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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: California's battle to redraw its congressional maps is headed to

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Speaker 3: the state Supreme Court. California Republicans call Governor Newsom's plan unconstitutional.

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Speaker 3: Newsom insists California is only responding to what is happening

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Speaker 3: in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna work. Yeah, what's gonna work?

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Speaker 4: His response will what he's trying to do in California,

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Speaker 4: which I don't think he'll be able to do, will

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Speaker 4: look like a response to the awful thing Texas is

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Speaker 4: doing because of the way the mainstream media is going

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Speaker 4: to cover it.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, yeah, work on that level, I'm going to say,

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Speaker 2: because he's not going to get that passed in California. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: but he will come across as the brain warrior for

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Speaker 2: stem values. Correct And what is the sound of very

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Speaker 2: few hands clapping? The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters. According

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Speaker 2: to the Liberal New York Times, the Democratic Party faces

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Speaker 2: a voter registration crisis.

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Speaker 4: So this is a big splashy front page story today

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Speaker 4: in the New York Times. It is their lead story.

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Speaker 2: And has the companion story with it, five takeaways from

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Speaker 2: the Times analysis of democratic decline. And I'm wondering, why

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Speaker 2: aren't the five takeaways in the main story. Why there

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Speaker 2: got to be two stories.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that they're using words like hemorrhaging and disaster.

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Speaker 4: So I flip on Stampede, I flip on Morning Joe

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Speaker 4: MSNBC or ms now or whatever it is today ms now,

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Speaker 4: And they led with another one of those Republican town

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Speaker 4: halls where the Democrats show up and scream at the

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Speaker 4: scream at the person, and they portray it is all

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Speaker 4: across America. Republicans are on the back foot and this

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Speaker 4: and that, and I thought, well, and they went on,

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Speaker 4: and I thought, aren't we involved in a war in Ukraine? Like?

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Speaker 2: Why is this your lead story? Now?

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Speaker 4: I know they had to for their crowd, and everybody

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Speaker 4: in DC that's a Democrat watches that show. They had

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Speaker 4: to for that crowd have a response to this New

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Speaker 4: York Times story because this is such a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Interestingly, it that what you just mentioned reinforces to

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Speaker 2: me what I think the greater narrative is, and that

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Speaker 2: is that people perceive the Democratic Party to be a

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Speaker 2: few very loud people who believe things I don't believe

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Speaker 2: at all. Right, and the town halls is a number

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Speaker 2: of people who are willing to bellow and shout down speakers.

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Speaker 2: You know why that narrative is out there? Why do

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Speaker 2: you suppose? Yeah, no kidding. So some facts and then

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Speaker 2: we can continue the discussion that Democratic Party is. The

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters long before they even go

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Speaker 2: to the polls. Of the thirty states the track voter

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Speaker 2: registration by political party. The other twenty don't ask your

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Speaker 2: party when you're register. But if the thirty that do.

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Speaker 2: Democrats lost ground to Republicans in every single one between

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty and twenty twenty four elections,

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Speaker 2: and often by a lot. That four year swing toward

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Speaker 2: Republicans adds up to four and a half million voters,

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Speaker 2: a deep political hole that could take years for Democrats

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Speaker 2: to climb out from the stampede. So it's a hemorrhaging stampede,

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Speaker 2: good lord. The stampede away from the Democratic Party is

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Speaker 2: incurring in battleground states. The bluest states, and the reddest states,

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Speaker 2: according to a new analysis of voter registration data by

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Speaker 2: The New York Times. I'm surprised it must be the

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Speaker 4: The online world Twitter, TikTok and that, because I'm surprised

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Speaker 4: that a John Fetterman or whoever, who's more of a mainstream,

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Speaker 4: normal human being, but a Democrat hasn't been able to

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Speaker 4: stand up and shout down that very small, very out

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's been a slow recognition process because

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Speaker 2: a lot of us on the right or just confused

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Speaker 2: moderate folks or whomever, have taken a while to realize,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's not a huge majority of people

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Speaker 2: that believes boys should be able to whoop up on

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Speaker 2: girls in girls' sports. It's practically nobody around here. Everybody

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Speaker 2: who's convinced that. You had to think that, and everybody

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Speaker 2: was afraid to say something. So, if you know, conservative

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Speaker 2: Democrats to recognize that in themselves and say, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: the people we really need to stand up against to

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Speaker 2: win election. It's not the evil orange guy. And it's

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Speaker 2: not the mean, cruel Republicans who are trying to redistrict Texas.

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Speaker 2: It's our own lunatics. Here's some more facts. Few measurements

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Speaker 2: reflect the luster of a political party's brand more clearly

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Speaker 2: than the voters the choice by voters to identify with it.

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Speaker 2: Fewer and fewer Americans choosing to be Democrats. More new

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Speaker 2: voters nationwide chose to be Republicans than Democrats last year.

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Speaker 2: It's the first time that's happened since twenty eighteen. Democrats

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Speaker 2: actually still outnumber Republicans registered nationwide, but that is in

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Speaker 2: large measure because giant blue states like California allow people

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Speaker 4: They only caveat I would throw into this story is

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Speaker 4: that both parties are much smaller than they used to

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Speaker 4: be because there are so many people that don't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, final note on this then I want to

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Speaker 2: jump over to the five takeaways because they are pretty interesting,

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Speaker 2: says an election analysis site head Michael Pruser. Who you

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Speaker 2: know if you're in politics in DC, He said, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say the death cycle of the Democratic

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Speaker 2: Party but there seems to be no end to this.

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Speaker 2: There's no silver lining or cavalry coming across the hill.

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Speaker 2: This is month after month, year after year. It's an

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Speaker 2: unbroken trend line according to these people.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well that that's true till it's not. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 4: that's true looking backwards. But just somebody could emerge and say,

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Speaker 4: as a Democrat, we gotta get control of our borders,

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Speaker 4: and dudes can't be in a girls' sports and you know,

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Speaker 4: in a couple other things.

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Speaker 2: There'd be all the like.

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Speaker 4: Ninety percent of regular Democrats and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: people that are uncomfortable with Trump that would join onto

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bloke running for governor in Iowa. I

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Speaker 2: don't recall his name, but he's he might as well

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Speaker 2: be a Republican. He's running as a Democrat for some reason,

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Speaker 2: but he's again, he might as well be a if

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Speaker 2: you know, if they can get you know, the momentum

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Speaker 2: around that sort of democrat, all of these numbers will

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Speaker 2: change very quickly. But I found this very interesting. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: here are five big takeaways.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I will interpret the last time before you do this,

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Speaker 4: come here. If you're old One advantage of being old

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Speaker 4: is you have seen both parties declared dead a handful

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Speaker 4: of times, yes, and then like a cycle or two later,

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Speaker 4: and they've been disappointed to find out that, like you know,

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Speaker 4: Frankenstein's Monster, they have risen from the grave, and then

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Speaker 4: they control all three branches, like within a cycle or two.

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Speaker 2: So here are your five big takeaways. Democrats are losing

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Speaker 2: ground with new voters. Some of the decline was voter

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Speaker 2: switching parties, some was older Democrats died or people who

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Speaker 2: But one of the more striking findings is the trend

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Speaker 2: among newly registered voters from the Democratic Party. In the

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Speaker 2: last six years, many voters choosing to be political independence

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Speaker 2: by not registering with either, but of the people who

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Speaker 2: do choose between the two main parties, this is new

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Speaker 2: voters young voters. The Democratic share has been cratering. According

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Speaker 2: to the analysis. In twenty eighteen, sixty three percent of

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Speaker 2: new voters were Democrats sixty thirty percent last year was

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Speaker 2: forty eight percent. That is cratering. Battleground states are swinging

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Speaker 2: four elections, dem Party lost its long held registration edge

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Speaker 2: in states such as Florida and New Hampshire. Uh that

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Speaker 2: means registered Republicans now outnumber registered Democrats in those states.

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Speaker 4: You realize you tried to run a mummy, and then

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Speaker 4: when people caught on the fact that you had a mummy,

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Speaker 4: come and put in an idiot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a bad look. With all

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Speaker 2: due respect to six foot four inch fully intact males

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Speaker 2: saying a woman and the university saying that's a woman,

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Speaker 2: which struck like ninety percent of America as effing lunacy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: running a mummy than a moron was really prove. It's

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Speaker 2: a good point, Jack. So if the current trend holds,

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Speaker 2: more states will similarly flip to those I mentioned. Nevada

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Speaker 2: briefly tipped into the Republican column this year, it's been

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Speaker 2: sea sawing in the months since. It's very very close.

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Speaker 2: Simply put, the Democratic edge in the swing states has

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Speaker 2: been vanishing. Five point three percent gone in Pennsylvania, three

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Speaker 2: a half percent gone in Nevada. In Arizona, the only

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty the GOP advantage has swelled by four percentage

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Speaker 2: points in twenty twenty four. There's more. The gender gap

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Speaker 2: is a growing problem for Democrats. Women have tended to

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Speaker 2: support Democrats at higher rates. Men have backed Republicans by

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Speaker 2: similar margins in the past, but the analysis the registration

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Speaker 2: data tells different story. Long story short, Republican strength among

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Speaker 2: men far outpaces the Democratic edge among women. Did I

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Speaker 2: mention this.

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Speaker 4: I know a woman I was talking to the other

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Speaker 4: day who's hardcore. I mean, she she knows this would

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Speaker 4: never happen, but she says, you know, would fix everything

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Speaker 4: if they took away our right to vote. Women are

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Speaker 4: the whole problem, she said, We're the whole problem, a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of emotional nut jobs that are causing all

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Speaker 2: I would She's never met women with that broad a brush. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: it is unquestionable, according to all voting data that exists,

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Speaker 2: that women in general tend toward more socialist policies and

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Speaker 2: less self reliance and that sort of thing. They uniformly,

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Speaker 2: not uniformly, in enormous numbers, vote for more government, more programs,

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Speaker 2: more spending. That is undeniable. If that leads you to

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Speaker 2: the conclusion your friend came to, it's an interesting conclusion.

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Speaker 2: I would not say those words out loud. It would

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Speaker 2: change the face of the Sorry, sweetheart. It would change

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Speaker 2: the face of the electorate and the government in a very,

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Speaker 2: very u in a much better way. Yes, Uh, WHOA

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Speaker 2: moving along? More younger voters are voting for our opting

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Speaker 2: for the GOP. The numbers look terrible for Democrats. Among

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Speaker 2: younger voters, people under forty five years old accounted for

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Speaker 2: sixty five percent of new registrations in the last seven years,

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Speaker 2: two thirds, and a once sizable Democratic edge among those

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Speaker 2: new younger voters has disappeared entirely. In twenty eighteen, those youngsters,

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Speaker 2: two thirds of them went Democrat. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: Republicans had an outright majority in new young voters a

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Speaker 2: couple more. Uh. It isn't getting any better for Democrats yet.

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Speaker 2: There's been some hope in Democratic circles that the movement

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Speaker 2: away from the party will reverse itself now that Trump

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Speaker 2: is back in the White House, a backlash to his

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Speaker 2: orange hitlerisms will show up on the registration rolls, but

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Speaker 2: it has not happened. And though it's still pretty early

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Speaker 2: across thirty states. In DC, there are now roughly one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand fewer registered Democrats than election day

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Speaker 2: last year, and two hundred thousand more Republicans. Again, just

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Speaker 2: since election Day, one hundred and sixty thousand fewer Democrats

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Speaker 2: and two hundred thousand more Republicans. Wow, And that story

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Speaker 2: would be even bleaker for Democrats if New York and New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: which just held robust Democratic primaries for mayor and governor

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Speaker 2: that probably increased registrations, were excluded. Outside those two states,

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Speaker 2: Democrats are down roughly four hundred and thirty thousand registered

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Speaker 2: voters since November. Doldrums need a leader deep in sucitude.

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Speaker 2: They really do need a leader to emerge, an identity

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Speaker 2: to emerge. What are you people?

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Speaker 4: There's some giant political news around what Elon Musk wants

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Speaker 4: out of the American electorate, but we could get Yes,

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Speaker 4: are functioning families out there. Yeah, it bothers them that

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Speaker 4: sometimes we got it. If things are fine, I'm okay,

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Speaker 4: I don't need your help. They hate that.

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Speaker 2: In a way, yes, because nothing makes them feel better

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Speaker 2: than helping. I just feel like to go back to

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Speaker 2: the great C. S. Lewis quote about the worst sort

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's been more prevalent of people

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Speaker 4: I've known that were super progressive, that nobody's actually happily married.

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Speaker 4: That's no, they're all faking it or lying or you know,

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Speaker 4: there are no families that are okay just And I've

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Speaker 2: That it's so weird. Why do you have that view

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Speaker 2: of the world.

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Speaker 4: So and if you have that view of the world,

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Speaker 2: So, getting back to J. D. Pitt, Pritzker signing men

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Speaker 2: And actually, Abigail Schreyer mentions, if basic literacy hadn't already

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Speaker 2: Go just hate this story you brought us, Yeah, sorry

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Speaker 2: about that, So, Abigail writes, I've spoken one hundreds of

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Speaker 2: parents of such kids. In twenty twenty four, I published

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Speaker 2: Bad Therapy and An Investigation into the surgeon adolescent mental

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Speaker 2: health diagnoses and psychiatric prescription drug use. Many young people

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Speaker 2: without serious mental illness nonetheless spend years languishing with a diagnosis,

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Speaker 2: alternately cursing it and embracing it, believing they have a brain,

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Speaker 2: convincing themselves that their struggles are insurmountable because of the

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Speaker 2: disorder's constraints. They meet regularly with a therapist or school counselor,

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Speaker 2: on whom they become increasingly reliant, losing a sense of

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Speaker 2: efficacy onable to navigate on their own even minor setbacks

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Speaker 2: in interpersonal conflicts. They begin courses of anti depressants that

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Speaker 2: carry all kinds of side effects, suppressed libido, fatigue, muffling

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Speaker 2: of all emotion, and even an increase in depression. Anti

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Speaker 2: anxiety drugs and stimulants given the kids diagnosed with ADHD

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Speaker 2: are both addictive and ubiquitously abused, and often that tragic

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Speaker 2: dissent begins with a simple mental health survey. Then she

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Speaker 2: tells the story of her son, and this is maybe

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Speaker 2: the key takeaway. If you haven't spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: time around kids. You don't know this. Kids are wildly suggestible,

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Speaker 2: especially where psychiatric symptoms are concerned. As a kid repeatedly

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Speaker 2: if he might be depressed, how about now are you sure?

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Speaker 2: And he might just decide that he is. Introduce gender

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Speaker 2: dysphorty into a peer group, and a swath of seventh

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Speaker 2: grade girls are likely to decide they were born in

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Speaker 2: the wrong body. Introduced testing anxiety or social phobia or

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Speaker 2: suicidality to them, and many teams are likely to decide

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Speaker 2: I have that too. There is a reason clinicians keep

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Speaker 2: anorexia patients from socializing unsupervised in the hospital. Ward anorexia

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Speaker 2: is a profoundly socially contagious mental illness.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that is uh, I think obviously true and so troubling. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: testing anxiety is a great example. I mean they, I

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Speaker 4: think they talk about that in classes openly all the

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Speaker 4: time now, and they you know, if everybody gets a

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Speaker 4: free pass, yeah, and then of course, I mean who

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Speaker 4: who doesn't get anxious when you've got to test anybody?

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Speaker 2: One more? Note in do you want to squeeze it

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Speaker 2: in an hour after the break, it's the guy who

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Speaker 2: writes the Giant Psychiatric Bible, The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual

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Speaker 2: of Mental Disorders for the edition. I'll just do it

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Speaker 2: real quick now, he says, mandatory school Mandatory school screenings

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Speaker 2: of kids for mental illness is great in theory and

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Speaker 2: terrible in practice. Yeah, most kids who screen positive will

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Speaker 2: have transient problems, not mental disorders. Mislabeling stigmatizes and subjects

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Speaker 2: them to unnecessary treatments while misdirecting very scarce resources away

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Speaker 2: from kids who desperately need them. Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: Then you've got the added problem of some parents, I'm

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Speaker 4: definitely not this who love the idea of having a

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Speaker 4: kid who has some sort of special problem to get

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Speaker 4: to talk about and then everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, us in centrol and it's various variations.

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Speaker 4: That's brutally You have any thoughts on in this textas

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Speaker 4: four one five two KFTC.

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Speaker 5: The Princeton Review, recently named Syracuse University of America's number

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Speaker 5: one party school, said people at Syracuse this is a school.

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Speaker 2: Consumer.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, so my son got My thirteen year old

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Speaker 4: got braces yesterday, and I was wondering what percentage of

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Speaker 4: kids get braces in the modern world. As we decided

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Speaker 4: at some point that everybody needs to have perfectly straight

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Speaker 4: teeth and they need to be as bright as the

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Speaker 4: sun in terms of whiteness. Yes, that's what we decided.

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Speaker 4: It's if you watch a movie from the nineties, all

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Speaker 4: the actors like not bright white teeth are just kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, John Travolta's got kind of yellowish teeth,

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Speaker 4: like people.

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Speaker 2: Have normal colored teeth. Yeah, it's striking, and I love this.

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Speaker 2: This is my favorite aspect of modern movies. If the

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Speaker 2: you got a movie it's a Western, it's set in

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Speaker 2: eighteen forty, and you got a character who's a town

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Speaker 2: drunk who's dying of consumption. He's still got gleaming white teeth. Right.

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Speaker 4: About seventy percent of kids in the US currently get

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Speaker 4: some sort of orthodonic treatment, braces being the number one,

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Speaker 4: and at least a third or only a third truly

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Speaker 4: need braces in the traditional sense, like it would be

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Speaker 4: a quality of life situation if you didn't get your

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Speaker 4: teeth straightened out. It's cosmetic in other words, for two

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Speaker 4: thirds of them, which you know, if we've decided, you know,

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Speaker 4: I had a person really berating me for the fact

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Speaker 4: that I hadn't got my son braces yet yet, if

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Speaker 4: we've decided that you gotta have straight teeth, is that

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Speaker 4: kind of like we use the example of the cracked

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Speaker 4: phone screen, that's like the modern day missing tooth, and

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Speaker 4: that's because nobody's missing teeth anymore.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, are you are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you really setting yourself aside as you can't be

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Speaker 4: part of even mid level or above society if you

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Speaker 4: didn't get your teeth straightened.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it's like out there. I have

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Speaker 4: straight teeth just naturally, so I don't know what it

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Speaker 4: would be like. I don't know how self conscious I

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Speaker 4: would be. Lots of people had crooked teeth when I

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Speaker 4: was younger, but like every kid has braces. And also socioeconomically,

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Speaker 4: depending on your you know, your social strata, the higher

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Speaker 4: you go up the income, the more. It's like one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent of the kids get bracest for even mildly

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Speaker 4: crooked teeth, according to this article, hence the social pressure. Sure, right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of self reinforcing. I'll be in Britain

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Speaker 4: next week, so boy, well that'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's, it's it's it is interesting that that is,

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Speaker 1: it's not uniformly a Western society thing, and I mean

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Speaker 1: United States that leads the way in like needing to

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Speaker 1: have perfectly straight teeth for cosmetic reasons.

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Speaker 4: And it's expensive and painful, but yet we do it,

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Speaker 4: and I just find it interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, we did it. I'm doing it. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a conundrum. I mean, if you were a real activist,

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Speaker 2: you'd say, all right, this is an artificially imposed social norm,

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Speaker 2: a status Norman eminence front is Pete Townsend who just

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Speaker 2: turned eighty, of the who Pete Townsend of the who

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Speaker 2: is eighty? Good lord anyway as he would put it.

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Speaker 2: But if indeed it is a barrier to achievement, acceptance

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Speaker 2: stating whatever relationships? Yeah, and are you gonna die on

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Speaker 2: that hill? As people like to say, far as you can?

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Speaker 4: And it's not even that. Am I gonna have my

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Speaker 4: kid die on that hill? Because it's not me who's

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Speaker 4: who's living with it? Right, So that's what every parent

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Speaker 4: is dealing with. But it's expensive, man, I'm shocked by

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Speaker 4: the price. Are you a baseball fan and I love

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Speaker 4: the baseball? Have you heard the new challenge? The viral trend?

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Speaker 2: He says, rolling his eyes, nine beers, and nine hot

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Speaker 2: dogs in nine innings.

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Speaker 4: Oh if I was younger, I'm all over that challenge.

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Speaker 2: Oh what a day? What? Oh I yes, we got

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Speaker 2: to talk more about that.

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Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty