WEBVTT - Amazon Fire TV Recast is the Best New Cord Cutting Solution

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<v Speaker 1>All about cord cutting and Amazon's fireTV. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rich Damiro. This is rich on Tech. Joining me

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<v Speaker 1>today is Elias Saba. He is the creator of aftvnews

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Thanks so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So fan of the website, obviously, you are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the king when it comes to all things Amazon and

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon devices. Tell me how you started this site and

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<v Speaker 1>what you concentrate on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, essentially started because I was out of a job,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really want to polish my resume and start, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going out there looking for another job. Want to see

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<v Speaker 2>if I could start my own thing, give myself a

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<v Speaker 2>little more flexibility. The fire TV, the very first one,

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty fourteen, was released. I was interested in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought it. I liked it. I thought there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more you could do with it, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more that people didn't know about. And so I started

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<v Speaker 2>the site just kind of on a whim, almost out

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<v Speaker 2>of just boredom, started writing about it, and it slowly

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<v Speaker 2>started picking up speed, and then you know, started growing,

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of been doing it ever since. And

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<v Speaker 2>now it's my full time job and never touched that

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<v Speaker 2>resume since it is literally every day. I wake up

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<v Speaker 2>every morning see what happened while house as sleep to

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<v Speaker 2>see if there'snything I need to cover, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>go from there, and when there's nothing new to cover,

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<v Speaker 2>I try to figure out interesting things people would want

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<v Speaker 2>to know about or want to do with fire TV devices.

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<v Speaker 1>So Amazon has this new device, the fireTV Recast, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of a DVR for your local over the

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<v Speaker 1>air channels. What do you make of this device?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a pretty good device. It's not the

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<v Speaker 2>be all, end all best DVR over the air solution

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<v Speaker 2>out there, that's for sure. You know, they're still missing

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<v Speaker 2>a few key features here. It still needs a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of polish, especially on the software side. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the hardware is really solid. It gives you what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>There two tuners HD recording. You can record two shows

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<v Speaker 1>at once or four shows right depending on the one

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<v Speaker 1>you get.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two models. There's a five hundred gigabyte two

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<v Speaker 2>tuner model and then there's a one terrible four tuner model.

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<v Speaker 2>With that four tuner model, you can record four things

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<v Speaker 2>at once with the two tune or two things. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them are limited to streaming to only two

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<v Speaker 2>devices at once, regardless of which one you buy. So

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<v Speaker 2>you can technically be watching two pieces of content that

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<v Speaker 2>you've recorded and be recording four different channels at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time. So there's six different things going on there,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can only watch from two different devices simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>Set up process. How do you think they did on that,

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<v Speaker 1>like just physically setting up? And what do you need

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<v Speaker 1>for this to work?

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<v Speaker 2>So what you need is the fire TV recast. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you technically don't need a fire TV because the fire

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<v Speaker 2>TV recast is compatible with smartphones, so you can watch

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<v Speaker 2>the content through an Android or an Apple smartphone or

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<v Speaker 2>a tablet. You can also watch through an Amazon Echo Show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of cool, so I can have an Echo

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<v Speaker 1>Show on my desk and that could literally be a

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<v Speaker 1>little TV that I can just keep a live stream

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<v Speaker 1>on all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. If you've got that Echo show device and

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<v Speaker 2>you say that voice assistant name that al Exa, and

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<v Speaker 2>you literally just say tuned to a certain channel, that

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<v Speaker 2>channel will pop right up. You can even tell it

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<v Speaker 2>to start recording a certain show for you and it

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<v Speaker 2>will just automatically record that show for you. You can

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<v Speaker 2>ask it to bring up your recordings that you've already

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<v Speaker 2>recorded and either use the touchscreen or use your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you've got the device sitting there in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be cooking something or washing the dishes and

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<v Speaker 2>just use your voice to pull up anything that you've

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<v Speaker 2>recorded or anything that's airing live over your broadcast channel.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is that aspect of it. If you do

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<v Speaker 2>want to watch your content, your over the air antenna

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<v Speaker 2>content on your television right now, you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a fire TV device. Any Fire TV model that has

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<v Speaker 2>ever come out from twenty fourteen to now is compatible

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<v Speaker 2>with this, So it isn't you don't have to buy

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<v Speaker 2>one of the newer devices that just got released or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. But if you have a Roku, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have an Apple TV, or any of those competing

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<v Speaker 2>media streamers right now, they're not compatible. Amazon has hinted

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<v Speaker 2>that there are they're considering adding support and being able

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<v Speaker 2>to watch your fire TV recast content through those competing

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<v Speaker 2>media players, but I would say that's probably not going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen for a little while, just because they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of polish left to do on the mobile app.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably going to be where their focus is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So when this thing first came out, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty amazing because I'm a big TV guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to be. I mean I back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and I got my first TV O, loved it, was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan probably until about I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>five or six years ago, and I kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>gave up on it, like altogether one hundred percent. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm a cord cutter, and I love this idea

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<v Speaker 1>because the station I work for KTLA is the only

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<v Speaker 1>station basically that I do not receive at my house

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<v Speaker 1>through direct TV now, and so I thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to kind of plug that open hole, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one thing I noticed is that you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>download a show from the recast to your device, which

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<v Speaker 1>to me is the killer is the killer feature, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if I take a plane flight, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>download a show like a couple comedies from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>local new or local show or maybe some local newscasts, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>sports game. Who knows? Why can't I do that with

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<v Speaker 1>the fire with the recast?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, most likely the answer to that is because Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have time to add that feature in. That's That's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the main reason I've heard the exact same feedback

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<v Speaker 2>from from my readers where they all kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>that feature. I myself, I'm actually planning to to take

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<v Speaker 2>apart at the Fire TV recast see if I can

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<v Speaker 2>get to that hard drive inside to see if there's

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<v Speaker 2>actually a way, you know, for for the the really

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<v Speaker 2>you know, geeky enthusiast out there who wants to get

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<v Speaker 2>nitty gritty with with it, you probably will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to pull off that content. Amazon has said they've They've

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<v Speaker 2>told me that they don't they don't protect the recordings

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<v Speaker 2>in any way. They're not copy protected. They just don't

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<v Speaker 2>provide any kind of interface, any kind of way to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that content. So whatever's coming out of the antenna,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just getting recorded to a regular old rob video file.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if there's some way to pull that file off,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be able to watch it offline on your devices.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I think Amazon just hasn't had the time

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<v Speaker 2>to bake that feature in there. They have said that

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to soon add the ability to plug

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<v Speaker 2>in an external hard drive into the Fire to recast

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<v Speaker 2>to expand the internal storage, so it has that five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred gigabyt or one terrorbyte hard drive built into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you want to record even more than that,

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<v Speaker 2>those hard drives for people wondering, the five hundred gigabyte

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<v Speaker 2>will record seventy five hours of HD content, whereas the

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<v Speaker 2>one terabyte will double that to one hundred and fifty hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if that's not enough for you or you

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<v Speaker 2>want to save that, you know, you know that that series,

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<v Speaker 2>that ten ten year long series, and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to compromise and give up any of that recorded content.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll soon be able to plug in a hard drive

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<v Speaker 2>and record onto that hard drive. And now a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>once they're able to do that, Now you've got this

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<v Speaker 2>content kind of free floating away from the recast. So

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<v Speaker 2>you might be able, we don't know yet, to plug

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<v Speaker 2>that hard drive into a computer for example, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>into a smartphone and offload that content onto other devices.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see, you know again, don't hold your breath. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that TiVo.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like TiVo always made it so complicated. Even

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<v Speaker 1>when you could, you know, attach an external drive, You're

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<v Speaker 1>never able to just tap into those recordings, pull them all.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no way you had to use their special

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<v Speaker 1>trans coding software, which was a nightmare and it took

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<v Speaker 1>like an hour of like a five minute show or

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<v Speaker 1>something ridiculous. Well, let's hope that Amazon does not go

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<v Speaker 1>down that path. So the other thing about this device

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<v Speaker 1>is it too late because we have people getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the world of cord cutting, but they've kind of found

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these solutions. So if someone gets this,

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<v Speaker 1>do I ditch my direct TV now? Because now I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really need all those channels. I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted my locals.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's too late because the fire TV

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<v Speaker 2>recast basically it fills a hole that these other services

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<v Speaker 2>don't provide. Like you were saying, there's no way to

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<v Speaker 2>get your local you know, KTLA broadcasts from these big

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<v Speaker 2>nationwide internet TV solutions like Sling TV, like DirecTV now,

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<v Speaker 2>and so really, if you want all that content, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something like PBS for example, you're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to stream that through those nationwide services, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>connecting antenna to a device like the fire TV recast

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<v Speaker 2>is literally your only option right now. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>you want that full, you know, top to bottom solution,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire TV recast is there for you, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not meant to basically be the reason you cut

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<v Speaker 2>the cord necessarily, although it can be. You know, some people,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see a lot of people who will basically

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<v Speaker 2>be happy just streaming from Prime Video, from Netflix, from

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<v Speaker 2>HBO now and then getting their local stations from their

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<v Speaker 2>fire TV recast and really not caring about those fifty

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<v Speaker 2>or so network cable channels that they get from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their local cable or satellite you know service with TVO,

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<v Speaker 2>with all the other DVR tableau, even HD home Run,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of more of a role of your

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<v Speaker 2>own solution, there's always a subscription fee with those devices.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling about the fireTV at large, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big player on the streaming platforms. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Apple TV, You've got the fire TV, You've got Roku,

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of Chrome cast. Android TV as a platform

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like not really there anymore. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really seen a new product. It's kind of all focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the Chrome Cast. So where do you see this

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<v Speaker 1>as the best platform out there? And what are the

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<v Speaker 1>shortcomings of the fire TV versus some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>ones out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do personally think to the best because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm the one who chose it and is

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<v Speaker 2>running the whole site on it, but it's definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>the best for everybody. The streaming media player you know,

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<v Speaker 2>market right now is very you know, split between all

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<v Speaker 2>of these advices, Like you said, the fire TV, the Rokus,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Apple TV's kind of are the three big ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew TV is still there. They've got you know, Nvidia

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<v Speaker 2>Shield TV is a very good, good product, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is on the pricey side and it does quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but for most people they don't need all that functionality.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest difference that I can think of at this

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<v Speaker 1>point is that fire TV has a web version of YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no service that isn't available on there as much

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<v Speaker 2>with the fire TV, you know, like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>there is that issue with YouTube, but it's almost a

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<v Speaker 2>misconception because while there is no native app, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to access YouTube on the fire TV, you're going through

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<v Speaker 2>a browser to access the TV browser interface of YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>But really on the Roku's, on the Apple TVs, even

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<v Speaker 2>on Google's own Android TV devices, those dedicated real quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote YouTube apps, all they are are accessing that exact

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<v Speaker 2>same web YouTube interface, and so if you put those

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<v Speaker 2>two devices side by side, the Fire TV and app

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<v Speaker 2>Google's own Android TV devices, and you access YouTube, the

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<v Speaker 2>interface looks identical and the feature set is almost identical.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing you miss with the fire TVs on YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>specifically is you don't get sixty frames per second playback.

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<v Speaker 2>You're limited to thirty frames per second, but you do

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<v Speaker 2>get four K playback. But on the Android TVs you

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<v Speaker 2>do get that sixty frames per second four K playback,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there is a slight advantage there. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure about rocoan Apple TV whether they handle that sixty

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<v Speaker 2>prints per second, But with YouTube, you actually are getting

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<v Speaker 2>an equivalent, you know, nearly nine nine percent equivalent option

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<v Speaker 2>on fire TV. I don't you know. It's it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me not to sound like a cheerleader for the

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<v Speaker 2>fire TV. I know, because I like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way I wrote the site. Basically, I basically, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know TV news dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know everything about the device, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can't help but just talk about all the nitty gritty details.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your recommendation from buying a fire TV this holiday season?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one do I get?

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<v Speaker 2>I think definitely the Fire TV stick four K. It's

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<v Speaker 2>basically their middle product. It just came out. It has

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<v Speaker 2>the most powerful process or even more powerful than they're

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<v Speaker 2>much more expensive hundred and twenty dollars Fire TV cube.

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<v Speaker 2>That little four K stick is actually more powerful than

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<v Speaker 2>that cube. You know. I did a whole benchmark about

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<v Speaker 2>it just to just to you know, prove that to everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>because people just couldn't believe it. But it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great little device. It's only ten dollars more expensive than

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<v Speaker 2>their their base ten ADP Fire TV stick, So you

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<v Speaker 2>might be tempted to go for that one, but I

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<v Speaker 2>say it's well worth that extra ten dollars mostly because

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<v Speaker 2>you get the newer remote control with that, the newer

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<v Speaker 2>Alexa Voice remote that comes with the Fire TV Stick

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<v Speaker 2>four K that does not come with the base Fire

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<v Speaker 2>TV stick has power buttons, volume buttons, and new buttons

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<v Speaker 2>on the remote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's big.

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<v Speaker 2>That's big. That's huge. People have been asking that ever

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty fourteen, when that very first Fire TV came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon finally put that out there. Just came out a

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks ago, and and something that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't even realize a lot of big tech reviewers

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even cover in their review is that that remote.

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<v Speaker 2>It has universal remote capabilities built in. On top of

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<v Speaker 2>being able to control power, volume and mute for your TV.

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<v Speaker 2>You can actually speak into the remote, tell it change

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<v Speaker 2>HDMI input three, you know, tune two KTLA for example.

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<v Speaker 2>It will actually turn on your TV, turn on your

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<v Speaker 2>receiver or soundbar, change inputs, control your cable box, tune

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<v Speaker 2>into the right channel, all with that one single command,

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<v Speaker 2>all through that little remote control. And you're getting that

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<v Speaker 2>for that extra ten dollars over the base Fire TV stick.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's well worth it. I definitely say go for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And how much is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty dollars forty nine ninety nine is the retail price?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Elias Saba tell people how to get in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with you.

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<v Speaker 2>To avnews dot com. If you like anything that we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about. There's much more detail there. You can follow

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<v Speaker 2>Also just started Instagram, so at ESAVA. I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and throw that in there. I'll probably post

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<v Speaker 2>some pictures of our little interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining me today on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>so much for listening. Let me know what you think

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. You can find me on Twitter at

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