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Speaker 1: John middlecop Three and Out Podcasts? How is everyone doing

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Speaker 1: on this? Well, if you're listening, it's probably Tuesday or

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Speaker 1: when's day. I'm recording this on Monday, and the football

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Speaker 1: world is getting back into the swing of things. I

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Speaker 1: think basically every team in the league reports in the

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Speaker 1: We're probably six seven days away from anyone putting on

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Speaker 1: shoulder pads, helmets and pants to actually play football, but

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Speaker 1: just getting everyone in the same building all across the country.

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Speaker 1: Is a start. I'm excited football season is back. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, I've just spent a week in Tahoe

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Speaker 1: and it was awesome. I mean, it's just places good

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Speaker 1: a reason that these quarterbacks, that these professional athletes that

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Speaker 1: plan that golf tournament that aren't from this area. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they come back every year. It's freaking awesome. It's the best.

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Speaker 1: I cannot recommend it enough. There's nothing quite like it.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most beautiful places, I think in

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Speaker 1: I would have to put based on experience, success at

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Speaker 1: the highest level and just the resume, would be Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Matt Stafford. I can't put Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford around guys like Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: not because I don't love Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Those guys haven't done it that long. I saw Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford for a decade and we went, goddamn, he might

434
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Speaker 1: be one of the most talented guys in the league,

435
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Speaker 1: but his team never wins. Well, what what did we

436
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: learn met Stafford played for the Lions write a complete joke.

437
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: Organization got him with the Rams Super Bowl champ I

438
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Speaker 1: think he threw the third or fourth most touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: the league last year actually might have been. I can't

440
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Speaker 1: an he won the Super Bowl like he's validated. It

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Speaker 1: turns out it wasn't as Stafford. It was an alliance

442
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: and listen, Russell Wilson had a weird year and maybe

443
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Speaker 1: he's trending in the wrong way, the base on his

444
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Speaker 1: body of work, super Bowl champion, like I'm sorry, Like

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Speaker 1: he's done way more than those other guys. And then

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Speaker 1: the other guys to me are just in their own

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Speaker 1: category of guys that are trending up, guys that you

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Speaker 1: would want as your quarterbacks, and just studs. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I have three guys who are elite. Aaron Rodgers been

450
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Speaker 1: the best player in the league now for two years.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the best quarterback of all time. Patrick Mahomes,

452
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Speaker 1: who had one of the greatest starts, who is on

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Speaker 1: who has had one of the greatest starts in the

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Speaker 1: history of the NFL. Like, those guys are in their

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Speaker 1: own category for me. Then I go Russell and Stafford,

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Speaker 1: and then I go to the crew of young guys.

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Speaker 1: It's basically Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: The way I would rank those would be Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert or Burrow Herbert, however you want to rank him,

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Speaker 1: I don't even care. But those guys are all studs.

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Speaker 1: But they just haven't done it that long. And Lamar

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Speaker 1: had his first kind of glitch, he got hurt. I

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Speaker 1: want to see how he bounces back. Joe Burrow, it

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Speaker 1: was awesome, took the took the bangles of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Can you do it again? What's it looked like when

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Speaker 1: he's the hunted? You know? Justin Herbert, Like every single

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Speaker 1: team I've talked to had him ranked as the top

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Speaker 1: five quarterback last year, every single one. Now you'd go,

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Speaker 1: wells team, they went nine and eight, they didn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I go, I don't put that on him

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Speaker 1: because without him, they're like a four win team. Their

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Speaker 1: defense was atrocious, their coach kind of a clown show.

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Speaker 1: Last year, defense was awful, blew the game against the Raiders. Like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't put that on Justin Herbert. Now, if

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Speaker 1: if if they go nine and eight, nine and eight

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Speaker 1: and nine and eight again, maybe we have to evaluate it.

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Speaker 1: But right now, I put those guys in their own tier.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the group of Dak Cousins, car

479
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: all guys that are solid NFL quarterbacks, all guys that clearly,

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Speaker 1: if you have a solid team, can get you to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think we all agree that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the group that's in the top and then you

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Speaker 1: got Watson, and I don't really, Like I said, I

484
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Speaker 1: don't know what to do with Kyler. He doesn't like

485
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Speaker 1: studying football. You know, other guys didn't like studying football,

486
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Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell. Now Kyler is much more talented than JaMarcus,

487
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Speaker 1: naturally accurate, and maybe he's just better at football. But like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I don't even know what to do

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Speaker 1: with you and Deshan I you don't even play football anymore.

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Speaker 1: When you play football again, then I can put you

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Speaker 1: on a tier. And all the other guys I don't

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Speaker 1: really care about, you know, the Baker mayfields, the Sam Donald's,

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Speaker 1: the Zach Wilson's, like I don't even the we go

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Speaker 1: through a Drew Ox. Don't even know what to make

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Speaker 1: of them, Jamis Winston's. To me, they're irrelevant until they

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Speaker 1: prove otherwise, they're just starting NFL quarterbacks whoever all those

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Speaker 1: teams would replace if they could with any of the

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Speaker 1: guys above them. Uh, it's a fascinating if you have

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Speaker 1: the athletic I recommend it. The quotes are cool, but

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Speaker 1: I I really believe that the top basically twelve thirteen

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Speaker 1: guys are just in a different category than everyone else.

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Speaker 1: And even in those thirteen guys are all in their

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Speaker 1: own separate categories. And I heard Coward say that, like

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Like I can't have Matt Stafford below justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: you know, or below Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, Like

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like we had a decade where

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Speaker 1: the Matt Stafford and then we saw Matt Stafford with

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Speaker 1: the real organization. And here's the other thing. I've said

509
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Speaker 1: this forever. I judge you the most in playoff games.

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00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the playoffs, James Harden would be

511
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest NBA players of all time, except

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Speaker 1: the playoffs have happened and we've seen him crumble like

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Speaker 1: a cookie. If it wasn't for the playoffs, Chris Paul

514
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Speaker 1: would be known as fucking the second greatest point guard

515
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Speaker 1: behind Magic Johnson of all time, except the playoffs have

516
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: happened and he's not right. There's a reason that Steph Curry,

517
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Speaker 1: Lebron James, you know, Tom Brady, Derek Jeter, like you

518
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Speaker 1: get extra credit for doing it when it matters the most.

519
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods won a lot of majors that matters. Nadal Djokovic,

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00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Like winning the Grand Slams kind of more important than

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Speaker 1: some random tournaments. So when you do it at the

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Speaker 1: highest level in the biggest moments. Even though Stafford obviously

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Speaker 1: has had the ones, you know, playoff run, how many

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Speaker 1: would he have had if he would have been played

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Speaker 1: for the RAM for the last five years, would you

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Speaker 1: have six playoff victories? Probably the guys really good and

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Speaker 1: obviously Russell Wilson, I know he hasn't done it necessarily recently,

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Speaker 1: but every single year taking team to the playoffs with

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Speaker 1: flawed team, especially the second half with kind of pete

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Speaker 1: uh and that franchise kind of going in the different direction.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to one last thing that there

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Speaker 1: was breaking news. I don't know. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 1: really big news that Gudakins and the Fleur they got

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Speaker 1: extended in Green Bay, and I think and listen, I'm

535
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Speaker 1: just as guilty as anybody. It's just society, right. We

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Speaker 1: make huge judgments immediately when things happen, whether it be

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Speaker 1: a trade, whether it be a coach hiring or a

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Speaker 1: coach firing. One of the most famous graphics is that

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Speaker 1: year that Doug Peterson got hired McAdoo. I think was

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Speaker 1: in his class. McAdoo wasn't a Peterson wasn't half and

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Speaker 1: then obviously Doug won the Super Bowl. McAdoo fired a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. We we just make draft nights. We

543
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Speaker 1: make big judgments, and it's proven over and over how

544
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: little it matters right who you draft on draft night.

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00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Everyone's excited. Five years later that pick might be a bust,

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Speaker 1: that pick might be a Hall of Famer. We don't

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Speaker 1: know until we get more information now, and we specifically

548
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Speaker 1: do it a lot with firings, hirings and trades. I

549
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: remember when the Raiders traded Khlil Mac the Sloan Conference,

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00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the Darryl Morey Academia. Uh, you know, Analytic crew said

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Speaker 1: it was like one of the greatest trades in the

552
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Speaker 1: NFL history. It turns out it was a disaster. Why

553
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Speaker 1: because the players the Raiders used the picks on sucked.

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Speaker 1: You know. Part of like getting a lot of picks

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Speaker 1: back is nailing the picks. Part of the reason Danny

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00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Ainge gets a lot of credit for the trade he

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Speaker 1: made with the Brooklyn Nets once upon a time is

558
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Speaker 1: because when he traded Kevin Garnett and he traded Paul

559
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Speaker 1: Piers and he got all those picks back from the nets.

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Speaker 1: He nailed a bunch of picks, you know, getting Jayson Tatum,

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Speaker 1: getting Jalen Brown. I think Mark Smart might have been already.

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Speaker 1: He might have been in that crew too. Like you

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Speaker 1: get credit for not just accumulating picks. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if you get seven million picks. If you miss on them,

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Speaker 1: who gives a ship? I don't care. Like ultimately, the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners couldn't get along with Jim Harbaugh. They fired him.

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Speaker 1: I know they claimed it was mutual. It wasn't. They

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Speaker 1: fired him. They hired Jim tom Sula. They lost. It

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Speaker 1: was a disaster. So what I saw, you know, years ago,

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Speaker 1: Rogers McCarthy butting heads, and it was hard to tell

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Speaker 1: at the time because they had spent their entire career.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Rogers was clearly a great player, but I think

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Speaker 1: we all thought McCarthy was a pretty solid coach. And

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Speaker 1: rumors are coming out Rogers thinks he's a village idiot,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, he can't be that bad. Well, we

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Speaker 1: have the information. The Packers one, they know what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: and Rogers was right. And then the Packers went and

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Speaker 1: replaced them with the flour who's been fantastic, and Goodikins,

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Speaker 1: who I said last year, they don't teach you, being

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Speaker 1: a scout how to deal with situations like Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: That's a human situation. You either have it or you don't.

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Speaker 1: You either know how to deal with people or you don't.

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Speaker 1: And clearly I give Goodikins a lot of credit. He

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Speaker 1: figured it out. Everyone's kind of getting along, and the

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Speaker 1: Packers years later now look like enormous winners because today

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Speaker 1: a headline I saw in Pro Football Talk, McCarthy's already

587
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Speaker 1: getting asked about his job status. Of course he is,

588
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: people think, and rightfully so he's not that good at

589
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Speaker 1: his job. He doesn't call the offensive plays. His team's undisciplined.

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Speaker 1: I mean last year, I know they won some games,

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Speaker 1: but they played in a terrible division, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's justified. So like, did Jerry hire the right guy? Hell,

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Speaker 1: when he got hired, he said he watched every game

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Speaker 1: of the Packers or every game of the Cowboys, remember that,

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Speaker 1: And then the press conference he laughed and he said

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Speaker 1: he lied. It's like, it's like, is this guy just

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Speaker 1: full of ship? And the Packers, well, floor clearly is

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Speaker 1: really good part of getting along with star players. That's

599
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: a that's a skill not everyone can do that he can.

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Speaker 1: And then he implemented the Shanahan offense and it's hell

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Speaker 1: Rogers get back to some of the best football he's

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Speaker 1: ever played in his life. And Gudikins been a fantastic

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Speaker 1: general manager. And they didn't just nail that move like

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00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: that's one of the smartest transitions they've ever had in

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Speaker 1: the franchise. It's not easy to do because even if

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Speaker 1: McCarthy we all agree as average at best. Sometimes it's

607
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: hard to replace coaches, and when you fire a guy,

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Speaker 1: there's no guarantee you're gonna hire a good coach. And

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Speaker 1: they didn't just hire a good coach. They had a

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Speaker 1: good GM two and now they had kind of have

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Speaker 1: this duo that you feel really good about, one of

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Speaker 1: the best you know, you would say combinations in the league.

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Speaker 1: They've handled a lot of turmoil, they handle some tough times.

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Speaker 1: They've won thirteen games. I know, they haven't won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Only one team won Super Bowl every year.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, you know, besides Tom Brady that

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Speaker 1: there is no you could argue Aaron Rodgers is super

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Speaker 1: Bowl bust. But he's only been to one, so I'd argue, no,

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Speaker 1: like every year that they go to the NFC Championship

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Speaker 1: Game and just have an opportunity to be one of

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Speaker 1: the final four, Like that's that's a win, That's just

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Speaker 1: that's a fact. Uh So, I you know, the Packers

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Speaker 1: nailed that transition. Okay, let's dive into the Middlecoff mail

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Speaker 1: Bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where my voice is. I haven't been screaming, haven't been yelling.

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Speaker 1: It just it scared me for a minute when I

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Speaker 1: woke up this morning, I couldn't really talk. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, where's my voice to feed my family?

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Speaker 1: You know, because it's usually I used to lose my

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Speaker 1: voice a lot when I was younger. I didn't really care.

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Speaker 1: Now honestly kind of freaked me out. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: got a podcast record. Middlecoff mail Bag at John Middlecoff

633
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Speaker 1: is the Instagram. Fire in those d M s and

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Speaker 1: get your question answer here on the pot again. It's

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Speaker 1: just my name and d MS wide. Opening start with Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Listen for a while, but first time messaging for the

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Speaker 1: bag with Kyler Murray new contract. I keep seeing stuff

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Speaker 1: about him getting drafted to the A's as well, but

639
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Speaker 1: chose the football over baseball. How does that work when

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Speaker 1: you get drafted in two sports? Do the A's just

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Speaker 1: waste that draft pick? Since Murray decided to go to

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Speaker 1: the NFL, why would a team risk a high pick

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Speaker 1: on someone who just have would have the capability to

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Speaker 1: choose a different sport. Glad to hear your insight well.

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Speaker 1: At the time they drafted him, they drafted him in

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Speaker 1: the summer going into his season, so he had never

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Speaker 1: started a game at Oklahoma. Billy Bean kind of swung

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Speaker 1: for the fences because this freak athlete and honestly not

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Speaker 1: a crazy pick. No one expected him to be a

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Speaker 1: future first round pick. I don't think not at five nine.

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Speaker 1: And then once he played at Oklahoma, he had the

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Speaker 1: remarkable season, Kingsbury became the coach, and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: The A's got nothing for that pick. That is a

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Speaker 1: big goose egge right. They drafted him and they got zero,

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Speaker 1: So they got screwed. They took a risk, they took

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Speaker 1: a calculated risk, and a backfired. And that's just I

657
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Speaker 1: think that's the way it works. Sometimes it happens a

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Speaker 1: lot in ace ball when not not not two sport athletes,

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Speaker 1: but when you draft high school kids that might still

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Speaker 1: go to college, when you draft college kids that still

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Speaker 1: have another year of eligibility that might go back. There's

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Speaker 1: just there's a lot less guarantees. Like in football, when

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Speaker 1: I draft you, I know I'm gonna get you. Same

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Speaker 1: thing in basketball. Well, I guess in basketball you could

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Speaker 1: have an international guy, but you're draft eligible and you

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Speaker 1: can come over unless there are some international contract deals.

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Speaker 1: In baseball, there is no guarantee. Billy took a risk

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Speaker 1: and it backfired pretty quickly the Cardinals. I guess it

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Speaker 1: didn't backfire, but it could pretty quickly. Hey, John, longtime

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Speaker 1: listener inspired by your work, would mean a lot if

671
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Speaker 1: you got the chance to listen to my podcast seven

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Speaker 1: minute episode and share any feedback. Thanks in advance if

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Speaker 1: you look back at that again. Sean McVeigh studies himself.

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Speaker 1: I saw in the Whitworth interview. Uh one thing, and

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Speaker 1: one thing whit Ward said was that his first time

676
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Speaker 1: meeting McVeigh or that first offseason that mc McVeigh used

677
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Speaker 1: to study himself. He used to, you know a lot

678
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Speaker 1: of teams do this. You talk to the team and

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Speaker 1: you film it, and then he'd go back and see

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Speaker 1: how he was communicating with his team. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a Bill Walsh thing. Bill Walsh used to

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Speaker 1: film every team meeting and keep archives of his all

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Speaker 1: of his team meetings. So Sean mcveigh's pretty impressive guy.

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Speaker 1: A little weird that Sean McVeigh hasn't signed his contract.

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Speaker 1: I saw that story kind of circulating the last three

686
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Speaker 1: or four days that Sean McVeigh, who turned down Amazon

687
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Speaker 1: for like twenty million dollars a year, still does not

688
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Speaker 1: have a contract extension in terms he doesn't have it signed.

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say he's not going anywhere.

690
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: But that's kind of crazy. I love the pod John

691
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Speaker 1: the rare time I disagree with you. Richard Sherman couldn't

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Speaker 1: carry Antoine Winfield's jock. When it comes to cornerback tackles.

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Speaker 1: Sherman's best season may equal Windy's worst. Uh Listen, Antoine Winfield,

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Speaker 1: will a beast do tackled? Sure? Sure? Him? As a

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Speaker 1: hitter man, I'll give you a Winfield because I think

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Speaker 1: I said Sherman was the best tackling corner of the

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Speaker 1: free agency era. To the last thirty years. But I'll

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Speaker 1: give you Winfield, he's physical dude. Man. Charles Woodson another

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Speaker 1: physical guy. Uh you know some of those he would

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Speaker 1: played corner and safety. But when you can talk about

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Speaker 1: guys that just played safety, I'll give you that. I

702
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Speaker 1: couldn't hold his jock. I mean, Richard fucking hits people.

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Speaker 1: I love the interview with Whitworth. Question for the bag.

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Speaker 1: When you have the opportunity to chat with high level

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Speaker 1: guys like wit, do you ever take things they say

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Speaker 1: and incorporate it into your own game? Love go low

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Speaker 1: two when you talk about golf, makes a sports sound badass,

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Speaker 1: which is rare for golf commentary. Uh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I I in an interview setting. It's it's easier for

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Speaker 1: me over cocktails or b s NG to do that

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Speaker 1: in an interview setting because I'm not like Howard stern

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Speaker 1: Er Dan Patrick. This show is not an interview show.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of new podcasts they have interviews

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Speaker 1: every show. Part of this is like I got takes.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him. You can hear interviews a lot

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Speaker 1: of places. I'm gonna me I'm gonna give You're gonna

717
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Speaker 1: come here from my opinion, and I enjoyed. I would

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Speaker 1: love to pick Whitward's brain just over a beer around

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Speaker 1: the golf course. When I interview someone, because I'm not

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Speaker 1: a great interviewer, I'm always thinking about what am I

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Speaker 1: gonna ask him next, so I don't I'm not great

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Speaker 1: at listening when he's talking because I'm thinking about where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the conversation. And that's a skill

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Speaker 1: that I don't have to like be able to take

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Speaker 1: everything he said, I'd have to go back and listen,

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Speaker 1: which I probably should him and Cam Heyward, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the NFL Man of the Year that

728
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Speaker 1: that McVeigh nugget was good. I think watching himself, because

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Speaker 1: I think we can all do that whenever we're starting

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Speaker 1: something new or even we've been involved in something for

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Speaker 1: a while, it's kind of just kind of look at

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Speaker 1: ourselves in the mirror and ask ourselves what we can

733
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Speaker 1: improve that, not like in a cheesy way, but like,

734
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Speaker 1: what is there an area that we can be better at?

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Speaker 1: Is there? Because I know communication, for me, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a great communicator on just basic things, whether I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to my mom, girlfriend, a friend, people I work with.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes I say something and I realized, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know if actually what I'm saying got through.

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Speaker 1: And I think the you know, the higher you get

741
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Speaker 1: up in life, that is very key. Communication is very

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Speaker 1: very important. That's something I need to improve on. I'm

743
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Speaker 1: not sure you're aware of this, but Debo is hosting

744
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Speaker 1: a youth camp not far away from you. Just a

745
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: heads up. Cool, Hey, John Diard Stealers fan, just finish

746
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: your pot with Cam Heyward. Chills down my body most

747
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: time as I've listened from the stories and nostalgia. Thank you.

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00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward's a stud man, sodd that's it's a high

749
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Speaker 1: level guy. I found Collins Feet a few years ago

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Speaker 1: and have it missed the pod. Since you're the best,

751
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: we know you're not a fan of Governor Newsom, so

752
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: I would like to hear your take on him demanding

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Speaker 1: U c l A explain how leaving the PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: helps their student athletes. I think it's a moronic comment. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm frustrated with Governor in Ley here from the state

756
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Speaker 1: of Washington. It seems he is he bases his career

757
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Speaker 1: on copying Governor Newsom. My takeaway is U c l

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Speaker 1: A doesn't know Gavin Newsom a goddamn thing, so I

759
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Speaker 1: thought his comments he's just a classic political grand standard

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Speaker 1: who gives a ship? I mean, Gavin Newsom says more

761
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: stuff that means absolutely nothing than any human I've ever seen.

762
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Speaker 1: So like, I can't believe what that they left for

763
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Speaker 1: more money? I can what are we even talking about?

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Speaker 1: I start Colin crush him the other day. It's just

765
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Speaker 1: just classic him trying to get involved in something like,

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Speaker 1: no one gives a ship. What you think on this issue, Gavin?

767
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: We have economic crisis going on right now in California,

768
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: poor people everywhere, homelessness, inflation, disaster, Like, let's fix some

769
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Speaker 1: real problem over U c l A football playing Iowa

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Speaker 1: in two years. Give me a break. Honestly, it's embarrassing.

771
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: No one cares. No one cares. That's why I didn't

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Speaker 1: even feel very obligated to even talk about it. I

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00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: don't think he it just doesn't matter. Great interview with Whitworth.

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Speaker 1: Please tell me the dude is going into broadcasting. I

775
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: think he is. He's gonna He's gonna be on Amazon Prime,

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00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime on the Thursday night game has a ton

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have like seventeen players be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see how they all mix in. Hey, John, what's your

779
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Speaker 1: take on Jimmy g potentially being traded to Tampa. I

780
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: heard it was just a rumor, and I think maybe

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00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: it's a sign that Tom Brady is gonna play both

782
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty three season and not just twenty two.

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00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: And then passed the towards to Jimmy. Greetings from Chili,

784
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Speaker 1: Go Meadow and Joaquin Nemon. You got some good goal

785
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: for some Chile. Those two might be and live sooner

786
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: or later. I don't think Tom Brady will be on

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers next year. He'll either be with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins or he's gonna be retired. This is his

789
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: last two raw in Tampa. I I feel very very

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Speaker 1: confident on that. I don't think Jimmy's gonna end up

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Speaker 1: in Tampa. I'm pretty sure. I haven't checked. I don't

792
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: think they have any money one and two like, I

793
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Speaker 1: just don't. I don't even think it's an option for them.

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00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an option for Jimmy. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're Jimmy, you would The Niners aren't gonna trade

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Speaker 1: him to a place where he's gonna sit and be

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00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: the backup because obviously, even if he got traded to

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Speaker 1: somewhere where he has to compete for a job, you

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Speaker 1: trade him to Tampa like he's backing up Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: He knows that. Hell, he's seen it before. So I

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Speaker 1: think that was a rumor. I saw that Jason Lytton's

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00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: and people with Tampa refuted it. I think that was

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Speaker 1: just a legit rumor. When I say legit, I just

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00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: mean it was only a rumor, not like actual there

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00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: was much validity behind it. How do you players, especially

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Speaker 1: those in Green Bay locker room feel about Aaron Rodgers.

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: It feels like his public reputation has taken a hit lately,

808
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, all that matters

809
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: the opinions of his teammates. Um. I don't know anyone

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Speaker 1: currently with the Green Bay Packers. Everyone I've ever known

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Speaker 1: that have been around him liked him. That's why I

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Speaker 1: thought the last year again, what there's been a big

813
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Speaker 1: separation between the way the media talks about stuff and

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Speaker 1: the way US people us the consumer does and the

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Speaker 1: way the players do. I think the vaccine thing was

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00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: a huge separation, right. I would imagine that now that

817
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Speaker 1: there's no mandates for vaccines, what percent of professional athletes

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Speaker 1: are going to get that vaccine again or booster last year?

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Speaker 1: A lot of them did it. I'm one of those

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Speaker 1: two that was forced into doing it because the only

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Speaker 1: way I go to fort nine practice was get vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: and I did it. If I wouldn't had to do it,

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Speaker 1: I would not have. Just like a lot of those guys,

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Speaker 1: they would not have got vaccinated if it wasn't for

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Speaker 1: it being mandated by the NFL. I guess it wasn't

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Speaker 1: technically mandated by the NFL, but a lot of them

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Speaker 1: did it strictly because of doing that. No different in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Do you think those guys are ever gonna

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Speaker 1: get the COVID shot again? When they've all had it.

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Speaker 1: The COVID shot doesn't stop it, and they are perfectly

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Speaker 1: healthy and it doesn't impact them. I would imagine the

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Speaker 1: people that got it, they were on the fence, are

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Speaker 1: never going to touch that vaccine again. So most of

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Speaker 1: the way the media talked about the immunization comment, I

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Speaker 1: think the players internally were not one. They already knew

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't vaccinated, and to looked at the vaccines

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Speaker 1: a lot differently than the way it's talked about on

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Speaker 1: TV through the media members. So and the reason Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers become polarizing is because of that. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: because of that, I guess the trade request, but the

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Speaker 1: immunization comment was took him to another level. And if

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Speaker 1: you just go out on Twitter or the media, they

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Speaker 1: talked about the vaccine a lot differently. And I told

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Speaker 1: Colin this, I remember going on the podcast last year,

845
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Speaker 1: like young people do not talk about the vaccine like

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Speaker 1: a lot of these older people do, especially in the media.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think a lot of players had an

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Speaker 1: issue with that at all. I think the media did,

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Speaker 1: and the media had a big issue because that's they

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Speaker 1: make a huge issue out of that. I think for

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Speaker 1: those of us in society, we're talking a lot differently

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Speaker 1: with our people over cocktails, out and about in the

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Speaker 1: real world than the media discusses this stuff. And how

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Speaker 1: some of us have been having a lot different discussion

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Speaker 1: for two years. Maybe some of you have jumped on

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Speaker 1: board in the last year. I'm sure some of your

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Speaker 1: tunes have changed the last six months. So it's just

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Speaker 1: especially younger people, you know, we don't discuss this stuff

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Speaker 1: like some of the media elites and the older people.

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Speaker 1: I'll promise you that, so I don't think he's judged

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Speaker 1: like the way the media perceives him. That that would

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Speaker 1: be my ultimate take. Ben. Following you on Twitter this year,

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Speaker 1: I started listening to your podcast, which you had started sooner.

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Speaker 1: Biggest compliment I give you as I put off listen

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Speaker 1: to Howard Stern to listen to your podcast. My question is,

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Speaker 1: and not sure if you're allowed under the rules. Can

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners trade Jimmy g to a team that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have enough cap room by retaining part of the

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Speaker 1: salary and the other team includes cash in the deal

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Speaker 1: to set the amount the forty Niners retained. Net cash

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Speaker 1: impact for the forty Niners would be zero. So let's

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Speaker 1: say the Niners eat half and the other team just

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Speaker 1: trades them the cash back. They cannot do that. That

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Speaker 1: that is not I don't think that's an option because

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Speaker 1: it would impact the other team's salary cap um. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say, no, that's that's not an option. I

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Speaker 1: see what you're saying. We know the Colts have a

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Speaker 1: great running back behind a very good online They upgraded

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Speaker 1: to a quarterback that makes good decisions and doesn't play

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Speaker 1: like his hair is on fire. But as a Colts fan,

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Speaker 1: I'm not confident in the wide receivers. Pittman can be

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Speaker 1: very good, agreed, But after him, what should we expect?

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Speaker 1: I know the Indian media, indie media is hyping the

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Speaker 1: Colts first pick Alex Pierce, but what can we really

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Speaker 1: expect from the rookie? Love the show? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: their number one question I know Ballard gets asked about

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Speaker 1: this is their playmakers and the one thing Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: and some of his Heyday had in Atlanta. Will playmakers

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Speaker 1: Roddy White, Tony Gonzalez, Julio Jones, Freeman. You know that

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Speaker 1: they've had a lot of good skill guys over the years,

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Speaker 1: so obviously Jonathan Taylor star stud But is their passing

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Speaker 1: game gonna be good enough? I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He just you know, Carson Wentz was not turning the

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Speaker 1: they just weren't explosive in the passing game. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that much is gonna change. Like he

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Speaker 1: didn't throw fifteen picks last year, I'm pretty sure it

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Speaker 1: through seven Matt Ryan threw more. So, I I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's just a lock they're gonna be a dominant team,

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Speaker 1: even though I would rather have Matt Ryan than Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: But I think when you just loosen to look at

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Speaker 1: statistically now, is is Matt Ryan a higher level guy?

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Speaker 1: Do the teammates like him more? Of course, so is

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Speaker 1: some of the intangible uh improvement you're gonna get from

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Speaker 1: that for sure? But I m I hear you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think you have major question marks with explosive players

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Speaker 1: named Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman. Appreciate everyone listening, Share with

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