Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Waken. Jake. Anthony santan Dare is
Speaker 1: a Blue Jay. I told you months ago there's receipts.
Speaker 1: I don't care, you don't care. I think the Blue
Speaker 1: Jays are a fun conversation. They've been popping up here
Speaker 1: talking baseball wherever, and then I think it's time to
Speaker 1: go back through the teams and do a quick who
Speaker 1: can be done and be satisfied. We'll wrap up with
Speaker 1: a little football as two of the final three games
Speaker 1: of the season. We'll know who's playing in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl after Sunday. That's pretty wild. But we're gonna start
Speaker 1: with baseball because that's what the people like. And I
Speaker 1: did think about tier listing this late. Me and BBD
Speaker 1: both did a head tilt. You got tier lists coming.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through the positions this year with our
Speaker 1: guy Jolly. Maybe some foolish, but I want to start
Speaker 1: with Santandre because it leads into the exercise of the
Speaker 1: Blue Jays sign Anthony, so I am taking credit for
Speaker 1: that one. His free agency from the start just smelled
Speaker 1: like Toronto. Because when you're signing a free agent and
Speaker 1: there's some I don't want to say risk, but risk
Speaker 1: of what how can this go bad? Anthony Santander forty
Speaker 1: four home runs last year, contract year like it almost
Speaker 1: him having a contract year. I feel almost scared teams.
Speaker 1: More like, if Anthony Santander had another thirty three home
Speaker 1: run season, I feel like he would have been a
Speaker 1: hot name for eighteen to twenty MILLI year at winter meetings. Instead,
Speaker 1: he kind of went nuts last year forty four homers,
Speaker 1: but the on base percentage went down, the batting average
Speaker 1: went down. So it's an interesting look at Anthony Santander,
Speaker 1: who has been one of the best power hitters in baseball.
Speaker 1: I think he's sixth in home run the past three years.
Speaker 1: As a switch hitting outfielder without a super weak side,
Speaker 1: he is the perfect piece to put in any lineup.
Speaker 1: I think switch hitters are underrated still. I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some baseball team that like figures that out. Anyways,
Speaker 1: he has been nothing but fantastic since twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: with part of that Baltimore growth. The problem is he
Speaker 1: doesn't rack up war He is not good defensively, so
Speaker 1: you're either hiding him in the corner or you're gonna
Speaker 1: put him in the DH spot. I think Toronto's planning
Speaker 1: on hiding him in the corner. I guess they've got
Speaker 1: options as of now. What is scary? Hey, Tony Tators
Speaker 1: two thirty five three Toho eight on base that's pretty daunting.
Speaker 1: But he hit forty four homers. He hasn't eight fourteen ops.
Speaker 1: So if you're comparing him straight up ops to different players,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, how much did he beat Luisa
Speaker 1: rise in ops last year? Let's see Luis rises ops
Speaker 1: was seven thirty nine. Obviously extremely different ballplayer. I probably
Speaker 1: should have had a more balanced example. I could go
Speaker 1: to Nathaniel Lowe, who I always bring up, who's more
Speaker 1: of an all around contributor. I think Anthony Santander the
Speaker 1: fear factor isn't there for me like it may have
Speaker 1: been for teams, because Anthony Santonder swings, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: You know. I think he had eight home runs on
Speaker 1: pitches out of the zone. I think that was the
Speaker 1: most in baseball, and second most was four or five. Like,
Speaker 1: Anthony Santander goes up swinging, but he nets results from it,
Speaker 1: so I don't think he has to be penalized necessarily
Speaker 1: for that. And he's hit home runs the last three years,
Speaker 1: one hundred twenty ops plus one twenty one ops plus
Speaker 1: one thirty four Last year, Toronto has been looking for
Speaker 1: a lefty.
Speaker 2: Hitter.
Speaker 1: Since this is a fun game. Ooh, okay, this is
Speaker 1: a fun game live the Toronto Blue Jays. If you recall,
Speaker 1: they traded for Dalton Varshow a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: because they needed a lefty impact hitter. Dalton Varshow hasn't
Speaker 1: been that guy for him, He's been great defensively. Last
Speaker 1: year's team No. Twenty twenty three, No. Twenty twenty two, No,
Speaker 1: it was Alrighty ta Oscar George Springer. Lord is Gurriel
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman. People forget Bobashett Vladimir Guerrero. That team was
Speaker 1: so righty that they traded serious assets. Remember Gabby Moreno
Speaker 1: for Varshow twenty twenty one Vlad Simeon's massive year. The
Speaker 1: set lord is Gurriel Randall Gerchick. The Oscar is George Springer.
Speaker 1: Alrighty Cavin Bigio was supposed to be one of the
Speaker 1: lefties for this team. It never really clicked in it.
Speaker 1: I mean his okay, he had a he had an
Speaker 1: eight seven ops in the shortened twenty twenty season. So hey,
Speaker 1: that's good for Cavin Bigio. I don't know how much accounts.
Speaker 1: Rowdy Tiles was great in the shortened season. Let's exclude
Speaker 1: the shortened season. Twenty nineteen. Justin Smoke was league average. Hmm,
Speaker 1: Rowdy te Les was a little under league average. I
Speaker 1: don't think Eric so Guard went nuts for seventy three games.
Speaker 1: What is baseball? How does that happen? I don't think
Speaker 1: I can count that twenty eighteen. These are during some
Speaker 1: of the Blue Jays dark years. Okay, Justin Smoke has
Speaker 1: a good twenty five homer, eight h eight ops in
Speaker 1: there is there anyone else? Hendris Morales?
Speaker 2: My goodness, I think I've got eyes on like a
Speaker 2: solid hundred games out of Curtis Granderson that year.
Speaker 1: What was this team? Is this real?
Speaker 2: Is this a pr?
Speaker 1: Devin Travis? Wow? Okay, So to go back to a
Speaker 1: full season of a left handed or switch hitter giving
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays an eight hundred ops, you gotta go
Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen. So Anthony Santander had that last year.
Speaker 1: So I like that for the Blue Jays because they're
Speaker 1: banking on Boba Schett bouncing back. They're banking on Vladimir
Speaker 1: Guerrero's full blown breakout last year continuing to be a
Speaker 1: full blown breakout. You can put together a nice lineup
Speaker 1: there if you can get something from George Springer, one
Speaker 1: of your young guys does something. Alejandro Kirk can be
Speaker 1: around league average or better. Maybe Jimenez you hope the same.
Speaker 1: But defensively you're gonna rack up war there and even
Speaker 1: Dalton varshow so like I kind of like that. You
Speaker 1: can look at the Blue Jays now and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Var show, Jimenez, Kirk top and framing last year. You
Speaker 1: three are out there for defense, Vladdie bo Santander, you
Speaker 1: guys are out there for offense. They need more if
Speaker 1: we're being real, in the American League and the American
Speaker 1: League East, they're still there's a much easier argument that
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays are the worst team than the second
Speaker 1: best team. So the Blue Jays have to do some
Speaker 1: more work, and it seems like they're getting in the mix.
Speaker 1: I think, would they just sign a backup catcher and
Speaker 1: a reliever?
Speaker 3: Your guy, they got Christian Beth in court, They got
Speaker 3: your guy, Richard Lovelady.
Speaker 1: Did you take Dick Lovelady in a reliever draft a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Uh, Dick Blier, I think I ended up.
Speaker 1: I mean he's also known as Anyways, the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: have to do more work if we need to actually
Speaker 1: talk about them, because the example I used on talking
Speaker 1: baseball was can the Blue Jays lineup be above average?
Speaker 1: I think so if everything goes right for the Jays
Speaker 1: next year, if Lattie's that guy, if stand or Santander
Speaker 1: boba Chet bounces back, you have three real weapons in
Speaker 1: the lineup that if you get anything out of Kirk Kamenez,
Speaker 1: Ernie Clement had a fine year. I think their offense
Speaker 1: could be above league average. That's good. Their rotation, I
Speaker 1: think could be above league average. Kevin Gossman, who had
Speaker 1: a down year, still was three war A three eight,
Speaker 1: three thirty one starts if Kevin Gossman bounces back a
Speaker 1: little bit. Okay, Barrios had a fine year. Out In
Speaker 1: Francis had a late breakout last year. Chris Bassett is
Speaker 1: solid Yari L. Rodriguez, Do I think they can be elite?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Do I think that rotation in the right year could
Speaker 1: be above average. Yeah, they were fourteenth in era last year,
Speaker 1: and Gossman I think has a little more. No mention
Speaker 1: of Alec Manoa. Anyways, their bullpen was horrendous last year.
Speaker 1: That's the easiest thing to change. They were twenty ninth
Speaker 1: in era. Jeff Hoffman they signed to a free agent contract.
Speaker 1: Who knows if he's starting or if he's back there.
Speaker 1: Chad Green, Jimmy Garcia, Eric Swanson, Nick Sandlin. They just
Speaker 1: signed Dick clove Lady. Like we talked about, bullpens are volatile.
Speaker 1: Do I think the Blue Jays could have an above
Speaker 1: average bullpen? I do? Do I think all three of
Speaker 1: those things are going to happen? I don't. I think
Speaker 1: one or two. But in the Al East, you know
Speaker 1: this is a fight or flight year for the Orioles,
Speaker 1: the Yankees. You know, Yankee fans will tell you the
Speaker 1: team might be better. Don't know if I buy that yet.
Speaker 1: The Red Sox are greatly improved. They look really strong,
Speaker 1: and the Rays are gonna raise that. There's almost My
Speaker 1: favorite Rays game to play is like for them to
Speaker 1: have seventy two wins. I don't even know how that
Speaker 1: happens anymore. They just throw different arms and they play defense.
Speaker 1: That to have a horrible season doesn't happen. The Blue
Speaker 1: Jays finished last in the AL East last year. They
Speaker 1: didn't lose much. They lost Jordan Romano a couple other relievers,
Speaker 1: so again that could be a good thing. And they've
Speaker 1: added Anthony Santandre. So it really spins into the question
Speaker 1: of are the Blue Jays done? They've been in on
Speaker 1: every free agent. What else are they gonna do? Which
Speaker 1: spun me into who's done? So we'll play a quick
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Speaker 1: Jaki's alphabetical burn through the Ale in the NL. My
Speaker 1: favorite game that I don't know if you people like
Speaker 1: or hate, I guess comment below because sometimes I get
Speaker 1: sucked into this. And again, I could have full tiered this,
Speaker 1: but there's so many teams that kind of don't matter,
Speaker 1: and you got tierless coming, I promise you. The Athletics
Speaker 1: are listed first now because they don't have a home reminder.
Speaker 1: They could be done. They still have to add money, right,
Speaker 1: I assume at least one more money adding move. But
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, I guess the game is
Speaker 1: could A's fans be satisfied with their team's offseason? It's
Speaker 1: a loaded question. Let's just say the A's could be done.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the game. Could the A's be done? Yes, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: Could Baltimore be done? This is an interesting one for me.
Speaker 1: I think me and BBD landed on the same answer.
Speaker 1: I believe they could. They added starting pitching depth with
Speaker 1: Morton and Sugano. They added Andrew Kittridge in their bullpen,
Speaker 1: which also added Felix Bautista after missing all of last year.
Speaker 1: And dude, I forget they got both Philly guys between
Speaker 1: Sir Anthony Dominga's Gregory Soto. I haven't mentioned Yeni Cano yet.
Speaker 1: Keegan Aiken had a breakout year. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys in the bullpen.
Speaker 3: And they have top back to the starters like Albert
Speaker 3: Suarez currently listed in that bullpen.
Speaker 2: They have whichever Rogers.
Speaker 3: Is the one they have that's listed in the miners
Speaker 3: at this moment they have. They have Bradish and Wells
Speaker 3: and Wells coming back at some.
Speaker 2: Point during this season. They they very well could be
Speaker 2: done with their winter editions.
Speaker 1: It could be done. We expected something last year. They
Speaker 1: had a Tyler O'Neal to the outfield to essentially replace Antandere.
Speaker 1: They still have more young guys on the way Kobe Mayo,
Speaker 1: Samuel Bissalo the number one prospect in baseball. I don't
Speaker 1: you know. You never know if an agent is doing stuff.
Speaker 1: Me and him are follow for follow on Instagram and
Speaker 1: I think he likes stuff, so again, that could be
Speaker 1: his agent. I guess, but I don't know. Shout out
Speaker 1: to my guy, big fan. The Orioles could be done
Speaker 1: and that could be okay for them. The Boston Red
Speaker 1: Sox are they done? I think it's an interesting case
Speaker 1: of things and stuff. I don't think they are, or
Speaker 1: I don't think they can be. I mean, they've obviously
Speaker 1: been the lead for Bregman for the past couple months.
Speaker 1: Their rotation can be done Crochet how Bayo, Crawford, Bueler,
Speaker 1: no mention of Giolito, who should be working his way
Speaker 1: back sand of all end of the year. They can
Speaker 1: be done in the rotation, They can be done in
Speaker 1: the bullpen. It's funny. Their lineup is good, but if
Speaker 1: they come into the lineup without another bat, I do
Speaker 1: think Red Sox fans would be disappointed. Like you've made
Speaker 1: it this far, so I guess if the column is
Speaker 1: could be done with your offseason or could not be
Speaker 1: done I think the Red Sox could not, should not
Speaker 1: be done, couldn't, shouldn't, wouldn't. What's with those.
Speaker 2: Words should, shouldn't but.
Speaker 1: Could shouldn't be done? Chicago White Sox are so irrelevant
Speaker 1: it actually made me mad today. Made me mad today
Speaker 1: with all the conversation about if the Dodgers are like
Speaker 1: illegal or bad for baseball. As long as the White
Speaker 1: Sox are rolling this out there, I don't think the
Speaker 1: other side can have an argument. The Chicago White Sox
Speaker 1: should have a two hundred and fifty million dollars payroll.
Speaker 1: You know what. Let me let me read you there
Speaker 1: a lot. Just in case you missed the White Sox
Speaker 1: offseason talkman leading off in right field, Luis Robert in centerfield,
Speaker 1: Andrew ben and Tendi and left, Andrew Vaughan at first,
Speaker 1: Josh Rojas at third, Lennon Sosa at second, Miguel Vargas
Speaker 1: listed as the DH Brooks bald when at shortstop. Not
Speaker 1: familiar with your game, my friend Corey Leott catcher, Matt Tye,
Speaker 1: Nick Mayton, Zach Deloch and all and Slater listed as
Speaker 1: their bench. Your White Sox, Ace Martin Perez, Jonathan Cannon,
Speaker 1: Davis Martin, Sean Burke, and Bryce Wilson. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do the bullpen. So yeah, if you're someone that's been
Speaker 1: mad about the Dodgers the past couple of days, there
Speaker 1: are some arguments, Hey, go be mad at the White Sox.
Speaker 1: Why aren't they signing a bunch of guys? Why aren't
Speaker 1: they rumored for anyone? Be better? Could Cleveland be done? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: They just signed Paul Seawall today.
Speaker 2: They always can be done.
Speaker 1: The point of this exercise is could they be done
Speaker 1: and be? Okay? Yes, for what they're doing.
Speaker 3: We're saying it's can they be done? I guess, but
Speaker 3: we're actually fine. He's like, who has to do something?
Speaker 2: Yes? And they do not have to do anything ever there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm trying. Am I phrasing it for
Speaker 1: the fan base? I think so? For the fan base
Speaker 1: to be satisfied because the next one's interesting and I'd
Speaker 1: love if there's any listeners to reach out the Detroit
Speaker 1: Tigers if they're done, is their fan base okay with that?
Speaker 1: My assumption is yes, I know they're interested in like
Speaker 1: Bragman and that's been a thing. But if they just
Speaker 1: went through this offseason, they added labor for a year.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of young guys on the field, scooble Olsen.
Speaker 1: They signed Alex Cobb, which has been my joke throwing signing.
Speaker 1: But that's that's something Casey meies Jackson job. You know,
Speaker 1: their bullpen was strong last year. I think they could
Speaker 1: be done, and I think everyone would be like that
Speaker 1: was a fine offseason for them. They didn't hurt themselves,
Speaker 1: they didn't super help themselves. I think they'd be okay
Speaker 1: with being done. Houston, I'll tell you what, man, And
Speaker 1: this is bizarre. They signed Christian Walker. Great, they did
Speaker 1: the Kyle Tucker trade.
Speaker 2: Technically in that trade they got their Bregman replacement, right Esach, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know it. How about this. If I was an
Speaker 1: Astros fan and we came into camp next year with
Speaker 1: our outfield as Chas McCormick, Taylor Tremmell and Jake Myers,
Speaker 1: I would not be satisfied.
Speaker 2: Seems like an outfield move still has to happen in
Speaker 2: some form.
Speaker 1: It's just weird because they could not. But no, I
Speaker 1: would put them in the other bucket. If I'm putting
Speaker 1: the Red Sox in the something more has to be done.
Speaker 1: I think Houston should be in the something more has
Speaker 1: to be done bucket because that just feels incomplete.
Speaker 2: They have the more like obvious hole to fill.
Speaker 1: Is your team with your team's X. Maybe this is
Speaker 1: the exercise, is your team with your team's expectation done?
Speaker 1: Because I think Houston's fans expectation is that they are
Speaker 1: not done. Although I've heard them talking about the salary cap.
Speaker 1: I just it's hard for me to think that this
Speaker 1: is their outfield.
Speaker 3: I know the way they like do things with a
Speaker 3: lot of their free agent pursuits is shorter term deals
Speaker 3: and all that. As has been discussed with why they're
Speaker 3: even moving Kyle Tucker and he's not a free agent
Speaker 3: yet and losing for nothing all that, But you would
Speaker 3: think they can find some one or two year outfielder
Speaker 3: to add to this mix, Like I get it, and
Speaker 3: for what Santera santan Terra ended up getting, Like sure,
Speaker 3: they probably weren't going to be in in that game,
Speaker 3: even though on field he's a fit there they can.
Speaker 3: I would think they can find somebody to be a
Speaker 3: one or two year for now.
Speaker 1: Let's put them in the other bucket. They have World
Speaker 1: Series expectations and they currently have an outfield that two
Speaker 1: of them were negative war players last year that don't
Speaker 1: have incredible baseball cards. So I'm gonna say Boston and
Speaker 1: Houston still have expectations of work to be done. Kansas
Speaker 1: City Royals, they could be done, right, they could be done.
Speaker 1: Jonathan India, Michael Lorenzen, they could be done. And I
Speaker 1: think Royals fans would have their expectations. Angels, Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: we don't care. Sorry, Minnesota kind of entered that same
Speaker 1: boat pretty quickly. That's that's tough. I'm just gonna skip that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Twins fans, they're.
Speaker 3: Kind of not done in the other way where we
Speaker 3: kind of expect them to do a subtracting movie.
Speaker 1: Get uglier, trade an outfielder to Houston. I guess. I
Speaker 1: guess this is the interesting point of this exercise. I
Speaker 1: think Yankee fans, if this is it, we're not smitten,
Speaker 1: but we'd be like, Okay, this kind of hit our expectations.
Speaker 1: You lost Soto, Wow, you got Max Freed, you got
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger, you got Goldie like Devin Williams. Yes, if
Speaker 1: this is the Yankees offseason, they've done enough for the
Speaker 1: fan base to be satisfied, and yeah, I guess that's
Speaker 1: the point. I don't think Boston's there, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Houston's there. They trade away Kyle Tucker. He's really
Speaker 1: good Seattle, My god, how do you answer this? The
Speaker 1: fan base is expectations I think, unfortunately have been broken
Speaker 1: so much that this is what they expect. Donovan Solano
Speaker 1: is listed as their third baseman every day.
Speaker 2: Happy what this is.
Speaker 1: Let's put them in a side bucket. If this was
Speaker 1: a tearless there would be a box that was labeled Mariners,
Speaker 1: because that's fal Rays are luckily a quick skip. Their
Speaker 1: fan base expects nothing.
Speaker 2: They're always they're always done, and they're always not done.
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers, I think they could roll the ball out
Speaker 1: there tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they'd feel a little thin in their bullpen,
Speaker 1: but I guess for this exercise, all things considered, they
Speaker 1: have a lineup they really like. They have a rotation
Speaker 1: that's enough to like. I think Texas they could be
Speaker 1: done and that would be fine. Your final American League
Speaker 1: team is the Toronto Blue Jays, where they started this conversation.
Speaker 1: If you're a Toronto Blue Jay fan, I think you'd
Speaker 1: need one more move, and it would have to be impactful.
Speaker 1: It would have to be Dylan Cy's from the Padres,
Speaker 1: it would have to be Pete Alonso in free agency,
Speaker 1: which I like them for. If you're trying to keep Laddie,
Speaker 1: Pete and Santander Man, you could have just added seventy
Speaker 1: homers like kind of easily. So we've talked about the
Speaker 1: Toronto tacks a little bit. If Pete is willing to
Speaker 1: sign on that line, especially if he's in one of
Speaker 1: those like Cody Bellinger Matt Chapman three year with opt
Speaker 1: out deals, if you can pump those numbers up a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, if Pete goes nuts for you
Speaker 1: next year and hits fifty and opts out, that could
Speaker 1: almost be a win. So I don't think so Boston, Houston,
Speaker 1: Toronto and a weird side car bucket with Seattle. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what you do with that at all.
Speaker 1: But I think there's three teams in the American League
Speaker 1: that you can expect more moves to happen, impact moves,
Speaker 1: otherwise they would have a disappointing offseason. In the National League,
Speaker 1: Arizona is really tricky because we were told that Jordan
Speaker 1: Montgomery trade would happen from their owner. Essentially, if they
Speaker 1: were done, I think they'd be fine. They have room
Speaker 1: for a DH, that's the whole thing. But if they
Speaker 1: rolled into the spring training with this team, I mean
Speaker 1: the conversations we would have about their pitching staff, Burns, Gallon,
Speaker 1: Kelly e, Rod Fott, and Monty. They've got some bullpen depth.
Speaker 1: Their lineup was like the best lineup in baseball last
Speaker 1: year and they they lost, but they retooled. I think
Speaker 1: Snakes would be okay.
Speaker 3: They definitely could be done, like the all the Snakes says.
Speaker 3: I talked to Dalton, like they there's holding out some
Speaker 3: hope of like does Monty leaving and open up some
Speaker 3: payroll and make room for the for Pete getting that
Speaker 3: weird deal with them, Like they're they're holding out hope
Speaker 3: for more, but I don't think they're at all expecting more,
Speaker 3: which is what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the point of this is
Speaker 1: if the Diamondbacks rolled into spring training with this team.
Speaker 1: Sure there's a tweak. I think Monty for a good
Speaker 1: DH first baseman, dinonback fans are very open to if
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, I think Arizona's like we got Corbyn Burns,
Speaker 1: we traded for Josh Naylor, like we had an offseason
Speaker 1: that it kind of blew out their expectations. So I
Speaker 1: think Arizona for this exercise, I would half consider out
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves very interesting. The current current outfield platoon
Speaker 1: of Brian Day, La Cruz and Jared Kelnick doesn't have
Speaker 1: Brave fans through the roof. It's interesting. I believe in
Speaker 1: the Braves still. Remember they were supposed to be the
Speaker 1: shortstop team Willia Domis, Hassan Kim. Their rotation is currently
Speaker 1: Saale Rinaldo Lopez, Spencer Schwellenbach, Grant Holmes, and Ion Anderson
Speaker 1: Spencer Schreider. At some time, maybe next year, Iranie's gonna
Speaker 1: be back. They're interesting. I don't know the answer.
Speaker 2: I think with their history of like being aggressive mid
Speaker 2: season traders with a D, I think they could be done.
Speaker 2: That's the caveat of they'll do stuff.
Speaker 1: Doesn't pass the sniff test. Man. They lost Max Free,
Speaker 1: they lost Charlie Morton. Don't know is what it is.
Speaker 1: All the position players look scary, but that's just because
Speaker 1: they were adding guys.
Speaker 2: A lot of mid season ads in that department.
Speaker 1: Braves fans, let me know. I think I might leave
Speaker 1: them in the middle area for now.
Speaker 2: Feels like they could use one more bad and I'm
Speaker 2: sure I would guess their fans are asking for another arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I mean, what what are they truly
Speaker 1: banking on? Is Ion Anderson bounced back Grant Holmes, I,
Speaker 1: I don't know. They lost some reliable pieces that I
Speaker 1: would if I had to pick, I would lean they
Speaker 1: still have to do something like the Phillies are here,
Speaker 1: the Mets are here. I don't It's just been a
Speaker 1: lot of loss for them. They still obviously have an
Speaker 1: amazing core. But yeah, I'm I'm gonna if I I
Speaker 1: guess this is where it was. If you're a Braves
Speaker 1: fan and this was your off season, I would not
Speaker 1: be satisfied. Definitely, not definitely not so okay with that
Speaker 1: hat on, I will put the Braves in that bucket.
Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs an interesting case. I think all in they
Speaker 1: would be happy or satisfied. Excuse me. They got Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1: That was the impact move they've been waiting for for
Speaker 1: a while. Matthew Boyd for some rotation depth. Sure, if
Speaker 1: this is the team they were in the spring training with.
Speaker 1: Then you're a Cubs fan, you can talk yourself into
Speaker 1: the offseason. Kyle Tucker, we've played this game before, is
Speaker 1: probably their best player since Chris Bryant. Hobby Baya is
Speaker 1: one of his seasons. Rizzo, Yeah, I think Cubs fans
Speaker 1: would be Okay, they did just trade Michael Arius to
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Well watch out since he guys know I
Speaker 1: love my Reds. Could they be I mean they Brady Singer.
Speaker 1: The lineup's a little funky. I've talked about them, probably
Speaker 1: too much. I think if you're a Reds fan, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, our pitching looks solid, the hitting feels weird,
Speaker 1: but let's see what these young guys can do. Gavin
Speaker 1: Lux people forget Yeah. I think if you're a Reds fan,
Speaker 1: you're not like through the moon, but you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had an off season.
Speaker 2: They are not sitting here saying we needed more.
Speaker 1: If we don't do another move, this offseason was a failure.
Speaker 1: They're not saying that where I think the Braves fans
Speaker 1: could kind of say that.
Speaker 3: Braves fans like expected them to do something they kind
Speaker 3: of have not.
Speaker 1: The next two teams can happen oddly quick. The Colorado
Speaker 1: Rockies who have just agreed to minor league deals with
Speaker 1: Keston Hira and Nick Martini.
Speaker 3: They took care of their Tyrostrada business early. Yeah, Kyle
Speaker 3: Farmer too, and Trev's kind of guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's some young ballplayers. I just wish
Speaker 1: the whole tone was different. Anyways. The other end of
Speaker 1: the spectrum is the Dodgers that they could be done.
Speaker 1: They could have been done a while ago, and their
Speaker 1: fan base would have been happy. Marlin's unfortunately irrelevant, kind
Speaker 1: of rude. What goes on with that whole franchise. And again,
Speaker 1: if you're one of the people that's been mad at
Speaker 1: the Dodgers for the past twenty four hours, days, months, years.
Speaker 1: For Padres fans, the Miami Marlins should be a cash cow.
Speaker 1: That's that's ownership. That's ownership. Go look at go look
Speaker 1: at what they are currently putting on the field. They
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. I think if Miami put
Speaker 1: a team together, I think people would go.
Speaker 2: They made the playoffs two years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty four.
Speaker 3: And a weird, weird year, weird format. But like the
Speaker 3: steps back, they've taken from that point.
Speaker 1: Not reading you their lineup. The Milwaukee Burs unfortunately in
Speaker 1: a similar boat, but for good reasons. Everyone kind of
Speaker 1: believes in what their front office does. If they are done,
Speaker 1: Bruers fans are like, Yeah, let's roll it out there,
Speaker 1: let's win the central again. Mets fans, I think they
Speaker 1: go in the bucket. Yes you got Won Soto, Yes
Speaker 1: you just signed aj Minter, you have starting pitching options
Speaker 1: right now. The bottom of their lineup is listed McNeil
Speaker 1: Sirian Batty. If I told you that four of their
Speaker 1: six current starters where their fifth starter next year, you'd
Speaker 1: be excited. If I told you that those four same
Speaker 1: starters were there three starter next year, I don't think
Speaker 1: you'd be excited. So again, I think the Mets are
Speaker 1: gonna tap into the Brewers pitching factory that they built,
Speaker 1: and I think that there's gonna be solutions there that lineup.
Speaker 1: Like they lost Pete. I know it wasn't a massive
Speaker 1: year for them for Pete, but they still lost Pete
Speaker 1: that I don't know. It feels like they have another
Speaker 1: move in them, and I don't know if that's Pete
Speaker 1: or Bragman. Both fit, but like if you're doing the
Speaker 1: Sodo part of this, you have to do a couple
Speaker 1: other parts of this in my opinion, but the Mets
Speaker 1: offseason is also just a massive win. They signed Wan Soda,
Speaker 1: kat Ma and Iah Okay. Put them in the Mariner's bucket.
Speaker 2: They're kind of the Mariners bad.
Speaker 1: They hate that tier list and would both franchises be
Speaker 1: very confused while they're lumped together. The Philadelphia Phillies could
Speaker 1: be good. They've they've got their core. Max Kepler could
Speaker 1: be a sneaky When there's a sneaky signings of the
Speaker 1: offseason list, watch out for that. Uh Jesus Jesus Lozardo
Speaker 1: as there as they're five. I guess that's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying where the Mets. If the Phillies are currently the
Speaker 1: team you're keeping up with, If you're the Mets and
Speaker 1: the Braves, you can't be ecstatic? Is that a weird
Speaker 1: word to say? Why do I struggle with that?
Speaker 2: A static ecstatic?
Speaker 1: Ecstatic Phillies fans are fine. Put Pittsburgh in Seattle on
Speaker 1: the same boat and row it out to see crazy
Speaker 1: San Diego. Limiting circumstances outside of baseball that I don't
Speaker 1: know could the San Francisco Giants fans be happy enough,
Speaker 1: I think so. I know they want more, but justin
Speaker 1: Verlander culture shift, Willia domis you extended, Matt Chapman, Jung
Speaker 1: Hooley should be back. I think as a Giants fan,
Speaker 1: you always want more, but they check the boxes for you.
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals fans, they're kind of handcuffed that I
Speaker 1: guess they don't expect anything. So again, that's the whole
Speaker 1: part of this exercise that I think they'd unfortunately be okay,
Speaker 1: do they have enough pitching? Kind of?
Speaker 2: I think they're nervous. I think their fans would probably
Speaker 2: be nervous if they were to do something. How about
Speaker 2: this is going to direction They don't want to.
Speaker 1: Go, that's fine, but they still have to do it.
Speaker 1: Like for how much they've heard about Aaron Otto and Hellsley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the Aeronauta thing, and dude, how long are
Speaker 3: they gonna hear Brendan Donovan and Nolan Gorman.
Speaker 1: Like Trader like in theory whatever this list would look like.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Cardinals and the Mariners and Pirates deserve each
Speaker 1: other do something.
Speaker 2: Kind of need to do something.
Speaker 1: Do something. The Mets in Red Sox would be together
Speaker 1: as like good off season, finish it, Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be okay, and then these guys are do something. Cardinals
Speaker 1: talking about you know, Donovan Burlson in there said somebody
Speaker 1: else like you're guys that like it sounded like a
Speaker 1: early guy sound. It sounded like their arbitration process is
Speaker 1: going not the most smooth, which seem like they're heading
Speaker 1: towards extensions with those guys or just that would have
Speaker 1: counted as doing something right like lock those up and
Speaker 1: there's time for that, But usually the precursor for that
Speaker 1: is like, well the yard process went well a lot
Speaker 1: of times, that's a sign of the extensions coming. And
Speaker 1: oh they're not doing that.
Speaker 2: They're not seeming like they're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, them, them, and so they kind of need to
Speaker 1: do something. Them Pittsburgh and the Mariners are literally just like.
Speaker 2: Figure out what you do.
Speaker 1: It's like a mystery box that you're shaking, like what's
Speaker 1: in here? What's the fine?
Speaker 2: What is you guys should be doing something.
Speaker 1: The final team a team that leaves me oddly smitten
Speaker 1: from time to time. The Washington Nationals. I like Nathaniel Lowe,
Speaker 1: Josh Bell a little low, low risk, low reward for me,
Speaker 1: would have liked some of the little juice here there
Speaker 1: Soroca Trevor Williams. Okay, okay, again, their expectation this year
Speaker 1: still hasn't happened, so they could be done. Do my
Speaker 1: hands look massive right now?
Speaker 2: A big hand thing?
Speaker 1: Though? Should I start holding my hands like this? Just
Speaker 1: do that? Looks like they're the size of my whole body.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a little body thing. Now I'll go
Speaker 1: little hands. That's not comment which kind of hands you like?
Speaker 1: Such on YouTube subscribe at the end of that exercise.
Speaker 1: In the American League, Boston, Houston, Seattle's in the shakem Bucket, Toronto.
Speaker 1: Th I think those are the three. If we're doing stuff,
Speaker 1: which we are clearly doing, we have to do even
Speaker 1: one more thing, just one more thing, and that loop
Speaker 1: feels closed. In the National League, Atlanta, but they kind
Speaker 1: of don't. They've proven though they can address their needs
Speaker 1: during the season if they need to. But Atlanta is
Speaker 1: the one I feel the least confident in, and I
Speaker 1: just kind of had a presidential thumb come out. The
Speaker 1: Mets are very much Boston Houston, and they kind of
Speaker 1: shouldn't be listed with Toronto, but in this exercise they
Speaker 1: kind of are. And then yeah, and then there's just
Speaker 1: the junk pile of Pittsburgh, Saint Louis and Seattle.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Lanta in a weird spot with like who
Speaker 2: has to do something kind of Dodgers have also just
Speaker 2: kind of sent everyone running.
Speaker 1: Is Pete Alonso gonna sign with one of the teams
Speaker 1: in the need to do something bucket? Probably right or
Speaker 1: in the weird bucket that's Blue Jays. I mean, people
Speaker 1: are making up Mariners rumors because they should do that.
Speaker 1: There's no actual Mariners rumors, And anytime you talk to
Speaker 1: a baseball person, they're like, what about Pete and the Mariners? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just have to do it, So okay, okay, the
Speaker 1: full bucket. Then I'll even bring in the odd ducts.
Speaker 1: If you gave me DraftKings lines on will pe Alonzo
Speaker 1: signed with one of those teams? I would say yes.
Speaker 1: Alex Bragman also yes, Jerkson Profar. There's just a San
Speaker 1: Diego outlier effect that I don't know what to do with.
Speaker 1: But if Jerkson Profar ends up on Toronto, I won't
Speaker 1: be shocked.
Speaker 2: Toronto Houston.
Speaker 1: Houston would be a fit like those are the two
Speaker 1: teams I like the most for him that aren't San Diego.
Speaker 1: Boston was supposedly ruined for him, and so was Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So if I was betting money, I know I'd be
Speaker 1: willing to lose that one. But yes, Hassan Kim, maybe
Speaker 1: that that whole thing's gotten a little weird, hasn't it.
Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty, I don't know, Jackson an interesting spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go to the Braves, Yeah they might. There was some
Speaker 1: rumors about that.
Speaker 3: I remember if there was some flurry around around a
Speaker 3: month ago.
Speaker 1: I feel like Favetta, I don't know, we're starting to
Speaker 1: get into a different area of free agents that with
Speaker 1: Pete and Bregman, and I guess, Profar, I guess if
Speaker 1: those teams don't fall in that bucket, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some different hmm, not different. I don't know, teams feeling
Speaker 1: in a weird spot. Bregman and Pete are Mets Toronto
Speaker 1: and Boston. Pete not Boston.
Speaker 2: Almost certainly not. Yeah, I feel like there's just a
Speaker 2: one percent psycho factor of.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, pirates get Pete.
Speaker 2: It seems.
Speaker 1: Not a rumor, not a single goddamn rumor.
Speaker 2: Give him an actual deal.
Speaker 1: Hey, I hope you guys kind of like that exercise
Speaker 1: because I do. And we're in the final steps. Is
Speaker 1: as relievers are starting to sign, there's like three impact
Speaker 1: hitters three and a half Hassan Kim, what's happened.
Speaker 2: That we are?
Speaker 1: We're kind of towards the end line. So let's see
Speaker 1: how that plays out and the rest of these days.
Speaker 1: Who gets it figured out before spring training? Who's gonna
Speaker 1: have the weird answering questions at spring training? I hope
Speaker 1: it's not my guy, Pete Pete to meat. Until then,
Speaker 1: there are three more football games, and two of them
Speaker 1: are this weekend. Let's talk about them semi high and tight.
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Speaker 1: January twenty sixth, the Washington Commanders, as everyone had are
Speaker 1: playing the Philadelphia Phillies in the ihladelph Philadelphia opens as
Speaker 1: six and a half point favorites. Buffalo is going to
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Kansas City is a two point favorite in arrowhead.
Speaker 1: The first game we talked about. Saw these teams play recently,
Speaker 1: and the Washingtonton Commanders came back in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with twenty two points to win the game. There was
Speaker 1: some jade and Daniels magic five touchdowns. On the other
Speaker 1: side of it, the Eagles had three turnovers, but so
Speaker 1: did the Commanders. Or no, the Commanders had five turnovers
Speaker 1: and the Eagles still didn't win that game. So I
Speaker 1: think both teams are looking at this like, Hey, the
Speaker 1: Eagles are saying, we didn't play our best game. Let's
Speaker 1: go get this. Canny Pickett had twenty four passes in
Speaker 1: this game, so that is something significantly different on their side.
Speaker 1: The Commanders, they're saying, let's not lose three fumbles and
Speaker 1: have two interceptions and we won that game. It's going
Speaker 1: to be fun. It's a pure test of the rise
Speaker 1: of Jaden Daniels and how special you think he is.
Speaker 1: And the Commanders have some things breaking out. They've had
Speaker 1: defensive pieces come back in their secondary. It seems like
Speaker 1: there's always a different guy in their front seven making
Speaker 1: play dan Quinn, depending which glasses you have on on
Speaker 1: a given day. We went through it a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty nice coaching history, except one game that
Speaker 1: somehow he gets blamed for more than the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: who gets called a genius a lot. Anyways, buckle up.
Speaker 1: I I've been on the Eagles for a while now.
Speaker 1: You guys listening to the football portion of Wake and
Speaker 1: Jake know that. I just think they could hand it
Speaker 1: off to saquon every play and they'd win the game.
Speaker 1: I legitimately think that, and I don't think it's crazy,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the wild part. I think it
Speaker 1: opens up big plays for Jalen Hurts. I think twenty
Speaker 1: is the amount of passes they want in a game,
Speaker 1: and they've been living in that area. You saw Hurts
Speaker 1: run for a forty yarder the other day. That. I
Speaker 1: just think when the Eagles want and they lock in
Speaker 1: and they focus, they can get every first down, they
Speaker 1: can score on every possession, and they just sometimes have
Speaker 1: these moments of laps not a great word, and everyone
Speaker 1: kind of looks at Sirianni and may that's a part
Speaker 1: of it, but also maybe it's part of this. We're
Speaker 1: gonna jam it down your throat and beat you with physicality.
Speaker 1: That has fueled him to be one of the winningest
Speaker 1: coaches in NFL history. And man, Saquan is that guy,
Speaker 1: and that offensive line are those guys and Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: as a running quarterback. Is that guy I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: pick against the Eagles. I think I think them having
Speaker 1: knowing in their head that this Commander's team can literally
Speaker 1: steal a game from them like they did last time.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, you know you're gonna get
Speaker 1: ultimate focus in a championship game anyways, but them having
Speaker 1: that to look back at knowing Jalen wasn't there. I'm
Speaker 1: on the Eagles and there's a reason that they're almost
Speaker 1: a touchdown favorite. I think America will be rooting Jaden
Speaker 1: just because rookie quarterback actually carrying the team. There are
Speaker 1: some fun stats that the the other rookie quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: make it this far. I think their teams were both
Speaker 1: top five and special teams and defense. The Commanders are not.
Speaker 1: So what Jaden has been doing is very special. It'll
Speaker 1: be fun to watch because with that target, with the
Speaker 1: Eagles d line, with the way they can run the ball,
Speaker 1: if Jayden and the Commanders and Cliff Kingsbury, if they
Speaker 1: can control it and get first downs and wait for
Speaker 1: them to make the mistake, very exciting. I'm still Iggles
Speaker 1: and the team that has been lurking there all year
Speaker 1: that nobody's known truly what to do with. Is the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs hosting the Buffalo Bills, and this is beautiful, man,
Speaker 1: the Bills who have been waiting for their shot at
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. This is the Bills at the peak of
Speaker 1: their powers that we've seen. Josh Allen is head to
Speaker 1: head with Lamar, who they just beat for the MVP Trophy.
Speaker 1: He has been on god mode all year competing with
Speaker 1: Lamar to be the and Joe Burrow, which everyone got
Speaker 1: in on late of playing the best quarterback in the
Speaker 1: NFL this year. Mahomes wasn't in that conversation. Statistically, they
Speaker 1: are heading to Kansas City and the Chiefs who keep
Speaker 1: winning these close games and it feels like every game
Speaker 1: is the same game and it's deja vu. And are
Speaker 1: the refs on their side? There's some statistics that say
Speaker 1: the refs aren't on their side. But last game had
Speaker 1: a couple tough moments. Mahomes trying to draw the flop
Speaker 1: that was really tough to see. It's like, come on, Pat,
Speaker 1: you can't be doing that. I'm okay, We're kind of
Speaker 1: okay with the refs half protecting you, you can't lean
Speaker 1: into it. If there's a year to do it. For
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, it's this year. If I didn't know,
Speaker 1: if you erased my memory and didn't tell me the
Speaker 1: Chiefs won the last two Super Bowls, I'd be picking
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think the way they've played this year,
Speaker 1: how beautiful their offense has been. Josh Allen can throw
Speaker 1: on the Superman Cape whenever they need otherwise, He's got
Speaker 1: options to go to. Cook's been really good. Their other
Speaker 1: running backs have been good. Kincaid knocks a Marii Cooper.
Speaker 1: They Mary Cooper hasn't even been a part of it.
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir Really, they just have a ton of different
Speaker 1: options that Alan can get it to whoever he needs
Speaker 1: to win to. For me, it's a game of can
Speaker 1: the Bills. Can the Chiefs keep up scoring with the Bills?
Speaker 1: Like the Bills are a high powered offense, I'll go
Speaker 1: down with the ship though. I love Andy Reid, I
Speaker 1: love Patrick Mahomes, I love Travis Kelce, I love Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: Spagnolo is going into the Hall of Fame as a
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Andy Reid's going in as a head coach.
Speaker 1: Pat's going in as a QB, Travis Kelsey going in
Speaker 1: as a tight end. They've gotten some reinforcements in their
Speaker 1: secondary Chris Jones and how devastating he is on the
Speaker 1: D line. And I just think going back to the
Speaker 1: Bills Ravens game last week, if that game was played
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, the Bills do not win. The Ravens would
Speaker 1: have won that game. If that game was in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Arrowhead's a nasty place to play. It's some of the
Speaker 1: worst weather like in the world, A little dramatic, sure,
Speaker 1: in the livable world. Arrowhead this time of year is
Speaker 1: a brutal game and a lot of those guys have
Speaker 1: played in that. That being said, the team in Buffalo
Speaker 1: has also dealt with elements. But how loud that place
Speaker 1: is going to be. And something that's stuck with me
Speaker 1: just a little bit was Tony Romo calling the Bills game,
Speaker 1: and he kept pointing out moments where the Bills audibled
Speaker 1: to different plays that they could do at home that
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be able to do on the road because
Speaker 1: of how loud and rowdy it is. Kansas City's got
Speaker 1: a huge home field advantage with the best quarterback to
Speaker 1: ever play, and a guy a head coach that's going
Speaker 1: to enter the realm of one of the best head
Speaker 1: coaches to ever coach. I've been walking around the office
Speaker 1: all week saying, I don't know who I want because
Speaker 1: I wanted to get convinced to the Buffalo Bills. I'm
Speaker 1: worried for them that they're playing the same guys. I
Speaker 1: won't go against them. I will go with the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs Eagles, which I've I'm not gonna take credit
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs because I flip flopped in the AFC
Speaker 1: a chunk this year. You guys know, I like the
Speaker 1: Ravens a little bit. But the whole time, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have been lurking, and they've lurked themselves to the spot
Speaker 1: where they lost one game where they were trying. It
Speaker 1: was to the Buffalo Bills though, so that obviously has
Speaker 1: such appeal to it. Alan Mahomes doing it again and
Speaker 1: we'll see whatever Super Bowl matchup is going to be
Speaker 1: great and the storylines are going to be the Just
Speaker 1: a reminder, Chiefs are going for a three peat and
Speaker 1: no NFL team's ever done that, So maybe that should
Speaker 1: be in the back of our heads just a little more.
Speaker 1: That's insane. And it's been a quiet Chief season kind of.
Speaker 2: Last year, like sneaky little too, a little bit outside
Speaker 2: of Kelsey Taylor Swift stuff. Last year's year. They're supposed
Speaker 2: to not not do it, and they did it.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl proposal, people are talking. Enjoy the football this weekend.
Speaker 1: We'll always see what baseball has to offer us, and
Speaker 1: we'll see it's almost that time. I feel like I
Speaker 1: watched a little NBA last night. College basketball is in
Speaker 1: a really weird spot. Not ready to talk about that. Hey,
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