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Speaker 1: Hi, Hello, welcome back to Cardinal Territory.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Kwu here with a special guest interview episode.

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Speaker 2: These two need no introduction, but I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: them anyway. Cardinals fans know them, love them. Cardinals coaches

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Speaker 2: Daniel discussA and John Jay joined the show. Guys, welcome

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Speaker 2: to Cardinal Territory.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this finally, time you had us on.

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Speaker 1: Well, sorry, you're so popular, You're just in such high demand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this was supposed to happen on like February.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look better late than never.

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Speaker 2: And when Cardinals fans watch this episode, it will be

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Speaker 2: the final day of what has been a week long

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Speaker 2: road trip to Seattle and Milwaukee. Yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: a weird time for Cardinals baseball. We'll touch on the

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Speaker 2: We'll touch on the news. First of the series, Mason

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Speaker 2: win went ahead and called it a season with a

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Speaker 2: left nope, right meniscus tear that he was trying to

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Speaker 2: play through. He was scratched on Tuesday's game against the Mariners,

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Speaker 2: was not able to play even an off day on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: so manager Ali Marmle made the decision to end mason season.

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Speaker 1: Guys, We'll start with you, Scales.

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Speaker 2: What did you see from Mason Win this year that

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Speaker 2: really impressed you from just an overall player standpoint.

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Speaker 5: I mean you talk about what jumps off the page

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Speaker 5: first is is his defense. Obviously, the guy has been

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Speaker 5: as rock solid as they come out there at shortstop,

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Speaker 5: you know, a very demanding position. He gets to a

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Speaker 5: lot of balls, has the great arm, He puts a

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Speaker 5: lot of work into it. You could tell as the

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Speaker 5: season war on it just the knee just became too

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Speaker 5: much for him. He tried to post as as best

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Speaker 5: he could, and I give him a lot of credit

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Speaker 5: for running out there not at one hundred percent. He

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Speaker 5: knows that him at eighty percent is so maybe our

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Speaker 5: best option at shortstop.

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Speaker 3: So he took a lot of strids forward defensively this year.

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Speaker 5: You know, he brings he brings energy to that position,

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Speaker 5: brings energy to our lineup, and you know we're gonna

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Speaker 5: miss having him for the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mason's been great, and I think you know Daniel

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Speaker 4: hit on it where you know he played out He

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Speaker 4: played out there at eighty percent and we saw what

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Speaker 4: he was doing out there. So I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 4: seeing a healthy Mason win next year, and I think

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Speaker 4: you know, you can continue to grow, right. You know,

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Speaker 4: in our experiences, every year you get a little bit

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Speaker 4: better and you start realizing things. And I think this

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Speaker 4: was a big year for him and we saw it right.

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Speaker 4: He put in the work on defense and he saw

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Speaker 4: the results, and I feel like he's going to do

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Speaker 4: out the rest of his game and I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: see Mason win next year.

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Speaker 6: Play.

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Speaker 2: This is such a unique time for this Cardinals organization

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Speaker 2: and you guys obviously started your careers in Saint Louis

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Speaker 2: at a time where the Saint Louis Cardinals were at

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Speaker 2: a peak and right now we're looking at what is

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Speaker 2: likely going to be a rebuild. I mean, we were

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Speaker 2: almost through this transition year and the whole premise of

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Speaker 2: this season was to find players or identify players that

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Speaker 2: could be a part of this future, and there were

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Speaker 2: so many different options coming into the year.

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Speaker 1: JJ.

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Speaker 2: For you, I mean, you've spent a ton of time

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Speaker 2: making this out feel better, working with different guys. Is

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Speaker 2: there anyone that you feel like took advantage of this

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Speaker 2: season from a coach perspective that you're excited about going

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Speaker 6: I think there's a few different guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Alec Burrowson started the year off

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Speaker 4: as the first baseman they're with really a lot of

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Speaker 4: he's been able to do and he's improved on the

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Speaker 4: outfield and it's all testament to him. Early in the year,

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Speaker 4: when he wasn't getting the reps that you know, he

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Speaker 4: putting the work in during banding practice behind the scenes,

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Speaker 4: and then it really paid off for him. So I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, he made a lot of big strides and

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Speaker 4: I'm happy for him with the year he's had.

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Speaker 1: Sky's what about you.

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Speaker 3: I think Burley has done a great job.

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Speaker 5: You know, he was a guy that we told we

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Speaker 5: told him, hey, you be ready to come play first year,

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Speaker 5: and you know, he didn't have a lot of opportunities

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Speaker 5: early and he fought his way into the lineup. I

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Speaker 5: think Yvon Herrera taking the next step forward as a hitter.

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Speaker 5: He's battled some injuries, but when he's been in the lineup,

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Speaker 5: like he's an impact bat for us. A young guy

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Speaker 5: that's that's learning how to how to be a middle

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Speaker 5: see those guys take those steps and really try to

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Speaker 5: it's it's a hard gig these guys have. You know,

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Speaker 5: they're balancing establishing themselves, you know, personally, to try and

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Speaker 5: set set themselves up for the future, while also being

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Speaker 5: a part of, you know, trying to learn what it

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Speaker 5: is to be a winning player. So I give those

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Speaker 5: guys a lot of credit for taking steps forward this year.

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Speaker 2: And when you think about just what the organization was

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Speaker 2: trying to accomplish this year, I mean, we have oh

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Speaker 2: two weeks left of the regular season, definitely enough time

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Speaker 2: to look at a bunch of different players and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this season was a success in this regard, here's where

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Speaker 2: this player needs to take steps forward to coming next year.

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Speaker 2: When you look at this core of twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: and granted some of it might change with the new

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Speaker 2: front office, where do you feel like this this team

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Speaker 2: could be with the players currently on the roster coming

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Speaker 5: So you know, I think we start this see here

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Speaker 5: as like you know, call it runway, call it whatever

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Speaker 5: you want. I don't think we really knew what to expect.

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Speaker 5: I people would ask me the off season, and I

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Speaker 5: would I'm really not sure what kind of team we're

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Speaker 5: going to be this year, Like we might be good

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Speaker 5: and we might be really bad, and we've been somewhere

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Speaker 5: in the middle. I think maybe we outperformed expectations for

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Speaker 5: a little while and have underperformed lately. But I think

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Speaker 5: you see, you've seen some of these guys get that

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Speaker 5: necessity experience uh JJ and I talked about all the time.

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Speaker 5: It takes hundreds of a bat's one hundreds of played

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Speaker 5: appearances years in the big leagues before you really understand

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Speaker 5: what type of player you are, what you do well,

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Speaker 5: what you don't do well, how the league is trying

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Speaker 5: to attack you, and it's just a game of adjustments.

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Speaker 5: The league, the league adjust to you to find how

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Speaker 5: and that continues for your whole career. I think some

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Speaker 5: that and and that's what it takes to stick around

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Speaker 5: in this game for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think the prime example is, you know, you see

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Speaker 4: a guy like bitter Scott, we talked about taking strides,

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Speaker 4: and we've seen what he's done on defense and base

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Speaker 4: running wise and offense. Like like Daniel said, you know,

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Speaker 4: it takes play appearance, it takes that experience. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I expect him to go into the off season and

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Speaker 4: you know, make some adjustments. But he's been great on

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Speaker 4: the way he's handled the you know, kind of the

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Speaker 4: mental side of it, which is probably the hardest part

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Speaker 4: about this game. Rights, It's a game of failure and

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Speaker 4: it's you know, how are you going to respond to

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Speaker 4: two adversity? So I think these guys have been through

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Speaker 4: a lot of adversity this year, you know, personally as

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Speaker 4: a team, and I'm looking forward to seeing them, you know,

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Speaker 4: how they build off the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you.

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Speaker 2: Guys know all about that, just based on your careers,

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Speaker 2: both as players and now as coaches, And I think

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Speaker 2: that's something that Cardinals fans like. Obviously they know you

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Speaker 2: wherever wherever Scalzo was, Jay's right there. You guys are

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Speaker 2: very much a packaged deal, and it's been that way

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Speaker 2: throughout your entire career as you both manage or not

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Speaker 2: managed a coach for the Cardinals. This season together, what

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Speaker 2: has been the best part of doing.

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Speaker 5: That, I think just showing up to work every day

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Speaker 5: with one of your best friends and trying to pass

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Speaker 5: along any information, any wisdom, any experience to the to

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Speaker 5: these players going forward, Like we don't have all the answers,

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Speaker 5: but we've seen a lot of baseball. We've seen a

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Speaker 5: lot of winning baseball, been a part of winning teams.

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Speaker 5: And the only one I took this job, and I

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Speaker 5: think I can speak for for Jay as well, is

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Speaker 5: is to be a part of a winning team. And

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Speaker 5: so no matter what the expectations are, we're you know,

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Speaker 5: what our record is, we are trying to impart you know,

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Speaker 5: winning habits on these guys, and I think we just

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Speaker 5: we just can't help but look at the gate like that.

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Speaker 5: And so we talk a lot about what we saw

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Speaker 5: in the game that night, what we might see moving forward,

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Speaker 5: a lot about our experiences, and just to have someone

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Speaker 5: you trust, someone that you've gone gone through these ups

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Speaker 5: and downs with in the coaches room with you is just, Uh,

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Speaker 5: it's been a lot of fun, you know, through the

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Speaker 3: Like we we just have a good time together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been fun and talk all the ups and downs.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's been cool where we live moments

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Speaker 4: that happened in our career right, whether positive or negatively,

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Speaker 4: to help this group of guys now. So you know,

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Speaker 4: there might be mistakes that we made in the past

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Speaker 4: and we can you know, we'll come back home and like, hey,

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Speaker 4: remember when you did this, only I did this or that,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, how can we portray that story

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Speaker 4: the next day to help these guys. So it's been

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Speaker 4: a ton of fun being able to show up to

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Speaker 4: work every day with your best friend and for me personally,

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Speaker 4: just to see Daniel you obviously in his role as

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Speaker 4: every single day and it's pretty cool to see him

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Speaker 4: in this position and to see him leading, and you

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Speaker 4: know the impact that he's had on all these guys.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely pretty cool, I mean, just from an

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Speaker 2: immediate perspective to see how the coaching staff has really

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Speaker 2: had to change in terms of expectations for the organization.

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Speaker 1: You guys know this.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals were always you know, it wasn't just B

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Speaker 2: five hundred or make the wild card. It was establish

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Speaker 2: yourself in the NAL Central at the minimum and make

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Speaker 2: these deep postseason runs, and you guys came to an

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Speaker 2: era where you were able to do that. The Cardinals

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Speaker 2: right now are working to get there. But right now

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Speaker 2: the evaluation and the coaching is more about developing at

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Speaker 2: the major leagues. Was that difficult for either of you

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Speaker 2: to really kind of have to make those changes because

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Speaker 2: those that's not who we were as players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, I think, go ahead, j D.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think for me personally, you know, I

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Speaker 4: spent two years over in Miami and kind of saw

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Speaker 4: first year we took over the brand new staff and

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Speaker 4: we were able to make a playoff run, which is

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Speaker 4: pretty cool. So, you know, having those experiences from the

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Speaker 4: past have helped me now to become in this stage

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Well, you guys have some fun

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Speaker 2: Specifically, Jay, the third annual J Family Foundation Golf and

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Speaker 6: But yeah, this year is super fun.

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Speaker 2: Scout's how excited are you to partner with jam and

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Speaker 3: And to watch what he's done over the years through

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Speaker 5: And the impact he's been able to have on the community,

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to be a part of it. It's it's

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Speaker 3: We have a good time. There'll be a long drive contest.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. We're talking to woman's long drive champion

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Speaker 5: I just want to see the see us like push

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Speaker 3: So just for us to compete, grind out through the finish.

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Speaker 4: I think the word that resonates is compete, right, just

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be ownership over that clubhouse.

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Speaker 5: of the direction of this franchise, because ultimately, it doesn't

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Speaker 5: matter what Olie says, what what the coaching staff says,

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Speaker 5: what upstairs says. It comes down to the players on

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Speaker 5: the field, and they have to make a decision with direction.

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Speaker 5: They're they're going to take this thing. So I'd like

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Speaker 5: to see that that ownership take place and those guys

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Speaker 5: rise to the and take that step.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, taking ownership of the season, right, you know, looking

449
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Speaker 4: at it and saying what do I need to do

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Speaker 4: to improve?

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Speaker 6: What did I do good? What did I do bad?

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Speaker 6: And having an.

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Speaker 3: Honest assessment of the season and moving forward. Right.

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Speaker 4: Like we said earlier, this game is not easy. It's hard,

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Speaker 4: and it takes a lot of experience to get to

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Speaker 4: the point you want to get to. So, you know,

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Speaker 4: my thing for them is, hey, look at yourself in

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Speaker 4: the mirror. What can you improve on and how are

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Speaker 4: you going to improve on that? And let's attack that

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Speaker 4: and let's get ready.

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Speaker 3: For next year.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got one more message from our friends

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Speaker 2: at Arena Club featuring as I'm looking at the video

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Speaker 2: and ad read from AJ Prazinski, who was a late

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Speaker 2: scratched from today's show. So foul Territory subscribers, make sure

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Speaker 2: that we give AJ a lot of crap on his

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Speaker 2: next episode, because this was supposed to be a collaborative effort.

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Speaker 1: But late scratch not a gamer.

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Speaker 5: I mean, AJ normally posts, so I am shocked that

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Speaker 5: he didn't post. Shocked and disappointed.

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Speaker 6: Correct, I'm disappointed. Well that's the new word I'll.

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Speaker 2: Use, Aj, We're disappointed in you. Let's hear from We're

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Speaker 2: gonna Club and we'll end. Uh what we're done.

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Speaker 8: Time time for your weekly Arena Club segment where we

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Speaker 8: see what AJ pulls from a slab pack and here

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Speaker 8: we go, pull a little Emerald pack this week. AJ

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Speaker 8: looking for something big.

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Speaker 3: Always, I'm always looking for the big thing. Next.

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Speaker 8: Big things, got big money, big money, baby. We've got

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Speaker 8: a Dave Winfield card from nineteen seventy four to seventy

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Speaker 8: four tops card from this Emerald pack. Estimated value three

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Speaker 8: hundred bucks. You could sell it back for two seventy

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Speaker 8: sod So I feel like you are into more of

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Speaker 8: the current players. Would that be accurate?

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Speaker 5: Like legend in my showroom, I have a Robin you out,

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Speaker 5: I have a Griffy rookie card.

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Speaker 3: Think that's true? So I mean I have some older

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Speaker 3: vintage players Bob Gibson.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you have Gibson.

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Speaker 5: So I know I disagree Scott, But Dave Winfield for

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Speaker 5: that mount of money back, I'm reselling it.

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Speaker 8: And if you want to get your own pack or

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Speaker 8: new card, you can get twenty percent off your first

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Speaker 8: slab pack or card purchase at arenaclub dot com slash foul.

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Speaker 1: All right, do you guys want to end on a

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Speaker 1: sentimental note?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Do we have a choice, No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: You guys have done almost every single chapter of your

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Speaker 2: career as whether they were as rookies, the later parts

501
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Speaker 2: of your careers, and now as you start your coaching careers,

502
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Speaker 2: it's you've been a tandem and that kind of bond

503
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Speaker 2: is rare, especially in baseball. But when I like to

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Speaker 2: call this my trauma bond with my fellow beat writers,

505
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Speaker 2: when you go through a multiple seasons over and over

506
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Speaker 2: and it's two hundred games, you're away from your family

507
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Speaker 2: most of the time, the people you surround yourself with

508
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Speaker 2: really do become family, and it really does matter. As

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Speaker 2: you are both watching Jjb'll start with you when you

510
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Speaker 2: watch Scouse start his coaching career and what he's learned

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Speaker 2: as a bench coach, and now that you guys are together,

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Speaker 2: what's his strength? What are you proud of when you

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Speaker 2: see him in his everyday routine.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest thing is is he's

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Speaker 4: even cut right He doesn't. He doesn't he doesn't have

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Speaker 4: a reaction right away to things. You know, he takes

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Speaker 4: the emotion out of it. And I think that calming

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Speaker 4: presence is something.

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Speaker 6: That I look towards a lot of times.

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Speaker 4: Right things are going on during the game, things targetting

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Speaker 4: fast and I can kind of look at him and

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Speaker 4: he's calm. So I think that's one of the biggest

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Speaker 4: traits that he has, that he's calm and he's cool

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Speaker 4: and under control, and it's something that I know I'm

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Speaker 4: a little bit different with that, So I always admire

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Speaker 4: his ability to really, you know, be in the moment

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Speaker 4: and not be emotional, which is something that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Scoleston.

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Speaker 2: You see Jay I mean, he had two years in

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Speaker 2: Miami under mutual friend of the podcast skipt Schumacher, and

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Speaker 2: now you see him in a different role with a

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Speaker 2: different organization that means so much to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: What do you see from him as a coach?

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Speaker 5: I think the things that it's about from John are

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Speaker 5: his work ethic and his energy. Right, this guy shows

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Speaker 5: up to the park every day with energy, sometimes more

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Speaker 5: energy than the players and gets after it with those guys.

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Speaker 5: He demands a lot, but he has a lot to give.

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Speaker 5: So it's fun to see him out there. If the

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Speaker 5: outfield coach is shagging out there, then then the players

541
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Speaker 5: are like, man, I've better re out there shagging too.

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Speaker 5: He's running sprints with them, holding guys accountable. So you know,

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Speaker 5: that work ethic and that energy that he bring every

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Speaker 5: day is inspiring and he just out there to make

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Speaker 5: guys better, and so it's fun to watch him to

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Speaker 5: watch work.

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Speaker 2: I will say earlier in the year, definitely in the

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Speaker 2: first half, we were on the you know the track

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Speaker 2: pregame watching VP and there was this guy in like

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Speaker 2: far way in centerfield hoodie on. My clue should have

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Speaker 2: been that he also had a beanie on, but I

552
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Speaker 2: was like, which outfielder is getting after it? Like leaping

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Speaker 2: at the wall, like going all out. It wasn't as

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Speaker 2: impressed with a stubby claps diving stop a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: ago on the infield during VP, but it was pretty

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Speaker 2: close and I looked over.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that's that's John Jay. That's

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Speaker 1: not an outfielder on the team. That is John Jay.

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Speaker 1: You still have a JA. I think. I think if

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Speaker 1: they really needed you, could you go out there and.

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Speaker 6: Post I want to see yes, I want to see yes.

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Speaker 6: Well I'm not.

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Speaker 5: He's the emergency outfredre for you to activate somebody from

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Speaker 5: the staff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well then what's your role?

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Speaker 3: I know, I'll let him get after it. I'm done playing.

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Speaker 3: I'll let him shag.

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Speaker 2: You have to say, because your manager is most likely

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Speaker 2: getting ejected at some point during so you have to

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Speaker 2: be there. Has to be like a backup manager on reserve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I'll hold myself out just but.

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Speaker 6: He's been he's been really good this year.

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Speaker 1: He has he has the most.

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Speaker 3: But we did set the line earlier this year.

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Speaker 5: He said four and a half, and I think Jay

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Speaker 5: and I both laughed at him and I know he's

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Speaker 5: hit the over, but he.

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Speaker 3: Has been good.

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Speaker 5: He has been good some well, sometimes a player freaks

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Speaker 5: out and then the manager has no choice but to

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Speaker 5: go out there, so mend him for that. I don't

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Speaker 5: think he always wants to get ejected, but sometimes as

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Speaker 5: the manager, you don't really have a choice. Yeah, we can,

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Speaker 5: but there's there's sometimes that he wants to get ejected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell, you can tell.

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Speaker 2: My favorite was when he got ejected the last game

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Speaker 2: of the first half and we had this like four

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Speaker 2: hour rain delay, and he got ejected in the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the eighth and he comes flying out and he

590
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Speaker 2: has eight fingers up and I'm not I can I

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Speaker 2: just know him and I did like the lip rid

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Speaker 2: later and you can see him say, you threw me

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Speaker 2: out in the eighth because you man sit through an

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Speaker 2: entire rain delay, you know, rightfully, So if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: throw me out, do it before the delay.

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Speaker 5: But I will say, we have not at least Alie

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Speaker 5: and I haven't gotten thrown out on the same play

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Speaker 5: this year at all.

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Speaker 3: Like we did last year twice in Milwaukee twice run

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Speaker 3: it back. We have two more chances, so we have

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Speaker 3: run it back for all time sakes. The people may

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Speaker 3: want to see J managed. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is that how the Jay we're it?

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Speaker 3: I'm in last last year with Alie me Turner, so

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go Brownie. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, Let's find out. Does everyone get righted?

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Speaker 5: And then eventually, Oh, I've been good, I've been I've

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Speaker 5: been good this year.

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Speaker 3: I've been good. For now?

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, I know you have to get to

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Speaker 2: American Family Field for a thrilling seven to fifteen matchup

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Speaker 2: against the Brewers and which maybe a J presents people

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Speaker 2: show up to that one.

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Speaker 1: He just texted me. By the way, I hope it's

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Speaker 1: an apology. AJ.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching this, it's only because we care and

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Speaker 2: we know that you're better than this.

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Speaker 1: You're better.

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Speaker 5: I think that that gig pays more than this gig,

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Speaker 5: so I'm sure he'll post for that one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, does this not look like a high quality podcast?

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Speaker 3: Too serious? All right?

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Speaker 1: Day, scous thanks so much for doing this again.

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Speaker 2: You would like to check out more about the J

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Speaker 2: Family Foundation, you can do so at Jfamilyfoundation dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the event on Wednesday and hoping

627
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Speaker 2: to finish the season strong.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. Its always guys, We'll talk soon, see you all

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Speaker 3: Right, Thanks Katie,