WEBVTT - Run It Back (“Bad Reputation” S1 E17) 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:05.200 And That's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:11.160 an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to and That's what you really missed. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:17.120 I'm Jenna, I am Kevin, and today we are recapping 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:25.079 Glee episode seventeen, season one, called Bad Reputation. This was 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.760 an interesting one. You know. This was one of those 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:35.040 ones where Jenna and I were dreading it because initially 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.879 when we watched it back in the day, we were 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.159 all sitting I remember sitting there and being like, hm, oh, 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.680 there's an overwhelming question. Bryan screened this one for us. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.080 Somebody screened this one for just the cast in the 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:55.600 editing bay, right, yes, yes, And I remember seeing it 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.760 and we were all like jarred by it. I think 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.280 number one because all the songs are bad right there, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.800 This is like a given that these songs are bad 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.119 and we're trying to kind of revive them in some way. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:17.480 But also because the scoring of this, because of like 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.640 the glist, it felt like a murder mystery and we're like, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.280 this is egree right, And I remember being so committed 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.080 and like upset that it wasn't what we are used 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.200 to seeing. But watching it back last night, I was like, oh, 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.480 I get this yeah, okay, good because I had this 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.720 exact same feeling, and it felt like Acafella's in a 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:43.320 way where we were so young and dumb and we're 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:48.320 very protective of a brand that we did not understand ourselves, right, Like, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.520 we didn't create this show. We were not in charge 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.320 of anything creatively. It was our job to do what's 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.040 written and perform the songs. And it is so funny 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.120 now thinking back about how we were sort of like bummed, like, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.320 oh man, this one's not great. I loved it watching 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.119 it last night, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.519 Maybe I loved it's a strong word. Enjoyed it was Yeah, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.800 it's the word. Okay, Yeah, okay, great, all right, well 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.280 let's um let's get into the top of this um. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:23.560 It originally aired on May fourth, May the fourth View 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:29.600 with You twenty ten and also with You the Okay, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.360 what was going on in the World? Number one song 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:40.560 was omgum and before it was nothing on you Okay, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.960 what was going on in the Glean News Kevin. On 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.560 May fifth, Glee won a Television with a Conscience Award 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.119 at the third Annual Television Academy Honors for our very 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:57.200 own episode Wheels and Corey, Chris and myself accepted the 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:03.400 award at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills. To 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:08.919 remember if I don't know if I remember it, because 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.760 Paris and I went to several things, and I don't 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.720 know if I believe this is probably it my experience 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.160 if this was the event where we got to meet 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.359 a lot of so many parents came up to me 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.320 to talk about their their children who were in wheelchairs, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.799 or or friends with parents who had kids in wheelchairs, 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.920 who didn't watch a lot of TV before Glee, weren't 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.080 interested in a lot of pop culture things, and the 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:42.240 overwhelming sense was and I did not necessarily expect this, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.960 but because they were actually coming up to me and 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.120 sort of thinking wanted me to portray, like back to 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.440 Ryan Brad and Ian that they were thankful for the 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.480 show and thankful to have a character like already on it, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:02.440 because these kids were so excited and being feeling represented 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.080 yeah and seeing And that's when I think, also it 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.880 hit me to where, you know, especially in twenty twenty 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.960 three terms, when you talked about me, who is not 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.880 in a wheelchair playing character who is in a wheelchair, right, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.960 and you know now we know better, But back then 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.080 it was sort of it went from oh, I got 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.600 this job, let me figure out how to do it 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:27.680 properly too. I am so happy to be given a 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.880 position or a character that means so much more to people, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.120 and just that the character exists period. Now we know 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.000 that just having a character exist period is the bare 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.279 minimum and not necessarily enough. Like let's see a bow 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:51.280 rounded full person, right, This was the preamble to really matters. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.320 It was and you and you even see then when 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.160 you have someone who shouldn't be playing the character playing 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.760 characters in a wheelchair, and parents and kids were still 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.279 so appreciative of it because it's like you're not being 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.240 fed anything, so you get a morsel and you're so 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.320 thankful for it. And it was one of those things 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.320 where it felt good. And now looking back at it, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.359 it's like, oh, well, we can as a collective dude 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.800 a lot better. Yeah, ours, we know better now, so uh. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.600 In May eighth, twenty ten, The castoically was featured on 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.520 the cover of Billboard magazine. I have no recollection of this, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.080 so I went back and I booked. And it's because 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.839 we didn't pose for it. They actually just took promo 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.000 photos and piled us on in with some of the 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.479 artists that we had already covered, like Madonna and You'll 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.599 Diamond all these that that sort of Sergeant Pepper's looking yeah, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.320 that's right, which was so cool and really was that 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:44.839 was that felt like a really big thing to me, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.599 obviously coming from the real music, right, but speaking, I 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.360 know we just did um the recap of Home, but 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.040 you talking about us rehearsing for tour. I remember, um 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.919 Amber came in. It was supposed to be on vocalist. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.480 Do you remember this? And it was sort of crazy 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.520 because like Amber has the most perfect but it's like 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.280 her and Leah were like, you guys take care of 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.800 your voices better than the rest of us sort of thing, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.200 and like you guys should always be fine. And she 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.360 came in she's like, well, I'm supposed be in vocalarest, like, well, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.400 what one? Why are you talking now? Right? And then 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.800 there's a picture of it where she's sitting at crosslegged 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.159 on the stage on the floor, and it got to 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.840 where she's supposed to rehearse beautiful that she's sang in 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:35.400 Home and she's sitting there and We're like, don't sing 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.040 an Amber, save your voice, and she does the most 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:44.440 perfect rendition, didn't miss a note, did all the runs. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.000 Sitting there, and I went from being mad like, oh 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.240 my god, this is so irresponsible to being mad that, 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.000 oh my god, this is so so good and she 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.839 has something wrong with her voice and she's still that 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:00.600 good oh gosh, I mean voice. It was really living there. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.560 Oh gosh, that was a really fun time. I guess 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.880 we can. Should we talk about that tour when we 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.120 get there? I guess at the end of this we should. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.240 And I would have to read. I would have to 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.520 go back and watch YouTube videos because I clearly don't 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.960 remember in the numbers that we did and there are 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:21.360 there are some bootlegs first tour. I might have to 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.240 watch it. We might have to watch that, Kevin, let's 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.280 do that all right? Cool? This episode was directed by 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.840 Ladie Keane. She had done what two three episodes at 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.080 this point, yeah, and back again, back again, and I 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.160 think back then I was like blaming her for this episode, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.840 but like, she did what she was supposed to do. Um. 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.680 We had some great guest stars. Steven Tablowski's back in 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:52.280 his ridiculous run Joey run Um, Robin Trackey and the 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.520 Sweet Sweet Robin and John Grove of course, who is 0:07:55.760 --> 0:08:01.080 at um McKinley right now? And um Superstar Molly Shannon. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.680 Did you were you a fan of Molly Shannon? Of 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.760 course I had, but I also did not know she 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.200 was going to be in this episode. Oh, I had heard, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.640 and so I was waiting for her to come to set. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.160 I was excited. Did you meet her? I did meet her, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:21.480 but I was like, I like, she doesn't know who 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.760 we are. It doesn't matter, like we're peasants, like you know, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.960 we're just dirt on the ground that she watch how 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.240 she nice, so so nice, and like I watched I 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.480 went into watch a scene between her and Jane I 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.480 think it was in the other episode that she did though, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.200 and um in the hallway and I'm like, I remember 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.959 watching her and just like she's ad libbing, She's throwing 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:49.000 crab out there. It was unbelievable to watch her like 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.119 that after you idolize somebody on SNL and like in Superstar, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.400 like so much. There's just so many like repeatable lines 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.280 and memorable things about her. So um she comes. Yeah, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.040 so she's in dream on as well, I'm so president 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:08.560 meet her. You're like, yes, yes, I mean I also 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.920 talk about like making a feast out of I mean 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.840 she didn't have much to do and she was still 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.960 just just gnawing, gnawing at the curtains, you know what, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.280 good for her, That's why she's a star. Um. And 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:31.520 then we have one Olivia John. I know, so sad um, 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.640 but god, she's beautiful and what a legend um to 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:42.400 have on so did great? Also that number, that number, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.800 and that's how cool. I'm glad we got to talk 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.520 to Jane and for her to share how much she 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.280 loved Olivia Newton. John nicknamed her dog Olivia after her. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.880 But how cool that this show so often we got 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.800 to meet a lot of our heroes. We can talk 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.640 about them we get to Brittany, right, we can't talk 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.599 about that when we get to Brittany, m Olivia and 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.400 John also, um we reference it in Jane's episode of 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.840 the podcast where she talks about how they basically manifested 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.320 it by talking to John Farr Farer Farr, the one 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.720 who wrote most Olivia's stuff, Yeah, and asked if Olivia 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.320 would be on the show, and Jane's like, I don't 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.720 know if that's actually true, that that was the reason why. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.760 But great, I put it on the radar and that 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.040 that matters. Yes. Do you want to know a fun 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:37.960 fact or a weird fact? This? Okay? So in nineteen 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.640 seventy six, John produced Anne wrote the song which was 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:46.080 on Olivia's album called Don't Stop Believing. And she has 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.000 a song called Don't Stop Believing. Yeah. Wow. The album 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:55.319 was called Don't Stop Believing, right and yeah, And that 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:59.199 was five years before the Journey song. He had a 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.160 figure on the Pulse. Yeah. So Olidia and John no 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.920 match made in heaven and knew they knew. It's one 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.760 of those weird synchronistic things. Gosh, I love that. Well. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.720 Speaking of synchronicity, have I ever told you? Have I 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.760 ever shared the never Flee from Glee story on my 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:21.440 on the podcast? I don't know? Okay, Well, I'll do 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.040 it real quick. So I booked when I um, I 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.880 was living my friend Aaron Merman, who was also a 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.679 Swing and Spring Awakening at the time, when I flew 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.320 to LA to test when we met for the first time, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.000 and um I obviously we found out we booked it 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.080 and then I got on the flight and I called her, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.000 and I was like, I got it, and I came 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.720 home and that night her boyfriend, who was also in 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.720 the show at the time, he cracked open a beer. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.679 I think it was a magic hat that had like 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.160 the little fortunes underneath the bottle caps, kind of like 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:58.600 snappled it, and um, it said never Flee from Glee 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.440 on it, And she's like, I saved this because I 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.559 just thought it was so crazy. He was drinking this 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.760 beer while you were on the when we were on 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.680 the phone, and so, um, I have the bottle cap. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.439 She gave it to me, and then my dad made me. Oh, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.880 it was so sweet. They made me a an engraved 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.800 necklace that says never flee from Glee on it. They 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.840 gave me at my going away dinner when I was 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.040 moving to California by the first time. And it's like 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:32.960 one of the only times that I've seen my father cry, oh, yeah, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:37.240 I was crazy wild. That is never fus And you 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.400 haven't here? We are I do? I do? Here we 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.000 are thirty years later, still talking about it. It was 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:48.120 sixty five years ago. It's been eighty four years. Do 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.920 you remember the story of when I tested My dad 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.440 called me and it was while I was at Fox 0:12:55.480 --> 0:13:00.280 testing that he said he was going somewhere in the 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.280 parking lot and there was a license plate that said 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:06.960 Artie on it. What. Yeah, No, he's like I knew, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.320 and he's not this type of person. And he is superstitious, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.559 you know. After he's going to say a little superstitious. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:18.720 He's very superstitious. Bow. Yeah. See, it was meant to be. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.760 I don't know what that means, but it was meant 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.600 to be. We were supposed to be life partners, Jenna. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:39.200 That's we are sixty five years later. Yeah, like we said, um, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.880 thanks for sticking with us. You guys weird. We were 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.720 really trying to hear you guys and what you want 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.120 in these recap episodes. So, um, let us know what 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.400 you think of this one. We're gonna give give it 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:54.600 a whirl. Give it a whirl. Getting into this episode. Okay, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.360 poor Kent Tanaka, this is the end for him by 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.360 Ken Tanaka. Yes, so this is the last appearance, and 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:08.079 it's brief. That's a brief. It's very yeah, exactly. So 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.000 the whole crux of this episode is trying to rehab 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:16.640 not only the characters, you know, things, but some bad 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.840 songs right, and I love that. You know, Physical by 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.640 Livan Newton John is in here, and she was so 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.200 game to do this and sort of poke fun at herself, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.880 which was great and ended up being very visually stimulating. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.480 So I'm appreciative of that. Um. So, the songs in 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:40.400 this episode are Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice, performed 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.720 by Will Schuster and the new directions. Then you Can't 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:50.360 Touch This by mc hammer performed by us you Me, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.280 Kurt Mercedes and Brittany when we stormed the library. Then 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.520 there's Physical with the Living Newton John and Susilvester. There's 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.440 Run Joey Run with Rachel and Finn and Jesse and 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:06.560 Noah Puckerman. And then Total Eclipse of the Heart with 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.400 with Jesse and Finn. I can't wait to talk about 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.600 that one because that one wild. So you know, there's 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.760 there was a question of why wasn't Joan jet in 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.280 the Black Heart song bad Reputation in this episode because 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.080 that's an easy layup. But I don't know, maybe that 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.920 song is not bad enough. You know, these songs were 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:31.880 all questionably like bad, right Yeah, um, all right, So 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:37.760 just a light review before we get into it. Um. Actually, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.880 I liked this one. This came from e W and 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.560 it was the recap of This episode was a Madonna episode. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.360 Sure fun stuff, but an episode that combines a mystery, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.080 a mega meta riff on modern a modern celebrity, a 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.160 purposefully awful series of songs, not one but two high 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.080 concept retro music videos, and some realistic forward motion on 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:04.760 various romantic plotlines. Now we're talking. Yeah, I feel like 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.960 as crazy as this episode was, it gave us everything. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.400 It was all the fun and weirdness of Glee and 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.360 still had all the kids in the storylines happening. It 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:20.360 was a great balance, all right. So there are two 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.880 There are the students reputations and the teacher's reputations in 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.720 this episode that are trying to be reformed in some way. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:31.000 Let's talk about the teachers first. So the teacher's reputations. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.320 Kurt finds a video in Sue's office when he went 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.480 to get her hormone replacements, and the video is Sue 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:45.720 performing Olivia Newton John's hit song Physical in a jazzercise class, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.640 and he shows it to some of the Glee club, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.120 which we get to watch, and they decided that they 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.400 have to post it on YouTube and gives you a 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.760 taste of her own medicine, and of course the video 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:04.120 goes viral and is very humiliated in the teacher's lounge 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.440 where we first meet Molly Shannon. Um did you find 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.880 it interesting that um Finn says we have to put 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.879 this on YouTube? Um so because they convinced themselves right, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.440 that we have to be bad. Like Jesse goes along 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.400 with it, like let's post it, and he says, let's 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.760 post this on YouTube and hope it goes viral. I 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:27.800 was sort of shocked that that term was even there already. Yeah, well, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:33.159 I feel like the viral thing started with I think, oh, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.160 I guess you're right. But like the do you remember 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:40.840 on set around pilot time, YouTube was massive, right. MySpace 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.119 was kind of on its way it was still around 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.399 what it was on its way out, but YouTube and 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.280 we were watching those videos like the one where the 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.359 nine one one call where they're high and he's like, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:55.200 I think I think I'm dead, and the weird wobbles 0:17:55.280 --> 0:18:00.439 of the model walking like we wa wobbles. So I 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.600 remember watching all We were definitely of the Panta sneezing. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:11.600 We're definitely in that time of viral videos. Yea. But yes, yes, yes, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.840 so so she says, what's that smell, dear god, that's coffee. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.160 It's usually masked by a smell of fear. And she's 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.040 doing an inner monologue and Molly Shannon comes in and 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:28.640 she plays, um, what is it Brenda Castle? Yes, I'm 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:33.160 not sure? Are these needs Brenda Castle, who is a teacher. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:38.280 And the laughing of Molly Sharon does, like the extra 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.080 extra that she does is just so right, and she 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.359 fits right into the camp of our show. Especially this episode. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.440 It made me just wish we had eighteen more episodes 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.160 of Molly Shannon because also, what an opportunity for her 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.159 and Jane to like two comedic masters, to go up 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.719 against each other constantly. I smell of spinnel. I mean 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.719 there could has been up for every other character that 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.399 came on the show, you know. I mean They're almost 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:10.320 was a warblar one. Yeah, it's true. So when Sue 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.520 is now faced with all the slow motion laughter and 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.000 humiliation again sort of breaking the fourth wall or being 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.120 meta and talking about what was actually happening, she goes 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:26.600 to visit her sister and gets some advice, and she says, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.080 like when they were living and sad, they would go 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.399 to an animal shelter to give back, and there's always 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.440 someone who has it worse than you do. So now 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.959 Sue has sort of this realization that she needs to 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.960 help people, and so who does she want to help? 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:46.280 Emma Irma, Irma, Elma Ella, whoever it may be. And 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.879 so they go into this scene where they have a 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.920 little one on one which is also really nice, where 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:57.200 she commnces Emma that she needs to by the way, 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.399 I put cameras and and Will's I don't remember this 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.359 at all. By the way, there were a lot of 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.320 suspension of disbelief things happening in this episode, like Kurt 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.880 finding the tape. Yeah, this is where we kick off. 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.919 It's sure, I do think this is maybe like a 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.240 test for them, and it like it worked, so they're like, oh, 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:22.080 we can do anything. So's like, let's remember that going forward, guys, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.760 when we keep writing this. And so she's hidden cameras 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:31.359 and Will Shooter's apartment or house and m and caught 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.080 him with Adena and caught him with Kristen, caught him 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:40.000 with the cast of wicket and has decided to you know, 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.320 spill the beans to Emma and says like, look, you 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.439 need to buck up and call him out in public 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.480 so we can't run away or manipulate you and fight back. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.199 And I liked that she sort of is pushing her 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:55.040 in this scene and is insulting her and she's like, oh, yeah, 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.920 you're right. She's like no, like do something about it, right, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:02.439 And it was actually one breath really nice to see Sue, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.640 you know, help her in this way like tough love, 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:08.960 but also like what are you getting out of what's 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.880 going on? It's always self serving, I know, but with 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.760 with her sister, you never quite know, right with her 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.199 sister and the intention behind you never That's like the 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.280 nice Sue that Jane talks about a lot, I think possibly, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.600 but either way, more importantly, the best scene of the episode, 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.199 I think, or one of the best scenes of the 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:33.040 episode one of um Jama's best performances as Emma, and 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.880 she talks about this in her our interview with her 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.520 on the podcast as well. I just she's so cute 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:44.480 and little, and she says, she goes into the uh, 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.800 the faculty lounge, and Will is talking to um, what 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.640 is the teacher's name, UM, I don't know, sweet old, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.400 I don't know Barbara. So Barbara is talking to Will 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:03.240 about how her husband just died, and oh, Emma says, 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.960 you're a slut. Will, You're a slut. You're a slut, 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.960 You're a slut. I was like, what can we say that? 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.760 Everybody should know that and you should know that I'm 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:18.520 through with you. It was great you and I have 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.200 been waiting for that scene. Yes, yes, and I thought 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.639 it was later. I think everything is later in a 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.360 later season. But I was very happy that it was here. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.479 And I'm sorry for you lost. She says, have you 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.119 ever been in a position where this is like, have 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.119 you've experienced anything like this in real life? Ch happened 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:42.240 to me? Like, like I've had people, even you guys, 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.440 when it's like you're not acting at your best, not 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.080 acting in terms of like performance, I mean being your 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.119 best self. Yeah, and like you need to like buck up, 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.639 like I learned to speak up for myself being around 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.200 I always say all the time, around all the ladies 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.880 in the cast, because you were all very good at that, Like, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.840 do you like I have sort of like interventions? You 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.359 guys had an intervention with me on a plane to 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.080 England when I was I had to be on steroids 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.560 because I was sick. And I was acting insane and 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.240 you were all like, you need to stop stop taking 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:18.280 the steroids because you're being crazy and everybody's noticing, which 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.240 is really nice, and you know, it's what good friends do. 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.040 And it was a nice, like friend moment between Sue 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.600 and Emma. I was just wondering if you because I've 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.080 clearly sure. I'm sure I had some run ins with 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.680 you guys. I mean, I feel like you guys, we've 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:33.439 all done that for each other. I think that's the 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.920 only group, you guys, this crew, who's the only group 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.879 that would actually call me on my stuff? You know, 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.800 have you ever slut shamed somebody? No? I haven't, thank goodness, 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.200 Thank goodness, but this is the best slut shaming I've 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.960 ever seen, because he deserved it. Number one and number two. 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:56.000 To hear Emma say that is courageous and uplifting. I 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.120 do think this was deserved. However, when Artie is slut 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.000 shamed by Sam and a couple seasons, I don't think 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:05.399 that was deserved. Whatever we'll get there, Kevin, did you 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:10.159 notice that Emma's outfit changed but sus didn't, so the 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:14.800 continuity there was something off with that. Yeah, she was 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.720 in the office, she was wearing something different, the butterfly shirt, 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:22.760 and then in the lounge she's wearing the the red, 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.800 white and blue outfit, which I did not notice that 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.480 I do. I don't know if people know this either. 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.480 So when it comes to like planning costumes and things, 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:34.520 people correct me if I'm wrong. But when they plan 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.359 on an episode, they sort of mark down, like realistic, 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.680 what the days are of what we're shooting. Yeah, so 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.360 there's day you know, if this episode takes place within 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.760 a week, there's day one through seven. Ye, and so 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.440 they can keep track of what everybody's wearing, what everybody's 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.760