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Speaker 1: Apple's not waiting for It's a worldwide developers conference next

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Speaker 1: we find out that Apple's next iPhone will use motive

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Speaker 1: world's most valuable public company as that's Apple, to diversify

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Speaker 1: its supplier base. Here to talk about it, what it

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Speaker 1: on on were you surprised by this? Now? This has

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Speaker 1: and it's bad for quacom Um. But the Apple supply

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Speaker 1: interesting because Apple thus far has only had three specific

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Speaker 1: great weekend. Thank you YouTube well. Speaking of big wins, uh,

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