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Speaker 1: against the Chronicles podcast. Not with my homeboys, of course. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, we was having a cold conversation the other
Speaker 1: day and I tell James that some of them conversations
Speaker 1: we all be having the offline kind of make perfect episode.
Speaker 1: So let's sink up the phone and say this ship
Speaker 1: for the show, we were talking about the whole just
Speaker 1: premise of somebody having power and how that thirst for
Speaker 1: power has led to murder, mayhem and all kinds of
Speaker 1: other stuff. And I guess tonight we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: why why some people just feel this and they need
Speaker 1: to be in control of the situation. Because in any
Speaker 1: um and any kind of structured thing, you can have
Speaker 1: a hierarchy. You can have a guy that's the top,
Speaker 1: a dude that's in the middle, and the guy that's
Speaker 1: like the work of got us at the bottom. Everybody
Speaker 1: got to play their part in order for that whole
Speaker 1: machine to work, you know what I mean, not just
Speaker 1: the boss, but the middle people and the one to end.
Speaker 1: What why why do y'all think that is? Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be in power, even a little man wants to power.
Speaker 1: Point is you got it in the hood, you got
Speaker 1: it in politics, you got it all over the place. Um,
Speaker 1: you always got to have somebody in power. But that
Speaker 1: person you put in power, I want to keep the power.
Speaker 1: You got people that got power and don't know how
Speaker 1: to use power. They abuse it. You got. You got
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that's at the top that don't you shouldn't have power.
Speaker 1: And with power comes self destructions, with power comes comes
Speaker 1: everything above that. You know everybody can't do it. But
Speaker 1: you got cats that envy the motherfucker that got power.
Speaker 1: You got cats that I don't think that person should
Speaker 1: be in power and think they should be in power.
Speaker 1: Everybody want that recognition. And I don't give a funk
Speaker 1: what it is. I don't, I don't, I don't care
Speaker 1: what situation you got going on, if you're selling on
Speaker 1: the block, if you in prison, if you just just
Speaker 1: just run a Gaboner check and something. Somebody. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be in power. Everybody wants to take that next step. Everybody,
Speaker 1: well a lot of the people I know, the majority
Speaker 1: of the motherfucker's wants to be that that do And
Speaker 1: if you look at it, that dude is the one
Speaker 1: that shining. Everybody want to be the one that shine.
Speaker 1: And you know, you got a lot of motherfucker's out
Speaker 1: there that you know, if they just just just saying
Speaker 1: in our group, it's somebody that's mad or won't that
Speaker 1: want to be in that seat. I think we had
Speaker 1: this before you came eight. You know, it was Catch
Speaker 1: that wanted that seat and was Pistolf because they knew
Speaker 1: where it was going, They know what it's about, and
Speaker 1: they wanted to get there. They wanted they wanted that
Speaker 1: because regardless of what you do, like most motherfucker's in
Speaker 1: the hood, you know, they're not looked at us the
Speaker 1: big homie or that nigger or that motherfucking hood. But
Speaker 1: everybody know all the just from the hood, somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: put much. Somebody's gonna try to bring your name down
Speaker 1: because they want that spot instead of just getting in
Speaker 1: there and being that motherfucker. You know, they everybody won't
Speaker 1: shoot the easy way. You know what I think about that, James,
Speaker 1: I think is a false sense of there's a false power.
Speaker 1: Is almost like a phony construct because see everybody look
Speaker 1: at the person that's on top, like that's the spot
Speaker 1: I want, but they don't know what that person is
Speaker 1: going through this at the top. You know, they got
Speaker 1: a phrase heavy as the head that wears the crime.
Speaker 1: It's the reason, you know, there's the reason that saying
Speaker 1: come existed. Because you do to the top, that means
Speaker 1: more than likely you to do is taken all the
Speaker 1: stress from the situation. You're the one that gotta, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure that the ends is straight, that the money
Speaker 1: is straight, and everything else like that. Sometimes people want
Speaker 1: these they're not really They don't know what they're asking
Speaker 1: for when they say they want that power, because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of bullshit to come with it. That's why
Speaker 1: get the power. One don't know how to handle it.
Speaker 1: I mean power. Sometimes with power, you know, with having
Speaker 1: power and having that position, it's sometimes it's misleading because
Speaker 1: it makes people who they really aren't, you know, and
Speaker 1: say if you ain't really that motherfucker. Being in a
Speaker 1: position of power might make you feel that authority or something,
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of niggas quest to be
Speaker 1: that authority's figure. You feel me um, you know. But
Speaker 1: if you come from the walks of life we come from,
Speaker 1: you know, power is earned, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because niggas a lot of niggas feel like that brings
Speaker 1: you that respect or it brings you whatever. But like
Speaker 1: you said, some niggas can't deal with the power structure.
Speaker 1: Some niggas can't even a manifest being in power because
Speaker 1: it gets to taking over them and it gets to
Speaker 1: control of them in a way that sometimes leave people
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker's fucked up behind it, O man.
Speaker 1: And you see situations like that all the time. You've
Speaker 1: seen We've seen one of the greatest record labels and
Speaker 1: probably the past Spike probably you know, since Barry Gordon them,
Speaker 1: shouldn't them be? The death throw was incredible. Definitely they
Speaker 1: really had this man's going down. You know, just talking
Speaker 1: to James about some of the stuff that happened over there,
Speaker 1: it definitely seemed like it was a power struggle. No. Well,
Speaker 1: once he seen the power that he had, he didn't
Speaker 1: know how to channel that. He didn't he never had
Speaker 1: that type of power. And there's a lot of motherfucker's
Speaker 1: that that once they get that power or get in
Speaker 1: a position, they turned into a bugsy signal. They turned
Speaker 1: into you know that guy. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Just like police officers, Doug, you can have a motherfucker
Speaker 1: been bullied off through school, all through high school. The
Speaker 1: girls didn't like him the whole nine. Not a police
Speaker 1: officer that give him a sense of power and someone
Speaker 1: check that power and run with it. Now that I
Speaker 1: can do the ship that motherfucker's did to me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's power. What you can't do
Speaker 1: outside of that bad Now I'm the point. I'm in
Speaker 1: a position where I can show force that I'm that
Speaker 1: motherfucker and that's all power is. But some some people
Speaker 1: just don't need to possess it. They can't, they can't
Speaker 1: deal with it. Yeah, some real serious stuff. When you know,
Speaker 1: me and James I had thought we kind of had
Speaker 1: a little debate about it. I think that black people,
Speaker 1: I think we tried, but people, I really think that
Speaker 1: this stuff goes way back to Africa. You know, we
Speaker 1: got tribes in Africa. It reminds me the same thing
Speaker 1: that we got over you got this neighborhood over here.
Speaker 1: You've got this neighborhood right here, these group of people,
Speaker 1: and you've got that group of people. I think it's
Speaker 1: the same construct man. I think that, um, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing you got everybody. And just like people, especially
Speaker 1: in the streets, they're pushing for something that ain't really
Speaker 1: nothing that's real at tangible. You mean, he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're the top dog in the neighborhood. Now what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do with it? You don't own one of these
Speaker 1: big things over here. You don't own nothing. You just
Speaker 1: really just got a title this parbab. You'll get your
Speaker 1: head knocked off from the next man that want that spot.
Speaker 1: Power ain't no fantasy dog power is all around you.
Speaker 1: That ain't no fantasy bullshit. Powers all around you. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: possessed power that you just can't imagine. Some motherfucker's in
Speaker 1: the hood to go to to being the hood and
Speaker 1: have and be able to go to any motherfucking neighborhood
Speaker 1: of of of your choice, just say, hey, being a
Speaker 1: crypt and you got that power. You got that strength.
Speaker 1: When you go to different homies hoods and they nigga,
Speaker 1: your money ain't no good here, and nigga, we got you, man,
Speaker 1: that's problem. But the homies just looking like damn the
Speaker 1: bitches on my nigga like that. The homies is treating me,
Speaker 1: We gotta buya ship. They showing him blood power. Niggas
Speaker 1: don't like that. If you treat me like that, treat
Speaker 1: all of us like that. But you know, niggas don't
Speaker 1: see it that way, you know. So if you got
Speaker 1: a cat that and is wanting every munch, every hood
Speaker 1: is pretty much got damned there. The same ran the
Speaker 1: same way, got the same type of typical brothers in it,
Speaker 1: the whole nine. All this ship is just pretty much
Speaker 1: the same ship. But now it's getting to a point.
Speaker 1: Every year and in the hood, every year in school
Speaker 1: it gets watered down because at some point that gangster
Speaker 1: grows up, that gangstand there no more. So you always
Speaker 1: got somebody to take the place of that real motherfucker
Speaker 1: or that motherfucker that's in power. Should I say, you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, So it don't it, don't die,
Speaker 1: It don't die. You just got motherfucker's that's waiting to
Speaker 1: be in position a half power, and you got more.
Speaker 1: Some motherfucker's can't wait to get the power, so figure
Speaker 1: away how to get there sooner. So James would me,
Speaker 1: you was having this conversation yesterday, do you think that
Speaker 1: that's in all circles? And I know because it's definitely
Speaker 1: power that goes up inside of these buildings, you know,
Speaker 1: the record labels and everything else. It's definitely a hierarchy.
Speaker 1: It's definitely make anything happen he wanted to without asking
Speaker 1: nobody's permission. Then you guys, guys, that's permission for certain stuff.
Speaker 1: They power is limited, you feel what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: this is I guess this is a question for both
Speaker 1: of y'all, and either one of y'all can answer this.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible for a situation to grow
Speaker 1: without somebody trying to come up or do you think
Speaker 1: it's inevitable that that's what happened forre go ahead, they
Speaker 1: as far as what as far as is as trying
Speaker 1: to somebody trying to be in that position and power
Speaker 1: can something manifested? Yeah, it all depends on It all
Speaker 1: depends on who the person is, if he's if he's
Speaker 1: not a subject to that. You know, if everybody's on
Speaker 1: the same page and come to the table and they
Speaker 1: don't nobody have the ego that they have to be
Speaker 1: in a greater position than the next. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of situations where motherfucker's go into business or
Speaker 1: or construction together where I mean, we all feel like
Speaker 1: we're partners, just like we're here. Nobody has a position
Speaker 1: of power, feel like it's like, oh, well he got
Speaker 1: the lead over me or whatever. Everything is co equal.
Speaker 1: So if you got dudes who can manifest that from
Speaker 1: the gate and everybody's after the same goal. You just
Speaker 1: have to watch it because everything turns. You get me.
Speaker 1: Outside influences funk up a lot of ship. You get
Speaker 1: me some motherfucker's might be in your ear that might
Speaker 1: not be in the next motherfucker ear telling you you
Speaker 1: could be this man in position or this man in power.
Speaker 1: It's all about how the way you perceive it. Like
Speaker 1: I said, if you want to be one hundred with
Speaker 1: a nigger, it's up to you. To be one hundred,
Speaker 1: you gotta feel like your ego has to overtake the thing.
Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna suck up from the key right there,
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna be able to be that situation.
Speaker 1: You just have to find. To me, you just have
Speaker 1: to find niggas that's one hundred, and you'll be able
Speaker 1: to deal with type of ships like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: but talking cheap, you know what I'm saying. Actions prove
Speaker 1: a lot more than what niggas saying. You got a
Speaker 1: whole lot of brothers, just say, artists, you know you got,
Speaker 1: you got maybe forecasts in the group, you got podcasts
Speaker 1: in the group. It ain't too many that survived their
Speaker 1: careers without breaking up because power kicks in and one
Speaker 1: once more than the other. You see it in on
Speaker 1: the Temptations, Show me a uh A show a true
Speaker 1: story that like the Temptation story power no addition power
Speaker 1: with all the every group that I've seen, somebody gets
Speaker 1: mad because somebody wants the power. Somebody want to be
Speaker 1: bigger than the next man. You feel me. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just a process, and everybody want to go through
Speaker 1: that process, whether we I feel like we're on the
Speaker 1: same page, which the majority of brothers just do. But
Speaker 1: at some point somebody's gonna feel like, I'm not getting
Speaker 1: the same recognition as this brother. I'm not getting with
Speaker 1: the whoop like he's getting I'm not getting. Is my
Speaker 1: money the same? Oh they're on me or they're doing this,
Speaker 1: And everybody wants to possess the power, everybody, and it's
Speaker 1: it's just it's a cycle. We can't run from it.
Speaker 1: At somebody has to be in control at some point.
Speaker 1: And that's where like with gangster chronicles, knowing you you
Speaker 1: in control, We got this handle, but somebody has to
Speaker 1: take Somebody gotta be frontline, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And here I mean I don't see one of us
Speaker 1: feeling like, oh, doing this right, right, So that's what
Speaker 1: it is. But in every situation that Island dealt with
Speaker 1: and every situation that I don't seen, power is a
Speaker 1: motherfucker and it all destroy everything. Power and money destroys everything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We were speaking on sugar earlier.
Speaker 1: The only thing that that that destroyed should Knight was power.
Speaker 1: He had all the motherfucking money in the world, but
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a part of something he shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: He should have dealt with the money he shouldn't have
Speaker 1: never done with the the hands to cup bulls ship,
Speaker 1: you feel me. But the power that he had that
Speaker 1: he never had and now he possess it. You motherfucker's
Speaker 1: can't touch me. I'm that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it destroys every motherfucking by that's been in power.
Speaker 1: Sooner or later it catches your asses. Somebody gonna get
Speaker 1: that ass or you get voted out. And look at
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. He has so much motherfucking power. Why do
Speaker 1: you think that motherfucker act like that? Because he ain't
Speaker 1: shipped without that power. That was power. But this is
Speaker 1: what I feel like this right, I think everybody has
Speaker 1: to play and to know who they are, and you
Speaker 1: gotta be one with yourself. Eight, don't damn there one
Speaker 1: Grammys before. Don't sold me as a record. You got
Speaker 1: some of the biggest interviews online, shames you know, you
Speaker 1: don't broke the internet. You know, got closer damn there,
Speaker 1: you know, sixty seven million views on stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I played in my opposition like this.
Speaker 1: I have people like me on the show. But I've
Speaker 1: never had no problem with somebody saying polishing against the
Speaker 1: chronicles because of Big James and m c A. I'm
Speaker 1: telling them like, hey, come on, I don't care what
Speaker 1: just listen exactly. So I've never had the thought like, man,
Speaker 1: I wish I could pop like James. I wish I
Speaker 1: could be up there popping like hey, because I don't
Speaker 1: look at none of that. Yeah, you can't. And that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's why I think it is possible,
Speaker 1: like eight was saying earlier, as long as you would
Speaker 1: have don't look at it like that exactly. The first thing,
Speaker 1: you can't be jealous. You can't be envious of another
Speaker 1: nigga's success whatever there is. I mean, we've all done
Speaker 1: ship before. We got together and we have to congratulate
Speaker 1: each other on that. But in some circles, motherfucker's get
Speaker 1: jealous of your success and and sometimes it be the
Speaker 1: motherfucker right up under you who's upset with your success.
Speaker 1: And that kind of puzzles a lot of motherfucker's because
Speaker 1: you just want to be a normal mother's pucker, you
Speaker 1: feel me. I don't want to be the nigger in
Speaker 1: the position of power to give the orders and stay
Speaker 1: all this ship. Nigga. I just wanted I control what
Speaker 1: IE control. But a lot of niggas are envious of
Speaker 1: your success. That's where we have jealousy and a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of that bullshit that goes on. So
Speaker 1: once again, if you're able to handle being in a
Speaker 1: position of power, then it can go great for everyone
Speaker 1: that's around you. But then, like I said, there's some
Speaker 1: niggas who egos take effect and that power, that power surge, right, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't getting enough money or this motherfucker getting all
Speaker 1: this and getting it all that. So egos play a
Speaker 1: lot of part and niggas who wanted to capture the
Speaker 1: power ship and when you, like you said, sometimes with
Speaker 1: motherfucking a position of power, and they just get crazy
Speaker 1: and they don't know how to control it. That's we
Speaker 1: get to turn in on motherfucker's motherfucker's getting going like
Speaker 1: you ain't the motherfucker I knew a year ago. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't. Got a little money and got a little position.
Speaker 1: Now you want to start talking ship through me crazy?
Speaker 1: You know, that's when power gets the fucking up because
Speaker 1: the ego. So I think if you deal with niggas
Speaker 1: who are straightforward and just one hunting and everybody after
Speaker 1: the same goal of trying to be successful, get money
Speaker 1: on the table to feed your family and not try
Speaker 1: to outdo the next motherfucker, then that's when power never
Speaker 1: plays a position in the in there, you get me,
Speaker 1: because none of us are after that position of power.
Speaker 1: Like I don't give a funk about that ship you
Speaker 1: get me. I don't give a funk who in control
Speaker 1: or who say you are to sign what or whatever.
Speaker 1: Long as the nigga getting paid and everything is straight,
Speaker 1: then we're good. Yeah, you know, and and thing you'll
Speaker 1: check this out because on them, I know, and and
Speaker 1: I ain't talking to put their business out there, but
Speaker 1: I was. I used to listen to the Joe Buttons
Speaker 1: podcast right, found out man after eight years that they're
Speaker 1: not around no more, just because him and his homies
Speaker 1: or whatever fell out or whatever like that. So he
Speaker 1: just put the show on. Patreona fired them two kits,
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, you know when I see stuff
Speaker 1: like that, it's just like, damn, you have to really
Speaker 1: man keep eagles in check and anything that comes in.
Speaker 1: And like you said, hey, you said the key thing,
Speaker 1: well use the Aptor's dog. It's a motherfucker on the
Speaker 1: outside all the time. They really won't just see the
Speaker 1: whole ship break up anywhere. They James here e James,
Speaker 1: you know want you want? They still want the whole time.
Speaker 1: They're just sitting around starting a bunch of mess and
Speaker 1: use the situations get tour niggas like that dog that
Speaker 1: don't have no able to replace it. In the Podlint said,
Speaker 1: powers just is it's a delicate road to walk, man.
Speaker 1: People always want your position, especially and you ain't even
Speaker 1: trying to be in a position like that. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be the power man, the king pin or whatever.
Speaker 1: I just you know, motherfucker's coming together because they feel
Speaker 1: chemistry works, and that's what happens um, but you, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's always a motherfucker on the outside looking
Speaker 1: in who wants to be a part of what you
Speaker 1: control and because they want to, they want to put
Speaker 1: their hand in your cookie jars. Is basically, uh like,
Speaker 1: when you deal with motherfucker's who don't want to be
Speaker 1: that stand out or not trying to be that, you
Speaker 1: get get me that motherfucker. Team players is what I
Speaker 1: call them. Motherfucker. If you're a team player, then your
Speaker 1: longevity kind of works along. That's how I say about
Speaker 1: me in the music business and how I'm able to
Speaker 1: steal cap making records and people whatever, because just being
Speaker 1: humble in your longevity and not trying to be somebody
Speaker 1: that you not. Like I said, I've never I've never
Speaker 1: wanted to be in a position of of h I
Speaker 1: want to be able to control this and I say
Speaker 1: this and crack them with this, and you know some
Speaker 1: people can't handle that. Uh. Myself, I just want to
Speaker 1: be who I am as far as I don't need
Speaker 1: that claim of power and being in that position of
Speaker 1: being that number one or whatever, and especially in the
Speaker 1: position to get to telling motherfucker's what to do and
Speaker 1: ship like I said, because they bring egos and then
Speaker 1: you kind of that can kind of lose you at
Speaker 1: a point, especially when there's money involved and you know
Speaker 1: it's people around you that knew you before the success
Speaker 1: and ship you get the kind of forgetting that they
Speaker 1: was around before the successful ship and now you want
Speaker 1: to get the ordering them around and telling them what
Speaker 1: you can and Katon, you know, I'm a grown man
Speaker 1: and I don't feel none of that ship should the fact,
Speaker 1: if you're a grown man, then you shouldn't be trying
Speaker 1: to be in control of another motherfucking telling another motherfucker
Speaker 1: what to do. But then again, you know some people letting,
Speaker 1: some people let that ship happen because they want to
Speaker 1: be around that motherfucker who's claiming to be in power.
Speaker 1: You gave me, yeah for sure, all the all the
Speaker 1: time it might benefit me to, uh, you know, kiss
Speaker 1: the ass of the nigga who's in power. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't see that pursuit of power
Speaker 1: destroyed way more situations than it is built. Because when
Speaker 1: you have you've got some people that know how to
Speaker 1: use Powericy power is a good thing if using the
Speaker 1: correct way. If you got power, man, and you're sitting
Speaker 1: on these up with jobs and you're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of good people and stuff like that. That's from power
Speaker 1: is a good thing. When power is a bad thing,
Speaker 1: you get motherfucker's like eight off come and play. When
Speaker 1: eight off Hitler first hit the scene, he didn't come
Speaker 1: out there talking about, you know, doing all this and
Speaker 1: that's all the pover mayhem. He calls. He got people
Speaker 1: to slowly follow him and believe in his calls. The
Speaker 1: next thing you know, he was a manman some people
Speaker 1: Hitler was a perpetrator's goddamnselves. And once people found out
Speaker 1: who he truly was, he he went on the run
Speaker 1: to with all the power he had. Good night. He
Speaker 1: was a motherfucker too that had power, and it caught
Speaker 1: up with him. Yeah, motherfucker abused this power. That's why
Speaker 1: I caught up with him, because he used his power
Speaker 1: for for bullshit. You get me. It's it's it's the
Speaker 1: way you control being in that position because a lot
Speaker 1: of people people put you in those positions. You get me,
Speaker 1: You don't get there because of yourself and whatever is
Speaker 1: usually the time people put you in those positions of power.
Speaker 1: But then you tend to forget the because once you
Speaker 1: get there, man, the whole motherfucking script change. But and
Speaker 1: then it takes motherfucker's to expose your true self and
Speaker 1: knock you down a little bit for you to come
Speaker 1: back to reality. So it all depends on who you
Speaker 1: are and if you want that position now, if you
Speaker 1: want to be in that position, and you're able to
Speaker 1: open doors for motherfucker's and create jobs and be able
Speaker 1: to create motherfucker ship on the positive level, and sometimes
Speaker 1: being in power can be positive, you give me, especially
Speaker 1: if it's dealing with the white motherfucker's and you can
Speaker 1: pull some ship for us brothers and benefit us for
Speaker 1: a lot of ship, then being in power can go,
Speaker 1: you know, both ways. My homeboy, Mr meets me too.
Speaker 1: Loud Crewer told me someone day, right, He said that
Speaker 1: when you get a motherfucker that seemed like they change
Speaker 1: when they get power, money and stuff like that. He said,
Speaker 1: that person name changing, they just able to show who
Speaker 1: they really are. Now you're seeing the real them when
Speaker 1: they get the showing out. He said, they've been that person,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't talk all that ship before when it
Speaker 1: was you know, the broke righty of nigga. Not that
Speaker 1: they've got some fower. They gonna let you know. This
Speaker 1: is how I feel, and this is what itals I
Speaker 1: ain't sure. We see it all day every day, but hey,
Speaker 1: not to step off the subject, man, I want to
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Speaker 1: talking about. You've seen it pretty much throughout history. You know,
Speaker 1: our previous president, Donald Trump. I think every president, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta think about it. Just the president itself. You're
Speaker 1: pretty much in charge. You charge the United States, but
Speaker 1: you're pretty much probably the most powerful motherfucker on the planet.
Speaker 1: I mean our government, Our government is powerful. A lot
Speaker 1: of people already say that when you when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with the United States and the president, you're dealing with
Speaker 1: one of the top so you already thrust into the
Speaker 1: position of power. But like you said, as with history
Speaker 1: and with our presidency is concerned, a lot of those
Speaker 1: situations get manipulated because once motherfucker's sit in that seat
Speaker 1: and knowing you and that much power, you get to
Speaker 1: doing a lot of back doorship that you think and
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna come to light, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the times they do, because when you got that much power,
Speaker 1: it's just always motherfucker's who are ready to up you
Speaker 1: know that. It's it's a lot of motherfucker's are who
Speaker 1: want to destroy that because being in the presidency, you know,
Speaker 1: you already got sides with Democrats and Republicans and liberals,
Speaker 1: and you know, then you gotta deal with motherfucker's outside
Speaker 1: the country who feel like our ship is just as
Speaker 1: fucked up as it is anyway, because we're always trying
Speaker 1: to dig take our ship amongst people. So um, being
Speaker 1: in that position of power, ship United States is in
Speaker 1: power when it comes to that type of ship, you know.
Speaker 1: And and just imagine how much ship has gotten away
Speaker 1: with because you're in that position of power ship when
Speaker 1: you talk about the government and the presidency and ship
Speaker 1: like that, you're talking about with the most powerful motherfucker
Speaker 1: you get me. And even when they still try to
Speaker 1: do ship to motherfucker's or impeach them or bring them
Speaker 1: up on some ship, what do a motherfucker usually do?
Speaker 1: They usually resign or motherfuckers try to go after them
Speaker 1: and get them impeaching and ship still don't work. So
Speaker 1: to me, that's the biggest motherfucker see the power right there, Well,
Speaker 1: I would saying Trump is the most motherfucking gangster president
Speaker 1: we ever had. And you saw what they did when
Speaker 1: he did when he motherfucker's fried. I teach him. He
Speaker 1: had all them people lass and he's still talking ship
Speaker 1: to motherfucker's. If you funk with me, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get your ass. He's still out there. Don't get the
Speaker 1: funked up. I mean, James, dude, do you think that
Speaker 1: that that Trump was our most gangster is like manipulated
Speaker 1: or ship president. I'm sure it's the motherfucker's that's something
Speaker 1: done some crazy ship out there. I'm pretty sure no
Speaker 1: Trump was gangs. Trumps focus motherfucking mind. Trump said what
Speaker 1: he wanted to say, and he gambled every time, and
Speaker 1: every time he gambled, he wont. He wont all the
Speaker 1: way to the end. They tried to kick him out,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. They tried to do him. Man, he won
Speaker 1: every time a time come on and talk ship, and
Speaker 1: he talked ship too. He let motherfucker's you know, he
Speaker 1: told that motherfucker and Georgia, Hey, man, if you don't
Speaker 1: do what I say, he called him a pump to
Speaker 1: do the phone said, if you don't sign this bill,
Speaker 1: you go, he'll ask for have problems. Trump didn't give
Speaker 1: a Trump didn't give two fox. Trump was the most
Speaker 1: banks the motherfucker we ever had in office. We did
Speaker 1: is he played everybody's hand. He showed everybody's hand. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, because the white sucrimineship came
Speaker 1: out tenfolds. You've got caring's that came out. You got
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship came out because of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: You feel me. People in law enforcement came out because
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump showed their racism, showed all that ship.
Speaker 1: Every racist motherfuck out here came out and showed who
Speaker 1: they truly are. Your neighbors showed who they truly are
Speaker 1: because Donald Trump was your president and they thought and
Speaker 1: believed in that dude. One motherfucker. That man had power
Speaker 1: and he still gotta and he still gotta follow him
Speaker 1: and shames nothing to keep going back. I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep going back the ship. But he's a perfect case.
Speaker 1: Mooon and somebody that got the power. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that went to him. When did you first
Speaker 1: start noticing the changes within him? Like, when did you
Speaker 1: start notinging like the power kind of getting to him
Speaker 1: when he went from a green suit to a red one,
Speaker 1: when he started taking pictures for magazines, when he just
Speaker 1: just you know, to change any man, when he wanted
Speaker 1: to deal and when he started dealing with different people
Speaker 1: you know, from the hoods. He just felt like that dude.
Speaker 1: And you know she didn't understand it was the money
Speaker 1: that that that brung everybody toward him, that gravitate the
Speaker 1: to him. And that's that's why the niggas was with you.
Speaker 1: And money is a motherfucker. Money is a rule of
Speaker 1: all evil. And you had a cat that was able
Speaker 1: to buy that. You know what I'm saying, somebody in
Speaker 1: power that had power like that. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: really don't want to speak on shot I said that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm tired of talking about gangster princles. I'm
Speaker 1: tired of my foot is off ship now, dog, I
Speaker 1: ain't got no show. I'm you know, she'll during time
Speaker 1: and she'll gain't helping nobody out here. She'll get coaching.
Speaker 1: No chaos, No chaos. He had something that a lot
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's wanted, bro and that was power. From nothing
Speaker 1: to power is a motherfucker. But like I tell anybody,
Speaker 1: everybody can't possess or cannot be in power because they
Speaker 1: never felt it. And once they get it, they ain't
Speaker 1: gonna neither act. And it's gonna bring you down, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Probably gonna show the truth you
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it shows can't help me.
Speaker 1: You can't go around it, can't go around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the biggest thing what you just say, exams
Speaker 1: not you said that earlier. You get to see people
Speaker 1: who they truly are for theirselves. Sometimes it ain't man
Speaker 1: The majority of people that that that are being placed
Speaker 1: and put in power have never broke bread in such
Speaker 1: a manner. Let's say Donald Trump, Donald Trump and never
Speaker 1: fought for this country. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: ran from from being drafted. You know, he ain't never
Speaker 1: fought a war. So I don't even funk about that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if you ain't never
Speaker 1: broke bread with certain things in your life, and then
Speaker 1: here you are a part of it, and you're you're
Speaker 1: the head motherfucking you don't know, and you just react
Speaker 1: to everything that comes towards you, and your youth comes out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Donald Trump wasn't a politician.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was a businessman. From a businessman to a
Speaker 1: powerful the most powerful man in the world, fucked him up.
Speaker 1: And even with his businesses, you gotta think about up.
Speaker 1: He had a certain level of gangster reason to his
Speaker 1: business practices. He ran his businesses. That's how he ran
Speaker 1: his businesses, you know, Donald Trump. For him to just say,
Speaker 1: you know, Donald Trump a running three four million dollar
Speaker 1: building five bankruptcy on your ass, Now that's in gangs
Speaker 1: of ship right there. No, I mean, I ain't even
Speaker 1: tripping up to do bank account because a lot of
Speaker 1: motherfucker's in power ain't rich like that. You got power,
Speaker 1: uh power, you got street power, you got politician power,
Speaker 1: you got you got all different types of power, but
Speaker 1: it all runs out of the same motherfucking electricity. It's
Speaker 1: the same ship though, no matter how you cut it.
Speaker 1: You got uh mafia power. You got all kind of power.
Speaker 1: But just look at it. How many motherfucker's you know
Speaker 1: that you can obviously say, still possess that power you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think it's I think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of people that think they got power but don't
Speaker 1: really run ship. You can't think you got power of
Speaker 1: you ain't running nothing, brother, If you ain't got a
Speaker 1: bunch of motherfuckers behind you and you you you can
Speaker 1: see at your desk and say do this and do that,
Speaker 1: or you can tell the motherfucker to write this and
Speaker 1: send it there, or you can make a threat and
Speaker 1: and and make big on it. You ain't in power
Speaker 1: if you can't do that, and you ain't if you
Speaker 1: can see that, that's a different type of power. I
Speaker 1: think you almost got to separate the street ship and
Speaker 1: the other ship because what I'm talking about them dudes
Speaker 1: that may have let's say the supervisor of the market,
Speaker 1: you know how, motherfucker might get a promotion and start
Speaker 1: acting funny with everybody, start threatening motherfucker's if you don't
Speaker 1: have your ass in here early, you fired you out
Speaker 1: of here and all that ship same counsel. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think that's a motherfucker that got a false sense
Speaker 1: of powers. He don't know that motherfucker's still walk outside
Speaker 1: the job and get his ass wof. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying the motherfucker, but the motherfucker who don't went
Speaker 1: to power, don't think that. He don't think he and
Speaker 1: walk outside and get his ass whoops. I don't think
Speaker 1: that when I'm in a position of power, because I'll
Speaker 1: be thinking, how dare you? You're gonna nigam nigga in power,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna try to fuck me up because I
Speaker 1: haven't told you. You You gotta do something. It's some people
Speaker 1: who abuse the power and you can't do that because
Speaker 1: if you don't abuse it, then you don't have motherfucker's
Speaker 1: who are ready to kick your ass outside when you
Speaker 1: walk out the door. You feel me. It's one way
Speaker 1: of being in power and having respect for motherfucker's. Got
Speaker 1: a motherfucker be willing to work for you and do
Speaker 1: ship because they play in their position. I know what
Speaker 1: position I'm in. You know, maybe one day I'll be
Speaker 1: in power, but right now I know the position in
Speaker 1: But that comes with that comes with a different side,
Speaker 1: because the motherfuckering power gotta have the same respect for you.
Speaker 1: You get me. He can't have that motherfucking head like nigga.
Speaker 1: It's all me, It's all me, You get me. That's
Speaker 1: gonna have a motherfucker ready to pop your ass or
Speaker 1: do something to you when you walk out the door
Speaker 1: to oppose to the motherfucker who's empowered to go, hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this for you and we're gonna make
Speaker 1: this type of ship happen because I like what you've
Speaker 1: been doing and I want to see you come up.
Speaker 1: That's the motherfucker who's gonna fight for you. Even though
Speaker 1: they know you here and they're there, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: trying to work and get there. But if you got
Speaker 1: the motherfucker who want to be here and want to
Speaker 1: keep your ass down here, that's the motherfucker that's gonna
Speaker 1: hate you because you're abusing your power now. Because let's
Speaker 1: not forget motherfucker. You were standing right here with me,
Speaker 1: not just last year, you get me. You were standing
Speaker 1: in the same position you were. I was there last
Speaker 1: year when we were trying to piece up on the
Speaker 1: same forties or piece up on the same whatever, or
Speaker 1: we was in the same business class and something just
Speaker 1: happened and you were able to get that position over me.
Speaker 1: But don't start acting like, motherfucker, I don't know who
Speaker 1: you are. That's when you get a lot of hatred
Speaker 1: and a lot of bullshit because like nigga, I know you,
Speaker 1: you get me. That's where that comes from. For the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's who, like you said, for the motherfucker who get
Speaker 1: in power, and then the nigga be ready to beat
Speaker 1: his ass outside when he walked outside the office. You
Speaker 1: gotta be the same. You gotta be a humble nigger
Speaker 1: and power also, you get me because it's niggas that's
Speaker 1: still down there who got to do the sweeping or
Speaker 1: the hard lifting or the carrying. They still here and
Speaker 1: they see you every day. So you can't forget where
Speaker 1: you come from to when you be in that position
Speaker 1: of power. Yeah, and that's what I was saying, that
Speaker 1: that that a good leader. It's gonna almost half an
Speaker 1: over abundance of people that want to work with him
Speaker 1: just because he does the right ship. So it is
Speaker 1: so so we all both seeing the same ship. This
Speaker 1: the people are getting power of Northern handling. It definitely is.
Speaker 1: And then his motherfucker's who get in power, who want
Speaker 1: to see you fall under, so they're gonna have you
Speaker 1: doing all kind of bullshit. You give me just to
Speaker 1: keep their hands clean. You give me that's the motherfucking
Speaker 1: power to I want this ship done, this ship, did
Speaker 1: that ship done? And then I'm gonna trying to stay
Speaker 1: the clean man. You know, it's different positions of power.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker's You know, you have to watch you because
Speaker 1: let's just face it, it changes a motherfucker. Like we say,
Speaker 1: money changes a motherfucker, and all that time, nigga power
Speaker 1: change and nigga overnight, like nigga, the same nigga who
Speaker 1: was taking out the trash with me yesterday is thinking
Speaker 1: he the biggest motherfucker in the world today. That's what
Speaker 1: power do to you real, you know. On another note, man,
Speaker 1: something that really fucked me up, and I'll see a
Speaker 1: lot of people got a problem with it. Man. You
Speaker 1: see Tim t Boy about to get picked up again, right,
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, he's about to get you know
Speaker 1: erbra Mark, old college coach giving him a shot at
Speaker 1: a tight end. And I see all the stuff come
Speaker 1: out with the brothers, not like, howcome kat ain't got
Speaker 1: no shot, you know what I mean? How coome cat
Speaker 1: ain't got no Let's that But listen, that's Urban Meyer's power.
Speaker 1: He's able to bring a motherfucker in and played for
Speaker 1: him thirty years ago and bring him in and say, nigger,
Speaker 1: I'm in this position. I want him to start. Now,
Speaker 1: there's other motherfucker's who out here busting their ass who've
Speaker 1: been buying to get this shot, but Urban Meyer's power
Speaker 1: allows him to go, Nah, I want that motherfucker. I mean, there, there,
Speaker 1: you have it. It's all it's all different positions of power.
Speaker 1: You get me, who's gonna tell him that he can't.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna say no, you can't sign this motherfucker. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna tell him that? And that's why I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you cut. I'm glad you cut that easy looking
Speaker 1: because that's what I was gonna say. Urban Mars has
Speaker 1: the power to bring him in. That was his You know,
Speaker 1: he played for Urban Mars in Florida one champions played.
Speaker 1: He want to want the two national championships for Urban Meyers.
Speaker 1: So I don't give a funk if it's twenty years later,
Speaker 1: if if this motherfucker has been somebody who's always been
Speaker 1: in my hip pocket, and I've always said, if I
Speaker 1: get in that position of power, I'm gonna put you on. Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: What do you think he'd didn't put you on, man.
Speaker 1: You know they was talking about him. My thing was different.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hating home because he went out and
Speaker 1: got the job, you know what I'm saying. He when
Speaker 1: I then got him a contract. I hope he made
Speaker 1: the team. I thought Tim t Bow was a good
Speaker 1: football player. I just didn't think he was an NFL.
Speaker 1: He's a great college quarterback. But he's a great football player. Man.
Speaker 1: Why is everybody? Man? I mean, that's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: one of the biggest problems we have. We get mad
Speaker 1: and ship when somebody else made it. We don't congratulate.
Speaker 1: We we get mad and ship. We hate that ship
Speaker 1: or we want to put another motherfucking next beside and
Speaker 1: say he's greater than the next month. It don't matter,
Speaker 1: It don't matter. See somebody to give kaepern Nick his ship.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, you know what the thing it
Speaker 1: was and what people gotta remember to aid because you know,
Speaker 1: I'll be studying this shape. Colin Kaepernick is good. Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick make a whole lot of money. Though he makes
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of money off speaking engagements and everything else,
Speaker 1: he is far from poor. He is far from core
Speaker 1: and he's not broken. Exjames, Like you said, people always
Speaker 1: worried about some ship that don't really have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with them. And uh, I noticed, man, where we're
Speaker 1: getting out. Man, we at a very pivotal place man
Speaker 1: in this country right now as far as being black people, man,
Speaker 1: far as being black to where really we don't want
Speaker 1: to turn everything into an issue about black and white,
Speaker 1: even though it does going on. I'm saying, don't know
Speaker 1: should happened, but everything isn't about black and white all
Speaker 1: the time. Well, I look at it like this. You
Speaker 1: see Kaepernick on the sideline. Why is he on the sideline?
Speaker 1: And all of this ship came you know, he had
Speaker 1: a purpose and this purpose was one honey. So when
Speaker 1: all of this ship that came out and all of this,
Speaker 1: you know, George Floyd and all of this ship, everybody
Speaker 1: should have wanted to give him a job, get him
Speaker 1: man back his motherfucking job. He was right, and he
Speaker 1: proved everybody across this motherfucking across the board right. So
Speaker 1: what what what's the fucking problem? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody willing to admit that they was fucking wrong?
Speaker 1: And I think you will. I think Kaeth Nick will
Speaker 1: get back in the league if you want to come
Speaker 1: back in because at this point games none of us
Speaker 1: really know if Kathy, do you want to come back
Speaker 1: in the NFL? At this point, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody knows. Nobody knows that that dude wants to come
Speaker 1: back and not and and he's doing good forself. But
Speaker 1: everything about black and white all the time, I really
Speaker 1: just think it's and I think it might be some
Speaker 1: other stuff born with kat Who knows what's going on
Speaker 1: in the minds of the NFL. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Right when you say black and white, it's this is
Speaker 1: a black and white issue, you know what. Um. I
Speaker 1: think with Colin Kaepernick it was a more of um
Speaker 1: of people not understanding the issue of turning into some
Speaker 1: black and white stuff. I think what he did was
Speaker 1: noble and I think that what he did was in
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's case, he chose to exercise his reaching power.
Speaker 1: Again we got that word power right. He chose to
Speaker 1: use his reaching power to make a statement about something
Speaker 1: that he saw that was wrong. And I think that
Speaker 1: was very noble of him. And um, you know, so,
Speaker 1: whether the NFL brings him me in or not, He's
Speaker 1: probably made a way bigger statement as a activist than
Speaker 1: he ever could have as a player. This dude put
Speaker 1: it all on the mine and got on his knees
Speaker 1: and said, I'm not you know, I'm not going for
Speaker 1: this ship no more. It's a lot of ship going on,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going for this bullshit no more. Funk,
Speaker 1: this contract, fun everything else. He chose to make a
Speaker 1: stand and he got a lot of He made a
Speaker 1: lot of noise when he did it. Don't you think
Speaker 1: you're saying he made a lot of noise. But then,
Speaker 1: like you said, the powers that be has has has
Speaker 1: not allowed him in the further his profession. So that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Like you said, being in puff, being in power, you
Speaker 1: control a lot of ship when you on that aspect,
Speaker 1: and with the NFL failed, you know, there's there's no
Speaker 1: black owners or nothing like that. So yeah, I come
Speaker 1: So that's the way it is. I mean, like you said,
Speaker 1: who knows if he even wants to come back to
Speaker 1: the NFL, but probably at this point he just like
Speaker 1: fuck it right right about now. I mean, I've said
Speaker 1: what I had to say, I've advocated for ship, I've
Speaker 1: done what I had to do. So that's it with
Speaker 1: James mcntle still an m C and we're back with
Speaker 1: the gainst the Chronicles podcast is promised. Man, we in
Speaker 1: here man with a T M s on Big Gift's cracking. Bro,
Speaker 1: How you doing, kid? What's up? Back upon his motherfucker? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh thank you? Man. I see man, we could clear
Speaker 1: tonight O for shure. Yeah. And what I wanted to do, man,
Speaker 1: is like, because you know, it's being so many of
Speaker 1: you guys, you don't get a chance to ask all
Speaker 1: the questions that you really want to have because everything
Speaker 1: has pertained to the group at that time. We have
Speaker 1: fans and you know, hitting us up. Man, y'all gotta
Speaker 1: get big get back in because y'alln't asking about this.
Speaker 1: Y'all ask them about this. You ain't asking about that.
Speaker 1: Said okay on trip we got you. Okay, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna go back to night. Man, probably ask you some stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: hopefully ain't nobody else ever asked you before. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: go back to the basics. Man, you being a kid,
Speaker 1: you were born in Atlanta, right, yeah, going, you're born
Speaker 1: the raised You're being the kid in Atlanta. Man, What
Speaker 1: made you decide to pick up the microphone? What made
Speaker 1: me decide to pick up the microphone? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: a guy moved to my neighborhood named Ray Murray. Ray
Speaker 1: Murray is also a member of Organized Lords. Shout up
Speaker 1: to Ray Ray Murray. Um so well, Ray Murray moved
Speaker 1: to my neighborhood. Ray Murray was the first person to
Speaker 1: show me a drum machine. At the same time, in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, it was a lady named Gene carn during
Speaker 1: the seventies. She had a song called Closer Than Close. Well,
Speaker 1: she stayed on the back street in my neighborhood. Her
Speaker 1: son was my friend. His name was Joseph Carr m
Speaker 1: from there. The first time I went over to his house,
Speaker 1: it was five guys playing and then in her and
Speaker 1: in her driveway they were playing basketball and I asked
Speaker 1: my friend and I said, Joe, who is that? And
Speaker 1: he turned around and told me he said, that's a
Speaker 1: new edition they opening up for my mom as in
Speaker 1: the Islands. That was the first time that I saw
Speaker 1: and I met a group from there. That lady started
Speaker 1: taking me two shows. Peobo Bryson was her was her cousin.
Speaker 1: I met people Brison in her house. I met Steve
Speaker 1: Wonderer house. From there, she started taking me to the
Speaker 1: shows with her. I remember one time she said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you to my daughter. She had a
Speaker 1: younger daughter named Miriam. Mhm. She said, Miriam's having a
Speaker 1: birthday party. Can you go? I went with him that
Speaker 1: night and she had a birthday at the putting at
Speaker 1: the Pulton County Stadium. The people that had that she
Speaker 1: had the birthday party with was with it was Jackson Fine.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so he was around musical royalty. Now yeah,
Speaker 1: so I so really I came in looking at singers,
Speaker 1: looking at singers do their thing, um being being very
Speaker 1: much impressed with the way that she she had an outfits,
Speaker 1: the way she did her shoes. That's what GET learned
Speaker 1: all this stuff about being an entertainer. Wow. And I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that because one of the things that
Speaker 1: does stand out the box you with your fashion selection. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mother some of the most swaggys outfits of all time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so you get it
Speaker 1: from it comes from that time because that era R
Speaker 1: and B artist used to be like it was like
Speaker 1: um like um, what was the word that like it
Speaker 1: was like it was like a theatrical ensemble. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it was. It was parliament. It was like it was
Speaker 1: about expressing yourself, you know. Irbin and Fire was about
Speaker 1: you looking like the music. And at the time, people
Speaker 1: used to ask me all the time, like get where
Speaker 1: did you get your style from? Now? Something I got
Speaker 1: from her. But the other part of a gift style
Speaker 1: comprom wrestling. My Grandmoma used to take me seventeen. So
Speaker 1: I got to see Rick Flenn, I got to see
Speaker 1: the role boys. I got to see Austin Ido, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I got to see the wrestlers
Speaker 1: that they missed. And one thing I learned about them,
Speaker 1: and one thing that I picked up from them was
Speaker 1: showman shield, So I incorporated that into the round. You
Speaker 1: know what, that's real interests. And you say that, man,
Speaker 1: because me and my god brother j Bobcat was talking
Speaker 1: another day and he said, man, rapping number pro wrestling
Speaker 1: shot off shot out about Big Bro Bobcat and he said,
Speaker 1: rapping number pro Wrestling Man. Some of the most curiosmatic
Speaker 1: characters of all time, Junkyard Dog, the Road Warriors, you
Speaker 1: know what he's going, Bundy Broke, you know I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, ros You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: A man, how many how many rappers have had borrowed
Speaker 1: from Dustin Rhodes, like barred from Rick Fleair, like like
Speaker 1: they styled that the mouthpiece was just impeccable back then.
Speaker 1: I tell you, I'm fifty years old. Nice to watch
Speaker 1: n w A came on TV, NUP Wrestling, and w
Speaker 1: E ship ain't got shipped on n w wad Man
Speaker 1: keen Ric Flair come out there with the thing, and
Speaker 1: he the man, he got his came on. Man, he
Speaker 1: got a brow all on his arm. And you're talking
Speaker 1: that this ship. Man, it wasn't it wasn't like it. Dog,
Speaker 1: it wasn't I like it, man, especially during them days.
Speaker 1: And I got to see Andre the Giant Line, so
Speaker 1: you know, I got to see people like the Barbarian,
Speaker 1: you know, the Number two, the Great Kabuki. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're talking about some old school ship.
Speaker 1: That's a real nineteen n w A ship right there, Dog.
Speaker 1: Because I went downtown of the Cleveland Arena. My mom
Speaker 1: had told me if I wanted this weight lifting competition,
Speaker 1: she was gonna buy me tickets to go see King
Speaker 1: Can Bunney. It was keeping Buney against Jake. Why the
Speaker 1: junkyard dog. I don't want to remember. When King Kong
Speaker 1: Bunney he turned good for a minute and on all
Speaker 1: the holies. At the end of the show, something happened,
Speaker 1: you know, jumped in the ring. Fundy turned on j
Speaker 1: Y d and and then the mother I used to
Speaker 1: jump off the rope and the splash on. I said,
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill jump yard dog. So you need not
Speaker 1: know when it's a little kid dog, I'm thinking junkyard dog.
Speaker 1: Don't guy broke off. But he wrestling and Cleveland against
Speaker 1: King Kong Bundy, and that's when King called Bundy had
Speaker 1: the challenge that any man that can body slam and
Speaker 1: then give him a million dollars. You remember that had
Speaker 1: him on the rocks. Jade got on all fours towards
Speaker 1: end and start hitting him with the little here bunting them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm jumping all for. He got up
Speaker 1: King Kom Bundy because this already ended. J Wade slung
Speaker 1: into the road, came back and picked this big ends
Speaker 1: and slammed him. That was all this memory of my life. Dog.
Speaker 1: And when he bounded is a boundary in then he
Speaker 1: was man and so you know I could definitely man,
Speaker 1: it all makes sense now, man, because a lot of
Speaker 1: people that was the number one question. Where did you
Speaker 1: get your fashion sense from? And it makes sense now
Speaker 1: Ye be in the wrong. The R and B C.
Speaker 1: The ladies of the molded you and you was around stars.
Speaker 1: So that's where you start. When you learned how the
Speaker 1: kids show you know, you know, project your charisma, that's
Speaker 1: where getting That's where I get it from. This lady
Speaker 1: name Gene Card and she uh, she gave, She gave
Speaker 1: us everything. She was the first person to buy equipment.
Speaker 1: You know, she put a studio on her for her son.
Speaker 1: I mean when the first person that we performed for
Speaker 1: was Brian read for the Face Records when they first
Speaker 1: got to town, and you know from them, it was
Speaker 1: just like we just put our work in, man and
Speaker 1: to it came around to us our time to go over. Sure.
Speaker 1: So so let me keep on going with this song.
Speaker 1: You see, the member of the Dungeon family had broke
Speaker 1: me in already. Did you know the other group members
Speaker 1: at this time? Did you already know them? Yeah? Me, Timoko, Joe.
Speaker 1: We all went to school together and made high school.
Speaker 1: Uh Clod dropped out in the ninth grade. But we
Speaker 1: always knew Low. We knew local. Low was always hating
Speaker 1: with the older kids, so you know, like, um, I
Speaker 1: remember one day I went over to Southwest Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Coo Joe Good. It was just him a Low battle
Speaker 1: And from that time I've seen a Low step back
Speaker 1: and started singing. And that was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever seen anybody do anything like that. So I ran
Speaker 1: back to organize nor it's and I said, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: it's just look dude on the west side, man, he's
Speaker 1: singing wrap. I ain't never seen nothing like it before.
Speaker 1: And that week they brought Low to the dungeon. Outcast
Speaker 1: was already there, and once Low came, I think the
Speaker 1: synergy of everything it just started from there because Low
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand and Big Boy, they're all the same age,
Speaker 1: Lower and Lowering three thousand, being knowing each other since
Speaker 1: alternative school, so you know, like them last years of
Speaker 1: them being in school, they was an alternative school. Big
Speaker 1: Boy had to stay in school or he was gonna
Speaker 1: get sent back to Savallao. So Big Boy he graduated
Speaker 1: with a three point eight, you know, a school so
Speaker 1: he did very well. Dre. Dre went back after the
Speaker 1: outcast came back, came out and got his g d
Speaker 1: Oh wow, man, you know it's crazy man. It's like
Speaker 1: I think some of them guys man are so creative
Speaker 1: they can't function in the normal school setting. It's just
Speaker 1: too slow for them. Almost. Yeah, it's always been like that,
Speaker 1: like when you get to know people like Low and
Speaker 1: people like both of them geminis. Yeah, man, they very
Speaker 1: They very about what they won't. They understand what they
Speaker 1: won't even if the world don't see it. They know
Speaker 1: what they won't already. The motherfucker's sure. So me being atars,
Speaker 1: I understand them very much. And I and uh. It
Speaker 1: was great to just watch them blurve. It was great
Speaker 1: to watch them then then turn into what they turned into.
Speaker 1: It was like one day we got a carpo rico.
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, Bray rate Bray yelled up to Uh,
Speaker 1: to my job, man, these two kids coming over. My
Speaker 1: sisters told me abody to go to try Cities. I
Speaker 1: want to play some music, see if they're good enough.
Speaker 1: Happy to be the drain I played. I played, uh
Speaker 1: the Docts Effects remix in my conform and they wrapped
Speaker 1: to it went off and the rest of history. Wow. Man,
Speaker 1: so y'all just you know what, Let's let's go to
Speaker 1: that Dungeon Family thing for a minute, man, because that
Speaker 1: was the most I would say, man, that was the
Speaker 1: first on the Dungeon Family was the first like super
Speaker 1: producer crew in the South. Yeah, they predate these about
Speaker 1: a pound and you know all of them. And they
Speaker 1: really showed that the producer man is the one behind
Speaker 1: the music. Guinea labelers are really flourished. Always has a
Speaker 1: big one main producer or a group of producers behind it.
Speaker 1: About that energy, because you're talking about some legendary stuff now, man,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm just a fly on the wall right now.
Speaker 1: Well it was so ain't about organized. It was like
Speaker 1: um sleeping which is uh sleepy Brown. You know his
Speaker 1: father is the is the lead single brick. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yes, that's his fathers. So you gotta understand
Speaker 1: it from his father being the lead single brick, me
Speaker 1: coming from gene corn Street and Enrico being the equivalent
Speaker 1: of what puck dad he is in the South. Rica
Speaker 1: always been streetcat Rico with driving his old schools to
Speaker 1: middle school. Yea, always had his own car. He always
Speaker 1: had his own money, so it's right. Rica always been
Speaker 1: our leader in that sense. He was the one that
Speaker 1: he big rule about the first drum machine. Rico got
Speaker 1: us the dungeon and then he moved twenty five guys
Speaker 1: in with his mom and his two sisters, and the
Speaker 1: using never stopped until we gotta deal. And that's crazy.
Speaker 1: How long was that process? At least from U N
Speaker 1: to ninety four. There's worth a lot of and and
Speaker 1: and all the reasonal people stayed the course. That was
Speaker 1: different at the beginning to the end. Huh. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: all of us been together since we've been kids. That's dope, man,
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the difference between Dudget family and
Speaker 1: everybody else. Everybody else came in the in the industry,
Speaker 1: they were put together. We came together. Yea. It was
Speaker 1: more organic. And that's what you can tell them about
Speaker 1: the ways because you know, nowadays you try to get
Speaker 1: a group of kids together and try to get them,
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere in developing everything. If a man shaken
Speaker 1: by that, the next month, they already talking about breaking
Speaker 1: up and bouncing. Yeah, that's uh. I think that's the
Speaker 1: world we live in. Everybody a d d they ain't
Speaker 1: got no time for nothing. But you know doing that time,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I heroes with Scott Face. You know,
Speaker 1: I said, I hear those was with Ghetto Boys. I
Speaker 1: hear rose. While we was doing the Outcast first album,
Speaker 1: we were listening to eight Ball m j G Crawled
Speaker 1: the Bricks album and we were listening to Big Mike
Speaker 1: so serious. Oh Big Mike, man, you know, not to
Speaker 1: cut you off, dog. Big Mike got one of the
Speaker 1: most slamming the Southern plastics ever. Because you gotta remember
Speaker 1: he had the perfect set up because I heard him
Speaker 1: when I was playing ball in school and the Convicts
Speaker 1: when he was with LOWERD three too. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: who was this dude? Because he always had like that
Speaker 1: little stutter step float to him. It was just differently
Speaker 1: anything else that was especially coming from the South at
Speaker 1: that time. You know. Yeah, you know when he the
Speaker 1: King and I love Willie you to death, will don't
Speaker 1: put hands on the dog when you see me. When
Speaker 1: Willie you left the Ghetto Boards, when took when he
Speaker 1: took one of the Get the Boys, I said, oh man,
Speaker 1: he give a face to run for his month. Yeah
Speaker 1: he uh, I really do think that that album. He
Speaker 1: came in, he filled in for with a D. He
Speaker 1: stepped up and he he could. He took that, He
Speaker 1: took that piece and he read with You know, he
Speaker 1: was a great edition to ghetto boys at that time,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. You know, not to go got work
Speaker 1: two months off a bunch of music, man, But you
Speaker 1: gotta give it up to that time. And it saw
Speaker 1: it was a special time because all these records was
Speaker 1: coming out, the sound of like movies. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a special time because I tell people that's doing them times.
Speaker 1: You you only had the team. There wasn't in it.
Speaker 1: So to be able to look at people cup like
Speaker 1: you came now, or to look at somebody else swag
Speaker 1: or how they're doing it or what they mentioned with
Speaker 1: you didn't have that. All you had was your heart
Speaker 1: and what you wanted to do with hip hop and
Speaker 1: and listening to Mike Dean and and Pimp C. I
Speaker 1: tell people all the time, we lost Pimp, we lost
Speaker 1: the sound, yeah exactly, the only one that produced with
Speaker 1: that organ, you know what I mean. So he put
Speaker 1: that church and he put that South in it exactly,
Speaker 1: can key word that church. Yeah, man, put that church
Speaker 1: in and I you know, like I really do feel
Speaker 1: like Beasts by the Pound. Uh. A lot of the
Speaker 1: producers back then, everybody, I just think, cared about their presentation.
Speaker 1: They cared about the music. And at the same time
Speaker 1: we still had the elders that were still coming in
Speaker 1: and laying them real sounds on that music during that time.
Speaker 1: M exactly. And you know one thing I wanted to say, man,
Speaker 1: about the South, it's very all of us from the church. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't care where you are. If you're a black person, man,
Speaker 1: you got some roots in the church somewhere. I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're the biggest heating on the planet to
Speaker 1: the church and you can get all the music like
Speaker 1: Pimp C with the Oregon it was Steve from the church. Man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know one thing, man, this is one of the
Speaker 1: questions I had, man, being a member of a group.
Speaker 1: It's always like, um, I ain't gonna say a hard thing,
Speaker 1: but you're dealing with a lot of different personalities. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with so many different personalities and some of
Speaker 1: them is right. Sometimes everybody right, they just feel that way.
Speaker 1: When you were stepped away from the group for a minute,
Speaker 1: what was your feeling did you just want to express
Speaker 1: yourself more. Did you feel like, man, I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta get Michael, get mine off real quick. Well, I
Speaker 1: can tell you this, Uh, I was busting the doing
Speaker 1: that you know at the time, because you know, people
Speaker 1: don't understand it. It was just a weird time for us.
Speaker 1: You gotta imagine this. We dropped, we dropped get rich
Speaker 1: to this, we dropped the album. The album sell eight
Speaker 1: hundred thousand in the first two months. At that same time,
Speaker 1: see leads the group, mm hmm. At that same time.
Speaker 1: L A. Reid was in school during that time. So
Speaker 1: just imagine that everything is fine. We got a number
Speaker 1: one record in l A. We're on the way to
Speaker 1: l A and we get a call and they tell
Speaker 1: us that l A just sold the face m right
Speaker 1: in the middle of your ship, Right in the middle
Speaker 1: WI ship, right, So just imagine this. You got two
Speaker 1: albums with outcasts out. This is our second album, and
Speaker 1: the label is saying that they're not even there anymore.
Speaker 1: So just imagine waking up and every way that you
Speaker 1: would learned how to promote your music, all the people,
Speaker 1: all the chickness, circuit places, the shows, the people you
Speaker 1: deal with, everything changed overnight. Wow, man, that had to
Speaker 1: be up feeling in the world. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like with the number one record and your label,
Speaker 1: Like yo, La Face is not here no more. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's as huh we don't even know them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So just imagine now when l A
Speaker 1: get to New York. He went to New York and
Speaker 1: he just took Pink with him from the lake. M hm.
Speaker 1: So just imagine when he get to New York. He like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get ce Long solo deal and give the
Speaker 1: solo deal. And I was like, what, well, now, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do that. You go here to put Celo out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Cots. I'm gonna get a label deal,
Speaker 1: put myself out, the group out, and and the other
Speaker 1: two they wanted in the Lumberjacks. I want to did
Speaker 1: a deal over that soul A hundred thousands. He did
Speaker 1: closet free, I did happing out. He did good. I
Speaker 1: did good on the Independence. At the same time, I'm
Speaker 1: running from the love on some other ship. So I
Speaker 1: get on the plane and I go to l A.
Speaker 1: I'm walking down the street, I run into I leave.
Speaker 1: I leave, like yo, Nelly recording up on Susset. Come
Speaker 1: to the house, meet NELLI. I go to the house,
Speaker 1: I meet Nelly. We record three songs that night. I
Speaker 1: called Conscious, say yo, Nili just offered me a deal.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with more, so I leave catch. I
Speaker 1: jumped on the road with Nelly. We dropped his first record,
Speaker 1: that Win Gold. We dropped Uh the Dirty and t
Speaker 1: Uh label album, That Win Go. We came back with
Speaker 1: switch Suit that dropped. That's sold eight million, and then
Speaker 1: we dropped Grills. That's so nine me y'alls on the road. No,
Speaker 1: we was on the road. There were we We went
Speaker 1: around the world and it was so funny that we
Speaker 1: was gone for five years. And then I ran in
Speaker 1: the sea low in New York. M I was. I
Speaker 1: was getting the number one record from b M I
Speaker 1: for having the number one record, and he was getting
Speaker 1: the number one record award for having crazy. First time
Speaker 1: we ever saw each other five years, he walked up
Speaker 1: and started fixing my clothes. What you've been doing it? Bro?
Speaker 1: You all right? He said, Man, we're gonna do another album.
Speaker 1: At times, I said cool seeing this thing. I know
Speaker 1: ship he called me. It was like, yo, you know
Speaker 1: I want you to come overseas with me. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: lived overseas with him. And man, we recorded, we we
Speaker 1: recorded Fuck you were Bruno Marr went around the world again.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's a beautiful thing though. Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1: And that's what people don't understand. Even when we was
Speaker 1: having that beef if really never was really with us.
Speaker 1: It was with our record company. How much work we
Speaker 1: had put it in around and nobody ever really gave
Speaker 1: us that time of day. You know, everybody was us man,
Speaker 1: Like everybody was scared of the mob we had. We
Speaker 1: had two or three photo shoots to go missing, you know,
Speaker 1: because people were just scared our expression of what we
Speaker 1: wanted to express about, you know, ship me out because
Speaker 1: a lot of people be tricking you know, bro, the
Speaker 1: way people view hip hop and the way I watched
Speaker 1: other people do hip hop, I ain't never approached it
Speaker 1: like that. I remember Pimp used to tell me all
Speaker 1: timeble like, man, get you need to get on the
Speaker 1: egg help. I'd be like, no, you do it better
Speaker 1: to be shouting ship yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, he'd
Speaker 1: be ready to get you going. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: can't do that. Shout I represent something else. And you
Speaker 1: gotta understand, at that time change or were good in
Speaker 1: mob and then it comes master p because cash money
Speaker 1: things would change it. And it got a little bit
Speaker 1: you know what, and this ain't no not to them.
Speaker 1: It got real ignorant. It got real like um and
Speaker 1: it was almost like employed man, like I set up
Speaker 1: see y'all scared society man, because you gotta remember what
Speaker 1: y'all first single was, dog don't nobody come out with
Speaker 1: the first single call self Therapy Man where they just
Speaker 1: really telling the truth from talking about the stuff that's
Speaker 1: going on the world and all the secret codes and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know that's here. The white folks don't.
Speaker 1: And we were We were never their friends. And when
Speaker 1: street raps started beating, what we knew was at another level.
Speaker 1: We knew that it was. It wasn't about what we wanted,
Speaker 1: is about what the system wanted at the time, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know, I said back and I watched stuff
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, wow, they'll make this type of music,
Speaker 1: uh there popular. But as as you see, during that time,
Speaker 1: they all turned their back on they never they never
Speaker 1: rewarded him, they never because they knew that that was
Speaker 1: something that they that it was changing the spectrum of
Speaker 1: what we were doing, trying to put an intelligent, rapperd thing,
Speaker 1: and then it was like they were going that way
Speaker 1: to bring the mentality back down, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know, and you gotta look at this, man,
Speaker 1: I truly believe. Man, the music effects are moved and
Speaker 1: the way we moved and everything in society it went
Speaker 1: from being about the hustler to being about being yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you notice that are at the same time
Speaker 1: you started getting songs about people drinking the Promethe zone
Speaker 1: popping peels and now it's at all time, how I'm
Speaker 1: just waiting for the song people come on talking about
Speaker 1: shooting the rain. I'm waiting for it. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why already that that's perfect it, Yeah exactly. You know said,
Speaker 1: ain't that promises even that leaning stuff is killing a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people, man. But what y'all represented, y'all
Speaker 1: representative intelligence man at a time that was needed, man,
Speaker 1: because y'all was a strong representation for the soft, and
Speaker 1: at one time it could be debatable if the soft
Speaker 1: had the best lyricists coming from down that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's and you gotta think about it, man, Like
Speaker 1: we kept hitting them, folks, says nine of four. We
Speaker 1: kept hitting them for every year. If it wasn't uhing
Speaker 1: was outcares. We hit them for for teen years straight.
Speaker 1: They could not they it wasn't nothing they could do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I'm talking like what
Speaker 1: it well, we was we Our first tour was the
Speaker 1: routs and the foolges mm hmm. If you if you
Speaker 1: used to put us on the scale, they've been gone,
Speaker 1: the rules been on TV. Man. I've been only here
Speaker 1: in the months since nine in four. Man, they ain't
Speaker 1: never like me because I really presented did just like
Speaker 1: this everything that everybody look at these other people for
Speaker 1: right now and say, oh they're so dope. They just that.
Speaker 1: It's like we were saying that ship twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: what become focus? Say they got some money now to
Speaker 1: attach it to, but the message were still the same.
Speaker 1: So so when you attach the money to it, then
Speaker 1: you can listen. But then again, hey, man, even the
Speaker 1: one they get the money to, they an't run nothing.
Speaker 1: They so so so far away from reality. Man. They
Speaker 1: only thing. Many ain't been to the corner show Stowbody
Speaker 1: twenty years. So people were the average person out here
Speaker 1: going through they don't you know mean so for me personally,
Speaker 1: I feel like God just give it good m all
Speaker 1: the perfect career because he kept us relevant for twenty
Speaker 1: years and say, hey man, you might not get yours
Speaker 1: right now, but you get your soon. And man to
Speaker 1: read to read reinvigorated this whole thing during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: to to find that the world, hey man, we didn't
Speaker 1: make no parties on the cape, that the world finally
Speaker 1: catching up to what we met with our first song
Speaker 1: and for it to come into place where we ourselves
Speaker 1: had to live it. It's like ship man, God real,
Speaker 1: you know, it's very real all day. And if you
Speaker 1: don't believe that, if you gonna find out one day
Speaker 1: for sure, you go for shure, find doctors, you go
Speaker 1: meet up for sure, and you will be judged and
Speaker 1: and and just think about the person like me that
Speaker 1: winded up and that seal therapy and that pandemic and said,
Speaker 1: why not our song came alive? The song came a
Speaker 1: line twenty year later. Yeah, y'all definitely predicted some stuff, man,
Speaker 1: Like if they came a live twenty year later than me. Everything, Yes,
Speaker 1: that I think real might be really. Oh man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, man, I can get deep with you
Speaker 1: right now. Get this a whole bunch of stuff they
Speaker 1: started to discover. They just gonna sleeve in there that
Speaker 1: it might do, this alien life. But ain't nobody paying attention.
Speaker 1: You know why, because and it's gonna sound hypocritical, they're
Speaker 1: too busy watching ship with other people got going on,
Speaker 1: and ain't nobody's paying attention. I'm making the point to
Speaker 1: watch the actual news and see what's going on around
Speaker 1: the world because they pretty much don't see it, that
Speaker 1: this alien life and they're seeing these spaceships, they're seeing stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know what they say in the Bible about that.
Speaker 1: That means you know, it's that means that that that
Speaker 1: means that, uh, George Clinton ain't crazy, Oh no, not
Speaker 1: at all, no dog. That means that what George told you,
Speaker 1: he said he's seen he's seen m M. So he
Speaker 1: was the only black man that during that time they
Speaker 1: were walking up out the spaceship because he said he
Speaker 1: seen one. Tell you twenty five years later that they real.
Speaker 1: But then when my father went to the Wars and
Speaker 1: and over in the in the Gulf during the nineties,
Speaker 1: he came back with pictures and showed me, son, it's
Speaker 1: it's spaciops on the walls over there. Now, how would
Speaker 1: them people know to write that on the wall that
Speaker 1: they've seen a thirty them drawings a thousand years old?
Speaker 1: Why would them folks right something on the wall they
Speaker 1: ain't too They tell you they've been here, they tell
Speaker 1: you they live here. Everything they say, it's over twenty
Speaker 1: some species of them. Now we go back to some
Speaker 1: of the movies when we were in the seventies. It
Speaker 1: was a movie that Roddy Roddy Piper was in put
Speaker 1: put on them glass and to see them people don't
Speaker 1: first talking optimistic people and all that other stuff. The
Speaker 1: reptiion racing all that. Man, we can get deep on
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's you know some other ship. I think y'all
Speaker 1: was on the people. You know what don't get I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you more. People starting to believe and stuff
Speaker 1: they start to see, man, because the thing hells when
Speaker 1: you look at stuff, just like the president, every single
Speaker 1: president don't be in the office is related somehow. Dog.
Speaker 1: That's right there where the white black don't don't it's flue.
Speaker 1: Obama says his as was related to them too, your mind.
Speaker 1: That's why he could deal with it so well. That's
Speaker 1: why he never broke cold. That you never got that.
Speaker 1: They never could make him act like a black. They
Speaker 1: never could make him act like what they call a nigga,
Speaker 1: because he already been trained for the job. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, from the time he came up from the
Speaker 1: Chicago Ranges, a charismatic city councilman rose with the presser.
Speaker 1: It was all the plan, dog, it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You know how you come up out of Chicago. The
Speaker 1: president come up out of Chicago and is the worst
Speaker 1: sitting in the United States when it comes to guns lines.
Speaker 1: That's on perfect mm hmm. And those white folks went
Speaker 1: out of vote for him and droves. Yeah, because he
Speaker 1: was safe and he was bad by the right, by
Speaker 1: by a certain group of white folks, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So with that being said, he was safe
Speaker 1: and he was a person that they deemed safe, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's why I say, even
Speaker 1: with music, that's why, bro, I ain't never wrote a
Speaker 1: dish rap, you know, I ain't never wrote a dish
Speaker 1: rap to another round. You know what, man, it's funny
Speaker 1: as you say that. Always thought that was like and
Speaker 1: I understand about the whole or the hip hop man,
Speaker 1: but my thing is this, if somebody would say something
Speaker 1: about me on the record, I'm a holler at them
Speaker 1: in person. If we got a real issue like that.
Speaker 1: All they thought that was like giving niggas advertisement because
Speaker 1: because in the nineties King, you know, you know where
Speaker 1: we come from, you know, it would get to and
Speaker 1: it wasn't know it was actually on time. It was
Speaker 1: it was so many time being on tour. You g
Speaker 1: came in and takes the boar them big boy and
Speaker 1: get the rum that man, you gotta get out of
Speaker 1: the way, man. So back then it wasn't no cameras.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that you know, folks got to it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you talk that we're gonna straighten that ship,
Speaker 1: you know what, respect like this. Mone I ain't never
Speaker 1: put nobody out there, but I don't seen a couple
Speaker 1: of vicious as spokens and some of these new catching
Speaker 1: the world. I'm like, for you put mind the folks,
Speaker 1: for I tell the truth about what happened in l
Speaker 1: A at the time, working that club. I'd be chipping
Speaker 1: about a lot of that king when I really be fine,
Speaker 1: and I would be like, man, a lot of the
Speaker 1: folks to be time, but they gangster. There so many
Speaker 1: stories and they ain't got rag tag and and put
Speaker 1: over folk head and slam that I did be like, Man,
Speaker 1: hey man, let me tell you they ain't touched good
Speaker 1: in moms since we've been in the game. Man, it
Speaker 1: ain't been no motherfucking distortion. It ain't been nothing. Anybody
Speaker 1: who was supposed to be the head motherful during that time.
Speaker 1: Get when it's set with him, look straight down like man,
Speaker 1: it ain't no hole over him, ain't no hope, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I look, I look at
Speaker 1: a lot of things. They're like the kids, ain't they're
Speaker 1: killing over nothing? Oh man, they're killing over nothing, man.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you, like, this is the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: This is what I always told my kids. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: the bullies mouth bleeds just like yours do that. Man,
Speaker 1: you can't take your heart. Never let no man treats
Speaker 1: you like you squad the feet because he believes just
Speaker 1: like you do. You even think in the mouth, whether
Speaker 1: you win lose a draw, They're not gonna mess with
Speaker 1: you no more. Stores and it was so funny. But
Speaker 1: l g that why a lot of time gift can't
Speaker 1: real to say nothing, because see a lot of the
Speaker 1: things are going on in the industry right now. You know,
Speaker 1: you know one they that I learned about the den
Speaker 1: the devil served too. The devil he give gifts too.
Speaker 1: He gives power to a lot of it, a whole
Speaker 1: lot of you seeing his manager, seeing his works manifest
Speaker 1: dearly in front of your eyes, and and and I know,
Speaker 1: just just look at everybody who famous king, everybody who
Speaker 1: got all the money, so much death around mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's just true. It's the fact. Because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something. The gifts that Satan give dog, they got
Speaker 1: a price tag on the man. They got a price
Speaker 1: tag on the gifts Dad, give man their turn. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna never go nowhere. They ain't gonna be no trickery.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be on everything. It's like I used
Speaker 1: to be a big fan of the Twilight Zone, right
Speaker 1: and there was a cattle that there was a gambler.
Speaker 1: He went into this one spot. Man he was hitting him,
Speaker 1: he was shaming and winning everything. Dude found out he
Speaker 1: was dead and he thought he was in heaven. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm tired of win him like everything
Speaker 1: he bet he would win. And the dude said, well, man,
Speaker 1: you are in other place and was laughing at him.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So to defin would give
Speaker 1: you what you think you want, but he's gonna give
Speaker 1: it to you. Man. The worst way possible to think
Speaker 1: about this as much bloody d folks say they got
Speaker 1: what if you got some money, where you're gonna go
Speaker 1: no where? Ship? That's some real stuff. Man, if you
Speaker 1: got you got some more money, And so my why
Speaker 1: are you gonna go? Know what? Ship? What makes the
Speaker 1: mother was just stay in your face when it's plenty
Speaker 1: of being there as a meeting. There's out here you'd
Speaker 1: never meet him, but never know him. So why y'all
Speaker 1: so addicted to the fame you're almost gotta in the
Speaker 1: light because you're scared of the dog exactly. And they
Speaker 1: can't telling you dog, that is because of the love
Speaker 1: of the music, right, It ain't that because I don't
Speaker 1: know him. Plenty of Scarface put our albums dog or
Speaker 1: don't do no promo, damn. And you don't see him nowhere.
Speaker 1: You just know he got a record out yeah, you
Speaker 1: might see him here and there on this and that, man,
Speaker 1: But you know, Scarface fan bases buys music. You know,
Speaker 1: they ain't gotta see no bunch of music videos by him.
Speaker 1: But these guys are addicted to the light. Man. But
Speaker 1: I mean they're addicted to all this right here, man,
Speaker 1: and then get I'm gonna tell you like this, if
Speaker 1: you know there's two A lot of these cats ain't
Speaker 1: got the bread that they think they do. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: well you know what it is. They ain't got the
Speaker 1: bread they say they do. And they really don't know
Speaker 1: about people that most partnerships. A lot of these vials
Speaker 1: and see how don't know everybody's business, but I know
Speaker 1: about certain things. People that we'll be talking hearing this stuff,
Speaker 1: or they tech giants they're doing this and that. No,
Speaker 1: it's a management team of people behind them using him
Speaker 1: as the face. This thing out. We don't get it
Speaker 1: twisted heat baby, but he's the pip and he's talking
Speaker 1: to say this and say come back and do this
Speaker 1: and do that. It's a lot of that came. Just
Speaker 1: imagine this. How can somebody say they're the biggest drug
Speaker 1: deal in the world. I don't nobody that that everybody
Speaker 1: get read on, ran up on shut him. That's it,
Speaker 1: hey man, speak on the gift, speak on the man.
Speaker 1: You gotta look where it comes from. Everything comes from
Speaker 1: New y'all, man, the first police. Oh that hip hop
Speaker 1: that she comes from New y'all. So you know the
Speaker 1: first rappers. They were working with them, poblic the sweet,
Speaker 1: the sweep the streets of the other rappers so they
Speaker 1: wouldn't get famous. And you come up, hey man, he
Speaker 1: was so shocked at the Takashi six nine ship. It
Speaker 1: was while you were shocked, you know, I'm saying everybody
Speaker 1: was so shocked, right, I said, man, y'all, she just
Speaker 1: saw this coming to model the way I'll believe this
Speaker 1: nig You know this, his ass gonna slid off again
Speaker 1: and kind of disappear. I think he's been working with
Speaker 1: them people though. Well he always was, Okay, they always was,
Speaker 1: because see they pulled him in the room and said
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay him to go through it. Yeah, somebody
Speaker 1: go through jail to act like they got them and
Speaker 1: they got them going to college. He wouldn't their mother.
Speaker 1: He like he was at the lot. He got brown.
Speaker 1: He buying cars? Who what what motheruck buy? A car
Speaker 1: from the pedal pan and he had a plant and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. And I told somebody this
Speaker 1: and they got man shout out to my partner Glasses
Speaker 1: Malan luckily m saying, man, this nigga is gonna come
Speaker 1: out of steal sale records and steal do what we did,
Speaker 1: because don't nobody give a funk about no codes, no ship.
Speaker 1: And then then he came out and that's the first
Speaker 1: thing to look he is said, we don't care. He
Speaker 1: told me because he had to. He should have told me.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh my god, it's over with niggas
Speaker 1: like us. Yeah. But at the same time too, this
Speaker 1: is what you gotta look at you. He was blew
Speaker 1: up on the internet. He was blew up on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Who controlled YouTube? Oh man, we already know what time
Speaker 1: you know, I'll cut in, Okay, So I go to jail.
Speaker 1: I got the whole stories on TMZ for a whole year.
Speaker 1: Person sitting in jail, how do we mother it news
Speaker 1: articles while you're sitting in the federal pin But they're
Speaker 1: doing good news articles. But you know, TIMZ, keep pressing up,
Speaker 1: keep your name in the press. Come on, can't nobody
Speaker 1: like me do that kind of stuff. No, not at all.
Speaker 1: They want to love so so at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you already know he had control. He controlled
Speaker 1: he on the team. They just they just had to
Speaker 1: make him look like, ain't nobody with him. He's let
Speaker 1: me ask you, if you think about it, Takashi, it
Speaker 1: ain't been one record company exact nowhere around him to
Speaker 1: say to connect him with somebody. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: you know he's somebody being well, I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: You know what they did. You know, the person that
Speaker 1: owns Universal Music, Um, his son is this, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he talk about like he's at
Speaker 1: a level you know, universal music and think they controlled
Speaker 1: something like eighty five some of the world's music or
Speaker 1: some ship like that. Yeah, yeah, so he being with sub'
Speaker 1: do he talk motherfucker's at the top of that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And at the time, you gotta look at it like this.
Speaker 1: They look at him, and they look at him. First
Speaker 1: of all, they looked at him like a commodity. They
Speaker 1: looked at him like, wow, the look the little Captain
Speaker 1: Brooklyn crunk this energy up. But they put him right
Speaker 1: in jail with him. They sat back and said he
Speaker 1: the right color. He the right color where you could
Speaker 1: take this man and destroy every street code with him,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you can always
Speaker 1: say he ain't built like that, he was just playing
Speaker 1: a role. As long as he wasn't black, you didn't
Speaker 1: have that kind of goddamn cold built in him. As
Speaker 1: far as as long as he was something else that
Speaker 1: he could always say, Hey, man, them folks did something
Speaker 1: to me, and I did something to them, and he
Speaker 1: polke to hear me that what it is? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So that's that's where we're going with
Speaker 1: it at this time. That's why you gotta understand, man,
Speaker 1: what are you in this music game? Artists? Are you
Speaker 1: in this music game to be uh? A mascot? Because
Speaker 1: let's saying like this, most of them up for the
Speaker 1: right now. The mascots we're doing, we're doing compilation alms,
Speaker 1: we're buying up the billboard and we can't produce nothing,
Speaker 1: no right, no, no saying or wrap nothing. But we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be a pop preach, give preach. You can
Speaker 1: know what it is, bro, And I truly believe it's
Speaker 1: a lot of people think it's a conspiracy James at
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I ain't trying to go of course,
Speaker 1: but man, do you know how many what's it called? Man?
Speaker 1: Not an induction, but it's about the dudes out here
Speaker 1: really selling make souls for this ship. Give yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're cool. We're giving the manhood and everything else. Dog,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of deep stories about some of your heroes.
Speaker 1: You know. I can't never speak on this, but I do.
Speaker 1: That's why you know, That's why you know King, that's
Speaker 1: why you know certain people a pick for the job.
Speaker 1: But I want you to but I want you to
Speaker 1: understand something too. Their music don't mean no when it's old.
Speaker 1: Don't mean nothing, that's all. It's like Micael wade Fold.
Speaker 1: They don't never mean nothing when it's old. And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you don't make music,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be deeper than the skin. You just you
Speaker 1: just a moment anyway, You're just so. When Rico said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna record y'all first album and Curtis made for
Speaker 1: your house, I knew that once that man started walking
Speaker 1: and start riding up in that in that weird checking
Speaker 1: looking on from that and in that studio we knew
Speaker 1: we had somebody to impress. We had to Chris him.
Speaker 1: So y'all actually recorded in Curtis Mayfield's creative in his house. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something. Curtis Mayfield is my most
Speaker 1: favorite artists of all time, Like over everybody, over, every rapper, over,
Speaker 1: every R and B. Dude, Curtis Mayfield is my guy,
Speaker 1: right man. He took me in his room. He showed
Speaker 1: me the original recordings a super fly. He had them
Speaker 1: all on his wall, and he took me into his
Speaker 1: and to his to his close, and he said, Gil,
Speaker 1: get that sweatsuit right there. I want you to have that.
Speaker 1: That's the sweatsuit that wold on soul for Come oh man,
Speaker 1: for real, that's Curtis may for a sweatsuit the gage.
Speaker 1: And that's crazy. Man. So you ain't been around just
Speaker 1: you know what, King you blessed man. You've been around
Speaker 1: some of you know, not just hip hop roarty man,
Speaker 1: but music roalthy period. You know, Curtis Mayfield, man, just
Speaker 1: to the way you came in the game. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't want to like divert nothing, man, but I want
Speaker 1: to take it somewhere because I really feel like the
Speaker 1: music y'all made it was so original. Didn't nobody to
Speaker 1: know how to Like to me, y'all had a sound.
Speaker 1: It was almost like from all the space or some ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was great because it made it well. Curtis told us, say,
Speaker 1: you know you're great when the music industry can't duplication.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's the real ship, man, he said, think
Speaker 1: about my ear of guilt. It wasn't no copies. You
Speaker 1: had to be great. You had to be great. It
Speaker 1: was different, man, it was a certain time in hip
Speaker 1: hop because I know people always talk about they go near,
Speaker 1: and I hate when they just specified to go near
Speaker 1: to one region. But it was a time the nineties man,
Speaker 1: that were Everything that was coming out was different. It
Speaker 1: had some substance to it, dog and it was great. Ship.
Speaker 1: It was just great. They killed that because they couldn't
Speaker 1: duplicate it. They couldn't duplicate it, so they killed it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They could stay still controlled
Speaker 1: it from uptop. At the same time, That's why I wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, when they run them lists off talking about
Speaker 1: this man, this man, that man, look Man them forehead
Speaker 1: one album, Man Get Out of Here Man Them fore
Speaker 1: had one album man, no come out that man, they've
Speaker 1: probably had a consecutive album. But but that he didn't
Speaker 1: live a long enough and but that he had wound.
Speaker 1: So but hey, man, when you put albums up against everybody,
Speaker 1: I'll say, great, man, we smoked all y'all top team. Man,
Speaker 1: come on in. I can't at pop wreckers. Wait for
Speaker 1: Jake got to the edge to the end on bro,
Speaker 1: we're talking about miss Jackson. We're talking about balls over
Speaker 1: bad Dad. We're talk my pop reppers. Now you had one.
Speaker 1: Rest of them were rap repers. Them boys kept dropping
Speaker 1: pop record at the pop wrecker at the pop record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they was just wrap charts. They was on the like
Speaker 1: music charts. They was. They was beating Britney Spears, right bro.
Speaker 1: So so I when they'd be talking all this ship,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, we don't need wrap like that.
Speaker 1: So so to be to say the day the best, okay,
Speaker 1: up down, but now here you're not even gonna live
Speaker 1: down his face that in his space, baby, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Then we can go. Then you can
Speaker 1: talk about something mel you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: in the South, bro, its face, that's that's my era.
Speaker 1: Anything came out during that time I look at as
Speaker 1: my peer. I didn't listen to dopeboard rap. I never
Speaker 1: if you did dope board rap, I didn't by your
Speaker 1: dope bood route because I had my own bomb and
Speaker 1: I had my own Cadillac. When I came in the
Speaker 1: game with six coaches that no bowls. Man, y'all boy
Speaker 1: didn't had cars. Huh, we were. We were doing that
Speaker 1: at six team, man. I was doing that at six
Speaker 1: team man. But wave, but we got in the rap game.
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't get no cars till you got in the
Speaker 1: rap game. So we come from a different place anyway. Man,
Speaker 1: like some of them, some of them dope boys, bros,
Speaker 1: fantasies they you know that man. You know, hey, how
Speaker 1: we came up. I dope boy, Well, old raws and
Speaker 1: pick up man. You needn't see the money. You don't
Speaker 1: even see nothing clean. Bro. But the big old Knight
Speaker 1: man you don't and he talked to nobody comes through
Speaker 1: big Mama house, slap everybody out with the do to
Speaker 1: keep going. Man, you know, let me ask you this man,
Speaker 1: because us it was a lot of it was a
Speaker 1: lot of hatership. Now I'm gonta, I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: politically correct, and then there was a lot of hatership
Speaker 1: that used to go on back in the day. Right,
Speaker 1: it going on now you see it, you're going on.
Speaker 1: Now you do versus and you ain't got nothing from
Speaker 1: the shot man. Come over, man, oh man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you something is deep. It
Speaker 1: was a versus set up dog with like um. It
Speaker 1: was a versus set up with Crazy Bone and DJ
Speaker 1: Paul was gonna do one representing three six Mafia against
Speaker 1: Bone Thugs. Harmony would have been crazy, right, guess what
Speaker 1: Paul and Crazy was gonna do it in their own
Speaker 1: and then start picking up the momentum. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: versus called on. Y'all shall wait, we'll do it on versus.
Speaker 1: You know it never happened. Ye, that's how they do it.
Speaker 1: How they do it. They molled out. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: how hard can see? It's certain groups from the Midwest
Speaker 1: and South, they just want to write off the history
Speaker 1: and they just want to write them off. You got
Speaker 1: goodye mob, You've got Bone Thugs, We've got three six Mafia.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You've got great group, Dog J.
Speaker 1: You try to write lou Scott Walker at the picture exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, j G. It's it's like when you go
Speaker 1: back to Atlanta during that time, Bro, we had usher
Speaker 1: TFC escaped. Come on, bro, y'all, I don't even have
Speaker 1: no amp grooves jog sleep from North Carolina. Tell them
Speaker 1: about it. They from the South. They were not from
Speaker 1: New y'all. Joy from Downhill. Then when you look at
Speaker 1: anywhere else, man, with the West Coast, it were tastes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was other places. So tell me what this? This
Speaker 1: is the perfect seter this. You're sitting in the um,
Speaker 1: sitting in the source of awards, right, Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: tell us teaching when you're watching on TV. But they're
Speaker 1: not really showing what the crowds is doing. They're just
Speaker 1: making an artists look like they're starting some ship can right.
Speaker 1: So dra like he was upset and he went to
Speaker 1: the South. That of something to say what was going
Speaker 1: on in the audience that they do it was it
Speaker 1: was so man, I tell people, man, what people got
Speaker 1: to realize that that that year was the year I
Speaker 1: think that everybody got to see each other in the flesh.
Speaker 1: I think you were seen the West Coast on TV.
Speaker 1: They seen Snoop. They've seen everybody on TV, but they
Speaker 1: ain't smelled their colone, you know what I mean. They
Speaker 1: got them Big Mike. They've seen all that ship on BT,
Speaker 1: but they ain't seen till they got up there that night.
Speaker 1: And I think we got into that night. That ship
Speaker 1: felt like being in the prison law the prison yard.
Speaker 1: It felt like going out on the prison yard. And
Speaker 1: then the first it's like, hey man, everybody, and they
Speaker 1: called everybody, and they called and it was light that
Speaker 1: it was like it was so much at tension you
Speaker 1: could cut it with a night man. I'm telling like
Speaker 1: they started to show with the death Row. When they
Speaker 1: started the show with death Row, it put it put
Speaker 1: it in the out because I want to I want
Speaker 1: you to walk me through like like we're going back,
Speaker 1: but we like we're on turn traveler. We walk them
Speaker 1: through there. What was the thing like was niggas talking
Speaker 1: ship was because first of all, the city of New
Speaker 1: York was there, uh very very um uh brand New,
Speaker 1: does you gotta look at what we're going on? You
Speaker 1: got outcast there, you got Big Mike there representing you
Speaker 1: also had three of from six nine Boys Row and
Speaker 1: at that time was a pop record big record, bro.
Speaker 1: We watched the row. They kind of were like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, but that ship was so hard. It was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, crazy I was from how they came up.
Speaker 1: But it was like the woo they felt just like
Speaker 1: we did at that time. Well, nobody respected and they
Speaker 1: thought stat Niler was the country man. Well nobody was
Speaker 1: thinking them in there when nobody did, mob Deep were
Speaker 1: to love. Uh that's when Quick and eight they were
Speaker 1: going through their thing. What was so hard about the
Speaker 1: Quick and eight was sitting behind us? Mm hmm. That
Speaker 1: was what was so hard. And when when Quick came
Speaker 1: on and did his part, he wrapped right at eight
Speaker 1: and we're sitting in front of eight eight behind us
Speaker 1: Quick wrapping here part eight. So alway, I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: like the west of each other New York and the
Speaker 1: west of each other. And they were looking at the
Speaker 1: Sop like, man, we don't even hear y'all needs like
Speaker 1: y'all needn't even him, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: so it was kind of like, you know, after they
Speaker 1: did they said lyrics of the Year and biggest longs,
Speaker 1: big big Mike. I'm kind of like, ohn't no, you know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they were sitting around like oh
Speaker 1: oh no that ship. But at the same time them
Speaker 1: bo will hat like big it will hattened like I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the first time, you know he
Speaker 1: jumped up that d thing, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: it was like, well we're creg meca, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was so much going on that night.
Speaker 1: I remember us walking out that building and seeing corrupt
Speaker 1: out there rapping against all them folk on the corner.
Speaker 1: He said he did that. He did that for the
Speaker 1: WI that night. He went out there said, hey man,
Speaker 1: anybody out here on song ran on come, he was up,
Speaker 1: Hey man, rut went to serve to dig is out there.
Speaker 1: Man like any well known nigga there was on step up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nah man, he was bro. He took he took the
Speaker 1: you know then there was superstar and they were still
Speaker 1: a superstar. He went and got all the goether. He
Speaker 1: whipped your gother like if he wopped your go to
Speaker 1: y'all ain't ready. He went out there, took on everybody
Speaker 1: on the corner and killed them. It was it was
Speaker 1: the most awesome thing to ever see because to be
Speaker 1: in that room like after she come, it put the
Speaker 1: game banging ship on it. Man Like after she deal
Speaker 1: he did put the game bag and on. Then boy,
Speaker 1: it was like and then at the same time you
Speaker 1: got ball throws and harmony. I'm there. I'm just there
Speaker 1: seeing that beef up close. Okay, you know, ruthless and
Speaker 1: god them. You know that that road wasn't they wasn't weird.
Speaker 1: You know, they were still come what they font during
Speaker 1: that time. So it was the West at each other.
Speaker 1: It was the West and the East of each other,
Speaker 1: and it was the South sitting there feeling like we
Speaker 1: ain't even got them getting recognized, but nothing we're doing.
Speaker 1: So you gotta remember once we came back home, we
Speaker 1: came back home with a chip on our shoulder like okay, okay, y'all,
Speaker 1: damn sure did you do bro y'all only went on
Speaker 1: to saw that picture for the next from being on
Speaker 1: up to now. Yeah, like you go to New York.
Speaker 1: Everything out of New York sound like they got there
Speaker 1: from the A T. M. Man. I told him it's
Speaker 1: all over the place. Now. That's why I tell people
Speaker 1: all the time. I say, man, y'all can say whatever
Speaker 1: y'all want to say, but the difference that makes us
Speaker 1: different than the West and the South. We raised that
Speaker 1: key is. We raised that is man. Well, we was
Speaker 1: the t s. When they came up, we grabbed them, ludicrous,
Speaker 1: we grabbed them jezs. We grabbed them. Everybody else was
Speaker 1: trying to keep him down and blocking and no, don't
Speaker 1: let the end. I don't. I get mad all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, hey man, no de spading nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. It's said that only motherfucker's want to
Speaker 1: talk about Dr Dre on the West. It's said it's
Speaker 1: a quick she, it's sad battle cat. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the reason why you gotta look at why she don't
Speaker 1: be strong. It'd be strong because them folks grabbed one motherfucker.
Speaker 1: They put him in the room and they say, I
Speaker 1: want you to fuck everybody out there, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you all the weight for everybody. Now twenty years later,
Speaker 1: there's one man sitting with all the weight, all the power,
Speaker 1: and everybody else got crumbs and breathe everybody got. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, a whole bunch of like man
Speaker 1: like you named the battle Cat Quick, the niggas, the
Speaker 1: savages in there, battle Cat Quick um ship you got
Speaker 1: the hony Warren g And then they know because because
Speaker 1: let me tell you this, when you look at Dr Dreight,
Speaker 1: he the greatest producer that ever did it because that
Speaker 1: man now went through five eras. Oh yeah, he's unable.
Speaker 1: This ain't no nothing, you know, be clear, drinkings all
Speaker 1: the respect that he is for a reason, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's some of the cold motherfucker's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. The chronic wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: the chronic without Warren cheesy and wan like like like
Speaker 1: you gotta understand one gy. If it was for no
Speaker 1: warreng G, I think that rold would have closed during
Speaker 1: that time. One out of note, I had that platinum
Speaker 1: record for death Jam and they caught that that that
Speaker 1: that that that West Coast waves because of a he said,
Speaker 1: for sure, man, you know, get before we step a
Speaker 1: body here, dog, And I appreciate you dog really doing this.
Speaker 1: You got a whole bunch of other business fixture going
Speaker 1: on man speak on the dog. Um, Okay, get goodies,
Speaker 1: get good good is give good? Is the real moon rock? Man? Uh?
Speaker 1: During the pandemic, before the pandemic, I went out and
Speaker 1: uh out the l A. Living in l A. I
Speaker 1: was gonna drop the T A. C Line. The pandemic hit,
Speaker 1: I said, Man, let me leave my spot at l A.
Speaker 1: Come home. I gotta watch my MoMA m I said,
Speaker 1: took all my ideas from from T A. C Line
Speaker 1: and I took it out here in at Level and Man,
Speaker 1: and five months, man, we're like eighteen spots. No, we're
Speaker 1: in almost forty stores now. A store down in Columbus
Speaker 1: that I just opened up since January. They're doing excellent.
Speaker 1: About to open up another store Columbus. And we're about
Speaker 1: to open up to get goody superstore downtown Atlanta. That's
Speaker 1: six thousand square feet. I'm gonna have a store in
Speaker 1: the bottom. On the middle part, we're doing manufacturing and
Speaker 1: white labeling for anybody want to get into cannabis business,
Speaker 1: wanted to get in the CBD business, any kind of
Speaker 1: product I could produce for you right here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: And then on the ceiling, we're gonna open up a club.
Speaker 1: So man, so let me ask you, this is the
Speaker 1: Trees Legal Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, Hemp Hemp, Hemp, Hemp, hemp
Speaker 1: him Hemp is Hemp is here, man, Hemp is here,
Speaker 1: and and and they should be they already growing in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be at least another year two for
Speaker 1: they let them turn their things into th c. You know,
Speaker 1: you know we are in the dirty South, and the
Speaker 1: folk got to have their Yeah, man, they got because
Speaker 1: you don't all of them back that they kids smoking
Speaker 1: weed and doing all. A lot of customers. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of customers. And one thing I want to
Speaker 1: let everybody know. I started the whole thing, and it's
Speaker 1: it's dedicated to my father. And my father had cancel. Uh.
Speaker 1: He left me about two years ago, and I started
Speaker 1: treating him with this stuff and started making him feel better.
Speaker 1: I knew if I caught him a little bit before
Speaker 1: he started taking out them peels, I probably would have
Speaker 1: been able to back him out up all the way
Speaker 1: up of it. So it gave me another purpose. When
Speaker 1: I lost my old man, man, it made me feel
Speaker 1: like I maybe couldn't have saved him, but I could
Speaker 1: save somebody else. So with that, man, I just I
Speaker 1: dedicate the rest of my life to trying to just
Speaker 1: help people little better and have awallness with their help.
Speaker 1: Because as you see, man, uh, this pandemic, these shots
Speaker 1: a man. The three the three headed dragon is alive
Speaker 1: and well, man, real man, you know, watch everybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: ain't buying these two hundred million dollar boats for nothing.
Speaker 1: Everybody they the super rich is gonna live on the
Speaker 1: water and they're gonna continue to have the locks that
Speaker 1: the lockdown and the viruses. So prepare yourself. And I
Speaker 1: would tell anybody this, hey man, get you first thing
Speaker 1: you need to do, survivor kids. You need to get
Speaker 1: you a generator for your house. You need to get
Speaker 1: you a generator for your house. You also need if
Speaker 1: you can get you store water. Another thing is you
Speaker 1: gotta also understand this. Learn how to teach yourself to
Speaker 1: live off the grid. Gift came up in the country.
Speaker 1: Give know how to I know how to hunt wild haul,
Speaker 1: I know how to hunt deal, I know how to
Speaker 1: hunt uh rabbits, coons. Hey get if the power go
Speaker 1: out to get know how to survived that it was
Speaker 1: a soldier. So I would tell everybody man learned how
Speaker 1: to survive without without power, because it's gonna be more
Speaker 1: locked downs and it's gonna be more viruses. This just
Speaker 1: the beginning, oh man, It's just the beginning. And that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing about having knowledge brough some scary ships.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got it because I told my wife, I said,
Speaker 1: this ain't the first of the last one. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be worse than this. I'll be worse than this because
Speaker 1: now they gotta figure out they got One thing that
Speaker 1: I think that they they took from this first trial
Speaker 1: run is that it's harder to kill us than it
Speaker 1: is other people of skin color. Makeup is different. There's
Speaker 1: something about black people makeup is something in our blood
Speaker 1: is different than than what's going on. Think about this
Speaker 1: around most of the military basis, in the in the
Speaker 1: South now and all the small towns. I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all have seen them, maybe you need to pay
Speaker 1: attention after that. Tell right now in the hood, the
Speaker 1: hood living, I'm selling their blood, they're selling plasma. Breach
Speaker 1: on it, man, breach, Now tell me this. You've had people.
Speaker 1: I watched people all the time drop kids off just
Speaker 1: to feed their family by selling blood. Well, think about this,
Speaker 1: who collected it and for what and for what it's
Speaker 1: because it's not going about for donations. Man's experiment on
Speaker 1: its experiment, because they're trying to find all of the
Speaker 1: things that we may have in our blood that may
Speaker 1: protect us from coming viruses. So now they're collecting blood
Speaker 1: from all of us to figure out the strengths and
Speaker 1: the weaknesses. So we got the attention to the world
Speaker 1: we live in there, because it ain't gonna be long
Speaker 1: to You're gonna see everything you thought wasn't real. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this too, bro before we go.
Speaker 1: And you gotta and you gotta remember this man, Touques.
Speaker 1: You you remember what happened back in the day. Touques,
Speaker 1: You right, Yeah, you know they're telling people that you
Speaker 1: have to get these vaccines now or you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be permitted to fly. You're not gonna be permitted to
Speaker 1: do this. You're not gonna be permitted to that. You
Speaker 1: know they're telling you. You know you don't gotta do it.
Speaker 1: But if you don't do it, you're not get this.
Speaker 1: You know. If you can't fly, if you can't pride,
Speaker 1: if you can't do certain things, you know, you may
Speaker 1: have the company you work for may implement some ship
Speaker 1: like oh, in the state of California, you have to
Speaker 1: have your vaccine before you could work in a public place.
Speaker 1: You just never know. That's a something they got in
Speaker 1: the Book of Revelation called the market the beast me. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the biggest thing that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what we say king the biggest places, well,
Speaker 1: I would say the biggest places where I feel like
Speaker 1: us as people. It's safe. It's in the South. One
Speaker 1: thing we know about the South, the Southerway. Boy A
Speaker 1: used to being told what to do. M real ship.
Speaker 1: He damn, they're gonna turn out to your outline in
Speaker 1: a minute because he ain't gonna go forward. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get all them. And that's why they say, give what's
Speaker 1: going on. I've been telling you what's going on. I
Speaker 1: told y'all all the everybody who got money gonna move
Speaker 1: to Texas. The three biggest, the richest, the three richest
Speaker 1: men in the world are moving to Texas. That's Jeff,
Speaker 1: that's Bill, and that's Ellen. They're gonna control Texas. Why
Speaker 1: because sooner or later they're gonna shut the stock market down.
Speaker 1: Because why they're gonna the only way you can trade
Speaker 1: is because you gotta have land or oh, ain't none
Speaker 1: of that up north. They tired u up people up
Speaker 1: north stilling their moneys. So they're gonna conjugate in Texas
Speaker 1: and they're gonna grain that stock market back to Texas
Speaker 1: where it started in Houston. Then they go see at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when the people trying to
Speaker 1: ply these new rules, Tea is gonna be the first
Speaker 1: state they're gonna ask to be to to to lead
Speaker 1: the union. Damn. So you think it's gonna go Down't
Speaker 1: like that again, Yeah, it's gonna go down. Like they
Speaker 1: just shut that gas line down, didn't. Yeah, man, it's
Speaker 1: wild off that man, you know, lyne off the They
Speaker 1: shut the gas line across the East coast off the computer.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Just took the smooth off the grid. So
Speaker 1: that that was just a test. Somebody ain't doing what
Speaker 1: they told him do. Somebody don't want to do what
Speaker 1: they told They just showed them, Hey, you do what
Speaker 1: I do. You till you do what I tell you.
Speaker 1: I cut your gas out still James eight, y'all neggas
Speaker 1: better give me my fine Donald, I put that on
Speaker 1: the set. I need to go get me some watermera.
Speaker 1: My motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangs, the chronicles of
Speaker 1: my ass tain't granted her money. This gangster granny, y'all
Speaker 1: knew me where you at before we shut this down.
Speaker 1: I got one thing I wanted to say. I need
Speaker 1: y'all all the go to Instagram, Go to the gainst
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Speaker 1: He ate up on this Instagram eight a wait he
Speaker 1: big James up. They all don't get the bottom. What
Speaker 1: is it? Big j br w g J three six
Speaker 1: three six. If you accept your friend request, let me
Speaker 1: know because it would be a miracle. James, you probably
Speaker 1: got about a thousand people want friend requests. You ain't
Speaker 1: let him come in. I don't know, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't check, James said, I don't know. I'm not fucking
Speaker 1: with all you, by the fu. So just chill out
Speaker 1: right now. You know when when you allow people to
Speaker 1: come in like that, and then that was like when
Speaker 1: I gave up my phone number. You have some weirdos
Speaker 1: that called you, Oh man, this just man. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you put the ship some time right. I'm like,
Speaker 1: well you had okay, you think I'm full of ship,
Speaker 1: but you get those phone calls. You see that ship
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I don't have time for that. I don't
Speaker 1: have nothing to do to now, man out there that
Speaker 1: feel a certain way about me. Nothing I can do
Speaker 1: unless you're in front of me, and that's when it
Speaker 1: means something to me. Other than that don't mean nothing
Speaker 1: to me. I don't have to prove I'm with games
Speaker 1: that what is one. I'm just a regular ass nigger
Speaker 1: that that ain't scared to shoot you. I'm just wing.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with with problems, that's right.
Speaker 1: So I stayed away from the bullshit man. And I
Speaker 1: appreciate all the people that that come in and say
Speaker 1: real ship to me, that make those phone calls, and
Speaker 1: I talked to him personally. That's what I give a
Speaker 1: funk about all that other bullshit man. What what exactly? There?
Speaker 1: You go? Everybody got their own motherfucking life out here,
Speaker 1: you know, Tupax said, I mean, Snoop said it better.
Speaker 1: Niggas bitches too, and they can't. They could be your
Speaker 1: closest friend, or they can be that bitch ass nigga
Speaker 1: far away from you. You feel me, another nigga is
Speaker 1: how you get down, and I don't give a fun
Speaker 1: You feel me and then you have her from the homie.
Speaker 1: So if your asks get the homie up on some bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna get and we all have
Speaker 1: to keep it real. No bullshit, man, keep it real,
Speaker 1: keep it humble, and you might get accepted. Oh hey,
Speaker 1: real quick, you want to feel it was about the
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Speaker 1: all your relationship and vice questions, because James gonna be
Speaker 1: the man on there to answering your questions. Yeah, my nigga,
Speaker 1: James up, he gonna he's gonna tell y'all what to do.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell you motherfucker to keep for motherfucker, tell
Speaker 1: to kick rocks and ship. Don't be mad at the
Speaker 1: other nigga. If the nigga didn't raped your woman and
Speaker 1: she gave him the pussy that be is free my nigga. Yea,
Speaker 1: and she did this and gave it up a free
Speaker 1: keep your home exactly. Sure, we all let me know
Speaker 1: what jail well. That concludes another episode of Against the
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