1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number three Tuesday edition, 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I hope all of you 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: are having a fantastic time so far in the week. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: We certainly are celebrating, talking a lot about Elon Musk 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: buying Twitter, and what's going on at the border, the 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: disaster as the question of whether Title forty two will 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: officially be repealed or not now in the courts, but 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: already a surge of immigrants has begun to illegal immigrants 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: trying to come into this country. And I believe we 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: are scheduled to be joined by Douglas Murray and Miranda 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Divine here in the third hour of the program. Do 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: we have Douglas Murray with us right now? Miranda? Now, 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: Miranda is up first. Ah, Yes, Miranda Divine, who deserves 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: multiple different Pulitzer Prizes for her work with The New 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: York Post in particular on the Hunter Biden in investigation. 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: And Miranda, appreciate you joining us. Always fantastic. I want 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: to start with this question, what do you think the 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: situation will be with Twitter now with Elon Musk? Do 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: you have any indication, for instance, what his thoughts were 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: on Twitter banning the sharing of your New York Post 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: story from October of twenty twenty about Hunter Biden the laptop, 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the implications for Joe Biden, any sense of whether he 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: at that time recognized that as being something that was 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the wrong choice by Twitter, Any idea from your perspective 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: what this might mean going forward for stories such as 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: yours High clan buck look nothing direct, But what we 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: do know is that a Elon Musk is for free speech, 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: so therefore would automatically be against the censoring of the 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: New York Post story. And b we know that he 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: has been talking and he's friendly with Jack Dorsey, the 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: founder and originator of Twitter, who has said in recent 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: times that the big dysfunction at the company was the board, 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: and the board is the one that was implacably opposed 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: to Elon Musk buying in and was talking about a 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: poison pill, etc. They've now buckled and realized the reality, 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's all good. You just see the 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: meltdown there from Twitter employees, from lefties, from Democrats, just 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: you know, screeching about the idea that somehow if Elon 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Musk comes on board that he's going to censor people 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: do exactly what Twitter has been doing. So they're just 42 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: projecting they have treated and it's so obvious now they 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: have treated Twitter and to some extent, Facebook and Google 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: and all the other sort of tech platforms as their 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: own personal playthings, as their way to censor their ideological 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: opponents and promote their own lives. Miranda, thanks for joining us, 47 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: as always did anyone after that that incident, which I 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: think very much led in the same mentality that had 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the suppression of the New York Post story about Hunter 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop, then led to the actual ejection from Twitter 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: of a sitting president of the United States should be 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: not at Facebook also went along with the suppression. It 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: wasn't just Twitter right before, right before the election. I 54 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: was just wondering if that company, if Twitter specifically or Facebook, 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: actually decided to reach out and try to be you know, 56 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: this is pre elon buying. And I just want to 57 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: note did they ever apologize? Did they say, Hey, we're 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: sorry that you guys broke a big story and that 59 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: we crushed it because we didn't like what it was 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: telling the voting public, not even the slightest. You know, 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: at least Jack Dorsey, when he was hauled before one 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: of those stupid zoom Senate inquiries, said well, look, it 63 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: was a mistake. We shouldn't have locked the New York 64 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Post account for two weeks before the election. Nothing from Facebook, 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: And if anything, I think Facebook was the insgetter at 66 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: that censorship, because you had a former Democrat employee who 67 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: was in a very senior role at Facebook who announced 68 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: was the first to announce this throttling of the story 69 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: just a few hours after it went live in October 70 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and so you feel like behind the scenes 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: there was some really desperate coordination going on, coordinated by 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats with their pals in big tech, and they 73 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: did it very quickly. And then of course it went 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: on to their pals in the intelligence community, where you 75 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: saw John Brennan and the rest, you know, Leon Panetta 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: and so on. Those fifty one former intelligence officials came 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: out five days after our story with that completely bogus 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: letter saying that the laptop was Russian disinformation, but that 79 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: served as a fig ley for the rest of the 80 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: media to ignore the story before the election. We're talking 81 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: to Miranda divine who deserves multiple politics for the work 82 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: she did on the Hunter Biden loss a laptop and 83 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: its connection to Joe Biden. And I'm curious. We now 84 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: know from your reporting that at least one of Joe 85 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Biden's at least one of Hunter Biden's business associates visited 86 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the White House. I believe the number was nineteen times. 87 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that relationship, those visits 88 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: and what it might mean about Joe Biden's knowledge and 89 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: relationship with at least one of Hunter Biden's business associates. Well, 90 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: we've counted now, I think it's up to two dozen 91 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: of those visits, and you know, one of them was 92 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: specifically with Joe Biden, but the others probably he met 93 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden because they were with his senior officials or 94 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: basically clerical assistants, often people assigned in by somebody other 95 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: than the person that they're meeting. And we know that 96 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: twice he went to visit Street Steve Ricketti, who was 97 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's chief of staff. He also had one meeting 98 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: with Jill Biden's staff. What it tells you is that 99 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business was a family business. It was a 100 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Biden's family business, and that was doing the influence peddling 101 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: overseas and ranking in tens of millions of dollars from 102 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: China and Russia and Romania and Ukraine and Kazakhstan, you 103 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: name it. And that money was flushing through the Hunter 104 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Biden accounts, and Joe Biden was getting not only having 105 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: some of his bills paid by his son Hunter, but 106 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: also his Hunter senior business partner, Eric Schwaren, who was 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: visiting Joe at the White House, also was doing Joe's 108 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: tax returns. He was involved in Joe's mortgage. He also 109 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: had signature privileges over one of the accounts that Joe 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Biden and Hunter Biden shared. There was a tax check 111 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: that Eric Schwaren told Hunter that he was going to 112 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: deposit that belonged to Joe deposit into their shared account 113 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: and then he was going to write another check for 114 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Hunter from that account. So there it's a very incestuous situation. 115 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: This is an adult fifty two years old. He and 116 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: his father had a lot of business in common. And 117 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden also met multiple of Hunter's overseas business partners. 118 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: He met them overseas like in Beijing. He also met 119 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: them in Washington, invited them to his home at the 120 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Naval Observatory, the Vice presidential residence, and he went to 121 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: at least one, I believe two dinners at Cafe Milano, 122 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: which is a Georgetown institution. Speaking Miranda Divine, author of 123 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Laptop from Hell, which Clain I highly recommend to all 124 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: of you listening. Miranda, we know there's this federal investigation 125 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: of Hunter Biden underway by the US Attorney in Delaware. 126 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Do we have some sand to me? And I know 127 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of secrecy and grand jury proceedings things 128 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: like that aren't able to be readily reported on, But 129 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: do we have some sense of what are they still 130 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: looking for? I mean, one of the questions that I 131 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: have going through all this is we know there is 132 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money that was slushing around. We know 133 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: that apparently Hunter Biden didn't declare some of it in 134 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: terms of IRS and the laws around that. We know 135 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: we didn't register as a foreign agent. What are we 136 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: still what do we think they're trying to find out? 137 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: And what are you still trying to find out on 138 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: the outside as a journalist, Well, you're right, I mean, 139 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: this is not a static story. There's a lot going on. 140 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: As the grand jury continues its deliberations, you also have 141 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: people's lips for starting to be loosened. You know those people. 142 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that knew what Hunter 143 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Biden was up to, how it was a family business, 144 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: and how Joe was involved. So far, really only Tony Bobolynski, 145 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: one of the former partners, has spoken, but there are 146 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: many others who know a lot, and we know that 147 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: some of them have already talked to the grand jury 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: that testified there. We know that at least two of 149 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Hunter's former lovers, including his baby mama London Roberts, have testified, 150 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: and we know that the grand jury is asking questions 151 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: like who is the big guy, and the big guy 152 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: being Joe Biden. That's what Tony bob Lynsky tells us, 153 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: and that's what you can tell from reading the laptop 154 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: and Bobolynsky's WhatsApp messages with Hunter and Jim Biden. The 155 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: big guy was one of the names that they all 156 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: used as a sort of a code, so Joe Biden. 157 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 1: They also Hunter called him my chairman, and so there's 158 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: a lot of involvement there at Joe Biden this family 159 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: influenced peddling scheme was you know it was. It was 160 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: orchestrated by Joe. Joe was intimately involved with it. He 161 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: was He had been doing this since his earliest days 162 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: in Delaware, and he just internationalized it and industrialized it 163 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: when he became vice president. The money just got so 164 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: much more because you had countries like China and Russia 165 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: and Ukraine lining up at the door wanting to put 166 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: money into the pockets of Joe Biden's family members in 167 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: the hope of a quid pro quone. We're talking to 168 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine with the New York Post time frame wise, 169 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: do we have any sense, Miranda, based on this grand 170 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: jury investigation. The reason why I raise it is obviously 171 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: as we get close to the midterms, generally speaking, they 172 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: try not to bring out October surprises. I would be 173 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: surprised if they did something in September or October. So 174 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: if they're going to bring charges in twenty twenty two, 175 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: would be either after the midterms, I would think, or 176 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: it would be sometime a ways out May or June. 177 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Do we have any sense if this grand jury is 178 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: close to wrapping up, is close to making any indicate 179 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: any decisions. It's been going on for a while now. Yeah, Look, 180 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: I think the best estimate would be May June, even 181 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: as early as later this month. You know, they seem 182 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: to have a lot of information. They don't need everything, 183 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: they just need enough for indictments. Um. And so I 184 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: guess that will then rest on the desk of Merritt 185 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Garland or probably more likely one of his deputies, Perts 186 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Lisa Monico. Um. And you know, I think that it 187 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: would be unwise of Merritt Garland to hold it up 188 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: because he's already been burned last year with that story 189 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: about the Department of Justice sticking the FBI on to 190 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: parents at school board meeting. So I would expect that 191 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: he will just allow, um, you know, the investigation to 192 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: run ups course and the chips for where they may. 193 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Interesting that we've just had Joe Biden issue his first 194 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: pardons quite early on in his presidency, so maybe he's 195 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: just getting his pardon muscles limber before Hunter comes up. 196 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: The pardoned muscle, you know, is that he's got a 197 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: bet with a certain mister Bucks ex and on whether 198 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Hunter's actually gonna face charges. But Miranda, great work as always, 199 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: and people should go check out not only your latest 200 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: at the New York Post, but also Laptop from Hell 201 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the book. Thanks so much, Miranda, thanks so Look guys, well, 202 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, buck, we're going to do our event in 203 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: New York City in June for the one year anniversary 204 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: of the show. What if Miranda's right and the charges 205 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: could have already come down, I need to start doing 206 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: my research on New York cities now. Now you're doing 207 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: end zone dances before you've even caught the touchdown pass. Sir, Okay, 208 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: let's let's calm down a little. There's no it's no 209 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: harm with a little bit of a high step as 210 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: you come close to the goal line. By the way, 211 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot of you right now, what is it. It's 212 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: two twenty on the East coast, eleven twenty on the 213 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: West coast. Maybe you're starting to feel a little bit 214 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: of a dragon a day, and a lot of people 215 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: feel in that dragon the day, you know, if they 216 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: need a little bit of caffeine, And how about Black 217 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: Rifle coffee to take you through the rest of your day? 218 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Do you know? Black Rifle Coffee donated over one hundred 219 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: thousand bags of coffee, over two point one billion cups 220 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of coffee, just two men and women in uniform. I mean, 221 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: this is a tremendous, tremendous donation process they put in place. 222 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: They support veterans, law enforcement first responders, and they've got great, 223 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: high quality coffee beans from Columbia and Brazil roasted each 224 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: weekday before their ship to your home, ensuring you get 225 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: the freshest coffee possible. Best way to enjoy Black Rifles 226 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: freedom filled coffee. How about joining the Black Rifle Coffee Club. 227 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: When you join the club, your brew of choice is 228 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: roasted package ship free to your home on your schedule. 229 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: You save a trip to the store and you get 230 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: special discounted pricing on roast. You gain access to exclusive products, 231 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: and you get partner discounts. You can purchase at Black 232 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: Rifle Coffee dot Com. Use our names as the promo code. 233 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: That's Clay and Buck Clay buc k during the checkout 234 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: process for twenty percent off your purchase. That's Black Riflecoffee 235 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: dot Com. Use that code Clay and Buck Boom twenty 236 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: percent off on your first purchased Black Rifle Coffee American Coffee. 237 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: So we were going to address this a few moments ago, 238 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: um mister, because Clay, You're gonna to explain this and 239 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: to me, mister Ben Simmons. Here here, here's first ESPN's 240 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith talking about the Brooklyn Nets guard. Let's 241 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: play this one twenty. Nobody is worse than Bevin Simmons. 242 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons might also be the weakest, most pathetic excuse 243 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: for a professional athlete we have ever seen in not 244 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: just American history, but the history of sports. I can't 245 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: think I can't think of a professional athlete that has 246 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: come across more pathetic than this man, Clay, What did 247 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: he do? I don't even know when he did play? 248 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: They didn't play. He's been sitting out for a long 249 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: time now. But what is fascinating about this? And you 250 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: just heard Stephen A. Smith, who's the highest paid person 251 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: in the opinion business for ESPN, absolutely going off on 252 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. He's a Brooklyn Nets player, was supposed to 253 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: play in Game four. The Nets just got sweet swept 254 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: by the Boston Celtics, didn't play and got destroyed. What 255 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: I think is so fascinating about this is Ben Simmons 256 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: destroyed for not playing. Naomi Osaka and Simone Vials when 257 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: they decided not to perform not to play their sport. 258 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: It was heroic that they were choosing not to play, 259 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: that they were putting their health first. And at the 260 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: time you talked about you talked about Simone Vials and 261 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: just got crushed for it in the media. I talked 262 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: about it, and people are used to I think me 263 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: talking about it. But my position on it was, we 264 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: need to treat male and female athlete. It's the same, 265 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: and so if a woman decides that she can't play, 266 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: we need to think, Okay, what would the reaction be 267 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady suddenly said, hey, I don't feel well 268 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: enough to play in a big event, he would get crushed. 269 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: And that is perfect evidence that I was right, because 270 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is getting destroyed over not performing. And this 271 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: is what I said at the time. We have different 272 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: standards of expected behavior for male and female athletes. Female 273 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,359 Speaker 1: athletes get held to a lower standard of expected performance, 274 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: get treated better overall by the media, have excuses made 275 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: for them. Again, using Simone Vials and Naomi Osaka as examples, 276 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: whenever you criticize either of those women for not performing 277 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: or not playing, Twitter blue check marks descend upon you 278 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: like a plague to attack you. As you well Knowebuck 279 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: when that happened to you over the Simone Viles situation. 280 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: But Ben Simmons, you just heard what Stephen A. Smith 281 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: said on ESPN and everybody piled on alongside of him 282 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: when Ben Simmons didn't play. I'm starting to think that 283 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: the woke left is lacking principles and standards and how 284 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: they apply them. So I'm starting to get things. Starting 285 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: to think there's some hypocrisy sometimes among Democrats out there 286 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: and the way they view a whole range of issues 287 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: depending on their personal political preferences and what they need 288 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: in the moment, which of course is also why bringing 289 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: it all back the notion of a free and fair 290 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: and open system for sharing ideas and thoughts, Yeah, that's 291 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: that's something that really worries them. It's also worries them again. 292 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: You have to analyze the victimization pyramid to determine how 293 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: almost anything is going to play on Twitter right now. Now, 294 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe Elon must can fix that. But if you're a 295 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: woman athlete, than anybody who criticizes you is sexist. It's unacceptable. 296 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: You're a male athlete who doesn't play open season, everybody 297 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: can tee off. Many people are of the belief that 298 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: American citizens are more divided than ever. It's not just 299 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: over what policies will improve our great country. No, it's 300 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: over whether America is great at all. Crazy as it sounds, 301 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: that's a real debate. That's why Imprimus, Hillsdale College's monthly 302 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: speech digest, is so important. And Primus looks at the 303 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: issues of the day from a constitutional perspective, reminding citizens 304 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: always of our great heritage of liberty and why our 305 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: country is so special. For fifty years, and Primus has 306 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: featured speeches given at Hillsdale events by the smartest conservative 307 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: thinkers and writers these days. Hillsdale publishes people like Victor 308 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: Davis Hanson, Molly Hemingway, Mark Stein, and Chris Rufo. Over 309 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: six point two million American households and businesses receive in 310 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: Primus absolutely free. If you're not already subscribing, we urge 311 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: you to sign up for it today at absolutely no charge. 312 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: Our friends at Hillsdale want you to have a free 313 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: subscription as well. To get your free subscription today, go 314 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: to Clayan Buck for Hillsdale dot com. That's Clayan Buck 315 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: for a Hillsdale dot com walk back in play Travis 316 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: buck Sexton show rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program, 317 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: where you're joined now by Douglas Murray, Associate editor of 318 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: the Spectator and author of the new book The War 319 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: on the West. And Douglas, we've been talking a lot 320 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: about potential impacts of evon Musk buying Twitter. But I'm 321 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: curious in your analysis, when did this War on the 322 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: West really start? Is there a moment in time when 323 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: you can point to it and say this was the 324 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: pivot point, This is when this idea sort of became 325 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: ascendant that the West was more of a problem than 326 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: it was something to be praised. Well, it's great to 327 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: be with you. I think there have been a number 328 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: of moments, but one of them is just the post 329 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: colonial period, the period since the country like Great Britain 330 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: where I was born myself, stopped having colonies and independence 331 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: came to these countries. There started a movement of post 332 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: colonialism that in large parts sort of saw itself as 333 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: a rejection of the West. And there are people in 334 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: the West who took part in the back themselves. The 335 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties generation, ninety sixty eighth generation, then the nineteen 336 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: seventies he started an American academics playing around with these 337 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: things we now call CRT and much more. And then 338 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: it's accelerates and accelerates. I say in my book, you know, 339 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: you can sometimes over emphasize what happens on campuses, but 340 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: so I like this to say, well, what's happening in 341 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the wider culture as well. And think back twenty years 342 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: ago or so when Michael Moore published his book Stupid 343 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: White Men and has a chapter saying that if you 344 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: look at any problem in world history, it's a white 345 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: person that's behind it. This stus stuts be normalized in 346 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: the dialogue, starts be normalized in the conversation. You have 347 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: the starting slowly, to begin slowly and then fast pulling 348 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: down all of the heroes of countries like ours. In 349 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Great Britain, Churchill turns from a national hero to a 350 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: national demon, where his statue is unsafe to even have 351 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: out in Parliament Square in Westminster because people assault it, 352 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: because he's guilty of living in the nineteenth century and 353 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: having had nineteenth century thought. And then in America, the 354 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: war begins not just on white people in America, but 355 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: specifically on every single hero of the American Republic, every 356 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: one of the founding fathers. Then it speeds up and 357 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: it speeds up, and it's not just the people on 358 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: the South in the Civil War, but they're even the 359 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: North Suddenly Abraham Lincoln not a hero of American history, 360 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: but a great villain. You have the whole founding date 361 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: of America moved by the New York Times, by the 362 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Paper of Record to sixteen nineteen, so that everything in 363 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: American history is seen in a negative hospie life. So 364 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: this country of America, the greatest experiment on earth, is 365 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: not a story of triumphs that you want to aspire to, 366 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: but a story of racism, slavery, and just embarrassment and 367 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: shame that has been growing for decades, and in the 368 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: last couple of years it's just gone on heat and 369 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: it's smashed through every single thing in the culture Douglas's buck. 370 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that you point out 371 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of the book I think is so interesting is there 372 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: are these very rapidly evolving and obviously very hypocritical standards 373 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: that they'll use for people in the past being judged 374 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: by the leftist ideology of the moment, But they don't 375 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: do this to leftists in the past. You point out 376 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: that marks Karl Marx, whose work is full of racial 377 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: slurs and anti semitism, he gets a pass. I mean, 378 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: the repression and virulent anti gay actions of even someone 379 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: like a che Guevara. They don't deal with that. So 380 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: it feels like they just weaponize this new ideology or 381 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: the the fad of the political fad of the moment 382 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: against certain people in the past. And to what end, 383 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what are they trying to do? What are 384 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: they trying to achieve with all this? Well, you're you're 385 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: quite right. I mean, I quote one of the great 386 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: racist tusters of our day, the man who calls himself 387 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: ibrahm x Kendy Kendy is you attacks Thomas Jefferson because 388 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: of one excerpt from a letter of Thomas Jefferson's that 389 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: he totally misrepresents and as a result of which labels 390 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson a racist. So I say, okay, so you've 391 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: decided that Thomas Jefferson is a racist, everybody in the 392 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: past is a racist. Well why don't you say this 393 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: about Karl Marx? And when since my book has come out, 394 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: I've did out today. They've been excerpts in recent weeks, 395 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: including this point about Karl Mark. I've had loads of 396 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: Marxists come out of the woodwork and say, well, Karl 397 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: Marx was a man of his time, like Thomas Jefferson. 398 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Then they say things like, we don't look to Marks 399 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: for his amazing views on race. We actually look to 400 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Mark solely for his economic theories, and think, oh, whereas, 401 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: of course everybody in modern America could only admire Thomas 402 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Jefferson only because of his attitudes on race, of course 403 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: not we admire Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers because 404 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: they found in America. So these people keep demonstrating the 405 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: fact that they've rigged a game. They've rigged a game 406 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: which is anti Western, anti white, anti American in particular. 407 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: And you ask why they do it, I'll tell you 408 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: why they do it. They talk of this as if 409 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: it was about justice. It isn't about justice. It's about revenge. 410 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: It's revenge. The whole thing is revenge on America, revenge 411 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: on white people, revenge on the West. It is a 412 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: completely racist movement that has got hold in our time, 413 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: and I want to arm people with the facts. We 414 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: need to push this movement out of our lives. Do 415 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: you think we will win. I think that's a big question, 416 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: right because people look around many of our listeners and say, 417 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: I never would have believed that the United States would 418 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: be as crazy as it is right now. And crazy 419 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: is obviously a broad category, but you look around on 420 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: a day to day basis, and we really have, it seems, 421 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: lost control of our faculties. So will we win this battle? 422 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: And if so, how do we win this battle? From 423 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: your perspective, Well, you know, here is what white Americans 424 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: and white people in the West are being told at 425 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the moment. We are being told that we are uniquely guilty. 426 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: We're guilty of things that happened centuries before we're born. 427 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: We are born into guilt. Everyone else is born into innocence. 428 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Nobody else has anything else to atone for except for us. 429 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: We are told that everything in our history is rotten. 430 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: All of our heroes were scoundreled. We have nothing to 431 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: be proud of. We never did anything good in the world. 432 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: Everything we ever did was bad. Our whole culture is rotten, racist, 433 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: riven through with white supremacy, and much more so. The 434 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: best thing we can do is to be born, discover 435 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: how guilty we are, and then die as soon as possible. 436 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: Now here's a proposal for you. I think if you 437 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: tried to do this, if you tried to argue this 438 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: and make people believe this from a minority community, it 439 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't work. Who would want to be told that the 440 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: year upon year, for generation upon generation. I don't think 441 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: it would work with a minority. Here's the thing. The 442 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: race husters, many of whom are white themselves, like Robindiangela. 443 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: The race husters are trying to make a majority population 444 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: believe this about themselves, a majority population in the United Kingdom, 445 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: a majority population in the United States of America. And 446 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: I do not believe in the long term that that 447 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: can succeed what majority population would put up with this 448 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: for very long? You know, I believe most American people, 449 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: like most other people in the West and indeed in 450 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, want to think well of themselves, 451 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: want to have justifiable pride in the things they've done well. 452 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: They don't want to hate their fourbars. We're only here 453 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: because of our fourbears, you know. I quote branch Ricky said, 454 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: one luck is the residue of design. We in America 455 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: are in the luckiest damned country in the world. And 456 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: we have the evidence for it. It's the country that 457 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: most people in the world want to come to. Now. 458 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Is that simply because of what we are now? No, 459 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: it's because of what we were. It's because of the 460 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: people who came before us. It's because of the generations 461 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: who came before us. It's because of the founding Fathers, 462 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: It's because of Lincoln, it's because of all of the 463 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: heroes of America. So here's the thing. I think they 464 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: have no chance, no chance at all, these racists, these 465 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: new races of persuading the American people in the Western 466 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: public's as a whole of this horrible, horrible anti white, 467 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: anti Western, anti American stuff, unless they've persuade us that 468 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: their lies are true. And my self appointed task, among 469 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: other things in the war in the West, is to 470 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: show people, to give people the ammunition to fight back 471 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: against these people. Every parent in America knows what it's 472 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: like when their child comes home and has imbibed this 473 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: racist pap from the classroom, all this stuff. They know 474 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: what it's like. They know what it's like when their 475 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: kids returned from school and have been told all these 476 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: monstrous lies about American history. We need to be armed 477 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: to respond to this, and I believe that if we are, 478 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: there's no way that the new race hucksters can win 479 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: war on the West. That is the book by Douglas Murray. 480 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Douglas great to have you with usnack so much. It's 481 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: a great pleasure. Arlene is a California resident and an 482 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: everyday radio listener. For years. She used to have a 483 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: hard time getting up in the morning due to various 484 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: aches and pains. As she heard the commercials airing for 485 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: a relief Factor, they motivated her to try it out. 486 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Alf She tried the three week Quickstart pack from Relief 487 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Factor and it worked. The eggs and pains that she 488 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: used to fill in the morning completely gone. Created by doctors, 489 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: perfected over fifteen years of scientific research, relief Factor was 490 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: made for you four key ingredients, one hundred percent drug 491 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: free product which goes right to our lean's pain. Hundreds 492 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: of thousands of people have ordered, seventy percent of them. 493 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: Go on to order more. You can join the more 494 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: than half million people order the three week Quickstart for 495 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: only nineteen ninety five. Go to relief Factor dot com. 496 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: You can also call eight hundred four relief get the 497 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five three week quickstart developed specifically for you 498 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: at relief factor dot com or call eight hundred the 499 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: number four relief Move More, Live more, just enjoy your 500 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: life more with relief Factor is heading to ters potentially 501 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: coming off. Do you speak about anything that Test Environment 502 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: has done to determine the sources cons Oh, she just 503 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: walked out on them. Apparently Jensaki gets asked a question 504 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: there by a journalist about what Biden's doing to find 505 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: out shouldn't shouldn't we know the origins of COVID? My friends, 506 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to stop talking about so much when 507 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: it comes to COVID, especially now that it seems the 508 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: guardrails on Twitter when it comes to COVID conversation may 509 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: be removed. Let's let's be clearly that is one of 510 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: the main areas of their suppression campaign along here has 511 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: been getting rid of our ability to have honest discussions 512 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: about the what they call disinformation. They Twitter was saying 513 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: it was disinformation to talk about the origins of COVID 514 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: in China? Isn't it fascinating? Clay China has concentration camps 515 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: right now today, But the notion that they might have 516 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: been engaged in some biological research in a lab that 517 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: we know is doing virus research, and weren't exactly honest 518 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: when they had a little mistake moment that was beyond 519 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: the pale. No, No, it came from a pangulin or 520 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: was it a bat? Or was it a bat? Then 521 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: a panglin then but they never found the intermediary species, 522 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: which they've done in the past when there have been outbreaks, 523 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: like with stars before. But it was disinformation. Let's be honest. 524 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: Did you know what a penguin was? When this girl 525 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: I had no idea? Why? I feel like I'm pretty 526 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: good with the knowing what the animals are in general, 527 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: and I was like a pangolin? I had know How 528 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: about the fact that they sold the idea that the 529 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: wet market, which was basically right next door to the 530 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: virology the laboratory, that they sold that from the get 531 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: go and got so many people to buy into it 532 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: when any if you just you know, Okam's razor, if 533 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: you just basically looked at the facts and eliminated everything else, 534 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: you'd be like, well, probably the highly infectious disease came 535 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: from the highlish highly infectious disease laboratory, Right if you 536 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: were just thinking about what the most likely outcome for 537 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: how covid arose. That would clearly be it. And the 538 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: wet market situations also fascinating. That's not a it's not 539 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: a rarity in China for their bavis. It's really every 540 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: like an exotic animal food market. And it really stretches 541 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: back to Mao because Mao's greatly forward and agricultural policies 542 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: which led to the Great Famine and the massive starvation 543 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: of millions and millions of Chinese. One of the things 544 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: that people did just to try to survive was to 545 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: begin to cultivate these very well, these wild and in 546 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: some cases even rare species for food. That's the origins 547 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: of the web market. So this is all over China, 548 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: and then the Chinese Communist Party, it's become so much 549 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: a part of Chinese culture. Chinese Commist Party makes money 550 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: off of these wet markets, obviously, so they don't really 551 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: want They've started to shut them down in resears. They 552 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: don't really shut them down though, because it's a source 553 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: of profits. But think about that bad central planning led 554 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: to the wet markets, which they which the wet market 555 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: of this case was next to the virus Research Lab, 556 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: which is also the product of their central planning and 557 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: lack of accountability and transparency. But I just note that 558 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: BID administration. You think that they want to find out 559 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: that we were right and they were wrong on yet 560 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: another issue. No, I do not think they want to 561 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: do a thorough, deep dive investigation in the origins of COVID. 562 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: Now you really can't do it either, based on how 563 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: long it has been since COVID initially emerged. We had 564 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: the WHO investigation, which was complete joke, and I don't 565 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: think we're ever going to have a definitive this is 566 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: where COVID came from story, and so for one hundred 567 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: percent certainty, which is why I think you have to 568 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: look at all the surrounding circumstances. And by the way, 569 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: the result the CDC, to the extent you still trust them, 570 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: came out with data earlier today, Buck, and we've been 571 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: talking about what percentage of people have natural immunity and 572 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: the population. Seventy five percent of kids, according to CDC 573 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: data in February, have been exposed to COVID fifty eight 574 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: percent of adults. I don't even think seventy five percent. 575 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean antibodies they have, they basically were they were 576 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: infected and had an asymptomatic case. Right, I mean, we've 577 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: all seven one hundred percent of America, unless you literally 578 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: lived in a basement that you did not have been 579 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: exposed and did not see a human being, has been exposed. 580 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: But I mean three out of five people, I mean, 581 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: I play just sent this to me in the break. 582 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: It's a CNBC piece here, it's but just based on 583 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: a new CDC analysis, three out of five people now 584 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: have antibodies from a previous COVID infection, so solidly from 585 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: the vaccine. These are people who actually had COVID in recovery. 586 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: So sixty percent of America basically got got COVID, is 587 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: what they're telling us. I still think that number is 588 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: probably a little low, well, probably because a lot of 589 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: people's immunity would have faded. This is in February the number, 590 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: So if you got it back in November or July 591 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: or September of twenty twenty, you might not have tested positive. 592 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: But the wild thing is even right now by the 593 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: CDC's owned data in February buck seventy five percent of 594 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: kids sixty four percent. I believe the number is between 595 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: eighteen and forty nine year old. Hold on a second, 596 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: are you telling me that children intermittently putting little Batman 597 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: cloth masks on their faces during their school day didn't 598 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: keep them so safe from the virus that wasn't even 599 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: a danger to them in the first place. Gosh, almost 600 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: like what we've been saying for two years now. Think 601 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: about the numbers there, Buck. If seventy five percent of children, 602 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: even by the CDC's own data in February, already have 603 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: had and recovered from COVID, the chances of your kid 604 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: getting COVID and dying from it are we've said infinitesimally 605 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: small for a long time. They're actually even tinier than 606 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: we would have ever leaved in the past. I mean, 607 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: these numbers again, just coming out from the CDCCNBC writing 608 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: about it just further illustrates that we don't need to 609 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: do anything to kids. Your kids don't need a COVID shot. 610 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: They've probably already had it. Clay One fun thing to 611 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: end the day, Joe Biden, apparently speaking of the Batman movie. 612 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman Biden has a different name for him, 613 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Commissioner Gary Batman. Done for being here, as well. It 614 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: sounded a lot like he said, Gary Batman. To be fair, 615 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Gary Batman, By the way, I'm getting blown up about 616 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: your review of the Batman movie. Seeople are furious people 617 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: are just sharing a review with me. I just want 618 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: to say to everybody out there about the Batman movie 619 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: that we are all entitled to our opinions, and people 620 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: who like this new Batman movie are entitled to their 621 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: wrong opinion on the movie. That's fine. I don't I 622 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm getting blowback over your back. They think 623 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna get me to be saying, Clay, that's the idea. 624 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of 625 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: truths