 4: that much Like I'm not saying, oh, Braves are gonna

563
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: trade Sean Murphy, Like, I don't think that. I don't

564
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: think that's the case at all, Like they value Sean

565
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: Murphy a ton. I'm just saying that his contract isn't

566
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: such where like you have no flexibility. And I still

567
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 4: think like he's one of the best catchers in baseball,

568
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: like defensively, like the pitchers really like him and like

569
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 4: throwing to him. I think Atlanta could just have one

570
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: of the best catching tandems of the sport. Again, if

571
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Speaker 4: Baldwin pans out.

572
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the catcher situation Atlanta is fascinating.

573
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: And I mean, other than the Acuna and Strider comebacks,

574
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: those are probably the two biggest storylines for this team

575
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: right now. But I mean his third what kind of

576
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: season does Sean Murphy have, semi colon and what does

577
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: Drake Baldwin do, Because I mean across the rest of

578
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: the roster, there's a lot of certainty, or at least

579
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: as much certainty as you can have in baseball. I

580
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: mean that to me, it's it's clearly a top five

581
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: kind of storyline for the upcoming season.

582
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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, totally totally huge year.

583
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be I'm high on Murph just

584
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: because I like, I like the makeup, and I like

585
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: I like what he can do, like I think he

586
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 4: I'd like digging into some of his numbers, like he's

587
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 4: always for the last few years has had pretty good

588
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: exit velocity, like he's he's barreled up balls, Like I

589
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: like what he can do. He can definitely change a

590
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: game with one swing. He's one of those guys that, look,

591
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: if you need him to hit seventh, like, I'm fine

592
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: with that. I think the stop and go hurt him

593
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: a lot last year because I do think that is

594
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: really tough to get going and everybody's at one hundred

595
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: year at zero. It's like trying to get like live

596
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 4: at bats against guys who've been playing for three months.

597
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: And it's like I think, I think playing more regularly

598
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 4: is going to help him a lot. Now his body's

599
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: gonna need to handle that in a way it has

600
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: it since twenty since twenty two and twenty one. But

601
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: this is what he used to do with the A's

602
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: and now he's in his prime, Like, I think his

603
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: body's gonna be able to handle it, and that I

604
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: think that is as big of a storyline as any

605
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 4: because I always felt like they had certainty from that

606
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: spot when it was Murph and Travis last year. Like

607
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't really seeing the catching spot turning out how

608
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 4: it did last year. And granted you can't forecast injuries,

609
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: but yeah, at this point, like most of the rest

610
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: of the roster's stet right. I know, Alex said, I'm

611
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: pretty sure you guys discussed this, that they were going

612
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 4: to do a deal that would have pushed them over

613
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: you know, the tax and I know for a fact,

614
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: or at least somebody you know, I trust a lot

615
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 4: that there was they were going to. I can't say

616
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: it publicly, but they were going to and they were

617
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: thinking they're going to sign somebody, and then it didn't

618
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: you know, at the the last moment, it just it

619
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: didn't happen, but they had, you know, it was like

620
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: an offer kind of was out and so I do

621
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 4: know like that that was true, Like they could have added,

622
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: and they were very close to adding recently, I think,

623
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: even like after pitchers and catchers reported or around then.

624
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's like so other than that, I mean,

625
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 4: the only things you could really pick out or yeah,

626
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: it's like can you get through a month with Ianan Holmes?

627
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: And I think that Catcher one guys is as big

628
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: as any Like I I love Murph defense, but you

629
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: can't you know, I don't think you can get nothing

630
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: out of that spot.

631
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: You need, you need something.

632
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying it's got to be like twenty

633
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: twenty three first half, but I think and I think,

634
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: you know, Murph said last week like he was a

635
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: combination of things happened, but that he was pressing and

636
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: it was just hard to it was hard to get

637
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: back up to speed. He'll never make excuses, but that's

638
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: objectively difficult. And so yeah, they've they've got to be

639
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: better because it felt like last year they just could

640
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: never get traction in that spot.

641
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: And you alluded to the rotation a minute ago, and

642
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: again speaking of major storylines for the Braves in twenty

643
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: twenty five, but you had an interesting piece the other

644
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: day about two probably most prominent pitching prospects in the organization,

645
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: Hirst and Waldrip and the fact that he is reintroducing

646
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: his curveball and A J. Smith Shauver is also trying

647
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: to add a cutter to his pitch mix. So just

648
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: what you've seen and heard from those guys in the

649
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: early days of camp, and I mean it feels like

650
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: at some point this summer at least one of those

651
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: guys is going to have his name called.

652
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

653
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: I think those two are when you talk about, look

654
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: you need eight, ten, twelve starting pitchers in a season,

655
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: I think that's what you're talking about. And in years past,

656
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: like I still think Bryce Alder can give you something

657
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: good or something decent here or there. But you remember

658
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 4: when we had It's like they had Jared Schuster, Dylan

659
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: Dodd Elder and you're kind of shuffling through. I feel

660
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: good about the Waldrip Smith shoverson there. Waldrip, you know

661
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: he was saying that. I guess when they when they

662
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: got him in the system, they took out the curveball.

663
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: They figured, you know, work on the slider to play

664
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: better with the splitter and you know, off the fastball,

665
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: that sort of thing.

666
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: And now he's reintroduced it.

667
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: I know he's watched a lot of Garrett Cole, He's

668
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: watched a lot of Verlander, He's watched a lot of

669
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: Max Scherzer, who he likes because it's like you can

670
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: see the curveball a lot one day and then like

671
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 4: not really that much his next start. There's a lot

672
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: of versatility there and kind of changing up his mix

673
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: and uh, and I think smith Shover is gonna be

674
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: a lot better for what he experienced, you know in

675
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: San Diego and just what you know. But I you know,

676
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie like unless he learned from the

677
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: injury or developed during then like it kind of was

678
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: a lost season for him, right, So you wonder like

679
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: where he's at, Like you wonder like can he rein

680
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: it in Like the guy's got great stuff, a great arm,

681
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: Like can he rate it in Waldrip? Like same thing,

682
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: like is he gonna walk for better as a game?

683
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: Like if not, he's probably gonna go well. But you know,

684
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: but if the walks are still high, he's got more

685
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: developing to do. I'm not here yet, but at the

686
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: very worst, I think Waldrip's a very good reliever, Like

687
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: if it doesn't pan out in the future, Like, I

688
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: think he's got the great stuff and a great one

689
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: pitch in terms of splitter, like the Braves when they

690
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: drafted him, I know, like their scouts thought that pitch

691
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: was an out pitch then, uh, you know, in the majors.

692
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Uh, But I.

693
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: Still I still like Waldrip. There's a thought process behind

694
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: what he does. I sent some of the different guy

695
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: than Strider obviously, you know, you know, in different backgrounds

696
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: and you know whatnot. But I sent some of the

697
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: same thought about pitching right and thought about intentionality. And

698
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: one thing, I think it's interesting like when the kid

699
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: was in high school, Like he came up with his

700
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: high school strength program in Thomasville, Like he read some

701
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: like strength training books and watched some videos from these

702
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: like pro strength trainers, and he's like, hey, coach, like

703
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: we should be doing this, so like here's why we

704
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: should do this, so like he would like he was

705
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: very diligent about that stuff. And it almost reminds me

706
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: of like the the constant edge somebody like Strider tries

707
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: to get. Like I see some of that in the

708
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: Wall Trip. I think he's gonna be successful. I could

709
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: just be dead wrong and somebody will post his clip

710
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: in five years. But I like him. I'm high on him.

711
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: I need to see Morris Smith shopper because I know

712
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: he's got a great arm, but here and it just

713
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: it hasn't seemed like he's been able to rein it

714
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: in uh, but then again, he really you know, it's

715
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: like I asked him the other day, It's like, it's

716
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: kind of weird. He really hasn't been pitching for that long.

717
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: First of all, you're assuming that people actually listen to

718
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: this podcast. It would pull the clip to show it

719
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: back to the five years. I hope that's true shouts for listeners,

720
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: but they they do no. So, you know, those guys

721
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: are interesting, and you already mentioned I think they I've

722
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: been kind of whispering that maybe they could even have

723
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: in the bullpen this year if they had to at

724
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: some point, because there's nothing, nothing that says you can't

725
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: send a guy there and then bring it back the

726
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: start again. It's happened before many places. Many young arms

727
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: have gone there first. But speaking of the bullpen, I mean,

728
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: but a lot of focus on that on this podcast

729
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: as well. We talked a lot about the bullpen recently.

730
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: It's not the picture you know, grabbed the screenshot of

731
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: the list of names. It's not the sexiest group outside

732
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: of the first four or five guys. They brought him

733
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: Buck Farmer, who I was excited about. I have a

734
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: connection to Buck Farmer, so that was nice to see

735
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: he's a real picture, but he's still a minor league

736
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: contract with a sprint training invite. Lots of opportunity, it

737
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: seems like, is that the word that everyone's trying to

738
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: use right now is like just open spots down there?

739
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, is it really a battle? Like how committed

740
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: are they doing? These guys?

741
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

742
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think to a degree it's a battle, right obviously,

743
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't think it's just like throwing stuff at

744
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: the wall, because I think there's some guys who have

745
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: an inside track, you know, just based on situation. But yeah,

746
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: it's like that's been the word. It's like a lot

747
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: of opportunity, like the most opportunities in the bullpen, or

748
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: like Glex is like we'll take the best aid, or

749
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: Smith was like you know, yeah, we got a good

750
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: mix of names there, and you know whatever.

751
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: You it's something like we don't really.

752
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: Have to deal with a lot of his reporters covering

753
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: the braves because like like last year it was like

754
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: what seven names you knew seven of the eight and

755
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: the eighth was just gonna be like okay, who's the

756
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: long guy you know to start the year. And this year,

757
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: look you got Iggy obviously closing. Uh, Pierce is going

758
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: to have to take a lot of those eighth innings,

759
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: I would think, Uh, Dylan Lee, I think he's got

760
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: to take a step.

761
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Dylan Lee's a.

762
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 4: Very important, low key, very important player for them this

763
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: year in my opinion, because I think he's got to, like,

764
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: he's got to take a step in high leverage. I

765
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: don't see another way. Uh, you know, Bummer is going

766
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: to be very important. I think Bummer got Honestly, Bummer

767
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: got caught on the wrong end of some things last

768
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: year luckwise. But I like the name of the game's

769
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: preventing runs.

770
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: I get it, but I do think I don't know, man,

771
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: it did seem like there.

772
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: Were a lot of bleeders and some some well placed

773
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: ground balls that got Bummer.

774
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: So you got those four right.

775
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: Here's how I see it playing out after that Day's Bell,

776
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: who they've talked up for months and he's been in

777
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: the bullpen before, made the season roster a couple of

778
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: years ago.

779
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: In a surprise. I think Dasbell makes it. That's five. Uh.

780
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: The one thing that peaked my I guess when you

781
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: know when you're a porter, like you keying on things

782
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: and whether they're correct or wrong with your intuition.

783
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: They make you think things.

784
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: And one of those things for me was that Smit

785
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 4: said Buck Farmer, he kind of he portrayed him as

786
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: this multienning guy, and he was. He's a multienning guy

787
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 4: who can you know, he started before and he can

788
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: fill that role. Guys, to me, that screams long Man

789
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: out of the bullpen while you need to use Ian

790
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: and h while you need to use Ian and Holmes

791
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: in the rotation to start the year, right, I think

792
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: Buck Farmer will be in that bullpen as a multienning

793
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: guy to do kind of whatever they need. I think

794
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: I thought Chase and Shreeve was really interesting as a

795
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: lefty with major league experience, but I don't. I don't

796
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 4: think they're going to add another lefty. I think they'll

797
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: go with onhelp Perdomo. And the reason why is like,

798
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: you know, re having last year you know kind of

799
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: you know, on their dime and whatnot, and he's out

800
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: of options. That's the big thing with him, Like, look

801
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: like the guy had great numbers, some good numbers in Pittsburgh.

802
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh was too cheap to let him rehab on their dime.

803
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: The Braves might benefit Like this guy, like Brad, Like

804
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: walking past this guy is how I imagine it is

805
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: for you, like covering the Hawks, Like this guy is

806
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 4: like a true like six seven, six', eight he's he

807
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: is a big. Dude and you, KNOW I i THINK

808
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 4: i think they could have something there With, Perdomo Like

809
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: i'm excited to see how he is when it comes

810
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: to you, know more lives and spring games and the regular.

811
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: SEASON i think he makes.

812
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 4: It and Then Anderson polar had some good, numbers The

813
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: rule five guy From, miami he had some good. Numbers

814
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: the REASON i think they probably take a flyer, on you,

815
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 4: know they probably have him for one of those spots

816
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: is you never, like, yeah like fifty thousands not that

817
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 4: much to you, know to pay back or to pay you,

818
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: know the first. Place but it's like if you're going

819
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: to take a guy in The rule five, draft like

820
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: you you think he's got a decent shot at the

821
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: time right of being like on the, roster AND i

822
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: think with, him they like his numbers and you, know

823
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: The Winter, league he's really good his. Numbers he had

824
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: a really really good walk rate in the miners last

825
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: year that was really noticeable and, again like if he's

826
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: not on the, roster they lose. Him SO i, think

827
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: Like alex set it up already where he, said, like

828
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: look there there might be a lot of, churn AND

829
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: i think that's what it's gonna. BE i think this

830
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: bullpen On april, first but a lot different than it

831
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: is On september, First october, first and so. On BUT

832
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 4: i think there's some guys, there AND i think if

833
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: it they, need they Need days be able to step.

834
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: Up they Need Dylan lee to step up like they.

835
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: Need those are two guys that you absolutely need for,

836
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: leverage especially how snit talks About Dylan lee not being

837
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: just a matchup left because he's got that slider too

838
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: and just his. Mix, uh they're gonna need. That that

839
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: position group is going to be. Interesting BUT i get

840
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: the sense That perdomo And polar are going to be

841
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 4: in uh you, KNOW i don't think they'll carry the

842
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: Other rule five, Guy, cairo but BUT i Think polar

843
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: is going to be in.

844
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: There it kind of feels like for the first time

845
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: at least since you jumped on the beat justin like

846
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: there's some legitimate battles. Here like you said a moment,

847
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: ago we basically had seven relievers in pen this time

848
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: of season ago and this year we have four of,

849
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: them maybe maybe. Five when he said on the on

850
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: the show the other, night it doesn't make sense to

851
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: Send dave's fell back To guinett once, again like just

852
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: just see what he can. Do he has the live,

853
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: fastball a lot of swing and. Miss but even if

854
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: you really believe In, dasbell that's three legitimate bullpen. Questions you,

855
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: know we'll. See and then, similarly you have is it

856
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: your understanding That Ian anderson is a virtual lock to

857
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: be in the rotation short of him just getting absolutely

858
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: pummeled this spring because he's out of options and it's

859
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: kind of like why not see if there's anything?

860
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: Left totally, yeah especially because he's out of. Options he

861
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: did so much for them years. Ago, uh he rehabbed with,

862
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: them and it's one of those things Like alex, especially

863
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: teams will try to do, this But alex especially is

864
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: a huge preserve your depth at all cost, guy and

865
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: he will make decisions based on that knowing, that, like,

866
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 4: okay like If ian's got to go to the bullpen

867
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 4: after you, know When strider's, back you keep him and

868
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: whatever you can do, that or you can if he's

869
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: eventually on the injured, list you bring somebody else up

870
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: For alex is a huge preserve your depth, Guy, like

871
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: preserve your.

872
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: Depth at all.

873
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 4: Costs it drives if guys are remotely, Close it drives

874
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: a lot of those. Decisions AND i, think, yeah to your, Point,

875
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: scott like bringing that up like anything short of him

876
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 4: just getting schalcked in.

877
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: Spring like it would need to.

878
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: Be LIKE i think he's pretty much a, lock, Right

879
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: like you're gonna see what he has, there and in your,

880
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: head if you're The, braves you're, like, okay you've Got

881
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 4: AND i found this interesting, too speaking In keenan on.

882
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: THINGS i don't know if you guys noticed this the other,

883
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: day but standing, THERE i noticed two different Times alex

884
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 4: brought Up holmes before he brought up being or brought

885
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: Up holmes only and Not.

886
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: Ian that was a big.

887
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: Thing that was, INTENTIONAL i, Think and that's what he

888
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 4: said at one, time, Like, hey the Reason i'm mentioning

889
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: him was, because look like you kind of get the

890
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: upper hand when you pitch well for us last year

891
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: and you're the most recent. Guy so if you're The

892
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 4: braves in your, head, right you're gonna be, like, okay,

893
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: like if this doesn't work, out like we can just

894
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 4: Move ianto the bullpen and then he throws the crap

895
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 4: innings for you and he fills a good role there

896
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: whatever it. Is if it does work, out then, great

897
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: you got Like, mork you got another good starter. Again

898
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: and if, eventually if it doesn't work out at, all then,

899
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 4: okay well you lose him and it didn't work. Out

900
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: BUT i think and this was the previous, regime AND

901
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: i know the previous regime was very very high on

902
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: end obviously based on where they took, him AND i

903
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: know they remained confident in, him like you, Know Brian

904
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 4: bridges just you, know even when after he was. Hurt but,

905
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: uh you don't want to your number three overall pick or.

906
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: Whatever you don't want to you don't want to just

907
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: give up on that. Guy HE'S i think he's got

908
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: to be in.

909
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: THERE i would be.

910
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: Shocked you're not going to go to a guy with

911
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: options if you don't need to use that guy with?

912
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: Options, Right like we why burn an option until you

913
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: need to burn an?

914
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 4: Option, uh if you've got you've got these two starters

915
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 4: and you've spent All winter trying to add to the

916
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: rotation in a way that would be substantially better than

917
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: Either Ian anderson Or Grant. HOLMES i think you roll with.

918
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: Him that's a lock for, me, Man, YEAH i.

919
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: AGREE i mean kind of like like you, said in

920
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: the fact That ian was a third overall, pick the

921
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: last thing you want to do is bail early and

922
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 3: then let him sign with you, know like The Cleveland,

923
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: guardians who are a pitching, factory and all of a

924
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: Sudden ian is a really good number.

925
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: Three that would be a black.

926
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: Eye, yeah, Exactly AND i think a different. Situations so

927
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: Like Kyle wright had that, resurgence But kyle's injury was

928
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: like was like perforated like holes in his, shoulder like

929
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: a capsule, injury and it was like that's how.

930
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: He described, it as like perforated.

931
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: Holes and you could, see LIKE i tried to ask

932
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: about this at the, time you, know and didn't get

933
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 4: a ton of an, answer but like you could, see

934
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: based on the way The braves handled that trade and

935
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: just not giving him that forty, spot not paying the

936
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: cheap arb, salary that wasn't really going to go up

937
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: that much, after you, know during the rehabber anyways for

938
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: the next. Year you could see that The braves didn't

939
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: believe that he would be the same with his. Shoulder

940
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: you could see that the medical folks very clearly, advise like,

941
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: yeah and With, ian It's Tommy john surgery, Right like

942
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: this IS i hate to say it because it sounds

943
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: so like robotic and, monstrous but like this is. Normal

944
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: like guys are going to have one or two of

945
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: these in their, Career like with the way they throw,

946
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 4: now a lot of guys are going to have. Them

947
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: he could very well be better for what he, experienced

948
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: especially like mentally he's focused on kind of locking in some.

949
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: Things uh and, yeah like you, Said, Scott Ian anderson

950
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: is the perfect like oh you dfad him like he

951
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: goes To cleveland or oh you know, What like we're

952
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: The rais and we would really like to have him

953
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: and see him pitch to a THREE E r for.

954
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: Us LIKE i Think ian's got a little something. LEFT

955
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: i need to. SEE i need to see a little

956
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 4: more because a lot of his postseason STUFF i, remember

957
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: at least watching From, afar it was like six hits

958
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: and like three you, know like the he he walked.

959
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: The tight rope a little bit here. There but the,

960
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: guy the guy.

961
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: Definitely has got the, stones you, know in the big,

962
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: moment and he wants. Them AND i he seemed as

963
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: motivated as. EVER i remember how motivated he was last

964
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: year coming off of that to prove he was he

965
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: was gonna make you, know he was eventually going to

966
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: be on the team and make.

967
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: Starts didn't happen for. Him he hit a wall toward

968
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: the end of the.

969
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 4: Year Uh, so he understood why the team went With Smith,

970
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: shopper but he was. Disappointed he was disappointed that they

971
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 4: went To Simu shava for that post is a, game

972
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: AND i think there's a lot Of ian that's more

973
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: field and more motivated than he's been in a, while

974
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: because it's like he's pitching for the first time in

975
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: a couple of.

976
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: Years you.

977
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah and you, KNOW i think on this, show

978
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: we have all been frustrated to varying levels about the

979
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: lack of moves other than jerks and profar and you,

980
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: know a dozen minor league free agent tryouts, basically BUT

981
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: i can at least see the vision and you, know

982
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: If strider's going to miss a, month then you do

983
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: Let ian get five or six starts and you see

984
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: how he, does and presumably some are going to be

985
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: against good, teams some are gonna be against bad, teams

986
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: and you just kind of re evaluate maybe three or

987
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: four or five weeks into the season and, Go, Okay

988
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: ian has an era in the, threes he looks, back

989
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: or he has an era in the fives and he

990
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: can't get through a lineup a second, time then maybe

991
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: you you, know you figure out a way to whatever

992
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: your next course is going to.

993
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Be, yeah oh.

994
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely and the THING i was gonna mention about the

995
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: bullpen that kind of slipped my mind AS i was

996
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: rambling about those, guys because it's the most we've had

997
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: to talk about the bullpen in like three. Years is

998
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: the same thing, Here LIKE i hate to say, it

999
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: like knock on. WOOD i don't know if people can hear,

1000
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 4: that but the injury. Bug these things all like the

1001
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: Thing i've learned covering, baseball especially one thousand percent of the,

1002
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: time these things sort themselves, Out like there will be

1003
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 4: a guy who gets injured and then you need Both

1004
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: ian And holmes And strider's in, there and maybe It's

1005
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: lopez on the aisle or Maybe sales on the aisle

1006
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: or maybe you, know god willness doesn't. Happen but If

1007
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: strider ever had a, setback you still Need ian And.

1008
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: Holmes there's so many things that could happen WHERE i

1009
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: just feel like there's gonna be so much. Opportunity and

1010
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 4: like you, Said, scott it's LIKE I i think that's

1011
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: exactly what you. DO i think you've got to Give

1012
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 4: ian a little bit of, Runway LIKE i hope for

1013
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 4: his sake he gets at least like four starts three,

1014
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: stars you, know to kind of see like, okay like

1015
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: get his feet under.

1016
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: Him the last thing you want to.

1017
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: See is the guy not continue to develop because if

1018
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: If holmes pitch as, Well strider comes, back If ian's

1019
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 4: the odd man, out BECAUSE i, know like they Think

1020
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: holmes has legit like plus, pitches, yeah and If ian's

1021
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: odd man out like, that REALLY i think about his.

1022
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: DEVELOPMENT i know it's you, know what's best for the.

1023
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: TEAM i get.

1024
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: IT i get, it but it's like as a baseball

1025
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: fan and like a Like i'm curious to see how

1026
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: this guy comes, back AND i hope we get to

1027
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: see more than like three starts of, It LIKE i

1028
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: want to see How ian adjusts to even you, know

1029
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: like being back From Tommy john and you have the

1030
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: wall he hit last, year and, LIKE i think there's

1031
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: a lot Of, yeah you can evaluate after four, weeks

1032
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: you can evaluate after five. Weeks and to that, POINT

1033
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: i know they tried to add in the rotation a

1034
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: couple different times this, winter and we're particularly close on

1035
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: something that didn't work.

1036
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: Out but.

1037
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: So that tells you That alex deep down thought that

1038
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: they need to improve the, rotation or at least he tried.

1039
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: To he thought that was enough.

1040
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: Of a priority to look into doing.

1041
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 4: So AND i think that's the part of you that

1042
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 4: knows that even as he, says and you guys should

1043
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: probably played the audio on this show of like even

1044
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 4: as he, says, like, well look we Got strider come,

1045
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: back he Replaces.

1046
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: Freed If home can Take morton, spot you, know then

1047
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: we Have anderson and da da da da.

1048
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: Dah alex always knows you need more, pitching, Right like

1049
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: that's the one, Thing like he always knows you need more,

1050
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 4: pitching and that's it's it's a big. Thing and SO

1051
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: i know they tried to add to the rotation and

1052
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: that was a. Focus stuff didn't get, done but you,

1053
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: KNOW i don't think it was for lack of, effort

1054
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: AND i just think eventually these things will sort themselves.

1055
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 4: Out but as like a baseball, FAN i kind of

1056
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: want to See ian get a little bit of.

1057
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: Runway LIKE i don't want that.

1058
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: To Mean strider has a setback that anybody gets, hurt

1059
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: BUT i just kind of want TO i don't want

1060
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: to see this guy's development. Stunted where now it's, like,

1061
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: oh this once promising postseason hero is now.

1062
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: Dfaid you, know, YEAH.

1063
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean you said it. Already but a lot of

1064
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: things working. Out but you, know with the way that

1065
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: they've Treated sale And lopez and start coming, back then,

1066
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: bye maybe they maybe they go with six for a,

1067
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: while like just to GET i, know there's there's different

1068
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: ways they can do. This this is kind of the

1069
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: moral of the. Story it seems like there's there's FLEX i,

1070
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: mean the word flexibility has can be a boogeyman, sometimes

1071
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: but also you, know it's also true Like Grant holmes

1072
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: could be it could be in the bullpen at some

1073
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: point because they, look, honestly it works. There he was

1074
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: great in the bullpen last. Year there's things that they

1075
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: can do back and.

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00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: Forth, oh, totally, totally and that's WHAT i was thinking

1077
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: a lot like What scott was laying that. Out at,

1078
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 4: FIRST i was, like you know, WHAT i think there's

1079
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: a part of me that Thinks grant could be in

1080
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: the bullpen because as much AS i think he could

1081
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: throw four good, INNINGS i almost wonder if like his

1082
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: best role is like two innings in the middle of

1083
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: a game or something. LIKE i really like his, stuff

1084
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: and LIKE i almost wonder like if he doesn't REALLY i,

1085
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: mean he's not throwing like a, hundred but it's like

1086
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: if he doesn't have to save himself for a fourth a.

1087
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: Fifth and the other thing you got to think about starting.

1088
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: Is is last year The braves Needed holmes to make

1089
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: some of these spots starts get us through. Four if

1090
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: you're in the, rotation like you got to be pushing,

1091
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: SIX i mean at, least you, know at Least and

1092
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: that's like the one thing to like saving the bullpen

1093
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: like to that, point especially when you're not gonna have

1094
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 4: as much certainty there right. NOW i think the best

1095
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: case scenario For, atlanta as much as Like holmes is

1096
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 4: such a great story, too is that you Have ian

1097
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: in the rotation because he's spinning, it and then you

1098
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: Have holmes in the bullpen to give you kind of

1099
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: like a one inning or multi inning role there with

1100
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: some versatility and based on being able to be you,

1101
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: know to come in and be that fireman sometimes Like

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00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 4: Jesse chavez, Was, LIKE i Think grant did a great

1103
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: job at that last. YEAR i think that's a role

1104
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: he's proven that he suited. FOR i wonder if there's

1105
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: more value in that than there would be in making

1106
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: a four inning start or a five inning start or

1107
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: you know. Whatever but we just haven't seen him go deeper.

1108
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: Yet AND i, YEAH i just think you could have

1109
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: him in the. Bullpen there's a lot you could kind

1110
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 4: of do with, this and it's gonna hinge on, first

1111
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 4: like how Well ian. Does, HONESTLY i think they could

1112
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: Just grant could just be that. ROLE i think Putting

1113
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: ian in the bullpen is probably a waste of a

1114
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: roster spot more so than it would be Putting grant

1115
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 4: in the, bullpen WHICH i think adds some real value

1116
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 4: to your.

1117
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: Team BUT i, mean they, like you, know they Like.

1118
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 4: Grant he's getting the, NOD i guess in their own,

1119
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 4: heads you, know ahead Of ian right.

1120
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: Now So we'll see how it shakes.

1121
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: Out but it is one of those things where you

1122
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 4: know you do want them to see them, prioritize you,

1123
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: know protecting that, bullpen you, know on the back, end

1124
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: not knowing who's gonna.

1125
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Cover you, Know Pierce johnson can't cover the eighth every.

1126
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: Night and to your, Point, brad Like i've thought about that.

1127
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 4: Myself it's, like is a six man rotation? Possible BECAUSE

1128
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: i haven't looked at all the off. DAYS i know

1129
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 4: there's one before the home, opener but you've got so This,

1130
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: april you've got trips To San diego IN La you've

1131
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: Got tampa And, toronto and you've Got phoenix In. Denver

1132
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: like that's brutal like for a first, month and depending

1133
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 4: on how the days line, up LIKE i, DO i

1134
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: wonder if they could start because you got to remember

1135
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: they would go go and sail like every you, Know

1136
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: ronaldo every seven days last. Year, yeah at the start of,

1137
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 4: season it was like once every week with how the

1138
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: off days lined. Up AND i Know snip made a

1139
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 4: comment the other day about just like he'd be surprised

1140
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: with sail And.

1141
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: Ronaldo he's, like, honestly, like, well we'll probably just do.

1142
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 4: It, Similarly he's, like because it worked out so well for,

1143
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: us AND i think it. Did the balance is just

1144
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: you have to find, out like how to get guys

1145
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: peaking In september and you know. Whatnot BUT I i

1146
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: think there's a chance that could even do that six

1147
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: man rotation or working a guy with spots, starts and

1148
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: that allows you to keep you, know to not have

1149
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: to whether it's Taking polar off the roster or somebody.

1150
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: Else that allows you to to kind of keep your

1151
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: depth in the bullpen. TOO i, Mean Daz beell is

1152
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 4: going to be an optionable, guy but you need. HIM i,

1153
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 4: MEAN i think he's going to be like. You they've

1154
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 4: talked him up since the, fall, really and so there's

1155
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: a lot of there's a lot of maneuverability they could

1156
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: go with AND i do or if they just do

1157
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: that bite the bullet on that six man. Thing but

1158
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 4: especially now because the one guy who loves to go

1159
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: on five, Days freed is no longer. HERE i don't

1160
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: know If strider would be, like, OH i need to

1161
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: go on five, days or If sale would be, LIKE

1162
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: i Mean, sale they were given extra rest, anyways but

1163
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: Like freed was like that where he's like he he

1164
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: like he was just more comfortable going every five rather

1165
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: than like an extra day of. REST i wonder now

1166
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: that if he's not, here if like the other guys

1167
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: would be comfortable with, that especially as you Work strider

1168
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 4: back into the fold.

1169
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: Flexibility, well just we're gonna let you get out of.

1170
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Here BUT i do have one one non baseball, question

1171
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: and it's About it's about what it's like to live

1172
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: In florida basically for seven weeks In february And. March

1173
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: how do you what's your? Setup like we obviously see

1174
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: you right now if you're watching. It, yeah but are

1175
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: You are you a hotel for seven?

1176
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: Weeks?

1177
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Guy are you an? Airbnb? Guy what's going on down?

1178
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: There So i'm in a hotel this time for half of,

1179
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: it and Then i'll do an airbnb usually we've.

1180
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: Done we did a house the last couple of.

1181
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: Years this ho tels NICs be cause it's only like

1182
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: twenty minutes from the, facility whereas somebody's houses because it's

1183
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: all spread out here like In inglewood And Port charlotte And,

1184
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: northport like some of these houses like thirty thirty five

1185
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 4: minutes away from the, parks you're getting up at like.

1186
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: Every day both, Lives oh my.

1187
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: God and then you're.

1188
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: Driving so you're driving to dinner like thirty minutes unless

1189
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: you want, to you, know unless you're getting one of

1190
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: the mom and pop places right next to the house

1191
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: or something on the little. Strip but it's like it's

1192
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: like you're driving thirty minutes to get to any like.

1193
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: Civilization so it's, no it's it's. Crazy the first, YEAR

1194
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: i did a hotel BECAUSE i was here for minor

1195
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 4: league camp my first year on The, beat and then

1196
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: the lockout, ended SO i kind of just stayed in

1197
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: that hotel for, like, dude it was like twenty eight

1198
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: days or something like that in a, row AND i

1199
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 4: went home and THEN i, come, yeah oh, YEAH i

1200
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 4: LOVE i love me some. POINTS i love me some.

1201
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 4: Points it's it's funny, Though LIKE i almost feel like

1202
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 4: if you told me in college i'd be doing, This

1203
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 4: i'd be like pretty. Sweet LIKE i remember like my

1204
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 4: first years on The Mets, BEAT i was like this is.

1205
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 4: SICK i was, Like i'm In florida for six. Weeks

1206
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 4: somebody pays for me to, eat somebody pays for me

1207
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: to stay. Here the weather's. Terrific which ISN'T i, MEAN

1208
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: i guess it's cold In atlanta, now but it's not

1209
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: as much of a problem as it was when you

1210
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: live In New york and then could go down To

1211
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 4: florida to finally breathe for a couple of.

1212
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: Months but, man IT'S i Love. Florida it's.

1213
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 4: Awesome spring training is funny, though because it's Like Groundhog.

1214
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: Day it's like the same day every. Day you wake

1215
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: up at like, six try to get your workout, in

1216
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: go to the ballpark access in the. Morning you got

1217
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: the games, after you, know after the, workouts, obviously you

1218
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 4: got the. Games after workouts, end it's games and then

1219
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: you're like. Driving it feels like In florida, specifically Like,

1220
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 4: SCOTT i, know you know, this, man you could Go Cactus.

1221
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 4: League you could drive to all those places and span

1222
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: it two hours a one day and you, know put

1223
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: a postcard on each of them and oh my, god,

1224
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: man the bat of like three. Hour i've went To

1225
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 4: lakeland a couple of years. Ago i've went To lakeland

1226
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 4: two years in a. Row, actually, dude THAT i four,

1227
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: man those guys on this, Beat dob And, bowman those.

1228
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: Guys that was no joke when it used to be

1229
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: In orlando and Then kassime And lakeland were like the closest. Ones,

1230
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: man that that travel was was no joke On high.

1231
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: Four those boys. Were those boys. Were that was.

1232
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 4: Probably back in the day before like podcasts really became. Big,

1233
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: man those they got a lot of use out of

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00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: their iPod shuffles back.

1235
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: Then, scott anything you want to add for, lejus get

1236
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: out of here you're.

1237
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: Doing we will save Our arizona And Arizona state smack

1238
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: talk for off. Air oh, Man i'm sure we have

1239
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: just millions of very vested wildcats and sun devils. Listening but,

1240
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: uh that's. Right but, yeah justin you're the. Man thank

1241
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: you for taking. Time i'm sure you just said you

1242
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: very busy days we. HAD i, mean, shoot we got

1243
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: brave spring training games starting in forty eight hours when

1244
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: most people and THAT i mean that begins the grind

1245
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: of what like one hundred and ninety some odd games

1246
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: plus whatever you're going to have in. PLAYOFFS i mean

1247
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 3: it is baseball is here. Officially oh it's all, yeah

1248
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: thanks for having. Me, No i'm always happy to be.

1249
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: ON i wasn't.

1250
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: SO i love like the part of spring training before

1251
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 4: the game start because you're just doing the, workout you

1252
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 4: get out of there.

1253
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: Early SO i worked out like.

1254
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: Twice, today LIKE i got a second lift In like

1255
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: it was, Awesome LIKE i was just Like i've been

1256
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: at the hotel Like i've been. CHILLING i was waiting

1257
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: for you guys to. Call, uh this is, awesome BUT

1258
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 4: i WILL i will. BE i will be on The

1259
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: Fort Myers express in a couple of days and then from,

1260
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: there my. My you know all need to get gas

1261
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 4: every like five. Days probably it makes.

1262
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: Sense, well people should be checking out your work at

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00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: THE ajac anything else you want to Plug justin in.

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Speaker 4: twitter and Blue sky for those who like either one of.

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Speaker 2: Them uh, yeah, yeah that's THAT'S i think that's. IT

1267
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: i think that's.

1268
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: It but thank.

1269
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: You well Follow justin's. WORK i, know we definitely. Do

1270
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: we read everything that you're writing and following On twitter

1271
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: and Blue sky all those, places but we appreciate your.

1272
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Time we'll have to have you back on if you

1273
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: have time at some. Point you'll be much busier now

1274
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: for a little, while but we'll try to beg you

1275
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,320
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1276
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,560
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1278
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