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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It is a Friday, that means we're starting to get

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Speaker 1: some injury news. In went for the Steelers game Sunday

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and we have news out of Cleveland of

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Speaker 1: all places first this week. Yeah, I mean big news. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean we have some clarification. There's a couple of

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Speaker 1: the big guys, and we know who's gonna be out

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Speaker 1: and starting quarterback is gonna be Let's start there. Let's

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Speaker 1: start there, Baker Mayfield in, Nick Chubb in Not that

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Speaker 1: either one of those really surprised me. But missing this

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Speaker 1: game for the Cleveland Browns will be cornerback Denzel Award UH,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Donovan People's Jones, and then safety Richard the County.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's a bench player, but Ward and People's Jones,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a big deal. And they've also got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who were questionable going into this game.

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Speaker 1: The two out and I'm not gonna count the safety.

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Speaker 1: Some game time decisions here will be Odell Beckham with

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Speaker 1: a shoulder, Jadeveon Clowney with ankle, groy, knee, knee. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're all on the same side or not,

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Speaker 1: but it could be both legs, could be one I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, cornerback a j Green with a groin. Uh,

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle Malik Jackson with a knee he's important for them, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then also a defensive end attack McKinley with a groin.

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Speaker 1: Who would be Clowneyes villain, you know, so maybe they

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Speaker 1: only have one of those guys. But here's you know,

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Speaker 1: you see, here's the thing. When when the Steelers were

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Speaker 1: going through this whole groin injury thing, all I kept

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Speaker 1: hearing was nobody else is missing time because you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody else, no other teams are having this issue. Let's

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Speaker 1: see people's jones. His injuries are growing. One of Clowney's

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Speaker 1: three injuries growing a jan a groin, tack McKinley a groin. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that blaming the Steelers training staff or

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Speaker 1: anything for that. It's just a weird coincidence a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago where they know they all happened to

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Speaker 1: suffer a pretty common injury. Yeah, that's just the way

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Speaker 1: it goes. Sam Malone voice a groin injury. Where are

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Speaker 1: we starting, you know, start on defense or offense? Quarterbacks defense.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a much bigger deal. I kind of.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the quarterback situation matters half as much

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Speaker 1: as the only way. The only way that it matters

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Speaker 1: is the fact that the Browns gave Mayfield the first

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Speaker 1: team snaps this week and he may not make it

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Speaker 1: out of the first quarter. Well, I guess we should start.

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Speaker 1: We'll start, okay. I think it's dumb, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, I'm not a doctor. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how bad it is. But I've seen him play

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Speaker 1: it's just a rest thing. I'm sure he'll get some

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Speaker 1: kind of shot, but he's gonna get it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't it's not even a steel related thing. It's

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Speaker 1: just you play NFL football. You're gonna get hit. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna get worse during the game than better. You know

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Speaker 1: you mentioned off the air. Is he gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to use his left hand to hand off even you know,

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Speaker 1: goofy things like anything you have to reach away from

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Speaker 1: not gonna want to reach. Even even if he's trying

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Speaker 1: you know he's trying to he's trying to scramble out

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Speaker 1: tries to push that guy away, that's gonna affect Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I respect his toughness, I respect his competitiveness.

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Speaker 1: I even respect you know, the coach's decision. If Baker's

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Speaker 1: do it. But is it really smart? And you know,

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Speaker 1: we were sitting there the lephone networks on and Dak

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's Dak Prescott compared to the Pine

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Speaker 1: just don't think the gap from Keenum to healthy, pristine

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Speaker 1: I know it's a pivotal game for him. They all are,

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Speaker 1: And you know, you make those kind of it's a

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Speaker 1: Bobby at the time comes back, he comes in, plays okay,

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Speaker 1: And o'donnald comes back, and you okay, o'donald's our quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I didn't play very well, you know, and it costs you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean the big thing here for me is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: probably throws a ball down feel better. But wouldn't it

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Speaker 1: have been smarter to just let Keenan get all the

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Speaker 1: but it just seems like prep for the game would

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Speaker 1: have gone smoother if you made this decision ten days

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Speaker 1: don't see make it through the whole game, right. And

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are obviously not gonna try to injure them,

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Speaker 1: know there's a history between these teams. I don't know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball forty times in this game,

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Speaker 1: the big play. That's becoming. That's the new things sweeping

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Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense. They have an elite run game,

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Speaker 1: And here's what I'm going with it is Cover three works.

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Speaker 1: But starting with the Legion of Boom, that's what swept

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Speaker 1: There's more Cover three beaters than ever. And so what

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Speaker 1: What they want you to do. That's what they want

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Speaker 1: play man, we play more man, right, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're too light to play against the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars or the current Browns or yeah right, that's

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Speaker 1: the that's the example. The jag is a better example,

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Speaker 1: or like the Bills, we're gonna draft a ton of

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Speaker 1: what your division does, so it is a fine line. Um.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, the Steelers have played the Browns

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Speaker 1: a lot. They know all these things in their sleep.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm intrigued, but I do think every

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Speaker 1: didn't challenge. Maybe they feel like they can coach him

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. You know, he can do some things.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't get a helmet in this game though. Maybe, I

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Speaker 1: mean they maybe they may have to bring a guy,

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Speaker 1: I mean I bet he's I might picking on Taco,

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Speaker 1: but he's probably not high on Danny Smith's list. It

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Speaker 1: means new you know, he's not trusted. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: they still have Twosa there as well. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it wouldn't you know, that wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: they brought him up. Uh. I'd like to see Ingram play.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the trade stuff. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: thought you brought up a good point yesterday that if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be in heavier personnel, maybe there are some

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Speaker 1: three outside linebacker packages to use. It called him in

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Speaker 1: training camp a run game bully. He's running the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna be blocking him with Najoku

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win. That they'll ragged all those guys. Yeah, so, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the injury stuff is interesting. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see the people's jones being out is

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Speaker 1: a big one for them. He's a big downfield, talented

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Speaker 1: guy that he might be their best receiver next year,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's got a right future.

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Speaker 1: And they let the other guys go because they're too expensive,

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Speaker 1: too expensive in the old and banged up and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna have new receivers next year. No,

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Speaker 1: I think that's somebody that's been a hit for them

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Speaker 1: as a late round pick. I mean they're real happy

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Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, and he's a good special teams player

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Speaker 1: as well, on both sides of it. So he looks

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Speaker 1: like a five star recruit. Yeah, that's what he was,

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Speaker 1: you know. So that's a big deal for the Browns. Um,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, uh you know, come game time, how many

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Speaker 1: of those guys are able to play? How many of

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Speaker 1: them don't go and some will play and not finish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately this is how the league worked. But

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, interesting Jarvis Landry not listed on there.

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Speaker 1: M hmm. I thought both those guys really looked compromise

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Speaker 1: last Thursday, and you know Andrew was on I R.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta have a hard time believe in

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Speaker 1: he's healthy. There's no buts about that. But he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: Here is Matt Williamson and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll make

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Speaker 1: our pick in this game, uh, in a later segment here,

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Speaker 1: but when we come back, we'll take a look at

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Speaker 1: all this week's games as they come up. We'll do

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Speaker 1: that right after this