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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show. I am honored
Speaker 1: to have his next guest, a guy who I got
Speaker 1: a bunch of respect for. I always talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: guys who got it out the Mud and I and
Speaker 1: I respect guys that got it out the Mud, and
Speaker 1: it ain't it's not many guys that then got it
Speaker 1: out the Mud like this next guest, maybe other than
Speaker 1: p J. Tucker. When you look at journeys through basketball
Speaker 1: and what guys had to go through to get to
Speaker 1: where they at today, no one has has I take
Speaker 1: that back. Udonis Hasler and p J. Tucker uh. And
Speaker 1: what I'm speaking of is guys who you know, you
Speaker 1: you go through college basketball and real players and like
Speaker 1: great players and then have to go overseas and take
Speaker 1: that journey and make their way back to the NBA.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that's like. And I like to
Speaker 1: think that I'm a mentally tough guy. But when you're
Speaker 1: talking toughness, you can'tnot speak to this guy. When you're
Speaker 1: talking defense, you cannot speak to this guy. And when
Speaker 1: you're talking playoffs, you cannot speak to this guy. Honored
Speaker 1: how this next guest, Pat Bev? What's up? My brother
Speaker 1: Dre Love? Thanks for having me. I appreciate show. Thank
Speaker 1: you now. I appreciate it. Man, I'm honored to have
Speaker 1: you on as a guest. You know, we always two
Speaker 1: guys that go at it on the court, you know,
Speaker 1: and yet you know it's it's a bunch of respect.
Speaker 1: But I just I really want to start off and
Speaker 1: just talk talking about your journey. You know, you're coming
Speaker 1: through West Side of Chicago, which which we all know
Speaker 1: is not an easy upbringing, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: making it through that and and averaging thirty seven and
Speaker 1: a half points a game in high school. Man, Just
Speaker 1: just talk to me about your journey through Chicago first. Uh, so, man, Chicago.
Speaker 1: Um mother raised me. A lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: strong women raised me. Usually that's that's the upbringing in
Speaker 1: uh the Midwest. You know you're kind of familiar with that.
Speaker 1: Mom's being the background. So uh, you know, obviously growing up,
Speaker 1: you know, in the neighborhood I grew up in. You know,
Speaker 1: it was always you know, if I was on the corner,
Speaker 1: mom comes, drive down. Stay yeahs off that corner. You know,
Speaker 1: so so so so growing up, the upbringing was already
Speaker 1: like you know, the rules are set in front of
Speaker 1: you already, you know what I'm saying, even before I
Speaker 1: even knew NBA or anything, you know, so uh to
Speaker 1: go through it, Uh, you know, we speed up. You know.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the household my grandma. She adopted
Speaker 1: eleven kids. I was the only child. Um and and
Speaker 1: the guy who started me playing basketball, My older cousin
Speaker 1: um Um started me playing basketball. He was the best
Speaker 1: kid in the hood at the time. I was the worst.
Speaker 1: Always got picked glass. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: couldn't shoot my PRN one right, you know. So, but
Speaker 1: but you know growing up like, I just kept going.
Speaker 1: I kept balance, I kept ballance. I stayed at the gym.
Speaker 1: You know, when my cousins didn't want to go to
Speaker 1: the gym doing the show, I was there with my
Speaker 1: shovel shoveling up. But you know the fast forward all
Speaker 1: that that kind of brought you bringing me to you know,
Speaker 1: I'll bring in Chicago. Um, you know, let the stay
Speaker 1: scoring co player of the Year with Jonathanshire. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: so this Mud story, this ain't ain't the story. That's
Speaker 1: just you know, from I started for the Mud, even
Speaker 1: even at the park, you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm just fortunate to be in a situation. Man.
Speaker 1: You know they people would kind of listen to me
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. My word holeds holds a lot
Speaker 1: of value now and U man, you know I'm just
Speaker 1: riding away with it. I respect that. Bro. And you
Speaker 1: you leave Chicago, you go to Arkansas, and you didn't
Speaker 1: play all four years at Arkansas, you end up leaving
Speaker 1: early and actually going overseas. Take me on that journey
Speaker 1: through Arkansas with Okay, Arkansas. I wanted to get away
Speaker 1: from Chicago. I had Michigan in Arkansas. Uh, you would
Speaker 1: have been hyped. I would have went to mission. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but look, I'm sorry, I haven't rewind that. I
Speaker 1: told you this a while ago. When I was in
Speaker 1: high school, we came down there and played jo I mean,
Speaker 1: who might had the film at that table. We came
Speaker 1: down there and plays all high school but college. I
Speaker 1: went to Arkansas, I mean playing my ass all Freshmen
Speaker 1: of the Year, newcomer of the Year, um, all that
Speaker 1: sec I was first of All American and Steph Curry
Speaker 1: on the same team. Unfortunately, get invited to the USA
Speaker 1: team again and Steph Curry on the same team. Throughout
Speaker 1: this process, I'm going to Steve Nash camp, Paul Pierce camp,
Speaker 1: Lebron camp again. Step Curry roommates, you know, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh So, like you know, like
Speaker 1: like the story was, you know, it was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It's a good one. Um. You know, unfortunate
Speaker 1: situations happened in college. Uh, plagiarism, stuff like that. I got,
Speaker 1: I got suspended. UM. I chose to leave UM and
Speaker 1: go Overseas. My first team was a second division and
Speaker 1: you wow, second division in Ukraine. For all you listeners
Speaker 1: out there that don't understand what this man just said.
Speaker 1: He's just the second division of Ukraine. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, the first Division of Ukraine probably isn't even
Speaker 1: a top five league in Europe. And this man, who
Speaker 1: who everybody loves and hate, who I've had my battles with,
Speaker 1: this man pissed me off to it seems to have
Speaker 1: a way of getting under everyone's skin. Um it's now
Speaker 1: doing what he's doing after playing in the second division
Speaker 1: of Ukraine. I'll tell you something interesting and and and
Speaker 1: I applaud you and like I just said, p j
Speaker 1: U D on your path. I walked into my assistant
Speaker 1: coach office when I was a senior in college and
Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, D, I think this
Speaker 1: is my last year playing basketball And he said what
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, D, this is my last year
Speaker 1: playing bro. I can't go overseas bright like I hate
Speaker 1: built for that. I don't know if I can handle that.
Speaker 1: That's too far away from home for me. Like I
Speaker 1: can't do that. And he started laughing at me, like, man,
Speaker 1: shut up, you'll get drafted. But like people don't understand
Speaker 1: that grind and going overseas you leaving your family for
Speaker 1: nine or ten months. Ukraine is probably cold. You're in
Speaker 1: second division, probably busting places. Talk to us about being
Speaker 1: on the second division team all the way in Ukraine. Okay,
Speaker 1: so second division. I had a son real early in college.
Speaker 1: Um for early in my freshman year, UM, my sophomore year. Um,
Speaker 1: I just had my daughter. So so at the time
Speaker 1: I was getting dismissed out of school. Uh, my daughter
Speaker 1: has just been born. So at the time, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: out of school. I got two kids. I'm out of school.
Speaker 1: I don't have a job. I'm I'm you know, he
Speaker 1: kicked out of July, the drafts in June. That just
Speaker 1: passed up. Um, um meeting with you know, I'm meeting
Speaker 1: my coaches. Shout out Nick Nurse. He's a poach. First
Speaker 1: coach I met with our energy. Um. I don't get
Speaker 1: a job unto I don't get a job unto October November.
Speaker 1: So I'm just in Chicago and you know your product
Speaker 1: of your environment, say to bye, to get by whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I get a call. I get a call Ukraine.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited. You're talking about one plus rides game.
Speaker 1: You're talking about twenty three hour train rides. You're talking
Speaker 1: about Washington Jersey. You're talking about you. You're you're when
Speaker 1: you're playing that, it's a y m c A. You know,
Speaker 1: like the oldest guy on my team, like his son
Speaker 1: was my age, you know. Like, so my experience was
Speaker 1: it was very different. I came over there with my mom.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, we didn't I think they gave him
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars in cash and we bought some groceries
Speaker 1: with it. Come home, plug in the PlayStation, all all
Speaker 1: the lights go out, you know. So like I went
Speaker 1: through the whole I went through the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: went through the whole thing. That's that's absolutely insane. Man.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I take my hat off to you,
Speaker 1: and I just don't know if I could do that. Man,
Speaker 1: you could do it. A few people that could do you.
Speaker 1: A few people that and so you you you did that.
Speaker 1: Obviously you elevated yourself. But how much longer did you
Speaker 1: still Overseves before you then made your way back? And
Speaker 1: I actually played against you your first year with the Rockets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I go, I go, I go Ukraine. I get
Speaker 1: drafted out of Ukraine. Uh, Lakers draft me trade me
Speaker 1: to the I go summer League. Key, I don't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I know how to run the
Speaker 1: point yet. I didn't think my gang was ready yet.
Speaker 1: I go to Greece. I played for the biggest team
Speaker 1: at the time, Olympiakos me Josh Children's bond Way for
Speaker 1: Lennis Clay's probably one of the best teams put together
Speaker 1: on paper. We go to euro League Championships. We lose
Speaker 1: to Ricky Rubyo of Barcelona. I'm the youngest African am
Speaker 1: actually ever playing ear League, you know again, and so
Speaker 1: with the story with that, I go to EUR League.
Speaker 1: I had to make the team. Why I didn't make
Speaker 1: the team. I made the team. I played the first game,
Speaker 1: didn't play the rest of the season. We're losing about
Speaker 1: thirteen at half. In the year League championship. Coach comes in, Patt,
Speaker 1: you couldn't make this up. I couldn't make this up.
Speaker 1: You always told me that, man, I've always seen something
Speaker 1: you Patton will be better than everyone on this team.
Speaker 1: Just trust me, trust the process. I wrote the bench
Speaker 1: the whole year. Any any regular American it was gonna
Speaker 1: take as back home absolutely, you know, stay there, worked
Speaker 1: on my game, came back to the heat boom signed
Speaker 1: my first NBA contract. I'm excited. I'm playing with Lebron James,
Speaker 1: I'm playing with d Wade, I'm playing with Chris Bosh,
Speaker 1: I'm playing with Mike Miller. I'm excited. I got callers Royal,
Speaker 1: Mario Chalmers in front of me. I'm thinking in my
Speaker 1: head two years I can catch them, you know, like
Speaker 1: the competition within it. Mike Miller gets hurt. I think
Speaker 1: he hurtsys thumb. Guarden, Lebron and practice. I was man
Speaker 1: on the totem Pold. I gotta go back overseas. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: unfortunately I have to go back to Russia. And you
Speaker 1: know my mindset at the time, pride for young man.
Speaker 1: You know me, I'm Manu, the NBA man. They don't
Speaker 1: want me to this. I just set on my career
Speaker 1: in Russia. I signed one of the biggest contracts on Russia.
Speaker 1: Played there a year. Uh next following year, I came
Speaker 1: to the NBA. It's crazy and I'm sure Jackson will
Speaker 1: find this clip the Rockets. Pat Bath comes to the
Speaker 1: Rockets the first year. We're playing against the Rockets and
Speaker 1: they're about to break a three point record. Pat catches
Speaker 1: the ball in the corner, and he about to tea
Speaker 1: all the shot and I come out of nowhere and
Speaker 1: filed the ship out of pat bad. And now the
Speaker 1: way I filed him, and this is this is where
Speaker 1: everybody should have knew. Bro a little funked up. The
Speaker 1: way I filed him, most people would get up upset. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Most people would get up like.
Speaker 1: Most people would get up and act like they upset,
Speaker 1: act like they're gonna fight, and act like they're gonna
Speaker 1: do all that. He hopped up, like ship the file
Speaker 1: and go to the free thrown and shoot the ball.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right. So for those of y'all
Speaker 1: out there that don't know how they value he wait, talent.
Speaker 1: There's a little key for y'all till you know when
Speaker 1: you got another sick one. When he say get like that,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, Joe d told me a story
Speaker 1: before man Jody told me a story about Dennis Robbing,
Speaker 1: and he said, Rick Mahorn laid Dennis robbing and asked out.
Speaker 1: He said, Dennis Robman got up and said, now we're
Speaker 1: playing some basketball and walked to the free throw line.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, but that's what that That's what
Speaker 1: that moment reminded me of. And I've been getting them
Speaker 1: stories from Joe these for years, and when you did that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, cus a little different out here. But people
Speaker 1: don't understand that when that happened though, people don't see
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to people hear this, like this
Speaker 1: is like this is a profound story. Like so when
Speaker 1: that happened, me and Drake were beginning our own little
Speaker 1: personal be from that from that game, you know, and
Speaker 1: we were beating for like four or five years to
Speaker 1: a point where like we see each other in chapel,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say and he don't know
Speaker 1: what to say looking at me. Okay, it's cool today,
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, Like and the older we got
Speaker 1: the NBA is crazy that we're sitting here right now.
Speaker 1: Like God is good about yes he is. The reality
Speaker 1: is I think as two black men and it's a
Speaker 1: totally different thing, but that's two black men. We tend
Speaker 1: to keep that on, you know, and keep that going,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I'm happy that we were
Speaker 1: able to get past that, but also from a total
Speaker 1: basketball standpoint, you are at supposed to still be here,
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I'm saying that, like, we're
Speaker 1: not supposed to be here anymore. And so the fact
Speaker 1: that you're thriving and doing what you're doing, I've been
Speaker 1: able to do what I do. Bro, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't take this for granted at all. And I know,
Speaker 1: and I tell people all the time, you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't take this for granted even more than I do.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that and what I'm getting
Speaker 1: at here is you play like I can admit, I
Speaker 1: have some NICs. I come out and I just can't
Speaker 1: find it. I don't feel like there's ever a game
Speaker 1: where you can't find it. And to me, as someone
Speaker 1: who is known for playing hard, their players hard as hell.
Speaker 1: Brother walked me through that because even to me, I
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't understand that it's games. Play
Speaker 1: every game you possibly can, and you find it every night,
Speaker 1: like like, walk me through what's getting you going every
Speaker 1: single night you go out there. So it started, like
Speaker 1: with the conversation before, So it started at the simplest
Speaker 1: thing of being the last kid picked then that goes
Speaker 1: from high school to be you know, Sharon Collins and
Speaker 1: Jonathan Shire being ahead of me. You know, and that
Speaker 1: goes from college. Man, Mario Chalmers and Collins Royal, how
Speaker 1: the fun they picked them over me, and you know,
Speaker 1: and it was and it's all that in Monstery. It's
Speaker 1: all that ship built on me, on top of me,
Speaker 1: on top of me to a and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I remember I can listen to
Speaker 1: the American flag over there five years in a row,
Speaker 1: like I remember, like dans were going me. I mean
Speaker 1: they still still boo me, but like stuff that, it
Speaker 1: wasn't even like a more of a hate things. So
Speaker 1: when I get to the NBA's I'm not taking this
Speaker 1: for granted. Man, I can't take this for granted. Every
Speaker 1: night I step out there, I'm giving them all. So
Speaker 1: I might get hurt some years just the way I
Speaker 1: played put my body on line on that. But man,
Speaker 1: a guy brought me this fartment. I came back and down.
Speaker 1: I gotta go hard, you know. And that's just always
Speaker 1: been my mentality, Like just go hard, not from like
Speaker 1: a a selfish like a selfish part, not from like
Speaker 1: I wanted the money, like, not from any of that.
Speaker 1: Just the point like I'm in an NBA, I'm playing
Speaker 1: with the best of them. I want to be prepared
Speaker 1: every single night to go out there and be successful.
Speaker 1: And like obviously I lose, I lose some battles. And
Speaker 1: with that mindset, I want a lot of bottles too,
Speaker 1: you know, So like absolutely, you know that's a that's
Speaker 1: a fact. And I think you're you're I I spoke
Speaker 1: about this on my podcast, on this podcast during during
Speaker 1: the finals, You're some guys get boomed, and they get
Speaker 1: boomed for several reasons. Some guys get booed because as
Speaker 1: they quit. Uh, some guys get booed because you know,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. And some guys get booed and it's
Speaker 1: a badge of honor. And you are one of those
Speaker 1: guys that you get booed. It's a badge of honor
Speaker 1: because and I can admit this, like I was once
Speaker 1: one guy that that didn't believe like and everything you did.
Speaker 1: I I respected your grind, but I just I didn't
Speaker 1: see it like and I saw the work ethic and
Speaker 1: I saw all of that, but it just didn't make
Speaker 1: sense to me until I really had to dive in, Like,
Speaker 1: but he do this every single night, like every night,
Speaker 1: Like you know, sometimes you get caught up and you think,
Speaker 1: like it's antics, it's this, it is that. But you
Speaker 1: can't keep antics up every single night. You can't do that,
Speaker 1: you know, And so like you you you you, I
Speaker 1: honestly truly say that you made me a believer. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I can't sit here in your
Speaker 1: face and say I was always a believer. You made
Speaker 1: me a believer like you've made everybody believers. And I
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for that. You've done something
Speaker 1: and I want you to talk to me about this.
Speaker 1: You've done something that I was on course of doing
Speaker 1: and then I lost it. And you've went to the
Speaker 1: playoffs on every single team that you've been on, and
Speaker 1: that that that's no coincidence because the way you bring
Speaker 1: it every single night, that's gonna like lead to a
Speaker 1: bunch of wins and then guys picking up when they
Speaker 1: see that energy. But talk to me about just getting
Speaker 1: to the playoffs every single year. Like you know, there's
Speaker 1: all time greats. You play with probably arguably the greatest
Speaker 1: player to ever played. I didn't make the playoffs all year.
Speaker 1: I played with one of the greatest players ever played.
Speaker 1: Didn't make the playoffs every year. Talk to me about
Speaker 1: getting back there every single year. You've had injuries, uh
Speaker 1: certain years and you're still coaching on the sideline and
Speaker 1: doing all that to get your teams there. Just talk
Speaker 1: to me about that mindset going in every year like
Speaker 1: I'm getting there. So when I first came to the
Speaker 1: league with the Rockets, we were just really talented and
Speaker 1: was I think we were the act that the time,
Speaker 1: but we were just young. Really time to young. James
Speaker 1: Hard and Jay Land chat with Parsons. So my first
Speaker 1: year with the playoffs obviously is my first year. I
Speaker 1: don't understand the ground. I just know that in the
Speaker 1: game I play, we're supposed to win, and like if
Speaker 1: I lose, I'm angry. But then I get on the bus,
Speaker 1: this guy is not angry, and this guy's on his
Speaker 1: phone and this guy is something to So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe losing it's losing okay. No, I'm fun that fun
Speaker 1: that losing is not okay. I will not accept that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, at the four or five years, get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs Western Conference Finals with the Rockets, you know,
Speaker 1: and I go to the Clippers and and and I
Speaker 1: get put in the trade. You know, me Lu Tree,
Speaker 1: Sam Deker, all the picks and Chris Paul. I kind
Speaker 1: of looked at like and I I know it one
Speaker 1: just me, but like, you know, I got traded, like
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, like that's that's a big deal. Like I
Speaker 1: hope maybe I hope a little bit about you, you know,
Speaker 1: And when I got to the Clippers, I just wanted to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to kind of keep it going.
Speaker 1: You know. Some years my you know, like like like
Speaker 1: like some years, my attitude, you know, I wasn't coming
Speaker 1: in with the best attitude and training account, you know,
Speaker 1: some years obviously because I'm young. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to you know, really be a professional. I
Speaker 1: really haven't had really good that so I'm really kind
Speaker 1: of learning everything on the go, you know. Um but man,
Speaker 1: when it all click, Man, it all click. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe my you know, third year and Clippers. I mean
Speaker 1: this is maybe four years ago and it all clicked.
Speaker 1: It all clicked. The work at, the ability to voice
Speaker 1: what I have to say, the ability to coach, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm the game has slown down. Like you know, I've
Speaker 1: always had great coaches growing up, Like now the game
Speaker 1: is a slow motion like I see things defensively that
Speaker 1: even coaches don't see, you know, and and and and
Speaker 1: I became like addicted to it, right like I became
Speaker 1: addicted to it. Like I wanted to get better. I
Speaker 1: wanted to find ways to get better. I wasn't a
Speaker 1: goot pick and role player. I wanted to get better
Speaker 1: at that. I wanted to a good three point shoot, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep my percentages up. Okay, say you're
Speaker 1: asking the corner, then, like that's the shocks in the corner.
Speaker 1: Say less, Like I begin find ways to like being
Speaker 1: one of the top like professionals in the NBA, you know,
Speaker 1: owing it off the court, no d y s, no domestics,
Speaker 1: no none of that funny ship, no drinking and driving
Speaker 1: like so my brand has always been solid, but you know,
Speaker 1: with the antics, people to know who I am. So
Speaker 1: but when you do it for so long, like you say,
Speaker 1: people like, damn, that's maybe that's just really him, like
Speaker 1: you know, and and and from there, it's just the
Speaker 1: addiction just grew and grew, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: everything I do, I see things most I see things
Speaker 1: other people don't see. I see things coaches from see
Speaker 1: like and and and I've just been it's been fun now,
Speaker 1: you know, Like it went from like hard, like damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta grind, grind, to like it's fun now, like
Speaker 1: it's so much fun now, you know. So I mean
Speaker 1: you know that, you know that, you know that the best.
Speaker 1: So I think when that game started to slow down
Speaker 1: for you and you can see plays to use two
Speaker 1: steps ahead of these players before they happen, it's fun
Speaker 1: as hell. Because for me personally, I feel like like
Speaker 1: going into game, I'm like, I'm gonna the whole office up,
Speaker 1: like no problems. I'm about to destroy their whole office.
Speaker 1: I know what they're trying to get to. I know
Speaker 1: what he trying to do. I'm about to mess the
Speaker 1: whole office up. And that's you every night, like you
Speaker 1: gotta do something else. I got to you got it?
Speaker 1: And my thing is and you you know, it's promises.
Speaker 1: And I tell everybody this, like it's no one in
Speaker 1: the in the game right now that impact like winning
Speaker 1: the way the way you do on your level and
Speaker 1: the way I do on my level. Obviously I'm not
Speaker 1: a champion, so I can't even even speak to that caliber.
Speaker 1: But but you don't have to be a Champian to
Speaker 1: be a winner. That's the first thing you understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like so like you know, my time maybe
Speaker 1: hasn't come yet, but like all those same ingredients involved
Speaker 1: the same thing, you know. So when it comes to
Speaker 1: impact impact in a game like that, it's fun now, man,
Speaker 1: because he's out of control. I'm gonna just take a
Speaker 1: charge on him. He's gonna get frustraighted. I'm getting on
Speaker 1: his skin. Okay, I'm a faither ship out of him. Okay, Tech,
Speaker 1: he's out the game, all right, Cool, that's cool. Next,
Speaker 1: who I got next? Okay, coach, I'm gonna talk to
Speaker 1: the coaching him a little router that bullsh that system
Speaker 1: he's running. Okay, the delayship don't work for pressure on
Speaker 1: the big right here from Okay, got the coach argue
Speaker 1: with me. I'm cool, I'm cool. Now, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: My job is this my star pressures off, y'all. They're
Speaker 1: all looking at me, y'all. Make y'all freak those who
Speaker 1: need to. You'll make y'all three points when you need to.
Speaker 1: I got it, y'all good, you know, And it's and
Speaker 1: it's you know, it is. That's how it is. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope to God that y'all understood what this man
Speaker 1: just said. I hope y'all understood what this man just did,
Speaker 1: because that right there is impressive. That right there is
Speaker 1: why who you are who you are. That right there's
Speaker 1: why you're in the playoffs every year because all of
Speaker 1: those things. People don't understand those things. Like for for
Speaker 1: those of you that couldn't quite understand, he said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this man out of the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know he's a little out of control. Le'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a charge out of him, my own his skin.
Speaker 1: Let me go get this next guy up. Just got him.
Speaker 1: He got a tech all right, dang oh, I got
Speaker 1: him another. He got the game. Let me get to
Speaker 1: this coach. Hey, your system is awful now he right
Speaker 1: he talking to me. He's not thinking no more about
Speaker 1: the system he actually running. Do do y'all understand what
Speaker 1: this man just did? That is absolutely insane, bro, And
Speaker 1: I respect it. I get it, I love it. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it right there, like that is being a master
Speaker 1: at what you do. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think so many people get caught into like, oh man,
Speaker 1: he don't score, he don't do this, he don't do that.
Speaker 1: And I saw shout out to Rico, hans O g Rico.
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw um you were speaking and speaking
Speaker 1: on Rico. One thing I respect about Rico is when
Speaker 1: guys coming to Jim, Rico want to hear himself talk.
Speaker 1: Rico want to hear the guys talk that he's seen
Speaker 1: doing it that he respect and I love and I
Speaker 1: respect that because you get number one, he's gonna require
Speaker 1: that you play great basketball. That's number one. But then
Speaker 1: you get like real game and Rico give give game
Speaker 1: to like game like o G. But when you're getting
Speaker 1: game from guys that's doing it currently, that's that's doing
Speaker 1: it right now, that's been doing it for a long
Speaker 1: time with some of these younger guys, that being that gym,
Speaker 1: it rings differently. And I saw, uh, your speech and
Speaker 1: it was very similar to something that I had said there.
Speaker 1: And you were just talking about like, uh, different roles
Speaker 1: and what guys got to do in the league. And
Speaker 1: I respect that and just just like talk to me
Speaker 1: about being a master in your role because people can't
Speaker 1: quite understand that and because of that. They don't understand
Speaker 1: the value that's that one is bringing. So just talk
Speaker 1: to me about being a master as you are in
Speaker 1: your role, so Irish STARNI in high school, I go
Speaker 1: to college, they bring me in put the ball and
Speaker 1: oh I go overseas to have the same traces that
Speaker 1: I had in college and high school and the US
Speaker 1: you know, the Olympic game team. Put the ball in
Speaker 1: the hole. That's always been my thing is put the
Speaker 1: ball in the whole pad, get to the paint, it's
Speaker 1: the free throw line, put the ball in home. Do
Speaker 1: you We're talking about m v P s and euro
Speaker 1: Cup like put the ball in the hole. I had
Speaker 1: to come and learn the whole fucking new skills, draaytense.
Speaker 1: That's like Steph Curry being a shooter coming to the
Speaker 1: league and being the best defensive player in the world.
Speaker 1: A new trade and had to master that trade in
Speaker 1: order for me to be successful. I had to master
Speaker 1: trade that I didn't know zero like very little bout
Speaker 1: So okay, cool, alright, bet okay, cool. No one's picking
Speaker 1: up ninety four ft. Okay, I'm gonna pick up ninety
Speaker 1: four feet Okay, Okay, I'm gonna to take that little
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that with you, Mr ninety four feet.
Speaker 1: But now if I do pick up whatever I want
Speaker 1: that my title to be, I have to back that up.
Speaker 1: In order back that up, I need I need. I
Speaker 1: need something solid, what solid awards, awards that come from
Speaker 1: the NBA, not just what I think what other people think.
Speaker 1: And okay, cool, Okay, first team, you got a couple
Speaker 1: of second teams? Okay, kaua uh you got defensive player?
Speaker 1: Ye I don't really know nobody that I can just
Speaker 1: call off on phone to get defense. What do I
Speaker 1: need to do? Who? You need to block more shots? Man? Okay,
Speaker 1: and take more charges? Okay? The last year career eye
Speaker 1: steals top ten charges. Let's number one guarden. Block shots
Speaker 1: don't make a fucking team. Now I'm angry, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like so, but it comes with it. Okay, goom,
Speaker 1: that's the whole beauty of that started this ship, that
Speaker 1: started from the beginning. Let's get back. Let's wrap it
Speaker 1: all up. That didn't work, stretch that stratch through that training?
Speaker 1: Should I deal with them? Handstrings? Fun that. Let's work
Speaker 1: on the cross that you know understand whatever you get better,
Speaker 1: We got to get better because you gotta make a team.
Speaker 1: That's the only way I can so lit, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to piece together ways of you know, um, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to individually getting better. I don't know if that's my body.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's my mind. So Jo, I
Speaker 1: just go through a phase one year. I just started
Speaker 1: looking at all coaches. Bro I started looking at all
Speaker 1: the coaches who came on the top. I can all
Speaker 1: the coaches who came to the Mike Wootenholzer system. I
Speaker 1: started looking at all the coaches with a system they're
Speaker 1: running where they at now, Uh, we're okay. If the
Speaker 1: offense is driving a ball, where's the ball come droving
Speaker 1: from the Most of the time, I'm getting my numbers. Okay, slots,
Speaker 1: slot drives, Okay. I can take advantage there. I can
Speaker 1: be in charge lanes, okay. Cool. I got to respect
Speaker 1: around the league. They let me a foul. I can
Speaker 1: knock the shoot out of people that they won't call it,
Speaker 1: especially young guys. I gotta watch I do step though,
Speaker 1: because they might try to kick me out. Then I
Speaker 1: went through a whole phase of like, okay, like with tendencies.
Speaker 1: So I have them. All I have. All my training
Speaker 1: is like man, fuck okay, cool, like fuck the skille.
Speaker 1: This summer, I need to know. I need to spend
Speaker 1: a year I just knowing players. I was overseas, so
Speaker 1: I didn't play against these guys in college. I didn't
Speaker 1: know how set and such moves off screens or have
Speaker 1: such and such a move. I just I just knew. Okay,
Speaker 1: give me Tennessee. So I spent one summer bro weight room, conditioning,
Speaker 1: and film study, not even basketball skill. I have to
Speaker 1: sacrifice of the year of my basketball skill because I understand, like, okay,
Speaker 1: that ship go come, I'm gonna get up all the attempts,
Speaker 1: all the shots that ships go come. I gotta stand
Speaker 1: in his his sleep, and I wonder for me to stay
Speaker 1: in this league, I gotta pick up ninety four. I
Speaker 1: gotta calls have it. I gotta know what's going on.
Speaker 1: And I have no tendencies. I have to no tendencies
Speaker 1: better than my coaches. That So I'm going through the
Speaker 1: and I'm going through different plays, and I'm going through
Speaker 1: different people. Okay, Steph Curry obviously, and I can't touch
Speaker 1: him like I wanted to. Al Right, cool, watch that
Speaker 1: left hand you know, kind of send him left because
Speaker 1: you don't really like that ocause Clay, I gotta stay
Speaker 1: down on him. You know, I'm'm facing dang. Okay, he
Speaker 1: might pull deep, but I'm living with that ship. I
Speaker 1: don't that really can't beat me consistently, not not all game.
Speaker 1: And if he does, saying you got me tonight, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, Okay, Katie, Okay, cool.
Speaker 1: He's never really seen a player like me guard him,
Speaker 1: not a small ones, So fucking I'm gonna just take
Speaker 1: his legs. I'm gonna put my fucking back on his
Speaker 1: fucking hand strings every play until it's too much. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep going and say, you know, I get kicked
Speaker 1: out it's too much of him, Drake. I gotta get it, bro,
Speaker 1: I have to get it, Dre I do, because ain't
Speaker 1: nobody gonna get it for Pat Bell like I gotta
Speaker 1: go get it on my own. And that's what that's became.
Speaker 1: I you know, add that to the addiction that I
Speaker 1: have to want to win out like. It's a sick combination, bro,
Speaker 1: it really is. And speaking of the awards, you talked
Speaker 1: about the awards. You know you got first team, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Pat Bell, he do first team. A
Speaker 1: lot of respect for Pat Bell, and I'm gonna shout
Speaker 1: out somebody who I know he got a lot of
Speaker 1: respect for from the same city. Tony Allen. Talked to
Speaker 1: me about Tony Allen and his his path through the
Speaker 1: league and what impact did that have on you coming
Speaker 1: from the same city. So, so t A. You gotta
Speaker 1: understand t A will buy them. These are like the
Speaker 1: Godfathers in Chicago. Obviously you have to antone Walkers, and
Speaker 1: but these guys are way a little older than me.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about games that I actually went
Speaker 1: to as the seventh grader, looking like can't like man,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to play in this game, you know,
Speaker 1: like like that. So when I got in touch with
Speaker 1: will buying him, he kind of gave me the blueprint,
Speaker 1: like you know, he was playing with Detroit at the time.
Speaker 1: Everyone can everyone, man, everyone plays offense. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you in touch with somebody. Pat y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all are literally twins. You're the same person. You need
Speaker 1: to talk to him. Okay, what's his name, Tony Allen?
Speaker 1: I'm oversea, so I'm like hell yeah, like hell yeah,
Speaker 1: like hell, y'all want to talk to t A. I
Speaker 1: talked to t a Um and he gave me. He
Speaker 1: gave me like raw ship, like so how is your
Speaker 1: grip strength? And I'm like, I don't know. Do you
Speaker 1: do finger to push ups? Like I'm no, how is
Speaker 1: your lunch? Like everything was about body body strength strength strength. Instantly,
Speaker 1: I hang up the phone. I could. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't lie to you, bro, I hang up the phone.
Speaker 1: I'll go right to the way the room. I think
Speaker 1: I blank out in that bit. I'm in that bit,
Speaker 1: sifted like three hours straight. You feel me. I gotta
Speaker 1: do what Tony Allen did. So now I'm seeing t
Speaker 1: A He doing his thing Memphis. He playing y'all you're
Speaker 1: on the ground, he yelled the first team. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: like the impact he had with it, Like, Okay, t
Speaker 1: A you from Chicago. I'm from Chicago. You're the big homie. Like,
Speaker 1: can I get that? Set me? Get that? Then I
Speaker 1: know you on your way out. I ain't gonna do
Speaker 1: wrong back. I'm gonna do right a back. Get funny trouble,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do right back. He man, all respect, take
Speaker 1: you gotta, you know, And that's just always been my thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I always feel like I'm first saying no
Speaker 1: matter what, no matter what. And you have that type
Speaker 1: of impact, you know what I'm saying. Obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of people that vote on these things that you know
Speaker 1: that's a whole story, you know, but you have that
Speaker 1: type of impact. And I think the guys that your
Speaker 1: garden and the guys that gott to see you every night,
Speaker 1: they feel that way, right And absolutely facts, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to be a color for in a major way.
Speaker 1: Uh don't don't bring him up, send him back there.
Speaker 1: Let's try to bring this guy. Absolutely no that that's
Speaker 1: a fact. But in speaking of defensive guys, Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: one defensive player of the Year, first guard since Gary
Speaker 1: payton Um, what does that do for your psyche? Does
Speaker 1: that make you say, Okay, now I can break through
Speaker 1: because I should have been in that uh conversation anyway,
Speaker 1: or do you feel like that's a one time thing
Speaker 1: where it's like, all right, let's check this box again.
Speaker 1: But it's not really possible for guards because like yourself,
Speaker 1: like Tony Allen, it's crazy that Tony Allen never won
Speaker 1: the defensive player to you or you talk to any
Speaker 1: body who was anybody, most guy Kobe, Steph Clay. You
Speaker 1: talk to these guys, and most guys talk about Tony
Speaker 1: Allen's defense and like the defense that he played for years.
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to witness him met like completely
Speaker 1: take us out of our offense, Like do you think
Speaker 1: that opens doors? Or do you think that's kind of
Speaker 1: a check the box thing? And and goes back to
Speaker 1: the bigs. So you know, after when I when I
Speaker 1: seen the Marcus smart thing, I do mean, was piste
Speaker 1: the funk off? J I ain't gonna laugh, bro, And
Speaker 1: I'll be a fool not to sit from a competitor standpoint.
Speaker 1: I'll be a cap sitting on here telling you I
Speaker 1: wasn't piste off on that, not from like I don't
Speaker 1: want him to get it from Like damn, I'm happy
Speaker 1: a guard got it, but damn I've been sitting right
Speaker 1: here like I've been sitting right here for years. But
Speaker 1: I respect it. A guard got it, you know. So
Speaker 1: now I'm like, Okay, what do I have to do? Now?
Speaker 1: You have to block more shots? So I have to okay,
Speaker 1: fun that Pat, you gotta win more. You gotta win more. Okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta win more, and you gotta be more healthy,
Speaker 1: like playing sixty five games. Fucking maybe you guys just
Speaker 1: gotta play the whole eight two pat Okay, cool? So
Speaker 1: what does that mean now for the summertime? Okay? Maybe
Speaker 1: lift a lot more rest now you also, like again
Speaker 1: I changed it, changed and changed and moding it like
Speaker 1: for him and trying to make it fit, trying to
Speaker 1: make make it work, trying to Okay, do you guys
Speaker 1: see me without hey, look at me? You know, like
Speaker 1: if you see the work instead of like, don't hear
Speaker 1: my boys? Look at the work, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: and that's kind of be my thing. But is it
Speaker 1: a one time thing? I don't know. I hope not,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I hope not. Is it fair? You
Speaker 1: got you know, six nine guys you know, you know
Speaker 1: the Rudy Gobert is of the league. You know, I
Speaker 1: mean do they defensively? Yeah, the numbers are there, but
Speaker 1: it's people like you know, like again that's another conversation,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so like you know, so
Speaker 1: like it's it's you know, I just want to I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be consistent whatever the boat needs because
Speaker 1: it was a year I felt like you should have
Speaker 1: been a Defensive Player of the the Year and it was
Speaker 1: how you only make the first team? Like very interesting
Speaker 1: but but noted. Okay, you know, So that's the kind
Speaker 1: of thing I'm you know, I'm flawing with. Is it
Speaker 1: I need to be better in the media? Do I
Speaker 1: need to handle them nicer? I'm not gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: down myself to make another person happy just to get
Speaker 1: an award though, Like I'm not gonna do that, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. So what's the balance? Do
Speaker 1: I need to be nicer to the media? Do I
Speaker 1: need to you know, because you know, I'm not really
Speaker 1: a guy that's you know, hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm not the first ain't basis guy? Because when I
Speaker 1: was out there in Chicago on that block, I whant
Speaker 1: nobody checking on Pat Bill, So I don't really need
Speaker 1: to make sure you get away from my locker. Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I got ship, like you know, like you really in
Speaker 1: my way, like you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: that's been that's been my whole thing, you know, And man,
Speaker 1: is it awards or is it respect? Pat? Like did
Speaker 1: you come in here for rewards awards or did you
Speaker 1: come from respect? Like if I can leave in the game,
Speaker 1: I got one of these top dudes dang or staff
Speaker 1: and they never admitted in and and you know, during
Speaker 1: their career. But when they've done, they say, man, Pat
Speaker 1: Bill gave me problems. That's better than any award I
Speaker 1: can get, Dre, I ain't go. That's a fact of
Speaker 1: respect of your peers goes way further than anybody else's respect.
Speaker 1: That's a fact absolutely as you should because that's what
Speaker 1: everybody gonna remember, you know what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 1: that's what ultimately drives us, you know. So and speaking
Speaker 1: to me, by the way, I just read something, uh
Speaker 1: and you just you just hinted at it. I just
Speaker 1: read something like a week or two ago where the
Speaker 1: media is coming back in the locker room. Uh as
Speaker 1: as as someone who is a partner of the media,
Speaker 1: yourself included to that which we're about to get to.
Speaker 1: But I think that's absolutely ridiculous because nothing gets done
Speaker 1: before the game. Like I'm just be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to anybody before no game. I don't
Speaker 1: have anything to talk about. I'm just that's not, so
Speaker 1: you don't have interviews taking place, so it's essentially just eavesdropping.
Speaker 1: People come stand in the locker room, look around, look around,
Speaker 1: look around, and it's a waste of time. And quite frankly,
Speaker 1: it bothers me because our locker rooms should be our sanctuary.
Speaker 1: You know, that should be you know, our place. You
Speaker 1: know everybody speaks on mental health and all of these things.
Speaker 1: That should be a place of peace. That should be
Speaker 1: a place where you can go and you can settle
Speaker 1: down all of this stuff going on. I need to
Speaker 1: go there and just chill out for a second. Not
Speaker 1: oh uh, what they have to leave with this amount
Speaker 1: of time on the clock, Because the reality is by
Speaker 1: time that time on the clock come, it's actually my
Speaker 1: time to lead the locker room, to go to chapel,
Speaker 1: to go do my lift, to go uh, do my shooting,
Speaker 1: to get my core stuff in tape. It's time to
Speaker 1: lead the locker room. There, So you never really get
Speaker 1: a time to have peace in the locker room. And
Speaker 1: I think that should be like that's that's what that
Speaker 1: place is. It's your sanctuary. Like no one, no one
Speaker 1: can just walk in somebody office and sit there when
Speaker 1: they want to and listen. But in our locker room,
Speaker 1: you could just come in there and sit there. I
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Yeah, I think, honestly, dry ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: This game is so it's so uh it's real and
Speaker 1: whatever the inside game is, but outside it's so trauma
Speaker 1: on it's so he says, She's say, it's so oh
Speaker 1: this person said this person, And I think NBA loves that.
Speaker 1: So allowing media comes and you know, you might you
Speaker 1: might get some stories that you might not just get
Speaker 1: on the media out and I think that's the you know,
Speaker 1: that's the thing they're trying to get and run from
Speaker 1: it and you know, and take it away from so
Speaker 1: you know, in fact, it do get a bit soap operation.
Speaker 1: It does. It does get a bit that way at time.
Speaker 1: But you know, and speaking of the media and the
Speaker 1: new media, uh, you know, I've been saying that, and
Speaker 1: you know, I, like I said, I spoke about it
Speaker 1: on this podcast and just watching you um go up
Speaker 1: there on first take and watching you on get up
Speaker 1: and seeing you start your media journey, and I'm, like
Speaker 1: I said, I'll be the first to say it was
Speaker 1: a pleasure for me to watch. You were very knowledgeable
Speaker 1: which I think is beautiful. I am not going to
Speaker 1: do you the disrespect and say you spoke well, as
Speaker 1: if that's not expected. You know, I hate when people
Speaker 1: tell me, oh, man, you speak well, what am I
Speaker 1: supposed to speak bad? Like? How am I supposed to
Speaker 1: sound like a fucking idiot? And so I'm not going
Speaker 1: to give you the You spoke well, but you were
Speaker 1: very knowledgeable, you were certain and what you wanted to say,
Speaker 1: and you didn't back down from no bump. And I
Speaker 1: don't think people understand what it's like going up there
Speaker 1: and sitting next to stephen A. Stephen A is great
Speaker 1: like what like. He is the best, absolutely elite at
Speaker 1: like he is the best at what he does. He
Speaker 1: is the absolute best. And I don't think people understand
Speaker 1: what it takes for you to go sit up there,
Speaker 1: listen to one of his rents, keep your train of
Speaker 1: thought because he may say something in the first five
Speaker 1: to ten seconds that you want to risk one too.
Speaker 1: But he may go on for two minutes and you
Speaker 1: have to hold your train of thought for the rest
Speaker 1: of that time while he says seven other things that
Speaker 1: you want to respond to, and then you have to
Speaker 1: respond back, not stumble over yourself, know exactly what you're
Speaker 1: talking about if for one second you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: say uh and actually, um, he gonna come right back
Speaker 1: in and destroy what you were saying. So I don't
Speaker 1: think people really understand the pressure of that and then
Speaker 1: actually being able to go up there and do it
Speaker 1: like you did. But what made you want to start
Speaker 1: your media journey right now? And where are you planning
Speaker 1: on taking it? It's a three part question, and I
Speaker 1: know you'll roll with it. And then thirdly, what was
Speaker 1: that like going up there with a go You know,
Speaker 1: we always talk about playing a goods goes. You you're
Speaker 1: playing with arguably the go Now, like, what was that
Speaker 1: like going up there and facing the goat every single
Speaker 1: day you went up there? So I knew I was
Speaker 1: Like I knew I was. I was always good with words,
Speaker 1: like I was always witty, Like I'm quick on my feet.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You say too, I say,
Speaker 1: you know four? You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: real quick. I just I just with the media, especially
Speaker 1: the new media, your your your facts have to be
Speaker 1: point and and and and and and a timely facts.
Speaker 1: Not something that happened that happened, that happened timely fact
Speaker 1: that you hey, yeah you said that, But that's that's
Speaker 1: very interesting to me because you just said this. So
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see how this compared to what you
Speaker 1: just said, because if they don't equal up to me,
Speaker 1: so help me understand, so I could like so I
Speaker 1: can be better, you know. And it came sarcastically, which
Speaker 1: opened the doors say everything you know, like, and I
Speaker 1: have fun with it, like you know, I'm I'm always
Speaker 1: tell the truth. But the person I am on the
Speaker 1: media and the person I am in my regular life
Speaker 1: is the person that I am on a basketball court.
Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm I'm two different people. Like
Speaker 1: if I if I say he's a calm when he's
Speaker 1: a bum, I'm I'm gonna say that to your face,
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna you know, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you know, it ain't Aaron Gordon
Speaker 1: like you you're a two K player, like you know
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem saying that because when we play Denver Nuggets,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the same thing to him in his face.
Speaker 1: You know, whether Mic is there or not, so far
Speaker 1: as being nervous about saying things wasn't an issue. But
Speaker 1: going up there with stephen A, it was like, I
Speaker 1: don't think people understand like his his vocabulary, Like it's insane,
Speaker 1: My goodness, brocavalary, dude, that the source of encyclopedia. Dude
Speaker 1: is all of that, all of that comes up and
Speaker 1: he's so fresh and he's and people don't understand like
Speaker 1: he's an older guy. It's like, so for him to
Speaker 1: still be able to like to to to to to
Speaker 1: say a word and to deliver a message, and anybody
Speaker 1: on any age left can like understand it, grasp it
Speaker 1: and have knowledge about that. It's got status, bro, It
Speaker 1: really is. It really is so like to go up there,
Speaker 1: you know obviously you know I'm not gonna go up
Speaker 1: there like I'm just this, I'm a ask questions, I'm
Speaker 1: a you know, text the night before. I'm I'm prepared straight.
Speaker 1: I got my notes out. You know, I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to watch the playoffs. Fucking man, I
Speaker 1: watched this ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: got my notes out, so I want to come. I
Speaker 1: want to come prepare because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: I don't want to disrespect Stephen A. Smith because he's
Speaker 1: gonna test me. You know now, you and his Now
Speaker 1: you're in his Now, you're in his playground. See if
Speaker 1: we always you know, we all call him out when
Speaker 1: he gets to talking. Who you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that he knows stuff. But I would never believe that
Speaker 1: Stephen ain't no basketball better than me, just like you, like,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. This is what we eat,
Speaker 1: breathe live, this is what we do. But you go
Speaker 1: up there, now you in his battlefield. You better be
Speaker 1: ready to go every time too. And he go test you,
Speaker 1: and he go cut you off, and he gonna talk,
Speaker 1: like you said, he goes, he goes throw, he goes
Speaker 1: throw a little bit out there at the beginning. Let
Speaker 1: up off of it. Two minutes later, come back to
Speaker 1: it and you're sitting there. You can't be sitting there
Speaker 1: like the right pash next you can't do it out
Speaker 1: the way. Now you're looking crazy on TV. Absolutely, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna control my narrative, Stephenny. I said this. I'm staying
Speaker 1: with this. This is my team, this is my prediction.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was up there, everybody time out
Speaker 1: and Draymond Draymond same. I need to relax that this
Speaker 1: man knows exactly what he's doing. Man, absolutely, Man, you
Speaker 1: think this team has came all the way to the championship,
Speaker 1: the fucking lose like they're battle tested, battle proven with
Speaker 1: and without Katie. Like, man, y'all trip, oh, Pat, you
Speaker 1: were right about Draymond. He was gonna I'm a basketball player,
Speaker 1: like obviously, like dray know what's going on? Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: let me get that attention, all right, Steph, y'all cool now, alright,
Speaker 1: cool now song that's hoop. Now it's just test game. Man,
Speaker 1: it ain't checked us, man, it ain't. You know, so
Speaker 1: like and and going up there with Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: was a vibe man, and and like he's one of
Speaker 1: the few guys that like he helps you. He's not
Speaker 1: here to like step on you or like you feel
Speaker 1: me you gonna let you know it. Yeah, it's still
Speaker 1: my ship without respect, but like he helps me. He
Speaker 1: ain't here to like hold information from me or like
Speaker 1: tip like let you stepping some ship. And then like
Speaker 1: oh man, watch you're going like na he go warning
Speaker 1: you everything is to come and you gotta appauled a
Speaker 1: brother like that, especially after American brother like that. Straight up.
Speaker 1: That's the fact I love that brother. Man. He helps me.
Speaker 1: He'll send me text smashages. If he seen me do
Speaker 1: something well, he'll call me. If he seen me do
Speaker 1: something wrong, he'll call me. And I always tell people.
Speaker 1: People quick to ask about stephen A And I always
Speaker 1: tell people, I say, man, that's a real guy. Like
Speaker 1: you know, you you see him go to work and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he did he that. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that's a real guy. And he cares and he helps,
Speaker 1: and he's not he's not insecure. He which he's willing
Speaker 1: to put his neck out on the line for you
Speaker 1: if you asked for him to put his neck out
Speaker 1: on the line. But I got a lot of respect
Speaker 1: and appreciation for him because, like you just said, uh,
Speaker 1: this is a business where man everybody after everything. And
Speaker 1: yet he's so secure who he is and what he
Speaker 1: brings that he's not afraid to help and and and
Speaker 1: that's and that's not a regular thing for most people.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it was something that I did
Speaker 1: and I wanted to see you got you gonna hate me, bro,
Speaker 1: I gotta go miss catch this buzz me in Bakers,
Speaker 1: But I'm so sorry. All good, All good, my dog.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you one more question, one more question,
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, what what did what? What did it
Speaker 1: do for you when Russ was at When Russ was
Speaker 1: at your press conference, when you get when you got introduced.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no no, When Russ came through like that, bro,
Speaker 1: when he came through like that, that was like it
Speaker 1: felt like it felt like a homie that I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't know I had. It felt like it felt
Speaker 1: like because you know, like when it comes to the meaner. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about skilling talent, and people always get
Speaker 1: this fucking mixed up and I'm talking about skilling talent.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about like demeanor and attitude. When it
Speaker 1: comes to like demeanor and attitude. Like me and Russell
Speaker 1: damn are the same. People, understand what I'm saying. Facts
Speaker 1: We were then the same. Like that, it was like
Speaker 1: I had a friend that like I didn't even know
Speaker 1: I had. As you all just heard, Pat Bev had
Speaker 1: to take off and and run to his bus with
Speaker 1: the team, which I totally understand as a professional guy. No,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that's never late, although give him a
Speaker 1: little crap, he was late for the show, but obviously
Speaker 1: he was with the team. Nonetheless he had to run
Speaker 1: to his bus. But my question was, how did Russ
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook show ain't up at his press conference impact him?
Speaker 1: And the answer cut out and I wish we could
Speaker 1: have got the full answer, and maybe one day we
Speaker 1: will get the full answer. But how did that impact him?
Speaker 1: Because one thing, and Russ catches a lot of flat.
Speaker 1: One thing I've always heard about him from just about
Speaker 1: anybody that that has ever played with him, is he
Speaker 1: one of the best teammates they've ever had. And him
Speaker 1: showing up to that that press conference, that that when
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley was introduced, UH settled. It says a lot
Speaker 1: about Russell Westbrook the basketball player, but it says more
Speaker 1: about Russell Westbrook, Uh, the man. Uh that that is
Speaker 1: constantly disrespected, But it says more about the man you're
Speaker 1: talking to, guy who I think there'll be first originated
Speaker 1: when Pat Bev went for the still when he's calling
Speaker 1: time out of Russ hurt his knee. Two in the battles,
Speaker 1: constantly constant battles and Pat chirping and Rush chirping, and
Speaker 1: they're getting into it, and then they end up on
Speaker 1: the same team. They're saying Russ is gonna get traded
Speaker 1: and what does Pat Beth come into the Lakers now
Speaker 1: mean for us? They're gonna move on. And that man
Speaker 1: showed up to the press conference. I know most people
Speaker 1: will ignore that. I know most media will ignore that,
Speaker 1: but the new media, we won't ignore that. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: It says everything that it should about Russell Westbrook. And
Speaker 1: so I just wanted to hear what that did from
Speaker 1: Pat Bath. So you'll get a snippet of it. We
Speaker 1: gotta snippet of it. He had to run, but it
Speaker 1: was great. I have. I have this line of you
Speaker 1: you meet your hero in life, like it's better to
Speaker 1: not meet your hero. Whoever your hero is. It's better
Speaker 1: to not meet your hero because if you have a hero,
Speaker 1: if you have a hero and you meet them and say,
Speaker 1: it could be a bad day, like they could be
Speaker 1: the nicest person in the world, they could always be
Speaker 1: willing to speak or sign an autograph, and and you
Speaker 1: know that day. You know, Uh, when I'm with my kids,
Speaker 1: I try not to sign autographs. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: away from them all the time. Uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not all the time, but you know, when I'm on
Speaker 1: the road or anywhere you go, it's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: people want your attention. But for me, when I'm with
Speaker 1: my kids, I want to give my kids all of
Speaker 1: my attention. And I don't think it's fair for them
Speaker 1: for me to have to answer to other things because
Speaker 1: of who I am. Like, no, they deserve time with
Speaker 1: their dad, and so I'm gonna give them that. However,
Speaker 1: what I have to understand is one of my biggest
Speaker 1: pet peeves is when you meet your hero and they're
Speaker 1: not really a hero. And what do I mean by that? Like,
Speaker 1: they don't give you that feeling that you thought you
Speaker 1: would get if you ever met your hero. They don't
Speaker 1: uh show you the attention that you would have won
Speaker 1: it and I and I can honestly say sometimes it's
Speaker 1: it's very situational. But I said all of that to
Speaker 1: say it's it's it's when you meet someone or you know,
Speaker 1: in this case, I didn't meet Pat Beth, but having
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to Pat Bear and they are
Speaker 1: exactly what you've grown to believe they are, or or
Speaker 1: even more than that, is absolutely incredible and what I
Speaker 1: just had the honor and pleasure of listening to what
Speaker 1: you all just had the honor and pleasure of listening to.
Speaker 1: I hope you appreciated it, and I hope you you
Speaker 1: really took everything away from it. And this interview is
Speaker 1: for Morgens just basketball players. This interview is for somebody
Speaker 1: who hungry. Uh. This this this this segment of the show.
Speaker 1: This is for somebody who down on their luck and
Speaker 1: and don't really know if it's possible to get back up.
Speaker 1: Because what you just witnessed is a guy who again
Speaker 1: had a baby freshman year, had another baby second year,
Speaker 1: on his way getting kicked out of don't get a
Speaker 1: call making ends meet, gets a call to go to
Speaker 1: second division in Ukraine. Two years before that, that guy
Speaker 1: was afaging thirty eight points a game in Chicago. Chicago.
Speaker 1: Ain't ain't like Chicago is real basketball. This isn't like
Speaker 1: Uh he was playing in the middle of nowhere since Chicago,
Speaker 1: Illinois a hot bear for basketball. You're talking Isaiah Thomas,
Speaker 1: Antoine Walker, Uh, Anthony Davis, Uh, Kevin Garnett went to
Speaker 1: his last high year of high school in Chicago. And
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on and on Shannon Brown.
Speaker 1: I mean the list and you're just talking great hoopers
Speaker 1: like Sharon Collins was incredible, Jacob pulland incredible. Like when
Speaker 1: you're talking hoopers, Chicago has hoopers. This man was outing
Speaker 1: thirty eight points a game just two years before that,
Speaker 1: and he's in the second division in Ukraine. The mental
Speaker 1: toughness that you have to have to go through that
Speaker 1: to get through that too, then get here and then
Speaker 1: get all the way where he is. Over the years,
Speaker 1: I've continued to gain more and more respect for Pat Bath,
Speaker 1: and after this interview, I have even more respect just
Speaker 1: his grind, his hustle, and I tell you what with
Speaker 1: what he brings to the team, and what the energy
Speaker 1: that he brings and how him and rust energy is
Speaker 1: going to match up and with Brian and a D.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, I'm not counting the Lakers out.
Speaker 1: You'd be crazy if you count them out. But man,
Speaker 1: thanks to Pat Bath for giving us that goal that
Speaker 1: he just gave us. I hope everyone enjoyed it. Listen
Speaker 1: to it, Listen to it again, and listen to it again.
Speaker 1: Take it to you. Take it. See your job. If
Speaker 1: you're in leadership position at your job, let's sign up,
Speaker 1: give an assignment to those that you're that you're leading
Speaker 1: and that has to listen to that because it was
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing and you can't get that many places, but
Speaker 1: you can't get it here on The Draymond Green Show
Speaker 1: thanks to Pat Bad has to wrap on this episode.
Speaker 1: Talk to you all later. Peace,