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Speaker 4: You know, Ephraim, I do want to.

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Speaker 3: Switch gears briefly to college football, and I don't want

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Speaker 3: struck me today, Ephraim is that I will listen. I

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Speaker 3: think you and I and most of the audience we

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Speaker 3: love the NFL. We also love college football. But I

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Speaker 3: was thinking today college football, of every major sports, do

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Speaker 3: have the worst lead.

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Speaker 4: Up to the season. Oh yeah, Like it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So put us out like credit, the NFL fans get in,

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Speaker 3: fans get to watch. There's clearly a higher degree of

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Speaker 3: media availability because every day I wake up, there's a

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Speaker 3: And I was thinking about this with college football. The

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Speaker 4: Are our players? Are fans allowed in every day?

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Speaker 5: No, they have designated days where fans are part of

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Speaker 5: Now, they'll have days set aside where you know, fans

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Speaker 5: No, So when they set things up, we're gonna have

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Speaker 5: We want effort, we want this and that a lot

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that that coaches don't even

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Speaker 5: especially kids, they you get distracted easy. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 4: It's for business.

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Speaker 5: Sure, it's your job, college football. You're trying to hit

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Speaker 5: Full No, I don't think they should do that really well,

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Speaker 5: I don't think. So what are your benefits? What are

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Speaker 7: To fill out your roster? There are no cuts in college.

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Speaker 4: There's no need for that in college. You don't need

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Speaker 5: I don't know the benefit of that right now. It's

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Speaker 5: Right Like, there's a feeder system in college already, sure,

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Speaker 5: the ground running, and to the credit of college football,

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Speaker 5: and I think the twelve team playoff helps. You know,

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Speaker 3: No start with the bang. We will start with the bank.

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Speaker 3: Three Saturdays from now is Week one, two Saturdays. So

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Speaker 6: I know, and you never know which. It's hard to

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Speaker 6: They were disaster and total chaos. Coaches fired in season

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Speaker 6: Well, he's a lightning rod because he was the first

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Speaker 6: pick overall. He is very talented, but needs what we

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Speaker 6: call hard coaching and he's going to get it from

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson. The thing with Caleb Williams is a lack

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Speaker 6: of discipline in his play, not very structured. You know,

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Speaker 6: he needs more structure and that's coming with Ben Johnson

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Speaker 6: and he gets on him. But man, Caleb Williams, I

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Speaker 6: know it wasn't good. He didn't have a good rookie season.

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Speaker 6: But if you isolate throws, there's some plays last year

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Speaker 6: we go wow, But he just played with a lack

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Speaker 6: of discipline and that's going to come here. And you know,

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Speaker 6: by the way, they are very talent on offense. The

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Speaker 6: problem is on defense where they've like no pass rush

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Speaker 6: at all.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question about this game we're

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Speaker 5: watching here. Cleveland has six quarterbacks on the roster. Obviously

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Speaker 5: they're depending on Joe Flacco to start this thing off.

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Speaker 5: Is there a spot, are a way that Shaduur Sanders

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Speaker 5: can supersede that and play himself into an opening day starter.

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Speaker 6: It'll be hard, it'll be hard, but listen if now,

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Speaker 6: depending on how they want to do it, he started

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Speaker 6: tonight at Carolina. He'll be in Philly this week. They

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Speaker 6: have two joint practices and you know, I'll be at

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Speaker 6: least at one of them, and I'll talk to Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 6: I'll get and I know if Joe flackwef cover him

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Speaker 6: since so seven, so I'll get a lot of pinions

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Speaker 6: on how should or has done. And he's doing well tonight,

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Speaker 6: by the way. Now Carolina, by the way, played some

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Speaker 6: starters on defense, so that that's I like that. And

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Speaker 6: Shoulders playing with a bunch of backups, which is not

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Speaker 6: easy to do, by the way, you know, because a

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Speaker 6: lot of these guys won't be on the football team

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Speaker 6: this fall. But I like that he's gotten off to

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Speaker 6: a fairly decent start. Now, could he do it. I

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Speaker 6: don't see Dylan Gabriel being a starter. Cann He Pickett

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Speaker 6: has heard. He's not a starter. They got the wrong

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Speaker 6: guy there. What they should have gotten is Tanner McKee,

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Speaker 6: but I don't think he would have done it. Tanner McKee,

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Speaker 6: as you saw last night twenty for twenty five, who's

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Speaker 6: really talented, one of the better backups in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: But Flacco. Look, Flacco put the team on his back

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Speaker 6: two years ago with Cleveland. That was incredible. Last year

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Speaker 6: not so good with Indy. But it depends from how

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Speaker 6: good of a start that they get off to. If

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Speaker 6: Joe starts like I think he will and they're two

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Speaker 6: and five, you have to have yourself what's the point, Like,

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Speaker 6: what are you playing for here? Go to the kid now?

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Speaker 6: One thing I will tell you, if they don't think

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Speaker 6: the kid's ready, they're not going to just throw him

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Speaker 6: in there. That's not going to happen. Kevin's got his extension,

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Speaker 6: but they're going to be smart about now. Jimmy has him.

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Speaker 6: The owner is involved. He's an involved owner. He made

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Speaker 6: the call to go against Kyle Shannon and play. He

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Speaker 6: told Ray Farmer. Then he's hey, put we want we

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Speaker 6: want Johnny manziel In, and that's not what Kyle Shanahan wanted.

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Speaker 6: So Jimmy HASLM has gotta be careful here. He cannot

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Speaker 6: get involved here with what happens with playing decisions.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan joining us, host of Inside the Birds at

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Speaker 3: Adam at Kaplan NFL on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question now, Adam.

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Speaker 3: It's a little water under the bridge at this point,

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Speaker 3: but I am curious in your reporting. What was the

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Speaker 3: biggest or what was the reason for Shodor's fall? Was

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Speaker 3: it being misevaluated? Was it really bad interviews? We've heard

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Speaker 3: so much yours.

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Speaker 6: Plugged in the true go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 6: just going to tell you what I got. I got

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Speaker 6: three things not prepared for interviews. I would say that

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Speaker 6: like he was asked to do certain things, like what

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Speaker 6: happens is his interviews with quarterbacks. Okay, hey, listen, we're

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Speaker 6: gonna give you these plays. We're gonna run through them,

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Speaker 6: and we want you to come. We're gonna talk to

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Speaker 6: you later after you go through the playbook or the film.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna look at this iPad and we're going to

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Speaker 6: come back and bring you back in an hour and

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Speaker 6: he either didn't study or was indifferent, and that that's

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Speaker 6: just not right, and he seemed unprepared and didn't care.

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Speaker 6: And that was that was true, that that I talked

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Speaker 6: to the right people that that this isn't made up.

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Speaker 6: I don't do that stuff. And I when when the

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Speaker 6: stuff started to come out before the draft, I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 6: why is this coming out? Like what's how much is

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Speaker 6: the truth? And I just was surprised, Uh, people I

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Speaker 6: really trust.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: The quarterback coach I've known forever said he was very

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Speaker 6: disappointed because he liked his tape. He said off tape,

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Speaker 6: he gave him a third round grade. And then when

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Speaker 6: they got him in their building or whoever the interviewed,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was a combine in their building,

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Speaker 6: just was not impressive and very disappointed with his attitude.

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Speaker 6: So that that stuff's real. To be honest with you, Wow,

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Speaker 6: that's uh, it is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But you know I was telling earlier, I was

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Speaker 5: saying that all of that doesn't matter. Now it's gone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a preferred, but it does matter in this

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Speaker 6: case if he acts the same way from as he

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Speaker 6: did before the draft, then it matters. If it's he

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Speaker 6: takes it as a new beginning. That's behind me. I'm

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Speaker 6: a baller, I'm gonna prepare. I'm a quarterback. He takes

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Speaker 6: it the right way, then he's got a chance because

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Speaker 6: he's a very talented quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I mean, that's what I mean by

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, because now you'll be graded on what

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Speaker 5: you do on the field, not.

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Speaker 4: A preseason in the classroom.

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Speaker 5: In the classroom, right, yeah, Well you're not gonna get

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Speaker 5: on the field if you don't do it in the classroom.

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Speaker 6: They just knows as alignment that that ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not. We're not about to go out there,

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Speaker 4: just roll the dice.

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Speaker 5: If you can't get it plays together in the classroom,

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Speaker 5: you won't be playing. And the fact that he is

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Speaker 5: starting today bodes well that he has a firm grasp

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Speaker 5: and understanding of the playbook. He's looked well, like you said,

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Speaker 5: eleven for eighteen, one hundred and three yards, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: four rushes and twenty yards. So for me, all of

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Speaker 5: the speeding tickets, of the batched interviews, the dropping in

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Speaker 5: the draft, it doesn't matter. What matters now is what

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Speaker 5: you put on tape. If you come out here and

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Speaker 5: you play well, you command the team, you lead the team,

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Speaker 5: all of that's forgotten because now when rero football is played.

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Speaker 4: What you did to get here is it is? What

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Speaker 4: it is? What are you going to do to stay here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I would agree. Now we'll see how he handles himself.

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Speaker 6: I'll find out what the tape looks like, because you know,

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Speaker 6: we're only seeing numbers here. I need to get a

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Speaker 6: better grasp of what it really looked like.

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Speaker 5: But I was looking a good He missed some open throws,

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Speaker 5: but he scrambled. He hasn't looked rattled. He's you know,

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Speaker 5: not watching the plays at the line of scrimmage, no

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Speaker 5: fumble snaps all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So you know, for me, just watching the first half,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not sure he'll play in the second half.

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Speaker 4: It's it's I'm I'm pleased with what with what he did.

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Speaker 6: Because by the way, and they don't have a future quarterback,

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Speaker 6: so this this is very important. They have no idea.

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Speaker 4: We said there, they don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: They have no idea.

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Speaker 4: Oh they had six on the roster and no starting quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Watson the forest transaction in NFL history, right, that's and

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Speaker 6: I mean it is it's it's the worst move I've seen.

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Speaker 6: And it's funny thing is he would have been an Eagle.

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Speaker 6: I feel strongly had he wanted to be an Eagle.

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Speaker 6: But that's another that's a that's a thirty for thirty.

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Speaker 6: They were the Eagles pursued. I mean they were really

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Speaker 6: in again and trying to get Watson, but you know,

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Speaker 6: just they didn't go far enough. But Cleveland now has

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Speaker 6: got to figure it out. But you know, they have

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Speaker 6: an interesting roster. That they have a good roster. People

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Speaker 6: don't realize that because they were so bad last season.

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Speaker 6: But it's been about the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan, host of Inside the Birds Are Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: NFL insider, Adam, we got to let you go real

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Speaker 3: quick where you headed to this week. I know you

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Speaker 3: said eight would you say eight teams?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if it all works out and whether you know

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Speaker 6: whether and what or the case may be. But I

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Speaker 6: got a joint. I got a night practice in Philly

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Speaker 6: at their stadium. They have one practice where the fans

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Speaker 6: get to go and they usually get forty or fifty thousand.

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Speaker 6: So that's at the Lincoln Financial Stadium Sunday night. And

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Speaker 6: then if all goes to all Washington and the Giants

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Speaker 6: Jets joint, Brown's Eagles joint, Bucks Steelers joint. And then

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Speaker 6: the following week. See, I go week by week. So

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Speaker 6: that's what I got for next week? Are you I drive?

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Speaker 6: This is a dry It's funny. I live in the

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Speaker 6: Philly area, so this is a driving trip. And then

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Speaker 6: the last the eighteenth or the twenty second, I'm hoping

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Speaker 6: to fly out west if all works out, I I do.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to I'm not going to Henders. I'm

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Speaker 6: not going to Nevada because I refused to be in

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Speaker 6: that weather.

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Speaker 4: But you did thirty straight days of one hundred degrees

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Speaker 4: in Houston.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but I'd rather be you know where

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Speaker 6: I'd like to go is La. I'd see the Rams

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Speaker 6: and Elsagundo with the Choges.

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Speaker 4: The judges. Adam Kappaman, we appreciate your time. Thank you

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Speaker 4: for your.

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Speaker 3: Time, and again follow Adam on Twitter at Kaplan NFL

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Speaker 3: and of course the hosted the Inside the Birds podcast.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Adam, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: That was Adam Kaplan, host of Inside the Birds and

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Speaker 3: our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider. Let's not waste any

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Speaker 3: more Time News desk Steve Desager, what is trending?

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Speaker 9: We got three NFL exhibitions to update. Cleveland as the

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Speaker 9: halftime lead fourteen to seven at Carolina. Shador Sanders the

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Speaker 9: rookie starting tonight, eleven of eighteen, one hundred three yards,

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Speaker 9: two touchdowns. One of those was a short TD right

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Speaker 9: after Cleveland recovered a muff punt. It was Bryce Young

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Speaker 9: with a TD pass for the Panther, scoring New England

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Speaker 9: up twenty to three on Washington. In the second quarter,

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Speaker 9: the Patriots rookie Trevion Henderson returned the opening kickoff one

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Speaker 9: hundred yards for a touchdown. Drake May did have a

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Speaker 9: fumble as he was sacked. He only has twelve yards

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Speaker 9: passing in the first half, but he does have a

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Speaker 9: five yard touchdown run for the Pats.

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Speaker 6: Halftime.

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Speaker 9: At Atlanta, it's ten to seven Falcons over to Royd

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Speaker 9: Falcons with a fifty seven yard field goal and late

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Speaker 9: first half and Easton Stick touchdown pass. Stick the former

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Speaker 9: Charger preseason quarterback fifteen of eighteen through the air one

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Speaker 9: hundred and forty nine yards and the TD to Major

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Speaker 9: League Baseball. Houston still leads two nothing at the Yankees

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Speaker 9: in the bottom of the fifth on a two run

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Speaker 9: homer in the first from Jose Altuve Orioles over the

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Speaker 9: A's three to one bottom of the six. The Angels

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Speaker 9: have taken the lead at Detroit four to three, top

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Speaker 9: of the six, getting back to back homers off Trek Scooble,

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Speaker 9: who's out after allowing the four runs in four and

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Speaker 9: two third innings. Marlins lead five nothing at the Braves

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Speaker 9: bottom of the six. Reds a two to one leader

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Speaker 9: at Pittsburgh bottom of the seventh. It's the Guardian seven

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Speaker 9: to one at the White Sox top of the fourth.

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Speaker 9: Philadelphia star Kyle Schwarber with his forty first homer of

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Speaker 9: the season. The Phillies at Rangers game is tied one

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Speaker 9: to one in the second. Twins lead the Royals three

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Speaker 9: to one in the second. The Mets are up to

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Speaker 9: nothing after two at Milwaukee. Cub scoreless at Saint Louis,

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Speaker 9: bottom of the second in the NL Central, The Brewers

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Speaker 9: are first place, four games up on the Cubs. The

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Speaker 9: Celtics gave coach Joseph Missoula an extension the NBA's Christmas slate.

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Speaker 9: Five games should include Houston at the Lakers, Dallas at

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Speaker 9: Golden State. Three w NBA games tonight, including New York

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Speaker 9: up in the third quarter fifty two thirty eight at Dallas.

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Speaker 9: For Dallas, Page Beckers out with a bad back, and

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Speaker 9: for New York Breonna Stewart due to return in late

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Speaker 9: August from a bow and Bruce in her knee. Tommy

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Speaker 9: Fleetwood leads by four strokes in Memphis. Dustin Johnson tied

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Speaker 9: for the livegolf lead in Chicago with Sergio Garcia.

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Speaker 3: note of case. All right, so story of the night.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny from sometimes the content gods are

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Speaker 3: on our side because we we're planning on talking Shadoor

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Speaker 3: Sanders Cleveland Browns anyway to lead this hour because obviously,

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Speaker 3: of course that game the Cleveland Brown's playing the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: That game started at seven Eastern, so when we came

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Speaker 3: on air, it was just getting underway. Well, we are

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Speaker 3: now about midway through the third quarter. Shador Sanders is

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Speaker 3: still in still in eleven of nineteen, passing one hundred

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Speaker 3: and three yards two touchdowns. Cleveland Brown's up fourteen to seven.

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Speaker 4: Listen you know, I'll say.

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Speaker 3: This is you know, it kind of stinks on social media,

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Speaker 3: not that social media is a by, you know, a

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Speaker 3: reflection of anything. But you know, the people that thought

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Speaker 3: Shador was gonna be good, everybody's really happy. The people

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Speaker 3: that uh said he isn't gonna be good are saying

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Speaker 3: it's the preseason. It doesn't mean anything. You're a dude

711
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Speaker 3: who you had to earn your spot. I hope you

712
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Speaker 3: don't mind me saying it, but from my understanding, you

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Speaker 3: had to earn your spot in the preseason. So one,

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Speaker 3: I would love for you to tell the story of

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Speaker 3: how you did so in your rookie training camp, and

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Speaker 3: then two, what this performance means for Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 5: So ninety eight, I got drafted one hundred and ninety

719
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: ninth pick in the draft to the Atlanta Falcons. And

720
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Speaker 5: I was a left tackle coming out of San Diego State.

721
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Speaker 5: And when I got there, they had a perennial Pro

722
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Speaker 5: bowler and Bob Whitfield at the left tackle, and they

723
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 5: had about two other guys who had been in the

724
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Speaker 5: league and so on and so forth. So I was

725
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Speaker 5: about fourth on the depth chart. You know, she'd do

726
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Speaker 5: and I you know we're I think fifty four picks

727
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: apart from each other, so essentially we were in the

728
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Speaker 5: same position. And the thing that I knew that would

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Speaker 5: give me an advantage was learning the playbook immediately. So

730
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: all I did was just study the playbook. I didn't

731
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Speaker 5: want to go out, I don't want to do anything.

732
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: I just wanted to be prepared if I got an opportunity.

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: And Art Schell would call young players up to the

734
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Speaker 5: board and have them periodically draw plays to see if

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Speaker 5: they were grasping the offense. And so whenever I had

736
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 5: my chance to do that, I wouldn't just draw what

737
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Speaker 5: the offensive line did. I would draw what the running

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Speaker 5: backs did for the pass play. I would draw the

739
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Speaker 5: routes and the depth of the pocket, all of those things.

740
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Speaker 5: And it kind of made him look at me like,

741
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Speaker 5: huh okay. And so the first couple weeks in training camp,

742
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Speaker 5: I'm stuck over there in the log gem in left tackle.

743
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: Our right tackle gets hurt pulled is growing, so he

744
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Speaker 5: was out for some time, and so he moved me

745
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Speaker 5: over to second string right tackle. And what that did

746
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Speaker 5: was it gave me more reps and it gave me

747
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: more playing time in the preseason and so just doing

748
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Speaker 5: that battling in the preseason. I hadn't really played right tackle,

749
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 5: but I was figuring it out. And it came down

750
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Speaker 5: to the final preseason game when that starter was back

751
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Speaker 5: from injury. Cory Lucci, it was a free agent, came

752
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 5: over from Buffalo, and Art came over and sideline and said, Hey,

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Speaker 5: I think we're playing the Bengals that game. He said, hey,

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Speaker 5: e from Corey, Corey, You're going to start from You

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Speaker 5: play the second quarter, Corey, you play the third. E

756
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Speaker 5: From you play the fourth, and whoever plays the best

757
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Speaker 5: starts opening weekend. He said, right on the field, right there,

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Speaker 5: he put on the table what you were playing for,

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Speaker 5: so we wouldn't be confused. Wow, okay, he said, whoever

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Speaker 5: plays the best is our starter opening weekend next week.

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 5: And so I remember watching that first Normally, when you're

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Speaker 5: not in you got your helmet off, you know, I

764
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: might help it on, and my chin strap, bucket and

765
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: my mouthpiece in the whole first quarter, and I was

766
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Speaker 5: just chomping at the bit to get an opportunity and

767
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: went out there and I literally put it all out there.

768
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Speaker 5: Had no idea how I played. I knew I played hard.

769
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Speaker 5: That next morning, we're going down. Our training camp was

770
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Speaker 5: in Swannye, Georgia, and we stayed at the Falcon Inn

771
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Speaker 5: and Swannye, Georgia. And I was coming down from the

772
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Speaker 5: hotel and Corey was walking up and I was like,

773
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Speaker 5: what up, Corey? And he just walked past who I think, No, no, no,

774
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Speaker 5: one got something to eat in the training room whatever.

775
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Speaker 5: And then we had a team meeting. They had made

776
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Speaker 5: final cuts to team meeting. So I'm sitting at a

777
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 5: team meeting and I'm in there and I'm like, oh, snap,

778
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 5: Corey went up to the room. I'm gonna go get

779
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Speaker 5: him because it's gonna be late for the meeting. And

780
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Speaker 5: when I got up, Art looked at me, it was

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Speaker 5: like come here. He was standing outside. He called me

782
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Speaker 5: and said, hey, look, uh we just cut Corey. Wow,

783
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Speaker 5: congratulations You started next week at Carolina. Tell you two things.

784
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 5: Don't be afraid to be successful and don't go out

785
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: there and beat down your leg. And I was like okay,

786
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: and going on the road my rookie year to Carolina

787
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Speaker 5: to play against Kevin Green, somebody I had been watching

788
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: for a decade plus destroy offensive linemen. I had a

789
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Speaker 5: tough opening game. I mean, I think I gave up

790
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: two sacks, but we won and Art I was sitting

791
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: in the locker and Art said, hey man, congratulations, you

792
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 5: want your first NFL game. And I was like okay,

793
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 5: and he was like, don't worry about you. Was se

794
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 5: him again. You'll see him in Atlanta. I had a

795
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: much better game against him when we played Atlanta. But

796
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 5: I started my career in that moment. That preseason game,

797
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 5: that fourth preseason game, was the moment where my career

798
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 5: could have taken off or it could have stayed sidelined.

799
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Speaker 3: So the big theme to me is for anybody on

800
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Speaker 3: Twitter saying hey, yeah, that's preseason, it doesn't matter, your

801
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Speaker 3: response would be what it matters.

802
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 5: It matters more than you know. Teams NFL rosters are

803
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: built in the preseason. They're not built in train they're

804
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: not built in OTAs or during the year. The roster

805
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 5: is built in preseason training camp. That's you go to

806
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Speaker 5: camp with ninety guys, only fifty three survive.

807
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Speaker 7: They got six quarterbacks right now too, so you know,

808
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Speaker 7: you know.

809
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: Some heads are rolling.

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Speaker 5: All you can do is take each opportunity and give

811
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Speaker 5: every single thing you have to solidify a spot on

812
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Speaker 5: the opening day roster. That is the goal for a

813
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: late round draft pick, that is the goal. My first

814
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 5: initial goal going into training camp was I just want

815
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Speaker 5: to make the team. Then it became I just want

816
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: to be able to make the active roster. Then I

817
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 5: want to start right, and then you start going, I

818
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: end up. You know, well, obviously we won nineteen games,

819
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Speaker 5: eleven in a row, all the way up to the

820
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. I was the youngest player to ever start

821
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Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl. I was the fourth rookie in

822
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Speaker 5: NFL history to start all nineteen games including the Super Bowl. Wow,

823
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: and I was I made the All Rookie Team. Me

824
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Speaker 5: Peyton Manning, Fred Taylor, Kyle Turley, my linemate from San

825
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: Diego State, Like, we all made the Rookie team right

826
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Speaker 5: from a seventh round draft pick. That's how Robert Edwards

827
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Speaker 5: like that. That's how serious training camp in preseason is. Oh,

828
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Speaker 5: it matters. It matters, brother. You don't get your opportunity.

829
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Speaker 5: You don't get a lot of chances. Of course, like

830
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 5: you literally like you. And because coach, it's a test.

831
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Speaker 5: Coaches want to see and Art told us that to

832
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: see how we would respond. That's the whole point. He

833
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: gave us that information to see how we'd respond. I'm

834
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 5: a twenty two year old rookie and I'm just trying

835
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 5: to figure it out. And I'm looking around like, all right, well,

836
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: this is an opportunity. I don't even play right tackle,

837
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 5: but I'm playing it now and I played it my

838
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 5: first four years in the league.

839
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Speaker 4: An unbelievable story.

840
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Speaker 3: Shors did just pick up yet another first down right

841
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: now as we speak, stats are obviously updating in real time,

842
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: but the Browns are up fourteen to seven in the

843
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: third quarter and again driving two touchdown passes for Shador,

844
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what you know, the pass game

845
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: has opened up the run game because just a big

846
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: chunk on the ground. So just your overall evaluation, what

847
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: does it mean now? Obviously we I think everybody expects

848
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco to be the starting quarterback Week one, but

849
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel's banged up, Kenny Picketts banged up. You know,

850
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Speaker 3: Shador needed an opportunity, He gets it. What does it

851
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: mean going forward for him?

852
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 5: All right, Well, it means that he's positioned himself to compete.

853
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 5: We all know that they probably are going to start

854
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco. But they don't have to. True, they don't

855
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 5: have to if you're if you're performing at a high

856
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: clip now, Shudu or will get more reps with the

857
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: ones coming up because starters will play in the next

858
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: preseason game. What are you doing is just chipping away.

859
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Speaker 5: You're just chipping away at that depth chart. You will

860
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: get more opportunities based on how you're playing right now.

861
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: And that's all you can That's all you can want

862
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 5: as a competitor. As a player, all you want is

863
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: an opportunity to compete. So all you us do is

864
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Speaker 5: keep going. This is gonna be a opportunity for a

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Speaker 5: third scoring drive and an opportunity for him to put

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Speaker 5: three touchdowns up on the board. That's huge and your

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Speaker 5: first outing and NFL action preseason or not, he doesn't

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Speaker 5: have three turnovers.

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Speaker 4: I was just thinking that, yeah, right, well, well the

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Speaker 4: sack five times we've seen those games.

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Speaker 3: Well, And it's funny because the people who are saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: this means nothing. If it was the opposite, if it

873
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Speaker 3: was zero turk tds to buy and ts.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I told you, I told you you are you

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Speaker 10: are one thousand, right, That's that's how they are Aaron,

876
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Speaker 10: they will.

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Speaker 5: Change the narrative, switch it to whatever course fits their

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Speaker 5: point of view. Well, look, I told you couldn't play.

879
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Speaker 5: That's why he's a fifth round draft. He turned them

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Speaker 5: all over three times, three touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: It's just preseason. Well sorry, nouga, when you say something else, no, no,

882
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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 3: All I was gonna say was it has so far.

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Speaker 3: It is now late third quarter. He's still in the game,

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Speaker 3: so that's a great sign.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gone about as well as it could have.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'll let you break down the film, you know,

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Speaker 3: in a more detailed way. I mean a misthrow early,

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Speaker 3: but it looks like hypothetically could be leading them on

891
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Speaker 3: another touchdown drive, as he has led the Cleveland Browns

892
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Speaker 3: on a third touchdown drive. They are now up twenty

893
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Speaker 3: to seven, extra point pending late in the third quarter. Listen,

894
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Speaker 3: I have no affiliation to him. I'm happy for him,

895
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Speaker 3: I told you off the top.

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Speaker 9: You know.

897
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Speaker 3: To me, I feel like he is being treated like

898
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Speaker 3: Bronni James, as if he is only in the NFL

899
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Speaker 3: because of who his father is. No disrespect to Brani

900
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Speaker 3: on the basketball side, but it's the truth. Shador was

901
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Speaker 3: the Big twelve Player of the Year, the Offensive player

902
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Speaker 3: of the Year. Last year, he threw thirty seven touchdowns.

903
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Speaker 3: He completed seventy four percent of his passes. If you

904
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Speaker 3: want to say there's holes in his game, stuff to

905
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Speaker 3: work on, that's every rookie from cam Ward on down.

906
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Speaker 3: But I just thought, and again, by the way, is

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Speaker 3: some of it self inflicted? Probably? We had Adam kaplan

908
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Speaker 3: on earlier that said that said he did not interview

909
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Speaker 3: well during the process. Okay, But to your point, all

910
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: you can ask for is a chance. He's gotten it

911
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Speaker 3: three touchdown drives. Now Brown's up twenty one to seven

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Speaker 3: with Shador with two touchdown passes.

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Speaker 5: And I love the fact that he's playing the game. Yep,

914
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Speaker 5: He's playing the game. It's not a two series. And

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Speaker 5: you come out there. This is a huge sample size

916
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Speaker 5: for him coming in at halftime, make adjustments. How do

917
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Speaker 5: you come out of halftime? Like all of these things

918
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Speaker 5: are part of things that these teams need to know, yep,

919
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Speaker 5: that he can handle as a quarterback. Backed up, they

920
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Speaker 5: just drove down the field like all of those things.

921
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Speaker 5: Short yard is fourth down. They're one for two on

922
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Speaker 5: fourth down conversions. All of those things you want to

923
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Speaker 5: know about the guy who's going to be the signal

924
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Speaker 5: caller for you.

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Speaker 3: Well, even on the possession before he was backed up

926
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Speaker 3: basically on his own one yard line and took a

927
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Speaker 3: short pass just to make it easier to punt. I mean,

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Speaker 3: those are like the little things that you know he

929
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Speaker 3: could have tried to chuck it down field and pick

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Speaker 3: up the big play.

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Speaker 4: It's like, no, man, it e's your first punter.

932
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Speaker 3: Flip the field that you know the defense gets a

933
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Speaker 3: stop now all of a sudden. So Schador has been fantastic.

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Speaker 3: To Ephram's point, you know, you can't say it means

935
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Speaker 3: nothing when the same people would have said that it

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Speaker 3: meant something if he wasn't playing. Well, you know, I'll

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Speaker 3: be gry Parker Okay, yeah, yeah, we did. Hear from

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker would.

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Speaker 4: Be going crazy, right, I told you. I told you, Alex.

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Speaker 3: You want to you want to bring up the Rob

941
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Speaker 3: Parker group text from just by the way.

942
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Speaker 4: We love Rob. So if Rob here's this, after the

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Speaker 4: fact that I'm not criticizing Rob, I'm criticizing him. Go ahead, Alex.

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Speaker 11: So apparently Rob has no sense of a vacation or

945
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Speaker 11: knowing how it's time to chill or enjoy himself for

946
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Speaker 11: maybe when he's at Magic City, get another serving of wings.

947
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Speaker 11: Don't worry about the games, he texted us in the

948
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Speaker 11: group chat, and I quote apparently sand has just won

949
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Speaker 11: the Super Bowl. Too much made out of a first

950
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Speaker 11: preseason game. I refuse to be a part of it.

951
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Speaker 11: Hashtag Tim Tebow two point zero.

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Speaker 4: That's just a ridiculous take.

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Speaker 5: Rock Parker's crazy, man, He's crazy because to your point, Aaron,

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Speaker 5: if Schaduor had instead of two touchdowns and three scoring drives,

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Speaker 5: if he had two turnovers and and you know, missed

956
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Speaker 5: opportunities and missing throws, that's all he would be talking about.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't reply it was just preseason. It's just preseason, No, man,

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Speaker 5: this is how you make the team. Preseason is there

959
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Speaker 5: for a reason. It's therefore reason there would be no

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Speaker 5: Tom Brady without preseason.

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Speaker 4: Great call, Russell Wilson. Yeah, Russell Wilson, Like, what are

962
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Speaker 4: we talking?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: It matters, It really matters, It really does.

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Speaker 3: Shahdre Sanders Cleveland Brown's up twenty one to seven late

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Speaker 3: third quarter, two touchdown passes for Shador Sanders and a

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Speaker 3: third touchdown Drive just moments ago. This is the odd

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Speaker 3: couple of Fox Sports Radio. Kelvin and Rob will be

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Speaker 3: back on Monday, aratorus Ephrom salam In until ten pm

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Speaker 3: Eastern Time.

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Speaker 4: When I come back.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I do want to switch gears to an NBA story.

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Speaker 3: Steph Curry said something very interesting today and I actually

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Speaker 3: want your perspective as a big time NBA guy, Ephram.

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Speaker 3: We'll discuss Steph Curry's comments next Fox Sports for you