WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Postgame Wrap-up

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Mick Shots streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the official Dallas Cowboys have and now your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola, Everson Wolves, Nate Newton, and Bill Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we begin our final leg of training camp

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<v Speaker 3>here in Oxnard, California. And what better way to start

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<v Speaker 3>it on this cloudy Monday than Mick Shots, Mick Shotton,

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<v Speaker 3>Nate Newton, Misgnola And I'm sure glad to see Nate

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<v Speaker 3>Newton here because tell people what you did over these

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<v Speaker 3>last three or four days.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I went back to I went back to Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>I drove back and kissed my beautiful bride and turned

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<v Speaker 2>around and came back here.

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<v Speaker 3>So you left on Wednesday, after mixed shot after mix shots, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and you drove all the way back to that Dallas,

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<v Speaker 3>straight through, straight through twenty hours. You didn't stop, No,

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<v Speaker 3>just to maybe rest, No, not even just.

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<v Speaker 2>Get gassed, put your head down, yes, just get gassed.

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<v Speaker 4>And then on Sunday or Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday, you drove all the way back, watching on and

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<v Speaker 2>off the game. And so I could have something to

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<v Speaker 2>say about the players. But I did stop Saturday night

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<v Speaker 2>and got some sleep for a couple of hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I made to hanging with the boys back in Dallas too.

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<v Speaker 2>You did five? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, man, you are a long haul driver.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just uh, my wife. She I told her

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<v Speaker 2>to send me some pictures, right, yeah, send me some

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of you. Of you. Oh, I'm tired. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>send a picture of your face. And she did. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>she had these ugly rings under eyes. I'm like, wow, babes,

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<v Speaker 2>I just say, you know what, my wife ain't sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go home, and then Thursday night should get

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<v Speaker 2>good rest, Friday night should get good rest. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>shoot out.

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<v Speaker 3>But the rest of us. By the way, we flew

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<v Speaker 3>back to Dallas on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet that was a long trip.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Saturday watch the game that started four pm.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys lose to Jacksonville twenty eight to twenty three. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's inconsequential. And we left at and T Stadium right.

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<v Speaker 2>After what time round? What time was that?

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<v Speaker 3>It was about nine maybe Central Arizona. We were supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to get back here, so we had to go through

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<v Speaker 3>security at DFW Okay for the charter site. We land

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<v Speaker 3>at Lax. We had to drive the hour or so

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<v Speaker 3>at night from Lax to here in Oxnard, and the

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<v Speaker 3>projected arrival time for us was midnight here here, And

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<v Speaker 3>when the buses pulled in to the residents here in Oxnard,

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<v Speaker 3>my watch said twelve zero zero.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. Sweet, how about that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's sweet. So at least we were able to stick

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody's schedule, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Cowboys players had Sunday off. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of them took it off, yes, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of them didn't even come back here since

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<v Speaker 3>they were already in La at that time. And here

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<v Speaker 3>we are, so we got mix shots on Monday Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>This week, the Cowboys have a walkthrough practice today that

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<v Speaker 3>is open to the public. The last two padded practices

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<v Speaker 3>will be Tuesday and Wednesday. Thursday's a walkthrough and is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be open to the general public. And

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<v Speaker 3>we leave on Friday for Jackson for Seattle for the

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<v Speaker 3>preseason game there and then head.

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<v Speaker 2>Home, heading home, being back to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to that's right, yes, home home. Yes, this has

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<v Speaker 4>been home for a month.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got to see a preseason game finally, full

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<v Speaker 3>football since they kind of played football here in practice practice.

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<v Speaker 3>So your just overall take on you know what took

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<v Speaker 3>place Saturday in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, and I'll give you my offensive and defensive take

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<v Speaker 2>is that okay? Yes, Defensively, I have not seen that

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<v Speaker 2>type of speed. What I saw, especially in the first

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<v Speaker 2>preseason game. What I saw from the linebackers and from

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<v Speaker 2>Marquise Bell was just flat out guys running, hustling, making plays.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a long time since you've seen a young guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And number thirty three and number thirty five, these guys

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<v Speaker 2>were running overshown and number thirty three is Clark.

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<v Speaker 4>Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys can flat out run, and just the speed

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<v Speaker 2>of it, that's what that would impress me. Defensively, offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw some good things. I saw some nice things,

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw I'm kind of just sitting in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle on our offense hoping that this next preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>would show me a little bit more. I saw hope.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also said, also, I had too many anxious moments.

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<v Speaker 2>When I have anxious moments, then I mean I need

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it a second time. And I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to look at the film a second time.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I gotta go find look at it right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and and we should point out that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>sat twenty five players, yes, twenty six if you count

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<v Speaker 3>the president who wasn't playing, So the majority of their starters, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there was really only seven guys. Yeah, seven guys that

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<v Speaker 3>were playing in more than their fourth NFL game. Two

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<v Speaker 3>of them were the deep snapper and the holder. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you had to play some quarterbacks, so Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's three of those seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So they really didn't play many veterans guys at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it showed. I think it showed mostly on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got to take that stuff kind of with

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<v Speaker 3>a grain assault when you try to evaluate. Now, Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 3>played their starters for two series and then they were out.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cowboys did not play, you know, starters throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously sat a bunch of guys. So look, don't worry

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<v Speaker 3>about the result, right, that's inconsequential. You worry about individual

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<v Speaker 3>performances and how different guys play or didn't play well enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at it, I think the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that McCarthy might have been has to focus on

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<v Speaker 3>is ball security. Can't turn the ball over, right, especially

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to make this team, and if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at it, turnovers contributed fifteen points in this game. Eight

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<v Speaker 3>when Turpin fumbled the punt set up Jacksonville at the

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys forty two, so they had a short field. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Donnal, after a really nice catch and run down

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<v Speaker 3>inside the five yard line, fumbles the ball at the

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<v Speaker 3>one yard line. That's seven points there. You're going to

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<v Speaker 3>score a touchdown. Chances are if you hold on to

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<v Speaker 3>the football. So they lose by five, but they, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>squandered fifteen points along in my books along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, the other thing I think we have

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<v Speaker 3>to look at, Nate is this is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these guys played football like a whole game.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're playing a lot of guys that were on

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<v Speaker 3>the practice squad last year that hadn't played an NFL game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, take Will Greer, when's the last time he

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<v Speaker 3>played a full game? Yeah, last trading camp, right last preseason.

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<v Speaker 3>So well I looked at the offensive line and Josh

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<v Speaker 3>Ball starts at right guard. Yes, he played all of

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<v Speaker 3>forty one snaps last year, so he did most of

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<v Speaker 3>the season watching.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's go was on injured reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>Act was placed on injured reserve October twenty sixth. Brock Hoffman,

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<v Speaker 3>who started at center on the practice squad the hall year.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy that played the most football last year of

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<v Speaker 3>the starting five on the offensive line was Awesome Richards,

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<v Speaker 3>because he was in college, starting at North Carolina. So

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at that first group that played the

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<v Speaker 3>whole first half the offensive line, that's the first time

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these guys played football.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the thing that and I'll go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the points. The reason we're bringing up the points because

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<v Speaker 2>we don't worry about the score, and we really don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no one should. But when you have turnovers,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we brought up the score because you had

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<v Speaker 2>because in the regular season, you don't need turnovers, especially

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<v Speaker 2>inside your own their red zone, so it's easy for

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<v Speaker 2>them to score. So that's why we bring out the points.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm with you, a lot of these guys got

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<v Speaker 2>they first opportunity to really get uh, get some real

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<v Speaker 2>ball in and I was so happy when they started

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<v Speaker 2>their starters because what that is, what that does is

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<v Speaker 2>gives the guys a truer look.

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<v Speaker 4>Of what they might be facing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So now you can get you get a better

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<v Speaker 2>athlete that's more confident in the scheme that they runs,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're running it a little bit faster. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>going against rookies and everybody's trying to fill out those

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<v Speaker 2>first few series, you may not get a fast player.

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<v Speaker 2>But we got their first team defense in their first

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<v Speaker 2>team offense, and we got faster players. So that made

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<v Speaker 2>you That made you raise your level of playoff if

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<v Speaker 2>you can. So that that was good. And they held

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<v Speaker 2>their own I mean they did not get blowed up,

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<v Speaker 2>and some players had some blow up situations, but as

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<v Speaker 2>a team, they did not fall apart, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>good to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we need to, you know, go further and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>now what do you do yes week? Right, because chances

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<v Speaker 3>are those young guys in the offensive line that are

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<v Speaker 3>basically battling for backup spots, Yes, sir, Yeah, Now they've

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<v Speaker 3>got a game under their belt and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when they go to Seattle. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>evaluated the offensive line the first group that played, there

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<v Speaker 3>were some good things and then there was some not

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<v Speaker 3>so good whoa what are you doing there?

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<v Speaker 4>Like guys got lost.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a couple of plays where I saw Richards

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<v Speaker 3>it was like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like he was confused. And so I think

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<v Speaker 4>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of it wasn't just inability. It was not recognizing what

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do. And that's got to be difficult

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<v Speaker 3>when you haven't played at this level in so long.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that I always get guys is you has

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<v Speaker 2>hesitation shows the lack of confidence. And when you have

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<v Speaker 2>lack of confidence, and if some of the wording, the

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<v Speaker 2>verbiage is close, that runs together. You did on display,

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<v Speaker 2>this protection means this. On this play, this protection means this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it all starts to run together with the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>of three different defenses that you're gonna face. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of have concentrating on the play, you may

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<v Speaker 2>not see the scheme when it changed, so you don't

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<v Speaker 2>make the right move. I saw one time the right

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<v Speaker 2>guard went right and everybody else was going left, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he made this. He made his adjustment, but the

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<v Speaker 2>tackle he was by hisself, so they wind up on

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<v Speaker 2>one guy in the linebacker ran free. So you see

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<v Speaker 2>all that confusion, and now the coach is saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my tackle did right. My guard didn't do so good

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<v Speaker 2>on this play right here, we can we can adjust that.

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<v Speaker 2>But now the running back saying, wow, but I got

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<v Speaker 2>kipt for no gain or a minimal minimal gain, So

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<v Speaker 2>it can be. But we didn't have a three or

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<v Speaker 2>four of those plays on the offensive line where guys

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<v Speaker 2>was just totally confused and it hurt the whole team

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<v Speaker 2>like you had other times when it was confused and

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't hurt the team a lot of times. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I go right and you go left. But the play

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<v Speaker 2>we was fortunate to play was outside the other way,

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<v Speaker 2>so me going the wrong way didn't hurt us right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we saw a little bit of that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to coach Mike Celari and he just lived because

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<v Speaker 2>he we changed just simple things like we changed practice

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<v Speaker 2>by us not going today full pass and Tuesday full

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<v Speaker 2>pass and then Wednesday off like they thought it's been

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<v Speaker 2>moved back a day. So he's livid about that because

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<v Speaker 2>he had things he wanted to get while the game

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<v Speaker 2>was fresh on their mind. He didn't want to walk through.

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<v Speaker 2>He needed to get guys going, and so he just believed,

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<v Speaker 2>like I believe that the only way you can get

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line going is to work them physically as well

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<v Speaker 2>as mentally. You know, you can get it all on

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<v Speaker 2>the board and you can write it all down, but

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get you going at least seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour here physically so you can see it

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<v Speaker 2>moving faster.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it'll be interesting to see. So we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get a chance to talk to Mike McCarthy yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to him today.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it's n nine point fifteen his press conference,

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<v Speaker 3>So he's moved everything up, so it sounds like what

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to do is get the guys off their.

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<v Speaker 4>Feet a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're going to start the practice early so they

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<v Speaker 3>have a longer day before tomorrow they get the pads on.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was pretty honest after the game, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you just one example. He said after the game,

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Ball came up to him and said, well, coach,

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<v Speaker 3>what did you think?

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<v Speaker 4>How did I do?

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<v Speaker 3>And McCarthy's answer was, well, I was kind of busy

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<v Speaker 3>with another job, meaning I didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>really watch on falling plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh So now that they've they've got a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>go over the film all day Sunday, it'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to see what his evaluation is and the coach's evaluation

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<v Speaker 3>of what took place during the game. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from the quarterback standpoint, Will Grier hadn't played

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<v Speaker 3>in a in a in a in a game, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not if I'm not mistaken, since last preseason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it took him a while, I think to start seeing things, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>to adjust to the speed of the game. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I think we saw after he took over for Cooper

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<v Speaker 3>Rush that the second half he kind of settled down

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<v Speaker 3>and start hitting some passes. He's got a bunch of passes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he wanted back, uh, And there were a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of well I'm throwing this, and what's the wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver doing?

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<v Speaker 4>And there was young wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that is why I believe practice has to

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<v Speaker 2>be taking so and I'm not sitting, please don't miss Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I believe that practice has to be

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<v Speaker 2>even more important than the preseason game. I just really

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<v Speaker 2>believe that when you have these opportunities as backup guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean true back, cause Will Grill was hurt and

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<v Speaker 2>he was truly the thirteen quarterback, right, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>to really be focused. You have to really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>come out here and do extra. Uh, the the days

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<v Speaker 2>of I'll get my reps that is over, that has

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<v Speaker 2>been over maybe ten fifteen years. You now you have

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<v Speaker 2>to find a group of guys where you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>fell let's go out and get some get some throws. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's get something extra. Because the time that is

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<v Speaker 2>allotted for veterans is only eleven hours a day. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so you you gonna have to find time on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>And it can't be Da going to hit guys. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be Will Grill finding him a group of guys

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<v Speaker 2>or Cooper Rush finding him a group of guys and

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<v Speaker 2>throwing to his guys because, uh, time is so limited,

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<v Speaker 2>like even for us, we you don't get a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to see the second group of guys because like we're

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<v Speaker 2>watching film and we didn't get a chance to see

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<v Speaker 2>the TJ. Bastes of the world or the other other

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<v Speaker 2>guys were so concentrating on on Richards. Uh we loscow.

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<v Speaker 2>I did find out that my boy some questions was

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<v Speaker 2>answering on my boy froniac. His arms are just too

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<v Speaker 2>short mate to play guard.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the center.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's but see that affects us because now if

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<v Speaker 2>he could play a litt bit of guard, now we can,

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<v Speaker 2>we can we get a lot of positions somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>But now we gotta If we put him at the

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<v Speaker 2>backup center, that means we got to find a backup

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<v Speaker 2>guard as well as a backup swing tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>Butt out last year when he had to start those

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<v Speaker 3>two games.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah he did, Okay, he did all right, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Again take into a count that that's his first football

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<v Speaker 3>that he's played in a game since they put him

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<v Speaker 3>on I R about halfway through the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I and I'm with you, but still you

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<v Speaker 2>have to start and and and I'm not judging him

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<v Speaker 2>on this one game, but the film is being.

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<v Speaker 4>Watched, right, I got.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say he can't play guard, but I'm saying from what

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<v Speaker 2>I seen by the first team of the other team, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't He wasn't mentally ready to so.

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<v Speaker 3>And and the other thing we need to point out

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<v Speaker 3>is if if he's the game day uh center, backup

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<v Speaker 3>center guard, then you only got to get through a game.

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<v Speaker 3>What you have to do is find somebody that can

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<v Speaker 3>play full time guard. If something happens, or if Zach

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<v Speaker 3>Martin doesn't get back in time for the start of

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<v Speaker 3>the season. They I saw some people tweeting out. Do

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say tweeting out or xing out?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? I don't know. I'm not intoday anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions about do they need to get a veteran offensive lineman, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what they signed Truman a dooga for and he's

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<v Speaker 3>out and I've been told that he's got a bone

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<v Speaker 3>bruise on his knee. It wasn't something after they did

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<v Speaker 3>the MRI, so it shouldn't be a too long thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying he's the answer because he certainly hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>impressed me during the practice sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I watched Richards and he played left tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not play bad at all in my estimate. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he did not play bad.

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<v Speaker 4>At most of the last week or so he's been

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<v Speaker 4>in practice. He's been playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Guard, yes, but he played.

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<v Speaker 4>He shows up at left tackle and he gave up

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<v Speaker 4>a sack.

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<v Speaker 2>But the quarterback held the ball right and we had pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>He did his job. He ran the guy around the horn,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way around the horn. He took three steps

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<v Speaker 2>after he got him around the horn and the guy

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<v Speaker 2>just looks up and here's a quarterback. Then backed up

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<v Speaker 2>four or five yards because we had a rush up

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<v Speaker 2>the middle that flushed him. At first he was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>step up, but then we had a rush from the

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<v Speaker 2>right side that flushed him, and and and he was

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<v Speaker 2>right there. So ain't nothing you can do after you

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<v Speaker 2>run the guy around the horn and you take you

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<v Speaker 2>two or three steps to secure it. So I'm thinking, awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>Riches played nice. I think with Losco, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>played nice. And you and and when you see this

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<v Speaker 2>from your tackles, because between the guy that you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>your dogga and these two guys those we gotta find

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<v Speaker 2>the swing tap. Gotta be one of them. Gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>one of these guys. So it's gonna be a great competition.

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<v Speaker 2>And I promise you when we get out of Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>we won't be doing the show together. But after this

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<v Speaker 2>second preseason game, we can't sit up and we ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a luxury to say it was the first

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<v Speaker 2>preseason game. We're gonna have to either be saying, these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your guy, he looks like you're guy, or

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be just ready to discuss well, when.

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<v Speaker 4>We talk about the backup tackle spot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what Nate's saying is basically a game day

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<v Speaker 3>backup because if anything goes wrong, Tyler, Tyler Smith's your your.

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<v Speaker 2>Full time, full time back up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So then again it's the guard position that they gotta

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<v Speaker 3>concentrate on. All Right, We're gonna take a short break

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wiltering I'm wiltering, That's all they was saying to everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, all right, So we're gonna get into some guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess we should probably start with Deuce Vaughan,

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<v Speaker 3>who has already become a hit with the people at

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And you realize that when he had his big run.

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<v Speaker 3>They're down at the four yard line and people in

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<v Speaker 3>the stadium start chanting dudes, And I was thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy, you got to give him the ball at

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<v Speaker 3>the four yard round and they did, and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Found the hole and scooted it through for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>So your thoughts on what you see?

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew he was gonna start with number thirty five?

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<v Speaker 2>What his name? Yeah, I just knew you was going

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<v Speaker 2>so okay, I have to kind of stop in midstream. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because Mickey, you've heard me, said producer Chris Beab has

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<v Speaker 2>heard me sayd I ain't no I want no Deduce

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<v Speaker 2>band fan say he has to show me out of

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<v Speaker 2>all of these guys, you're gonna have to pull a

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<v Speaker 2>Missouri and show me. And from day one, in training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been like, mister Newton, this is who I am,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ain't saying this person, but just the way

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<v Speaker 2>he's been a professional way he's practiced because I only

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<v Speaker 2>thought that he was a gadget player. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>gadget players. They can't help you win games in my estimate,

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<v Speaker 2>but this kid is proven every day, every practice, every

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<v Speaker 2>move that coach McCarthy's done with this kid, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a positive move the game. Positive moves out of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I've seen out of the running backs. Positive So

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<v Speaker 2>he's winning me over. And he's more than a gadget player.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 2>He's a football player. So I have to say this

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>one time, mister Deuce, I'm riding with you. I'm still

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>waiting though. I'm not gonna just jump the fence. I'm

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 2>not that type of guy. But if you convince me,

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you got a fan for life.

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 3>A carries fifty yards, including a twenty six yard run

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and a four yard touchdown run. He ended up catching

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 3>three passes. It says three yards. The one was a

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 3>big loss. He had a nine yard game, and then

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 3>on kickoff returns he got one for thirty yards and

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>he exploded on that.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was nice. And what he's doing is

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 2>we have an all Pro returner. He's putting pressure on

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>this all pro returner.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 4>So I'm all Pro returner. Better hold on to the football.

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm trying to say, Mick is now,

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to be smart. If you are terping, you

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>have to be very calculating in how you do things right.

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>And I hate to say this, because you want a

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>guy to be more than one thing to a team.

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Why receiver, third, punk returner, first kick return a second?

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Why I receive a third. I'm not saying don't work

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on your craft, but don't lose one to gain the other,

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 2>because you become less valuable.

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, I thought the impressive thing.

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 3>And and by the way, if you guys hear this

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 3>like a drill in the background, we're not at a

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>dentist office either.

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Yes, they're building something.

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's always doing something. I wish we had brash

0:28:52.120 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>sham brasham. Start with the noise, so I splore see

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the guy right there, he's do what you gotta do, man.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go do it.

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>At the other side, take a hint, I guess not

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 3>the job to do it.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it.

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I thought The thing that stuck out to me about

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Deuce was the fact that he has this ability to

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>put his foot in the ground and see where the

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 3>crease is and just kind of scoot right through it.

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 3>And he's got enough speed that once he gets through,

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 3>if there's somebody facing him, he doesn't lose any speed.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Side step in the game, right, It's just one step

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to the side and he's left.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 4>Them grabing air.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was pretty impressive for his first

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to play in a game. Uh, the other guy,

0:29:56.600 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 3>and we'll go back and forth offense defense, But you

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>mentioned Themarvin Overshan.

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>The kid can run, can he?

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Mick? I could have did a whole show on him.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I turn on the film out here, every guy, I

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>would act broadest you. It didn't matter who I asked

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>this question, who is the defensive guy that you like?

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Who is the defensive guy that you like? To a

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 2>man thirty five? We wasn't called, you know, we wouldn't

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>call him over with his name. Yeah, it was thirty five.

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Look at thirty five, and look at thirty five. And

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I would look and I was like, oh, but when

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I popped on a little bit of film, when I

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>would rant track somebody down. The first person I saw

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>was number thirty five. I mean, and I'm running it slow,

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>slow that down. I mean he got away of slipping

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>by guys, and he's got so much speed and quickness

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>till he can get out of his lane, get behind

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the guy, and get back in his lane for almost

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>no gain. Don't let it bother you make almost this

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>camp sounds sound no gain. And then number thirty three

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>he's doing the.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Same thing sideline to sideline. Yes, right, yeah, And think

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 4>about this.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>He ended up starting five games last year, having missed

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 3>all the off season, having missed all of training camp,

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 3>and we saw how he was playing, and somebody and

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 3>just tells you how people don't watch And obviously they're

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>not watching training camp practice, like what they want to

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 3>know who's going to be the linebacker starting next to

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 3>fifty five, And it's like it's thirty three already.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 4>This kid. Did you see the one he ran down

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 4>to the side that there was a pitch out.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And he was on the Baie ran down the other Yeah,

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, yeah, the moon Clark. We know they may

0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 2>fellas I'm old school, until you make the teams A

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of times it's just numb daimone. Clark is who

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, and Over Shown it's thirty five. So

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>just stick with me here and stick with Mick. Micker

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>used the names more than I will. But these guys

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 2>were running. It was three guys that showed up, showed

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>out Mark, Keats, Bell, Over Shown, and Clark. These guys

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>were constant, constant, constant. And I'm dropping ahead of the game, Mick.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>And when number thirty, when number fifty eight our first

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>round picked Mazie and number ninety seven was showing out Olsa,

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>he played white. When these guys were eating up blocks,

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>these linebackers were unstoppable. And I know it was preseason,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>but I'm just saying, for a for a rookie and

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>a first year guy, which i'm calling Clark a first

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>year guy show up like that, I would hate to

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>see when they scheme it up, how quick and fast.

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 3>He And when I think, when we're talking about linebackers,

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 3>really doesn't matter who was playing on the other side. Now,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 3>it matters when the offensive line goes against the defensive line, right,

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 3>But from from a linebacker standpoint, you got to know

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>where your fits are and where you're going and those

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>two guys along with Marquise Bell, who led the team

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 3>with ten tackles. Yes, ten and again and that's probably

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 3>the most. Now he played last year, but he played

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 3>thirty some plays in this game and show that he

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 3>knew what was going on. So yeah, I thought those

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>guys really really stood out defense. We've seen Juan yer Thomas,

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the safety make plays the first series. He gets an

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 3>interception number thirty. Yes, and he's a guy that's pushing

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 3>you know. He was on the practice squad last year.

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But he has some special teams capabilities too, so he

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>certainly did himself some favors. Now, we're going to take

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>our last break, and we're breaks already.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, no, we only got yeah, we only got to

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 4>forty five.

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>We ain't got nobody outs.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Do we have anybody after us?

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have coach McCarthy. How you doing, a young lady,

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Good to see you.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 4>All right, All right, well we can do that.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>So where's he got with the bloor?

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 3>He's right behind you, and maybe he can just take

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:21.760
<v Speaker 3>a break here for ten minutes.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Lee didn't take a He certainly didn't take a

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 4>suggestion there, did he?

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, we can go a little longer today. That's right, yeah, okay,

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 3>so we can't, okay, we can't. All right, Well then

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Chris Beams says it's time to take a break, So

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<v Speaker 4>Move things up.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, two guys, I wanted to get to first, the kicker,

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon Aubrey.

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<v Speaker 4>He had.

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<v Speaker 3>Kickoffs, which are important for this kicking job. He had

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<v Speaker 3>five touchbacks, okay, kicking the ball really well at AT

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<v Speaker 3>and T Stadium. As a matter of fact, I kept

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<v Speaker 3>an eye on him when he was warming up, and

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 3>it certainly showed the difference in his leg strength kicking

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>at AT and T Stadium and not kicking into this

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 3>blessed wind.

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Here had a cursed wind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the cursed wind, the ruin of many a kicker,

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<v Speaker 3>right and from in warm ups. He had the leg

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<v Speaker 3>to hit from fifty one and fifty three by a

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 3>good distance. So he's got the laying strength, he's got

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 3>the pop.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 3>As for his performance in the game, he hit a

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 3>twenty nine yard field goal. He was two or three

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.320
<v Speaker 3>on extra points, and I found out that one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that happened was that when they had the

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 3>first couple kicks, the operations, the three man operation was

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<v Speaker 3>a little slow, so I think they told they needed

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 3>to speed up. Well, he speeded up on that extra

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 3>point and hurried himself, so I think he needs to

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 3>settle down. But again, that was his first NFL performance.

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 3>I know he kicked in the USFL, but I think

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 3>you can see the lage strength. Now it's a matter

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 3>of consistency. Okay, so we'll see where the kicking thing goes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure the owner was sitting there going we left off,

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 3>we're having trouble with extra points, and he missed one,

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 3>and you want to be nearly perfect, and he was

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.959
<v Speaker 3>in the USFL, by the way, nearly perfect. So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see how he performs. But they had to be happy

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 3>with that's his first NFL competition. The other guy that

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<v Speaker 3>I think people probably figured out is they had to

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<v Speaker 3>know the name of number forty nine John Stevens tight end.

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 3>First time he's ever played tight end.

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<v Speaker 4>In a game, and he leads the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And again stats aren't that important, but he led the

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<v Speaker 3>team with five catchers for fifty six yards uh and

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>had a touchdown catch there late in the fourth quarter.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>We've been seeing him flash here. I was wondering what

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 3>he was going to do in a game. He made

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 3>himself available on seven targets to catch five passes.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 2>That's good. Good he did he do a little fullback too?

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Did he get some foods?

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if they put him at an H

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<v Speaker 3>back or not. They were using a lot of the

0:40:55.840 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 3>other tight ends at H back, right McKeon, did I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it also?

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 3>So obviously he knows he has to improve blocking, but

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<v Speaker 3>as an off the line tight end, I think he

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<v Speaker 3>shows you why they turned him into a wide receiver

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 3>in college. Right, three years that TCU didn't get a

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 3>chance to play all that much, transferred to Louisiana, and

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 3>again he was playing wide receiver at six six two

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 3>forty five. So I just thought that what he did

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 3>was rather remarkable. Because I talked to him after the game,

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.720
<v Speaker 3>I said, so tight end, maybe middle school, high school,

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<v Speaker 3>some No, this was the first time he ever played

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<v Speaker 3>in the game at tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, that's great, And see you talking about him,

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.720
<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking about a guy who I was howling

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>last year and I just can't wait for the season

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 2>start for Jake First. Yes, absolutely cannot wait because he

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 2>was trying to fight and block, to try to get

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:04.479
<v Speaker 2>in the way. He'll do everything he can, and every

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 2>time we get a tight end that will block, it

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 2>just increases the opportunities for Tony Pollard to be do

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>his natural thing, and that's to get outside.

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 3>So he had three catches for thirty eight yards, made

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:20.919
<v Speaker 3>himself available, but was blocking. Now I've contended that this

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 3>guy will make everybody.

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Forget about Dalton Schultz.

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, now that might be too bold of a statement,

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 3>but I think he's more of a complete tight end

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>because he will block. Yes, And I think we also

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 3>saw the rookie scoon Maker that's a big man on

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 3>the line of scrimmage. He looks like a willing blocker too.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, if you're a big ten tight end and

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.959
<v Speaker 3>these guys coming from Wisconsin, you better be able to block, right.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is and that is what we've been missing

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the last few years, or the last two or three year.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But the thing about it is we've been able to

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 2>but this year here we're gonna need a little bit

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 2>more of a run game. We're gonna play much better defenses.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to be just a little bit more balanced.

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And so we got guys that and like I tell people,

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and even the great Jason on Witting would tell you,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 2>they're all about being a perfect block. It's about being

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>a willing, fighting blocker to get that that's able to

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 2>get in the way and get positioned. So we got

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 2>guys that can do that. Like I say, Tony, it'll

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>help Tony Pollard and whoever's going to be the second back.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 3>That's almost like for a tight end. It's almost like

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 3>playing basketball. You want to screen people off the play.

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Your job is not to really pancake people, right if

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 3>you can find, but just know where you're supposed to

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 3>be and screen guys off the play. And uh and

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>if you notice, and this was no accident, especially in

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 3>the most of the game.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 4>They were in a lot of too tight end.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, yes, So if you're gonna be in two

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 3>tight end that much, you better have four tight ends

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 3>that could right, I grew with, So it'll be interesting

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 3>to see, uh Hendershot, you know, obviously one of them

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.959
<v Speaker 3>scoon Maker Ferguson and then we'll see what the fourth one.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, do they go with McEwen just because of

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>his experience or do I mean, can can you take

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a guy.

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Like Stevens and put him on the fifty three man roster?

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>You know that that's that's that's not my decision. But

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 2>the first two are good solid blockers and catchers, right,

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and Hendershot is my third guy because he's he's that

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>he's a route runner. So the other guy, I don't know,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Mick's up to what the coach see about. Now. The

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 2>thing is it's always gonna come down to specialty, right,

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Can you be a special teams player or who's gonna

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>be the willing h back? Yes, because they're gonna always

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>be able to dress the young guy, you.

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Know, and that's what Q and did last year. It

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 3>was kind of more of the h back of the group.

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it'll be interesting to see that. They'll have

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 3>some decisions to make. And then you know this Hunter Lipke,

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 3>the full back. They use him as a one back

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 3>and you know he'll play special teams, right, So that's

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 3>gonna create some decisions that they've got to make here

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 3>over the next couple of weeks because the cut is

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 3>August twenty ninth, so they've got still what are we

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:36.399
<v Speaker 3>at the fourteenth, two weeks before they have to make

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.959
<v Speaker 3>the cuts, So they got some interesting decisions to make.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 3>But I thought those guys, you know, the Stevens and

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the Aubrey, who, by the way, I found out when

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 3>he got to the USFL with Birmingham, he didn't have

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 3>any competition because they only had forty five guys in

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 3>a roster and they didn't have room to have two kickers.

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 3>So basically he got recommended to Birmingham Stallions and it

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 3>was his job.

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 3>So now this was the first time he's been in

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 3>a competitive situation and the first time when we talked

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.720
<v Speaker 3>about John Stevens playing tight end, which is a little

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 3>different than.

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 4>And you know what, you know how confusing it was.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I saw on the on the stat sheet they listed

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 3>him as a wide receiver, not a tight end. Everywhere

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 3>he's a tight end, but in the official play by

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 3>play they listed him as a wide receiver.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I guess just because he was out wide.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, if me and you do a show next week,

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I can promise you I won't be sitting here saying

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 2>this was the first preseason game because we're we are

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 2>underway nine, right, and guys have to take it upon

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 2>themselves to say, you know what. Normally, when I used

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 2>to have to asks a coach how did I play?

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 2>That mean I had a lot of plays that were

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>very questioned. I was a little Yeah. So when you

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 2>played good, I played decent. Then you have a confidence

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and you be waiting on the coach to come and

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:13.879
<v Speaker 2>patch you on the back.

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Right, So you.

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Walk off like I'm good, Yeah, I'm good. Yeah. So

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 2>next week, you know, like I said, if we do

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 2>a show together, I'll be like, nah, it's time to

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, do whatever it takes to make it happen.

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 3>So what Nate's saying these next two padded practice out

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 3>big big, big.

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially if I'm in competition at the Guard. If

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the competition at Guard, I got you know,

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I know. I know who my z is now, I

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 2>know who fourniac Hell is, now, I know who Ghosting is. Bro.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm finna crush you now, Intice, I know you, I

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>practice against you. I don't need no tape to crush

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 2>you in practice and now and then she will make

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you more confident going into the game. It's like a

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of times you come up the ball timid well

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.439
<v Speaker 2>once you've done it, especially you've done it against Jacksonville's

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>no slouch and you went against their first team and

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you farewell. Now next week it don't matter. You come

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 2>off that ball and you do what you gotta do.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 2>You be the attacker.

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Nate Newton crushing it here on mix Shots.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:21.439
<v Speaker 3>We will be back on Wednesday one more time from

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 3>ox Star before we head back home and resume mix

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 3>shots at the Star. Natal probably be back on his

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 3>hanging with the regular show, and I'll get Bill Jones

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 3>and Everson Wallas back with me and if we ever

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 3>need help, Long Haul's gonna step in and help us out.

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:44.919
<v Speaker 3>Chris Beam, thanks for getting us going here. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>it for today on mix Shots.

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