1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to our Bloomberg television and radio audiences worldwide. We 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: are live at cs LAS Vegas and we're talking to 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: the CEO of Qualcom, Cristiano among Cristiano. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Good to see you, Good to see you too. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: There is a flood of wide ranging news and announcements, 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: but I actually want to start on your updated XR chip. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: This is a processor that you are going to put 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: into headsets, mixed reality headsets that will take on the 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Apple Vision Pro. And I just want you to talk 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: about how confident you are that you will take on 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: the Apple Vision Pro and at what end of the 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: market you're going to help support. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Look, we have been a big believer in spaceship computing, 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: and I think the Extra Agent two it's another instance 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: of what we have been doing generation after generation again 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: four K special computer on Chi. But most important is 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: when we've been driving how to bring scale. You'll see 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: some of the partnerships we have with Meta. What're they 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: doing with the Quest series we're working in announced I 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: think a while ago that we're working with Sansung and Google. 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: You saw some devices being announced from Sony. I think 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: that's a great opportunity. And the key thing is can 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: you get that to a scale with the performance in 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: the price point that we excite developers. I think it's 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: a great opportunity. 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: On the scale point, there is a feeling that Apple 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: will come in with Division Pro or a next generation 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: at a lower price point and just take the market 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: based on the demand you've had for XR two plus. 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Is that going to be the case? 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: So no, I think you have to look at this 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: in a different way. I think Apple is doing a 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: great job. I think what they done with a Division 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: Pro it's great if you look at the device and 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: to bring it to scale. All that it's going to 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: do is to ignite the developer ecosystem. At the end 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: of the day, those computing platforms and developers creating content. 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: The more that you have more content, and that content 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: that they're going to help create is going to be 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: available on other platforms as well, and vice versa. It's 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: about creating the next spatial computing platform. It's a great opportunity. 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: We're still in the early growth stage of this market. 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: You have been to many cess I have been to 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: a few. It's always hard to find a common theme, 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: but this year there is clearly a common theme, which 46 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: is AI, and you and I have talked in the 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: past about on device AI use, particularly in the cell 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: phone or smartphone context. This year, the PC seems to 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: be the battleground. What is cloudcom doing AI on PC? 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: Look, we're incredibly excited and we feel kind of what 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: we have been saying as validated. If we look at 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: all of the other companies all announcing on device AI, 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: something we've been talking for more than a year. If 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: you look what we did at the Snapdrag and Summit, 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: we're now Excellete, which right now is the king of 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: all device AI computing platforms for the PC has an 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: integrated total seventy five tops ere operations per second, and 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: we started to see what Microsoft is doing other companies 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: doing this is exciting. Just to put in perspective, we 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: have over thirty different AI models been ported to the 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Snapdragon platform preparing for this on device AIPC, and it's 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: going to change user experience, is going to change productivity. 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: Look at a number of CEOs talking about how they 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: investing in this, and then when you run on a device, 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: it's more secure and you have context and you have privacy. 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: So arm as an example, has been talking about the 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: promise of chips that power AI and PC for quite 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: a long time, and it kind of hasn't materialized until now. 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: When I posted on x and asked our audience, what 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: are you most excited about from a technology your gadget 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: perspective twenty twenty four. To be fair, many people replied 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: and said Snapdragon elite. So what does Snapdragon look like 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: in the real, real world this year twenty twenty four, 74 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: how many consumers can actually sit at their laptop or 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: PC and do something of interest. 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to be able to do a lot, 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: So just put a perspective on excelly because there's a 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: lot of excitement. We're very happy that a number of 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: designs is going to launch together with the new version 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: of Windows is going to have on device copilot, and 81 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: there's so many things you'll be able to do from 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: be able to have a computer now that's going to 83 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: predict you every moment. You're going to have copilot. When 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: you talk about the Windows ECO system across all the 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: different applications, and there's a number of other use cases. 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: When you think about visual models, language models, they're being developed. 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: They're very exciting and I think that that's happen on PC, 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 2: that's happening on phones, that's going to happening on cars 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: as well. 90 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: Let's set a baseline and say there is still some 91 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: weakness in the global smartphone market right what functionality in 92 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: this AI era is going to bring the consumer back 93 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: to start the upgrade cycle to get smartphone growth like 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: we've seen in prior cycles. 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: So it's a great question as far as the weakness. 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: I think we did say in the last seven called 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: that the correction and the inventory correction is behind us 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: right now, so we're excited about the market being stable. 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: And then it leads to exactly this point that you 100 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: bring up, what is going to create a new upgrade 101 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: cycle that people want to buy a new phone? And 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: we're one hundred percent convinced is what's happening right now 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: with Jenai on the phone the way you need to 104 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: think about it. We have been accustom to the experience 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: that you have a platform or the OS platform, on 106 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: top of the computer, you have the apps and you 107 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: go in and you touch it. But now on top 108 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: of the OS you're going to have those models. They're 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: trying to predict your every move and it's going to 110 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: bring not only efficiency, but new use cases and we've 111 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: seen that. We've seen that with automatic translation, we're seeing 112 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: that with web summarization. We're seeing that with ability to 113 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: create content, and they did content in real time, content 114 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: that didn't exist before, using visualization models and many more. 115 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: And something as simple as texting is going to have 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: context or allow the EI to bring information that you 117 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: may want to share, you may want to schedule. All 118 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: part of the experience. I'm believing the next user experience 119 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: is going to be based on Jenny I on the phones, 120 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: and we're optimistic that we could start to see devices 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: earlier this year with those capability. 122 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so in earlier is this year? With that in mind, 123 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: what is your twenty twenty four global smartphone call outlook? 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: Difficult to make a call of the total market. I 125 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: think we're just happy that the market is now stable, 126 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: the correction is behind us, and let's see what our 127 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: partners can launch. Stay tuned. For example, what says I'm 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: going to announce soon. I think there's a lot of 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: excitement about the snap Dragon Age entry automotive. 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: You are very bullish and automotive, and you've tried to 131 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: position the company to diversify the company, but automotive is 132 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: a key pillar. Ten percent of revenue is kind of 133 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: the target twenty twenty six end of decade, nine billion 134 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: of sales. What data, it's your desk that tells you 135 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: you're on track for that. 136 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: Oh, we're on track. I think what we had said, 137 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: we're going to get to four billion fort milestone and 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: then we're going to get to the nine billion the 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: end of the decade. I think we're ahead of those targets. 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: What is really showing traction is the number of OEMs 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: that are being working with Qualcom and how we continue 142 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: to add to the pipeline of design. I think what's 143 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: resonating the car industry is transforming to a digital industry. 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: One qual complain as sorrys intructucy on same questions with 145 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: the smartphone or PC. What is the functionality If I'm 146 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: a customer, end user, that's going to change my mind 147 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: about buying this vehicle that has something it doesn't have 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: today the U A country. 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: Well you you already seen that. See the good thing 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: about tracking Qualcom progress for us, it's less about the 151 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: market size. It's more about gaining share and new models 152 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: are launching the technology. You can see some of the cars. 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: If you're going to buy a car today, let's just 154 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: say the Mercedes class, what GM is doing with their 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: car line and many others. You have a fully immersive 156 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: digital cockpit. You didn't have that before. That's enabled by 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: snap Dragon. Right now you have those beautiful screens that 158 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: are immersive and it brings you a lot of information 159 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: about the car the road. On top of that, you 160 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: have safety and we have a vision that assisted driving 161 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: needs to be in every car. For example, the announcement 162 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: we did the show and a partnership with Bosh, we 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: have now announced at the CS a central compute platform 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: that you can have ADS and a digital cockpit on 165 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: the same silicon, which basically you can do that for 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: premium cards. Now bring it to enter a level car. 167 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Those are going to be completely different changes in how 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: you think about safety and how to think about your driving. 169 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Christiana, we just have thirty seconds left. But where geographically 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: is the automotive growth coming from? 171 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Which markets for us is across the board, Because you 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: should think about us as new models launcherwer technology, we 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: gain share. We're working with all the Americans, all the Europeans, 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: all the Koreans, all the Japanese, all the Chinese, so 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: pretty much the entire automotive industry. It would be hard 176 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: pressed to tell you a car company we're not working with. 177 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Car Comcio Cristiana, I'm on live from cs Las Vegas,