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Speaker 3: So let's talk about Apple. I want to show a

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Speaker 3: video that Ty Lopez recently made itself.

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Speaker 1: I Lopez ceue the video.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I'll make a prediction. Your grandchildren will

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Speaker 4: not know what Apple is, just like nobody thinks about

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Speaker 4: IBM anymore. Like IBM still exists, but it's not in

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Speaker 4: the collective consciousness. Nobody's gonna remember. Apple's a shitty company.

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Speaker 4: Look I do like an iPhone. They don't innovate anymore.

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Speaker 4: I message, which is a huge tool. It's the worst.

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Speaker 4: I built a company called Bulldozer. It's coming out. We

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Speaker 4: have better texting capabilities efficiency, just like what'sapp is way better.

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Speaker 4: Thirty people built What's app way better tool. You can

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Speaker 4: create groups, rename the groups, put people in and out

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Speaker 4: of the groups.

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Speaker 1: You can do broadcast lists.

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Speaker 4: None of that.

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Speaker 1: You can do Apple one hundred billion.

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Speaker 4: This is an obsolete bureaucratic company that will disappear, disappear.

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Speaker 4: It sucks unless they change.

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Speaker 1: It, all right.

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Speaker 3: So that was interesting. I saw it because in a minute,

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Speaker 3: it kind of speaks about what we've been saying with Apple,

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Speaker 3: and ty Lopez is somebody who you know, I'm not

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Speaker 3: the biggest Ty Lopez fan in full transparency, because like

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Speaker 3: he's one of these people that I don't know what

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Speaker 3: he's done then, like play basketball and with girls in bikinis.

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Speaker 2: Es my content and day we saw him by old businesses.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the return was on as yeah,

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Speaker 2: this campaign and how he was trying to yeah, a

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen the return of investment. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the return on investment is. But he was on

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Speaker 3: That allegedly, Like I said, shout out to Todd, you can't.

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Speaker 1: We don't no disrespect.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with him. You can't knock the hustle.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I just he strikes me as

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Speaker 1: But hey, whatever.

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Speaker 3: But that was just an interesting take because that is

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Speaker 3: I don't want to beat the dead horse with this

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Speaker 3: destruction of Apple in real time? Is this what we're witnessing.

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Speaker 5: If they don't fix this iPhone issue. Tim Cook, Yes,

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Speaker 5: I've said since twenty twenty that the peak of Apple

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Speaker 5: will be twenty thirty four. If they don't fix some

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Speaker 5: very rare for our company to last thirty or forty

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Speaker 1: I do think they can make a comeback.

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Speaker 5: I was telling stock Club yesterday on the call if

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Speaker 5: as a startup. They've maximized the global smartphone market. They

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Speaker 5: Do I think we're seeing the destruction of Apple. If

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Speaker 5: they won't have their leadership position anymore because Microsoft worth

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Speaker 5: like the number two assets in the world right now

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Speaker 5: is Gold and then Microsoft wouldn't have thought that probably

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Speaker 5: it's a good Lottor you just talked about it in

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Speaker 5: as much we talked about it with Elon and Kanye

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Speaker 5: into different verticals. If you want to steal exist, people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're starting to see some of those blemishes. I

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Speaker 2: Microsoft is number two, but that was number three.

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Speaker 1: It's right there. But I feel like it's the.

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Speaker 2: First time that we're starting we see blemishes, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: We're starting to see stores trying to unionize.

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Speaker 2: I know they fought it off in Jersey, but now

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Speaker 2: there's another one that's popping up in DC. So you're

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Speaker 2: starting to feel like, all right, this golden brand who

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Speaker 2: it's starting to feel like there's a change. We don't

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Speaker 2: GBT situation. I think you're spot on with the industry, right, like,

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Speaker 2: can't wait till they get into the automotive industry. They're

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Speaker 2: are they going to create their own Yes, they got

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Speaker 1: Is that innovation?

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Speaker 2: What they do have at their leisure is capital, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we talk about healthcare, and they're there, right, So can

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Speaker 1: Can you have some market share?

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Speaker 2: because it won't The iOS system is the iOS system,

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Speaker 2: The iPhone is the iPhone. We already know what the

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Speaker 2: needs to be a shakeout.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the vision pro hasn't works as well

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Speaker 1: Also, they need some new board men. It stelling stock

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Speaker 1: club call is yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Johnny ive huge loss. They haven't added anybody knew that

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Speaker 5: board is still comprised of people to Steve put in

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Speaker 5: good rule of thumb every two years to reinvent yourself

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Speaker 1: In some way.

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Speaker 5: And even like with the air pods, it's more conjecture

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Speaker 2: This is like a I don't want to call it

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Speaker 1: Right? So, Like I have the iPad, it still works perfect.

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Speaker 1: I don't need a new one everything.

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Speaker 2: What's the incentive for me to buy a new one

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Speaker 2: because now I have a band that has an extra

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the reason.

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Speaker 5: But Steve jobs hat like that's the part, like they

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Speaker 1: Shock. Everybody works at Apple.

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Speaker 5: If you want to talk innovation, the iOS has gotten better,

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Speaker 5: but it's not a transformational improvement where you're like I

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Speaker 5: Apple fans or like I don't need another iPhone. It's

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Speaker 1: Same thing with the Mac sales, right, do I need

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Speaker 1: a new Mac? My one?

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Speaker 2: My Mac from twenty twenty two is perfect? Do I

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Speaker 2: need a new one? But I think what they've done

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Speaker 2: to kind of offset that is they decided all right,

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Speaker 2: if we're gonna have a slow down in somebody sales

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Speaker 2: for the iPhone, for the MacBook, for the iPad, is

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Speaker 2: they're putting their own chips inside, and so now you

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Speaker 2: don't spend as much, Right, there's not as much outside expenditures.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, this still will be. But until you get

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Speaker 2: Manufacturing your own and you put your own chips inside

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Speaker 2: of your devices, that cust cost long term.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if.

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Speaker 2: There's a product unless they decide that this the M

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Speaker 6: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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Speaker 6: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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Speaker 6: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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Speaker 6: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Noman, the United States

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Speaker 6: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, Attempted illegal border

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Speaker 6: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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Speaker 6: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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Speaker 6: are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly

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Speaker 6: one thousand dollars a day. Imprisoned and deported, you will

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Speaker 6: never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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Speaker 6: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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Speaker 6: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump America's laws,

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Speaker 6: border and families will be protected.

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Speaker 1: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,