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Speaker 2: and you could pick up whatever you missed. Today was

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Speaker 2: day one, opening arguments in the Trump trial, the first

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Speaker 2: Trump trial, the one that involves him. He's being charged

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Speaker 2: with falsifying business records. He was hiding the payments to

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Speaker 2: keep the Stormy Daniel's situation a secret, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: felony charges. If you don't know about it by now,

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Speaker 2: then you're probably not even listening to me to begin with.

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Speaker 2: And we are going to talk with Peter Harlem Buss.

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Speaker 2: I hope I'm saying that right. He is with ABC News,

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Speaker 2: because not only did we have an opening arguments, but

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Speaker 2: we had the first witness testify as well.

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Speaker 1: Peter, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? Thanks for having me on well.

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Speaker 2: Now today I was kind of disappointed because there was

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Speaker 2: only one witness and he was only up there for

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Speaker 2: a brief time. That would be David Pecker, who runs

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Speaker 2: the National Inquirer.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, we didn't hear that much from David Pecker today,

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Speaker 3: so he got barely an hour of testimony in basically,

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Speaker 3: the court is taking two half days this week to

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Speaker 3: an observance of passover. So Pecker took the stand, which

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Speaker 3: was important because we now know who the first witness

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Speaker 3: is in the case. But he didn't say that much

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Speaker 3: beyond explaining what his role was that the National Inquirer

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Speaker 3: his testimonies expect to pick back up at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 3: tomorrow where we think he's going to actually go more

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Speaker 3: towards the heart of the case, this cash and kill

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Speaker 3: scheme and the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and

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Speaker 3: two others.

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Speaker 2: We'll go see the opening arguments if you could summarize

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Speaker 2: both sides, Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: I mean this was vital for the jurors here. Functionally,

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Speaker 3: they got a brief summary of the case from the

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Speaker 3: judge during the jury selection process, but this was really

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Speaker 3: the first time they were able to hear the allegations

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Speaker 3: against Trump and detail, and also for the first time

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Speaker 3: here Trump's defense prosecutors made it very blunt at the top.

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Speaker 3: They said it's an election fraud, pure and simple. They're

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Speaker 3: calling this Trump's attempt to corruptly influence the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: presidential election. They argued that through this arrangement with the

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Speaker 3: National Inquirer, Trump was able to identify and then subsequently

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Speaker 3: quick kill at least three stories about him that could

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Speaker 3: have heard his campaign in twenty sixteen, and then when

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Speaker 3: it came time to repay his lawyer for at least

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Speaker 3: one of those payments, he falsified business records. Trump's lawyers

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Speaker 3: equally fired back here saying President Trump is innocent, He

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Speaker 3: didn't commit any crimes. Yes, he did influence the election,

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Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, functionally here, influencing

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Speaker 3: elections is basically the heart of a democracy, and there's

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Speaker 3: nothing illegal, for example, about a non disclosure agreement between

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Speaker 3: him and Stormy Daniels.

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Speaker 1: For example.

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Speaker 3: So they got a good summary of the case and

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Speaker 3: they're going to learn more about it tomorrow when they

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Speaker 3: hear Pecker Packer.

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Speaker 2: Whatever he did talkalk about involved what their business model

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Speaker 2: was at the National Inquirer. They paid for stories or

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Speaker 2: are they paid to suppress stories, depending if you were

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Speaker 3: It was kind of remarkable to hear that in detail

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Speaker 3: the story. That's your budget. Go find something salacious about

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Speaker 3: a celebrity and come back to me. And anything that

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Speaker 3: would require more than ten thousand dollars would require his oversight.

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Speaker 3: So the three hush money stayments at the center of

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Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars for Karen McDougal, a former Playboy actress,

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Speaker 3: and then thirty thousand dollars for a Trump Tower doorman

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Speaker 3: who alleged falsely that Trump had a child out of wedlock.

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Speaker 3: Each of those theoretically would have required some degree of

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Speaker 3: David Pecker's oversight. So while today wasn't the most fascinating

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Speaker 3: He'd laid the foundation for what we expect to be

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 2: Ordinarily this would be a bookkeeping crime, a misdemeanor, but

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Speaker 2: they make it a felony because they claim that by

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Speaker 2: to improperly influence the election. So that made it a

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Speaker 2: federal crime, a misdemeanor in service of a much larger violation.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and prosecutors didn't go into that much

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Speaker 3: detail about that point of connection. Basically, this whole idea

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Speaker 3: that it's not just you know, proving that Trump signed

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Speaker 3: said it was for micro Cohen's legal expenses. They need

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Speaker 3: And it's really a major sticking point here. They need

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Speaker 3: to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump

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Speaker 3: not only committed these financial crimes. Excuse me that not

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Speaker 3: Trump not only false by these records, but was doing

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Speaker 3: them in furtherance of another crime. And if any jurors

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Speaker 2: So if they believed that he falsified the paperwork just

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Speaker 2: to cover up the embarrassment, keep it from his wife,

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Speaker 2: keep it from the public, that is not a serious

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Speaker 3: I mean, according to Trump's lawyer Todd Blanche, let's say

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Speaker 3: Trump was just paying you know, Stommy Daniels for an

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Speaker 3: non disclosure agreement. Fundamentally, there's nothing wrong with that in

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Speaker 3: Trump's size. And as Trump went into the hallway after

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Speaker 3: court to day to explain to reporters, you know what

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Speaker 3: else was he going to label a payments to his lawyer,

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Speaker 3: Michael Cohen other than legal expenses, we assume they will

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Speaker 3: be the heart of Trump's case, and Trump might actually

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Speaker 2: All right, Peter, thanks very much, Yeah, Peter, all right,

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Speaker 2: he is with the eighty C News and uh, Peter Harlumbus,

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Speaker 2: I think I got it right.

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Speaker 1: I always get it right by time. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I just uh, I just don't see

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Speaker 2: the crime here. Trying to cover up bad stories is

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Speaker 2: what every campaign does. Every campaign covers up bad stories.

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Speaker 2: You would too, if you were running and you had

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Speaker 2: some ghosts in your closet. You tried to do everything

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Speaker 2: you can to convince people to shut up, don't talk

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Speaker 2: about that, don't leak this out here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what what can I do for you? What can

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Speaker 1: I pay you?

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Speaker 2: That must that goes on in every single major campaign

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Speaker 2: in the history of humanity.

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Speaker 1: So I don't.

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Speaker 2: And the idea that you're trying to influence election, well,

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Speaker 2: you're running for office, of course.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to influence an election.

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Speaker 2: Right, What else do candidates do but try to emphasize

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Speaker 2: the positive about their candidacy and their their personality and

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Speaker 2: the bad stuff. That's that's what everybody.

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't see the crime here, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: and broadcast at which they did. Anyway, It's not like

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Speaker 2: we didn't hear about all this eventually.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I get it. It's it's it's

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Speaker 2: definitely a political attack. But if people can't see that

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Speaker 2: it's a political attack by a sitting president's campaign, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know what to tell you, but it's

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Speaker 2: not it's it's not a felony that requires a conviction

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Speaker 2: and imprisonment. Yeah, he's covering up the affair. That's what

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Speaker 2: if the consequences were big enough. More coming up, We've

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Speaker 2: got to talk about what's going on in Columbia and Yale.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's these huge anti Jewish riots. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these Palestinian students and these pro a Moss students, they

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Speaker 1: They really do. It's so nuts.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's absolute insanity.

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Speaker 2: Has taken over the Ivy League campuses back east, and

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Speaker 2: I mean some of this has hit Berkeley pretty hard,

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Speaker 2: they were going to stamp out this horrific terrorism organization Moss,

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Speaker 2: and here come all these pro terrorists, pro Hamas, anti Jewish.

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Speaker 2: We want all the Jews dead, we want Israel wiped

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Speaker 2: to some extent, I guess maybe with what we should do.

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Speaker 2: But this crowd, this crowd is working itself up into

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Speaker 2: violence because really what they want, they want all the

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Speaker 2: Jews to die. And here, let's let's play cut number

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Speaker 2: three to give you a taste of it. This is

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Speaker 2: anti Jewish, anti Israel protesters at Yale.

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Speaker 1: Pop knock with liberation, with.

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Speaker 5: Cock, you patient with dock, you pation down with.

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Speaker 3: A few patients.

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Speaker 2: There was there was one woman who stabbed in the

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Speaker 2: eye Jewish woman.

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Speaker 1: Did you see her? Which school was she from? She

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Speaker 1: from Columbia. I believe it was Yale.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just got stabbed in the eye with with

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Speaker 2: a with a flag. I mean, they're they're getting violent there.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Jewish students are being chased around the campus,

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Speaker 1: They're not allowed to meet.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They're they're not allowed to speak.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is this is uh Nazi

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Speaker 2: Germany all over again.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, William Seward. Isabel Seward.

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Speaker 2: guess you would kill them, all right? You didn't center

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Speaker 2: Apparently at Colombia. Barack Obama went to Columbia. By the way,

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Speaker 2: they're chanting to Jews. October seventh is going to be

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Speaker 2: every day for you. We got more coming up. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A six

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Speaker 2: forty coming up after at three o'clock. It was a

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Speaker 2: big day at the US Supreme Court. The Ninth Circuit

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Speaker 2: Court of Appeals had made two decisions in recent years

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Speaker 2: which hamstrung, to some extent the city's capability to clear

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Speaker 2: homeless people out of their encampments. And now many of

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Speaker 2: those cities and towns filed are part of a lawsuit

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Speaker 2: which has gone to the Supreme Court to appeal the

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Speaker 2: Ninth Circuit decision. We're going to talk with Jeffrey Briggs.

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Speaker 2: He was the attorney who was co host for the

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Speaker 2: day on the show. After having the top bid at

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Speaker 2: Chef Bruno's Caterina's Club event. And he has worked with

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Speaker 2: groups to legally try to force the cities and counties

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Speaker 2: to clear encampments. In fact, he filed amicus briefs to

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court in this case. So let's see what

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Speaker 2: he thought of the arguments today. One more thing about

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Speaker 2: the insanity back east at the campuses at Columbia and Yale,

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Speaker 2: specifically with all the arrests Robert Kraft, and this might

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Speaker 2: be the best way to get the idiots who run,

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Speaker 2: the cowardly idiots who run these institutions, to stop allowing

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Speaker 2: all this hatred, all his anti Jewish hatred. Robert Craft

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Speaker 2: is the owner of the New England Patriots, and he

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Speaker 2: has donated a lot of money to Columbia and he's

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Speaker 2: pulling it. And he put out a message today it

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Speaker 2: was through the full academic scholarship Columbia. Columbia gave me

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Speaker 2: that I was able to attend college and get my

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Speaker 2: start in life, and for that I have been tremendously grateful. However,

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Speaker 2: the school I love so much, the one that welcomed

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Speaker 2: me and provided me with so much opportunity, is no

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Speaker 2: longer institution. I recognize I'm deeply saddened at the virulent

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Speaker 2: hate that continues to grow on campus and throughout our country.

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Speaker 2: I'm no longer confident at Columbia can protected students and staff,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not comfortable supporting the university until corrective action

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Speaker 2: is taken. It is my hope that Colombia and its

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Speaker 2: leadership will stand up to this hate by ending these

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Speaker 2: protests immediately and will work to earn back the respect

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Speaker 2: and trust of the many of us who have lost

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Speaker 2: faith in the institution. It is my hope that in

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Speaker 2: this difficult time, the Craft Center at Columbia will serve

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Speaker 2: as a source of security and safety for all Jewish students.

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Speaker 1: And he goes on.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's what's going to happen, is the money

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Speaker 2: spigot has to be cut off, because I'm sure there

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Speaker 2: are many many Jewish families who have donated billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars over the years, and now they're seeing Jewish students

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Speaker 2: being chased and threatened and injured and terrorized and beat up,

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Speaker 2: and this constant chanting of death to Israel and death

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Speaker 2: to the Jews. It's got to stop, and it would

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Speaker 2: be stopped for any other any other ethnic group, any

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Speaker 2: other race, any any other any other minority group, whether

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Speaker 2: it be race or gender, whatever, it wouldn't be tolerated.

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Speaker 2: And all these administrators ought to be taken away. They

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Speaker 2: really ought to be taken away and locked up somewhere.

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Speaker 2: They're really evil people. They're horrible people.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Now, on a completely different note, I was saving this

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Speaker 2: for you, all right, Debor, you tell me, how do

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Speaker 2: you think this thirty one year old Chinese woman fell

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Speaker 2: into an active volcano in Indonesia.

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Speaker 1: She was taking a selfie.

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Speaker 2: You are correct, she was taking a selfie, posing for

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Speaker 2: sunrise pictures. As the pictures were coming over the top

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Speaker 2: of the volcano, and her skirt got caught on some rocks.

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Speaker 2: She started tumbling backwards and she went into the volcano.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, look, you have to give this

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Speaker 1: lady a break.

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Speaker 5: I mean I would be wanting to take a selfie too.

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Speaker 2: That's why I waited for you to come back to

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Speaker 2: tell you this, because of you traveling wanting to see

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Speaker 2: the sun rise over the volcano.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'll never do that now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's how she posed. She's posing on the rim

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Speaker 2: of the volcano with one leg.

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Speaker 1: Raised I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Clouds of steam and sulfur gas behind her, and she

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Speaker 2: felt two hundred and fifty feet into the mouth of

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Speaker 2: the volcano.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's very sad. Yes, you're the one laughing.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm laughing because first of all, I could see

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Speaker 5: the enticement of that.

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Speaker 1: Really you can. I can, yes, but I would be

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Speaker 1: very careful. Not to say that she wasn't careful.

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Speaker 2: But I like looking at those things and standing back

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Speaker 2: about ten feet. I would have to so that if

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Speaker 2: I trip, I just fall on my face and I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't end up in the volcano.

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Speaker 5: I'd have to be there and assess the situation, and

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Speaker 5: you know, weigh the risks and the benefit of having.

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Speaker 1: A perfect picture. That's what's going to happen on your

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Speaker 1: next trip. You're going to fall into a volcano. You

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Speaker 1: would have me to come on the show to tell

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Speaker 1: you what happened. I'll just be dead. There's going to

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Speaker 1: be this tiny little where are you going next?

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Speaker 5: By the way, I don't have any vacation plans at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll be going alone.

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Speaker 5: And it's very depressing because usually I do have something planned.

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Speaker 2: We should just warn the people in a dance, all right,

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Speaker 2: Debra's got the news. When we come back, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk with Jeff Briggs. Jeff Briggs is an attorney

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Speaker 2: who has done a lot of work on this homeless issue.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he has filed briefs with the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: on today's exact case involving Boise, Idaho Grants Pass Oregon.

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Speaker 2: They had ordinances to ban camping in public places, and

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Speaker 2: they ran into the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that

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Speaker 2: wouldn't let them do it. Finally, its appealed to the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. How did the arguments go? How did the

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Speaker 2: justices seem to be leaning? We're gonna ask Jeff Briggs

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Speaker 2: about it when we come back. Deborah Mark Live and

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Speaker 2: the Cafe twenty four Hour Newsroom