1 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, I can't help but think somewhere out there, 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: one of the administrative types, one of the college football 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: sweater vests, has to be thinking themselves. You know, if 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the Super bowls this weekend, maybe we could make college 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: football's national title game the weekend after that. What says 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: we can't just play to February? Hey, why not just 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: bump the national title game right up against spring football? 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Why not just play year round? And for those of 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: you who think I'm joking, I think I am. I'm 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: pretty sure I am, But then again, I never know. 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday's jokes become today's reality and college football, as Mimo 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: used to always say, So, we got the playoff calendar 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty, what six and twenty seven seasons yesterday, 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: and everyone laughed and then they realized, Wait, this is 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: the real one. Hold up, this is the real one. Yeah, 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: so we're going to talk about that this morning slash 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: afternoon slash night. What is this? By the way, this 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: is not a normal show. Is it doesn't sound like 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: the normal intro? Well, once upon a time we started 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: a show called Late Kick. When I came up here 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: from Columbus, Georgia, and I was at twenty four seven 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Sports at the time, and I was recording three nights 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: a week during the season, like we still do, and 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: then we bumped it down to two nights per week 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: during what a casual would call the off season, but 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: we don't believe in like we still do. And about 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday of every week, I would think to myself, 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I got some stuff to say. 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I want to talk to 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: the folks, you know, because that's what we call our audience, 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: the folks. And I just started recording what we call 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast at the time. There's really 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: no video component to it. You can't even find it 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel. It just showed up in the 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: podcast feed, and it would be sort of what you're 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: about to listen to, this wandering, meandering, just stream of consciousness. 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I kind of ask what you guys want to talk about? 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: You guys kind of find out what I want to 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: talk about some of it, probably most of it's college football, 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: not all of it, and then we spell out into 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: various sectors of society. And that's when the show gets 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: really dangerous, but it always hops back up on the rails. 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing here today, and so there 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: really is no structure here. It's kind of like you 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: and I are sitting down at lunch and we're just talking, 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: and I'm going to pretend that I know what you're 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: saying back to me, but we're just talking. And what 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about right now is 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: the fact that yesterday the College Football Playoff put out 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: their calendar, put out their dates for the upcoming couple 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: of seasons. Longtime fans of the sport, anybody who even 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: knows how to spell the word tradition, will be horrified 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: to know that we're gonna have quarterfinals for this upcoming 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: year that take place Wednesday, December thirtieth, and then Friday, 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: New Year's Day. I don't even know what doing on 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, don't ask me, but we're gonna play 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a quarterfinal game. So that's the second round of a 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: four round tournament. We're gonna play a quarterfinal game on 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: December thirtieth. That is a Wednesday night quarterfinal game for 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: those of you keeping track at home. We will then 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: play the semi finals January fourteenth and fifteenth, and we'll 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: play the national title game and I'm not joking here, 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: although it is a joke. January twenty fifth. So if 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: you're Oregon, let's say you may play a semifinal game 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: on the thirtieth, and then play a game on the fifteenth, 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and then play a game on the twenty fifth. There's 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: nearly a month between the quarterfinals and the national title game. 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Now you may be thinking to yourself, well, that's bad, 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: But if I know the college football playoff like I 70 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: think I do, it could get a whole lot worse. Right, 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: you would be right. So I pull out the trusty 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Pate State calculator yesterday, because I mean, if you got 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: a season lasting that long, then you want to know, Well, 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: how long is this season lasting. I'll tell you how 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: long it's lasting. I want you to think in terms 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: of entire season. I want you to think about when 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: the season starts. Think about when week one is. So 78 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: this year, week one, I think is the weekend of 79 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: September fifth, and I'm checking this in real time. Yeah, 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: so September fifth, that's the Saturday of week one. A 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: few teams play Week zero, but the entire season for 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: everyone will have started week one September fifth. All Right, 83 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: your national Championship game is Monday night, January twenty fifth. 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? If you don't, let 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: me tell you. Saturday November fourteenth, that's week eleven. By 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the way, what is significant about Saturday November fourteenth A. 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: It's my sister's birthday. But it will surprise you to 88 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: know that's not what I'm talking about here. B. Saturday 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: November fourteenth, Week eleven. That marks the mathematical halfway p 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: between Week one and the National Championship game. I want 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: to remind you at this point, you know what, Before 92 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: I remind you of anything, I want to let that 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: breathe for effect. Five four three to one. All right, 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: now that it's settled in, Week eleven is the halfway 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: point mathematically of the season this upcoming year, which is 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: off the wall, insane, just totally out in another galaxy, insane. 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: I want to remind you some teams are done already. 98 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: I think there were some G five teams whose seasons 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: ended November eighteenth or so last year, So we will 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: have some teams whose seasons are done right after. What 101 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: is the mathematical halfway point of the year. Why is that, Well, 102 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: it's because the playoff is longer, and it's not even 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: just that the playoff is longer. Okay, yes, that is 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: a culprit, but it's not the only culprit, because, as 105 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: we detailed what last week two weeks ago, we're not 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: alone on this. There is a way to have a 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: four round playoff that wraps up on New Year's Day 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: or shortly thereafter. I did get some pushback, you know, 109 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: when we put our plan out a few weeks ago 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: that had a national championship forever enshrined on New Year's Day. 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Some people were saying, well, we want to float that 112 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: around a little bit. Hey, I don't care if you 113 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: float that around. You could go whatever that weekend is 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: for the NFL playoffs. I think that's the divisional round 115 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: or maybe the wildcard round of the playoff, and you 116 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: could have it that weekend. Either way, it's the first 117 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: week of January and your season's done. But you would 118 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: have to start your playoff the first week of December, 119 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and you would have to play games pretty much every week, 120 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: and you could take a little bit of a break 121 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: for Christmas. That's how you'd have to do it. But 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: for those of you out there asking, well, that sounds great, 123 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: why not do that. Well, it's just because you're too 124 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: simple minded, you know, you could not possibly think at 125 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: the level of the college football sweater vest type, the 126 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: college football administrative type. These are people who structure everything 127 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: in the sport right now. These are people who have 128 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: built this calendar here, and really, what our issue, excuse me, 129 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: not our issue. What their issue is is the elephant 130 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: in the room. The elephant in the room is the NFL. 131 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: The NFL owns a lot of the broadcast window and 132 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: therefore a lot of the inventory and a lot of 133 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: the landscape of December, and you're having to work around them. 134 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: And it's always been the elephant in the room. I 135 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: don't talk about it a whole lot on the show 136 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: because it really doesn't pertain to fans, but it does 137 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: pertain two fans now because it's impacting how we experience 138 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the game, how we watch the game. So I find 139 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: it interesting that at the Super Bowl Week news conference 140 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: this week out in Santa Clara or San Jose or 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco or there's like a five hour radius around 142 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl week of events out there, judging by 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: how long it's taken people to get around way, I 144 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: noticed Roger Goodell, NFL Commissioner, had his weekly press conference. 145 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Most of you probably didn't watch this, and that's okay. 146 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: That's what you pay me for. That's what I'm here for. 147 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm here to do the stuff so you don't have 148 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: to do it. And one of the things that I 149 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: did is I was riding around Brentwood, Tennessee, yesterday, I said, Hey, 150 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: I wonder what Roger Goodell said this week. So I 151 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: went and listened to it. Now, of course I'm not 152 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: a savage. I did put it on one point seventy 153 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: five speed and I listened and most of it didn't 154 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: pertend to college football. And then someone from Front Office 155 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Sports hat tip Front Office Sports. They asked about the 156 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: different messes in college football right now, and they asked 157 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: about the lack of any kind of guardrails and the 158 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: lack of rules and accountability and enforcement. They asked about 159 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: nil and their questions sounded a whole lot better than 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: me paraphrasing it here. But anyway, they asked Roger Goodell, hey, 161 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: could all of this turmoil in college football ultimately hurt 162 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: the NFL? Really good question. It gave Roger Goodell the 163 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to go many different ways with it, and I'll 164 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: tell you which way Roger Goodell went. He said the 165 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: requisite we always have a good working relationship with college football, 166 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But then he said something that was 167 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: really interesting that I think applies here. He said, we'd 168 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: be happy to help. I'm paraphrasing him too, We'd be 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: happy to help. But basically, they got to reach out 170 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: to us. If they need help, they got to reach 171 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: out to us. This is our lane over here. We're 172 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: in our lane. If college football needs our help, we'd 173 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: be happy to do it. We'd be happy to open 174 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: the door and let him sit on the couch for 175 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: a little while if they need to come in. But 176 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: they got to knock. College football hasn't knocked. That is 177 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: one of the least surprising headlines that I've heard in 178 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: recent years. College football needing all the help in the world, 179 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: not the least of which is needing the help assistance 180 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: and cooperation of the NFL. Hasn't even seen fit to 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: ask the NFL for help. So what we have here 182 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: basically is college football in one lane. They can't get 183 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: their act together, they can't enforce their own rules, they 184 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: can't figure out whether they want to collectively bargain with 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: the players. They can't figure out whether they're going to 186 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: get anti trust exemption from Congress. They can't figure out 187 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: if they're going to pool their own television deals down 188 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: the road. They can't figure out any of that. But 189 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: they also haven't reached out for any kind of guidance 190 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: or help from the NFL. My imagination leads me to 191 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: believe that if they haven't reached out on those fronts, 192 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: they probably also haven't had the stones to reach out 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: on this front coordinating with the NFL. If you have 194 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: to paying the NFL some in exchange forgetting some of 195 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: the TV windows that you would need to structure your 196 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: playoff where we don't stretch the thing almost into March. 197 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: That's just a hunch I have. I'm just working on 198 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: a theory over here this morning. So yeah, with that, 199 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: we're off and running on what I am now calling 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: the Paate State Extra podcast trademark. All of that's trademark. Oh, 201 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: what are some other things I wrote down that I 202 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about? Do you know what today is? 203 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: If you're listening on the day that I recorded this 204 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: at least, and that's up to Mitch to get it 205 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: out to you on time. I trust that he will. 206 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Today is Wednesday, February fourth. Speaking of calendar, you know 207 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: what this day technically still is, but what it really 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: used to be, and that's National Signing Day. 209 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: Now. 210 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: I know that we have a very very vast high 211 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: school slash college aged audience, and it is always my 212 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: duty as the future Commissioner of the Sport and also 213 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: as the chancellor here at Peyton State, to inform you 214 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: that it used to be greater than it is now. 215 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Not all things fit that description. Some things are great 216 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: right now, some things are better than they used to be. 217 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Signing Day just does not happen to be one of 218 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: those things. Signing Day used to be a pillar in 219 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: American society. It used to be an institution. It used 220 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: to be really, really incredible, and now it's kind of 221 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: an afterthought. Even within some football programs. They're not even 222 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: really waking up this morning remembering it Signing Day. But 223 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: what I want to do is I want to take 224 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: you back. We don't have to go back too far. 225 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: We're not going back to the fifties or the sixties. 226 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: Just go back fifteen years. So if you're in high 227 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: school right now, technically you were probably born. If you're 228 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: in college right now, yeah, you were born. I don't 229 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: know that at four years old, you were subscribing to 230 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: message boards, and you were scrolling Twitter looking for updates, 231 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: and you were following official visit rumors. Maybe you were 232 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: if you were, hats off to you. I know that's 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: how I spent my fourth year on this earth, but 234 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't expect that from everyone. But if you were 235 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: a little extra credit there. I gotta tell you, though, 236 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: I really wish you guys could have experienced it. If 237 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: you are of a high school college age right now, 238 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: I wish you could have been just a little bit older. 239 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: I wish you maybe could have been born just a 240 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: decade earlier, just for this exit. So maybe if we 241 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: could live in an alternate universe for this, so you 242 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: get to keep your youth as long as you can 243 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: in the real world, but in the alternate universe you 244 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: kind of get to play it out. I do this 245 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: all the time. I wish that I could keep my 246 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: current self, my current age. But then I wish I 247 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: could simulate in an alternate universe what it would have 248 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: been like if I were born in nineteen seventy four 249 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: or something like that and get to be a teenager 250 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: in the late eighties early nineties. Anyway, that's mainly for 251 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: pop culture reasons, but for college football reasoning, Let's say 252 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: you were nineteen or twenty years old, the year is 253 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, twenty eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. 254 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: That's kind of the golden era of recruiting as I 255 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: define it, because that's the era where you've still got 256 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: the fax machines humming on signing day. National signing Day 257 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: is still National signing Day, so there's no early signing day. 258 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. NIL doesn't technically exist. Everything's under 259 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: the table, everything is heresay, everything is rumor. And also 260 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: the money isn't astronomical. Therefore, if any school gets really desperate, 261 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: any school can afford to pony up five or ten 262 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: grand to go pay a kid. But really, with no 263 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: portal the way you know the portal now, with no NIL, 264 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: the way you know NIL now, with no early signing day, 265 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: the way you know early signing day now, that first 266 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday in February was sort of it for talent acquisition, 267 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: that was it, and by and large, the kids that 268 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: you signed on National Signing Day. That was going to 269 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: be the bulk majority of your roster three years down 270 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: the road, four years down the road and the kids 271 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: you were signing. Yes, money in some cases played a part, 272 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: but it was a different galaxy compared to what it 273 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: is now, where there are many recruitments out there that 274 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: are just pure transactions. Back in the day, even if 275 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: money changed hands, Like if you had a recruitment coming 276 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: down to the wire and it was between LSU and Alabama, 277 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: or Georgia and Florida, or Ohio State and Michigan, it 278 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: it came down to the kid committing to the university. 279 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: It came down to that kid picking Ohio State because 280 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State's way of doing things and their staff and 281 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: their culture and the vibe and everything that is Ohio 282 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: State football appealed to that kid. And you took immense 283 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: pride in that. Is a fan, especially if you went 284 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: to the school as an alum, you took great pride 285 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: in that because that was kind of the ethos. That's 286 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of what's woven in to your attachment to the 287 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: University of South Carolina. When Jadeveon Clowney chooses to stay 288 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: in state and commit to South Carolina on signing Day. 289 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: This was late twenty's, early twenty teens that I remember 290 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: these things vividly. I remember individual recruitments vividly, and I 291 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: remember I was just out of high school at this time, 292 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: late two thousand, like mid to late two thousands. I'm 293 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: just out of high school, so I am college age 294 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: at that point. And I remember I loved Christmas, Thanksgiving, 295 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: love it. Easter is always on a Sunday, so you're 296 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: never having to really work that around your job anyway. 297 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: But I remember that I always had a game plan 298 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: for National Signing Day because I'd never use sick days 299 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: or vacation days. I never use them today. I actually 300 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: have never used a vacation day. I think I used 301 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: a week of vacation for my honeymoon. That's it. I 302 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: haven't used another sick or vacation day since twenty twenty, 303 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: so I really don't ever use them. But I would 304 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: strategize back then and I would have a game plan 305 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: for making sure I can miss work on National Signing Day. Now, 306 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: the strategy here was very simple. What you want to 307 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: do Tuesday morning of National Signing Day week, so signing 308 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: Day Eve, you want to sneeze a couple of times 309 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: in the morning. Now, since people know you never get sick, 310 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: they notice when you're sneezing, and then you go to 311 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: lunch and when you come back from lunch. You really 312 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: got to be selling. You're selling the idea that as 313 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the day goes on, your feel is going downhill, your 314 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: health is going downhill. You're not feeling great. Now you're 315 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: fighting through, and you're selling the idea that you're fighting through, 316 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: and you know the cough. You make sure they hear 317 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: it from another room. You make sure the eyes look 318 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: a little glossed over. You have that far away look, 319 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: like the lights are on but no one's home sort 320 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: of vibe, and it's all building towards four o'clock to 321 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: five o'clock, that last hour, you start dropping the hents. Man, 322 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to get home and get in bed. 323 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Oh if not felt good all day, I don't know 324 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: what's wrong with me. I'll be fine. I'll be fine. 325 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: You need to say I'll be fine at least three 326 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: times during the four to five o'clock hour, because you 327 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: have to plant the sea for the next morning somewhere 328 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: between six thirty and seven thirty. If you got to 329 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: be there at eight o'clock to send the text or 330 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: to make the call, and you got to plug your 331 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: nose while you do it. It needs to sound a little 332 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: something like this, Hey. 333 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: Bob, Yeah, man, I'm not making it in today. I 334 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: don't know what's wrong with me, Dude. I gotta get 335 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: back in bed. I just can't do it today. I'm sorry. 336 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'll make it all up. But yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, okay. 337 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it, man, I know, I know I 338 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: hate it too. All right, bye, boom. You just secured 339 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: yourself wall to wall coverage of National Signing Day uninterrupted. 340 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: It was the biggest holiday of the year for me. 341 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: It was the most important day of the year for 342 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: college football fans. And you think I'm joking, and I'm 343 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: not joking about this. What the NFL Draft Night one 344 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: is for anybody who follows pro ball. That was what 345 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: National Signing Day was in college football, only it was 346 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: better in college football for people like me because I 347 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: love college more. But number two, because it feels like 348 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft, everything is sanitized, everything's on the 349 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: up and up. You get to watch the combine like 350 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: you've got fully fleshed out reporting everything's public, like there 351 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: are very few things hidden. Everything's visible. In the NFL. 352 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: In college football, the recruiting trench warfare, and especially back then, 353 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: recruiting was nothing but message board rumors and random callers 354 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: into a talk show that claimed to have a source 355 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: on things, and then you find out, Wow, well, is 356 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: it the kid who's going to make the decision or 357 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: is it the uncle or is it the mom? And 358 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: where did he take his last official visit? And what 359 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: do our insiders on our respective team message boards claim 360 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the vibes were on the visit. And then you've got 361 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: the dead period or the quiet period, which kicked in 362 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: like Sunday at midnight, leading into that Wednesday, and that 363 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday, those final forty eight hours, you're just 364 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: getting whispers and rumors and so and so was on 365 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: the phone with Miami's staff last night until after midnight, 366 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: and so and so got the last in home visit. Oh, 367 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: it was great, guys, and you're just working on a 368 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: mountain of rumors and you can't substantiate any of it. 369 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: It was so great, and there were so many lives 370 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: flying around, and people built their hopes up only to 371 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: have it crash and burn. I mean what you would 372 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: do is, if you're a Tennessee fan, you know your 373 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: remaining targets, and so you know what time during the 374 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: day on Wednesday their announcements are, and so you would 375 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: go to your message board the night before, or you 376 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: would go to your favorite team website and you would 377 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: get a rundown. Okay, we're in it for this five 378 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: star linebacker. He announces at nine to forty five am 379 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: he's going to have a signing day announcement and a 380 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: press conference at his school. And you would be looking 381 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: at these grainy any internet feeds that were really choppy, 382 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: and sometimes they would freeze and the audio would be terrible. 383 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: And then maybe if ESPN was going to cover one 384 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: of the high profile recruitments, you'd have a kid with 385 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: an earpiece in and it was never coordinated ahead of time, 386 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: and it was always a complete disaster. So you may 387 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: have hats on the table, and you may have people 388 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: gathering there in the audience, and you'd be watching the 389 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: live stream. If the announcement starts at nine to forty five, 390 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: but they go live at nine point thirty, you're just 391 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: looking at the auditorium fill in and you're trying to 392 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: read clues which hat looks the newest, which ones have 393 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: the bent bill and they're not fitted, which means his 394 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: mom picked him up at a gas station because he's 395 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: not actually picking that school, but he just needs the 396 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: props on the set. Can we read anything into the 397 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: attire that's being worn by his family members at the event. 398 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: All of these things were very important context clues. And 399 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: then you would be getting reporting from the event, and 400 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: you would begin team reporters who were there covering the event, 401 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and they're reporting on the message board some of the 402 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: last minute rumors that they're hearing. Hey, I'm told so 403 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: and so was on the phone with so and so 404 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: as of this morning. Hey, so and So's teammate, who 405 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: already plays for Tennessee is in attendance at the high 406 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: school today. That's got to be a good sign. Just 407 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: the most amazing climate of a bunch of grown men 408 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: could be in their twenties and thirties, could be in 409 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: their fifties and sixties, and their entire mental disposition, their 410 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: entire mental health, their entire mood for the next several 411 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: days to months, really rides on the decision of a 412 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: seventeen or an eighteen year old kid that day at 413 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: that high school. Just the most amazing time. And my 414 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: other favorite part about it is for the bigger schools, 415 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, for the higher profile recruiting type programs, you 416 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: always had the targets that you knew you were in on, 417 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: and you'd be following these for years really, and then 418 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: leading up to signing day, you'd be getting daily updates, 419 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: sometimes multiple updates per day about where things stand with 420 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, the ten or fifteen guys that you're in 421 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: on and you're recruiting against so and so forth, and 422 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: you know, you would have levels of confidence, we have 423 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: high confidence in this guy, medium confidence in this guy. 424 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: We're still in it for this guy, but we're on 425 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: the outside looking in going into signing day week, things 426 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: of that nature. But the most fun part is there 427 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: would be a message board insider that would pop up, 428 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: and every message board has them, and then they're legitimate 429 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: in most cases. I mean, yes, there are guys or 430 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: girls who have sources inside the athletic building and the 431 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: football complex and sometimes they get nuggets of information and 432 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: they share what they can share on the message boards. 433 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: And the most fun thing to see is I would 434 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: scan around on different team sites. Is you get to 435 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: know who the real insiders are. And when those insiders 436 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: would start hinting that there is a play, a surprise player, 437 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: a player that we're secretly in on, and no one 438 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: knows it and the staff's trying to keep it under wraps. 439 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: But you'll see on National Signing Day. Those were the 440 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: best of times, ladies and gentlemen, because those were the 441 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: times where you thought, to yourself, anything could happen. We 442 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: got to have our head on a swivel because on 443 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: one hand, hey, we may be able to flip a 444 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: kid at the eleventh hour. However, on the other hand, 445 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: we're not the only school who thinks we have the 446 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: inside track no one else knows about on a kid. 447 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: There may be a kid that we're really confident on 448 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: that gets flipped from us at the eleventh hour. And 449 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: when that happened, and there were one or two examples 450 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: of that every year, when that happened, it was anarchy. 451 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: It was total chaos. And the closest I can compare 452 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: it to in recent history is if you'll remember on 453 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: signing Day a few years ago, maybe twenty twenty one, 454 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: something like that, twenty twenty two whenever Travis Hunter came 455 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: out of high school and he was verbally commit to 456 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: Florida State. I think he was verbally committed for a while, 457 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: but he was thought to be a formality to Florida State. 458 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: All he's got to do is sign with Florida State. 459 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: I remember we were down in Fort Lauderdale covering National 460 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Signing Day for CBS at the time, and will Fong, 461 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Steve Wilfong is in that studio with us, but he's 462 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: off on a side set, and what we would do 463 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: is we would have coverage on the desk and then 464 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: we would throw to Steve every now and then, and 465 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: he's working the phones and he's getting updates, and I 466 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: remember I kind of caught out of the corner of 467 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: my eye his body language start to shift as he 468 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: was on the phone and he was getting text updates 469 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and what he was hearing was 470 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: Shadoor Sanders may not be signing with Florida State. And 471 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: so we tossed to him for an update and he 472 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: dropped that update. And then shortly thereafter you find out 473 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: Shadoor Sanders is going to Jackson State with Dion Sanders. 474 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: That was one of the biggest wrecking balls out of 475 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: left field on signing Day that I could remember, And 476 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: it really took me back to what National Signing Day 477 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: is used to be, like a generation prior. If we 478 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: call a generation ten years a generation prior. So yeah, 479 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I wish you guys, if you're a little bit too 480 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: young to have lived through that, I wish you guys 481 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: could have lived through that. Oh man, it was just amazing. 482 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: It was like its own season. Recruiting was its own season. 483 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there were people who kind of treated college 484 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: football like NFL fans treat the NFL. You know, you've 485 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: got some people in your lives who you would almost 486 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: swear love the draft more than they love the season itself, 487 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: and it may not make any sense to you, but 488 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: there are people who are like that. There are people 489 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: who just cover the draft, and that was the way 490 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: recruiting was. So I still hold out hope that maybe 491 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: there's some changes down the road that reinvent, slash, reinvigorate 492 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: the spirit of what signing Day used to be again. 493 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: I dream we're allowed to do that around here. I 494 00:26:52,800 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: dream what else has happened? So Gus Malson retiring, I 495 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: mean his best I can tell this is it for him? 496 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Gus Malzon, what do we think about Gus? This surprised 497 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: me a little bit, not the concept of it. It 498 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: surprised me that it happened when it happened. So if 499 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: Gus Malson was gonna step down, or if he was 500 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: gonna get fired, whatever, if it was gonna happen, I 501 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: thought it would have already happened. But it happened just 502 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. If you missed it. Gus 503 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Maleson announced his retirement as the offensive coordinator at Florida State, 504 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: and Mike Norvell is gonna reassume play calling duties down there. 505 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: And we talked the other day about the vibe around 506 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Florida State and the mood around Florida State. It's kind 507 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: of thought to be a dead year upcoming, which I 508 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: don't really recall in college football very often, sort of 509 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: a not a tank year because there's no draft, so 510 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: you're not tanking for draft picks. At Florida State. You're 511 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: kind of tanking in exchange for saving money, which is 512 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: what it is. Maybe they'll go ten and two, Maybe 513 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: they'll surprise like Virginia did this year, semi out of nowhere. 514 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: But that's for another day. But for Malson retiring, my 515 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: thought about Gus Malzon always goes back to those Auburn days. 516 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: It always goes back to the immediate splash of cold 517 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: water to the face of the SEC. He was, especially 518 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: when he came to Auburn in twenty thirteen. They had 519 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: just won a national title in twenty ten, and he 520 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. But no one remembers that. They 521 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: just remember Cam Newton with good reason. So then Gus 522 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: leaves and he's the head coach at Arkansas State, and 523 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: he comes back and he's the head coach at Auburn 524 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, and out of nowhere, they go from 525 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: being pretty terrible to being on the doorstep of winning 526 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: it all. They were less than a minute away. They 527 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: led Florida State in the fourth quarter of the National 528 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: title game. They're less than a minute away from winning 529 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: that thing. And if not for Jameis Winston, they would 530 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: have won that thing. If not for Kelvin Benjamin, they 531 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: would have won that thing. But even as it is, 532 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: the impact Gus Malzon had in the SEC was such 533 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: that it turned the SEC upside down. Now, the frustrating 534 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: part for coaches back then was it wasn't the scheme 535 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Malzon was running that really gave them fits. I remember 536 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: talking to a couple of defensive coordinators back then. We 537 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: didn't have nearly the access back then we do now, 538 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: but I knew a couple of coaches at least, and 539 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: they would always say the same thing. They would say, Hey, 540 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: it's not the scheme. The scheme's not all that hard 541 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: to figure out. It's that we don't have the players 542 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: to defend it. We don't have the players to defend 543 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: the version of the offense he runs. We don't also 544 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: have the players to defend the tempo at which he 545 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: runs the offense. And they also felt like back then, 546 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: officials let Malzon take control of the game. Officiating crews 547 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: lost control of the game to Gus Mauson and the 548 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: hurry up, no huddle offensive approach. Nowadays, that's kind of normal, 549 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: and we've even gone away from it a little bit 550 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: because everyone adjusted to it. But you were in a period, 551 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: especially in the SEC, where everyone had built their rosters 552 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: to stop what Alabama and LSU and Georgia did, and 553 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: so all the linebackers were like six three two forty 554 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: plus in some cases. And then you got Malson running 555 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: all over the plays using all fifty three and a 556 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: thirty yards wide of that field, and it's sort of 557 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: basketball on grass. It's at a really frenetic pace. And 558 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: so you got those big linebackers having to run east 559 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: to west and they're running a play about every five seconds. 560 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: It feels like guys are just gassed. And so you 561 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: would watch Malson's offenses operate, and they were succeeding through chaos. 562 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: Like when you watched Auburn and you watch Malson, it 563 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: wasn't just this absolute, off the charts, high level, precision 564 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: based execution. Most of their big plays, most of their 565 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: explosives would be sprung because defense wasn't even ready for 566 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: the play to be run. And it forced a lot 567 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: of change. It changed the dynamics of the way that 568 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: programs recruited defensive personnel. It changed the way the game 569 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: was officiated. There were a lot of cases where illegal 570 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: man downfield, illegal lineman, you know, going downfield too far, 571 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Malzon was notorious for understanding how 572 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: to work and understanding how to get away with and 573 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: it brought increased scrutiny and increased emphasis and focus on that, 574 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: and that's why you don't see teams getting away with 575 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: that nearly as often today. But if you rewind ten 576 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: years and it wasn't just Malson and Auburn, but if 577 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: you rewind ten years and you look at some of 578 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: those hurry up, no huddle teams, and you look at 579 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: how often they pop a pass, especially quarterback roll out, 580 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: and then you pop a pass and there's a guy 581 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: wide open, and you're saying, wow, how could you bust 582 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: a coverage like that? I mean, there's a receiver and 583 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: the dB had crashed on the quarterback and there's no 584 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: one within twenty yards of that guy. Will you go 585 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: back and look at the replay and you go back 586 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: and realize, oh, it's called the left guard was ten 587 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: yards downfield. You've got secondary guys reading their keys. You 588 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: got secondary guys really doing what they've been coached to 589 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: do and getting burned. Because so much is happening so quickly, 590 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: officiating crews aren't even focused on what they're supposed to 591 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: be calling. But I'll tell you, I mean, if people 592 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: ask about what his legacy is, like I told you, 593 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I think about him at Auburn, I think most people 594 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: associated him with being the head coach at Auburn. Is 595 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Gus Malson not the best coach Auburn's had this millennium? 596 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: Is he not the best coach Auburn has had since 597 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: the turn of the millennium? The only competition there would 598 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: be Tommy Tuberville, and Tuberville ran off a string of 599 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: wins against Alabama. Tuberville had a team in four that 600 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: went undefeated, could have played for a national championship. It 601 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: was the BCS era. His team got left out and 602 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: it was USC and Oklahoma. But Gus Malson played for 603 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: a national title too, so they both had at least 604 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: one version of a team that was that caliber. But 605 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: Tuberville sort of got run out of the SEC as 606 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: Nick Saban came into the SEC. Gus Mauzon went heads 607 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: up with Nick Saban and I think beat him three 608 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: times heads up. So I think Gus Maleson competed in 609 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: way more shark infested waters. Gus Mason competed at a 610 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: time when the SEC had completely leveled up its game, 611 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: and Gus Malson did quite all right at Auburn. Now, 612 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: he didn't ultimately win a national title like we said, 613 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: he came very close, but he more than kept his 614 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: head above water and in some cases thrived in an 615 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: era where a lot of other guys got buried. So 616 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: I would call Gus Malson the best head coach that 617 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: Auburn's had this millennium. I mean, what are you going 618 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: back to. You're going back to Terry Bowden early nineties, 619 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: then you're going back to Pat Dye. So Gus Maleson's 620 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: name I think is way up there in the Auburn 621 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: record books. And look the other part about that, and 622 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: the funny thing about the dynamic there is Auburn fired 623 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Mauson and they kept a home in Auburn, like they 624 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: still love Auburn. I know, I know Gus Mauson, but 625 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: I know several people close to Gus Malson. They still 626 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: spoke very fondly of Auburn. Obviously they didn't love the 627 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: very end of how it went down there with them. 628 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: No one likes getting fired, but you know, once once 629 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: the anger ceases and once temperatures cool down, and you 630 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: just kind of go back to your baseline of how 631 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: you feel about a place. I wouldn't surprise me to 632 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: see them in Auburn for a long time to come. 633 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: So if this is it, congrats to Gus Mauson on 634 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: what was a very storied career and a great career. 635 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: All right, I'd say that's a good spot to leave 636 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: off for now. 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