1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: Stockings and they are wearing a whist. So, yeah, it's 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: too bad, But what did you expect? 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: It's a podcast called twenty five whist souls. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: Wine, you guys, sounds so stupid. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 3: Why don't we talk about it before? If you're not 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: gonna jump off? 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: I was reading a note, ready to note, read note, 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: my bad, my bad man. There's a lot. There's a 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: lot to go. We have Jason Garrett coming up. All right, 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: go ahead. Do you want to talk about that thing 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: happened last week where the old guy slapped the person? Yeah? 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: What on earth at your Wrigley Field? 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: You want to set it up? Yeah? So the Cubs 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: are playing a baseball game. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: I don't know who they're playing. But in the stands, 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: this kid's not standing up for the national anthem. So 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: an old man that's sitting behind him says. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: Get up, what are you doing? Stand up? 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: The kid does not stand up, and I say kid, 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: he's probably in his twenties, does not stand up. So 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: the old man, what's he do? Slaps him in the head. 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Stand up. 24 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 3: It's the national anthem, And even people around are like, dude, 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: what are you doing? Like, why are you hitting them? 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: And he said he didn't want to stand up. Whose 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: side are you on? 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? 29 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: I don't like that the kid didn't stand up. I 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: think that's dumb for whatever reason. But don't hit anyone. 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: You can't hit someone. 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Okay, whose side are you on? 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: So? 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: I mean, if I had to pick a side, I 35 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: would be a little disappointed like the man, but I 36 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: would have to take the kid's side for you know, 37 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: just getting You can't get. 38 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: Hit exactly the right side. Yeah, we're not Nazi Germany. 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: You don't have to make people patriotic. You hope they are. 40 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: You hope they stand up. I stand up anytime I 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: stand up, take my hat off of my hand in 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: my heart. That's the thing I feel that I should do. 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: But I don't feel like people have. I mean, forced 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: patriotism is what North Korea does, it's what China does, 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: That's what Nazi Germany did. So I am patriotic. I 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: stand up, but I also don't believe everybody has to 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: do everything that I do. And I hope they do. 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: But don't you don't hit. You don't hit because of it. No, 49 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: you can't hit, so you can even say, I'm very 50 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: disappointed in you, and that's okay, but you can't hit somebody. 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: And and again you don't want forced patriotism because that's 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: North Korea. 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: Also, what if the kid is from another country. 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, remember when Wimby he wasn't singing along to the 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: national anthem, he have his hand on his heart. People 56 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: are like, he's not even like, dude, he's not from 57 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: America's it's also not it's not his national anthem, right, 58 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: and he's in the country. If he chooses to, that's great, 59 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: but that's not his nation. 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: So you know, there are some countries where they kind 61 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: of do the Nazi salute as there. 62 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: I put your arm down in just in case the video, 63 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't hand over the heart thank you. 64 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I've been like in Mexico, one of them 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: is like they do that, and I was like, that's 66 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: very strange. 67 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't like it that the kid didn't stand up. 68 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: I would have been disappointed, But you don't hit. And also, 69 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: you don't force people to patriotic. You know how to 70 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: make people not patriotic, try to force them to be patriotic. Yeah, 71 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: you know how to make people patriotic. Have a great 72 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: country and have people proud of living in it and 73 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: then hopefully they stand up like like you're doing you 74 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: know what? Though the guy ended up standing up yeah, 75 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: because you canet beat up because he was like, okay, 76 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: I'll get up. Yeah. Yeah, that's a crazy story. That 77 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: was crazy, dude, that's a crazy story. The lebron too, 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Philadelphia happened on Friday. It's just fun. They're gonna be 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: so good. It's fun. I think I think I'd prefer 80 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: them to go to Golden State because I just like 81 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: to see him and stuff together, like the Olympics. That 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: was fun and they're both old and it's like, uh 83 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: that show it was it called road Hogs or something 84 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: where all the old men were in a motorcycle gang 85 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: like Tim Allen and Wild Dogs. Wild Dogs, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 86 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: I remember that one. I think I missed that. It's 87 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: not that good, but it was like old guys one 88 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: last run doubt and also Draymond who's older too. Yeah, 89 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: that had been fun. Beside that, I really didn't want 90 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: him to go to Cleveland. Who cares, We've already done 91 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: We've done that, yeah, been there. Didn't want them to 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: go to Miami. Who cares, he's done it already, so 93 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Minnesota would have been interesting. But I think if I 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: were to have picked, it had been Golden State one 95 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: Philadelphia too, But I definitely did not think he was 96 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: gonna go to the seventy six ers. 97 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: Why would he want to go to Philadelphia. 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: That team's built, Yeah, all five of them, Edge Comb 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: Jalen just went. 100 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: Over Yeah, MAXI, yep, indeed when he plays, that's five. 101 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: The problem there is usage. All those guys want to 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: need the ball. But they'll figure that out. 103 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, Like, how are they going 104 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: to share the ball because there are so many big 105 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: name players that are used to carrying the team. Maxi's 106 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: carried the team. Jalen carried the Celtics. Lebron he carried 107 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: the Lakers. Well, try to carry the Lakers, but you. 108 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like he did carry Lakes the 109 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: entire first round of the play off, right, Yeah, there's 110 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: only one ball, dudes. But I think they'll probably limit 111 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: both Embead and Lebron, especially early on, so you let 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: that thing fix itself. They have a team that's loaded. 113 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: I think they're tied for first in the East odds wise, 114 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: not overall, but I think they're tied with the Knicks. 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: Odds they'll be a really good team if they can 116 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: stay healthy. Lebron's usually healthy. He has things occasionally that 117 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: pop up, but he's never had any injury that's kept 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: him out for half a season and beads out all 119 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: the time. 120 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: If you think about it, it's just amazing. I mean, 121 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: he must have the best doctors to keep him healthy, right, 122 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: because how are you that age moving at. I mean, 123 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: he's slower, obviously because because he's older, but I mean 124 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: he's not slower than any of the players. He's just 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: slower than what Lebron used to be. 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: I would say, it's not really doctors, it's just investment 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: in being proactive with his body, you know, going and 128 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: sauna and red light and massages and stretching and changing 129 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: his workouts all of that, and of course doctors too. 130 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: But it's all of that because if you could just 131 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: pay a doctor, dude, I still be twenty five on 132 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: the pickleball court. I know that easy. I could just 133 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: pay a doctor. 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: Uh So is Bronnie going to the seventy six ers 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: now too? So that whole thing like just died out right, 136 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna play just so I can play with Bronnie. 137 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: He did, I know. 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: But then now it's like, all right, Bronnie, see you, 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep playing to win championships. 140 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: So he didn't even announce that he wasn't staying with 141 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: the Lakers until it was a deadline for them to 142 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: sign Bronnie. So Bronnie signed a two million dollar deal 143 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: and then the next day Lebron's like, I'm out. Okay, 144 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: So he made to make sure that happened. Yeah, they 145 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: can cut him, but they got to pay him. But 146 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: Bronnie is still a Laker. Yeah, I don't think they're 147 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: going to trade him. But what do I know. I 148 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: didn't think he was going to the seventy six ers. Yeah, 149 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: that's crazy. So that's fun. Tony Romo got a OUI 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: whatever that is? What was that creating? 151 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: What? 152 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah in Wisconsin I think is an OUI just what 153 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: they call it. 154 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: But basically he was just driving drunk, Yeah, got it. 155 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: His much SHOT's pretty funny. 156 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: D I'm telling you, the the internet just having a 157 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: field day with this. 158 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Is really funny. I haven't seen any of the field day. 159 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: There are just so many, like like the Hispanic populations, 160 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: so have you ever played look Adio, which is like 161 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: a Mexican bingo, and instead of like numbers in a letter, 162 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: it's like El Corasona. It's a picture of a heart. 163 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: And there's one that I always thought was funny when 164 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: I was a kid. It's called Elbraco and it's the 165 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: drunk guy. So they've substituted with Tony Romo and he's like, Hey, 166 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: that's just funny, dude. 167 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: I laught so heart of that stuff. 168 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: It's not funny that he got a dui or whatever 169 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 3: it's called, but I mean the fact that the Internet 170 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: just makes so much it's just so funny at times. 171 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: The one that I did see was him and Jim 172 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Nance talking about the game and Jim Nan said, Hey, 173 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: what are the keys to this game? And he goes, 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: I can't get I can't have keys anymore because I 175 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: got just busted driving or whatever it was. I did 176 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: see that one that was funny. Yeah, they're just so quick. 177 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: They're like, they won't let me have my keys anymore, Jim, Yeah, 178 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: what are the details on that? Like CBS analyst and 179 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: former Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo had a run in with 180 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: the Low Milwaukee According to the athletic while cruising on 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: southbound I forty three on Thursday evening. Police said they 182 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: pulled over Romo and the arrest reports that Romo performed 183 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: poorly on the standardized field sobriety tests and was taken 184 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: into custody as a result. In Wisconsin, at first o 185 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: WI offense can carry a fine of up to three 186 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,359 Speaker 2: hundred bucks along with the surch charge, the OWI surcharge. 187 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: So I would like to see the body cam. 188 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like like when we waited for justin Timmerlakes, 189 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: that was worth it. 190 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to see it. Speaking of wrecks, Kyle 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: Shanahan had a wreck. Saw that, but it happened like 192 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: in July fourteenth to two weeks ago or so, oh. 193 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: It wasn't recent, dude. The whole the way they're treating 194 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: this whole thing is so weird. It's almost like they're 195 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: saying like he's day to day you know in practice, Like, guys, 196 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: he's not a player, he's a coach. Like what's the 197 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: protocol of like an injury report on a coach. Just 198 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: let him recover and then he can come back to coach. 199 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: But it seems like the injuries were pretty like substantial. 200 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Like what I read was a couple of broken ribs, 201 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: like forty stitches in the face, like bad wreck, and 202 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: it was not reported when it happened, and I think 203 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: they waited till camp to report it. I don't know why. 204 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. And then usually like when they hold 205 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: back details though, you're always thinking why did they hold 206 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: back details? Correct? And why did they not say right then? 207 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: And if you were to get into a car accident 208 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: or I was going to get a get into a 209 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: car accident and we're fine, like we would have no 210 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: problem talking about it. Yeah, man, I changed lanes and 211 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: this guy t boned me and forty stitches rib whatever, 212 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: But when they when you don't talk about it, yeah, 213 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: it seems fishy. 214 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll just wait, I guess and see and 215 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: not only not talk about it like hit basically hit it. 216 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because the wreck I read was in the 217 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: public record, but there were reporters I knew about it 218 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: that wouldn't even talk about it yet for some reason. Weird. Yeah, 219 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: that's a weird one. I did watch the w NBA 220 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: All Star Game? 221 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: How was that? 222 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: See again the internet? Did you watch the highlight reel? Yeah? 223 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: And by highlights, it starts with that three pointer. That's 224 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 3: a complete air ball. I saw probably like four different. 225 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Places, dude. 226 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: And then there's miss layups and miss putbacks and then 227 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: like steal after steel after steel, hilarious. 228 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: Kaylen. Her parents and her grandpa was in town, and 229 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: so he watches a lot of WNBA. 230 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: Got it your your wife, not Caitlin Clark? 231 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: What correct? Well, Kaylen, my wife, Yeah, you were talking 232 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: about Caln Clark. So they're in town and her grandpa says, 233 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: we're gonna watch the three point shootout, which one he goes, 234 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: yeah WNBA. I said, oh, so this is Friday night, 235 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: so we find it. We put it on. And USA 236 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: Today was already in a bit of a mess because 237 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: they had reported that Kaitlin Clark had skipped the Orange Carpet, 238 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: which is the WNBA version of the Red Carpet, in 239 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: order to get her hair done. Okay, and then they 240 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: had to come back later and go, oh, sorry, we're wrong. 241 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: She was actually at a charity event for the Kaitlin 242 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Clark Foundation. It is the wildest retraction, so weird the WNBA. 243 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: They are cutting off their nose despite their face, like 244 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: they're doing everything possible to slander Kaitlin Clark, but she 245 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: is the only thing that most people care about, not 246 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: all because there have been a few fans of the 247 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: WNBA that have existed, but new people coming around are 248 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: coming around because of Kaitlyn Clark. I saw a staff 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: that showed all of the engagement for all social media 250 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: in the WNBA, and they showed the Indiana fever, and 251 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: they showed every other team individually, and then they showed 252 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: every other team combined, and it wasn't that of the fever. 253 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Every team combined did not have the social media engagement 254 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: of just the fever. Now it was just one stat 255 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: So USA Today does the article Kaylen Clark. First, it 256 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: was an article before that where they were comparing Caitlyn 257 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: Clark and what she does and how she's flopping. And 258 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: then they started talking about Emmett Till and how he 259 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: was murdered just so close to and they created this 260 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: wild story, wild USA Today story so much so you 261 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: read it and you got you got a little angry 262 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: because it was totally unneeded and reckless. So then they 263 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: do the thing where Kaitlin Clark skips to go to 264 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: a charity event or skip for her hair. Then it 265 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: was like, oh, sorry, we met charity event, so knew 266 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: she wasn't gonna do the three point shootout we're watching, 267 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: and yeah, it's fine. They did the one thing. They 268 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: had two balls from the logo, but it wasn't the 269 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: middle logo. There were three points each. They put like 270 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: state farm logos a little deeper than the three point 271 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: that's like the three point elbow area. And so that 272 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: was kind of cool three point shot to do that. Yeah, 273 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: I only saw one or two of them make it, 274 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: but yeah, we watched that and oh whatever, and then 275 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: we watched the next night the actual game. Yeah. What 276 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: were the names of the teams? Coop and Spoon I think, 277 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: And there were just older players who were being the 278 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: general managers of the teams. And so the Blue team, 279 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 2: which was Caitlin Clarkston, the interest her first and just 280 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: got out of the way. It was crazy. 281 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: It's just blatant, just they. 282 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: Just they want nothing to do with her. The thing is, 283 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: if she goes away, so does like general casual interest 284 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: in that league period, where would she go? Who knows 285 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: start her only playing? Who knows she's not going to 286 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: She doesn't want the attention, She's not even being the 287 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: one that's so polarizing. 288 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: Do you think that there could there be something that 289 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: she's done behind closed doors, or something that she's done 290 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: to rub people in the league. 291 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: The wrong way? But it doesn't matter. 292 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: I understand. I understand the monetary benefits and the opportunity 293 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: to expand the lead to make it more eyeballs on 294 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: the league, all that. I understand all that, But I 295 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: wonder if there's something that's rubbing everyone the wrong way. 296 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: But but it doesn't matter. You think Michael Jordan rub 297 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: people the right way? No? No, you think any of 298 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: those pis Larry Bird rub people the right way. No, 299 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: everybody hated those guys. But if you're undeniable, not only good, 300 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: but also extremely marketable, that lifts the entire league up. 301 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: Like they were all flying commercial flights. You know why 302 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: they're not now, Why they're flying private A big part 303 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: of it because of the sudden new fans and interest 304 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: because Kaylen Clark got on the league. Yeah, I bought 305 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: the WNBA league pass. 306 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm not a fever fan. 307 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: You've never done that. No, So it's wild to watch 308 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: them kick themselves in the nuts over and over again. 309 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: So that's a weird thing she played, and man, she 310 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: was chunking balls. She nailed like three out of the 311 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: first four d three pointers really, and then she would 312 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: just go down to chunk, just chunk. She ended up 313 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: being like five or fifteen. She's just chunking. She scored 314 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: seventeen points for fifteen. Yeah, I like it, but they 315 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: were but it was all and there were there's no defense. 316 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: They just get the ball and shoot it. Yeah. 317 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean that's like the NBA All Star Game. 318 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so's you bet on it? No, and they they won, 319 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: and she had the second highest points on our team. 320 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: But it's just so I don't know concerning that they 321 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: continue to try to stamp out the most marketable and 322 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: arguably important player in the league. I'm not even saying 323 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: the best age Wilson's probably the best. 324 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: I don't know who she is, but she has been 325 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: for a long time better if I sorry, I know 326 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: who she is. 327 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, they don't. They just are like nat not 328 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: a girl. It's crazy. 329 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: Does your wife Caitlyn enjoy WNBA or is. 330 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: It just you me and Kaitlyn's grandpa? Nice and there's 331 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: no other sports on it. 332 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: But but but Caitlyn's grandpa though coached women's basketball. 333 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: Good point, right, that makes sense for like forty years, 334 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: so that's his sport. Mm hmm. I saw Obama talking 335 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: to Kaitlyn Clark. He was like a practice and he 336 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: like pulled her aside. He was like, don't let him 337 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: suck the joy out of this for you. He said that, Yes, 338 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: he was like, this is hard. Don't let him suck 339 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: the joy because she looks like she just hates it. Yeah, 340 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: even when they introduced her, she's like, hey, she does 341 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: look like that, and either she's beat down or she 342 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: has to present that she's beat down and not enjoying 343 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: it too much because she knows people are are are. 344 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: They're also using her as a divisive tool and she 345 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: doesn't want anything to do with it. Yeah. So yeah, 346 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: and she's top seven player probably in the WNBA right 347 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: now really currently. Yeah, I would think they raid her 348 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: number eleven guard, but they just hate her of course, 349 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: But I think she's the top seven player. She's not 350 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: the best player. But when Kareem Abdul Jabbar was saying, 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: she's not the face of the league, the face doesn't 352 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: mean you have to be the best. The face is 353 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: who people know the league for Lebron is still the 354 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: face of the NBA. Lebron is not the best player. 355 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: Lebron is still the face of it. Yeah he was. 356 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: But you don't have to be the best to be 357 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: the face. You need to be the person that most 358 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: people know. Ye to be the best, the person that 359 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: if someone goes, hey, do you watch the WNBA? Not really, 360 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: do you know any players? And like they name that 361 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: person that's the face of the league. Yeah, that's Caitlin Clark. 362 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: It's not who the diehards know, because the diehards are 363 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: going to know everybody. Who did you say Wilson? Yeah, 364 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: Agan Wilson best player by far. And I don't even 365 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: know her face. 366 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: I know Paige Beckers. 367 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: I know Paige Beckers. Yeah, yeah, she plays in Dallas. 368 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: Her Sabrina, her girlfriend won three point shootout. 369 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 6: Azy Fudd ac Fudd that's her name. Yeah, trying, dude, 370 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 6: any relation to Elmer Fudd? 371 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: No relation. But yeah, they we watched it. We did it. 372 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: It's fine. 373 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's also helps too that there's 374 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: really not much else to watch right now for sure. 375 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: And also, man, when they missed, they miss bad big time. 376 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: Like they're missing open layups. That there's one girl that 377 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: dunked it and it was a pretty clean dunk. She 378 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: made it, Yeah, she made it, but you would have 379 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: thought how they reacted. She ripped the whole backboard down. Yeah, well, 380 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: because it's kind of like it's rare. You're right, rare, 381 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: you're right. 382 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: But man, the one I saw was the where four 383 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: people tried to put it back and everyone was missing. 384 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: Due it. That was funny. 385 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: And they kept throwing like outlet passes and then it 386 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: get picked off and then they throw another outlet pass. 387 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: They can shoot, but people are just funny, dude. No, 388 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: it's not that they can shoot. The ceiling of shooting 389 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: is good, but this the over athleticism. If you're comparing 390 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: it to men, it's not even close. Yeah. I think 391 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: have you seen like the I don't even know what. 392 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 393 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: What. 394 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: Tell me, have I seen what? Like the women's soccer team? 395 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: You know we have really good women's soccer national soccer 396 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they really, We've won. 397 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: Four World Cup? Yeah? Do they dominate? They go and 398 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: play like the fifteen and under boy soccer teams to 399 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: get beat. Is that real? It happens all the time. 400 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, I haven't seen I haven't seen this. Let 401 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: me get the that's core. Let me let me, let 402 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: me go to chat DVT. Hello, we're talking about the 403 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: US women's soccer team and how there have been instances 404 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: but they've they've played friendlies against like fifteen and under 405 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: boys soccer teams unlost. Can you give me details on 406 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 2: that checking. 407 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: The clearest example is from twenty seventeen. The US women's 408 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: national team did lose five to two in a closed 409 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: door training scrimmage against FC Dallas's under fifteen boys academy. 410 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: That result came out via an FC Dallas post, but 411 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't an official match. Friendlies like that are often 412 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: used to test fitness and tactics and aren't a reflection 413 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: of competitive play. Carly Lloyd acknowledged the scrimmage laid as 414 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: well as the physical differences, but again, it wasn't a 415 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: sanctioned game. 416 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like when remember that documentary I talked about 417 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: where I think it was the college guys, the best 418 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: college players played the dream team in a closed door 419 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: scrimmage and they beat them, and no one ever wanted 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: to talk about it. And then finally the college team 421 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: is like, now we're going to talk about this because 422 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: it was the best day of our life where we 423 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: beat Michael Jordan and the Dream Team. 424 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: This is way different though. Wow, I know fifteen and 425 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: under in the fifteen you. 426 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: Hey, I love how Dallas FC two is just like 427 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: a tweet. It kill them like fourteen year old boys. 428 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the thing. So it 429 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: was fun to watch. You can't compare. It's not fair 430 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: to compare. It's not it's not fair. But yeah, that 431 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: was the highlight clip. Dude. I laughed. It starts with 432 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: that three pointer on the bottom corner. 433 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: I laughed because it started with like highlights from the 434 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: All Star Game, Like, oh cool, let me watch this 435 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: because I really thought it was gonna be the highlights, 436 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: but it wasn't. 437 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's break, We'll come back and talk to Jason Garrett. 438 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: Let's go former Cowboys coach. Now, he's got a podcast 439 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: called Coach to Coach. You're gonna let me ask a 440 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: few questions. You can lead us off here. Jason Garrett 441 00:21:52,920 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 2: coming up. All right on Jason Garrett, former Dallas Cowboys 442 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: head coach, NBC sports analyst, also got a brand new podcast. 443 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it. Called coach to coach, But Jason, 444 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: this is a thrilling day for one of the guys 445 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: on the show because he is a die hard Cowboys 446 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: fan and he was talking I won't say smack, but 447 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: he was just so curious about you going to the Giants. 448 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put him on over here. This is Eddie. Eddie, 449 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: go ahead, Hey, Coach, how's it going? So good to 450 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: meet you, Eddie. 451 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 5: What's happening? 452 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: I first have a question, so should we care about rivalries? 453 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: Because I hate the Commanders, I hate the Eagles, and 454 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: I hate the Giants, Coach, and when you went to 455 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: go coach for the Giants, I felt betrayed. So should 456 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: we care about rivalries? 457 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: Oh? Sure, absolutely. You know I went and played for 458 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 5: the Giants too, so I had some history. Yeah, I 459 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: had some history in that organization. But yeah, rivalries are important. 460 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 5: You know, you think about the Cowboys and all the 461 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: way back to this seventies with the Redskins, and then 462 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 5: you know, we had great rival rivalries with you know, 463 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 5: all of them, with with certainly the Redskins slash Commanders, 464 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 5: but then the Eagles and the Eagles was always a 465 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 5: blood bath. And then and then certainly the Giants through 466 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 5: the years. So I think it's what makes sports great. 467 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: I really do. 468 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: But then, how do you go from being a Cowboys guy? 469 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: I mean you you were our guy coach and then 470 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: you go coach for the enemy? 471 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: Well, I was. It was a tricky decision, and uh, 472 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 5: you know it just you have different opportunities at different times, 473 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 5: and and that seemed like a good one at the time. 474 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: But you know, I was in the Cowboy organization for 475 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 5: a long time as a player and a coach. So 476 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: I still live in Dallas, so so much of my 477 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 5: life has been a part of that organization and grateful 478 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 5: for those times. 479 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: I do want to ask you, coach, about being a player? 480 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: What was it like throw into Michael Irvin? What kind 481 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: of receiver was? What was Michael remarkable? 482 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 5: Remarkable player? I could talk for three hours on Mylervin 483 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: an incredible teammate, arguably the best teammate any of us. 484 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 5: Had a tremendous work ethic, intensity, passion for the game. 485 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 5: The way he practiced every day is certainly the way 486 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 5: he played on Sundays off the charts and was one 487 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: of those guys as a leader and a marquee player 488 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 5: on the team. He knew everybody on the team and 489 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 5: went out of his way to support people really throughout 490 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: his career and since then. And he's a great friend 491 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: of mine. Amazing receiver. You know, he was one of 492 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 5: those guys who loved the ball, so he was always 493 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 5: I would get a chance to go play as a 494 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 5: backup quarterback, he said, Hey, just throw it in my area. 495 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: I'll go get the ball. And one thing that I 496 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: would say about him is, you know, bad things rarely 497 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 5: happen when you threw the ball to Michael Irvin. Usually 498 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: he made a lot of big plays for you. And 499 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 5: he's certainly never let the defender make a player in 500 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 5: the ball. He just had this amazing body control, tremendous 501 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: passion competitive this to go get the ball. And you know, 502 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 5: if you go back and look at the film of 503 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 5: him and Troy ape been playing together, you know there 504 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: was so much trust between those guys. You know, Michael 505 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: would run an eighteen yard incut, the ball would be 506 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: halfway there before Michael came out of his break because 507 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 5: Troy knew exactly where it was going to be, and 508 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 5: like I said, such a big target, nothing bad ever happened. 509 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 5: An amazing guy. But I'll give you a quick Michael's story. 510 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 5: Just the kind of teammate and friend he is. We 511 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: opened up a restaurant in Dallas about three and a 512 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: half months ago, and we had some opening cocktail parties 513 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 5: and so there were I think it was Thursday, Friday, 514 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: and Saturday night and it was about eight thirty on 515 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 5: Friday night and the cocktail parties went from six to nine. 516 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: And he texted me and said, Hey, Red, what's going 517 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 5: on here? What is this? He said, Yeah, We're open 518 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 5: up the restaurant cocktail party tonight and tomorrow and love 519 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 5: to have you come by. Ites Like, I'm going out 520 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: of town first thing in the morning. How long you 521 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 5: going till tonight? I said, We're going as long as 522 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 5: we need to go, and shirre it off. He showed 523 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 5: up and with the life of the party. But just 524 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: that kind of a guy, that kind of a friend 525 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: and teammate to this day. 526 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: Was it easy for you guys to get a spot, 527 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: you know, at a restaurant? 528 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: Was it? 529 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: Did you ever pay for your dinner in Dallas? 530 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: Like? 531 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: What was it? Like? Beans is at the top of 532 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 2: the world back then? 533 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: I mean I saw the documentary Coach it seemed like 534 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: a crazy time for you guys. 535 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a crazy time, but an amazing time, 536 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 5: and if you reflect on it, you know, it's probably 537 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 5: one of the four or five best teams in the 538 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 5: history of the National Football League. If you go back 539 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: to go by decade, go go back to Green Bay 540 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: in the sixties, and the Steelers of the seventies, the 541 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: you know, the Niners of the eighties, the Cowboys of 542 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 5: the nineties, and then the Patriots since then, and there's 543 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: certainly some other teams. The Dolphins had amazing teams. Obviously 544 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: the team that went undefeated, but if you think about 545 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 5: a time to win three Super Bowls in four years, 546 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: and in the year that we didn't win, you know, 547 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: we lost in the NFC Championship Game to San Francisco. 548 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: Amazing arrow of football and great coaching and some obviously 549 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: great Hall of Fame players, and people love football in 550 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: Texas As, you know, so when the Cowboys are winning 551 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: Super Bowls like that, it's an amazing experience to be 552 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 5: part of it. And we had so many incredible personalities too. 553 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 5: I mean, if you think about a Troy Aikman, but 554 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: you know, you mentioned Michael Ervin Emitt Smith, Charles Haley, 555 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 5: then Dion Sanders shows up and so many more. So 556 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 5: a real cast of characters, you know, I think Daryl 557 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 5: Johnston says it best though. You know, we had a 558 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: lot of characters on that team. But it was a 559 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 5: self regulating team. You know. The players really kept each 560 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 5: other in line, held each other accountable, and I think 561 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 5: that was a big reason for the success. But certainly 562 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: were fun times in Dallas for all of us and 563 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: fortunate to be a part of that experience. 564 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: When you're the coach and you have a team that 565 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: is veteran led, like the one you're talking about there, 566 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: is it so different than when it's not veteran led 567 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: and the organizations that you ran. Did you have a 568 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: team where you had to be more of a coach 569 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: than other times? 570 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 5: Well, no doubt. Sometimes you have a younger team and 571 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: you have teams, you have teams where you're really trying 572 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 5: to empower the guys to take charge and take ownership 573 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 5: of the team and understand that it's their team and 574 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 5: their time and it's time for them to make their mark. 575 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 5: And you know, the expression we always used to use is, 576 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 5: you know, good teams have a head coach who hold 577 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 5: everybody accountable. But the great teams, the championship teams have 578 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 5: a head, coach, coaches, staff members, captains, leaders, and everybody 579 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: who hold themselves and each other accountable of the standards. 580 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: And those Championship Ship teams in the nineties certainly did that, 581 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 5: and it's something we always aspired to. But sometimes when 582 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: you have a younger team, you have to almost give 583 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 5: the guys permission to take over, take charge. And we 584 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 5: certainly were fortunate when I was coaching to have some 585 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: amazing leaders as well. When you think about you know, 586 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 5: Jason Whitten, and you know Zach Martin and Sean Leleey 587 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 5: and all these guys. You know, Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, 588 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: I can go on and on and on with the guys. 589 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 5: So we certainly got to that point. But again, allowing 590 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 5: those guys to take charge, empowering them, giving them opportunities 591 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 5: to do that. I think that's critical for any championship team. 592 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: In episode one of your new show, Coach to Coach, 593 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: I saw you had coach Doungee on and have a 594 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: couple experience with Coach Dungee and just such a kind guy. 595 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if your experience with him as a 596 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: peer is the same. But not only was he so 597 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: kind to me in both times that we spent any 598 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: time together. How does a guy like that, like, how 599 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: does he crack the whip as a head coach at 600 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: the same time as just being like an awesome human. 601 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's greatness, He really is. He's one of the 602 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 5: best people I've ever met in my life. And you know, 603 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: he's lived his life a certain way, and I think 604 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: anybody who's ever been around him just simply respects him 605 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 5: as a guy first and forem most. And then you know, 606 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: he was an amazing player in college at the University 607 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 5: of Minnesota, then goes to the Steelers and is part 608 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 5: of some Super Bowl teams again, you know, some of 609 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 5: the best teams ever assembled. He was part of that, 610 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: and then coached for a long time there and then 611 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 5: in other spots. So I just I just think he 612 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 5: had so much credibility and when he spoke, his his 613 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 5: his coaches and his players listened and they respected what 614 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 5: he said. He's not a frivolous guy in any way, 615 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: and he's just someone who who I think has set 616 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: the standard in so many ways for how to behave 617 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: in the leadership role and certainly as a head coach, 618 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: and his success did not happen by accident. You know, 619 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: every so often he'll tell a story about how he 620 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 5: got mad at at the team, or he got mad 621 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 5: at somebody and raised his voice. He told one of 622 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 5: those stories in our podcast together, and you know, the 623 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 5: level of him raising his voice is not that high, 624 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: but that just the way he did it. And anybody 625 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: who was around him as a coach or as a player, 626 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 5: he just commanded their respect. And you know, UH did 627 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 5: it as well as anybody. And I was so fortunate 628 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: when I went to NBC. He was so generous with me, 629 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 5: you know, first getting into TV. I mean, I can't 630 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: tell you the time he spent with me, showing me 631 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: different things, sharing different bits of wisdom that he learned 632 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 5: along the way. And he just an amazing guy. I'm 633 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 5: fortunate to call him a friend. 634 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: So in your episode, do you guys talk football or 635 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: leadership or both? 636 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: You know, I think the big thing for us is 637 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 5: you talk about leadership and team building and a lot 638 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: of people using this word culture so much lately. You know, 639 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 5: the environment that you create when you're in those roles, 640 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 5: and you know, I learned a long time ago that 641 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 5: telling stories is something that probably resonates more with the audience. 642 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 5: You know, I used to tell stories as a head 643 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: coach to try to make a point to our team. 644 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: And so what we try to do is is tell 645 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 5: some stories about experiences that these guys have had and 646 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 5: really the lessons that they've learned. And it's not about 647 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 5: yesterday's game, this year's team, any of that stuff. It's 648 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 5: more about their experiences head coach, when you went to 649 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: Tampa in ninety six, you know, and you had a 650 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 5: vision for the team, Where's that vision come from? And 651 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 5: he goes into all the different influences that he's had 652 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 5: and relates stories and again lessons that he learned along 653 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 5: the way. And the thing that I'm most excited about 654 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: is I think it applies to I know it applies 655 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: to people who are in roles. If you're a head 656 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: football coach, you're you're a head coach, and any sports arena, 657 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 5: you know, this is invaluable stuff. But I think you know, 658 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 5: if you're a leader, if you're trying to build a 659 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: team in any walk of life, I think there are 660 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 5: some amazing bits of wisdom that you can learn. You 661 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 5: know from Coach Dungee and the other guests we've had 662 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: on so really fun for me. I learned so much 663 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: talking to these guys. 664 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: If you're a coach and you are extremely personable and liked, 665 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: do you need a guy on staff that's kind of 666 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: the headhunter? And then opposite, if you're hardcore, do you 667 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: need like a player assistant that can be the guy 668 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: that they like into when need to hug oh. 669 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 5: I always thought it was so important to build a 670 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 5: staff that had a lot of different personalities on it. 671 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 5: I always thought, you know, have young guys, have older guys, 672 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: have loud guys, have quiet guys, white guys, black guys, 673 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: green guys, blue guys, you know, whatever background origin that 674 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: you can have to be able to relate to players 675 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 5: different ways. The worst thing you can do is build 676 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 5: a staff that's identical to who you are. I think 677 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 5: you want to be able to interact with players a 678 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 5: lot of different ways, and everybody kind of plays off 679 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: of each other. So I think that's a really important 680 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 5: important part of it. And you want everybody to be themselves. 681 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 5: You know, authenticity is so important, so I think that's 682 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: a big piece of this thing too. So I think 683 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 5: you have to be really thoughtful while you put the 684 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: staff together. Having a combination of personalities and backgrounds. I 685 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 5: think that's what works best in connecting with the team. 686 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: One of my closest friends is Matt Castle, who played 687 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: for the Cowboys for a while, and him talk and 688 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: he says there was a point in his career where 689 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: he then in his mind he was the backup quarterback 690 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: and he needed to be great for the room, meaning 691 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: the quarterback room, because he started, he got injured. Then 692 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: he was just moving around being the backup at a 693 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: lot of different places. When you're backing up, are you 694 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: always trying to get the head job or when did 695 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: you decide I'm just going to be a great backup. 696 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 5: Well, I can relate to what Matt's talking about because 697 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 5: I was a backup for fourteen years, and you know, 698 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 5: first and foremost, I wanted to be a great teammate. 699 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: I wanted to be someone who supported the starting quarterback 700 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 5: because you know, when I was in college, I was 701 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 5: very fortunate. One of my best friends in the world 702 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 5: is Brian Baron. He's actually the president of the Cleveland 703 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 5: Guardians now. He was our backup quarterback and just an 704 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 5: amazing friend and amazing support system for me, and I 705 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 5: just appreciated that so much. And I tried to do 706 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 5: that for my time in Dallas with Troy and Wade 707 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 5: Wilson and Rodney Pete and the other guys you know, 708 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 5: for eight years, and then certainly in New York with 709 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 5: Kerry Collins, in Tampa with bradja whoever I was around, 710 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 5: so I just knew how important it was. It's a 711 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: hard job to be a starting quarterback in the NFL, 712 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 5: and the last thing you want is to go back 713 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 5: into that quarterback room and have some guy who's kind 714 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 5: of sniping you from behind, and you want I was 715 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 5: all in. I wanted so badly for our starting quarterbacks 716 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 5: to play great and do whatever I could to help 717 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 5: those guys. So that doesn't that's not independent of saying 718 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 5: I have aspirations too to be a starting quarterback. The 719 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 5: biggest thing for me was just be ready when your 720 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 5: opportunity presents itself, and that's always what I tried to do, 721 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 5: and take advantage of that and see where that takes you. 722 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: Are the Cowboys gonna be good this year? 723 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 5: I think they are going to be good. I do 724 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 5: you know, I think you have to remember where they 725 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 5: came from. 726 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: UH. 727 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 5: Last year they were there were they won seven games, 728 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 5: and if you look at the teams they beat, UH, 729 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 5: they really weren't very good. They beat the Commanders twice, 730 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 5: they beat the Giants, the Jets, the Raiders, you know, 731 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 5: teams that weren't real good. They lost to Arizona. Kansas City, 732 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 5: who they beat, had a down year. They did have 733 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 5: a great win against Philadelphia, obviously, but you know in 734 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 5: games where they needed to compete against teams that were 735 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 5: where they were or better than them, they kind of 736 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 5: went away. And I think the easy explanation for that is, 737 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 5: you know, the defense wasn't very good, offense was great, 738 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 5: defense was terrible, and certainly the Micah Parsons situation hung 739 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 5: over their team. And they're in a much better place 740 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 5: now replacing him with some veteran guys. If you think 741 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 5: about Quinn Williams and Rashan Gary and Kenny Clark, veteran 742 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 5: guys who've established themselves in this league. They have some 743 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 5: young guys. The Caleb down selection I think is excellent. 744 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 5: Malachi Lawrence looks like he has a chance to be 745 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: a big time rusher. So they're really putting some pieces 746 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 5: together on that side of the ball, and offensively, they 747 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 5: got a ton of They got a ton of talent. 748 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 5: The receivers are off the charts. Dax to me is 749 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 5: the top five quarterback plays as well as anybody in 750 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 5: the league offensive line. Three first round picks, so there's 751 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 5: a lot of there's a lot of resources there and 752 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 5: I think they're set up to have a lot of success. 753 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 5: The big thing for me is did they dig in 754 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: and compete and fight and scratch and claw. They didn't 755 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 5: do that well enough last year, and I think that's 756 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 5: the next step for them. 757 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: Mahomes is able to go in camp, but what does 758 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 2: that actually mean for him coming up that injury. 759 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 5: You know, I don't know. I'm not there, you know, 760 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 5: I did see that news, and I think the biggest 761 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 5: thing that I learned with injuries is you just have 762 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: to make sure that you don't rush guys back, and 763 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 5: sometimes you have to protect them from themselves because you know, 764 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 5: nobody wants to play more than Patrick Mahomes, I mean, 765 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 5: the ultimate competitors. So he's dying and he's trying to 766 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 5: convince everybody in that building, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, 767 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 5: and those guys are professional enough to know that, hey, 768 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 5: we're going to decide when you're ready. But but you know, 769 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 5: airing on the side of caution and being deliberate and 770 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 5: patient with that, I think is really smart. It's a 771 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 5: long season, going to play the Super Bowl until February 772 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 5: thirteenth of twenty twenty seven, so there's there's a lot 773 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 5: of time between now and then. So you know, my 774 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 5: hope is that he takes his time, really make sure 775 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 5: that he's ready to go before he gets back out there. 776 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 5: But I know he's chopping of the bit, and you know, 777 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 5: I think I think as an organization, they're chopping at 778 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 5: the bit to come back from the kind of year 779 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 5: they had last year. 780 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: My final question, you have Joe Girardi coming up on 781 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: your show, and I grew up a massive Cubs fan. 782 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: So he was a catcher for the Cubs with Damon 783 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: Barry Hill way back in the day, and then he 784 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: went to the Yankees. Obviously he coached the Yankees. But 785 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: what do you think the through line is of players 786 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: who become really good coacher managers. 787 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 5: It's a great question. You know a lot of people 788 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 5: say that, you know, you know, it's harder for great 789 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 5: players to be great coaches or managers, because sometimes things 790 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 5: happen so easily for them. You know, the great Ted 791 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 5: Williams line, see the ball, hit the ball, and you 792 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 5: know a lot of times those great players just say 793 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 5: go do it, you know, and it was easy for 794 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 5: them to just go do it, and maybe a lesser player, 795 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 5: backup player, had to had to learn all the tricks 796 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 5: to the trade to get himself even to a point 797 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 5: where he survives. And maybe that lends itself to being 798 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 5: a better coach as they go forward. But I don't 799 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 5: know that there's any particular you know, formula or through line, 800 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 5: like you said that that connects it all. But I 801 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 5: do know that when you're a backup player, sometimes you're 802 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 5: observing a little bit more and you're seeing what makes 803 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 5: a team great and what makes a player great, and 804 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 5: you're learning the different techniques and these are the things 805 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 5: you need to do to survive, and sometimes that certainly 806 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 5: benefits you going forward, you know. Visiting with Joe he 807 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 5: was phenomenal. I just you know, he's a good friend 808 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 5: of mine, and we could have talked for four hours 809 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 5: because he's such a good guy, and he related some 810 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 5: of his experiences being around those great Yankee teams as 811 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 5: a player in the nineties and what made those teams great, 812 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 5: and then some of the lessons he learned that he 813 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 5: tried to apply as a manager himself when they won 814 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 5: the World Series. And he's so articulate. He represents all 815 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 5: things that are good to me in life. He's a 816 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 5: great family man, but you know, just his passion for 817 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 5: the game and doing things the right way, it all 818 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 5: comes through. And he was such a fun guy to 819 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 5: talk to. 820 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 2: Some of the guests Coach has on a show coming 821 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: up Coach to Coach, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Joe Madden, 822 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: who's massive for me again being a Cubs fan, like 823 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: that was it twenty sixteen? That was like the Holy Grail. 824 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 5: He's freaking greatness again. I keep saying this, but I 825 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 5: could have talked to him for four hours. And he's 826 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 5: such a funny, interesting guy. He's got a great perspective 827 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 5: on life, and he tells some great stories about that 828 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 5: run in twenty sixteen and the different decisions he had 829 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 5: to make. So so much fun having him on as well. 830 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: Guys, check out Coach to Coach on YouTube or Spotify, 831 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast coach, really appreciate 832 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: the time. I hope the podcast gets you everything you 833 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 2: want out of it, and you know, hopefully we'll see 834 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: you back on the sidelines. What's up with that when 835 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: you can come ack or what, Well, we'll see. 836 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 5: I'm just living it each day and enjoying what I'm 837 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 5: doing at NBC right now and excited. I don't know 838 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 5: if you know, we're gonna travel the games each week 839 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 5: this year, so you know, Maria Taylor and Devin mccordy, 840 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin and I will be on the sidelines each week. 841 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 5: So excited about that. I'm doing the Notre Dame Games, 842 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 5: so fun stuff ahead of NBC. But you know, I 843 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 5: just take it one day at a time and try 844 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 5: to brace the moment. 845 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: Coach, thank you for your time. Good luck with that 846 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: with the show, and hopefully we'll talk to you soon. 847 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I look forward to it. Thanks man, Thanks coach. 848 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 2: Okay, before we go, I heard kick off Kevin, who's 849 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: not here today. He's on vacation. Yeah, I heard he 850 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: got out of the Bobby Owned show group chat. He did. 851 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: What happened? I don't know. 852 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 3: He just we were talking about some stuff or sending 853 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: pictures to each other to post, like, hey, do you 854 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 3: have any pictures of you guys doing something on the weekend. 855 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 3: We're gonna post that cool and that of nowhere, Kevin 856 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: just says, I don't think you guys me in this chat, 857 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 3: so I'm just gonna let myself out. And we were 858 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 3: like what, And before we can even like respond to him, 859 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: it said, Kevin has. 860 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: Left the conversation. What do you think happened? 861 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 3: I think maybe he has just seen too much conversing 862 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 3: about stuff that doesn't pertain to him, and he's just like, 863 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 3: I really can do without all the buzzing my phone 864 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 3: buzzing over and over over stuff that I really don't 865 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 3: care about and it doesn't concern me. 866 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: But does it ever concern him in that chat? I'm 867 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 2: not in nice. 868 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes yeah, sometimes like hey, we're all going to do 869 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: this and he's part of it, you know, is everyone 870 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: that works. 871 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: For the show. But he just saw himself out. I 872 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. Who told you, Amy? Yeah? And 873 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: then he was not here today on the show. So 874 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: because it's on vacation. 875 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 7: Well, the crazy thing is he used it a week 876 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 7: before to find crutches. 877 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: You're right, Mike. 878 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: Here's the chat Mike, what do you think happened? 879 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 7: I guess he got annoyed by the buzzing. But even then, 880 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 7: just silence it. Notifications. 881 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I just ignore, like I ignore you guys all 882 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 2: the time. I have been in group chats that I 883 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: just mute the notifications, or if I look at my phone, 884 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: it's there, but it doesn't pop up as a notification. 885 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: You can just mute it. That's a that's an idea. 886 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 2: It'll show up as a red number, but it doesn't 887 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 2: buzz or actually even pop up on my screen. But 888 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: if I go to see if I have any mistext 889 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 2: or any text at all, it'll be part of the numbers. 890 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 2: But I'm not in any group anymore. Yeah, you're in 891 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: the doulas. I guess it's not football season so called 892 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 2: latinos for Cowboys. I don't know. We've changed it a 893 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 2: few times. 894 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 7: What are you saying, Mike, No, it just feels weird 895 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 7: to me, like very definitive to leave the conversation, dude 896 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 7: out of nowhere. 897 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 3: You're right, and it's weird because you feel like it. 898 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: That's a big step to let everyone know you're leaving, like, hey, guys, 899 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: And then it says it like Kevin has left the conversation. 900 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: What if he would have just left? But that is 901 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 2: that better or worse? I would say it's worse. 902 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: I would say it's worse if it just said like him, 903 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 3: have left the conversation. 904 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 2: So what did you say before his hurrah? Because that 905 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 2: matters too. If he said something like, Hey, I'm going 906 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: on vacation for a week and a lot of this 907 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: is stuff that doesn't pertain to my job. I'm gonna 908 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: hop out of this, Okay, I don't feel so weird 909 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 2: about that. I'm gonna readbat them. 910 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, he says, I'm gonna bounce out of 911 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 7: this chat. Please hit me up on the side for 912 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 7: any show stuff if needed. 913 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: Thanks. Whoa. 914 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 3: It sounds like years and years of like putting up 915 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 3: with crap like what, we haven't talked about anything crazy 916 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: on there? 917 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: Just like use it that often? No, we really don't. 918 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 2: And that's funny. 919 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: Mike said he did use it for his own advantage 920 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 3: the last time he brought. 921 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: Him because of the group chat. You know you can 922 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: put them back in. You can, yeah, oh you gotta 923 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: use at him. We're gonna do that then, Like you 924 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: can get on your phone right now and out of fasts. 925 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: He will not even know he's back in until it 926 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: starts blowing up his phone again. Because you can add 927 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: someone easily. 928 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 3: That's funny. Yeah, who knows. That was weird for sure. 929 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 2: A three person one, though, you can't get out of Okay, 930 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: you must like to die, you can't. I don't think 931 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 2: you can remove your stuff from a three person group chat. 932 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: But you guys have a big one though. 933 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 3: And does it have to be the person that opened 934 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 3: it up or the person that started the group chat? 935 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: I think you can do it right now. You could 936 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: go into that and there's an ad to group chat. 937 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: You can just add Kevin. I can like it never happened. 938 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 6: You're back, buddy, and Mike you can just say you 939 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 6: remember those crutches. 940 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: That's see, I see it. 941 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 8: Kevin, he's back back. There we go, he's back, Mike. 942 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 8: Do you see he's back? Say, Kevin's re entered. Eddie added, 943 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 8: that is genius. 944 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: We need to talk about this. We're not done. You 945 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 2: can't just leave. Don't you walk out on me, dude. 946 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: That's funny. Thank you. Yeah, that's good stuff. That's funny. 947 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: All right, we're done thanks to Jason Garrett coming on 948 00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: I hope you guys have a great rest of the week. 949 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: We'll catch up soon, all right, Eddie blow it? All right, 950 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: see you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's 951 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 2: Me and performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials 952 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 2: at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on 953 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports. Thanks to our crew co 954 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: host at producer Eddie, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, and 955 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: executive producer at Mike Gestro. But most importantly, thank you 956 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time. 957 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 2: Here on twenty five Whistles