1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: Turn to the folks who've been in the game since 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven. Farm Bureau Health Plans offers the great 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage you need with a price tag you can afford. 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: With Amy Wells on Mike Keith, We're glad to have 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: you with us. As the first week of Veterans departed 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: is winding up, they have been gone for a week now. 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: The rookies are finishing up their week where they've sort 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: of been on tour a little bit around town. They have. 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: We've seen the Titans rookies pop up all over the 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: place at libraries, at football camps. They've kind of done 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: a tour of Nashville just to get familiar with the city. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of stuff they've been around, all right. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: So they are getting out of town now and we 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: are fully into downtime. Everybody is backed by July twenty seventh, 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: I think correct. Okay, so five weeks yep. Some big 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: news though where it concerns the Titans, and that is 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: where it concerns the oilers. Amy Adams, Trunk Titans controlling owner, 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: has been pushing the NFL for years to be able 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: to wear an alternate helmet so that you could have 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: a full, as you like to say, outfit with an 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: alternate uniform. The NFL has approved that for twenty twenty two, 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: so if the Titans want to wear a complete Oilers 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: look for an Oiler's Day, they will be able to 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: do that, not this season, but next season. She was 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: one of the driving forces behind that and it has happened. Yeah, 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: And this was something that has been very important to 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: her because she has said that she likes the idea 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: of an Oiler's throwback. She wants to commemorate that history. 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: But you've got to have the helmet. It's not a 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: proper throwback without the oil Derek helmet. It's just it's 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: not the same. So now that the league has approved that, 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: it is something, as you said, that she has really 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: been pushing over the last couple of years. To finally 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: have that approved is exciting, not for twenty twenty one, 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: but maybe twenty twenty two and beyond. So in two 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, we wore the Oilers original uniform ensemble 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: look for the fiftieth anniversary of the AFL, and it 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: was the light blue helmet with the white Derek, and 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: some people really liked it. I was not phenomenally crazy 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: about the look. I hope that as we go to 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: this next year, if she decides to go forward, we 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: will go with the white helmet, with the I guess 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: with the red oil Derek, right, And then they had 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: the the white jerseys and the light blue pants. I 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: thought that was a good look. Those were the oilers. 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: To me, I wasn't old enough to remember the early 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: AFL oilers. But you're right, it wouldn't have looked right 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: with if you're still wearing a Titans helmet right, It 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just wouldn't have had the complete vibe. And I think 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: if we know anything about Amy Adams drunk, it's that 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: she wants to do it all the way and she 53 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: wants to do it correct. So I think that for 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: something like that that has so much history attached to 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: it and fans get so passionate about it, let's wait 56 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: until everything is approved, everything can be the way it 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: needs to be, and then we can rock and roll. 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: This was not something we would have ever thought possible 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: twenty three years ago, because the name thing was so controversial. 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: Mister Adams initially said, we're gonna move to Tennessee, and 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: we're going to change the name. And then he started 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: pulling back on that because he saw what happened when 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: the Browns went to Baltimore. The history of the Browns 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: stayed behind in Cleveland, and the Cleveland Browns of now 65 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: another generation of Browns got that history. The idea of 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: leaving the Oiler's history in Houston for somebody else to 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: be able to pick up that history, that crushed mister Adams, right, 68 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely crushed him. He started the AFL with 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Hunt, he started the Oilers. The Oilers where his baby. 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: He never really wanted to leave. They didn't give him 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: any choice financially, and that's probably a podcast for a 72 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: different story. But the thought of somebody else taking his 73 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: history just absolutely crushed him. And so I don't know 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: that he was going back on saying that he was 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: going to change the name, but it was a huge issue. 76 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I sat in a meeting they took us to see 77 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: the marketing people my first week on the job, and 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: I was a talk show host before that for nine years, 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: and they said, hey, as you come in, you kind 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: of have a unique perspective. What do you hear from 81 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: the people I said, what I hear from the people 82 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: is we better change the name. That's what they say, overwhelmingly, 83 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: that there is no chance they're accepting us if we 84 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: stay the Tennessee Oilers. And one of the guys on 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: the committee who's no longer with its unfortunately good p person, 86 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: talented guy, he said, yeah, let's talk about another issue. 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I said, there is no other issue to the fan base, 88 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: and it got a little nasty over club Sandwiches because 89 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: he didn't understand what I was hearing. I didn't need 90 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: a focus group. I mean I talked to people all 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: the time and they're like, look, I'm never going to 92 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: support that franchise unless they changed the name. And when 93 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: he finally announced he would do it. And when we 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: finally went forward, we announced the name change on a Saturday, 95 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: and Tennessee fans remember the Saturday because it was the 96 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: same Saturday during the Valls National Championship year where Clint 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: Sterner fumbled at the end of the Tennessee Arkansas game. 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee went on to win a game, So it was 99 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: sort of a historic day and it was very much 100 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: overshadowed in the paper the next day because of how 101 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: Tennessee ended up winning this football game. So we made 102 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: this announcement in what is now parking lot M right 103 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: outside the stadium and produced mister Adams and he announced 104 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: we were going to be the Titans. And there was 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: no social media reaction because there was no social media. Yeah, 106 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: so the reaction would have come that night on the news, 107 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: the next day in the paper. Whatever. Well, Tennessee wins 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: this game in the rain that spurs them on to 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: be national champions, and it totally took away our thunder. 110 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, had Tennessee one forty two to seven, the 111 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: name would have been the headline, but instead it was 112 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: about the Valls. And so at that point, the reaction 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: to Titans, but this was true, The reaction to anything 114 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: oilers was bad. Well, now we've got a generation behind us. 115 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: People are like, hey, that oiler stuff is cool. I 116 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: can pull out my oiler stuff occasionally now, and you know, 117 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: if I wore something oilers to the grocery store, somebody 118 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: would say that's really cool, you know. But I have 119 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of oiler stuff that I saved because 120 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: I liked it, and I was proud to have worked 121 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Oilers because I knew what that meant 122 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: to mister Adams, but the issue was it was such 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: a negative connotation. And yet twenty three years later, now 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: people are excited that we're going to have a chance 125 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: to have a throwback helmet and be the oilers for 126 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: a game. It is very interesting how being removed from 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: that immediate history, I guess being a little bit a 128 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: generation removed from that change's perspective. But also, we are 129 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: living in a time right now where throwbacks are all 130 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: the rage. You see throwbacks and reunions of TV shows 131 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: and remakes of movies, and like, this is kind of 132 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: the era we're in. So to be able to capitalize 133 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: on that and have the Tennessee Titans highlighting their history 134 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: and their roots is so cool. And to have this 135 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: new generation of Titans fans be so excited about that 136 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: part of the history because listen, there are so many 137 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: young Titans fans who don't remember the Houston Oilers, the 138 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee Oilers, any of that. It was before their time. 139 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: And to have them embracing that those roots really cool. Well, 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I think it's smart. From maybe Adams Strunk's perspective, she 141 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: reads the room and that is it's time now, ye now, 142 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: we can do this. We're not insulting anybody. Nobody's going 143 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: to get upset. But I mean, in nineteen ninety eight, 144 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: it was a hot button. I mean the minute we 145 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: got the first Titans gear, you know, that's what you 146 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: were supposed to have on all the time. I went 147 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: to a meeting. It was a Monday night in December, 148 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: and the folks from the NFL were there. We went 149 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: to the Low's Vanderbilt Plaza and we were in a 150 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: conference room and they gave us all the stuff to 151 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: take out to unveil the logo. And it was like 152 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: we were part of the CIA or you know, a 153 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: secret mission, because we unveiled the logo simultaneously in multiple 154 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: markets the next day. And so I had in my 155 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: trunk some of the first Titans hats, some of the 156 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: first Titans t shirts, and people initially liked it. They thought, well, 157 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: that's cool because it wasn't the oilers, right, you know, 158 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, that's great. The controversy initially was 159 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: people like the secondary logo better than the fireball the sword. 160 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: And so as we got into that and got heavy 161 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: into that discussion, there was some talk about do we 162 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: want to change this, and the league I think quite 163 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: wisely said no, with what we've got in production now 164 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: for a period of time, we're gonna stick with the 165 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: fireball and the sword will just be the secondary logo. 166 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: And now I can't imagine it not being the fireball. 167 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: How did the fireball come to be? Who landed on that? 168 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: How was that created? Is there lady around that? If 169 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: there's a story, I was not privy to that. What 170 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: I know is, like with the name stuff, one of 171 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: the things that they thought is at one point is 172 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: we would be the Tennessee Thunder. That was a name 173 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: they liked, They liked the alliteration, they liked all of that. 174 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: There was the Garth Brooks. Of course, Garth Brooks is 175 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: coming to the East Sun Stadium July thirty first. But 176 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks had the song the Thunder rolls, and there 177 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: was this thought that that could be envisioned as sort 178 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: of you know, yeah, but they had given Thunder to 179 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: the Berlin Thunder in NFL Europe. Interesting and so there 180 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: were questions about licensing and trademark and confusion. The most 181 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: popular names were snakes. The copper Heads was popular, and 182 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: a guy in Tri Cities produced a whole literal outfit 183 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: logo thing. He was a graphic designer and he owned it, 184 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: which was problematic because the League, as you know, does 185 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: not share no. So the fact that he had trademarked 186 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: it all. He was like, well, I'll give it to 187 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: you if you and they're like, we don't do if you, 188 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: right us. Well it's well they weren't going there. They 189 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: weren't going to get into some sort of litigation. There 190 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: was also talk about like the rattle snakes or the 191 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: rattlers or whatever. But here's what they found. People hate snakes. 192 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: That's it. So the most popular names were the snake names. 193 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: The most unpopular names were the snake names, So that 194 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: eliminated the snakes. Interesting, Yeah, there was a whole thing 195 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,239 Speaker 1: with that. Now. Pioneers was another name. Mister Adams liked Pioneers. 196 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: The League was not crazy about it. Nobody in our 197 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: office was crazy about it because A, it's not real tough. 198 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Here come the Pioneer. I mean, it just didn't. And 199 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: the other part of it too, is it sounded way 200 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: too much like volunteers. For those of us who had 201 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: a Tennessee background, We're like, man, you do not want 202 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: to get in their space, and you got to realize Tennessee, 203 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: at that point they were forty five and five, I mean, 204 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: they were rolling in everything, and so the thing you 205 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to do is you did not want to 206 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: get in their space. I don't know how far that went. 207 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: I just heard about it like ninth hand, yeah, which 208 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: is how it worked for me at that time, being 209 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: a new employee. Titans was the compromise to all of it, 210 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: and mister Adams liked Titans because it had been an 211 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: original AFL name. The New York Jets were the New 212 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: York Titans initially. Yeah, And so they ask the Jets 213 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: to relinquish the name, and the Jets relinquish the name 214 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: with the understanding that in throwback situations they could be 215 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: the New York Titans, which they have done at different points, 216 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: one time actually against us in two thousand and nine. 217 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: That's petty. Well, what was funny in two thousand and 218 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: nine is I was originally directed that when I called 219 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that game where we played the Jets, that I was 220 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: supposed to call the Jets the Titans, and I was 221 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: supposed to call all the Titans the Oilers because we 222 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: were both in our throwback uniforms. No chance. I said 223 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: absolutely not, because I said, there is no way I'm 224 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: doing that to our audience, because, as you know, radio 225 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: is not a terribly visual medium. It's zero percent visual. 226 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: It turns out, yeah, yes, there's no way for you. 227 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: You're driving and you're listening to Titans radio and I said, oh, 228 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, touchdown Titans, and you think, oh, hey, we 229 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: did it. Chris Johnson has scored or Vince Young has 230 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: scored or whatever, and then you're like, yeah, Mark who 231 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez? What who? Yeah? He plays for the Jets. 232 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: You would have been totally confused. But that's what they 233 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: They wanted us to carry it out that far. And 234 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: I said, absolutely not. I'm not doing that. I'm I'm 235 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: all for history, I'm all for throwbacks, but for our audience, 236 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: this won't work. New Wow. Yeah, there's no way you 237 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: could have pulled that off that. Yeah. Yeah, And that's 238 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: an interesting did the TV do it? Do you know? 239 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't know interesting. I don't know the answer to that, 240 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: but I know we sure didn't do it on radio. 241 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: And my colleagues with other teams did not do it either. Yeah, 242 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: that's just too hard. You can't change a team name, 243 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: especially in a room thinking wouldn't this be a great 244 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: idea and not thinking about the practical part of it, 245 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: right from the standpoint of how it would affect a 246 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: listener and somebody following along. A lot of broadcast confusion 247 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: with that, But it's it's interesting that someone even thought 248 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: that would be a good idea given that you're basically 249 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: you're not just using their throwback name. You're using the 250 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: name of the other team. Like it's different if they 251 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be called the Cubs, you know, because that 252 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: was their throwback name, right, so then you have like 253 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the Cubs and the Oilers. That's confusing, but like maybe 254 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: someone could figure it out. But if the team playing 255 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: the Titans now wants to be called the Titans, that's 256 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: like if someone if I insisted on being called Mike 257 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: for the entirety of a program, people w I think 258 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: that was strange? Odd, Yeah, it would be confusing. Odd. 259 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: I would not want to be called Amy, no offense, 260 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: but it just would because of a great name. It 261 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: is a great name. You can spell it however you want. 262 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Very confusing. Okay, So when they convinced mister Adams that 263 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: he had to change the name, the story is that 264 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Paul Tagley Boo, the Commissier himself, told him, you have 265 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: to change the name. Interesting, so, mister Adams, and I 266 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: think Paul Tagleboo called him mister. He might have called 267 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: him Bud, but everybody called him mister Adams. You have 268 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: to change the name. From a marketing standpoint, all of 269 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: this research shows and what we're gonna do is we're 270 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna let you retire the history. So unlike the Browns 271 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: who had to leave their history in Cleveland for the 272 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: new Browns to take over and for the Ravens to 273 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: start as like an expansion team in Baltimore, we were 274 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: able to keep the history because that was how they 275 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: got mister Adams to change the name. And that's why 276 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: there's some contention in Houston still, yeah about who the 277 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: Oilers belonged to. Right, it's not the tech S, correct, 278 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: it's us Because he knew Houston would get another team. 279 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Mister Adams one percent understood that the moment he walked 280 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: out of town, they would build somebody else another stadium. 281 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: And what was so wild about it is it literally 282 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: literally cost them three to four times as much to 283 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: let him walk out of town. Then it would have 284 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: been to just build him a stadium. Wow. He and 285 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: the mayor were so sideways that they you know, it 286 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: was done really over spite. If you read the story 287 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: and follow the history, it was really done just to 288 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: spite him. Wow. And so that's why he had the 289 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: bitterness that he did, why he wanted to beat the Texans. 290 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: And you know, now, I mean, the Texans has been 291 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: around since two thousand and two, so this will be 292 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: their twentieth year, their division rival, and their you know whatever. 293 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Now they want to beat us, right, We're not as salty, right. 294 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: I guess the rivalry now kind of comes from what's 295 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: happening from season to see. Right, it's football related, not 296 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: so much history and pride. And Amy has embraced the 297 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Oilers alumni so much in doing things for them because 298 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, she felt like it was time. And she 299 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: was also to hear her say, worried that we're losing 300 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: some of those gentlemen. And we lost another alumni this 301 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: week as a matter of fact. So there, you know, 302 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, you better do it now, right. 303 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: And I've been fortunate enough to go to those alumni 304 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: weekends that she had in Houston, the very first one, 305 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: and man, it was incredible seeing guys get together who 306 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: hadn't been in the same space for years. There were 307 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: trainers and equipment guys who worked for the Titans now 308 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: who were part of the Oilers, and some staff who 309 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: went down and man, just to see everybody get together 310 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: and have such a good time, it was really really cool. 311 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: It was a great event. And I mean they went 312 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: to Top Golf and there was a dinner and there 313 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: were all these mixers just creating spaces for guys to 314 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: catch up well. And it's really been nice because they 315 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: were almost the children of divorce, if you will, when 316 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: we couldn't really acknowledge that Oilers passed because we were 317 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: trying to become the Titans. We were trying to shift gears. 318 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: When that happened, we really couldn't do much with him. 319 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Arren Moon came here to receive his Hall of Fame ring, right, 320 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: and the applause was like for you know, a golfer 321 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: on the fifteenth hole of the you know, memorial class. 322 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just very polite, and he said 323 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: as much. I interviewed him later and he said as 324 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: much to me, because they don't know who I am 325 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: and I don't know who they are and and it'll 326 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: never be quite the same. But to see her embrace 327 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: now and the fact that she brings those players around 328 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: us in Nashville and the fan base comes to know 329 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: their stories. Maybe there's not the connection there was when 330 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: there was a player, but there is some connection and 331 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: there is some respect and it's fun. And I don't 332 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: think mister Adams did not do that because of an oversight. 333 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: I know the context of where we were at that 334 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: moment as an organization, and the context here, which is 335 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: where your team was going to be, where they built 336 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: you a stadium, where they needed to buy your tickets. 337 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: The people here did not want to hear about Dan 338 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: Pastorini and Ken Burrow and Elvin Buffet and they didn't care. Yeah, 339 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: They're like, that was Houston's team. This is our team. Well, 340 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: now Nashville's grown up. Nashville's a big city. Nashville has 341 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: its own pro teams and a history, and we've got 342 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: generational guys that are coming through our doors and we're 343 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: seeing this. You know, We've had Javonne and Steve and 344 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Eddie and Frank and all of these people. So it's 345 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: like we're more confident. Now Amy's more confident in it, 346 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and this can happen. So it took a while, but 347 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: I think the right thing is happening. Absolutely, it feels 348 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: like a bridge is being built. I was able to 349 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: talk to Robert Brazil before he went into the Hall 350 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: of Fame and what was that twenty eighteen, And he 351 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: was very emotional after because Amy had him come out 352 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: to a game and he was kind of recognized and 353 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: celebrated during halftime, and he was emotional about feeling like 354 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: he had a home right. He felt like this fan 355 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: base really embraced him, and this team embraced him, and 356 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: he felt like he had a place to go. Well 357 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: because Amy told him to. Yeah, not in a bad way, 358 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: but because she said, hey, this is one of ours, 359 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: this is one of ours. This is important to me. 360 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: And she has credibility with the fan base to where 361 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: they say, if it's important to Amy Adam Strunk, it's 362 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: important to me absolutely. You know, the evolution of all 363 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: of this is really amazing. This will be our twenty 364 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: fifth year to play in Tennessee. Wow, Memphis Vanderbilt, and 365 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: now this will be the twenty third year that we 366 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: play at Nissan stadium and to see where it was 367 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: to where it is now and the evolution of the 368 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: fan base. That really the evolution of the state in 369 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: terms of their fandom. It's been so much fun to 370 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: see the development. Because we started off, you weren't exactly 371 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: sure how it was going to go. This was so 372 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: college and it was very polarizing, and fortunately we got 373 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: good fast. We had big name college players who became 374 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: stars for us. We won some big games. The venue 375 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: was new and fun. Nashville was taking off at the 376 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: same time. I got several friends who would come from 377 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: other cities two or three times a year, and they 378 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: would get a room downtown and they and their wife 379 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: would stay and they get up and have brunch and 380 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: they'd be like, gosh, we love Nashville. Yeah, and you know, 381 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: we walk across the bridge, we go to the game. 382 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: We were home by six thirty, you know, And so 383 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: their experience became not the Titans experience, but the Nashville experience. 384 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: And as more and more people went back. I've got 385 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: a great friend in Jackson, same thing for him, you know. 386 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: He would drive up with his boys the morning of 387 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: the game, and they would get here early enough to 388 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: tailgate and they went to the Grand ol Opry the 389 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: night before, or they came up and they did their 390 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping at Opry Mills. That you know, all these 391 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: sorts of things that seem silly when you talk about it, 392 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: but it's sort of the evolution of every bit of this. 393 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: It feels that the Titans team organization has grown up 394 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: with this city in a way that is so organic, 395 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: which is not something that every team in the NFL 396 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: can say. It feels as though this team fortunately hit 397 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Nashville at right the right moment where if you started 398 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: growing a fan base here, little did anybody know what 399 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: Nashville was going to end up becoming. And so to 400 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: have this team with a homegrown fan base that will 401 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: just ride with this team no matter what. And then 402 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: as you bring people into the city, they also kind 403 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: of adopt the Tennessee Titans, and it's grown in the 404 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: same way that the city has grown. And look at 405 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the things that this team is doing now from the 406 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: football standpoint with five straight winning seasons to some of 407 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: the initiatives that the Titans are going to be doing 408 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: in the city and the way that they're investing not 409 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: only in Nissan Stadium, but in the neighborhood around Nissan Stadium, 410 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: because this is where this city is and also where 411 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: this organization is. It's such an embedded part of the 412 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: Nashville experience now that that is just so cool. But 413 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: it's not forced. It's part of the culture here, and 414 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: that is something that is so cool to be a 415 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: part of and to see developed just for myself and 416 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: then to hear even the earlier stories of how that 417 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: has developed. It's a very unique thing to the Titans experience. 418 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: And I think that that's a lot due to the 419 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: Nashville experience. I think that's right, and I think a 420 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, because we teased early on, 421 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: we said, if you were a Washington fan or a 422 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Dallas fan, or Pittsburgh fan, whatever, we can't get you 423 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: because you've been a Washington fan or a Dallas fan 424 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: or Pittsburgh fan all your life. But we're gonna get 425 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: your kids. You know, We're gonna get your children. Because 426 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up here with the Tennessee Titans, right, 427 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: I grew up here following another national team, which if 428 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: you lived in this part of the country, that's what 429 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: you did. It was our help and our hindrance as 430 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: we came in, because honestly, I couldn't name five people 431 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: that had any opinion whatsoever of the Houston Oilers. Yeah, 432 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: they were not a team we really considered the same 433 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: way we never really considered the Seattle Seahawks or the 434 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions or you know, unless you moved here from 435 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: one of those cities, your opinion of that was. They 436 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: weren't the national powerhouse that the Steelers, the Cowboys, well, 437 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins, the Raiders. I mean there were a 438 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: eight yeah. Outside of that, everybody else was just oh okay, 439 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, who cares? You know? I mean 440 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: because at that time they were not a national brand 441 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: in that way. So that helped because there was no 442 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: negative stigma about them as a football team, But it 443 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: also hurt because nobody knew anything about their history, right, 444 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: there was not the built in part of it. And 445 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: we were not a true expansion team to where we 446 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: were starting from scratch. And so, I mean, we had 447 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: we had a fighting claw early on. But I think this, 448 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, this moment when we get to twenty twenty two, 449 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: if Amy Adams drunk and we don't want to fully 450 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: speak for but if she does what she said she 451 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: was going to do. And because you can wear another 452 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: helmet now she has an Oiler's get up. I think 453 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: people will love it. Yeah, it will be a really 454 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: cool experience because it'll bring a lot of aspects of 455 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: this team, both present and past, on the field at 456 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: one time. And if we can do it while we're 457 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: kicking the snot out of I don't know, Jacksonville, that'd 458 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: be kind of fun. Well, I think it sort of 459 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: completes the circle. Like I said, I still have my 460 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: Oilers stuff, and I was very proud of that because 461 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: they hired me. You know, they gave me a chance. 462 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: And so if an NFL owner wanted to keep the 463 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: name Oilers and he was giving me a job, I 464 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: didn't care. I say whatever you want, because I didn't 465 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of NFL owners called me. I'll go, hey, 466 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: you want a job. So the fact that he gave 467 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: me a chance, I was for him whatever he wanted 468 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: to do. Privately, though I knew what a problem it 469 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: was right in dealing with the public. And I always 470 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: thought the Oiler stuff was cool. I put it away. 471 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: I did the whole vacuum out the bags because I 472 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: wanted to save it and keep it nice, and so 473 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: I'll bust out something that day. I'll bust out a 474 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: little jacket or a little pull over or whatever. And 475 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: here's what's funny. So in nineteen ninety eight, when we're 476 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: the Oilers, we could still go to the stadiums. This 477 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: was before September eleventh, two thousand and one, before all 478 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: the security was such. So we would get up on 479 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: Sunday mornings and we would take a cab to the 480 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: stadium and we would all pile in the cab. So 481 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: we're in Pittsburgh. Of course, the Oilers in Pittsburgh were 482 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: old AFC Central rivals. Pittsburgh cost the Oilers two Super 483 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: Bowl appearances and so they were big rivals. So we 484 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: get in the cab in November nineteen ninety eight wearing 485 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: our Oilers gear. So it's Larry Stone, Rhett Bryan, Jeff Lyon, 486 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: and Jim Curry. Jim Curry has just passed away. He 487 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: was our statistician, one of the all time great human 488 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: beings ever and unfortunately the fact that the stats are 489 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: now handed to you momentarily that changed all of that. 490 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: And that was one of my great disappointments with Titan's 491 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Radio is that we couldn't keep Jim. But long story short, 492 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: So Jim gets in and his Oiler stuff, and the 493 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: cab driver is a huge Steeler fan, and he starts 494 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: ragging us about being with the Oilers, and for some reason, 495 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: someone in the car said, you know, you're in the 496 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: presence of royalty, and the cab driver goes, what do 497 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: you talk about. He says, sitting back here, and he 498 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: points to Jim Curry. He goes, that is George Blanda 499 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: right there. Of course, George Blanda is in the Hall 500 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: of Fame. He's best known for his later days with 501 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders, but before he was with the Raiders, he 502 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: was the original quarterback of the Oilers. Mister Adams and 503 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: staff decided he was too old at the age of 504 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: thirty eight, they let him go in then he played 505 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: nine more years and he kicked and everything. So Jim 506 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: Curry totally plays along that he's and the cabby totally 507 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: changes expression. Oh He's like, oh sir, He goes, I'm 508 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: so sorry. He goes, I'm just a fan. I've respected 509 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: your career so much, you know, I remember when you 510 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: played for the Bears and then the Oilers and then 511 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders and he goes, you know you are You're 512 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: an icon, And I mean it's hilarious because the guy's 513 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: just going on and on. He's totally gone one eighty 514 00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: from being the smart Alec pittsburgher to a fan pulls 515 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: us up underneath the stadium. We get out in our 516 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: oilers gear. They're Steeler fans all the way around again 517 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: before September eleventh, two thousand and one, so they could 518 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: get very close to the stadium underneath the stadium and 519 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: they would wait to try to get autographs from players. Right, 520 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: So the cab pulls up underneath, we get out, they 521 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: see our oilers gear and they start just mocking us. 522 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: About that time, the cabby get jumps out and this happened. 523 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: He goes, Hey, this is George Blanda right here, and 524 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: the Steeler fans immediately just start clapping. No. Jim Curry 525 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: is waving to them as he's walking into the stadium. 526 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: He played along. It was one of the most beautiful 527 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: bits I've ever seen in my life. But I still 528 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: have the oiler's jacket that I had on that day. 529 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: I haven't pulled that out in twenty three years. Cab 530 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: driver tells everybody that George Ever Yep, yep, sure he does. 531 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so great. That's pretty great. It's so great. 532 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: We'll see now, though, what would happen is he would 533 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: pull up his phone and he would look for a pig, Yeah, 534 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: google him, and that he would realize it was not 535 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: George Blant. Yeah, you can't do that anymore. But in 536 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, no such thing. Smartphones ruined. We barely 537 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: even had a phone at that point. Oh my god, 538 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Farn Bureau Health Plans. Let the experts at Farm Bureau 539 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: Health Plans coach you through it. When you did great 540 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage to the price you can afford. They've been 541 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. Anything else you'd 542 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: like to throw in here before we wrap up talking 543 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: about uniform stuff. No, I mean I I'm just really 544 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: excited about it, and we'll see what happens. But we 545 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: all have to remember this is a twenty two things, 546 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: not a twenty one thing. So and she still hasn't 547 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: said for sure, she hasn't said it. We don't. Well, 548 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: we know she was for it. She came on the 549 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: OTP and said she was one of the ones pushing 550 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: for it, but we'll leave it to her to we're speculating. 551 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: I guess I think it was her OTP with Eddie George, 552 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: maybe right when she did that. So if you want 553 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: to go back and check them out, I've got to 554 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: give her back on the OTP. I've got a running list, 555 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: Mike Keith, and to anyone listening to the OTP right now, 556 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: send me a tweet of names to put on my list, 557 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: because I've got a running list of names that we 558 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: either need to rehab on the OTP or need to 559 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: get for the first time. So if anybody has any thoughts, 560 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: names they want to add to my list, tweet them 561 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: to me at Titans Amy. Next week's OTP is a 562 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: nod towards July the fourth. It's a holiday weekend, and 563 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: so we did something really special. We have some great 564 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: stories next weekend, Larry Stone and I recapping the best 565 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: stories from Titans Care of It, which I can promise 566 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: you you've never heard. Oh, I'm sure that if there 567 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: was ever a book that came from the Titans now, 568 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: like if we win the Super Bowl this year, that's 569 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: obviously a book. I mean, you know, something like that. 570 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: The move there's probably a book in there, right, yeah, there, 571 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's all kinds of stuff like that, I 572 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: can assure you. However, the real book would be The Caravan, 573 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, especially the earlier days of the Caravan, 574 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: the non Google, non cell phone, non directions version of 575 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: the Caravan. So when you go on the Caravan, one 576 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: of the rules is whatever happens on the caravan stays 577 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: on the caravan. We break that rule next week. I 578 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: am very excited to break that rule next week. We 579 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: decided it's time to open the vault. We opened the vault. 580 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Larry and I ended up talking for well over an hour. 581 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: That's not how long the podcast is. I'm sure it's not, 582 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: because I'm sure Ashley Farrell had to cut some of it. 583 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: If some of the stories that I'm hoping we're told 584 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: are actually on there, you do not want to make 585 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: you don't want to miss it, y, I mean, if 586 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: you're driving to Grandma's house next weekend, you'll want the 587 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: Titans Caravan stories because some of your favorite Titans are involved. 588 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: There are some funny, funny stuff that went on and 589 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: some heartwarming stuff and the fan base the greatest Caravans 590 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: story I've heard recently was Ramone Foster, who's on the 591 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: radio in Nashville on one O four five, saying that 592 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: one of his teachers took him on the caravan in 593 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: Ripley to meet Javon Kurse and it was literally a 594 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: life changing experience for him. That it was. It was 595 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: motivating that he met it one of his heroes, and 596 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: he said, I can do this, and then you know, 597 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: he went on to play for Tennessee and then he 598 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: played eleven years in the NFL. And I've heard two 599 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: or three of those stories lately from people, a couple 600 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: of them not as well known as Ramon. But that's 601 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: what we were going for with Titans Caravan, and it 602 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: worked and we got it. We got a lot more 603 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: in the process. Yeah, Oh, Mike, this is gonna be good. 604 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: I haven't heard this yet. I know you guys recorded 605 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I'm so excited. Yeah, that's 606 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: next one. So for Amy Wells, I'm Mike Keith. Thanks 607 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: for listening to the teams where the legends go. Everybody 608 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: knows it's our house fighting for Tennessee, making history. Cleanness 609 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: is meant to be ours now. We got tight and 610 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: butter running through our face,