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Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iHeart women's sports production and partnership

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, welcome back to Full Circle, the women's sports

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Speaker 2: round up you didn't know you needed. I'm Lexi Brown

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Speaker 2: and our girl Mariah is back from Italy. Y'all, our

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Speaker 2: Olympic girl. We're breaking down what's happening on the court

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Speaker 2: and the culture in our own personal growth. Because women's

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Speaker 2: sports deserves the full conversation, let's get into it. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: We're starting with the Olympics Winter Olympics Update. How was that?

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Speaker 1: It was so incredible just speaking on the point of

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Speaker 1: women's sports, seeing all of the different women that are

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Speaker 1: like trailblazing in different ways. Mikayla being the oldest and

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Speaker 1: youngest woman both to win a gold medal and different

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Speaker 1: points of her career like between and a twelve year span,

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Speaker 1: like coming back and winning gold again like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people would have.

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Speaker 3: You know, gave up and as twelve year fan and

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Speaker 1: You got Laila Edwards being the first black person to

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Speaker 1: win a medal in ice hockey, and then you've got

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Speaker 1: Alyssa Lou winning gold for the.

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Speaker 3: First time in twenty four years with.

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Speaker 2: Everything with her. Yes, figure skating has captured my heart.

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Speaker 2: Like I remember watching Ice Princess growing up and I

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Speaker 2: But I have fallen in love with figure skating because

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Speaker 2: what they do on that ice, I don't like, how

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Speaker 2: her Instagram. I stalked her on Instagram just to see

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Speaker 2: like her other routines and how she trains, and she's

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Speaker 2: like a whole video of her falling on the ice,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just like, I don't I don't know how

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Speaker 1: About the sports, it was just like taking a sport

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Speaker 1: that's already difficult, like ice dancing on ice, like it's

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Speaker 1: like doing ballet that's already hard, like I can barely

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Speaker 3: Ice right like hockey.

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Speaker 1: Like not only are they figure skating basically back and

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Speaker 3: Control they have with their bodies, like playing defense on ice,

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Speaker 1: The whole thing Island Goo, being a Stanford like quantum

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Speaker 1: all time. Like these women really, like they capture my

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Speaker 1: heart in a different way. I love the Summer Olympics

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Speaker 1: just because I've grown up with it, and like basketball, volleyball,

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Speaker 1: The Winter Olympics capture my heart in a different way

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Speaker 1: because these are sports that typically don't get a lot

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Speaker 1: only have once every four years to like do that

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I love I thought it was a yeah,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing, Like we really turned the

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Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics. Because it does happen once every four years.

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Speaker 2: This is really the first time that these female athletes

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Speaker 2: have felt the wave of this, like everybody watches women's

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Speaker 2: Been able to feel it here, especially in the United States.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that the women won the majority of

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Speaker 2: even though they did some triplin. They in some hot

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Speaker 2: because they are our hockey team. But that's all I'm

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Speaker 2: you yeah, apparently like so I'm want to bring this

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you did bring it up on this

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Speaker 3: We do the women's sports.

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Speaker 1: It would mean a lot. I would hope that this

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Speaker 3: It is important to have their support too.

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Speaker 1: And when you hear people talk about your fellow female

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Speaker 3: Like, so hopefully that isn't true.

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Speaker 1: But for those watching show, who might be men that

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Speaker 1: like being complicit in it, you know, it only perpetuates

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Speaker 1: the disrespect. And this show is all about all the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like, like you don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going on in that moment. It was just like a

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Speaker 2: again allegedly a snapshot of a bigger conversation or a moment.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the president. So like I would, I

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Speaker 2: would be surprised if someone was like, yo, shut up, president,

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Speaker 2: mister president, respectfully, like you're celebrating one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: moments of your career winning a gold medal, and he

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Speaker 3: But Kim Molki team, what Kim Molkey team? Was this

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Speaker 2: The Baylor team? When they was at the they were

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Speaker 2: So like the fact that you know that teams have

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Speaker 2: It's just weak to me. And the fact that that's

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Speaker 2: to uplift our male counterparts and everything that they do. So,

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Speaker 2: these are all grown men. Did you go to any

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Speaker 1: I went to high I went to ice hockey men's

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Speaker 2: It was yeah, Oh my gosh, I'm so happy you

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Speaker 2: We're gonna pivot. I was going to talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about college who. We will save that for next

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Speaker 2: week because I want to dedicate the rest of this

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Speaker 2: show to CBA talk. I was waiting for Mariah to

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Speaker 2: get back. Also because today we got amazing monumental news

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Speaker 2: that the WNBA, for the first time since we signed

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Speaker 2: our last CBA triggered our revenue sharing clause. So snaps claps,

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Speaker 2: snaps claps for everybody. So I know that's right.

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Speaker 3: But then all of.

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Speaker 2: The all, the WNBA loses money. Y'all don't make money.

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Speaker 2: Shut it up, Shut it up, Shut it up, because

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Speaker 2: we have proof, right, here and I will see it

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Speaker 3: Okay, why did I get this on Oka? Are you

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Speaker 3: breaking this news?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I could have though, because I knew this.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot I have. Okay, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: doing a lot of reading guys off of my computer

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Speaker 2: We had a bargaining session this morning, so I cannot

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Speaker 2: of misinformation going around and it's like it's becoming very exhausting.

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Speaker 2: I said that last time. I just wish everybody would

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Speaker 2: shut up about it, Honestly, I really do, unless it's

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Speaker 2: like give the one what they deserve. I think after that,

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Speaker 2: activating the revenue sharing system. So I'm reading this. I

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Speaker 2: So this is in our last CBA guys, Okay, the

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Speaker 2: one that we negotiated in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, pre COVID,

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Speaker 2: think is a really amazing feat considering how many businesses

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Speaker 2: the WNBA is a league that was already, you know,

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Speaker 2: have activated the revenue sharing Like it's It's a very

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Speaker 2: our system, So to break it down with numbers, if

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Speaker 2: that's what we get. But if we were under the

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Speaker 2: many things that the NBA has in place in their

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you these are the differences between our CBA

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Speaker 3: The seven dollars to sixty dollars comparison. It's what's fascinating

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Speaker 1: That's eleven percent of what they're making basically is what

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Speaker 2: That is in outrageous. Yeah, so wait, okay, wait, let's

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Speaker 1: So obviously today I was working, y'all, I'd be off

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Speaker 2: For me, it gives me. It doesn't give me hope

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Speaker 2: hold on to that information for one hundred and twenty days.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, what they've presented to us is not

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Speaker 2: it's like very annoying that we can't even celebrate the

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Speaker 1: A lot of 'am have to make money from, like

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Speaker 3: So, oh, this is interesting that.

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Speaker 1: This news comes out today because I was just thinking about,

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Speaker 3: About off season leagues which are starting.

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Speaker 1: But when you see things like I saw something about

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Speaker 3: Is that part of it? Like why everyone's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like I will say, Terry told us two years ago

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Speaker 2: And now this rev share. You know, we weren't. None

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Speaker 2: then I didn't even talk about the the licensing payment

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Speaker 2: let me explain this to you. The licensing agreement is

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Speaker 2: we all get paid equally. It was in the CBA.

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Speaker 2: There's language. We all saw it, we agreed on it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: nobody is upset that we're all getting equal amounts, you

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Speaker 2: Like it's reality. We all saw it happen. So the

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Speaker 2: not afraid to admit that we all eat. This is

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Speaker 2: it's our time since the CBA expired, they get to

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Speaker 1: Wow, y'all really not about to Yeah, that actually gives

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Speaker 2: So like a lot of us, like everybody in the

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Speaker 2: We're like, oh, we figured hit how much? Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: ownors listen here, Okay, run us our honey, run us

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Speaker 2: them coins and you're welcome, because this league doesn't exist

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Speaker 2: helps them keep their stars. Right, but if a star

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Speaker 2: or you sign them to a core and then it's

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Speaker 2: a team and wanting them to stay there at a

435
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: supermax value. And that's not how it's been used at all.

436
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: So what the NBA has It's called the Larry Bird

437
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: Rights equivalent or Larry Bird Rights ignore equivalent. That's what

438
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: I wrote on my computer. So the Bird rights in

439
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: the NBA gives the team financial flexibility to sign a

440
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: player that has been there a veteran, I should say,

441
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: sign a veteran that has been there three plus years,

442
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: even if it goes over the salary cap. So instead

443
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: of them becoming a restricted free agent or cord, they

444
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: can make the max salary whether it fits on their

445
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: cap or not, and stay on the team that they've

446
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: been on for three plus years. Right. But now, in

447
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: the WNBA, because we have a hard cap, keeping a

448
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: star on your team takes up so much of your

449
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: salary cap and doesn't really give you flexibility to build

450
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: around the cord player, which is like such backwards thinking.

451
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: So you force the player to stay on the team

452
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: and then you don't have enough money to give her

453
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: good teammates. What's interesting is you spent all the money

454
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: on her and she don't even want to be there.

455
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Based on what you've been saying today is between the

456
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: money and the core and the Larry Bird thing and

457
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: what the NBA has versus what you guys have. Again,

458
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: I really love this conversation because we're leveling the playing

459
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: field to like, Okay, we're not literally asking for what

460
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: they have, but we're asking for like the equivalent to

461
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: what they have for us that is realistic for us.

462
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of the legislation that's outlined

463
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: by the CBA is made to protect the players in

464
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: the NBA, as the players are their biggest asset and

465
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: they appreciate appreciate them as such, they get paid as such,

466
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: and it's just interest saying the way they disrespect the

467
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: product with things like tanking and love management, but that's

468
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: neither here or there, and don't get punished for it. However,

469
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: in the w it seems like a lot of the

470
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: legislation that's in place by your CBA is set to

471
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: protect the owners, right, So how does that work when

472
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: they're not the ones you are an owner, why would

473
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: you not want to protect your players. It seems like

474
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: a certain level of disrespect, like, oh, we don't value

475
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: our players, but we really value our owners.

476
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's what this sounds like to me.

477
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: That's exactly what's happening. And every time we're in these conversations,

478
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: the players were like, the league, the league, this, we

479
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: want to do this for the league. We want to

480
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: do this for the league. And when the owners are talking,

481
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: they say, we need to protect our teams, we need

482
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: to protect our money. We losing money. What about the teams?

483
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: What about the teams? And when they say teams, they're

484
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: not talking about us, the players. They're talking about the team,

485
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: like the entity, the money making. Like they're not referring

486
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 2: when they refer to teams, they're not referring to the

487
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: players that make up the team. They're referring to how much.

488
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: The higher ups in the front offices make.

489
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: We know nothing. They don't tell us anything, and we ask,

490
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 2: and today we there was even a question that was

491
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: why are our salary cap systems and revenue sharing systems

492
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: so drastically different? And their answer was, y'all salaries. So

493
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: the only thing that According to them, the only thing

494
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: that they are willing to cap on or adjust or

495
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: undervalue is how much they pay the athletes. But everything

496
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: else just it's going to stay where it is. But

497
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 2: they won't even tell us what exactly they're spending their

498
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: money on for us to be like, okay, well, like

499
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: we can do without that, or y'all can do without that.

500
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: We just don't even know.

501
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Right, So what they're spending, what they're investing in on

502
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: your behalf, is it.

503
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Disclosed to you?

504
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Which is funny that it's not even like a standard

505
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: for every single team to have an up to par

506
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: practice facility.

507
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: Yet they're all of a sudden spending so much money.

508
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: What are they doing?

509
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Where's all the money going?

510
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: But even in their language, they want like you have

511
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: to like look like you're about to make sure that

512
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 2: your team has a standard facility, like you don't even

513
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: have to have in twenty thirty six, and it's gonna

514
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: give you. Yeah, And they get time, they get time

515
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: to figure it out, but we don't get time to

516
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: figure out our housing situation. But let's give the billionaires

517
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: and millionaires time to figure out how to give their

518
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: teams a facility y'all can have a lot of.

519
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: The players in the league right now aren't even going

520
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: to see the fruits of the fraction facility that's coming

521
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: in twenty thirty seven.

522
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: Exactly, they're not if it even comes at all, because

523
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: you know how it goes. The second thing, because there's

524
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: guys I could talk about this forever. The second thing

525
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: that is important to me being a veteran, and I

526
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: would consider myself like if you look at my numbers

527
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: in my career, like I would be considered like a

528
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: mid level veteran, right and then if you look at

529
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: my contract right now, for sure, absolutely so. What the

530
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: hardcap does and what it has been doing, it has

531
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: been pushing out veterans because rookies are cheaper and you

532
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: have them under contract for longer. With veterans, you know,

533
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: you have like an eight nine year veteran, you can't

534
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: like disrespect them with a BS salary. I mean some

535
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: you can, but most you shouldn't, especially if they've won,

536
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: if they have a good track record, if they're like

537
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: a good professional, if they're a good leader, good in

538
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: the locker room, Like there's so many intangible things that

539
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 2: veterans bring to teams that really can't be monetized, but

540
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: there's like a level of respect that goes into figuring

541
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: out how much you want to pay a veteran. What

542
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: the NBA does is they have a veteran exception, which

543
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: allows the team to again go over the cap, which

544
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to do. And it I'm pretty sure

545
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: that the league pays, like the NBA pays half of

546
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: a veteran minimum and then the team pays the other half,

547
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: so they can't push out veterans for being too expensive.

548
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: But again you cannot. It doesn't matter if we institute

549
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: the half and half because the salary cap is hard anyway.

550
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: So basically, building teams in the WNBA is very very

551
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: difficult to do. Requires a lot of players like an

552
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Asia Wilson to take a pay cut to keep her

553
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: teammates that help her win championships all on the same team,

554
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: and then not everyone can just do that. And then

555
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: you have like a star like a Kelsey Plum who's like, dang,

556
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: I want to make some more money. There's no flexibility

557
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: in Vegas, so she has to go to another team.

558
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: And if you want to make more money, if you

559
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: feel like you want to earn more money, like, you

560
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: absolutely have the right to do that. I feel like

561
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: anybody has the right to do that, But this hard

562
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: salary cap puts handcuffs on everybody. Like, Guys, this is

563
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: like literally what I want to do as a career,

564
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: Like I want to manage a salary cap. I want

565
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: to build a team. But this hard cap and not

566
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: having any exceptions, not having any like prerequisites or like

567
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: anything to be given a certain amount of money, it's

568
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: just years of service. It makes it very hard to

569
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: build competitive teams. So it's like a double edged sword

570
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: because the league wants to promote parody, because if you

571
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: do give people a soft cap, you're gonna have the Vegases,

572
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: the Phoenixes and the New Yorks of the league running

573
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: it up to build super teams, and you're gonna have

574
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: the Chicago's, You're gonna have the Dallases be like, we

575
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: don't really want to spend that much, so we're gonna

576
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: fill our team with a bunch of inexpensive players because

577
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: we only value our pockets and we don't care about

578
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: winning or paying our players what they deserve. Guys, it's

579
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: a dumpster fire. Honestly, when you really get down to

580
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: the nitty gritty of it, and the fact that this

581
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: has been our business model for all these years is

582
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: a little crazy, but we've made it this far, so

583
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to completely shit on the business practices

584
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: of the w because we are still here. Like this

585
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: was at the time a CBA that made a lot

586
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: of sense and was transformational at the time. But times

587
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: have changed drastically, actually, and I think that our CBA

588
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: needs to reflect that and they're not going for it,

589
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: but we are standing ten toes, like I wish people

590
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: could be a fly on the wall in these meetings. Guys,

591
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: it's been like it's not it's fun because like being

592
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: in a fight like this, Like I've never been a

593
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: part of anything like this before, so there is like

594
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: a little part of it that is like fun. But again,

595
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm not like nechA or Ac or Returner or Elizabeth

596
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: thor Fie or Stewie, who are like in the real

597
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: real meetings where they're probably like this is not fun.

598
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: This is frustrating. I only like it to pop in

599
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: and out to the meetings that they bring to us.

600
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm like, I'm learning so much. I

601
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: have so much respect for our Executive Committee for our

602
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: players association, for our advisors, for the other women in

603
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: our league who are showing up to these meetings and

604
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: asking questions and engaging with one another. Like it's been

605
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: like a really beautiful process. Like whatever comes out at

606
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 2: the end of this, the fact that we are all

607
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: sticking together like this is going to be so important

608
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: moving forward. So I'm like really excited about that. I

609
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: know I probably like confuse some people, but I like,

610
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: you sure, I'll like make sure y'all know right now

611
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: that this was not an explanation of anything that was

612
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: negotiated or discussed today. These are just like my inner

613
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: thoughts about how our salary cap system compares to the

614
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: NBA salary cap system, without even talking about dollar amounts.

615
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: This is just all about structure and this is how

616
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Lexi's brain works. The last thing I will say also

617
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: is the average salary conversation. We called it out today

618
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: because y'all know, like the average of zero and a

619
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: million is five hundred k, so we want to know

620
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: how many, Like what is the most common salary number,

621
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: not the average is the most common salary And they

622
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: was real hushmouth about that. I will say, y'all, like

623
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: I looked on our salary cap all on the internet.

624
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: No team, almost no teams had more than five players

625
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: that made more the average or more. So. The most

626
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: egregious one I saw was the Connecticut Sun. Not no

627
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: shade to the Sun. I'm just telling y'all what I saw.

628
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: Guess how many players made over the average or more?

629
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: One team two two two for sure. Yeah. Now guess

630
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: how many made six figures. So the average stylar, I think,

631
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: is like one something. So just geah the other like

632
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: you made the average, the average eight made ninety care less. Yeah.

633
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: So when we talk about average, like it sounds good,

634
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: it looks good in the headline, it looks good on paper,

635
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: But no, we don't. We don't want to hear the

636
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: average because the top is always going to pull the

637
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: average up.

638
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: Take care of your players.

639
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Make being in the WNBA what people aspire.

640
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: To and want to want to do.

641
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Don't make the dream playing inn AU or Unrivaled like

642
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: not there's anything wrong with those leagues, but like, don't

643
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: make the whole world being like I mean, look at

644
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I would so I can't wake through the season to

645
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: be over so I can go play in AU or

646
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: go play it unrivaled.

647
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: You don't want that.

648
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: You don't want little girls growing up to be like, Damn,

649
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: when I'm done with college, I'm gonna be no worse situation.

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Speaker 3: I'll just stay in college. You don't want that. Hoopers,

651
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Speaker 3: male hoopers are man, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Trying to jump through hoops to get to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, Like that's it. But even one of the owners,

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Speaker 2: they are like, they're always saying like this is like,

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Speaker 2: this is y'all's home base, Like this is what this

656
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: is where you build your platforms, this is where you

657
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: build your brands. And we're like, if it's home base,

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00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: then pay us like it. So I hope that this

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Speaker 2: was informative, more so informative of Lexi's brain, a little

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Speaker 2: informative about the state of our CBA. Guys, I'm only

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Speaker 2: speaking on behalf of myself, Okay, So don't take this

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Speaker 2: and be like, this is what's going on, this is

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Speaker 2: what they think. This is just Lexi and Mariah's brains,

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Speaker 2: you know, having a conversation. And these are the things

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Speaker 2: that I think about and I like to look into

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Speaker 2: and learn about because I've learned so much about even

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Speaker 2: the NBA, CBA. My dad has told me so many

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Speaker 2: things about their CBA negotiations. He was in a lot,

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Speaker 2: he experienced a lockout in his career. So I've just

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Speaker 2: learned so much, and I'm hoping that as much as

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Speaker 2: everybody is having opinions and talking and discussing, y'all are

672
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: also like learning about what's really going on. Because at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, like it's good to learn,

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Speaker 2: it's good to read, you know, it's you don't always

675
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Speaker 2: have to argue or debate something down. It's okay to

676
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: just absorb information and keep it moving. But yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was my little c BA spiel, right, So I'm just excited.

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00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. You know, got some money and I

679
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: closed up my house today. Guys. Also, so way in

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00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: Florida beautiful. So your girl is a is a homeowner, guys.

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Speaker 2: So today it's been a great day. This is this

682
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Speaker 2: is thank you. This day has been a great day.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's some more money coming. I got a

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Speaker 2: house now, you know. AU Championship Week, y'all. So this

685
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: is the final week of AU so y'all definitely got

686
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: to tune in to see who is crowned the AU champ.

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Speaker 2: The cat this week are Odyssey KB mmm, or are

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Speaker 2: the captains Odyssey KB? I want to say Rebecca again,

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Speaker 2: ot to see Rebecca, Tina and KB. Those are the captains.

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Speaker 2: But there's uh, there's like ten to twelve people that

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Speaker 2: could potentially win or at least finish top four. That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's when you get a little medal when you finish

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Speaker 2: top four. So this week is gonna be fun. I'm

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Speaker 2: on the Gold Squad gold Rush again with Odyssey. So

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Speaker 2: y'all tune in. We play Wednesday Thursday Sunday. Guys. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday Thursday Sunday. It's different this week than the last three.

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Speaker 2: So espn app wnba app. Speaking of the wnb app,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I was. I apparently have been

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Speaker 2: paying for it out of my own pocket. So I

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00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: got renewed today. I got an email that it was

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Speaker 2: for me, So I'm gonna it's okay. I got I

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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: got money. I can afford it, guys, I can afford

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00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: it now. I got that email today, I said, why

704
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: am I paying for this? That is ridiculous. We do

705
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: get it for free, guys, like we already do get

706
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: it for free. But for some reason I felt I

707
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: think I had to like buy it. I don't know

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00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: because I'm impatient, and you know, discount autumn codes be

709
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: annoying sometimes, so I was like, you know what, I'm

710
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: just gonna buy this, I feel it, But that that

711
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: that email today kind of blew me. Not gonna lie.

712
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: But if y'all don't have Leak Pass yet, it's literally

713
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: forty dollars, so get that. I know y'all are just

714
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: not rocking with WI right now, but please go get

715
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: the leaks at least to support us. Actually, I think

716
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: that the AU games are on there for free. I

717
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: don't even think you got to get a subscription, but

718
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: at least put it back on your phones, like we

719
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: told you last time. Put League Pass back on your

720
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: phones just for one more week, then you can delete

721
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: it again until we sign our sign our deal. We

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Speaker 2: all flowers, get flowers. I didn't. I forgot to get

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Speaker 2: flowers last week. Sorry, But do we have anybody that

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Speaker 2: we want to do you have anybody?

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Speaker 1: I want to give my flowers to the women of

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Speaker 1: the Olympics, Lindsay Vaughn, Alyssa, lou Mikayla, literally all of them.

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Speaker 3: Like, I think that you guys are so incredible.

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Speaker 1: I am so proud to have like covered you throughout

729
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: this time, see you in four years, like what the hell?

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Speaker 3: Just kidding because I followed all of them on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: I leave you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the girls really ate making history and I'm

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Speaker 1: just proud to be a woman and a woman in

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Speaker 1: sports and to have been exposed to new sports and

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Speaker 1: the se y all doing well.

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Speaker 3: I'm making money and thriving, like period. I love that, girls.

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Speaker 1: So my flowers go to the many beautiful women of

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Speaker 1: the Olympics, including like Maria Taylor covering the Olympics, like

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Speaker 1: all the girls the Olympics love you.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I'll give my flowers

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Speaker 2: to our Players Association staff and our advisors that I've

742
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: been working with us, because I wish y'all could have

743
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: heard them today in the meeting like they do not

744
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: play about us, And for having those people in these

745
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: rooms and guiding us and listening to us and helping

746
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: us has made such a big difference. I wasn't super

747
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: involved in the last CBAG y'all know, I was just

748
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: a baby, but I can feel like the energy is

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Speaker 2: absolutely different than what it was six years ago, and

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00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: that's a credit to us obviously, but it's absolutely a

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00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: credit to the Players Association staff and the advisors that

752
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: we've brought in because they have empowered us, they have

753
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: educated us us, and they have supported us every step

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00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: of the way. So the news today about the rev

755
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: share getting hit is like incredible, it's amazing, and I

756
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: hate that. Like I said, we can't really celebrate it

757
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: because we are in the middle of this negotiation time,

758
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: but like that's not something to just ignore or like

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00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: turn your nose up at. Like I had people. I

760
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: saw people being like, only eight million dollars, what do

761
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: you mean? Only like I've never turned a mond nose

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00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: up aut money that I earned that we earned. So

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Speaker 2: giving flowers to them because we would not be here

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Speaker 2: without them. So flowers for y'all. Flowers to the women

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Speaker 2: of the Winter Olympics. I hope y'all enjoyed this y

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Speaker 2: app session. This one was fun and hopefully by this

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Speaker 2: time next week we'll have more updates for y'all in

768
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: the CBA. But until then, tune into Unrivaled, tune into AU,

769
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: tune into the college games. So many good players playing,

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00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: so many good games going on. So continue to support

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00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: all the girls and all of their things like subscribe, Share,

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Speaker 2: We love y'all, Grateful for y'all. This has been another

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Speaker 2: episode of Full Circle and we will see y'all next week. Bye.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to Full Circle.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more basketball for the

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Speaker 1: Girls by the Girls. We want to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and tell us

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Speaker 1: hosted by Lexi Brown and Maria Rose. Our executive producer

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Speaker 1: is Jesse Katz. Our supervising producer is Grace Fused. Our

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