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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 2: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: That big job there, Cortuffia, fret beers. There are a

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Well, I will apologize about the pipes right off the

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Speaker 5: talk today.

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Speaker 4: We are hurting for certain.

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Speaker 5: It is Monday, August nineteenth. The year is twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 5: It's episode two thirteen of the Anak and Florian podcast

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow. You know the all night are well, right

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Speaker 5: when you're on the road and you stay up after

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Speaker 5: the show and hit that early flight or whatever it is,

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Speaker 5: but I took it to a totally different.

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Speaker 4: Level this time around.

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Speaker 5: I just essentially did back to back all nighters because

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Speaker 5: I flew straight from Anaheim to Las Vegas to sign

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Speaker 5: up for the Super Contest and had like a day

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Speaker 5: to kill in Vegas without a hotel room, and then

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Speaker 5: flew the Red Eye last night. So fuck if I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna be able to complete a sentence here today. This

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Speaker 5: is gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie's. That's why you're a beast, though,

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Speaker 1: That's why you're a beast. I can't believe it, man,

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Speaker 1: And that's crazy. First of all, how do you even

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Speaker 1: sleep after UFC two forty one with all the crazy

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Speaker 1: fights that happened?

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Speaker 4: Right? Just the energy?

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Speaker 1: You and I have stayed up many nights just talking

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Speaker 1: after fights. Yeah, event similar to that, but the energy

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Speaker 1: was absolutely insane. And of course I wish you the

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Speaker 1: best in your NFL season, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you, I appreciate it. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: The beginning of the problem is the fact that these

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Speaker 5: fights are just crazy, so turning the brain off after

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Speaker 5: that is very difficult. And ne parlay that with the

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Speaker 5: fact that you're pounding coffee and tea an occasional Coca

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Speaker 5: Cola in there, but I don't like to admit that

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Speaker 5: to Ken Flow, I've kind of gotten away from the

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Speaker 5: Monster Energy drinks. I do like Monster and Brian Stan

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Speaker 5: always used to bang those, you know, nias and filled

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Speaker 5: Monster Energy drinks, but I feel like they affect my

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Speaker 5: performance a little bit. Sometimes when I start to flub,

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Speaker 5: I'm like blaming the Monster Energy drink.

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Speaker 4: You know a lot of people say like, oh, I

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Speaker 4: don't even know what day it is.

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Speaker 5: It's like, bro, fucko, you know what day it is, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: I know it's Monday, okay, but I am not clear

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Speaker 5: headed today. As we recap UFC two forty one, Ray

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Speaker 5: Longo coming up in about twenty five minutes. No main

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Speaker 5: event challenge today, obviously, because this crazy stretch of nine

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Speaker 5: UFC weekends in a row is over, so it'll be

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Speaker 5: a quick rip today, probably about forty five minutes. But

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Speaker 5: certainly UFC two to forty one gave us a lot

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Speaker 5: to talk. I think Chail sun And has a little

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Speaker 5: bit of a recency bias when he says it's the

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Speaker 5: greatest show in UFC history, but it is certainly I

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Speaker 5: think top ten for a lot of people, and Nate

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Speaker 5: Diaz is a big reason why. But in the nature

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Speaker 5: of time, we are going to lead with Daniel Cormier

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Speaker 5: and step A Miachich the heavyweight championship rematch thirteen months

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Speaker 5: in the making, and it goes to steep A ken flow.

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Speaker 5: I thought DC won the first three rounds, and despite

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Speaker 5: what some fans think, it's not because he's my buddy.

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Speaker 5: I have a very good, close personal relationship with step

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Speaker 5: That was the beginning of the end for DC. Then

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Speaker 5: and just like that, this heavyweight division spins on a dome.

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Speaker 5: These two men, in their heavyweight legacies kind of spins

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you're wrong about DC winning those

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Speaker 1: what we need to understand. These are heavyweights that are

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Speaker 1: basically in DC. He was just walking forward, pressuring, but

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Speaker 1: This guy is massive, and getting hit with four ounce

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Speaker 1: It was something that DC wasn't going to be able

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Speaker 1: why he slowed down in the fourth round. Was moving

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Speaker 4: So you hit on a lot of things there.

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Speaker 5: And I'll go back to the emotional connection first, because

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Speaker 5: emotional underbelly to this rematch than there was to the

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Speaker 5: first meeting between Cormier and Steve A because Stepe and

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Speaker 5: his team largely denigrated that first DC win in this

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Speaker 4: So DC wanted this one in the worst way.

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Speaker 5: And I think he brought his family because he had

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Speaker 4: Steep A out.

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Speaker 5: He would be the first to admit I think a

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Speaker 5: in talking to Bob Cook after the fact, there were

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Speaker 5: the training camp that DC was able to put in

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Speaker 5: before the first meeting with steep A was an entirely

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Speaker 1: Did, you know, I'm not quite sure. I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think, if DC is close enough to be able

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Speaker 1: That was a tool that I thought he should have

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he was the faster man, and

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Speaker 4: But that is not what you do.

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Speaker 1: You know, anytime I see a here, a boxing coach

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Speaker 1: you hit on a number of great things as far

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Speaker 1: as Cormier and the strategy is concerned. I believe in

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Speaker 1: the first John Jones fight, DC kind of took round

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Speaker 1: And why do you have to do that? Because you're

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Speaker 1: And again it told me it indicated that DC was

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Speaker 1: But to me, it seemed like there was chaos going

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Speaker 5: And these guys just showed so much heart in class

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Speaker 1: And it's tough. It's tough, man. I absolutely I love

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Speaker 5: I just think he is going to retire because he

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has anything left to prove, right,

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Speaker 4: Now, so go ahead and be that mentor. DC.

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Speaker 1: You've done it all, man, There's nothing left for you

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Speaker 1: retirement if that's what he wants to do again, I

438
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Speaker 1: know it's tempting to want to get this one back,

439
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Speaker 1: and I do believe that he can come back and

440
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Speaker 1: beat step A Micic, as difficult as it would be.

441
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind. DC can go out

442
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Speaker 1: there and win that fight. But I don't think there's

443
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Speaker 1: anything left to prove man, especially after such a crazy

444
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: fight like that. More importantly, what's more difficult than anything.

445
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't care about you seeing a friend lose or

446
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: anything like that's gonna happen in this sport, But seeing

447
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: a friend take damage. That's what gets me emotional, and

448
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: that's what makes me upset, and that's why.

449
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Speaker 4: I'm a little critical of the performance.

450
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Speaker 5: Sure, and I do believe that he is going to

451
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Speaker 5: step away. Henry Shudo and I have a little bit

452
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Speaker 5: of a sidewager because Sahudo thinks, without a shadow of

453
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Speaker 5: a doubt, that he's coming back. And I wouldn't necessarily

454
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Speaker 5: be surprised to see DC accept a trilogy fight with

455
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Speaker 5: stepe A with the mentality that he was going to

456
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Speaker 5: see how his body got through training camp, and if

457
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Speaker 5: it responded in the manner in which he liked, then

458
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 5: he would go through with the fight. But I do

459
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Speaker 5: believe that a big part of Daniel would like to

460
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Speaker 5: step away for a lot of the reasons that you outlined,

461
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 5: and there's no doubt his legacy is entrenched and one

462
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Speaker 5: of the greatest in UFC history. And I do believe

463
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Speaker 5: that John Jones fight went away this weekend. I mean,

464
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Speaker 5: you believe that if DC does return, the only fight

465
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Speaker 5: really is to run it back a third time with

466
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Speaker 5: Stepe or do you still think that there's still an

467
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Speaker 5: outside chance that that that that John Jones fight was

468
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Speaker 5: preserved despite this result over the weekend.

469
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the UFC would like to see that fight.

470
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Speaker 1: You know that that's a big money fight, always has

471
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Speaker 1: been for them. I don't me particularly, I would not

472
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Speaker 1: like to see that fight against John Jones. I don't

473
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Speaker 1: think it's necessary, especially with John Jones uh really pushing

474
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Speaker 1: for that fight to be at two hundred and five pounds.

475
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Speaker 1: I think that is a huge advantage for John Jones

476
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Speaker 1: with that fight being at light heavyweight. I don't need

477
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Speaker 1: to see that, And I don't need to see the

478
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Speaker 1: steep Images rematch either, you know, and the Trilogy fight,

479
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Speaker 1: I don't need to see that, and you know it's

480
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how DC approaches this.

481
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Speaker 4: The more difficult thing.

482
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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of easier to make a decision right

483
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Speaker 1: after a fight. The problem is a couple of months

484
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Speaker 1: removed from the fight, when you start going at I

485
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: feel pretty good or yeah, you know that that loss

486
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: starts to sting you a little more. That's that's what

487
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: concerns me for DC, especially when the phone starts ringing

488
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Speaker 1: and they start talking about dollar sign.

489
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Speaker 4: So DC has enough money.

490
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Speaker 1: He has preserved a tremendous legacy, one of the best

491
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Speaker 1: in the sport. He will go down as one of

492
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Speaker 1: the best in the sport. And I just don't think

493
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Speaker 1: it's necessary.

494
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Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people too would like

495
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Speaker 5: to see Stepe at some point start to preserve that

496
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 5: chin a little bit. He's probably looking out of Francis

497
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 5: in Ghana rematch as his next title defense. But uh,

498
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 5: big picture, there is no denying step A's UFC legacy.

499
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 5: And sometimes when we say things like he's the most

500
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Speaker 5: accomplished UFC heavyweight or the most decorated UFC heavyweight of

501
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 5: all time, people think we're saying he's the greatest of

502
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Speaker 5: all time. I'm not trying to have the greatest of

503
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Speaker 5: all time conversation. But on the merits of his UFC

504
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 5: body of work, no heavyweight has accomplished more than stepe

505
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Speaker 5: A Miachichen and we congratulate him and his family on

506
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 5: a huge weekend. And hopefully Cormier can feel better in

507
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 5: a few days than he does here on Monday morning.

508
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 5: All right, LONGO, coming up here in about five minutes,

509
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 5: But I want to get your thoughts quickly on Nate

510
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 5: Diez's return against Anthony's Showtime Pettis. Unanimous decision win for

511
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: Nathan Diaz thirty twenty seven times to twenty nine to

512
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Speaker 5: twenty eight from the lone dissenting judge. I thought Mike

513
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 5: Beltrum was going to stop this fight in the third round.

514
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: A lot of different layers. Two at Pettis's broken foot

515
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: absolutely is a part of the narrative. But just have

516
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 5: so much respect for the work that Diez does as

517
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 5: a lifelong martial artist, the lifestyle that he preserves, and

518
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 5: you know this, you guys have mutual friends. But the

519
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 5: untold story is that Nathan Diaz is going into these

520
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 5: boxing training camps for six weeks helping some of the

521
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 5: best boxers in the world. While everyone thinks he's just

522
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: sitting on a couch smoking wheat. And he showed you

523
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 5: that he can come back after a thousand days away

524
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 5: and his style still translates very much so in twenty nineteen.

525
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and time not to mention he's training like he's

526
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: a professional triathlete year round two. He never never takes

527
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: days off. And I never got that either. Oh I'm

528
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: going into training camp. What the hell does that mean?

529
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: You should be training all the time, Nay Diaz, You

530
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: don't get it twisted, you know. Yeah, you know he

531
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: talks like he's a gangster and all that stuff. You know,

532
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: it says he's a gangster. This guy's a martial artist. Really,

533
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: this guy loves training martial arts and learning how to fight.

534
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 4: And this guy truly knows how to do that.

535
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: He is as tough as any UFC fighter that has

536
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: ever existed.

537
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 4: Just a brilliant performance for him.

538
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: And again, if you saw the fight between Tony Ferguson

539
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: and Anthony Pettis, that's the blueprint, right RDA. The same thing,

540
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: you pressure him, you back them up. When you're pressuring

541
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: and you're backing someone up, you take away a lot

542
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: of their ability to kick. And we talked about Anthony

543
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: Pettis having to kind of throw that leg kick and

544
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: move out of the way. I thought I was gonna

545
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: see an Anthony Pettis that was going to be able

546
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Speaker 1: to move better laterally, and he just didn't show that.

547
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: For a guy who's as athletic and moves as well

548
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: as Anthony Pettis, his footwork is just flawed. And Nate

549
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: Diez did a great job of cornering him, cutting off

550
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: the cage, repeatedly utilizing the long reach, and just making

551
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: him suffer up against that cage man.

552
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: Whether it was clinch work with knees.

553
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: Short shots of the body, short uppercuts and hooks, this

554
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: guy was absolutely relentless.

555
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: And I tell you what everyone talks.

556
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: About the conditioning and all that stuff, But if you're

557
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: moving forward, right, would you rather be the guy who's

558
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: moving forward throwing shots or the guy who's moving backward

559
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: throwing shots.

560
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 4: Who do you think is gonna hit harder?

561
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: So Nate Diez was gonna win that fight all day

562
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: if the Anthony Pettis wasn't able to move laterally and

563
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: he got trapped up against the cage like he's done

564
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: so many times in his career, and he got murdered

565
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: in there against Nadiaz.

566
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Speaker 4: And I know you mentioned some of the footwork is flawed.

567
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 5: You think the broken foot though, probably didn't help without

568
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Speaker 5: without a.

569
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: Doubt, and I don't know exactly when that happened, but

570
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: broken foot or not, this is something that Anthony Peedtis

571
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: has struggled with throughout. And you know, he gets a

572
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: little flat footed sometimes and because he is fast and

573
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: because he is landing shots, he kind of sits and

574
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: trades and watches his work. You just can't do that

575
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: against against Nate Diez, who you know is going to

576
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: be the busier fighter. This guy does not stop throwing shots.

577
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: I love the mixing up of his stances. I think

578
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: that really threw Anthony Pettis off as well, which took

579
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: away his leg kicks. That was a little confusing because

580
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: we don't see that too much from Nadez. So the

581
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: fact that Nadez came in with some new tricks up

582
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: his sleeve was awesome to see.

583
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 5: We have said on these airwaves over the last three years,

584
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 5: as we have bided our time waiting for a Nadez return,

585
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: that we believe the internal metrics are pretty strong for

586
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 5: Nathdez that he can headline a pay per view on

587
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: his own, that on the strength of those two fights

588
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: with Connor McGregor, that he is on the short list

589
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 5: three four names of the biggest superstars in the sport.

590
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: And with respect to Steepe and d C and Joel

591
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 5: Romero and Paolo Costa and Anthony Showtime Pettis. The reason

592
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: we were sold out at Honta Center was Nate Dz.

593
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: Right everywhere we went. Diaz was the story in Anaheim

594
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 5: during fight week, and dude, I mean they I thought,

595
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 5: you know, you do a California show, you walk in

596
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 5: usually the arena smells like weed. Didn't smell like weed

597
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: Saturday night until Nate walked out. It was like everybody

598
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: was saving their vape pens and whatever their smoking devices

599
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 5: were until Nate Diez made that walk.

600
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Speaker 4: And no sooner does Diaz walk.

601
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: I'm getting a fucking secondhand high before the comain event vasibly.

602
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: Their vape pens and their marijuana cigarettes. Dude, it was awesome.

603
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: First of all, the crowd really came to life and

604
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: you could feel the energy.

605
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: That's what That's what really you could tell.

606
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: You could tell when a special fighter is walking out

607
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: is when the crowd is just popping and on their feet.

608
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: They went nuts when he came out there, and just.

609
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Seeing Z shadow box on his way on his way

610
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: to the octagon was was an awesome sight to see.

611
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: The UFC needs guys like Nate Diez.

612
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: This is a guy who has always delivered action packed fights.

613
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: He's been away for three years.

614
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: This was a Nadez that was even sharper because you know,

615
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: if there's one fault on Nathiez is that he tends

616
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: to do the same things over and over again. And

617
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: when you do the same things over and over again

618
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're not a great fighter, because he is,

619
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Speaker 1: but you become a little bit more predictable. This was

620
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: a Nadez who came in with some new tricks up

621
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: his sleeve. He was throwing that kick down the middle,

622
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: which was awesome. He was switching his stances.

623
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Speaker 4: I loved it. What a performance from na Diez. This

624
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: dude is a g for sure.

625
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: And to make things even better, he called out the

626
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: best fighter for him to fight. That is a money fight,

627
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: him and Jorge Masvidal West Coast versus East Coast. Natiez

628
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: is not only a brilliant fighter. He's a brilliant promoter.

629
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: Wow, that's the matchup right there.

630
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: And I flew out to La with Jorge game Brand

631
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: Mosfietal and even before this fight had happened on Wednesday,

632
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 5: he said Nate wants to fight me, so he knew

633
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: beforehand that this is probably what was going to happen.

634
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 5: So apologies to Leon Edwards, but it looks as though

635
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: this is going to be the fight. And I will

636
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 5: say too before we get to Longo. Nate Diez may

637
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 5: have bailed on media Day, but you know I do

638
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: these post shows now for ESPN plus after the pay

639
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 5: per views. This dude waited on set for ten minutes

640
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: while I got my fat ass up there and gave

641
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 5: us eight minutes of live television. So he's turned a

642
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: lot of corners. And it's amazing to think at times

643
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: he was booed walking out. It's hard for me to

644
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: envision a scenario whereby this man is booed in any

645
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 5: arena worldwide anymore, especially after what we saw on Saturday night.

646
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 5: All Right, you know, Ray Longo watched this fight guard

647
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: he was texting me all night.

648
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: He's excited to talk about it. Let us get to

649
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: the Ray Long minute.

650
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes, and I'm going.

651
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: To punch a hole in this fucking up until on.

652
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Speaker 6: The Ray Longo minute during Ray Longo john Na Kenny

653
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Speaker 6: Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: Oh nothing makes me happier Ken Flow than when I

655
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 5: get those Ray Long Go test texts at the broadcast

656
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Speaker 5: booth the Great Gray Long Joints Live, Raymond Peter, good morning.

657
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Speaker 6: Good morning. Let me tell you, I think my heart

658
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 6: is still beating. I dud. This is what I love

659
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 6: about the UFC. When you get name value, like all

660
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 6: name values we can all relate to. We know, we

661
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 6: followed them, and they all come and produce like that.

662
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: That's what makes it great to me. I mean, I

663
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 6: mean it was like forty minutes straight. It's just NonStop action.

664
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 6: It was was unbelievable. I think, what a great night

665
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 6: for the UFC and and Gil to my point, like

666
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 6: the fights before that were good, but like there were

667
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 6: a couple of unknown names in there, and they think

668
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 6: good fights, but nothing makes it like when you get

669
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 6: an Ees against the Pettis or Romero against the young

670
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: up and coming kid. We all want to see what's

671
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 6: going to happen. DC rematch. You big names, big producers,

672
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 6: they all pull through, and I think that's what made

673
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 6: it great to me.

674
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, no big names is really the rub, right because

675
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: this was a night that a lot of people glorify

676
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 5: as one of the best in UFC history, and yet

677
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 5: it began with six consecutive decisions, right, so US broadcasters

678
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: they like, dude, I mean saying to the truck, you

679
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: guys got to finish for us in there. But so

680
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: before we get to DC and step A, I just

681
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 5: want to bring up Paolo Costa and Yoel Romero because

682
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 5: this is one of my favorite fights, three round fights

683
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 5: that I've ever seen. I walked up to Sean Shelby

684
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: Ray after the fact that I said, you know, congratulations

685
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: on that fight and making sure it happened, because this

686
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 5: was like a two year initiative for these matchmakers to

687
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: try to put this fight together, because Dana and Mick

688
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: and Shawn just knew that this thing was bulletproof and

689
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 5: would produce gold and man, did it your thoughts on

690
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: a middleweight fight there between Costa and Yoel Romero.

691
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 6: I put it as one of the best fights I've

692
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 6: ever seen, and all for the fact that look there's

693
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 6: a lot of ingredients in there. First of this other

694
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 6: guy being forty two years old and being able to

695
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 6: withstand the barrage the attacks that this young kid had

696
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 6: for him. I got the utmost respect for the guy.

697
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I thought he took some big shots and

698
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 6: he managed to stay in there and made a comeback

699
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 6: in the third round. I thought, I think the right

700
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 6: guy won, but it was a close fight. But I think,

701
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: you know, Costa was always going forward, and I think

702
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 6: the body kicks, the head kicks, the combination of body

703
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 6: punches up and down. I thought he did a great

704
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 6: job against a really tough guy who was a piece

705
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 6: of grante at this point. I mean, I don't know

706
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 6: what keeps him up, but he you know, it takes

707
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: two to make a fight, and he was rolling punches,

708
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 6: but he's he would explode. You know, It's just it

709
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 6: was old. It was drum. You didn't know who was

710
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 6: going down. You know, those are the fights that keep

711
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: you at the end of your couch. When you know

712
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 6: you know it's going one guy's way in and there's

713
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 6: like a flash knock down, the other guy's coming back.

714
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 6: It's crazy, man, But what a great fight for the fans,

715
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 6: and what a great fight for both of those guys.

716
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: It was like two he man going at it.

717
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah for those you know, An, I'm not sure if

718
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: our listeners know what a he man doll is, but

719
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: that that's pretty much what it was.

720
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly if I want to, I mean, Kenny, if

721
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 6: I admit to even knowing what a he man will

722
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 6: plump it, I don't even know what you're talking about,

723
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 6: but uh, we'll go with it. But but I think

724
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 6: it was technical, Toto. It wasn't like, you know, like

725
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 6: like a lot of people like those fights it's just

726
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 6: two sloppy guys killing each oke. This was this was

727
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 6: this was different.

728
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: Ray.

729
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: This was a really good fight.

730
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: And Ray, do you think that? Uh?

731
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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like Yo Romero tends to fight

732
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: a more relaxed pace. He likes more of a chill

733
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: fight where he can kind of float around and then

734
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of explode into a combination, and Paula Cossa just

735
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: kept it a fast paced fight repeatedly, which never gave

736
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Romero arrest And I think ultimately that's what kind of

737
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: lost uh the fight for Romeo.

738
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: Romero just couldn't get his typical rhythm going. Do you

739
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: agree there.

740
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 6: Is I agree one hundred and twenty percent. I mean,

741
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 6: nobody has put a pace like that on this guy,

742
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 6: with the volume and the accuracy and just the the

743
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 6: intensity of the of the striking, you know what I mean.

744
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: So you're right he was. And that's what impressed me

745
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 6: about Romero. He did kind of adjustee I thought he was.

746
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: I didn't think he was making it through that fight,

747
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 6: and he did, you know what I mean, So he did.

748
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 6: I mean, I like, again, as a forty two year

749
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 6: old guy, I think that's amazing, I really do. I mean,

750
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 6: it would have been amazing as a thirty year old.

751
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 6: But I'm saying the older again, I'm partial to the

752
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 6: older guy still fighting, I guess. But yeah, I gotta

753
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 6: tell you, man, he did a great job in taking

754
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 6: a situation and I don't think he was used to.

755
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 6: I thought Consta was gonna have a little more respect

756
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: for him. He just went right and they didn't give

757
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 6: a shit. I mean, what a great fight. Agree with you,

758
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 6: I mean, really agree with you one hundred and twenty percent.

759
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 6: Kenny and I and I and I got to say

760
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 6: that cost. I mean, Romero didn't fold. No, he found

761
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 6: a way to get to survive and make a comeback. Yeah,

762
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 6: it's incredible fight for a lot of reason.

763
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Domina Cruz's favorite fighter, Yoel Romero.

764
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: It is not hard to see why let us rerack

765
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 5: the main event though, with you now Ray long ago,

766
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 5: your guy Steve A got it done in a big way,

767
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: and there are so many different angles we could go

768
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 5: with this, right.

769
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: I don't know how much time you have.

770
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: We did twenty minutes just this fight off the top,

771
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 5: but I guess on the steep a side. For Kenny

772
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 5: and for me, I think a big part of our

773
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: takeaway is that he really is just the ultimate competitor,

774
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 5: and in a fight that he wanted in the worst way,

775
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 5: he had to lean on his heart. He was disgusted

776
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: with himself through the first twelve minutes or so, but

777
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 5: switched up the strategy, not necessarily thanks to his coaches.

778
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: It seemed like this was an adjustment he made on

779
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 5: his own, and in terms of his legacy, this is

780
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: just a huge win and I have to think the

781
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: most satisfying singular win of his career.

782
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's guys that you know when they

783
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 6: want that rematch, you don't believe by Steve A I

784
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 6: really believe wanted this more than anything, Like he at

785
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 6: the very base of everything in hindsight, and this is

786
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 6: in hindsight, STEVEE wanted it more. That said, he just

787
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: didn't like Again it's in hindsight, but he kind of

788
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 6: knew it. He was driven, He took a beating. He

789
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 6: fourth round, he finds a way to come back with

790
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: those livery shots. So what I loved about that is

791
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 6: he didn't just hit them once. He was going to

792
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 6: hit that liver until that guy made an adjustment, and

793
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 6: he never did. You know, Like I almost think like

794
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 6: if DC would have kept with the light kicks, like

795
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 6: he hit him with some good leg kicks, that fight

796
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: would have been different. He was hurting Steve Bay's legs

797
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 6: and he just abandons it. He doesn't go back to

798
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: it anymore, you know. But you know, the telling thing

799
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 6: to me was after the second round, this was really confusing,

800
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 6: and DC is in that corner and then they'd given

801
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: him so I couldn't really hear what they were saying.

802
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 6: But he looks up and he looks like he's lost.

803
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 6: He goes, am, I lose. I'm like right, just pummeled

804
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 6: the guy for two rounds and I remember, no joke.

805
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: I text my buddy because we go back and forth

806
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 6: like he's losing this fight, he's gonna lose. I just

807
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 6: couldn't like, you're not here, if you're token like that,

808
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 6: you're not here, like, uh, I don't know what. I've

809
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 6: never seen that before.

810
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: You just picked the.

811
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 6: Guy up over your head, threw him on his head,

812
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: and you're asking if you're losing the fight.

813
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 4: Right man, I'm glad you brought that up.

814
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: That's that's wild and it's funny because Steve A looked

815
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: very checked out after round one, but then you you

816
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 5: got step a turn and he you could see it

817
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 5: in his eyes when all of a sudden he checked

818
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 5: back in.

819
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: But you're right, right, Steve.

820
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, Steve A's a blue collar immigrant, grinding concept man.

821
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 6: He's that you gotta kill you do?

822
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: You really did?

823
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 6: And that's what you saw.

824
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: That's what you saw.

825
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 6: He could have broke a lot of times in that fight.

826
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 6: But that guy's just he's just a dude. I tell you,

827
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 6: he's he's a simple guy who's just you know, he's

828
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 6: got a great wife. He's going to enjoy it. I

829
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 6: just hope he gets out of this thing, you know, intact,

830
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 6: because he I think he could take some big shots,

831
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 6: but he's just a grinding, big guy man who just

832
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 6: him right. He found a way and like again when

833
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 6: he found that liver, Kenny, he wasn't going away. But

834
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: I see that was a fight too. There was a

835
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 6: lot of fights that I would I missed Trevor Whitman.

836
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 6: I think. Look, Trevor I think does a great job

837
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 6: in a hard situation because he's got to see everybody,

838
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 6: and he he does a really good job. I think

839
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 6: he started out slow, but he really has come into

840
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 6: himself where I think he he really does a fucking

841
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 6: fantastic job when he's analyzing the course. But I really

842
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 6: I was waiting to hear what he was saying after

843
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 6: the DC thing, and I didn't realize he I guess

844
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: he wasn't there. Am I right with that?

845
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: Or right?

846
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: He's only there for select ESPN shows so not the paper.

847
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: Oh I got You're right though, that coach's perspective is

848
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: only a part of it, Kenny. The other thing is

849
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 5: that when you're on a headset and you're not charged

850
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: with providing wall to wall commentary, and you can just

851
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 5: pick your moments to chime in. You can ingest everything

852
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: flow that's happening around you. You're not dealing with television

853
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: producers and replays and all of the things that we're

854
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 5: dealing with, And I think that helps him maximize those

855
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 5: minutes one hundred percent.

856
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 4: What I wanted to ask.

857
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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to see the earlier fights, but were

858
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: they interviewing the corner in between rounds?

859
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: Was it was that one thing? That's the thing they

860
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 5: tried this time around. Yeah, they do it in boxing.

861
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 5: It was a little bit of an ESPN initiative. Uh,

862
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 5: I'm like that seemed a little hectic. Yeah, Ray, what

863
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: do you think about that?

864
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 4: Ray? What do you think about? Would you talk?

865
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: Would you talk to someone in between while your fight

866
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: fights going on?

867
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Would you talk to someone who's interviewing you.

868
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 6: That's ridiculous exactly to tell you exactly if you can't

869
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 6: stand it, I think it's disruptive. You have to concentrate.

870
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 6: I tried, and I'm so dialed in. I don't want

871
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 6: to start. Yeah, anybody, you know what I mean. I

872
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 6: don't even if I'm talking to Matt, I don't even

873
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 6: look at him. I just I'm talking while I'm looking

874
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 6: at the fight and just mentioning quick things like guys,

875
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk to some well, I don't

876
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 6: want to mic in my face.

877
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: That I find it awkward for NFL coaches at halftime,

878
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: let alone during a fight, like it's it's ridiculous.

879
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and I'm saying you.

880
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 5: Have twelve three minute rounds. It's a totally different sport

881
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: in MMA. It's just like Elliott Marshall was being interviewed

882
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 5: in Corey Sandagan's corner and Christian Allen, who's sitting next

883
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: to him. No fucking way, Christian Allen is doing that

884
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: interview right during a Corey Sandhagan round.

885
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: Right.

886
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: They have worked ten years to build this kid into

887
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 5: the greatest bandam weight in the world. These are precious rounds,

888
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: Like I ain't got time for your microphone.

889
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 6: Plus the guys you notice as well as you. Definitely,

890
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 6: I don't know about anybody, but we all micd up.

891
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 6: Not that they know Sarah needs a mic because I

892
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 6: always have the mic on. You can hear him. You

893
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 6: could hear him over me. He doesn't even have a

894
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 6: mic on, and you have a camera staring you right

895
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 6: in the face, Like what else you want? You know

896
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 6: what I mean. Then, Yet cameras that you could move

897
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 6: all over the place, they do that and they go

898
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 6: into the corner. That's a little different, like you're being

899
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 6: yourself and you're being filmed, you know what I mean.

900
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 6: That's totally different than somebody's sticking a mic in your

901
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 6: face and wanting to talk again. You no good. I

902
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 6: hope I just hope they get rid of it, and

903
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: I hope they don't force anybody to do it, because

904
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 6: that's I don't know, not not a good thing. I

905
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 6: don't see how that benefits anybody.

906
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on n d as an Anthony

907
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: Showtime Pettis.

908
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 6: I loved it, you know, but I think Nathie is

909
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 6: is if you're going to fight this type of fight, man,

910
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 6: it's gonna be hard to beat him, you know what

911
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: I mean. He just he broke down a guy that

912
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 6: had has really good striking. But Nate loves to fight.

913
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 6: He's always you know, he always comes in with the

914
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 6: right attitude, and he's always in shape, and he just

915
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: you know, his ability to withstand punishment and keep throwing

916
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 6: back is just phenomenal, and he's pretty accurate. He's long. Uh,

917
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 6: you know, if there was any questions about who I

918
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 6: bet at jiu jitsu, I think it was answered, uh

919
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 6: and he I don't know, I bet. I'm happy for

920
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 6: the guy.

921
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: I think.

922
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 6: I think he's a real dude. I think even his

923
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 6: cool out of Moscat now was heartfelt. And he respects

924
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: the guy. You know, Like what he says everybody else saw,

925
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 6: he like he means it, you know what I mean.

926
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's not saying everybody does. He's recognizing another badass,

927
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And those are the fights

928
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 6: people want to see. I mean, that's a really tough fight,

929
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 6: you know. So I give him good. I loved it.

930
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 6: I loved it, and I love I like Anthony has nothing.

931
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: To do it.

932
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 6: Well, obviously I liked Lupus and that whole camp, and

933
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 6: they're always gracious. But he did something about a guy

934
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 6: three year way off and you gist, you know, it's

935
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 6: just like he lives to fight that guy. He just

936
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 6: like he embraces it. There's no stress, there's you know,

937
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 6: like I had a guy one time I took him

938
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 6: to a fight. He's sniffling. He didn't want to fight,

939
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like he got a little

940
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 6: cold and then I go, but if you had you know,

941
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: jay Z was playing at the Barkley Center. You're going

942
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 6: with this gold like you're going right because you want

943
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: to see that if you wanted to really fight, you're fighting,

944
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 6: you know, nothing stopping. You're like, it would have to

945
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: be really bad, you know what I mean. So Nate

946
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 6: is that guy. He just he loves it. I believe

947
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 6: him and Nick love it. I think you know why

948
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 6: Quinton loves it. I think mos del love the guys

949
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 6: that will fighters fighters man, and these are the guys

950
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 6: man that go in there and they throw it on

951
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: the line and done. Not really They're just gonna go

952
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 6: in and fight, not really concerned with the winner loss. Obviously,

953
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 6: everybody wants to win, but they enjoyed the process more

954
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 6: than anybody.

955
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 5: All Right, last thing, we got about sixty seconds in

956
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 5: terms of where Stepe goes from here. He is thirty

957
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 5: seven years old as of today, by the way, so

958
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: happy birthday to step A. But I would love to

959
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: see him get a couple more big paychecks and sort

960
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: of slide out of this thing. Right, his legacy really

961
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 5: holds up after he avenges this Cormier loss. I think

962
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: it's probably going to be a rematch with Francis and Gano,

963
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 5: or a trilogy with DC. Maybe an outside chance that

964
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: they do the John Jones fight for stepe A. But

965
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 5: you know this guy personally, I mean, you don't want

966
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: to see him take too many big shots for years,

967
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: right might.

968
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 6: I think he's he's got a great life in Ohio.

969
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 6: He's got an awesome wife, he just had a kid.

970
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got things right where he wants to be.

971
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 6: Like again, he's a blue collar guy. He's not the

972
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 6: guy he's gonna buy, you know, start buying Bentley's and

973
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 6: lose his money and you know, acting stupid. This is

974
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 6: a good dude, man. This is a grassroots, soul for

975
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 6: the earth type of guy. I say, whatever benefits is

976
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 6: his health and the long run and his family. That's

977
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 6: the route I'm picking for this guy because I think

978
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 6: he deserves it. He's going to go down as the

979
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 6: greatest heavy weight right now, He's got nothing to prove.

980
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 6: This was a huge win for him, and I want

981
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 6: to see him healthy and happy with his family. Lee.

982
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: Personally, yeah, I agree, all right, man, you like I did.

983
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 6: That's a crazy division, John, So you gotta be careful.

984
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 6: But you know, he's a competitor, so we'll see what happen.

985
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 5: Is all right, buddy, appreciate your insights, your homework. For

986
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 5: next week, we'd like to have Aljamain Sterling as part

987
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 5: of the Ray Longo Minute, because I got a lot

988
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 5: of questions for that guy and they're spending a lot

989
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 5: of time triple see.

990
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: This weekend, I got my Sahudo film.

991
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 6: Hey, how long did that take? Ten seconds? How long

992
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 6: did it take? Seriously, how long does it take to

993
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 6: get you filmed with that guy? You don't have to say,

994
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 6: because you see him all the time.

995
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't have to say, because we gotta go. We

996
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: gotta go right between.

997
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 6: Five and twenty seconds. I'm guessing Kenny. I love the guys,

998
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 6: he's I think he's just seah. I love the transgender thing.

999
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 6: I think the guys awesome. But yeah, let's walk with

1000
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 6: altr There's a lot of unknowns with that crazy We'll.

1001
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 5: Talk next week, and I believe it's intergender if I'm

1002
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: not mistaken.

1003
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 6: Oh god, you're so politically correct.

1004
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 5: You.

1005
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: That's you.

1006
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 5: You enjoy New York and we will see you. We

1007
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 5: will see you shortly, and we'll talk to you next Monday. Buddy,

1008
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: Thank you all right, take it eat together.

1009
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Ray is very long ago.

1010
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 5: Every week here on the Anakin Florian podcast, can flow

1011
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 5: Polo Costa Uel Romero unanimous decision for Costa. Again you

1012
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 5: throw out the commentator scorecard, but I did think he

1013
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 5: did enough to win the first two rounds, and I

1014
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: thought Costa won the fight. Even if you didn't think

1015
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 5: that Costa won the fight, I do like in a

1016
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 5: close fight too Longo's point to see the fighter who

1017
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: advances get rewarded when it's hard to score rounds, and

1018
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 5: Romero advanced thirteen percent of the time, it was like

1019
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 5: forty eight percent for Paolo Costa. Any thoughts on on

1020
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: that epic fight, the scorecards or anything else, You know.

1021
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: Obviously I had picked Romero after watching the fight.

1022
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think that Costa did enough, or at

1023
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: least in the eyes of people watching from cage side.

1024
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: As one of the judges during that time, if you

1025
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: see a guy moving forward, landing shots, stopping takedowns, even

1026
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: if you're kind of missing, you know you're not gonna

1027
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: be able to have the advantage of looking at it

1028
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: on the monitor or seeing the replace. It looked like

1029
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Romero was getting caught and getting overwhelmed at times. I

1030
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: didn't think he was active enough. I didn't think he

1031
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: moved his feet enough. He was backing himself up against

1032
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: the cage like a lot of people would against that

1033
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: kind of pressure from Costa. Costa was just firing away

1034
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: with hard shots repeatedly, not landing so clean all the time.

1035
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: But again, if your cage side looking at that, to me,

1036
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: it looked like Costa won to fight.

1037
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And just can't say enough things in terms of

1038
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 5: the respect for Yoel Romero in defeat, I am truly

1039
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 5: in awe of that man and excited to do to

1040
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 5: see what the twenty eight year old Pala Costa can

1041
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 5: do here moving forward, you can be sure he's going

1042
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 5: to be in Melbourn, whether he's paying his own way

1043
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 5: or otherwise, to be front and center when Robert Whitaker

1044
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 5: fights Israel Ata. Sonya all right, I'm going to shout

1045
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 5: out some other winners on the way out, while also

1046
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 5: telling you that because we do not have a live

1047
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 5: UFC event this weekend, we're going to try to hop

1048
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 5: on Instagram live and sort of continue this UFC two

1049
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: forty one recap at some point later in the week,

1050
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: but I just want to shout out a few guys.

1051
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 5: Sadik Usaf big win over Gabriye Albanitez. I love the

1052
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: fact that he's really going for it and maybe leaning

1053
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: on the entertainment side and not always the technical side,

1054
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 5: and it certainly worked out for him over the weekend.

1055
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: Congrats to him.

1056
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: Real patient effort out of Derek Brunson as he gets

1057
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 5: past Ianhiinish as betting underdog. Real nice call on Brunson,

1058
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: by the way, for Ken flow ad plus one fifty

1059
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: Corey Sandhagen, we don't have time to get into him today.

1060
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 5: We will later in the week, but undeniably a real

1061
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: Banham weight threat. Kama Worthy as a plus six fifty

1062
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 5: underdog becomes the biggest betting underdog to cash in the

1063
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 5: UFC here in twenty nineteen. If you had Kama Worthy

1064
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: against DeVante Smith by round one knockout was a twenty

1065
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 5: to one prop Ken quick thought.

1066
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 4: I've never called you Ken before.

1067
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 5: I don't even know yet that's allowed, But a quick

1068
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 5: thought on Kama Worthy Devonte Smith. Not the fight itself right,

1069
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 5: But for DeVante Smith, he was supposed to fight John Macdesi.

1070
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 5: Then it was Clay Collard. Instead, he fights Kama Worthy,

1071
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: who is his good friend, like they're good buddies. Now,

1072
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 5: they hadn't trained together in a couple of years. But

1073
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 5: if you saw the footage of Devonte Smith on Dana

1074
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: White's Contender series, the guy holding mids for him in

1075
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 5: that b roll is Kama Worthy. And so for Kama

1076
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: coming into the UFC, he had to fight July twenty seven,

1077
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 5: six days ago, he was outside the UFC looking in

1078
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 5: for him to come into the UFC said he never

1079
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 5: would have fought Devontae Smith unless it was to get

1080
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 5: into the UFC. That would have been the only way

1081
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 5: he would have fought him, right, But his UFC jitters

1082
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: were kind of tabled a little bit because he's staring

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Speaker 5: across at a very familiar face. And I think that

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00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 5: worked for Worthy. But for Devonte Smith, the guy who's

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Speaker 5: really been sort of propped up by the UFC, this

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00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: fight had a lot of risk despite what the betting

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Speaker 5: odds suggested.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think he kind of did himself a disservice by

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Speaker 5: just being willing to take on all comers, and sometimes

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Speaker 5: you need to be willing as a fighter. Even though

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Speaker 5: you've put in a training camp to say, you know what,

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00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 5: the guys that I'm ready to go against aren't here.

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Speaker 5: I just the risk reward I didn't think was there

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Speaker 5: for Devonte Smith, and he really paid dearly for the

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Speaker 5: decision to take this fight against.

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Speaker 1: His buddy without a doubtlessen Having the proper mindset is

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00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: critical to success in mixed martial arts. And if you

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Speaker 1: have something like that on the in the back of

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Speaker 1: your mind, where you know you're going to fight a friend,

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00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: a guy who was helped you train for a lot

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00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: of fights, that's a fucked up.

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Speaker 4: Place to be.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and I'm sorry, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's there's a piece of the people who put the

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00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: fights together in the UFC sometimes where they get off

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00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: seeing these kind of things, like I feel like a

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00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: lot of times they want to see teammates facing each other.

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Speaker 1: They want they I hate it because again, if two

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Speaker 1: guys don't really want to fight each other, you're not

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00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna get the best fight. There's a ton of other

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Speaker 1: people in the division. Why does it have to be

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00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: those two guys, or just push the fight to get

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Speaker 1: another fight, have them fight on another card or another event.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not the easiest thing to do, and

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Speaker 1: maybe not everyone's available, but at the same time, man,

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Speaker 1: I do feel like, you know, there's this part, or

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Speaker 1: there's this element where people in the organization kind of

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00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: get off on seeing two friends fight and it kind

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Speaker 1: of sucks.

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Speaker 4: It's a shitty place to be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have liked to have seen Devontae Smith

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Speaker 5: maybe turned around in a few weeks, and I think

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00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 5: they just want to preserve his slot on the card.

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Speaker 5: But now this is gonna be something that is going

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Speaker 5: to set him back for a little bit and we'll

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Speaker 5: see how it goes. You know, if he had won

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Speaker 5: this fight, he was probably looking at a top fifteen,

1129
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Speaker 5: if not top twenty type opponent.

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Speaker 4: And now we'll see what Kama Worthy can do.

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 5: But when you start to get to know some of

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00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 5: these guys, like we got to know Kama Worthy to

1133
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 5: see how long it took him to get to the UFC.

1134
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: He's got a little baby girl, Marley, it's eleven months old,

1135
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 5: and to get a fifty thousand dollars bonus and a

1136
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 5: win like this truly what dreams are made of and

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Speaker 5: a complete life and game changer. So congratulations to the

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Speaker 5: death Star, Comma Worthy on a big winn and congrats

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Speaker 5: to the UFC on a big show this weekend.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back with you in less than a week.

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Speaker 4: We will recap, No, we won't have anything to recap.

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Speaker 5: So we'll do picks actually for the UFC fight night

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Speaker 5: in shen Chen, China and the main event for the

1144
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Speaker 5: Charlie title between Jessica andraj and Jong Waye Lee.

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