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Speaker 1: move the sticks and Inside Report. Oh yeah, a little
Speaker 1: little two for one special crossover crossover today. Excited. It's
Speaker 1: great to be back with Buck and Ratt here in
Speaker 1: the studio. The draft is behind us and we need
Speaker 1: to dig into it, guys. So I think what we
Speaker 1: do today is we go, let's go through the whole
Speaker 1: first round. We'll alternate picks. This kind of our quick
Speaker 1: snapshot of what happened in round one. They're gonna pick
Speaker 1: a couple of our favorite drafts that we liked overall. Overall,
Speaker 1: I think we've got to talk about what went down
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks. Definitely, that's a discussion that needs to
Speaker 1: take place. But I figured, let's not let's not waste
Speaker 1: any time. Let's jump in. Let's go every other one.
Speaker 1: Here are the three of us. Why don't you start
Speaker 1: us off, Buck with the Jacks because you were in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville for the draft. Yeah, so did Jaguars take Trayvon Walker?
Speaker 1: I guess as expected. By the time we got to it.
Speaker 1: That was kind of the conversation. They went from being
Speaker 1: there four guys that did. It was down to Trayvon
Speaker 1: Walker a Hutchinson, Which one did you want? They elected
Speaker 1: to go with Trayvon Walker. And and being down in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: I thought the interesting thing coming out of the conversation
Speaker 1: wasn't the fact that he was a guy that was
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Swiss Army knife up front.
Speaker 1: He could play anywhere from knows all the way out wide.
Speaker 1: It was did they view him as an outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put him at one position in parking. They
Speaker 1: believe he can be heavy handed playing on the edge
Speaker 1: to be a solid run defender. They believe he can
Speaker 1: grow into being an effective pass rusher. And they just
Speaker 1: wanted someone who was powerful, who could get better by
Speaker 1: what they said is mastering one position as opposed to
Speaker 1: doing all the other stuff. Yeah, and and one little point,
Speaker 1: we'll move on to the second one. I kind of
Speaker 1: was mad at myself because when I was getting ready
Speaker 1: to the last couple of days for the start of
Speaker 1: the draft, and I don't know why, it just dawned
Speaker 1: on him there with that decision, which was those running
Speaker 1: backs you got in that division when you've got Therick
Speaker 1: Henry and Jonathan Taylor. I think maybe that gave a
Speaker 1: little bit of the edge to the more physically imposing,
Speaker 1: dominant run defender. Well, probably why we saw Devin Lloyd
Speaker 1: go You know, they loaded up, they rowed it up
Speaker 1: on defense, and they came back with Muma as well.
Speaker 1: Didn't completely reshape the second level of their defense. Absolutely. Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't take a tackle the entire draft. So all
Speaker 1: that talk about maybe Ikeya Kwanu being in play at
Speaker 1: one once the once the franchise tack Cam Robinson happened,
Speaker 1: and then once the extension happens, they're out. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll get to pick number two, Aidan Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: Not a surprise. They ran this thing up so fast
Speaker 1: it pick was in. It was like boom, all right, there,
Speaker 1: that's done. And there was some debate. I had heard
Speaker 1: a lot of chatter the day before, which was if
Speaker 1: there was if there was a situation where you had
Speaker 1: Ikey go one, because that had been floated around somehow.
Speaker 1: If Ikey went one. I think there was a little
Speaker 1: bit of a debate in Detroit about Walker versus Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: So I think we all just assume if Hutchinson's on,
Speaker 1: if he's there they run the par ticket, which they
Speaker 1: did in the card up, but it would have been
Speaker 1: fascinating we didn't get see. It would have been fascinating
Speaker 1: that he would have went one and they had that
Speaker 1: decision that that Jacks had what they would have done.
Speaker 1: I love Hutchinson to me, the best player in the draft.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect perfect fit. There couldn't get better. And
Speaker 1: he even dressed it like. He dressed like a villainy
Speaker 1: which I kind of like, and played it up. He
Speaker 1: had all the Jews scorn up on Stave. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: I love seeing, love the reaction with the family, all
Speaker 1: that number three Texans going Derek Stingley Jr. Look, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise, I think still based
Speaker 1: on how much we all like Sauce Gardner seeing Stingley
Speaker 1: go ahead of Sauce at the cornerback spot. But man,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Stingley being one of those risers.
Speaker 1: In the last two weeks his teams got more comfortable
Speaker 1: with his injury and his medical We know he's got
Speaker 1: the elite talent. We saw it in twenty nineteen, and uh,
Speaker 1: I was I was a little surprised that that's where
Speaker 1: Houston ended up going knowing they needed just about everything.
Speaker 1: But you know they've been searching for a corner for
Speaker 1: about the last I don't know, ten years since Jonathan
Speaker 1: Joseph left kind of kind of put some break from
Speaker 1: out there for us when he talked about we don't
Speaker 1: have the kind of corners that we need to play
Speaker 1: the style of defense that we want to play. What's
Speaker 1: interesting about the Derek Stingley pick over Sauce Gardner. I
Speaker 1: think we all would say that twenty nineteen Derek Stingley
Speaker 1: was anything and everything that you wanted. Five star player
Speaker 1: played like that, um I thought I found it fascinating
Speaker 1: that being able to go back to twenty nineteen because
Speaker 1: there was so much conversation and how three years they
Speaker 1: go back three years his freshman year. But seeing the
Speaker 1: one on one tapes going against Machase, I think that
Speaker 1: really helped Derek Stingley's case because you're seeing two guys
Speaker 1: that are dominating at the NFL level. We had a
Speaker 1: chance to go through the archives and he held own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how he held his own against those guys, and then
Speaker 1: you got sauce set for yeah. So Sauce for me
Speaker 1: was prototype long arms RANGI uh, perfect football character. In
Speaker 1: terms of New York, we know what that defense looks
Speaker 1: like when you have a premier corner on the edge.
Speaker 1: I think he's the right fit, and I think he
Speaker 1: has the right temperament and mentality to succeed in New
Speaker 1: York with all the expectations and all the other stuff
Speaker 1: that comes along with being as yet. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: think about that position group and what that looks like.
Speaker 1: You know last year, um what that group was. And
Speaker 1: now you bring in Dj Reid. So Dj Reid starts
Speaker 1: the off season as your as your most talented corner, right,
Speaker 1: you get him in Bryce Hall and then now of
Speaker 1: a sudden you had Sauce Gardner, and it just shuffles
Speaker 1: the line up, pushes the lineup down. And Baseball we
Speaker 1: always talking about want to deepen your lineup. That's how
Speaker 1: you do it. They deepen their lineup, man, and this
Speaker 1: is I think he's got a chance to be a
Speaker 1: true number one corner. It's just well, we walked up
Speaker 1: right by him before the draft and you guys saw
Speaker 1: him and Andy he is so tall and so long,
Speaker 1: like there's a presence to him. There's something to be
Speaker 1: said when the Jets would get off the bus last year.
Speaker 1: It's a small team. It's a little team. And now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you look at what they've done,
Speaker 1: and we'll get through the rest of their picks. Here.
Speaker 1: They got bigger, They got bigger, and I think that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting little subplot there to what they accomplished.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's really interesting being able to
Speaker 1: have him on the on the edge and do something.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get the number five here the Giants.
Speaker 1: This one, to me was a little bit of a surprise.
Speaker 1: I did not think they would go Thibodau. They went
Speaker 1: Tibodaut five five. I think the way it fell, and
Speaker 1: we talked about it a lot. I'm sure I was
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. Once they had all the tackles
Speaker 1: on the board, it made it easier for them to say,
Speaker 1: we'll hold off on the tackle. We're gonna get one
Speaker 1: at seven, because you know, buttally and if some reason,
Speaker 1: if Carolina would shock us or Carolina would trade, then
Speaker 1: we could we might lose Thibodeau. So if that Tibodeau
Speaker 1: is your guy, you take him there at five, which
Speaker 1: they did. Um gives him, you know, gives him some juice.
Speaker 1: Gives him a fastball off the edge. It'll be a
Speaker 1: good young combination with him. Last year, Azizo Gilari kind
Speaker 1: of quietly had eight sacks as a rookie here. And
Speaker 1: to me, when you when you're a team that stinks
Speaker 1: and you get close to ten sacks with the limited
Speaker 1: pass fresh opportunity because you don't get to play with
Speaker 1: the lead um, that means he's a double digit sack
Speaker 1: player if they get their team going. And I think
Speaker 1: you can't underestimate the coach. Wing Martindale has dealt with
Speaker 1: big personalities. I don't think Cavon Tibodeau's personality and that
Speaker 1: stuff would bother him because he had to deal with
Speaker 1: Sizzle and Manin and some of the other guys on
Speaker 1: this team. I think it works. So then we get
Speaker 1: to number six, and I just didn't think in all
Speaker 1: the scenarios that the Panthers would have a pick of
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle class there at six, we go straight,
Speaker 1: they might get wiped out exactly exactly, and we go
Speaker 1: defense one through five, which you know is something that
Speaker 1: that's certainly you know, obviously did happen. I don't know
Speaker 1: we thought could have happened. So the fact that the
Speaker 1: Panthers were able to get the guy who they viewed
Speaker 1: as the best tackle in this class, guy who we
Speaker 1: all kind of viewed as the best tackle in this
Speaker 1: class too. I mean it just that was another slam
Speaker 1: dunk there once we felt like they weren't going to
Speaker 1: quarterback now that was where they were going. No, no mystery.
Speaker 1: So six with the quantumne nice seven Evan Hill. Evan Hill.
Speaker 1: I believe he was the guy that the Giants wanted
Speaker 1: all the way because you have Ryan day Ball in
Speaker 1: the relationship with Alabama kind of annoying exactly what you're
Speaker 1: getting because he can make those phone calls and Nick
Speaker 1: Saban and kind of figure out what is the best
Speaker 1: way to go about uh your business. With Evan Neil,
Speaker 1: it's a great fit. You put him on the right
Speaker 1: tackle you have Thomas I think. Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: I was we talked about this on path. Never all
Speaker 1: that stuff got out about them having Charles Crosses as
Speaker 1: their number one tackle made no sense to me, Like,
Speaker 1: there's no way they've gotta left tackle Charles cross I
Speaker 1: believe the left tackle only Why the world would you
Speaker 1: go draft when you got this young left tackle was
Speaker 1: played well last year and Andrew Thomas. To me, Evan
Speaker 1: Neil was always always that guy. Think about the the
Speaker 1: way that they paired things up here young pairings now
Speaker 1: with Olari and Thibodeaux and now Thomas and Neil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's good bookends on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: all right. Eight was the Falcons. They go with Drake London,
Speaker 1: so the first receiver off the board. We had talked
Speaker 1: about this twin Towers. Now we talked to us forever.
Speaker 1: They're gonna play tall ball with Kyle Pitts. The question
Speaker 1: was pass rusher, which you had a pass rusher in
Speaker 1: Jamaine Johnson. There team I think eighteen sacks last year,
Speaker 1: and I think they lost like six or eight of
Speaker 1: them in the off season. So man, they've got to
Speaker 1: address the pass rush. Maybe they would do pass rush,
Speaker 1: but I think at the end of the day that
Speaker 1: to me, this is what this looks like. To me,
Speaker 1: they're kind of building this team, and whether or not
Speaker 1: it's for Ritter, you know, we'll see where they got Ridder.
Speaker 1: He'll get an opportunity to be that guy of the future.
Speaker 1: If not, they're trying to build the foundation here for
Speaker 1: maybe the quarterback next year. Um and give them some
Speaker 1: weapons with with London and Pitts a good nation. It's
Speaker 1: a really good combination. Talk about being able to play
Speaker 1: that big boy ball on the perimeter. Uh, London certain
Speaker 1: help send in the red zone. Seahawks at nine when
Speaker 1: Charles Cross, and this is one of those situations where
Speaker 1: like we view philosophically Seattle as a ground and pound
Speaker 1: type of team generally right and Cross the guy with
Speaker 1: the most pass blocking reps of any tackle in this class,
Speaker 1: coming from the mic Leach system, and you're like, okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: they got too mich Mike Leach offensive for him. Kas
Speaker 1: to write later, but so it's not that he can't
Speaker 1: be a dominant run blocker. We just have Yeah, so
Speaker 1: maybe that's they they they view Charles is having that
Speaker 1: kind of potential. Anyway, as we get back to the
Speaker 1: Jets now at ten. So Garrett Wilson at ten, and
Speaker 1: you know, there was some conversation I think DJ you
Speaker 1: talked about Garrett Wilson maybe going to them at four
Speaker 1: because they wanted the playmaker. I put it, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: And so now you get him at ten, you got
Speaker 1: a guy to pair with. Uh. You know, I'm more
Speaker 1: on the outside, they can throw it all over the yard.
Speaker 1: They're better up front. They're just a nice fit to
Speaker 1: me for them to come out with that daily double,
Speaker 1: with what they got with Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1: The think about any he's gonna be great a training camp,
Speaker 1: and you think about what that receiving corps looked like
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and look at what it
Speaker 1: looks like now. And again now Corey Davis gets slotted differently.
Speaker 1: Now you look at him differently. Still got Burrios, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got Burrios. MEM's I've been told has been off
Speaker 1: the charts in the offseason. Stuff. Buck this guy, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. I think everybodys kind of forgot they
Speaker 1: can go five. They go five deep at wide out
Speaker 1: and they're gonna What they're doing too, is they're baking in.
Speaker 1: Think about the tight ends, right c j Uzama Conklin.
Speaker 1: They ended up getting Ruckert in this draft. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have so many easy completions baked in. You talk about
Speaker 1: the Shanahan scheme all the time, Buck, like you start
Speaker 1: the game, but you should start the game with seven
Speaker 1: eight completions, just off, just off, bubbles and quicks and
Speaker 1: boots and just making it easy for Zack Wilson. So
Speaker 1: I think that's the plan there, all right, I'm up
Speaker 1: with Crystal lave. So we go back to back Ohio
Speaker 1: State wide outs. The Saints move up for a Lava.
Speaker 1: I had talked to a general manager, a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in general manager, a couple of days before the draft
Speaker 1: that he was not buying this business with the Saints
Speaker 1: not taking a back. I said, what everybody's told me,
Speaker 1: they're not taking a quarterback. They think they're close. They
Speaker 1: want a couple of good players. And he goes, how
Speaker 1: in the world do you trade a future one in
Speaker 1: a future two and you're gonna come away with the
Speaker 1: receiver and a tackle? Like he thought, that just doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. And that's what they did.
Speaker 1: We thought, it's exactly what they did. They feel like
Speaker 1: they're close, and they started to see that run on
Speaker 1: whiteouts and they're like, we're not sitting back here and
Speaker 1: letting this uh fall to us, because it's not going
Speaker 1: to fall to us. So they went up and got
Speaker 1: Crystal LoVa. Crystal LoVa was the guy that I thought.
Speaker 1: It was the perfect compliment to my certain they love
Speaker 1: and they love Ohio State. Nobody loves Ohio State last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole secondary used to Yeah, every Marshawn Latimore,
Speaker 1: the whole deal. Yeah. So anyways, what do you got next?
Speaker 1: All right? Next up, I've got the Detroit Lions, who
Speaker 1: made the biggest move up in the first round, moving
Speaker 1: up twenty picks thirty two to twelve, trading with Washington
Speaker 1: to get the wide receiver out of Alabama Jameson Williams,
Speaker 1: the third straight wide receiver with Columbus Ohio connections there,
Speaker 1: which is kind of be honest, Be honest, um, because
Speaker 1: I was on the spot when this trade happened. Was
Speaker 1: there any part of your being that thought that was
Speaker 1: for James that happened? Not a single I thought it
Speaker 1: was Jermaine Johnson or the quarterback or or was you
Speaker 1: know they had coached Milick Willis. There was all that
Speaker 1: rumor and buzz like maybe they take Milik Willis the
Speaker 1: second pick, where none of us were really buying that.
Speaker 1: But I was told that morning that they were calling
Speaker 1: up to multiple teams inside the top ten. So I
Speaker 1: had even said, like it's gotta be a quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: Like what you're gonna come from that portion of the
Speaker 1: draft all the way back up. It's gotta be a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And first of all, they didn't have to give up
Speaker 1: party anything. They came way short on the points. When
Speaker 1: you put in that trade, I thought they would have
Speaker 1: to be a future two or a future one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they swapped twos and then got a five. It was
Speaker 1: like nothing. So yeah, that's a that's a big move.
Speaker 1: So good kudos to Detroit to pull that. Alms did
Speaker 1: a nice job. And I just got a weapon wide
Speaker 1: receiver just wasn't in the register with me. We didn't
Speaker 1: think they would take it to too obviously, and they're
Speaker 1: thirty two, You're like, oh, they're all gonna be gone
Speaker 1: at once again credit to the head coach of being transparent.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't believe we need an elite quarterback
Speaker 1: to be able to get it done. And so he
Speaker 1: told us that there you hit us up right. Egos.
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis another one. You know, we go all the
Speaker 1: way back. We talked about the Eagles and what the
Speaker 1: egos like to invest in upfront guys who helps to nail.
Speaker 1: So you get Jordan Davis, who looked size wise, you
Speaker 1: can think about putting him either beside Fletcher Cox or
Speaker 1: if his lever pacing Flessher Cox. It was a good
Speaker 1: move for me. Athletic can do everything you want to
Speaker 1: see it front and I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people forget about Javon Hargrave. John Hargrave was the best
Speaker 1: interior rusher, like he can really rush and I know
Speaker 1: the number, the sack numbers aren't incredible, but this is
Speaker 1: somebody that can rush inside. He's got ability. So combine
Speaker 1: him with Jordan Davis, you get to learn from big
Speaker 1: fletch Um. And I thought it was ten years I
Speaker 1: believe we said it on there. I think it was
Speaker 1: ten years ago. I was in Philly for that draft.
Speaker 1: Traded up a few spots for Fletcher Fletcher and they
Speaker 1: did the same thing here with Jordan Davis. By the way,
Speaker 1: first of many times teams got ahead of the Ravens
Speaker 1: because as Ravens have profiles for players like we talked
Speaker 1: about Jordan Davis. If he's there, which gets me to fourteen,
Speaker 1: and that's Kyle Hamilton's and I think there is a
Speaker 1: good chance Kyle Hampton would have been the pick even
Speaker 1: if Jordan Davis were there. I think the grades are
Speaker 1: very high on Kyle Hamilton's this offseason. Yeah no, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing, and now they spent They've always invested
Speaker 1: in safety, they've always believed in it. Why the rest
Speaker 1: of the league says it's not an important position, They
Speaker 1: say the opposite You've got Chuck Clark now can drop
Speaker 1: down and play low. You've got those two guys that
Speaker 1: can play high. So the importance and this is kind
Speaker 1: of a longer discussion, which we'll have a chance to
Speaker 1: get into more in the off season, which we love
Speaker 1: to do on this pod. But if you are going
Speaker 1: to be playing light boxes like the league has has
Speaker 1: really gone to to try and limit explosives and big plays,
Speaker 1: you need safeties that can that can flat footed, read,
Speaker 1: drive and tackle. So now you are in a situation
Speaker 1: with with Kyle Hamilton's that can help you play. You
Speaker 1: can play coverage, but he can still come down and
Speaker 1: fill and do everything you want to do from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: From depth, they talked about three safety looked he could
Speaker 1: be Yeah, and he can do all that stuff. It's
Speaker 1: a big dude, six foot four two or fifteen pounds.
Speaker 1: Let's move to number fifteen, where the Houston Texans after
Speaker 1: the trade with the Eagles, moved back to spots, and
Speaker 1: they get a guy that we had kind of talked
Speaker 1: about is maybe sliding out of the first round due
Speaker 1: to some injury concerns. Kenyan Green, the offensive guard slash
Speaker 1: four positions, but it feels like they're gonna move. They're
Speaker 1: gonna kick Titus Howard back out to right, leave him
Speaker 1: the right tackle and maybe, like Kenyan Green, slip in
Speaker 1: there at one of the guard spots. I dropped him
Speaker 1: a few spots at the very end of the process
Speaker 1: because some concerns that I was related to me about
Speaker 1: his knee. So, but if you're talking about just ability,
Speaker 1: the interior is always unless he was he's kind of
Speaker 1: the guys pounds or whatever he is. He's just a bigger,
Speaker 1: bigger dude who can really move and do a lot
Speaker 1: of things. So um, again, everybody's medical staff is different.
Speaker 1: They're comfortable with it, and I hope it's right. He's
Speaker 1: a great player, really a player. So another good player.
Speaker 1: How about a Washton Commanders and Johan Dotson coming over.
Speaker 1: They have desperately needed someone to go opposite Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 1: Then you get a speed player, a guy who wants
Speaker 1: to riff with the ball in his hands, and as
Speaker 1: we think of out this offense, trying to bake in
Speaker 1: some easy completions for Carson Wentz. You have someone who
Speaker 1: can do something with the ball in his hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pair him up there with Terry McLaurin, and you've just
Speaker 1: given some more some more targets for Carson Wentz there
Speaker 1: at sixteen seventeen. Zion Johnson to the Chargers. You know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be surprised by this,
Speaker 1: just because Penning was there. You'd say, okay, you take Penning,
Speaker 1: you put him at right tackle. You've got your bookends.
Speaker 1: You're rocking and rolling with two young tackles going forward.
Speaker 1: But in talking to those guys the couple of days
Speaker 1: before the draft, they had talked about the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, we want to get the best offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and we gotta get the best offensive linemen. We're gonna
Speaker 1: put him in there and go what They were not
Speaker 1: concerned with either it's a guard or a tackle. They
Speaker 1: feel like they have some versatility there. I know Storm
Speaker 1: Norton had his struggles last year at right tackle, but
Speaker 1: there were a few games last year where Trey Pipkins
Speaker 1: got in there and they thought he had taken major steps.
Speaker 1: I think they're comfortable with the fact Trey Pipkins could
Speaker 1: be their right tackle next year. The light sometimes comes
Speaker 1: on a little bit later for guys small school player,
Speaker 1: But I would be surprised if that's their lineup with
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson at right guard and then right tackle ings
Speaker 1: up being Trey Pipkins when it's all said and done.
Speaker 1: So Zion Johnson rock solid, smart, tough. I mean, from
Speaker 1: them right guard to left tackle is as good as
Speaker 1: any in the league. Right from what the offensive line
Speaker 1: looked like. Yeah, so you get Corey Lindsley Filer rashauns Later,
Speaker 1: that's it's good. They just gotta figure out what to
Speaker 1: do it right tackle alright. So that brings me back
Speaker 1: here at number eighteen, which got a little crazy with
Speaker 1: trade as Philadelphia acquired A. J. Brown from the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans for the eighteenth overall pick, and then at eighteen
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans take our trailing Burk's comp or take a J.
Speaker 1: Brown's don't even started. I gotta tell Bucky this story.
Speaker 1: So here we go. Let's go inside the draft. We
Speaker 1: are we We've got the trade. The Philadelphia Eagles acquire
Speaker 1: a J. Brown. We're gonna break down a J. Brown
Speaker 1: bing bang, boom, and then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: Titans are on the clock. The Titans take Trailing Burk's.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a dream, this is my cop.
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't get any better than this. Trailing Barks
Speaker 1: is gonna replace A J. Brown. So I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1: I've got the Eagles, I've got the Titans, I got
Speaker 1: a J. Brown. Trailing Burk's roll the highlights, all right,
Speaker 1: Trailing Burks highlights are rolling. I'm talking about Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: is going to be throwing the ball to Trailan Burks
Speaker 1: and Nick Sirianni is gonna know what to do with
Speaker 1: Trailer Burks. Hey, dummy, you know that Burks is on
Speaker 1: the Titans. A J. Brown is on the Eagles. And
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. So I finished. I finished, finished the breakdown.
Speaker 1: Usually I finished the breakdown. I look at C D
Speaker 1: and he's just he's ready to roll. And see he's
Speaker 1: looking at like this and I and it hits me like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's that's that's that's not right. Yeah. J.
Speaker 1: Brown is with the Eagles and then the ship's sail
Speaker 1: the way it was over. Keth Brown then gets straight
Speaker 1: and it was like it was my head was swimming.
Speaker 1: So you guys know me the whole rest of the
Speaker 1: draft of what's wrong with you? Yeah, that was inside
Speaker 1: the draft there. But I love it. I love I
Speaker 1: love now that you've got the Titans have trailing Burk's
Speaker 1: and then they've got Robert Woods and you know, nice
Speaker 1: little set up there for for Ryan Tanner. And the
Speaker 1: thing that this is what's so cool about the draft
Speaker 1: is we scrimmage this stuff. We talked this all the time,
Speaker 1: but we scrimmage this stuff and then it happens, and
Speaker 1: so you're like, you know, we talked about this. Where
Speaker 1: he was picked, it's like a three and a half
Speaker 1: a million dollar a year salary. Yeah, yeah, which I
Speaker 1: think when you when you add that extra year, I
Speaker 1: think two whatever whatever you ended up getting, like, that's
Speaker 1: a massive value. It's a massive savings. Yeah, we'll have
Speaker 1: to talk about us in a later thing. I don't
Speaker 1: think they could pay a J. Brown that kind of
Speaker 1: money When you have Derrick Henry making like half of that,
Speaker 1: I think it obsets the applecart when everyone in the
Speaker 1: building knows that Derrick Kenry is the engine that makes
Speaker 1: that offense go. Interesting interesting subplot are eighteen and Trevor nineteen,
Speaker 1: Trevor Pinning going to the Saints. So they did it.
Speaker 1: They would get the big play receiver. They were able
Speaker 1: to make sure they replaced Tearyan Armstead. They get Trevor
Speaker 1: Pinning to go in that spot. They were able to
Speaker 1: get the gather they wanted right at the spot that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we thought Pinning would get there,
Speaker 1: we thought he would be in range seventeen could have been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it we're it worked for the Saints. They were
Speaker 1: upgraded squad and yeah, just quickly. Um. I don't know
Speaker 1: how this worked out on on the red lowis mock draft,
Speaker 1: but I do. I do want to say that our
Speaker 1: old colleague Shanika Dabny hen Or Sin who's down with
Speaker 1: the Saints now, asked me to do a little mock
Speaker 1: for the Saints picks in the first three rounds. Just
Speaker 1: want to say that that's the official record because that
Speaker 1: was the Lava and Penning come on, both got them both.
Speaker 1: So just put that into the old CHI might have
Speaker 1: to send us a send us a Twitter a text
Speaker 1: let us know if that's justin purifications, but you're you're
Speaker 1: back with Kenny I think here all right, yep, So
Speaker 1: Steelers Kenny Pickett. Um, this is kind of what we
Speaker 1: had heard. Uh, we talked about that they seemed to
Speaker 1: be leaning in that direction maybe a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: before the draft. It's kind of while we were talking
Speaker 1: about Pickett with the Steelers, and it was fascinating to
Speaker 1: have coach Tomlin on because sometimes we use the terminology
Speaker 1: and we talk in certain ways and and then you'll
Speaker 1: hear the explanation from the team side. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: little different. This was literally the exact He used the
Speaker 1: word floor. He said, we loved Kenny Pickett's floor, and
Speaker 1: we had we had framed this decision as floor ceiling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is the floor quarterback and that's not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: especially when you feel good about the rest of your roster. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think he's got a good
Speaker 1: chance to be starting. We asked him, is he going
Speaker 1: to be in the competitions? Oh yeah, competition to start
Speaker 1: and once Drubisky to Risky sign. Initially we we talked about, well,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe true bistic and then we saw the
Speaker 1: contract members go nope, let's backup contract. That's not starting
Speaker 1: contract correct, exactly right. So that brings us to twenty
Speaker 1: one with the Kansas City Chiefs, who moved up to
Speaker 1: this spot in a trade with the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: and they end up getting you know, arguably the most
Speaker 1: fundamentally sound corner in this draft and Trim mcduffee. And
Speaker 1: I remember when they were sitting back there at twenty
Speaker 1: nine and thirty, I was like, man, they really need
Speaker 1: a corner. You just don't know if there's gonna be
Speaker 1: one there that fits the value. And they end up
Speaker 1: going up and getting the third best corner in this
Speaker 1: class and Trim mcduffee great fit. Going back, I talked
Speaker 1: to Veach before the draft and I said, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you've got the ammunition. If you want to go all
Speaker 1: the way up, you can go up. And he's like,
Speaker 1: yah no, he said, we got some things we need
Speaker 1: to get done. You know, I think they wanted the
Speaker 1: picks they ended up doing it, especially defensively. Yeah, defensively,
Speaker 1: they really upgraded. This guy is terrific. He'll allowed them
Speaker 1: to play the kind of defense they want to play
Speaker 1: on the outside of the Spags his defense and a
Speaker 1: little less risky than Marcus Peters is in the way,
Speaker 1: same school, different players, the same school, different place. So
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers quay Walker, this to me was
Speaker 1: all about the types, the traits, the prototype. They wanted
Speaker 1: a big, physical linebacker. Even though people talked about n
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean was the guy that was the tone setter.
Speaker 1: They're quay Walker is the one that you looked at.
Speaker 1: It was like, that is what an NFL linebacker should
Speaker 1: look like, sideline to sideline chaser. You put them on
Speaker 1: the field aside Andre Campbell, and when you think about
Speaker 1: this Packers defense, quietly, they've kind of carried the water
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years in Green Bay. That
Speaker 1: should continue with these young guys coming to love that
Speaker 1: no receiver pick. You love that all six wine outs
Speaker 1: were gone by a team you love didn't. But to me,
Speaker 1: to me, it was the smart thing that it was
Speaker 1: because the gap between the players kind available and the
Speaker 1: next best receiver was tremendous. So um and they ended
Speaker 1: up doing all right in the in the white out department,
Speaker 1: all right. Next up, Buffalo ends up trading up Uh
Speaker 1: and they end up taking Kyer Elam. I had Kyer
Speaker 1: Elam going to the Chargers in the mock draft, and
Speaker 1: this is one of those guys that I liked him.
Speaker 1: I didn't love him on the tape um there, so
Speaker 1: I thought it was just a little too much separation
Speaker 1: at times. But height, weight, speed, toughness, all that stuff
Speaker 1: checks out, um, But there was just some stuff I
Speaker 1: thought we had to work back downhill. You saw a
Speaker 1: little bit separation. Uh, some tackling was a little bit inconsistent,
Speaker 1: not for lack of one to but when I talked
Speaker 1: to made calls kind of the week of and uh,
Speaker 1: it was the teams were much higher term. And when
Speaker 1: you see the video they released of his interview with
Speaker 1: the team sitting in there and you see his notes
Speaker 1: that he had kept and how much of a kind
Speaker 1: of a pro he already was, I'm like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: the missing pace we didn't have. As this guy seems
Speaker 1: like he's dialed in so much more value in getting
Speaker 1: that piece that they needed opposite turd Avious White. And
Speaker 1: you know, depending on where White it's gonna probably I
Speaker 1: might not be ready for the start of the season. There.
Speaker 1: You had they had to have a corner as opposed
Speaker 1: to they're okay at running back right now because that
Speaker 1: we had talked about Breese Hall. Maybe there. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: also if it's gont of the profile you think about
Speaker 1: the picks at the Buffalo Bills have, they all have
Speaker 1: these guys that are like blue collar, working like guys
Speaker 1: that are professional, a total pro. And that's and that's
Speaker 1: one of those reasons why I think he was my
Speaker 1: I think I had him in the early forties on
Speaker 1: my top fifty list, and I feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 1: Off the tape when you hear him speak and you
Speaker 1: hear how he's wired, and like, Okay, I get it,
Speaker 1: I get it. Why he uh while he was more
Speaker 1: loved around the league. Let's move to Tyler Smith at
Speaker 1: number twenty four to the Dallas Cowboys. They needed offensive
Speaker 1: lineman help and and Tyler gives him. I think they
Speaker 1: announced him as a tackle. Yeah, he's gonna play this,
Speaker 1: gonna play tackle there. So he'll jump in where Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins left in free agency to go to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: And so Tyler Smith will fill in their right tackle.
Speaker 1: And look, you're starting to rebuild that offensive line, rebuild
Speaker 1: that you know that prestige that you had, you know
Speaker 1: about five to seven years ago. It's the best offensive
Speaker 1: line football, no doubt. All right, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: So let's go twenty five. The Baltimore Ravens. We had
Speaker 1: talked about the Ravens did not have anybody who can snap,
Speaker 1: so they had to get it. We're worried about Tyler
Speaker 1: Linden moallm in terms of size. But I think the
Speaker 1: thing they really impacted the success that they had with
Speaker 1: Marcia Yonda. I think influenced him because another hour problem.
Speaker 1: And they love Kirk parents. They have a great relationship,
Speaker 1: and they just they just believe in what Iowa produces.
Speaker 1: And based on how those guys have played the league
Speaker 1: est me, I understand body made a pick, no doubt. Um,
Speaker 1: and you think about you know, just their their profile.
Speaker 1: He doesn't fit from the size and we had talked
Speaker 1: about that, but temperament wise, like Lindar bombs a bully,
Speaker 1: like that's how he plays, and that's what what Baltimore loves.
Speaker 1: By the way, they did go enormous. Another one of
Speaker 1: the weird cops, Daniel Filele, was in Orlando Brown Junior
Speaker 1: comp And then all right, so next I am up
Speaker 1: with twenty six, and this is the Jets trading back
Speaker 1: in for Jermaine Johnson. I've got no answer because I
Speaker 1: know if you've listened to us, the question that you're
Speaker 1: thinking is how God's Green Earth is Jermaine Johnson available
Speaker 1: at I've got no answer. And I've talked to multiple GMS,
Speaker 1: talked to buddies around the league. Is there what am
Speaker 1: I missing? It? Was this guy done? No, no, he
Speaker 1: just teams. Teams had wide receiver needs and offensive line needs.
Speaker 1: We saw six wide receivers go. I think we had
Speaker 1: nine offensive lineman go in the first round. So teams
Speaker 1: were need focused and they went. We had those three
Speaker 1: addressers go early, and there was the gap. But to me,
Speaker 1: this was the clearly easily the biggest How you pick
Speaker 1: of the first round and I think it's my ninth
Speaker 1: overall player. They got twenty six, so you're plus seventeen
Speaker 1: on that big gosh, and you go look at this
Speaker 1: this Jets d line. Guys. Now, when you had Karl Lawson,
Speaker 1: who did not play at all last he's coming down
Speaker 1: that free agent contract, so he's coming back into that mix.
Speaker 1: And now now again we talked about reshuffling the lineup
Speaker 1: and in lengthening out your lineup. Now you've got Quentin Williams,
Speaker 1: you've got Sheldon Rankins, you've got lost and you've got
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson. You can roll through John Franklin Myers who
Speaker 1: can move up and down the line of scrimmage. They
Speaker 1: drafted Michael Clemens. Later they brought back Vinny Curry and
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, he'll have a spot roll there.
Speaker 1: They've kind of that's a dude. They got dudes upfront.
Speaker 1: Good group for sure, and then Jacksonville trades back up.
Speaker 1: So we had two trades back into the back end
Speaker 1: of the first round from teams that didn't have any
Speaker 1: more picks in the first round. So it was the
Speaker 1: Jets there with Johnson. Now the Jaguars do it with
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. So obviously he took Trayvon Walker at one.
Speaker 1: They come back up. Remember they lost Miles Jack in
Speaker 1: free agency, right, so he went to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: So you know that that second level of their defense,
Speaker 1: you know, they needed to figure out. And they get
Speaker 1: the best linebacker you know in the draft. I think
Speaker 1: you know, at least in my opinion, they're coming from
Speaker 1: Utah and now they get some length back there in
Speaker 1: the second level, guy that can make plays really all
Speaker 1: over the place. He can rush the pass for a
Speaker 1: little bit, he forces fumbles, he can pick passes off,
Speaker 1: and he's attackled by the way and off the ball linebackers.
Speaker 1: And we can say, oh, it hasn't been valued as much,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why some of these guys have gone down.
Speaker 1: It's valued in Jacksonville. I mean when they when they
Speaker 1: go out and pay Al Khan, they go out, they
Speaker 1: draft devn Lloyd in the third round. They Chad Boma,
Speaker 1: who's a great player who we all love. They think
Speaker 1: it's important there at the second level. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: also we talked about building your team to win a division.
Speaker 1: You talked about a running back Jonathan Taylor, Deryck Kenry
Speaker 1: being able to have to deal with those guys. You
Speaker 1: gotta have big buddies all around the front seven to
Speaker 1: be able to get that done. All right, Who you
Speaker 1: got DeVante Wyatt going to Green Bay Pack There's another
Speaker 1: interior piece and teammates. The Packers have done this over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. I want to get teammates.
Speaker 1: But when they drafted Kenny Clark years ago, You're like, man,
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark didn't need someone on the inside. They can
Speaker 1: do it, and so you look inside, they just get
Speaker 1: another athletic piece, another guy they can play at the
Speaker 1: point of attack. I think they only heavily on their
Speaker 1: defense while this offense is still trying to find their
Speaker 1: identity with Hare and Roger. Well, this was strange or
Speaker 1: was it? Or was it? You know, we talked about
Speaker 1: as soon as we heard the Cole Strange you tea
Speaker 1: chat new golfensive lineman going to New England Patriots at
Speaker 1: twenty nine. You're like, okay, here comes Logan Mankins again, right,
Speaker 1: But it kind of was a little bit off the
Speaker 1: radars and Fresno State offensive lineman. They ended up taking
Speaker 1: him and ended up being one of the best guards
Speaker 1: in football for a long time. Certainly hoping that's what
Speaker 1: they can do with Cole Strange here. You know, who
Speaker 1: fits fills a void If they sent Shack Mason off
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Bucks and look there you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's strange because we didn't have
Speaker 1: him going in the first round. But it fits with
Speaker 1: the Patriots do because they're always a little bit different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So let me, I want to jump in on this
Speaker 1: one here. So Cole Strange, he was my seventy four player. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now I want you to then unpack the rest
Speaker 1: of it. So you go, okay, seventy four player to
Speaker 1: pick what the heck are they doing? Right? Well, then
Speaker 1: let me explain this side of it. When when they
Speaker 1: were on the clock, the interior offensive line, we had
Speaker 1: a good sized runoff, so I had Cam Jurgens is
Speaker 1: my best available interior offensive lineman. Cole Strange was number two,
Speaker 1: so he was the second best available interior offense line
Speaker 1: in my in my opinion. So he said, okay, well
Speaker 1: they had just had him over Cam Jurgen's not not
Speaker 1: a big deal. Um. And then when you dig in,
Speaker 1: first of all, I talked to several teams that wanted
Speaker 1: we're targeting him early third round, which if teams are
Speaker 1: targeting somebody in the early third round, me, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna go in the second round because a lot of
Speaker 1: people like him and think he's a good player. So
Speaker 1: then we go, okay, well he's the second round player
Speaker 1: went in the first round. Not a big deal. Then
Speaker 1: when you look at the background, forty four starts which
Speaker 1: you love, considered considered all the service academies to go
Speaker 1: to school. He had the grades as an engineering major
Speaker 1: um and he plays with the bulldog mentality. We had
Speaker 1: talked about it after the Senior Bowl. He would get
Speaker 1: killed on a rep and he would come back and
Speaker 1: went a rep ultra ultra competitive. We did the Brian
Speaker 1: Baldinger comp with the face masks, the one bar down
Speaker 1: the middle. But I'm like, okay, so you've got a
Speaker 1: profile match with the Patriots. He's the second best available
Speaker 1: interior offensive line which they wanted to target and probably
Speaker 1: goes in the second round. So when you add all
Speaker 1: that stuff up together, I guess what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be all that strange that they take there.
Speaker 1: You go, yeah, I mean they did have a pick
Speaker 1: at fifty aft overall, maybe you know, maybe he was
Speaker 1: gone by then, and then you want to miss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you don't know. And that's what they say, And
Speaker 1: they say, look, our goal is to draft starting players,
Speaker 1: and if he's going to start for us, a good
Speaker 1: pick cares where he goes. Yeah, exactly right, All right,
Speaker 1: let's move to thirty Carl Loftus. That's Buck rhet one
Speaker 1: out of order. By the way, Buck Yeah, you went
Speaker 1: strange when I was supposed to go strange. But that's
Speaker 1: my But that's my bad. You know when you do
Speaker 1: a crossover, when you do a crossover episode, you know,
Speaker 1: look at that happen where we are now, I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's let's just let's uh just going to
Speaker 1: the Kanci Chiefs. I love this because what it does
Speaker 1: is last year when they got Melvin Ingram, he brought
Speaker 1: a little nasty to that team that they were lacking.
Speaker 1: So then you get George garlof to some power player
Speaker 1: to put alongsid Chris Jenal's opposite Frank Clark. It gives
Speaker 1: them something different because they also need to stop the run.
Speaker 1: This is a power guy who is really good against
Speaker 1: the run. It helps them up front. Yeah, again, address
Speaker 1: that defense that was their focuss with McDuffie that it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah too, and too high floor players. If we're gonna
Speaker 1: use the floor, why don't you go ahead on deck?
Speaker 1: Who would do so? The Bengals, you know, they were
Speaker 1: getting one of those teams that, based on what they
Speaker 1: did in free agency, like gave themselves some real options
Speaker 1: to take who they felt like. You know, it was
Speaker 1: the best available player. Now, I think we all kind
Speaker 1: of felt like secondary was a place they could still
Speaker 1: look to improve just by getting you know, h w
Speaker 1: W Woozier last year, you know, Eli Apple got uh
Speaker 1: you know, had some struggles in the Super Bowl, as
Speaker 1: we saw at the very end, and then they brought
Speaker 1: in Mike Hilton to which I thought played pretty well
Speaker 1: in the slot for them. And so, like I I
Speaker 1: considered when I was filling out my mock draft, I
Speaker 1: considered Dax Hill there, but I was like, maybe an
Speaker 1: outside corner would be a little bit better. Kyler Gordon
Speaker 1: perhaps went early second. They ended up going Dax Hill,
Speaker 1: and I still think, you know, opportunity to being upgrade
Speaker 1: there at thirty one. So nice work there by the Bengals.
Speaker 1: All right, last pick Minnesota Vikings. After trading back, they
Speaker 1: end up taking Louis Scene and Louis Scene again. Georgia
Speaker 1: defense just ridiculous, um, but Louis Scene. To me, I
Speaker 1: was talking to a head coach defensive head coach is
Speaker 1: smart dude and said this was his favorite player in
Speaker 1: the draft, And I said, well why, He said, first
Speaker 1: of all, he's he's brilliant with the way he talks
Speaker 1: about this defense incredibly smart and he said, just there's
Speaker 1: like a warrior mentality to him. There's just a warrior spirit.
Speaker 1: And people think that's hokey when you say stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but you can tell when you're around guys and you
Speaker 1: kind of you get a feel for kind of a
Speaker 1: presence and a leadership and a little bit of aura.
Speaker 1: And he said, this dude has that. He's like, I'll
Speaker 1: bet I'll bet on this guy. And so I did
Speaker 1: a on Tuesday of Draft week or Monday was I
Speaker 1: did a Twitter spaces with a bunch of Georgia alums
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Was Sony Michelle, was McCole, Hardman, in
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, and we got to talk about Louis scene
Speaker 1: and real qualm was like, Louis, if you're listening, big fellow,
Speaker 1: lower your target area. You are going to spend some
Speaker 1: the next level if you keep getting the way you
Speaker 1: do in college. So yeah, just lower that target area
Speaker 1: a little bit. But he can bring the thunder. We
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, he's a good player. So I like
Speaker 1: that pick. They traded down and did not think that
Speaker 1: they got the value they should have got when they
Speaker 1: traded down. But in terms of the picks, um, but
Speaker 1: I love the player that they came with. Their in
Speaker 1: in Lewis scene. All right, the draft. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: one draft here and just kind of dig into it
Speaker 1: and a piece, so we each take a draft that
Speaker 1: we love. I'll start off here with the Jets and
Speaker 1: talked about it. They look they should have a dominant draft.
Speaker 1: When you have four picks in the top thirty eight,
Speaker 1: you should come away with four good players. I don't
Speaker 1: think in any any uh any way possible. I thought
Speaker 1: they would come away with Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson,
Speaker 1: and then also trade up for Bruce Hall. Uh So,
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardners my top corner, Garrett Wilson was my top receiver,
Speaker 1: Bruce Hall was my top running back. And then this
Speaker 1: has got three players I thought were the best their
Speaker 1: position and Jermaine Johnson. Buck. You tell me if a
Speaker 1: year from now we look back on the season and
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson led all rookies and sacks, would you be
Speaker 1: surprised none at all? Because his game we saw it.
Speaker 1: We saw the explosive trades, we saw his ability to
Speaker 1: get there. I think it's funny when you talk about
Speaker 1: the Jets and what they were able to accomplish, and
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating that Joe Douglas came from Baltimore
Speaker 1: by way of Philly. And so when I look at
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens in their draft, and you worked in
Speaker 1: the building, but I've always believed from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens have always committed taking the best player available.
Speaker 1: They're not as hung up on needs. They want great
Speaker 1: players that the great players sitting there, they're gonna take him.
Speaker 1: And so when I think about just the four picks,
Speaker 1: cal Hamilton's outstanding. We talked about him possibly being the
Speaker 1: best defender in the draft. Tyler Lindonmon was the best center.
Speaker 1: There's some questions about size, but in terms of Watchington play,
Speaker 1: you talked about the bully mentality that showed up, David
Speaker 1: a job boll off the edge, the explosives but having
Speaker 1: the inside familiar Mike McDonald being able to do it.
Speaker 1: Travis Jones up front, we saw him by the way
Speaker 1: o jabo. How cool is it him in a way
Speaker 1: and their and their backgrounds connection together right there able
Speaker 1: to be back. So Travis Jones is another one. But
Speaker 1: then I believe the two picks in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: what do you get Charlie Colar and Isaiah likely to
Speaker 1: me if you go back and look at how I've
Speaker 1: done that twice before, how Lamar Jackson played. He played
Speaker 1: better when they had all the tight ends on the field.
Speaker 1: So let's bring that back. I know you're a little
Speaker 1: upset with us because we got rid of Hollywood, but
Speaker 1: I think they actually made it where the game can
Speaker 1: be better and easier for Lamar Jackson by adding these
Speaker 1: tight ends to go with the guy that there. So
Speaker 1: we we've talked about this before about one of the
Speaker 1: things that they do in their track record is they
Speaker 1: double up at positions. So when you go back through
Speaker 1: and look through their history, um and you look at
Speaker 1: the tight end position, they did it with Pitta and Dixon,
Speaker 1: I believe right the first and then they Hirst James Hurst,
Speaker 1: so so Hayton Hurst, Yeah, James Hurst the tackle and
Speaker 1: Hurst James Hurst by the North Canta. I saw Clowne
Speaker 1: play against Hirst uh in the game. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: they that's there, that's their philosophy. What's what's the draft
Speaker 1: that stood out to you? Yeah? Look, I think the Houston, Texans. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it at the top with
Speaker 1: Stingley and Green as their first round picks, but I
Speaker 1: really loved what they did on Day two. They went
Speaker 1: with Jalen Peatrie, got some speed there at safety to
Speaker 1: replace Justin Reid who ended up leaving. And then you
Speaker 1: get John Metchi kind of add into, you know, as
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of you like your middle
Speaker 1: of the field receiver. You got Nico Collins last year,
Speaker 1: a little bit of the physical, big, bigger body guy.
Speaker 1: And then you already got the Speedsters extending Brandon Cook,
Speaker 1: so I think it's a contract extension for the first
Speaker 1: time in his career. UM, So, I thought that was nice.
Speaker 1: Then Christian Harris upgrades that the athleticism at linebacker, because
Speaker 1: remember Zach Cunningham, they just straight up cut in the
Speaker 1: middle of the season last year, and so he kind
Speaker 1: of fills that void. I even really liked Damian Pierce
Speaker 1: bowling a China chop kind of running back there, and
Speaker 1: he needed a little bit more in the run game production.
Speaker 1: He had thirteen touchdowns, had more rushing yards against that
Speaker 1: that stout Georgia defense than any running back did in
Speaker 1: this entire draft, so I think that really helps him
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Thomas Booker is a guy who
Speaker 1: we kind of liked as a solid smart player. Uh
Speaker 1: to be up there on the defensive line, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe on the interior there for love you Smith there
Speaker 1: in the fifth round. So I thought they did real good.
Speaker 1: If I could just give you a quick honorable mention
Speaker 1: for a Tina didn't have a first round pick that
Speaker 1: I thought did really well. Three of my favorite players
Speaker 1: go to the Indianapolis Colts with Alec Pierce, Gilani Woods
Speaker 1: to tight end in Bernard Ryman a tackle. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: and if you look at all the athletics scores in
Speaker 1: terms of take big time they got they you know
Speaker 1: that's something Chris powers into you think about the traits
Speaker 1: they got very athletic. Right, we're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: break and when we come back where to discussed the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We had nine quarterbacks ago including Mr Irrelevant. So we'll
Speaker 1: do it from twenty to sixty two where we had
Speaker 1: the first in the last coming off right it for
Speaker 1: this one, all, let's pick this back up. This is
Speaker 1: Move the Sticks and NFL Inside Report little crossover podcast
Speaker 1: production here for you as we wrap up the NFL
Speaker 1: draft taking a look at the quarterbacks here and look
Speaker 1: at it set all the records I guess in the
Speaker 1: in the wrong way for quarterbacks, especially for me at
Speaker 1: four going on the first round. Let's not thinking to
Speaker 1: that did hit some of the team fits though they
Speaker 1: just ended up getting the quarterbacks later. So the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: we talked about that going to the with the pit
Speaker 1: Panthers quarterback Ka Pickett. So we just goes to the
Speaker 1: other side of the building there. That certainly fits. Let's
Speaker 1: get into those third round guys, Ritter, Willis and Corral.
Speaker 1: I mean, DJ, you gotta start with with the Falcon
Speaker 1: selection of Ritter, who also had the guy you comped
Speaker 1: him too on their roster. That's funny when that works
Speaker 1: out that way. So and Ritter had actually even self
Speaker 1: comped himself to Marcus Mariota, comped himself to Marcus Mariota. So, um,
Speaker 1: and I think from from my brief time around Desmon
Speaker 1: Ritter and haven't been around Marcus Mariota a little bit,
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna compete. It's gonna be a good competition.
Speaker 1: They're both great, great guys and uh and both guys
Speaker 1: are just winners and and tough and love by their teammates.
Speaker 1: So um, I think that's a that's an interesting pick
Speaker 1: there for the Atlanta Falcons. Buck, I think he's he's
Speaker 1: got a chance to get on the field this year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll start the season, but I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Desmond Ritter sometime this year. Really, do
Speaker 1: I think we had a chances. Yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: a chance to evaluate him the year because they need
Speaker 1: to find out. Look, he was a third round pick.
Speaker 1: You're not like your big time heavily invested him. But
Speaker 1: I would like to in a team that I don't
Speaker 1: think it's winning anything this year. I would like to
Speaker 1: know a little bit of what I got. You think
Speaker 1: the third round status of all these guys take all
Speaker 1: of the pressure off. There's no pressure. But in my mind,
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a competition. I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's a competition. No, but but, but there's a
Speaker 1: difference in saying it's not a competition and he's not
Speaker 1: gonna play all year long when you want to look
Speaker 1: at him a little bit, I mean, maybe it depends
Speaker 1: on how we go. Maybe with some games you're not winning.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota made let us to win games. And so
Speaker 1: with that in mind, let's go to the next guy,
Speaker 1: Malik Willis. And this is what I love about the
Speaker 1: Malik Willis pick. There's no pressure to put him on
Speaker 1: the field because Ryan Tanneil has played in the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl level before. Let's take the playoff game out of it,
Speaker 1: and let's take the way that they kind of played
Speaker 1: the season without Derrick Henry out of because it's too
Speaker 1: much on him. You could potentially have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: do with Malik Willis what they did with Steve McNair.
Speaker 1: It took Steve McNair two years before he was able
Speaker 1: to get on the field. Chris Standen was there at
Speaker 1: the time, they fully red shirted, didn't reshirted him again.
Speaker 1: But for he had an opportunity to play for Malik Willis.
Speaker 1: It may be a long road before he gets onto
Speaker 1: the field, but I can't think of a better situation,
Speaker 1: a better mentor than Ryan Tannehill. In a scheme where
Speaker 1: you have a run dominant uh fuel to it, I
Speaker 1: think it's perfect. Yeah, I wonder if they aren't. If
Speaker 1: they're legitimately games and Titan schedule that they could say,
Speaker 1: you know what, Tannehill, Whiteouts, get healthy. Take a week,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start and we're going to run the ball
Speaker 1: every clay and with our with our running game and
Speaker 1: with him complimenting the running game and our defensive line,
Speaker 1: we're good. It's like two extra buys, two extra buys
Speaker 1: for the white Outs in the quarterbacks. Guys, just take
Speaker 1: a break. Malik Milike, you give us twenty carries. Derek,
Speaker 1: you give us twenty five carries. We're cooking with gas.
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at Built Belichick did it with
Speaker 1: Mac Jones last year. I know the weather dictated it
Speaker 1: up in Buffalo, but yeah, you can see something like
Speaker 1: that happening. And look, we talked about it with with Tennessee,
Speaker 1: like you gonna have to make a call on Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill next year. Like he's gonna be your starter this year.
Speaker 1: We know that, but like you've got an out manageable
Speaker 1: out in his in his contract next year, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be thirty five years old, Like you're gonna pay him
Speaker 1: in a forty mill per No, No, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be this his last year. It just made sense. But
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way I remember being in Baltimore
Speaker 1: in those playoff games with Tennessee and with Eddie George
Speaker 1: and Steve McNair. Oh my gosh, it's gonna look exactly
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, yeah, it's great. All right, I'll get
Speaker 1: to Matt Corral here, who was the third quarterback taken
Speaker 1: in the third round. By the way, not necessarily a
Speaker 1: surprise to not see these guys go in the first round.
Speaker 1: The second round, I thought, right, all right, So anyway,
Speaker 1: they all go in the third, almost all of them.
Speaker 1: Rather so the Panthers come back up. They trade another
Speaker 1: future pick to come back up at the tail end
Speaker 1: of the third round and make Corral the overall pick.
Speaker 1: You had to you had to think. They love the release,
Speaker 1: They love the competitiveness of him, They love some of
Speaker 1: that toughness that we saw with him running the football.
Speaker 1: And you know, now he's there with with Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: You think that's a true competition, by the way, Uh no, out,
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be. I think Sam will
Speaker 1: be the guy. But correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Corral?
Speaker 1: I know he's committed to USC at one point time.
Speaker 1: Did the timing because when he was younger, say if
Speaker 1: he committed as a sophomore. Wouldn't that have been Sam
Speaker 1: sc at that time? It might have been he was committed.
Speaker 1: I thought he was. He was committed, he went he
Speaker 1: went through a bunch of different things. But yeah, they're
Speaker 1: both from out here. They know. I'm sure they actually
Speaker 1: think once again, I think it's another great situation. I
Speaker 1: think one situation for Sam. I would like to see
Speaker 1: him go into a situation where, look, people say, like
Speaker 1: he's a kid who's gotten a million lives. But let's
Speaker 1: go into the situation where it's clear and apparent that
Speaker 1: he is. They gave him a tackle to trying to
Speaker 1: help him up front. They have Christian McCaffrey coming back.
Speaker 1: Let's see if he can be what people thought he
Speaker 1: was because remember he was drafted very high. Give him
Speaker 1: every girl to be that player. And then with McCarrell,
Speaker 1: I think it's a nice developmental situation. There's no pressure
Speaker 1: to put him on the field. Um yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the way he looks. I mean, maybe the
Speaker 1: biggest headscratcher of all of him was Belichick going back
Speaker 1: to back rookie quarterbacks fairly early. With Bailey's happy as
Speaker 1: the thirty second pick of the Worth round now joining
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. They Trafton last year. Kind of very similar
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, mental um, you know Acuty
Speaker 1: there the way that they can process things. But my
Speaker 1: comp for Zappy, by the way, was Chase daniel Based.
Speaker 1: Daniels still playing in this league a long time. He's
Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy will have a longer. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a starter personally. I think can get you
Speaker 1: out of a game here. Maybe starting was probably on
Speaker 1: the back end. That's the thing. And the other thing
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a president with the
Speaker 1: Patriot because remember they to Jacoby Brissette, they came right
Speaker 1: back into Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, and so they do it
Speaker 1: with these young quarterbacks. And if he never develops into
Speaker 1: being a starter, but he is their long term backup,
Speaker 1: it is well worth it. Mac Jones has played well,
Speaker 1: but this guy we were talking about trying to find
Speaker 1: someone who was a pastor who's efficient. If I was
Speaker 1: playing flag football, this would be my all time If
Speaker 1: there's anybody app if you're in the I mean think
Speaker 1: about the way Mac plays now. Max way more talented,
Speaker 1: but he's a completion collector. Yeah, and that's what Bailey's
Speaker 1: appy is seven picks later. Both trained with the same guy, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: with David Morris, so they know each other. They trained
Speaker 1: with each other again this you know, this trap process
Speaker 1: and Bailey, alright, that one shot. Guys, that was the
Speaker 1: big If you told me of all the quarterbacks where
Speaker 1: they went, who they went to. He told me Sam
Speaker 1: how it was going to be in the fifth round.
Speaker 1: I said, You're no way, There's no way. And we
Speaker 1: can talk about this quarterback class being underwhelming and it's down.
Speaker 1: It's not what he's been. A dude should have gone.
Speaker 1: That's disrespectful, disrespect, disrespect. They treated the quarterbacks as if
Speaker 1: they were this one he could play. I can argue
Speaker 1: you could play this year. I can argue the other ones. Okay,
Speaker 1: value where they got him, I can I get it.
Speaker 1: Sam Howell, he hi, come on man, Yeah, so but
Speaker 1: come on. But the situation for him is actually pretty
Speaker 1: good because you don't have an opportunity. He's an upgrade
Speaker 1: over Tyheky. He gives them a chance to kind of
Speaker 1: develop and kind of figured out. And look, he goes
Speaker 1: in as a fifth round pick. He has to kind
Speaker 1: of play and fight his way out of that quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Yeah, all right, the last three anybody
Speaker 1: interested with Old will Coon, Skyler Thompson, Brock Purty, guys
Speaker 1: pretty as a competitor, Like I like that dude, like
Speaker 1: he he was with us at the Shrine Bowl. So
Speaker 1: was Skyler Thompson? Is Mr Irrelevant? Why not? By the way,
Speaker 1: I almost felt bad at the end because I said
Speaker 1: on the air, I said, it is kind of ironic
Speaker 1: that a quarterback irrelevant because it just that's what this
Speaker 1: draft was this year. And that showed us. I mean,
Speaker 1: and Buck, I give I give Bucky a lot of credit. Man,
Speaker 1: you caught all kinds of heck you did no quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the first round, and people said you're crazy darn
Speaker 1: near right man, And so that this is what the
Speaker 1: league thought. I was quarterbacks this year. But I feel
Speaker 1: like we birdly are we not gonna say anything about
Speaker 1: the steel was drafting two quarterbacks in the draft? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they pulled the Washington commit. They pulled the Washington thing, right, cousins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kirkin r G three and then come back with Oladkin
Speaker 1: to join pick it at two forty one. So now
Speaker 1: the Steelers will have Mason Rudolph and they'll have uh,
Speaker 1: they'll have rabisky and they'll have picket and uh Oladkin
Speaker 1: so qb old Dokan is not gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of reps, guys. Yeah, but practice squad and let's go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Um So anyway, it was alright, anything else you guys
Speaker 1: want to add before we get out of here. This
Speaker 1: was fun. By the way, thanks to everybody, uh for
Speaker 1: hanging with us through this whole run up. I mean
Speaker 1: we've had We've had so much fun with not only
Speaker 1: doing the Move the Sticks audio pod which been a
Speaker 1: TV show which we were able to carry all the
Speaker 1: way through the draft was really cool, which was really cool,
Speaker 1: doing path, doing Mock Draft Weekly, Mock Draft Live, what
Speaker 1: do we call that thing? Mock Draft Live? There you go. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's been so much stuff that we've been doing,
Speaker 1: and you guys have been great to hang with us
Speaker 1: this whole time. I do want to give a special
Speaker 1: shout out to the Bile because it's kind of a
Speaker 1: lot to to juggle. I don't know if you get
Speaker 1: I don't know if you get notice, but like we
Speaker 1: got we know, like was on the Saturday Pod Saturday,
Speaker 1: it was he was a star. He he was what, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't notice busy? So it wasna bible Ritt was
Speaker 1: busy to wing his duty, said Bill, and I chopped
Speaker 1: it up. He jumped in, and so we did a
Speaker 1: thirty minute podcast. We did a thirty minute podcast. They
Speaker 1: were supposed to be on the leak, and we spent
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes talking about the packers and all the
Speaker 1: nice I feel like a proud I feel like a
Speaker 1: proud father. That should you should just watching him, just
Speaker 1: watching him just grow up before our very eyes, like
Speaker 1: a proud father with a baby with a very full
Speaker 1: head of hair ahead. He even went out and get
Speaker 1: a brand new microphone for the event, did he? That's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, you, Biel? How we doing? And
Speaker 1: you got have you? Have? You already got offers? You
Speaker 1: leaving us now? No, I'm good. Uh you know it's
Speaker 1: those things soon Oreno, soon enough. The day is coming.
Speaker 1: That day is coming. He's a rising star. Lace Bill.
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