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Speaker 1: to tip. This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It's the seventh of September twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, and we are old and pathetic.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, that's the name of this podcast. It was Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: We're changing it to Old Empathetic. I am merely one

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Speaker 2: half of your hosting duo. I join you from the

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Speaker 2: capital of Estatus dust right here in Washington, DC. My

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Speaker 2: name is Luke Thomas. I'm joined by the worst dad.

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Speaker 2: Well actually he's a great dad, but he is just

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Speaker 2: a pathetic loser as well. Look at this, look at

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Speaker 2: look at how he is. I mean, who has more

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Speaker 2: divorced dad energy for a married man on earth besides

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell? Right now? What's up? King?

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Speaker 4: Wow? Look, this was a harsh opening here.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're, like Deontay one said, you speak it,

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Speaker 4: believe it, you receive it. Luke, you are washed. So

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Speaker 4: thank you very much. You know, I thought i'd bring

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Speaker 4: the one love hat back into rotation to not only

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Speaker 4: show off my high tee, but you know it's time.

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Speaker 4: It's time to unify.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's let it's time for you and me to

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Speaker 4: get off of our angry soap boxes, stop pointing the

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Speaker 4: finger at each other, and take this show to the

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Speaker 4: next level.

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Speaker 2: God damn it, it certainly is. BC. I jacked my

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Speaker 2: backup yesterday. I am I'm gonna let your boys in

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Speaker 2: a little bit of pain.

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Speaker 4: Why are you blaming the Lord for that? Just curious?

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm just getting old sucks. Getting old sucks

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Speaker 2: is really the only part about it is that that matters.

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Speaker 2: I'm just doing basic things and then you're back completely.

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Speaker 4: Legaluse I talk to him, he said, it's your fall

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Speaker 2: He's right, he's telling the truth. But you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna make it through today's show. Everything's fine, but god,

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Speaker 2: it sucks getting old. I want to remind everyone, as

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Speaker 2: Showtime is the label that pays. You can go to

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Speaker 2: showtime dot com get a thirty day free trial. If

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Speaker 2: you like it, you can keep it, If not, you

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Speaker 2: can bounce. Also, BC, we didn't talk about this as

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Speaker 2: I unders and I think for an additional seven or

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Speaker 2: Either way, you got to.

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Speaker 4: Say call that a bundle. I call it a fundle Luke, Okay,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of good times and great oldies there.

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Speaker 4: You get Parabo. I think you get CBS News. You

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Speaker 4: But you get my point. You get a lot of

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Speaker 4: good shit. So shout out to our people at showtime,

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Speaker 4: and Luke shout out to Showbox the new generation, which

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that Atlantic City, the land that time forgot.

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Speaker 4: What are you Heraldo in front of the al Capone vault? Luke?

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Speaker 4: I wish you would start taking it more often so

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Speaker 4: I mean, Luke, hang out in a cemetery or a

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Speaker 4: But I think this was Gone trying to reverse his fortune,

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Speaker 4: That's big to me. Dude, talk me off the serial

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that if your argument is in rally

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Speaker 4: Can I critically cross examine you, Luke?

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Speaker 4: Okay, a few things here I had already hinted at

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Speaker 4: I will hedge that now I'm suddenly becoming Gon's biggest

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Speaker 4: You know, Derek Lewis was a big one to get

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Speaker 4: Gon does best. So while you're saying you thought Gon's striking,

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Speaker 2: Regrets? You could make the argument from certainly from his

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Speaker 4: Okay, But let's be fair, hair, did it regress from

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to take those chances to finish these

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Speaker 4: even though I've been almost the biggest critic of Touivasa's

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Speaker 4: the betting odds only because what did tui Vasa show

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Speaker 4: that there is a deep rooted cyborg level of recuperative skills.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost gay Chee like to keep coming

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Speaker 4: Tuivasa in many ways, Luke. He showed that he can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really. I mean, it's a nice win,

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Speaker 2: you were you know, yes, he was heavily favored to win,

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Speaker 2: very difficult to do. I accept and recognize he took

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Speaker 2: Which is going to say he hasn't addressed it BC,

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Speaker 2: That's not my argument either. I'm just saying the thing

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Speaker 2: but still those things are out there. Certainly, if he

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Speaker 2: But that's not to me as significant a finding as

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Speaker 4: This is a case of where you're not wrong, because

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Speaker 4: for Blades. Yes, but Luke, you're telling me you saw

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Speaker 4: this same intention in him previously, that if he's got

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't think. I don't think that's nearly as

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let's say he gets into another fight like

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Speaker 4: he can dig down into that place. Luke, you can't

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Speaker 4: look at him and just say point fighter. I don't

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Speaker 2: Ghanempting accepting more risk against the guy you're much better

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Speaker 4: I don't think he can. I don't think the gone

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Speaker 4: have to show a ground gain, yes, Luke, but he's

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Speaker 4: Mio chicch.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is what are the lacks in his is

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Speaker 4: But significantly more durable.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Yes, yeah, dude, Francis is durable as ship Bo's

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he opened up against the guy he

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Speaker 2: what you're doing I have to do with any of

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Speaker 4: You're being your dad right now. You like, oh, good job, son,

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Speaker 4: it on varsity. Then, no, Luke, we learned something here, Okay, Luke,

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Speaker 2: We lied to Moss is a very tough challenge, but

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Speaker 2: So I a should say this, what do we learn

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Speaker 2: I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes fights go there, Luke, And now we know

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Speaker 4: you're missing this, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not missing it. You want me to

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Speaker 4: I want you to give the restaurant a five star

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Speaker 2: of other competitors. But as it relates to the guys

433
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 2: in front of him, that he has to fight to

434
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 2: I think recapture what he hasn't to this point, I

435
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 2: don't know that that performance by itself tells us a

436
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,919
Speaker 2: whole lot. That's my only position, however, BC, what I

437
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 2: will say is what did you make of that comen

438
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: event Robert Whittaker defeating Marvin Vttori? And I gotta say,

439
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 2: careful first round, fair enough, second round. You see Whittaker

440
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 2: start to pull away. Third round. I thought he hurt

441
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 2: Vittori with that headkick worse than I've ever seen anyone

442
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 2: hurt Vittori during his entire UFC run. Robert Whittaker looked

443
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 2: phenomenal in this contest.

444
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 4: True, did I not predict this exactly that Whittaker would

445
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,479
Speaker 4: dominate one sided but still win a three round decision.

446
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not surprised, mother Effort. Whittaker is as

447
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 4: he said, you know, aside from the champion, he's the

448
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 4: baddest dude in this division, and he even historically, Luke,

449
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 4: you know Anderson Silva middleweight goat for sure. But like

450
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 4: this is why I want Whittaker and now to sign

451
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 4: to end up in a trilogy, because Luke, these are

452
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 4: the these are the guys of this era. He is

453
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 4: levels above his bit and he knew it. That's why

454
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 4: he wasn't rattled when Vittori tried to get in his face. Luke,

455
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 4: to me, even though people are saying like, holy crap, man,

456
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 4: Whittaker is still really damn good, except for those two

457
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 4: fights in which it was close but or you're not

458
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 4: close in the first one. But except for out of

459
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: Sonya kind of having his number. I actually came away

460
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: from here with the other side of it saying Vittori's

461
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 4: got like legitimate questions to answer of him, to ask

462
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 4: of himself in the mirror, because Luke, he's he's trying

463
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 4: against the elites to almost act not like a point fighter.

464
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he's putting on pressure, but I don't see

465
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 4: a delivery system in getting off the explosive nature of

466
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 4: his game. Like he's got an explosive personality. He comes

467
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 4: in there, aggressive, he lives and dies by his chin.

468
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 4: He does have if he's able to take you down.

469
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 4: Whittaker is not going to be the type of guy

470
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 4: you can man handle, though he does obviously can get

471
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 4: you down. It can work the top game, but I

472
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 4: almost feel like he's gonna have to look in the

473
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 4: mirror and ask himself, do I need to dumb down

474
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 4: my style and my ambitions to try to be as

475
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 4: elite as these foes, And think, look, you know, if

476
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in there for fifteen minutes with

477
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 4: a guy skills wise this much better than me and

478
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 4: I'm not closing that gap, I gotta go for it.

479
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: I gotta inflict damage. He's a big mother f for Luke,

480
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: and he comes in there with an attitude, but I

481
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 4: don't see that translated into the way he tries to

482
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 4: get his offense off. I almost feel like somebody told

483
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 4: him he's at this level in terms of his skills

484
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 4: and his striking, and it's become now twice a harsh

485
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 4: reminder that he isn't Luke. Am I being a total jerk?

486
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 4: And this is about Whittaker's greatness. I mean, I still

487
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: think there's time for Vittori, but not this road, not

488
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: this way that he's doing it.

489
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: I think we're mostly in agreement about Vittoria. Here's what

490
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: I said, and BCE tell me if you think this

491
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: is on or off, which was like, I don't know

492
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: enough video games to know if this analogy is correct,

493
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 2: but if you were looking at the individual pieces of

494
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: Vittore's game, you would rate each piece fairly high, right, Like,

495
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: how good is his striking. It's not the best in

496
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: the division, but it's good. How's his wrestling, Again, far

497
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: from the best in the division, but it's good. Cardio, actually,

498
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: I would put that is very good. He trains very hard, physicality,

499
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: very good. But in terms of the skills of fighting,

500
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu, wrestling, striking, all that kind of stuff, everything

501
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: he does is good, but it's very conventional. It's just

502
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: it's stuck to the basics. He doesn't have the development

503
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: of any one particular skill that really gives him an

504
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: edge over his competitors. He has a decent rating in

505
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: all of the different parts of the game, but no

506
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: ace in the hole, and even as he combines them all,

507
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: it just sort of combines to be a very conventional game.

508
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: He goes for press doubles against the fence, he's sort

509
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: of jabbing and one twoing his way. Inside kicking is

510
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: sort of, you know, leg kicking on the inside, a

511
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: little bit head kicking here on, and then that. There's

512
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: nothing super sophisticated. Sitting up. He does it like Charles Lavera.

513
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 2: I've talked about this before. He didn't just add new

514
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: dimensions to his game, right, he actually dialed back to the

515
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu a little bit to let the other parts

516
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: come to life. But he really, really, really really worked

517
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: on his skill development. It seems to me that still

518
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: in his twenties, Marvin Vtori has the physical tools and

519
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: a good foundation. I do think he's got a good

520
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: foundation BC, But the thing I think that is missing

521
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: for me is he just really hasn't had time or

522
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't fully developed any particular part of the overall

523
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: MMA game, striking rest of whatever one he wanted to do,

524
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: which again would just really be a problem because he

525
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 2: is so far ahead of his competitors with it. No,

526
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: he's a jack of all trades, master of none to

527
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: a fault. I would argue, yeah, because you want to

528
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: be well balanced at MMA. But that's what's missing for me.

529
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: That's a more polite way to say it. Yeah, for sure.

530
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 4: And look, it's like for somebody that tries to play

531
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 4: the jab encounter game with somebody like Whitaker, and you

532
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 4: saw the results. He doesn't have the head movement or

533
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 4: defense to attempt that type of stretch. You know what

534
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 4: I'm saying, so there are sortin while he's fairly even

535
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: across the board and maybe lacking something spectacular, I think

536
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: the defensive hole against the elites is wide open in

537
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: that regard Luke, and luckily for him, he's so tough

538
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: that he's able to hang in there. And but if

539
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: he's gonna be that tough and be willing to take

540
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: that level of punishment, I want to see him swinging

541
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: big on the other side and at least making it

542
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 4: more of a risk reward for his opponents on you know,

543
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: walking him down and surgically picking him apart. Because I

544
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: never felt like Whittaker was in any level of danger.

545
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's see when it comes to that though,

546
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: that to me, I give a credit to Whittaker, because

547
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 2: if you're Vittri, you can say, oh, go for it,

548
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: but go for it like just you know, you're barely

549
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 2: moving about. Like the point. The problem is that he

550
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: can't find him, and when he tries to find him,

551
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: he misses, and then when he not only misses, he

552
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: gets countered big time. And he's trying to avoid that,

553
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: not in some kind of self preservation way, just in

554
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: a this doesn't work kind of way. He could not

555
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: find an actual way to put meaningful offense together. That

556
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: is the result of having and he even said it

557
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: in Italian afterwards when they translated it, that was any

558
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: elite opponent he had, That's a very elite opponent. So

559
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: we see, let me ask you this question, bringing it

560
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 2: back to Robert Whittaker. We've got Izzy ticking on padata

561
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: here in just a couple of months, not far from

562
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: where we are right now, and between us, as a

563
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: matter of fact, where does Robert Whittaker fit into that fight?

564
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: Because if I is he wins, he might go to

565
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: two o five, but you could maybe do a third

566
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: Robert Whittaker fight. I don't know if the champ wants it,

567
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: but that's on the table. But if Preeda wins, are

568
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: they going to give Izzy an automatic rematch because he's

569
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 2: been undefeated for so long? And if so, where does

570
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: Whittaker go from there? How do you think he fits

571
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: into that picture?

572
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a different situation than the same type

573
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: of sort of bottleneck title picture discussions we have, and

574
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's obviously rare for somebody to be

575
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: talking about getting the third fight with somebody they lost

576
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: twice to yet suddenly it feels like not as it

577
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: feels like we're talking about a lot more, you know

578
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: what I mean. We just saw Volkanovsky and Holloway, get it.

579
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: We were talking about Joanna and Rose for a while,

580
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: Like it seems like we're now bringing this idea back

581
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 4: into the fold. It makes more sense for Whittaker because

582
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: he's of that ill not only a former champion, but

583
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 4: he's showing you time and again the three fights between

584
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: the Atasnja losses and now this one that he's just

585
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 4: short of that level. And what level am I talking

586
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: about Adasnya being on his way to being one of

587
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: the greatest that level, Like he's just short of that

588
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 4: to some, I mean he's in he's a great luke.

589
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: So I personally again believe if Adasnya wins, there's really

590
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: and I don't think the UFC would have the leverage

591
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: to make it. Like at least here's the deal, the

592
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: Max versus Volkanovski rivalry. At least there were a lot

593
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: of us, a lot of us saying in the second fight, man,

594
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: I really thought Holloway won it. By the way, I

595
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 4: still think Whittaker won the second fight against ad Asanya

596
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 4: I just don't see that same push from the media

597
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: and fans, you know, as if that's actual currency to

598
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 4: the match making. Sometimes it is most likely it's not,

599
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: But I you know, maybe because Max is so beloved,

600
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 4: there seemed to be more of a call for that

601
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 4: third fight to sort of answer some question of did

602
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: we get it wrong? Where people aren't saying that about

603
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: the Whittaker out Asnia rivalry. Maybe it's because the first

604
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: fight ended a knockout, or maybe it's because people didn't

605
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: score it as close for Whittaker as I did. But

606
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: I don't think aud Asanya has anything to gain by

607
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: fighting him a third time, and I don't think the

608
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: UFC could really put the pressure onto leverage this. It

609
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 4: would just make so much more sense, given how he's

610
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 4: cleaned out the division, for ad Asanya to move up

611
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 4: with a win. If he loses, Yes, we're gonna have

612
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: an interesting discussion. Is that the kind that needs an

613
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: immediate rematch? Or could you see Whittaker instantly subbed in

614
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: if I'm the promotion Luke, I do that? Why? Because

615
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: either way you're gonna get an at asnya rematch to

616
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: the title after that, right?

617
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: Yep? You could do that, I mean, but it depends.

618
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: It depends. Okay, let's say put at A knocks. Let's

619
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: say at Asnya controls for a round and a half

620
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: and then gets knocked out. You kind of gotta go

621
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: back to Attasnia at that point. Probably right, It's a.

622
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Little bit more if I think if you gets put out,

623
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: they might move on. Sounds crazy and probably maybe I'm wrong.

624
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: It's hard to know exactly what they might do. Because

625
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: here's the thing. If Izzy is now in a place

626
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: where I can certainly recognize after his fight against Kennony

627
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: or the fans are a little bit displeased with him, right,

628
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: and so there wouldn't this would there be a big

629
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: push for Izzy to get a rematch in terms of

630
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: the fans sentiment, the commercial appeal. I don't know about that.

631
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, especially if he gets his lights put

632
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: out completely. So it's hard to say exactly if he

633
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: gets If he gets robbed or it's very close, then

634
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: that might be different.

635
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, let's not forget doing as chef Chenko in

636
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: this discussion as well of fights that went right one

637
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: one way and now we're trying a third. But that

638
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: you know, let's say Patata wins, you know, by decision

639
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: and just kind of out out everything's him but doesn't

640
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: knock him out. Then you send Whitaker in there. Look okay,

641
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: Then you get out of Sonya in a get well fight,

642
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: and then you suddenly got out of Sonya versus either

643
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: guy in a rematch that we must freaking see. So damn,

644
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 4: Luke put some I mean, we gotta. I always he's

645
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: had respect on it, but I hope the world's putting

646
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: some respect on the Reaper's name.

647
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Luke.

648
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: I mean, just one of the most resilient, well rounded,

649
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: tough as shit, technically elite, not better than Anasania, has

650
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: not proven that in two fights that he's better Luke,

651
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 4: but one of the greats. We're watching it live in person.

652
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: One of the greats here, just a.

653
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: Guy who and you know, if you watch boxing, you

654
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: get you get a lot more of this. Obviously, it's

655
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: a more limited form of striking in the sense of

656
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: the options that it has. But you know, you see

657
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: a guy like Bud Crawford and he's got a lot

658
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: of different tools, but his timing I go back to

659
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: his finish of Kel Brooke, and I know Kel, you know,

660
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: was certainly a diminished version of himself by the time

661
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: he fought Bud Crawford. But I go back to it.

662
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Look at the punch that Bud Crawford threw that sent

663
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: him packing. It was I mean, he threaded the tiniest

664
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: of needles. Robert Whitaker. I'm not saying he's got Bud

665
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Crawford timing, but he has in terms of Mma striking,

666
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: he has exquisite, exquisite timing, where he is also able

667
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: in a very similar, non identical kind of way to

668
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: thread a very read difficult needed a thread with his timing. You,

669
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: in fact, even heard the commentary TEAMBC talk about it.

670
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: It's not like he's got a ton of different weapons.

671
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: He's not throwing all different kinds of shit. You just

672
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: can't keep up with it. It's just sort of a it's

673
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: a it's a relatively basic amount of options, but the

674
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: way in which he sets it up is so clever,

675
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: so well timed, so disguised, so perfectly placed, that you

676
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 2: know you're just watching. You ever seen that the documentary

677
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Jiro Dreams of Sushi. This dude who makes sushi in

678
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: the Tokyo Subway, He's just he doesn't make a ton

679
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: of different kinds of things. But what he does, the

680
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: craftsmanship around it is super super high. That's Robert Whitaker

681
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: to me.

682
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Luke. That's how I try to envision myself.

683
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: I'm really not good at anything important in life, Luke,

684
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: but my ridiculousness is brilliant.

685
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: You look so pathetic with that sad beard.

686
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: Oh come on, I know that you're an insult my hat.

687
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: The beard hat, you know, high t combo, Luke, It's I.

688
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: Mean, you know, is this the Brian Campbell? I haven't

689
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: showered this morning? Combo?

690
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: Fresh from the shower, Okay, fresh from the barbershop and

691
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: fly from the beauty slune. Yeah, believe me. You want

692
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: to know why Luke his basketball courts in the summer

693
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: got girls there?

694
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I certainly do, and they're not looking for you. Last,

695
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: but not least, from the WEEKENDBC Ruiz Junior Andy Ruiz

696
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: getting the job done against Luis Ortiz. Although it's kind

697
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: of funny, Andy Ruiz drops him three times and wins

698
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: a close, a close decision. How'd you see this fight

699
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: playing obviously?

700
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it playing out kind of exactly as

701
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: it did. Where Yeah, Ruiz the rightful winner when he

702
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: counters and explodes the speed Luke, it's hard for everyweights

703
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 4: to pick up. Rui's not known as a huge puncher,

704
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: but when he lands clean with these kind of counter

705
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: shots that he's loading up, man, it does damage. But

706
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: outside of those, man I kind of scored it like

707
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: everybody else did. Six rounds to six would have been

708
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: a draw. And now that's easy to say. I thought

709
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: Ortiz at forty three, and obviously some people believe he's

710
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: really fifty eight. Luke just fought his hard out, you

711
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean. He's just not the same guy

712
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: as like, let's say, the first Wilder fight. But man,

713
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: does he exhaust every option to try to win, whether

714
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: it's trying to rally in the twelfth or just boxing

715
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: a really smart fight. It's interesting. Ruiza is still, you know,

716
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: heavily flawed and a bit overrated and underrated at the

717
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: same time, meaning he's not gonna be you know, outclassed

718
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: and destroyed by the elites. But if he's gonna beat them,

719
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: I wonder if he's got to continue to kind of

720
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: you know, find that spot in the death star like

721
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: he did when he upset aj in the first one.

722
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: I don't see him throwing enough punches. He wasn't in

723
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: the same shape that he was last fight against Ariola,

724
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: which he was with Canelo's trainer. They put on some

725
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: weights and then third trainer in three consecutive fights, and

726
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 4: it was like there was a lot of good to

727
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: like what I love him against Deontay Wilder if he

728
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: gets best Llennious, Hell yeah, dude. That is a fan

729
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: friendly yet still important for the title picture heavyweight fight.

730
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: That's like slam dunk pay per view. Make it, we'll

731
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: buy it, We'll enjoy it. But he fights in somewhat

732
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: of an all or nothing way because he's just not

733
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: busy enough. Like this was not convincing, and you know

734
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: it's clear because of the knockdowns, but he takes too

735
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: much time off, doesn't commit to getting in shape. Luke,

736
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: he could be and we've been saying this about his

737
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: career by the way back, you know, a decade ago.

738
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: He could be really good if he can put it

739
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: all together. He put it all together for one night

740
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: in sort of a perfect storm of circumstances, but still

741
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: not like all the way there to what I believe

742
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: getting the most out of himself. I don't think you

743
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: can disagree with that.

744
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I disagree with that at all. And

745
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: in fact, I gotta say, like, I know that there

746
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: was a narrative about how hard he had trained. Did

747
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 2: he look like way more in shape to you? I

748
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: don't know that he looked as in shape as I

749
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: was expecting.

750
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: We got full of those those those poses he did

751
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: in that Fox you know pr video that was put out,

752
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: that sizzle reel. You could see the abs, but he's

753
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: also bending forward and flexing when he stands up straight.

754
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: This is the same size he.

755
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: Was first the first first Joshua first.

756
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: Joshua fight, which same exact way, right, So maybe he's

757
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: a little bit more tone. But like once he walked

758
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: down the ring, I was like, oh, I was fooled

759
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: by that video. He's this is not the same guy.

760
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: I mean if even in the way in he looked good.

761
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: But you know, he might have been cutting, you know

762
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: a little bit at the you know, to sometimes heavy

763
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 4: weight to look the last two days, they'll cut a

764
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: little bit and then put it on, put it back on.

765
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 4: But no, man, if he could look it's a different story.

766
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: If he gets in shape. Now, look, he still got

767
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 4: dropped by Ariola, who was, you know, to some degree,

768
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 4: a walking corpse. Although I'll give him a Joe Goosen

769
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: credit for that performance. But if he's not going to

770
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: commit to that shape, he can't win against the elite.

771
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: I don't think he can, Luke.

772
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: You know, like I agree, I agree, he needs to

773
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: be in better shape. Although I will say BC his

774
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: tattoos were good. They were very good. The black people, right,

775
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: they were great, especially his assass.

776
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the Jesus tat and the cross

777
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 4: is on the side, you know, but his his tats

778
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: are They're not my style, Luke. I mean I've seen

779
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: his ass and I look, I really seriously, you know,

780
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: I look at I look at the watermelon vape as

781
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: a as a playful character flaw. You know you're outside

782
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: of that. You got strong morals, you're great teammate, but

783
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: you know your love of Astats is just along with

784
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: death metal is just I just don't I don't think

785
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be able to understand it. Will it be

786
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: enough to break us apart? I don't think so, Luke.

787
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: But you know, if I have to stand on that

788
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: mountain alone, I will, But how do you know as

789
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: for you and your house, how do you stand by this,

790
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: this belief that not only do you like the look,

791
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: but you you want and need your own ass cheeks

792
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 4: to have a man with a needle up right around

793
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 4: the rim luke right like you're like you're a spudweb

794
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: at the eighty six done contest, just barely over that

795
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: rim luke. I don't, I don't. I don't see it.

796
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: I don't get it. In fact, I think there's something

797
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: wrong with you.

798
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but you have a lot of stupid ideas.

799
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: Okay, that's Dana White level defecting, the deflecting. Okay, so

800
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: what do you got here?

801
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: What do you got to do? Why would you want

802
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: a beautiful tattoo covering parts of your body? I don't know.

803
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: There's probably a lot of good reasons. It wouldn't be

804
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: for everybody.

805
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but dude, this isn't like a heart on your

806
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: ass cheek. This is the inner lining, This is grundle,

807
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: This is like the full you know.

808
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know exactly how exactly how

809
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: far Andy Ruiz went, But again, I've talked about this before.

810
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: Covering these parts of your body have both historical significance,

811
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: and they have artistic significance for scale of what you're

812
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: trying to do, Like just getting it above your belt

813
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: line can look really weird, and so getting it let's

814
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: stay here, doesn't historical significance.

815
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: What are we talking about to tribute to the warriors

816
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 4: of of what culture?

817
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: The way? The way? The There's different kinds of body

818
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: suits you can get, but there there are some of

819
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: the original tattooing around Japanese style getting the full body suits.

820
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: This goes back centuries. I mean, it's not something that

821
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: they just decided was fun. There's a historical play into it. Again,

822
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: it's not for everyone. But like the idea that it's

823
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: like automatically stupid or something is kind of bizarre.

824
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 4: I don't quite no, Okay, okay, I'm not going to

825
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 4: be ignorant on that. You see a lot like in

826
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: the Polynesian culture, tattoos are a direct right Tasa.

827
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm imagining he's got one as well.

828
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, all right, well, look, okay, Luke, it's

829
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: fucking weird. Okay, I'm sorry it is at the end

830
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: of the day. All right, thank you very much, thank you.

831
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 4: All right, all right, Well to look quickly quickly Cruz

832
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 4: blew away that dude in the cole Man event called

833
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: out Tank. You saw Gervante shake his head at the

834
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: very least. Cruz deserves a huge name, Luke. I mean,

835
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: this is a good this is a really good performance.

836
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he dusted the guy often too. By the way,

837
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: it's that that video was trending on YouTube as well.

838
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: The number one video though was Nate Diaz and his

839
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: interview that he had. But yes, I agree that Esak

840
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Cruz looked unbelievable, but there's really no interest in a

841
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: fight with Gravant.

842
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: Now, I don't I don't see it. And also Abner

843
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: Marris came back after that long layoff, looked good early,

844
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: fought his way to a draw against Miguel Flores. I

845
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: don't know what he's going to do from here, Luke,

846
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: But if if just getting back here and doing that

847
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: was what he needed to scratch the itch, there were

848
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: there were a lot. There's a lot to like in

849
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: that performance, even though he faded like there was all.

850
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's go to topic number two. So, as

851
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: I mentioned, that is actually currently in the United States,

852
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: the number one trending video on YouTube, which is Nate

853
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: dis spoke to our colleague brettal Komode of ESPN and

854
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: raise a number of issues. Now. By the way, BC,

855
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: as it stands at the moment, we have hamsat Chamaia

856
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: at roughly a minus one thousand or so favorite, Nate

857
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Diaz is a plus seven hundred underdog. Diaz talked about

858
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: taking this fight and putting over Hamzat so to speak. Quote.

859
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: What they've got me doing right now is they're acting

860
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: like I called for this fight, which I didn't call

861
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: for and don't want and didn't want and still don't want.

862
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: But I don't give an f I'll fight anybody. But

863
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: the pressure's on him. He better finish me because he's

864
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: the next killer in town. And if I whip his ass,

865
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna say, oh, he wasn't the best in town.

866
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: But they're not going to let me go. I asked

867
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: for twenty fights, ten fights, fifteen fights. This fight is

868
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: not even about this guy. It's about the making of

869
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: this guy. It's about the making of this mfor And

870
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, well, you guys aren't gonna let me

871
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: go because I'm the best fighter here and you're not

872
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: going to let me go unless it's off of somebody.

873
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: I've got to make somebody for you. All Right, you're welcome.

874
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Let's make this guy. You're welcome. Dubai, you're welcome. All

875
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: you mfers, you're welcome. This is just my halftime show.

876
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm just getting started now. BC. It's kind of weird

877
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: that Diaz would say that he didn't want this fight,

878
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: when in fact I was told that he had specifically

879
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: requested it. I spoke to some folks close to Diaz

880
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: yesterday about these comments, and what they basically told me

881
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: was and you heard him talk about it, so this

882
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: one want to pitch to you. He did, in fact

883
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: ask for the chandlers for the Ferguson, so, by the ways,

884
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: on this card as well, they couldn't do that for

885
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: whatever reason. I don't know what the story is there,

886
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: the Pirias, you named, the Lucas, you name it. They

887
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't give him that. And apparently what ended up happening

888
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: was that Nate was like, well, I got to do

889
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: something for them in order for them to give me

890
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: a fight at a reasonable time. So he just thought,

891
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: who's the toughest, craziest guy that the UFC has that

892
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: they want to promote let's just call him out. They

893
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: called UFC up and said that they this is what

894
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: they wanted, and then they ended up getting it. I

895
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: think I don't know what the UFC was anticipating at

896
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: that point, but they seem to like the idea. So

897
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: it's a bit of both. Right, he didn't want it,

898
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: but I think forced into it. He took it. What

899
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: do you make of forced into it? What do you

900
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: make of these comments from n dis.

901
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got more of these comments to get into specifically,

902
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 4: but I'll start generically. And that was I think the

903
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: juiciest nugget of him revealing in that comment to Brett,

904
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: who's not our colleague, Luke is my former colleague though.

905
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: Well MMA media colleague, maybe.

906
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: My colleague under Joanna's you know, gauging of the best

907
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: looking journalist in mixed Martin.

908
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: I think you want to bang him more than Yoana does.

909
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: I truly believe that.

910
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow, I mean you know, I mean, Brett,

911
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: you don't have to wear the tightest dress shirts and

912
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: then like lean back on the couch for these you

913
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

914
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 5: Guy?

915
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, yeah, there you go. All right, Luke,

916
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 4: let's talk here. The narrative UFC's putting out on this

917
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: fight is that the old legend against the young riser,

918
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: and the old legend once again wants to kill the

919
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: hype of the UFC's next like made man like you

920
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: did against Connor. But the reality that we've been painting

921
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: leading up to this interview, and the reason why I

922
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: put so much onus on this interview, is because outside

923
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: of the quotes he gave UFC contown, I don't think

924
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: Nates talk to anybody else before this, So this is

925
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: really like the first right to he.

926
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Booked to Ariel. He did a long interview with Ariel

927
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, Right, a few weeks ago.

928
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: Okay, I'd have to revisit that apology, Sterel. I must

929
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: have must have forgot that. But here's the deal, Luke.

930
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: The narrative we painted was, you know, oh dirty UFC.

931
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 4: This guy's been trying to get out of his deal

932
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: by forcing you to give him a fight for a year.

933
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: Read what didn't he fight Edwards in April of twenty

934
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: twenty one. You go back over his Twitter profile. It's

935
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: just constant, give me this fight. I want Chandler, give me,

936
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: anybody cut me do whatever. So they're feeding him to

937
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: the largest lye to damage his brand and give hams

938
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: out his fans on the way out. And that is

939
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: the narrative we all stuck with. Although Nate's comments here

940
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: saying I didn't ask for it, dude, UFC's you know,

941
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 4: telling every essentially lying and telling everybody that I did,

942
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 4: tends to double down on that narrative. Watching this as

943
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: a whole, Luke, And look, I mean it's a Diaz

944
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: brother interview, so meaning face value, you can watch it

945
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: and not figure out if he's like the street hero

946
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 4: or he's just crazy and ignorant, Like he can contradict

947
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: himself every other sentence, and there's a major contradiction coming up.

948
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: But in this quote that we're gonna go to. But

949
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, is Nate actually the victim here? Luke?

950
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: Is he a hack? I mean, I know, like his

951
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: story should be the poster story right now in this

952
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: in this narrative window here of like fighter pay being

953
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: a constant topic. We did the resume review, which I

954
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: hope people are checking out on YouTube dot com Slash

955
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: Morning Combat of Nate's great career, and we specifically fight

956
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: by fight leading up to the two Connor fights, and

957
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: the call out after the Michael Johnson fight was just

958
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: like unbelievably low base salary thirty, you know, thirty to

959
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: show no bonus or whatever it was. Yet he's main

960
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: eventing in a title fight on Fox in front of

961
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 4: three and a half million people, you know, time and again.

962
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: So I've always looked at him as like this victim

963
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: and they're holding him back and this fight is about

964
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: him giving the ultimate fu. But I'm serious, after this interview,

965
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much of it is him just

966
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 4: being in his own way. Like, look, let's be really

967
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 4: blunt here about Nate Diaz, Okay, is it that he's

968
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: so true to like his natural default beliefs, which is

969
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: like you know, street tawt a gangster way, or are

970
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: all these comments that fill this interview about him being

971
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: the greatest fighter of all time and you know, almost

972
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: been doing a chill sun and bit that he's never lost.

973
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: Is he a little disillusioned and ignorant? Like because when

974
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: you see all these awful contracts getting signed, and I know,

975
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, history will tell you he had a frontloaded,

976
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: tough deal coming into the UFC in two thousand and seven,

977
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: that did him no favors in the long run, but

978
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 4: they're also negotiating and signing. I think UFC did him

979
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: dirty by making him wait here so he didn't fight

980
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: Jake Paul. But I'm not sure he's always his best

981
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: advocate based on all of these quotes in this interview

982
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: and really his history and interviews is this. Is he

983
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: just so Street Luke that that's what happens or is

984
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: there something to that.

985
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I understand the full nature of your complaint,

986
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: because well, let me let me say how I see it,

987
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: and you tell me what parts I'm either right or

988
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: wrong on listen, I don't imagine that any fighter dealing

989
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: with the UFC is always right, not no one person.

990
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: What they say is biblical. No one person's perspective always

991
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: and in every way has to be acknowledged or you know, respected.

992
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: I suppose it as a sort of a baseline, but

993
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: agreed upon right, Everyone's got their own vision for themselves.

994
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: And so I'm not going to sit here and present

995
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: a case that the Diaz brothers, Nate or Nick, in

996
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: their individual dealings with the UFC, have always been you

997
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: know above reproach that they've never been they've never done

998
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: anything wrong. I don't imagine that that's the case for anybody,

999
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: including them. However, what I would say is, again, going

1000
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: through the resume review, we saw all those cases where

1001
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: he had, you know, constantly to fight someone else's backyard,

1002
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: constantly fighting for certainly in that sort of middle third

1003
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: part of his career ish space, I should say, yeah,

1004
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: around us sort of the second and third part of

1005
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: his career with that intersection moment. But in any case,

1006
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: we're fighting for low purses in this particular moment, BC,

1007
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't really agree that Nate has a whole lot

1008
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: to atone for, only because it wasn't like he was saying, No,

1009
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: wasn't the three years he had taken off. He was

1010
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: trying to fight, and he wasn't trying to fight somebody

1011
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: without a name or someone in some kind of Yes,

1012
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: I know that he mentioned Francis san Gandu, but that

1013
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: was my understanding is that's a function of frustration from

1014
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: not getting the other relevant fights. I mean, consider the

1015
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: UFC already put together a fight between Diaz and Poria

1016
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: that had fallen apart for other reasons. And again, if

1017
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: you want to put some blame on Nate for that,

1018
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: you may do so, but here he is trying to

1019
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: find it again there was interest on the poorier side.

1020
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: They didn't do it Chandler, same thing Ferguson. Whatever the

1021
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: reason was for that, I don't know. It wasn't like

1022
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: he was trying to avoid tough or otherwise meaningful fights.

1023
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: The argument that he is making is what you want

1024
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: me to do is give my star power up to

1025
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: lift someone else up, which we kind of know is

1026
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: a little bit how the fight game works, which he

1027
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 2: relented to it. But you know, keeping a guy under

1028
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: contract extra time not agreeing to fights even though he

1029
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: wants big name contenders that would certainly have been valuable

1030
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: or otherwise you know, the Fambase would have accepted. I

1031
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: don't understand it personally. Again again, help me mis understand

1032
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: what I'm missing about that is so unforgivable.

1033
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 4: Here's the quotes that are fueling my new question about

1034
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 4: this situation. And look, I'm going on record. I've been

1035
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: on record. They did him dirty here by making him wait.

1036
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 4: He was willing to fight anybody Luke. So now he's

1037
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: finally trying to fight their guy, and they even delayed that.

1038
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: But here are the quotes that kind of blew up

1039
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: the internet, taking out of context from this interview. I'm

1040
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 4: on Dana White's side too, Diaz said, it's all love.

1041
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: I understand business, so it's all good with me. Me

1042
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: and Dana always got along about everything too. And I'm

1043
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: not fucking inking real fighting, which is his new combat

1044
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: sports promotion he announced yesterday. We can get to that

1045
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: in a second. Because I'm against anybody. I'm not going

1046
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: anywhere or doing anything. I have no plan for what

1047
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: my next move is. If something happens in this fight,

1048
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: I might just have to re sign to get a rematch.

1049
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: If I don't whip this motherfucker's ask now, then come

1050
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: on regardless of what happens though, and say I leave

1051
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: or do whatever. The best fighters are in the UFC

1052
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: and have been in the UFC for a long time

1053
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 4: and will be for a long time. I'm sure it

1054
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 4: doesn't mean the realest shit is happening in the UFC,

1055
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: But no matter what I do, I'm gonna be in

1056
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: the UFC. End quote. Am I pulling that out of

1057
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 4: context and putting meanings on it that it doesn't I'm

1058
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: not saying he has to pre fight. Tell Dana White

1059
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: to f off. But if our narrative Luke is that

1060
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: he's been done wrong, he essentially just said I got

1061
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: no issue with Dana White again. I'm not saying he

1062
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: has to, but he's essentially saying, you know, and if

1063
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: this fight's good, maybe we'll do it again, and you know,

1064
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be here forever. Look, he might just be

1065
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: trying to protect a bridge and not burn it. And

1066
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: maybe Dana in company are doing the same by talking

1067
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 4: so nice last night in the press conference about him.

1068
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: But Luke, this does not line up with his counterculture actions.

1069
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: Are his you know, anti hero ways or even the

1070
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: poster boy of like got left Over and deserve Better?

1071
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: This is him saying, you know, yeah, it's actually not

1072
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: that bad. I'll go back to the abuser too if necessary.

1073
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: Am I being too harshare Luke? That's that doesn't fit

1074
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 4: the persona that he's lived and died on to get

1075
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: to this point.

1076
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand it does seem somewhat contradictory. On

1077
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: the other hand, part of the way I look at

1078
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: it is if you and you alluded to it, if

1079
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: you just look at the way Dana White is talking

1080
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 2: about Diaz now boy, they are showering him with praise

1081
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: this week, and if you look at the countdown, I

1082
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: thought they made him look good on that. And again,

1083
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: why is everyone? Why is there this komitee all of

1084
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: a sudden last minute, It is very strange. I get

1085
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: the sense that I don't think a UFC return is

1086
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: on the table, certainly right now, but I get the

1087
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: sense based on what Diaz is saying and what Dana

1088
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: is saying, that that's not off the table completely either.

1089
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: So it seems like they if they can retain his

1090
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: services under some position, they will. Though again my best

1091
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: guess is that date excuse me dumb, that Nate is

1092
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: going to seek free agency. But I don't know, man, Like,

1093
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: if you're thirty seven years old, you're at the end

1094
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: of your contract, you're gonna be getting out. You got

1095
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: this other stuff going on. Who knows if we'll get

1096
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: a boxing fight with Jake Paul down the road, if

1097
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: that's the thing that he wants. Like, are you supposed

1098
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: to hold on to all of this animosity the whole time?

1099
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: I get that, Like, oh, me and Dana, I get

1100
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: we're on the same team and your team UFC and

1101
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: all this shit it's a little bit strange. I agree.

1102
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: I agree. On the other hand, your focus has to

1103
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: be on the fight this weekend, whatever you have going

1104
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: on after that, testing the waters of free agency, which

1105
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: again could bring you back to UFC. That is a possibility,

1106
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: however remote one wants to make it. And so I

1107
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: just feel like it's, you know, why focus all of

1108
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: your attention on all of these past misd's, which is

1109
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: not that he's never raised the alarm about. It's like,

1110
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: at this point, what does it matter. It's all going

1111
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: to come to an end. You can make the decision

1112
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: about the next chapter, and if the UFC is going

1113
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: to be nice to you on your way out, you

1114
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: can return the favor a little bit. Maybe I'm defending

1115
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: him argument to be made that by the way, real quickly,

1116
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: MMA media is very deferential towards Nate and his interests,

1117
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: so we should also note that, like the MMA media

1118
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: is I think overly nice to him, and I think

1119
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: at times we've been that way as well. But I

1120
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: just holding on to all of that animosity is is

1121
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: work and it's a distraction, and I just feel like

1122
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't want it anymore, all.

1123
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: Right, But you brought up a key part of there

1124
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: the potential for renegotiation. So I'm just painting you a

1125
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: picture that I didn't like the tone of those comments.

1126
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: I didn't like though, Well, I don't even know what

1127
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do next. Maybe I'll come back, because dude,

1128
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 4: they held you back from making money you deserved against

1129
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: Jake Paul. Okay, that's that's the straight up truth. The

1130
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: window that they did not offer him a fight aligns

1131
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: perfectly with Jake Paul's rise. I don't think you need

1132
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 4: a magic eight ball to tell you that signs appeared

1133
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: to yes on why we're here. But you brought up

1134
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 4: the potential of renegotiation and playing the free agent field.

1135
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 4: So is this actually Nate being willing to contradict himself

1136
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: in this frame because it's you know, sly like a fox.

1137
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 4: Because ever since Jake Paul signed on to face Anderson's sofa,

1138
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: which is now a fow and we can get to

1139
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: that on the show today. Look, there is potential that

1140
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: the Jake Show could come to a disastrous and if

1141
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 4: Anderson wins. Is that part of Nate's thinking because you

1142
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 4: don't just he doesn't just win or lose against Tremaiev

1143
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: and then tomorrow enter the Jake promotion. Like there is

1144
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 4: a potential fallout here if Jake loses this and loses

1145
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: it badly. Am I not giving Nate enough credit for

1146
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: how he's publicly negotiating here, Luke.

1147
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not driving a hard bargain in the

1148
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: way that you would normally imagine. I think that's certainly

1149
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: what you're picking up on. It's like you had all

1150
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: of this I was mistreated kind of rhetoric that now

1151
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: you're seemingly letting go of again. I don't know exactly

1152
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: what the right answer is for him and why he

1153
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: has said all of that, but like, let's just imagine

1154
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: a scenario, b Se. Now listen, Look, we mentioned the odds.

1155
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: You got hams that as a minus one thousand favorite.

1156
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't know any MMA insider who's picking anyone other

1157
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: than hams Out unless people are on Nate's team, to

1158
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: be quite honest with you, and I'm picking homs Out.

1159
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure you are as well. Hams Out almost certainly

1160
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: wins this one, could win it quite brutally. But let's

1161
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: imagine a world, because MMA is fucking crazy, Let's imagine

1162
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: a world where Nate Diz smokes them, right, However, that

1163
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: looks Kurt Pellagrino triangle type thing or boxes them up

1164
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: and puts them away. It's unlikely, but it is possible

1165
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: in that world. Do you think the UFC wants to

1166
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: let go of him? They might back up the Brinks

1167
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: truck to keep him on board, and of course he

1168
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: still might say no. Like whatever he whatever's gonna happen,

1169
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: probably is gonna happen through some kind of free agent negotiation.

1170
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: Like it's not just gonna happen automatically, but like there

1171
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: is a possibility. It's again we go back to it

1172
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: with Francis san Ganu. Right, if you're Francis san Ghanu, yes,

1173
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: the biggest thing you could do to make money would

1174
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 2: be a fight with Tyson Fury. But how secure is

1175
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: that and how scalable is there a future beyond it?

1176
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: I just feel like Nate at this point, it is

1177
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: it is You're right that it's it's a it's a

1178
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: weird u turn he's made, but it looks like he's

1179
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: at least keeping the possibility open that maybe, just maybe

1180
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: things could happen with UFC where we thought there was

1181
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: no possibility.

1182
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: Right, And to be fair, if that Jake Paul window

1183
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: closed and there wasn't you know, a two fight deal

1184
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: there like could be if he goes in there, and

1185
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 4: especially if you beat him the you know what's his

1186
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: money fight? It's Connor. I mean, so of course it is,

1187
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: so yeah, it would make sense for him to keep

1188
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 4: himself available there. So am I insulting him for something

1189
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: he's actually being smart on? My answer is I don't know,

1190
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: because the rest of this interview, Luke, while being a

1191
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: typical DZ Brother interview, it's still batshit crazy Luke. So

1192
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 4: there's I mean, tell me if I'm wrong. I came

1193
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 4: away from this not really being fully confident that Nate

1194
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: believes he's gonna win. That he almost is, you know,

1195
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 4: taking this because he has to do, which I think

1196
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: is true. Yes, But then again hedged up with those

1197
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: comments about Dana right there, it just is a bowl

1198
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: of I don't know what the hell to make of this. Now,

1199
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 4: again that's always the DZ brother experience. But I really

1200
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 4: come coming out of here having more questions than answers

1201
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: in a situation where we had almost no answers heading into, like,

1202
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 4: you know, what's gonna happen here? Except for the odds

1203
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 4: like I've tried to find bigger odds from this. Ronda

1204
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 4: Rossy was like minus seventeen hundred when she headlined against

1205
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 4: Betchkohea at UFC one ninety GSP in the first Sarah fight,

1206
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: I think was like minus fourteen hundred, and we all

1207
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: know chef Chenko was gonna be about minus eight million

1208
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 4: against Montano. But dude, for a pay per view main event,

1209
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: these odds are like, we've almost never seen it before.

1210
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 4: It's as weird and bizarre fight as possible, And this

1211
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: weird and bizarre interview now has me like even more

1212
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: confused about who's playing what role, who's actually smart and

1213
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: who's not Because you can just as easily look up

1214
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: and down Nate's journey sitting out three years after fighting

1215
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: Connor twice, whether he needed the mental and physical rest

1216
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: or not, and question is he always making the best

1217
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 4: move for his own future? Now when we hear the

1218
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 4: way he negotiated the first McGregor fight from Faber on

1219
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 4: Our Room Service diaries, go yeah, man, this guy's a

1220
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 4: sly fox. He knows exactly what he's doing. But dude,

1221
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 4: I'm confused right now.

1222
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a slight it's a slight u turn.

1223
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: I get the sense that there has been a thawing.

1224
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: Here's my read. Here's my read. I get the sense

1225
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: that Team Das and Team UFC have been at odds

1226
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: for a long time, a long time, and that explains

1227
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: what Nate has said. It's explained partly his absence, It's

1228
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: explained his discontent, it explains a number of things. I

1229
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: get the sense, based on some conversations and some other things,

1230
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: that the relationship between Team Daz and the UFC has

1231
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: thought that there has been a warming. I don't know

1232
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: how long, and I don't know how much, but that

1233
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: there is a change. And I think you're seeing language

1234
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: reflected by Diaz that reflects that thawing of that relationship.

1235
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: Whether that means they will reunite down the line, I

1236
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: don't know. Whether that means there will be a Jake

1237
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: Paul boxing match. I don't know. A lot of this

1238
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: is still speculative, but the UFC has at the last minute,

1239
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 2: it seems like salvaged a little bit of their relationship

1240
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: with Nate and at least introduced the possibility that there

1241
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 2: could be a future with them. Even if I would

1242
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: argue BC that is definitely not the likeliest outcome win

1243
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: or lose on Safe nine.

1244
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 4: This is more of a far fetched question. Some things

1245
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: have to happen for it to be true. Is there

1246
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: any part of Dana in company when they're in that

1247
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 4: war room and they're talking, you know, not the matchmaking room,

1248
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 4: let's say the business room where they're talking, you know,

1249
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: the future here that they're thinking. Look, if Jake gets

1250
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: by Anderson, which which Dana himself said, that's that's a

1251
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 4: real fight. Is there part of them that says, at

1252
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: that point there would be a ton of a call

1253
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: right for Jake to fight Nate. Maybe they get involved.

1254
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 4: We're not there yet in terms of everybody getting along good, right,

1255
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 4: We're not actually there yet.

1256
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we're there yet. And also, you know,

1257
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: if Nate has a ton of leverage from beating Hamzad,

1258
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: I don't know which way he might use it, but

1259
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna he's gonna put whoever it is, over a

1260
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: fucking barrel. I mean, let's just reel about that.

1261
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: What does the like now that we're talking about storylines

1262
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 4: here essentially on this fight, It's like, have we talked

1263
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 4: enough about what the dias upset like what the next

1264
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: day would look like like, what what the future would

1265
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 4: look like like? How look, how would you eat? Because

1266
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: this fight is so damn unique and weird, how would

1267
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 4: you gauge how big of an upset it actually would

1268
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: be if Nate did this.

1269
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: I'll say this, it's a it's a monster upset. It's

1270
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: it's truly Here's what you can say, easily, easily, easily,

1271
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz defeating Hamzat Chemaiev would be whatever the odds

1272
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: may say, I think just you and I would agree

1273
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: bec easily easily a top five historic upset in UFC history.

1274
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: Frankly maybe in MMA history as well. A historic upset

1275
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: is what that would be. And I get the feeling BC,

1276
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: and I don't know what Nate would do about it,

1277
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: because God only knows. I mean, again, you can thaw

1278
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: that relationship, but there is still some damage done that

1279
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that a thawing can all together fix.

1280
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: But BC, if Nate Diaz goes in there and beats

1281
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: Hamzat Chamaiev, I get the feeling that the UFC would

1282
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: do everything in their power to find a way to

1283
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: keep him on roster because his star, say the next

1284
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: fucking level.

1285
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: It goes without saying, and you know what, they would

1286
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: give him Connor money, because here's the deal, Like, what's

1287
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 4: Snake's real problem, Luke, he wants to be appreciated and

1288
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 4: treated by management equivalent to his legend and his value.

1289
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: We can argue for days whether him calling himself the

1290
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 4: greatest fighter of all time, although he's framing it under

1291
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: like the gangster code is true or not. But like, dude,

1292
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: he'd be the biggest. He would fight like he finally

1293
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: got real money by fighting Connor twice and beating him.

1294
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: And now if he pulls this upset, which would be

1295
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: which would given the largest amount of street cred ever accomplished,

1296
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: and that probably jumping past Habib dropkicking Dylan Danis to

1297
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: the face as like street cred of just the biggest

1298
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 4: victory we've ever seen. Dude, he would finally demand and

1299
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: probably get Connor money after that, because not only would

1300
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 4: you put him in a trilogy with Connor, but you

1301
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 4: can make any number of great fights with him. So yeah,

1302
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: that's true. But Luke, all of this back and forth

1303
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: in Monday morning quarterbacking and trying to play psychologist, how

1304
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: much is this uf? He going, Let's do everything in

1305
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: our power to not have Nate essentially do the thing,

1306
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: the pro wrestling thing that people feared when the fight

1307
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: was booked. Oh, Nate's gonna come out there in three seconds,

1308
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 4: flip off the cameras and walk out of the cage

1309
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know, take a count out loss

1310
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 4: or a no decision.

1311
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: Like he's not doing that.

1312
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 4: He's not doing that. But how much of this is

1313
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: them just completely trying to protect that. Let's be let's

1314
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: play great with him. I mean, to your point, if

1315
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: he wins, they gotta resign him. They got to. There's

1316
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: not another could, like, they have.

1317
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: To right, they have to do whatever they want they

1318
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: can at that point, I don't know if I understand

1319
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: your question altogether. BC.

1320
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: Do you how much do you believe the UFC playing

1321
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: super nice and playing up the legends suddenly is them

1322
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: just doing everything they can for a soft landing win

1323
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: or lose. If Nate plans on leaving and putting a

1324
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: stain down now, look, no one believes he's going to

1325
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: do the type of stay and that makes a mockery

1326
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 4: of the main event. They would hold his purse up,

1327
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: they'd probably try to sue him. I mean, it'd be messy, right,

1328
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: but there's other ways to walk out and stain the

1329
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 4: company on the way out.

1330
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: Look. I think that's right, and I think what they're

1331
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: trying to do is feather a bit of a nest

1332
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: in the event of something being possible. Again, I want

1333
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: to be very clear, I think UFC and nay Diaz

1334
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: working together in the immediate future is very unlikely but

1335
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: certainly possible. But like understand something about the nature of

1336
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: the contract. My understanding is that at the moment it

1337
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: expires after his last fight, they have ninety days exclusive

1338
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: negotiating and then I think a year where they can match.

1339
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: Now they've not exercised those rights with anyone, right, let's

1340
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: be very clear about that as well. That's what's on paper.

1341
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: But the UFC either decides to resign someone or they don't.

1342
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: They don't play a lot of these games where they

1343
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: exercise that. But at a bare minimum, BC, they would

1344
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: have ninety days exclusive negotiating with that he could go

1345
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: to no other suitor at that point. That covers the

1346
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: moment in which Jake Paul fights Anderson Silva and if

1347
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Jake Paul gets stretched, which I think is on the table.

1348
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: Who the hell knows what's going to happen here. There's

1349
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways this could all go up

1350
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: in smoke or build on itself, or whatever the fuck

1351
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: you want to say, whatever the proper analogy or metaphor is.

1352
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out to get to the uf from

1353
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: the UFC side of things, they're trying to make sure

1354
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: that Nate doesn't walk. And also, dude, you got to

1355
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: wonder about the Anderson Silva effect too, Like we haven't

1356
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: talked about this part. We'll talk about Anderson Silva and

1357
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: Jake Palm just a second. Like, I wonder if they

1358
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: look back on him getting like a last fight at

1359
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: the Apex where there was no crowd, there was no

1360
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: real adulation. They had like a video package for him

1361
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: and they said nice things and they send him on

1362
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: his way. It's one of the most important fighters in

1363
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: UFC history, and they kind of just you know, they

1364
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: didn't do nothing for him, but like it wasn't ceremonial

1365
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: in any kind of meaningful sense. I wonder if they

1366
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: want to correct that mistake, especially with a guy as

1367
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: beloved by the fans as Nate Diz.

1368
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 5: Well.

1369
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: Look, I think that's partially maybe why they're given Tony

1370
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 4: Ferguson this Cole main event slot in a fight that

1371
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: we're kind of fearful for. Is just like they know

1372
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 4: the fans have like loved this man on a made

1373
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: man level that you can just it's they're immortal. They're

1374
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 4: immortal now they are true gangsters of this sport, and yeah,

1375
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 4: they should take advantage of that, like you said, in

1376
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: ways that they haven't always to exiting legends. You know,

1377
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 4: they constantly feed him contenders and fights that don't make

1378
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 4: sense since the legend is pretty much not in the

1379
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 4: title picture anyway. So I agree with all that, Luke,

1380
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: there's a question that I want to as we kind

1381
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: of transition to Hamzad, who also did a sit down

1382
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 4: with Brett, and I was really intrigued by that Humsaut's

1383
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: a gangster hair, Luke, he fashions himself a real gangster.

1384
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: So there's gonna be a strategic question that I want

1385
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: to save for Friday. That's essentially I think one of

1386
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 4: the biggest storylines in here. Did Gilbert Burns not exposed

1387
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 4: but humanize Tremaiah of enough in that fight that maybe

1388
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: we're overlooking some things looking at the odds heading into

1389
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 4: this one. Save the result of that question for Friday.

1390
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: But in the spirit of Hamsat being fancying himself like

1391
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 4: a real gangster who comes from a war torn country

1392
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: and it really is about that life, I think I'm

1393
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: starting to believe him when he essentially says, look, that

1394
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 4: fight with Burns was that funny competitive because I wanted to.

1395
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: I tend to believe the more I learn of this

1396
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: guy's makeup, that he really did want to show on

1397
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: that platform how badass he actually can be, and that

1398
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: you know, you hear him say, Luke everything he's just

1399
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: about the money, like, no emotion, just about the money.

1400
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 4: This is what I do paying my money. I like

1401
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 4: the countdown show showing how hard of a worker he

1402
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: is in the gym, and how he's really about that

1403
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 4: side of it too, which you need to be to

1404
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: truly sustain. But dude, this guy's made up with everything

1405
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 4: that it takes to be an absolutely badass breakout star.

1406
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 4: The more I watch that, the more I look at

1407
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: these odds, and I'm like, damn, do we really have

1408
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 4: to make this flight? Poor Nate potentially, but this guy

1409
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 4: seems to be the real deal.

1410
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: Luke.

1411
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you're not the real deal until

1412
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 4: you show it in the cage and you win the championship.

1413
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 4: But good lord, he seems to be wired in an

1414
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: almost scary cyborg robot exactly who he needs to be

1415
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 4: to be what he's trying to be, and that's a

1416
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: hit man. He's coming for that cash.

1417
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: Luke.

1418
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 4: Pay the man his money.

1419
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: And to Nate's point, they this is why he said

1420
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: he took the fight because he looked around and was like,

1421
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: the UFC wants me to build someone for them. Who

1422
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: can I build as their guy? Their UFC guy looks

1423
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: like Hamsa CHAMAIV is that is that dude? So that's

1424
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: why he apparently was the way he called it out

1425
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: in the way that he did. Now to your point,

1426
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: Hamsa Chamaiah spoke to again our en, the main media colleague,

1427
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: Bretokomode over at ESPN, and he said, quote, this is

1428
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: what you were just talking about. BC. I make the

1429
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: money and smash his head and have some fun. UFC

1430
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: wants to kill that guy. I'm like killer, you know

1431
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: you pay for me. I take his head off. Jesus Christ,

1432
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: that is that's a lot. And then he says about,

1433
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, getting physical before the fight. I don't know,

1434
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: we'll see he's playing like gangster. I don't know if

1435
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 2: he's gangster or not. If we're honest with you, real

1436
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: gangsters don't play with their punches or whatever he's saying.

1437
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: They kill each other. And this is fight. If you're

1438
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: going to play gangster, I eat for breakfast. Yeah, dude,

1439
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: he is. He is a He's a mercenary. He's a

1440
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: mercenary in the scariest kind of way that he'll just

1441
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: take the check, show up and do some beheadings and

1442
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: then be on his way onto the next thing. And

1443
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 2: I agree.

1444
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: Does he roll with your guy too? Didn't he get

1445
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 4: a sports car as a gift and then crashed it

1446
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 4: from that dude.

1447
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh On Cadeira? Yeah, because he's catch which which ROMs

1448
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: On is as well.

1449
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 4: And don't forget that when Tamaiah looked like he was

1450
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 4: potentially retiring due to the COVID battles he.

1451
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: Had, Luke he got he got bullied back into doing

1452
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: it by Oh.

1453
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 4: He straight up got pushed back into it. So I

1454
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 4: give him credit for being about that life. But Luke

1455
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 4: to his point, like Stockton, California, like come hang in

1456
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 4: my hood. I mean, this guy, you know, is showing

1457
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 4: us that he's he is he is. He seems to

1458
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 4: be that that dude the real deal. So we'll find out.

1459
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 4: But uh, did you come away like it's kind of endearing,

1460
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: Like he's a suit, He's a He's a movie character

1461
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 4: come to life.

1462
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: This dude, Luke, he is I don't, I don't. To me,

1463
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: this fight is very much the Nate Diaz story, right.

1464
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: It's about his his That's why we did the resume

1465
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: review with him. It's about his journey to this point.

1466
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: It's about what we learn about the UFC during the

1467
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: eras in which he competed, about how they work with fighters,

1468
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: about how they understand Nate in particular, It's about Nate's future.

1469
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: Is he gonna box Jake Paul? Is he what's he

1470
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: gonna do? Right? Sort of, all of these are the

1471
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: things that everything else is orbiting around. The Hamzad story,

1472
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: to me, is orbiting around them. It's not irrelevant, it's

1473
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: not unimportant, but it's a function of everything Nate Diaz

1474
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: is doing. And so I actually wonder, like I do,

1475
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: think Hamasa will get rub especially if he beats the

1476
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: fuck out of Nate Diaz. But to me, it's like

1477
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm not learning anything new about Hamzad this time around.

1478
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm more just getting a sense of, all, right, exactly

1479
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: how good he is? Can he keep doing this? Is

1480
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: he gonna make mistakes? Because that was the thing against

1481
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns, Like I do think a lot of that

1482
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: was elective in the way in which he fought. An

1483
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: undisciplined approach didn't cost him against Gilbert Burns, probably won't

1484
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: cost him against Diaz either, but it could for undisciplined reasons.

1485
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: So you know, there's there's relevant storylines with Hamza, but

1486
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: don't you feel like this is really the Nate Diaz

1487
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 2: show and Hamda is very much a supporting character in that.

1488
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 4: But the effect of the outcome that we have all

1489
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 4: claimed is most likely and you know, very likely, is

1490
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 4: with will events you know, will essentially be all about Tamayav.

1491
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: So we are sleeping on that side of it, and

1492
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: we should give Nate this close up in you know,

1493
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 4: like street street wise in terms of cred like how

1494
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: could you not take your hat? I mean like it's

1495
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: this is the most Nate d or you know, this

1496
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 4: is the most Nick Diaz army brother move ever to

1497
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: take this fight and shout out to Nate for that.

1498
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I don't know where I was going.

1499
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 4: Wherever I was going, look it was it was really

1500
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 4: going to be magic. The connective tissue just just fell

1501
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 4: apart right there. Unfortunately. Oh look, does does Hamsa have

1502
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 4: the cleft palette? I don't think I've read about that,

1503
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 4: but I.

1504
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: See, yeah, yeah, I think he had a repair, which

1505
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: is why he has the scar.

1506
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 4: But yes, yea, you know it kind of with the beard,

1507
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 4: it kind of adds to his look. Dude, he's pretty,

1508
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 4: he's you know, yeah, okay.

1509
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: Well see he's not from a cushioned, you know, part

1510
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: of the world with a silver spoon in his mouth.

1511
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: I can tell you that all right now. It leads

1512
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: us to topic number three BC, which of course is

1513
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: where Nate Diaz could end up depending on how things go.

1514
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: But showtime official, Yes, Jake Paul is going to box

1515
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva. The opening odds on draft Kings, for example,

1516
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: this morning had Anderson Silva at a minus one thirty

1517
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: five Jake Paul out a plus one oh five. Let

1518
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: me give you the details if I may, very quickly.

1519
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: This of course will be at October twenty ninth, Showtime

1520
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: pay per view in Phoenix, Arizona at the Hila River Arena,

1521
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: I believe is the name of the place. It's an

1522
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: eight round boxing contest with a catchweight at one eighty seven.

1523
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: Now I don't remember the last time that Silva was

1524
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: at one eighty five, although this will be you'll have

1525
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of an allowance relative to that. But

1526
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: those are your basic details. B see, I gave them

1527
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: all to you. Your takeaway from this information is what.

1528
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 4: Uh, this fight is the right one at the right time.

1529
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 4: It's going to be commercially big. I think it's harder

1530
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,919
Speaker 4: than people on the boxing side of the audience are realizing,

1531
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: given the age of Anderson and the audio, so.

1532
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: The boxing side of things, saying from what you can tell.

1533
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's what I found in the short period that

1534
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 4: this fight became real. And you know, you talked to people, media, fans,

1535
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 4: network people, everybody behind the scenes. Luke, every single MMA

1536
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 4: person has kind of taken our side of it and saying, look,

1537
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: we think it could be a close fight. For sure,

1538
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna be entertaining, but dude, Anderson could could not

1539
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 4: only give him troubles he could, you know, he could

1540
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: finish him here. Everybody I've talked to on the boxing

1541
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 4: side across the board and it could just be a

1542
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 4: you know, not knowing or ignorance to you know, what

1543
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: Anderson's done so far in boxing, or maybe they've seen

1544
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: it but they just look over it. I mean people

1545
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 4: in boxing do things. Shaves Junior is just a you know, broke, broken,

1546
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: busted product. But Looke, they believe that this is you know,

1547
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: almost like why are we doing this? This will be

1548
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 4: something where Jake will get the win against an old guy,

1549
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 4: but not get the critical respect. I think the absolute opposite,

1550
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 4: because I think if Jake is going to win this fight,

1551
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 4: it's going to have to be in a fight in

1552
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,839
Speaker 4: like a war and where he has a big moment

1553
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 4: because you and I both think this is a very

1554
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 4: tough fight for Jake. So I give Jake poly a

1555
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: ton of respect for booking it. You see, he's finally

1556
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: getting you know, Dana White to even talk about it

1557
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 4: and sort of begrudgingly give him back some of that

1558
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 4: respect knowing that this is a real challenge eight rounds.

1559
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 4: As you said at one eighty seven, this is it's

1560
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: it's put up a shut up. As I said before

1561
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 4: about this fight for Jake, and I think it's the

1562
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 4: time for it. And I think people are sleeping a

1563
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 4: bit more on the boxing side that while would we

1564
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 4: have preferred Rockman Junior, would that have been the right

1565
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 4: fight here, probably because Rockman Junior had enough questions where

1566
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 4: we're not sure if that was gonna be what it

1567
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: was sold in terms of like a really hard test.

1568
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 4: I think we know or at least can guess here

1569
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 4: that this will be. So this has the perfect mix

1570
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 4: of commercial and critical potential here for Jake. It's the

1571
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 4: right fight at the right time. And we don't know

1572
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: Luke a favor Anderson here, but we don't know. And

1573
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: that's a good spot to be in because I think

1574
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 4: in this crossover celebrity old guys coming back window the

1575
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 4: last few years from Triller to you know whoever, outside

1576
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 4: of Mike Tyson looking really good that one night against

1577
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 4: Roy Jones, like these are the two best. These are

1578
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 4: the guys that have committed, it seems the most of

1579
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 4: their attention and effort to really being good in this space.

1580
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: In a weird way, it's sort of you know, finding

1581
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: out who's the best right now in this window, and

1582
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 4: there's good there's star power attached. Not just because you

1583
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 4: and I are going to be flying to la this

1584
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: weekend for the press conference, Luke, but I'm really interested.

1585
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm really fired up for this one because you know,

1586
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: this isn't Tywn Woodley coming up two way classes. We

1587
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 4: do have to remember that. And if you've seen enough

1588
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: lately of Anderson with the hands, dude, there's still something there.

1589
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 4: There's definitely still a lot to work with there.

1590
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to tell you, I think if there's

1591
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: anyone in the boxing world that thinks that this is

1592
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: sort of you know, Jake Paul can get this done

1593
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: with relatively easily, or you know, sort of a reasonably

1594
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: confident pick that you can he can win, I think

1595
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: you're about to be very surprised. I think you're in

1596
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: for a rude awakening.

1597
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 4: I will you'll be surprised, you know.

1598
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, here's what I'm saying. I will acknowledge that

1599
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: because Anderson is forty seven, and we don't exactly know

1600
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: how good he is either at the stage of his

1601
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: athletic career at all and certainly not in boxing, that

1602
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: there is some uncertainty here. And I understand and respect that.

1603
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: I do think it is winnable for Jake Paul, but

1604
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: I would definitely favor Anderson Silva to win. I think

1605
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: this is far and away different than anything he experienced

1606
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: with Tyron Woodley. I don't know exactly what the best

1607
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 2: reason is to explain why Anderson has looked so good

1608
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: since leaving the UFC, where he did not look all

1609
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: that great in his final sort of MMA run that

1610
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: last ye, I'll explain it. Is it?

1611
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 4: Well, there's two seasons. One could be performance dancing drugs,

1612
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 4: and in this era, we'd be stupid if we didn't

1613
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,520
Speaker 4: at least throw that out there right obviously.

1614
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: By the way you busted previously, that's just for sure

1615
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: to remember that.

1616
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 4: And by the way all of our heroes have have

1617
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: probably most likely I don't give a shit, no, but

1618
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 4: anyone holding out like I was for years, you got

1619
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 4: to just wake up to that fact. But to Luke,

1620
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 4: this is not the same level as elite UFC. And oh,

1621
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 4: by the way, dude, Anderson Silva wasn't getting knocked cold like.

1622
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 4: We didn't have to drag him out unfortunately like we

1623
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 4: did Chuck Ledell in his you know, when he turned

1624
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 4: forty This was a guy whose body kind of fell

1625
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 4: on you know, broke his heart a couple times, and

1626
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: a very elite fights in which he had to be

1627
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 4: at such a high level. But look, what are we

1628
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 4: three and a half years maybe removed from him going

1629
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 4: in there against Adasania and not only not getting embarrassed

1630
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 4: like we feared, Luke, he kind of had some moments

1631
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 4: and I know you can always argue in hindsight, was

1632
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 4: aut of sonia as you know, violent as he could

1633
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: have been. Was he showing too much respect? I think

1634
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 4: that version of Andersildon Silva at whatever forty four went

1635
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 4: all in that night, just like I think he will

1636
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 4: in this one. He's actually not that far removed from that.

1637
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 4: He hasn't taken on huge damage. His footwork for boxing

1638
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 4: is actually pretty good. He's got more fight experience, he's

1639
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 4: probably longer, He's can hit hard. I mean, like, I

1640
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 4: just think people are thinking, you know, like when forty

1641
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 4: seven year old Tito or Teez walked in there, in

1642
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 4: the first punch he took from Anderson, more or less

1643
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 4: he was gone, This ain't that guy. I think the

1644
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 4: best case scenario here, Luke, is that these two have

1645
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 4: a even lee competitive action, fun, entertaining fight regardless of

1646
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 4: who gets their hand raised where you kind of want

1647
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 4: to see it again, you know what I mean? Like

1648
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: this this is actually on paper, seems to be even matchmaking.

1649
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: And you know, maybe Tyron Woodley was also for Jake,

1650
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 4: and credit to Jake for finishing the second fight spectacularly,

1651
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 4: but Jake also got hurt in that first fight, and

1652
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 4: that second fight wasn't overly screaming that you would want

1653
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 4: to see them again. I think this matchup is destined

1654
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 4: to be dramatic and fun that you're gonna want to

1655
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 4: see it again. So kudos to everybody, dude, And we know,

1656
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 4: like yeah, okay, Silva kind of look, this is not

1657
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 4: the UFC elite level. It really comes down to what

1658
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: do you actually think where Jake Paul's at right now?

1659
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 4: You know, could he beat a ten and zero pro

1660
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 4: boxer who has good intentions move? I don't know.

1661
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, I don't think he could.

1662
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he could. I gotta tell you, like,

1663
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for Jake Paul for

1664
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: taking this fight because I think it's winnable but very difficult,

1665
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: and I'd also put on the table for folks who

1666
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: are in denial about this from whatever vantage point you

1667
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: want to look at it from. Dude, Jake Paul getting

1668
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: stretched is on the table here, like, not in a

1669
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: puncher's chance kind of way, in a much greater sense

1670
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: than that. I don't know if that's the likeliest outcome.

1671
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: In fact, I would probably not say that, but it

1672
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: is certainly on the table here because here's my view

1673
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: of what's going to happen. Be see. I actually think

1674
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: it'll be close for the first two maybe three rounds,

1675
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: where Jake will be careful sitting mind his jab. He

1676
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: does have big power, he is much younger. He should

1677
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: be in good shape. Since it's gonna be relatively close

1678
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: to his walking around way, it'll have to be a

1679
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: little bit trimmer, but not by too much. He should

1680
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: be fine, right, So I think it's gonna be close early,

1681
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: but I think over time the difference in overall skill

1682
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: is going to show up. I don't think that forty

1683
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: seven number next to Anderson reflects his present athletic ability,

1684
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: and once those openings start presenting themselves, I think it

1685
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: could get very bad for Jake Paul. We will have

1686
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: to see how much improvement he has made. But I

1687
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: want to stress this very clearly. Anderson Silva is not

1688
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: only a favor to win. Anyone who is looking at

1689
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: this broadcast should remember this. It is very likely he

1690
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 2: will win beyond whatever the odds say. For Jake Paul

1691
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: to win, this to me would be a genuine surprise. Possible,

1692
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 2: but a surprise.

1693
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna favor Anderson. I do think it's

1694
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 4: going to be competitive, though, and look, Jake's younger. He's

1695
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna have to commit to volume in ways that he

1696
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: hasn't before. The jab's got to be huge upping, like

1697
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 4: there's things that he's gonna have to do to level up.

1698
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 4: He's young enough to do that. But look the fact

1699
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 4: that we're throwing out these scenarios here, we got to

1700
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 4: be excited about this.

1701
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: Luca.

1702
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 4: It's gonna be in Phoenix, as you mentioned. You know,

1703
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 4: I like Arizona, Luke. I vacation there as a kid.

1704
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 4: It's a you know, it doesn't feel as outlaw as

1705
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 4: New Mexico and Texas. I'm sure it actually is, Luke, but.

1706
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's the state's got some crazies in it.

1707
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: But my uncle lives there. One of my dad's brothers,

1708
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: who I've not seen them sometimes, so I'll get the

1709
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: chance to go see him. That's pretty excited about that.

1710
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: This would be great Uncle Luke.

1711
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm Luke, so I.

1712
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 4: Didn't know if you were named after him.

1713
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 2: I don't know your No, this would be Uncle Ron,

1714
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: Uncle Ron, Uncle Ron, all right, And I saw when

1715
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: I was we were at the Spence Ugas fight. I

1716
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: got to see one of my dad's other brothers. Who

1717
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: is Uncle Larry? About that Uncle Larry Larry? All right?

1718
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: All right? BC? Topic number four here, this is a

1719
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: weird one. We do have some audio and some video

1720
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 2: with it. Anthony Joshua appears to have accepted a Tyson

1721
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: Fury about for December. Why don't you set this up? BC,

1722
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: because I gotta tell you I saw these exchanges and

1723
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: it's weird. Dude, Tyson Fury is all over the place.

1724
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm retired. I'll fight Usik, but only for five hundred million.

1725
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I'll fight Joshua Is for a sixty forty

1726
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: per split. Set all this up? Where are we with this?

1727
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? This is really disappointing to see this development here.

1728
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 4: So you know, Alexander Usik just beat Anthony Joshua for

1729
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 4: the second time. It seems there's you know, he's also

1730
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: free of his design and Mattrium Sport, you know code

1731
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: deal that he had for a bit there. He's promoted

1732
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 4: by K two normally there's nothing stopping you know, him

1733
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: going to ESPN and Tyson Fury and making a first

1734
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 4: four bell heavyweight champion. And you know, Usik Stock is

1735
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 4: so huge, he's in the top five of the pound

1736
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 4: for pound. I mean, they're both unbeating like there's there's

1737
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 4: really I mean, there's so much history, it's it's a

1738
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 4: slam dunk. Yet all Tyson Fury is talking about is

1739
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 4: WWE and boxing a mountain man in Francis and Ganu.

1740
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 4: And now this let's first go to this video that

1741
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 4: Tyson put out there before we potentially blow up here,

1742
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 4: and let's let's see what he said.

1743
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: If you can.

1744
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 5: Hey, Tyson Fury, aka the Gypsy King, the WBC Heavyweight

1745
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 5: Champion of the World. As you can tell, I think

1746
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 5: you've all dining early fighting soon within the next few months.

1747
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:47,440
Speaker 5: And I think that before I announced an opponent, I

1748
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 5: need to do this just in case. Anthony Josh Shuroy,

1749
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 5: I know you've just lost a fight to ousap and

1750
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 5: you bounces at the moment, and I'd like to give

1751
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 5: you an opportunity to fight me for the EBC Heavyweight

1752
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 5: Championship of the World. I'm a lineal championship in the

1753
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 5: next few months. You're coming off a twelve round fight,

1754
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 5: so you match fit, you're ready, I'm giving you a

1755
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 5: few months notice. If you're interested, I'll send you the

1756
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 5: date over and we can rumble a Bottler Breton for

1757
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 5: the EBC Heavyweight Championship of the World. Let me know

1758
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 5: if you're interested. If not, I will select a number opponent.

1759
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 5: Thank you very much and gun down.

1760
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 4: AJ would quote tweet the video and say, yeah, calm,

1761
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 4: I don't do the online discussions just for clout. So

1762
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 4: if you're really about it, shout out my management team.

1763
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 4: I'll be ready in December. So that's why I guess

1764
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: this headline. But I don't even want that that that

1765
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: now subhead on our screen, because not only do we

1766
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 4: want not want or at least I wouldn't want to

1767
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 4: see this come to fruition. Let's talk about what this

1768
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 4: is really, what's really happening here, and what this really means. Okay, look,

1769
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 4: Tyson Fury as you said, everything that comes out of

1770
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: his mouth you've got to take with a grain of salt.

1771
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 4: Just I mean, he's all over the place. He's also, Luke,

1772
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 4: he's pretty smart, okay, business wise, and you know, in

1773
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 4: a lot of ways, there are those who are saying

1774
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 4: this is only about gaining the leverage financially over Usk,

1775
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 4: who you could argue has enough leverage for you know,

1776
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 4: a fifty to fifty or sixty forty split with Fury,

1777
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 4: even though Fury is the bigger star, because Zusik's got

1778
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 4: three world titles to one for Fury, if this is

1779
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 4: only about that, and no, I wouldn't put it past

1780
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 4: Fury to be willing to do this. You know, it's

1781
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: it's unnecessary to me and dirty and not dirty, but

1782
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 4: like Grimy, it's I mean, look, I can't begrudge a guy.

1783
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: This is the open market. You can do what you

1784
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 4: have to do. People have the UFC. It seems regularly

1785
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 4: floats what we you know, rumors to try to press

1786
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 4: your fighters. It's part of the grime of the game. Luke,

1787
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 4: I hate it when this fight seems so easy to make.

1788
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 4: But look, if it's not about that, this is an

1789
01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 4: unforgivable potential duck for a guy who like always says,

1790
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 4: I'm a fighting man. You know, my generations of my

1791
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 4: family have been bare knuckle champions, you know, and we'll

1792
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 4: fight to the death and all this stuff. And I

1793
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 4: believe that his family believes this stuff. And Tyson, to

1794
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 4: his credit from coming back from the four years away

1795
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: and the depression and the you know, near suicide and

1796
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 4: getting up off the canvas against Wilder in the first

1797
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 4: fight in round twelve and you know, adjusting his style

1798
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: to become more of an aggressive you know, attempts out

1799
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 4: of becoming a knockout artist and it's been successful. Look

1800
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 4: at the Dillian White and the Wilder fights. He is

1801
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 4: about this life, Luke, doing anything but going in the

1802
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 4: direction of Alexander Usik at this moment shows that that

1803
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 4: that you're not, hey, ain't you're not being who you

1804
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 4: said you really are.

1805
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: And here like does he have to do anything?

1806
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 4: So looke. If it's about I'm retired and I'm done,

1807
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 4: I'm not fighting anybody in boxing and I am gonna

1808
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 4: fight the Mountain Man and in Ghana, Like, we can't

1809
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 4: tell him no, right, go make your money, even if

1810
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 4: he wants to do this those stuff first and then

1811
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 4: fight Ousick. Even if he said that, which he didn't,

1812
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 4: it would be disappointing. He would beat grounds for criticism.

1813
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, he's not fighting

1814
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 4: somebody else in boxing. Like in theory, he could come

1815
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 4: back when he's ready and you could do the fight.

1816
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 4: I think he'd be I think it's stupid historically, for

1817
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 4: he's at a point Luke with an unbeaten record, although

1818
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 4: he hasn't faced as many big names in this era

1819
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 4: as you would want. He added Dillion White, that was huge.

1820
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 4: He fault Wilder three times. I get that He's always

1821
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 4: wanted AJ because it's a potential, huge money fight. It's

1822
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 4: a monster money fight and he thinks he can win

1823
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: it and it would mean a lot to England. Look,

1824
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 4: I get all of that, but wouldn't it mean a

1825
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 4: lot more if you beat Usick it became the undisputed

1826
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 4: champion and then you fought AJ and did the stadium fight, Like, Yeah,

1827
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 4: it would. This is against what Fury seems to stand for,

1828
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 4: and I do think it's unforgivable. Look, so if it's

1829
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 4: about retirement and I don't want to do it again,

1830
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 4: he still would be grounds for criticism. You're walking away

1831
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 4: when the biggest challenge available to you is there. We

1832
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 4: don't get good stuff in boxing. We had a chance

1833
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 4: at one face one division one champion for you know,

1834
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 4: like do it, dude. But if this is really about

1835
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 4: I don't think I want to fight usick because maybe

1836
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 4: it's a difficult matchup that I just don't care about.

1837
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 4: Screw your belts. I'll go fight AJ, get my money,

1838
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 4: and then go do what I want. Dude, yolo, right,

1839
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 4: But that doesn't equal the words of who you talk about. Look,

1840
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 4: he has one of those resumes because he didn't get

1841
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: a chance to fight everybody, because he took large gaps

1842
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 4: off that you can actually jack it up and really

1843
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 4: make the argument that he's like a top five or

1844
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 4: ten heavyweight all time only because look, we haven't seen

1845
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 4: him solved in the ring, right and he's had huge moments.

1846
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to support that argument like an andre

1847
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 4: Ward or Habib who were similarly retired early didn't get

1848
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 4: get to face everybody. But dude, we never saw him groggy.

1849
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 4: We never saw Kurt go Bain try an acoustic album.

1850
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Outside of unplugged in was amazing,

1851
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 4: But you get my point.

1852
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm sure we did see that. Actually, okay,

1853
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 2: you get my point.

1854
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 4: Like what like if you're about that life, then fight

1855
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 4: Ohsi can show us. And by the way, Luke and

1856
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: I would both favor you to win that, as I

1857
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 4: think most people would. What the hell's going on here, Luke,

1858
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 4: this is not acceptable. We're so close.

1859
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel as invested in the result

1860
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: as much as you. After Usik beating Joshua twice, I

1861
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: don't know. I get your point. Like they say what

1862
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: they say, they market, how they market, and to your point,

1863
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: to have one face, one name as the front of

1864
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: this division, especially for a guys. You also indicated with

1865
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury, who is you know, arguably one of the

1866
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: best heavyweights ever. Assuming he could be Usik and really

1867
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: capture those belts, that would really solidify the argument. But

1868
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: again we have reason to believe with his style and

1869
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: everything else in size, he's very much a unicorn even

1870
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: in the history of heavyweight fighting that you know, this

1871
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: would be very complete, This would be great, This would

1872
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: be important for boxing. I don't disagree with any of it,

1873
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 2: but for some reason. I I don't know, man, I

1874
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: have tuned out what they say at this point for

1875
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: the in large part, in large part, and they just

1876
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: would have picked up on how they fight and what

1877
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: they want to do. He seems to be struggling with

1878
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: what he actually wants to do, which is why he's

1879
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: kind of all over the place. And I don't know

1880
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: if that's part negotiating because he thought this was going

1881
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: to be secure and it's not, and now he's trying

1882
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 2: this or his mind changed. I don't really know what

1883
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: the answer is. But I don't feel as let down

1884
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: or as betrayed as you by virtue of the fact that,

1885
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: like the guy just kind of seems all over the place,

1886
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: and if he doesn't really know what he wants, it's

1887
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 2: hard for me to like hold him to account as this.

1888
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 4: Being a mind get one chance to do a four

1889
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 4: bell heavyweight championship with You're already.

1890
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Right on the you see, you're right on the merits.

1891
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: But I guess I'm sure fighters.

1892
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 4: Are historically relevant. The this isn't so tiny, brogham off, right,

1893
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 4: Like these are two Like I mean, this is this

1894
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 4: is what you live. This is what you live for.

1895
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 4: How many baseball players that went on to greatness, like

1896
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 4: grew up thinking every day in the backyard of hitting

1897
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 4: a home run in the World Series. I know, this

1898
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 4: guy already became heavyweight champion of the world, and he

1899
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 4: was the lineal champion when he beat Klitschko. He recently

1900
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: lost that mythical title because he claimed he retired. They

1901
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 4: were the only ones the Ring magazine that was like, Okay,

1902
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna believe him, But this is what it's all about, Luke.

1903
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: You can't the greats. And this is why we used

1904
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 4: to criticize Floyd, who ended up fighting everybody. And you

1905
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 4: gotta give Floyd credit for beating the game and doing

1906
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,520
Speaker 4: it his way. But along that way, we were criticizing

1907
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 4: some of the choices. Dude, the old school guys, they

1908
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 4: like Sugar Ray Leonard, they couldn't they couldn't live a

1909
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: day if there was a fighter out there that other

1910
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 4: people thought could beat him, you know what I mean.

1911
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 4: And no, no, it's not exclusively true. And some people thought

1912
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 4: Leonard should have fallen in prior it just never matched

1913
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 4: up and made a ton of sense in a specific

1914
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: moment given his absences from the ring. This is what

1915
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be about you know, I mean too,

1916
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 4: when was the last thing we had two heavyweights in

1917
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 4: the top five or six pound for pound never? I

1918
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 4: don't know. Like this is ridiculous, dude, Like like you're

1919
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 4: telling me it wouldn't break your heart if you wanted

1920
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 4: to fight Joshua first and then fight this, I'd still

1921
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 4: be heartbroken, even though that would be about money.

1922
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: And I can get no to answer your question. Would

1923
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: I be heartbroken if you thought Joshua first? No, No,

1924
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would Actually, I'm not gonna say I

1925
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: would rather see that than Usik. That's crazy. I would

1926
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: rather see him fight Usik. But do I have enough

1927
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: interest in seeing him fight Joshua such that that's a

1928
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: thing that actually happens to be like reasonably intrigued, certainly

1929
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: to watch it and to be curious about what it

1930
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: all means. Yeah, I suppose that it would. I think

1931
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: he's picked up on that as well. That's probably the

1932
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: reason why, dude, everything you're saying is true. I guess

1933
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: I just don't have the same feelings of betrayal or

1934
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: you know, fomo or whatever that you seem to be articulating,

1935
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: which I'm not even saying or wrong. I just I'm

1936
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: not moved by it in that way.

1937
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 4: Well, you know what do we when we look at

1938
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 4: boxing at the surface for casual fans that have had

1939
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 4: a taste and like it but can't deal with the Shenanigans,

1940
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 4: can't deal with the bullshit, it's that the best don't

1941
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 4: fight the best, That there's no that there's not always

1942
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 4: an endgame, you know, like the NBA Conference finals don't

1943
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 4: just end and they say, hey, we had a great year,

1944
01:27:58,320 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 4: Like we go to the finals, we figure out who's

1945
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 4: the We don't have that in boxing until we do, Luke,

1946
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 4: should it matter to Tyson Fury? Well, what should matter more?

1947
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna get paid a lot to fight oo sick.

1948
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 4: It's not that that's the issue, Luke. He's showing us

1949
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: that maybe he's not about that life or maybe this

1950
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 4: is some again long term play to get the most

1951
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 4: financial leverage and at the end of the day he's

1952
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 4: gonna come through and do it anyway. Okay, Well you're

1953
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 4: wasting our time if you're doing that, and if you

1954
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 4: win more money that way cool. How about just be

1955
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 4: be a fighting man like you say you are. I

1956
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 4: know you are, dude. That's why we're saying, we almost look,

1957
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 4: the thing is like boxing, this era that people actually

1958
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 4: care about history, and it's not a lot. We want

1959
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 4: Fury to be that great. That's why we used to

1960
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 4: get on Floyd, not because we hated him, because we

1961
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 4: had a chance in front of us of having our

1962
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 4: own Ray Leonard Sugar, Ray Robinson, our own guy that

1963
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 4: we could put up there and say, Okay, you may

1964
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 4: have been alive in nineteen whatever when Harry Greb was

1965
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 4: on top, but we got our own guy is Floyd

1966
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 4: Luke Tyson. Fury's supposed to be that guy for us,

1967
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 4: especially heavyweights, you know, like enough of this Ali Frasier

1968
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 4: form in nineteen seventies. Talk, dude, we got the six

1969
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 4: or nine giant beat that motherfucker. Okay, there's still more

1970
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 4: you gotta do, Fury before we can have those arguments.

1971
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fair, it's all fair what you're saying. I

1972
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: just I don't.

1973
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 4: It's still real to me, damn it.

1974
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 2: He just seems to be wandering around. He doesn't even

1975
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 2: know exactly what he wants, and so it's like hard

1976
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 2: for me to be terribly upset or invested about something

1977
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: that's being lost here, even though if I grant you're right,

1978
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 2: it would be better for that to happen. I don't know.

1979
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 4: I just close on this. Eddie Hearn, who promotes Joshua,

1980
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 4: had quotes this morning. I don't know the outlet he said.

1981
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 4: In essence, we accepted the sixty to forty per split

1982
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 4: favoring Fury this morning. Is today, lots of conversations to have.

1983
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is a play to let

1984
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 4: his break down and then fight someone well under par

1985
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 4: in November or December and just say, hey, I tried

1986
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 4: to make the Aja fight, or I don't know if

1987
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 4: this is to try to get the Yusik fight for

1988
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 4: more money. Yeah, that's all we said. But basically he

1989
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 4: says they're going through the process of taking this seriously. Luke,

1990
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 4: that that Fury really wants to fight AJ. I mean,

1991
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 4: you wouldn't put it past him if this really is

1992
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: his plan here.

1993
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: Luke, No, you certainly wouldn't. And it's in fact, I'm

1994
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: not sure what is likeliest at this point. I think

1995
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: that's really hard to figure out what Tyson Fury. But

1996
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 2: it seems to me, why.

1997
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 4: Don't you solve it once't you solve it just by saying, hey, guys,

1998
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 4: this Fury fight means everything to England. It's a ton

1999
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 4: of money. I'm sorry, this Joshua fight means everything. It's

2000
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 4: a ton of money. I'm gonna do this first and

2001
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 4: then I'll fight your guy next year for all the belts.

2002
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that just make everybody happy?

2003
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Yes? It would, Yes. I think that would certainly assuage

2004
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: the concerns that people like you and the rest of

2005
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,520
Speaker 2: the boxing community might have. I think that's very reasonable.

2006
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 4: To I love assuaging Luke. Okay, it's a nice saussuage

2007
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 4: party here, you and I all, we got all, we

2008
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 4: got mail Luke viewers.

2009
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right. So let's get to our last

2010
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 2: year topic. Humber five quick hitters. Not a whole lot

2011
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: of this. Put up the stills if you can, according

2012
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 2: to Jake Shields, and there was video of it. Afterwards,

2013
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Paulo Costa and Hamsat Chamaya had an incident at the

2014
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 2: UFCPI where JAMAI excuse me, where excuse me? Costa and

2015
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: Jake Shields were drilling or working on something and JAMAIAV

2016
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 2: came over started some beef BC saying he wanted to

2017
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 2: fight him. I guess Jake Paul or excuse me that

2018
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Jake Paul Jake Shields is he opened the door for

2019
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 2: Ham's that Chamaiah to walk in and they could you know,

2020
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: figure it out there or whatever, and then he just didn't.

2021
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: Then he called him a fake gangster. You're feeling about this.

2022
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 4: H I'm not surprised. You know, Dana was asked about

2023
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 4: this last night and he again gave that sort of

2024
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 4: canned answer of like they're fighters, this happens, and.

2025
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: Which he's right about. By the way, I think.

2026
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Normally we would just go like, oh, wow, this was cool,

2027
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 4: what do you think? But like, how about this, Let's

2028
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 4: not forget that hamsa is like, look, did you see

2029
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 4: that the UFC two seventy nine Countdown show. By the

2030
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 4: way they put some they put the put more out

2031
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 4: of context BC in their shout out to the UFC.

2032
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: Pree they love they love out of context BC. They

2033
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: love it.

2034
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 4: But like they called him the biggest probably you know,

2035
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 4: the most the most high prospect in the history of

2036
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 4: the UFC. They outright said that the most talented potential.

2037
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: You know, we look at him as a potential two

2038
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 4: division threat. We saw what he did to Meer shirt

2039
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 4: with one punch he made him made a Meer shirt

2040
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:12,799
Speaker 4: his pants, Luke shout out to Justin Kish, But uh,

2041
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 4: is this is this like a fight you could make?

2042
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I mean, look like if Hamza

2043
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 4: gets by Nate, like whether it's Leon or Kamaro coming

2044
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 4: through that door, it's gonna be one of them, Luke,

2045
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 4: maybe both of them, you know, But would you does

2046
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 4: this get you excited knowing that Paulo Costa is just

2047
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 4: all over the place anyway, that this could be the

2048
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 4: kind of sex theater like Romero Coasto was that we

2049
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 4: deserve as fans, Luke, Right.

2050
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: No, it did nothing for me. I recognize that it

2051
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: could be interesting a potential down the road, because remember

2052
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 2: he can fight at one ay five, certainly Ham's not

2053
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 2: Chumaya versus Paulo Costa fight, and how fucking batshit that

2054
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 2: might be, don't get me wrong, very very fun to consider.

2055
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know. To me, it would just felt like,

2056
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, overly testosterone fight week nonsense that you know, blew.

2057
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 4: Up on the lip that that's the fastest way to

2058
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 4: my heart.

2059
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Luke, Yes, I certainly can tell that interactions at the

2060
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: weigh ins are your two favorite things.

2061
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 4: But shout out to the Iron Chike for shouting us out.

2062
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 2: Luke by the way, Yes, yeah, I'm just pointing out that,

2063
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: like in the end, what does it really mean. It

2064
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 2: just sort of means that these guys are a little

2065
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: bit agro. But there's nothing really to sort of come

2066
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 2: from that, all right, h b C. I gotta tell

2067
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 2: you I love this matchmaking. I really do. December tenth,

2068
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 2: UFC two eighty two, Darren Till is back taking on

2069
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: the South African Dricis Duplesse. I think Fresh af win

2070
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: over Brad Tavares more recently, b C. I'll say this,

2071
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: if Darren Till can't get the jab going against a

2072
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: guy like Dupless, who is not an easy gotta be

2073
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: very physical, but will run into challenges sometimes inadvisably. If

2074
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 2: Till can't put a jab on him, I don't really

2075
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: know who he can.

2076
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love this fight because, like Darren Till

2077
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 4: needs to make a loud statement. So while this guy

2078
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 4: does bring with him a certain level of you know, Cole,

2079
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 4: I mean he's climbing the ladder, he does walk seemingly

2080
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 4: face first into the action, it could end up being

2081
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 4: the perfect opponent for Darren Till to have a big

2082
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 4: moment against if there's still a lot left in that tank.

2083
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 4: And look, I'll say this, I've been I mean, I've

2084
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 4: been highly critical until since I thought Wonder Boy beat

2085
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 4: him and then they rushed him to the title shot.

2086
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 4: I do think long term, he's a hilarious troll and

2087
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 4: he you know, there are elements to his game that

2088
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 4: I very much respect, But dude, he needs it. He

2089
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 4: needs something big to happen here. He's got to go.

2090
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,600
Speaker 4: He's if and I'm gonna give him the respect that

2091
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 4: the relationship with JEMAIAV and really you know, getting a

2092
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 4: new look at things in the long time he's taken off.

2093
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 4: I do think he could do it. He could make

2094
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 4: a run here, Luke, it's in him. It's possible. I'm

2095
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 4: not saying the odds are likely, but this might be

2096
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 4: the fight to kick start it or if he's if,

2097
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 4: if there isn't a Darren Till two point oh coming

2098
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 4: through that door, this could be the fight that snuffs

2099
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 4: it out completely.

2100
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 2: I mean, the other part about Riggers Duplessi is that

2101
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 2: he does run kind of headlong into trouble. But as

2102
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 2: I mentioned, very physical And here's the other part too,

2103
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 2: Like his work rate is way higher, way higher. I

2104
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: think Till likes for the fight to slow down a

2105
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: little bit and then pick it up at his pace.

2106
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Dupless is on you the entire time, So it's actually

2107
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 2: really good matchmaking. I like this. I'm just pointing out

2108
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: if Till has sharpened his tools in the way that

2109
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 2: which he should have by this point, not completely obviously,

2110
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 2: He's still in his twenties, I believe, but you know,

2111
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 2: he should certainly have made significant improvement. This is one

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Speaker 2: of those fights where a really good jab, long reach,

2113
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, good footwork should make this winnable for Till.

2114
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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

2115
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: Look, I've been sitting on this dog toy in my

2116
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 4: chair for twenty minutes before I realized it. Does that

2117
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 4: lead you to believe that I did it because I

2118
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Speaker 4: enjoyed it? Because that was not the case.

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, I just think you're a donk. Yeah,

2120
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 2: all right, BC, this one had to be your favorite.

2121
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: And if this doesn't end up And have you seen

2122
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 2: this shit today, you're a fucking fraud. How about ty Emery?

2123
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 4: While you're taking everything I work for wany don't.

2124
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: You we won't have to show it. We don't have

2125
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 2: to show it. In fact, don't do it yet, don't don't.

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01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 4: I got the same, I got this same. Do you

2127
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 4: have her quote? Readers, you're fining.

2128
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: So this is the quote she was asked about. I

2129
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: said this to my friends and they were like, I'm

2130
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: sorry you have to cover this. I'm like, you're sorry

2131
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 2: that I have to cover women knock each other out

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01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 2: and then flashing titties or you know what about that

2133
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 2: is lamentable. But in any event, this is what she

2134
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 2: told mma fighting quote. To be honest, I feel like

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01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: BKFC is the sport for me. I feel like with

2136
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: my personality and have a look at what I pulled

2137
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: over the weekend, it's only gonna get worse. This is

2138
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 2: who I am, so fortunately, unfortunately people, it's gonna get worse.

2139
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: The more I am enabled, the more comfortable I feel

2140
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 2: to not be so shy and introverted. Is that really

2141
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 2: a concern? If that's me being introverted and shy, it's

2142
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: just gonna She's gonna get a little crazy with BKFC

2143
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 2: and my personality. They'll support the things that I say,

2144
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,719
Speaker 2: how I feel, how I think compared to other combat

2145
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: sports where they probably don't want that sort of behavior. Word,

2146
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: is that really the problem in combat sports? Everyone's too

2147
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: reserved well or don't want someone with the opinions that

2148
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 2: I like to hold. The call came and I haven't

2149
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: looked back since.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Dude, BKFC is one thousand percent the

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01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 4: the the tattooing of this combat sports universe. The uh

2152
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 4: what's that? The CANTEENA looke that is completely what? Yes,

2153
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 4: it's like you know a place that finally respects me.

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01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you got to give her credit, you

2155
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 4: know in terms of like women's progressive rights doing this

2156
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 4: tribute to Brandy Chastain at the ninety nine World Cup,

2157
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 4: you know the USA team. I mean it was you know,

2158
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 4: I could see the parallels. There was touching.

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Speaker 2: Is that? What is that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: Kevin Gartnett, what's up with the shirt? Was that what

2162
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do here? Again?

2163
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 4: Do you know that? I I tried to get the

2164
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 4: h I don't want to disappoint our horny fans, but

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Speaker 4: I tried to get the video on hysts and producer

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01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 4: Mike was like, I don't think we should show the

2167
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 4: full guns. Maybe there's like a blocked vision. I did

2168
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Speaker 4: counter I did counter with we showed Gina Corrono that time,

2169
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 4: Luke her Instagram post, maybe we got lucky showing that,

2170
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 4: you know, maybe we got that. That got through the sense.

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Speaker 2: She's making very big movies that goes straight to uh

2172
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:04,799
Speaker 2: not even DVD now, so she's doing.

2173
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Louke, this was this was the ultimate. They weren't

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Speaker 4: talking about me, but now they are turn around. And

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Speaker 4: by the way, this was BKFC Thailand, Bangkok. Indeed, Luke,

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01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 4: this this was wild. I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 4: what you're looking for me to say, that's the only

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Speaker 4: material I have for this, Lugo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be honest. I found her Instagram after this. Uh,

2180
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't follow, but.

2181
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 4: She followed you back? Did she follow you?

2182
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 2: I did. I didn't follow. I didn't follow, but I.

2183
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 4: Followed because I wanted to follow the story.

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Speaker 2: Luke. Okay, yea, yeah, you're a real sleuth and Internet

2185
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Speaker 2: detective is where you are. What are remind folks? You

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2187
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2188
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Speaker 2: can like us on YouTube, YouTube dot com, slash Morning

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Speaker 2: Combat subscribe if you have it, BC uh put up

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Speaker 2: the graphic. We are up for another round of Best

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Speaker 2: MMA Programming at the World MMA Awards. You can if

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Speaker 2: of time left, or if you're listening to the audio

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Speaker 2: need is one vote? What one ballot for us?

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Speaker 4: Look, if you like Ariel, then go to his show,

2199
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Speaker 4: all right, he's a nice guy. He's a nice enough guy.

2200
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2202
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, vote for MK.

2203
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Why don't you vote for MK? Why don't you

2204
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Speaker 4: get us back there?

2205
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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, that's it. Time for your BC specs.

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Speaker 4: Normally we do this on Mondays, Luke, but we had

2207
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 4: an abbreviated week. By the way, I did want to

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01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 4: shout out, as always our bonus content YouTube dot Com

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Speaker 4: Room Service Diaries with Ajmickee Luke a very candid and

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Speaker 4: it if they if they go after it, Luke, So

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Speaker 4: check that out.

2215
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird.

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01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 4: It is a little bit weird. But you know what

2217
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 4: I do normally though, I scot or the globe, the internet,

2218
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 4: even for the good, the bad, the ugly, the highs

2219
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: and lows and in between, from combat sports and beyond.

2220
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 4: We call this BC's feces.

2221
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 2: So you're like, you like, you know how I normally

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01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: go and what I normally do. I'm like, yeah, touch

2223
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 2: yourself inappropriately and the Arby's drive through is what do.

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01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 4: I once got busy in a burger king bathroom, Luke. Okay,

2225
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 4: thank you, shout out.

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01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 2: It's like the beef and sheddar guy is back.

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01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah uh ufc PARI Luke was this weekend? Did you

2228
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 4: see this pre fight shoeye shut out to you know.

2229
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 2: Shoeies are so fucking lame. With the stock Towers ship.

2230
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 4: Dude with the Eiffel Town in the background. I give

2231
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 4: Gon credit for being fun and playful here.

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01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 2: Lukey.

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01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 4: Seems like a good dude, all right, Cyril Gone.

2234
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 2: Yes, Gone does seem look a good dude? They're doing

2235
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 2: a who's on first? Bit? Here? Here we go and

2236
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: this was shot stopped doing this ship?

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01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 4: But the Eiffel Tower is right behind them? Luke, is

2238
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 4: that is that like me wearing the the USA flag

2239
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 4: on my nWo T shirt?

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 4: It was it? Just?

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01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 2: You know?

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01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 4: Was that disrespectful Luke to do a shoey in front

2244
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 4: of the Eiffel Tower?

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01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 2: I don't know that it is? All right?

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01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 4: Hey, Luke, it looks like Francis and Gone might still

2247
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 4: be in the UFC. He brought a loud shirt with

2248
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 4: him to Paris. I hope he gets to rematch Gone

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01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 4: in Paris for the people. But does this tell you

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01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 4: that he's that he's back and maybe we shouldn't worry

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01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 4: about the Tyson Fury fight? Or is this just me

2252
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 4: he loves France?

2253
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 2: Well, he's from there at least spent a big part

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01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,879
Speaker 2: of his life there. Obviously French is his first language,

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Speaker 2: being from Cameroon. Uh. I don't know that I would

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01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 2: read too much into Kamara. Uspan was with him, who

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01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 2: also had very loud clothing.

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01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 4: So dude, but Torri did too, Yeah, loud clothing sison

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01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 4: is upon us, which I don't I don't hate. I mean,

2260
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 4: dude did.

2261
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 2: Like to be clear, I'm not shitting on it. It

2262
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: just seems like there's been the development where that's a

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01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 2: cool thing that cool people do, and I mean they've

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01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 2: never done that.

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01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 4: You know. I I can get a little flashy at times.

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01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 4: I don't have the commitment that they do. But Luke,

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01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 4: would you say the NBA fashion today is like sometimes

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01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 4: out of control. Dwayne Wade, Russell Westbrook. They take chances, Luke,

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01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 4: they take.

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Speaker 2: Big Dwayne Wade is retired, Yeah, but he was.

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01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 4: He was wearing like capris and stuff way before anyone.

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01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Tried to make an NBA fashion. I also don't get

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01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 2: who was the guy who played for the Kuzmo who

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01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 2: played for the Wizards. Remember that purple sweater he had.

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01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's like a seven footer and he's

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Speaker 2: wearing a sweater.

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Speaker 4: Remember that purple sweater that aj McKee had, Luke.

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01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was hot at balls in that room too.

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01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's his commitment, you know. You know, he'll

2280
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: be the last guy out of the hot tub if

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01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 4: he has to look to prove a point, right, Tyson

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01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,799
Speaker 4: fury style, Luke. Speaking of Francis, he picked up Gesp

2283
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 4: like a damn rag doll backstage. Did you see them

2284
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 4: horsing around there in Paris?

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01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 2: Jesus, imagine being.

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Speaker 4: As strong as Francis. I would just like pick up

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01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 4: couches with you know, like.

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01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: With the how long did you stare at the ass

2289
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 2: of Saint Pierre there?

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Speaker 4: Just oh, you know, I don't appreciate that.

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01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 2: Okay, that'd be a great canvas for tattoos.

2292
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:57,480
Speaker 4: Ask me court, Yeah, here you go. Women's featherweight Aleen Perez,

2293
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 4: a woman after your own heart, Luke. Did you see

2294
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 4: the dance she had at the weigh in?

2295
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I got tagged in about eighty million of these

2296
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Speaker 2: on Instagram.

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01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 4: Wowien, Eileen? What did I say? Alan? She's she suffered

2298
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 4: a second round submission loss to Stephanie Eggers, Luke, Can

2299
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 4: she fight her? Is this the uh?

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01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 2: She lost? Niggers is a good grappler, so you know,

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01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: take up with a grain of salt. But I saw

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Speaker 2: that apparently a few weeks ago she had talked shit

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01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 2: to either Nina Nonez or Amanda Nunez and being like,

2304
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna see the revolution start or whatever you know

2305
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 2: in September of my fight at UFC Paris, and then

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01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Nina noons after she lost, retweeted it with a laughing emojic.

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01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 4: So, dude, that's like Abraham Simpson walking into most tavern,

2308
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 4: grand opening, grand closing in and outlook that that meme.

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01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 4: That's what it's like. Yeah, Luke, you know who's becoming

2310
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 4: a folk hero to me? How about new man though,

2311
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley. He did not defeat Nasardine Imovov in a

2312
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 4: very fun fight, but the effort to close round three

2313
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 4: got it got a standing ovation in my household, Luke.

2314
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 2: So just you and your cats, yeah.

2315
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 4: Me and Reggie Jackson. But it was pretty cool. Though, Uh,

2316
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 4: you weren't impressed by this man in defeat.

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01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 2: I was impressed by the third round effort. I just

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01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 2: thought he didn't have enough going in the first two.

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01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 2: Although I gotta say, dude, Imovov looked fucking huge for

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01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 2: this sey class.

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Speaker 4: Imovov put it on Buckley a few times, like he

2322
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 4: had to come back from a lot to just try

2323
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 4: to be in it. Luke, I give him credit, but yeah,

2324
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 4: Imovov looks legit. I don't know if you do extra

2325
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 4: credit anymore. But tell the people about this.

2326
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 2: Man, Luke, Yeah, I will starting next week obviously. But

2327
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Imovov looked good. His his his pressure was good, his

2328
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: counter striking was good, his accuracy was good. He faded

2329
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 2: down the stretch, which is noteworthy. But this was a

2330
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 2: solid win for him, very absolutely.

2331
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 4: Do you know who else jumped through the screen? He

2332
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 4: might do. I have to fit a hammer for this

2333
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:52,839
Speaker 4: guy in my Doagistan cupboard, Luke. Abbus mago Metoff, continued,

2334
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 4: UFC fighters that have mago met in their name, I

2335
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 4: think approved to four thousand and Oh, Luke, dude, he

2336
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 4: beat the crap on Dustin Stolfus in like nineteen seconds.

2337
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 2: Dustin who Stolefis Stoltzfus stole face?

2338
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, Luke, but you know what's crazy?

2339
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 2: As I look face, Yeah, he beats shoe face.

2340
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he hope they're not triplets, Luke. I looked

2341
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 4: Abbus up. Do you know three fights ago he got

2342
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 4: knocked out in thirty seconds in the PFL Championship to

2343
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 4: Lewis Taylor.

2344
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 2: No, but here's the thing. He is very UFC ready

2345
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: like he's thirty two, so it's now or never.

2346
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:29,879
Speaker 4: Oh, he looked great.

2347
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he nearly he has nearly thirty fights, and that

2348
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 2: toe of his went in the mouth of Stoltzfoos, which

2349
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 2: is just fucking gross.

2350
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 4: Dude. Some people will pay a lot of money on

2351
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 4: OnlyFans for that.

2352
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 2: Ship, Luke, I know, but not them too.

2353
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 4: Astat fans probably, Dude. He looks like a like you said,

2354
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 4: a finished product almost coming in. I'm excited to see

2355
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 4: more hammers, uh, Luke. They got to find more nails

2356
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 4: to bring in after they cut, you know, got cut.

2357
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 4: Did you see that Dick Rico got or no, he

2358
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 4: retired Luke out a.

2359
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 2: Sort of disrespectful for you to call him that on

2360
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 2: his way out to do it.

2361
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 4: Did you hear what he said about my mma media

2362
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 4: brethren that time?

2363
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 2: Luke? Come on, Yeah, he was not happy with us

2364
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,719
Speaker 2: for really bad reasons.

2365
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 4: But if I don't stand up for the schmo, who

2366
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 4: will Luke?

2367
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,639
Speaker 2: I got his back, all right, Helen Yee, Helen ye

2368
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 2: will stand upright.

2369
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 4: Luca Starr was born at BKFC Thailand. Her name is

2370
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 4: ty Emery. As mentioned here is the moment she ko

2371
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 4: rung Aaron kung Chai. It was a nice finish, Luke,

2372
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 4: I mean beautiful check left hook there and then the cellar. Oh,

2373
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 4: this was a knockdown. Did they water down this clip

2374
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 4: so much that they removed all of the nudity?

2375
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,639
Speaker 2: They better not have here. We go there.

2376
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 4: I mean, all right, if you can swig through the lines,

2377
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 4: I mean I don't. I mean, I know, I've never

2378
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 4: seen that before. I'll be honest, Luke or I think

2379
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 4: it's not in this setting. Maybe like spring break or something.

2380
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've seen that on Bourbon Street.

2381
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 4: I mean it seems strategic based on the quotes you

2382
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 4: read that she knows what she's doing. There's a different

2383
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 4: form of you know, I'm an effing feeling, right, but

2384
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 4: you sent me sound of her on Ashley Evans Smith's.

2385
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 2: Podcast, which is like a sex podcast.

2386
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 4: Let's go to the videotape you have sex before fight camp.

2387
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 4: I know you're a single, you're not dating anybody, but shit.

2388
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 6: Happens somebody somebody.

2389
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2390
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 6: I thought that because all my coaches have said are

2391
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 6: just like, you need your shoulders to relax, and I'm like,

2392
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 6: in my head, I'm like, no, motherfucker, I need to

2393
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 6: get dicked down.

2394
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 4: That's what that is.

2395
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 6: I need that date to go in and plunge my

2396
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 6: shoulders and relax them down.

2397
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 4: You're like, you can't say that.

2398
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 6: Back to your coach, and you're just like, oh, yeah,

2399
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 6: we'll keep trying. I love it.

2400
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's good.

2401
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 6: It balances your hormones. Yeah for everything, confidence, mental, just

2402
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 6: being able to actually relax, like also just being dominated,

2403
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 6: Like what the fuck, it's nice. We're like punching someone's

2404
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 6: face in old day.

2405
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 4: Okay, it's enough. That's enough, it's enough. We're gonna lose

2406
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:12,799
Speaker 4: our spots.

2407
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny. BC has given me that exact

2408
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 2: same speech before the live shows.

2409
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we had a good run with

2410
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 4: ag one, but if you want to get right, Luke,

2411
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 4: get dick down right. I mean that is wow.

2412
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: I gotta get we gotta we gotta get some Delta

2413
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 2: eight gummies like in the shape of dicks. Call it

2414
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: dick down. You know.

2415
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 4: So I was gonna say, Luke, she's not only the

2416
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 4: HAIRCB president, she's also a client. She seems about that life.

2417
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 4: So she got our attention, Luke tight.

2418
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh if she your new favorite fighter, I mean, this

2419
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 2: has to be the BC special.

2420
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 4: I mean this is so aggressive that I'm really not

2421
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 4: sure what to do with it. Luke I'm gonna be

2422
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 4: fair with you, Okay, I don't know.

2423
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2424
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's pretty on brand for our show, but

2425
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 4: it's it's very aggressive. Yeah, it's you know, okay, Luke,

2426
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 4: tough for some celebrity tip on tip action. You're ready

2427
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 4: for this, Luke?

2428
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know.

2429
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 4: Unlikely tippers here Belatour president Scott Koker and Risen's Saki Karaba.

2430
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Saki Kabara.

2431
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 4: You mean Saki Kabara who tweeted and I hit the

2432
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 4: translate button looking at in It basically teased that these

2433
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 4: two have plans of doing more business in the Bellatoor

2434
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 4: Rising relationship. So what do you think about their tip

2435
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 4: to tip to har Luke, It's.

2436
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 2: A little crooked, but it's a good effort.

2437
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 4: Dude. Saki Kabar's in shape. Look at that guy.

2438
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Japanese are typically a little bit thinner than the.

2439
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 4: Do you think he could outgrapple Shatri?

2440
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 2: I mean, who the fuck knows in a promoter's.

2441
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 4: One night tournament, Luke, I'd be into that.

2442
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? Oh wow, tam or even her only

2443
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 2: pipes account, I know that.

2444
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 4: Uh, Luke. Podcasting Royalty Touch tips this week, as Khalila

2445
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 4: and THEO O Vaughn caught up Luke, nice MK shout

2446
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 4: out there right, MK, shout out that's on brand for us, Luke.

2447
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose, yeah, there you go.

2448
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 4: Did you hear she broke up with Bobby Lee?

2449
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Word?

2450
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 4: Yep?

2451
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 2: What's for? I don't know, Luke.

2452
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 4: You know, I don't tend I don't tend to. I

2453
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 4: don't try to like read people's relationships and figure it out.

2454
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: Really only m M A super couples do. I try

2455
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 4: to do that too. And by the way, good to

2456
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 4: see uh the Tornado and Raquel with rings on, Luke,

2457
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 4: They're they're going strong there. All right, yes, all right,

2458
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 4: I support MMA relationships, Luke on this show.

2459
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going here, Luke, order the dick down

2460
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 2: and shadow.

2461
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 4: Uh, Luke, I know I hassle you sometimes for your

2462
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 4: vape habit, but you know we talk about leading health

2463
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 4: experts shouting out ag one another leading health expert has

2464
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 4: just backed up your love for vape. Check this out,

2465
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 4: Luke's too much.

2466
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't know you anymore. You're driving a Tesla.

2467
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 4: Oh that's tobacco.

2468
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 2: All right? It was like great favor I don't.

2469
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 4: Know if it's like I can't stoke weed vape.

2470
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Like I got addicted to it.

2471
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Luke.

2472
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 4: That's that's Rogan level of proved business right there. Dude.

2473
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 4: You maybe I have to give you more prompts from that.

2474
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't do it because I think

2475
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: it's healthy. I mean, I just do it because I

2476
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 2: need drugs.

2477
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 4: That But when you see you know someone you you

2478
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 4: look at us a you know, a contemporary colleague in

2479
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 4: this game.

2480
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who does it. It's still a dirt bag,

2481
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 2: piece of ship thing to do. Whether I do it

2482
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 2: or Joe Rogan does it, it's still you can't vape

2483
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: and be like I should be taken seriously. I mean,

2484
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 2: and I recognize that about myself. I truly am a

2485
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 2: pathetic loser.

2486
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 4: So all right, that was from the not the Calabasas

2487
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 4: Fight Pod. That was the reunion of the Joe Rogan

2488
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 4: Experienced version. Luke, Yes, Eddie Bravo in the house, so

2489
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 4: shout out yeah, uh, Luke, do you see this karate

2490
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 4: combat highlight that's flying around Raymond Daniels. You may remember

2491
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 4: him as a martial arts legend. This wasn't his finest moment, Luke,

2492
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 4: I mean, does he have a history fighting on rams?

2493
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, Luke.

2494
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he was trying to attain the crowd

2495
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,879
Speaker 2: and ended up in the cat cow position.

2496
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 4: I think he hit his face on there in the face.

2497
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 2: Okay, ah, I mean that's.

2498
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 4: Midwestern America dunk level mistake there, Luke. That's it's perfect

2499
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 4: for this.

2500
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 2: It was great. I liked it. It's karate combat, all.

2501
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 4: Right, Hey Tom. For some MMA fighters in the wild, Luke,

2502
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 4: they really are just like one of us. Here's Matt Brown,

2503
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 4: the Immortal, working in his fight training in between being

2504
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 4: a good day, Luke.

2505
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 2: Your thoughts there you go slipping off the center line.

2506
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 2: Look at that bah whoop. I say, that's a nice

2507
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 2: park too.

2508
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Ohio, I'm sure, Luke.

2509
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Tek you about the park. You see how the blow

2510
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 2: that up one more time? So you look at the

2511
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: floor of the park there, How it's got the old

2512
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 2: wood chips. That's how it was when I grew up,

2513
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 2: although I grew up on a lot of just ones

2514
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 2: that didn't have shit except just straight up asphalt. Do

2515
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 2: the playgrounds near your area do they have like the

2516
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 2: rubbery floors? All the ones here.

2517
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 4: Now they do. But grown up, it was straight concrete, Luke.

2518
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just lost teeth landing. I mean, that was

2519
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 2: just what it was.

2520
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 4: I tell the story to my kids and they think

2521
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 4: I'm lying. At like our local park in the Factory Town,

2522
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,879
Speaker 4: we have these things to climb that were like fifteen

2523
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 4: feet tall with asphalt below. Dude, kids are falling off

2524
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 4: that crep left and right. Man.

2525
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, there used to be a triceratops like

2526
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 2: metal skeleton that was outside the National History Museum, and

2527
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 2: apparently kids were like and it was like you know,

2528
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 2: life size or whatever. Kids were like busting their fucking

2529
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: head open on that bitch the entire time. So when

2530
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 2: I was a kid, you just went up on it

2531
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 2: and then you just died. But they have sense removed

2532
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 2: it apparently.

2533
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 4: So Yeah, shout out to Action Park in New Jersey, Luke.

2534
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 4: People just went there and just did stuff. You know,

2535
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 4: I didn't care about the rules.

2536
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 2: He remember when we went to that park near the

2537
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: urban blight in Jersey City and we spent an afternoon

2538
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 2: for nothing. That was fun.

2539
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully that never sees the light to day, Luke.

2540
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 4: Your favorite fighter, Alexander Volkanowski caught up with a celebrity

2541
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 4: this week. His name has Bulah Luke, and he's still

2542
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 4: about that life. Eat this bitch, Oh, Luke.

2543
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 2: You know, I like Hasbulla, but I gotta say that's

2544
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 2: a little aggressive.

2545
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean he punched Shack. Okay, this is this is

2546
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 4: pretty aggressive, Luke. This is basically challenging a UFC champion to, like,

2547
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 4: you know, do something right.

2548
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 2: Next time I see Volkanowsky, I'm gonna throw a burger

2549
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: in his face. Do you think that harm will come

2550
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 2: of me if I do?

2551
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 4: Yes, Dude, I think you know, watching that that Sunday

2552
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 4: conversation on barstool with him, I'm pretty convinced, Luke. He

2553
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 4: he'll he'll basically go to like you for the Juggular.

2554
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 4: First chance he gets.

2555
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 2: Luke, we gotta get. We gotta get Hassbula on the

2556
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 2: RSD couch.

2557
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 4: Would be so good, dude. When he laughs, I just

2558
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 4: I just feel good. And so you see our boy

2559
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 4: Ray Flores War has Bula T shirt to the Ruiz

2560
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 4: Ortiz Fox PBC final press conference.

2561
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

2562
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 4: That was awesome, dude, Luke Valentino Chefchenko continuing to spread

2563
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 4: her brand gracing the cover of this French magazine got

2564
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 4: this sent in by a lot of a lot of

2565
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 4: our fans. Luke, ooh la la indeed, okay, who you

2566
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 4: gotta say? Okay, you celebrated the naked chick before. This

2567
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 4: is not this, you know, Look, Luke, she's building her brand,

2568
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 4: all right.

2569
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 2: I just feel like Chevchenko uniquely has the like the

2570
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 2: most inappropriately horny fans online. You ever noticed that? Oh yeah, yeah,

2571
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 2: well jeff Chenko's fans, Jenko's fans. When they're not at

2572
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 2: the Renaissance Festival picking boogers, they're definitely online talking about

2573
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 2: how the horny they are.

2574
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 4: Look, she has firearms tattooed on her mid drift. That's

2575
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 4: like catnip to them. All that she has to put

2576
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 4: next to somebody stepping on a COVID needle, Luke, Right,

2577
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 4: like then then she'd be number one, all right.

2578
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: Yes, then she would be number one, but for sure

2579
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 2: of all the field, like you think, like you know,

2580
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 2: Page Van's aance fans of the horniest No, no, Shipchenko's fans.

2581
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's weird anytime I've ever been involved in

2582
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 4: a tweet with a WWE person's handle, So like when Biggie,

2583
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, would shout us out for being a for

2584
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 4: watching MK and by the way, shout out to Biggie.

2585
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 4: The replies come for like months and they're always creepy

2586
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 4: as hack, Luke. I mean that's not a surprise, I

2587
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 4: guess for like the core wrestling fan base.

2588
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, dudes are absolutely disgusting pieces of shit, and uh

2589
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 2: don't mind being horny horn Dogs.

2590
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 4: No, it's not just dudes, dude, it's not just dudes,

2591
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 4: and it's just weird. The responsors are just weird anyway.

2592
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 2: People are weird in general. Yes, that's true. Yeah, it's

2593
01:56:57,600 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 2: mostly dudes being like horn Dog.

2594
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 4: Speaking of both Louis Orties and Sugar Ray Flores. Luke

2595
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 4: the postfight interview after losing to Andrew Ruiz Junior, Luis

2596
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 4: Ortiz rocking the free Kine Velasquez shirt. And I don't

2597
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 4: mean free on price, Luke, I mean get him out

2598
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 4: of jail your.

2599
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 2: Thoughts, dude, Luis Ortiz has got to be what seventy

2600
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 2: seventy five? I mean, how old is this guy?

2601
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 4: Dude? He's good, He's still good.

2602
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, no, No, he's not a bad fighter,

2603
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 2: but he's I mean, this my man, if he was

2604
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 2: born here he'd be collecting Social Security by now for real.

2605
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 4: All right, all right, Luke, UFC Fighters in the Wild

2606
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,879
Speaker 4: continues onto the beach. I think this is Brazil. Tabitha

2607
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 4: Ricci Luke didn't have any utensils to enjoy this watermelon,

2608
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 4: so she went after it with her hands.

2609
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 2: That watermelon looks tremendous.

2610
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 4: Well, that's what we're calling that, Luke. I think this

2611
01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 4: segment has devolved into basically an only pipe shot. We

2612
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 4: gotta probably clean this up, all right. Look, there was

2613
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 4: one other shoey in the past two weeks. I know

2614
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 4: you hate the.

2615
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: Offense so overplayed.

2616
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 4: Tyson Pedro got Laura Senko to agree to one. I

2617
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 4: don't know if you've seen this.

2618
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 2: Living all right, I mean we've seen a million of these, yes,

2619
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 2: but everyone's drinking out of a shoe how novel? Yay?

2620
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 2: Can we move the fuck on already?

2621
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 4: Luke Thomas has pissed, you know.

2622
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: I just thought, I mean, can we just can we

2623
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 2: stop fucking doing this?

2624
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2625
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, we're gross and we do party tricks,

2626
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 2: all right, what else do we do? All right?

2627
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 4: Uh? Luke Wwe had a big clash at the Castle

2628
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 4: pay per view in Wales. I didn't see it. I

2629
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 4: didn't watch it. I think Gariel was there. Actually, Leon

2630
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 4: Edwards was also there chatting it up backstage here with

2631
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 4: liv Morgan in front of the ufcn WWE SmackDown titles there.

2632
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 4: I think they call it also Luke Tyson Fury had

2633
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 4: a big moment. He was in the front row and

2634
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 4: when Austin Theory tried to cash in his money in

2635
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 4: the bank contract, Tyson Fury stepped up Mutumbo style to

2636
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 4: deliver the no, no, no here, Luke, not in Mutumbo house.

2637
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 4: Come on, you have to.

2638
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 2: Remember this clash at the Castle. Why is it called

2639
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 2: clash at the Castle?

2640
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't know. Oh boy, look there you go. Knocked

2641
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:27,839
Speaker 4: him cold, Luke. That's what you get. A fight Ousik

2642
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 4: not this guy.

2643
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how people can watch this rubbish,

2644
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 2: but they do.

2645
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 4: Luke Reel would go on to recognize real backstage as

2646
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 4: Leon and Tyson exchange pleasantries. Yep, there you go. Luke

2647
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 4: Tyson was weird.

2648
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 2: He was.

2649
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, who'd you be at the guy

2650
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 4: that's been champion for ten years? Who's Wan? Leon's like yeah, yeah.

2651
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 2: I gotta say, does does the Gypsy King ever look normal?

2652
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no, but that's just.

2653
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 2: Talks to that. Can you imagine talking to this guy

2654
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 2: like at two am outside of a McDonald's in the

2655
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 2: East Village, You'd be like, what the fuck is going

2656
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 2: on in my life?

2657
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 4: He's like the Pat McAfee of heavyweight boxing, Luke.

2658
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Pat McAfee was a kicker, right.

2659
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 4: I know, also a pro wrestler and announcer. Luke. Speaking

2660
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 4: of real recognizing real, how about our guy Mike Thomas

2661
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 4: Brown before the PFL playoffs catching up with a LK,

2662
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 4: the liver King himself.

2663
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 2: The natty Liver King. Yes, the fucking natty liver King.

2664
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 4: So you're you saying those abs ain't real.

2665
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm it doesn't. Whatever he's doing, I don't give a shit,

2666
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 2: but like, just to look at this person who is,

2667
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 2: you know, quite obviously not natural, and then to present him.

2668
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 2: So my rule is this, BC, you know my rule.

2669
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit what you do, but just

2670
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 2: be honest about it. And you know, Liver King, I

2671
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 2: got nine ancestral tenants. Well, okay, I mean which one

2672
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 2: of those is in you know, involved d ball? That's

2673
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,360
Speaker 2: what I want to know, Okay.

2674
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 4: Mark, maguire is not here to talk about the past, Luke,

2675
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 4: okay or turn the ball or uh yeah all right?

2676
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 4: Uh Luke, you know who also reeled and recognized it

2677
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 4: at the p I Not Hamsa and Costa. How about

2678
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 4: Hamza and Johnny Walker? And Luke, would you say that

2679
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 4: this Saturday's return for Johnny Walker is must win?

2680
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's a weird picture, bro. These two are those

2681
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 2: two are just caffeinated at all times. You ever noticed

2682
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 2: that they're just Yeah, they got the bug eyes and ship. Yeah,

2683
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 2: it might be for old Johnny Walker. It might be,

2684
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 2: especially he gets like put Away like.

2685
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be wild and crazy. Whutelbo will make

2686
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 4: sure of it. But dude, Johnny needs a win real bad. Luke.

2687
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 4: This made, you know, headlines everywhere. They even asked Dana

2688
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 4: about it. The head of Meta not World Peace.

2689
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Luke.

2690
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 4: Wait, what what's Facebook's new name?

2691
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 2: Is it Meta? Yeah?

2692
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:54,879
Speaker 4: Mark Zuckerberg, Luke, he is a full.

2693
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Time This was such This was such bullshit. Yeah, and

2694
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg was like, this is my train partner. I'm like,

2695
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 2: let me explain something to you, Bubba. This motherfucker ain't

2696
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 2: your training partner. He's a UFC level talent. You are

2697
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 2: just a guy he spends time with. Will be very

2698
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 2: clear about that.

2699
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 4: Not well did you see like every fighter shouted them

2700
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 4: out afterwards on Twitter and like they had a little

2701
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 4: like back and forth.

2702
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 2: Like like, dude, will be the first one to be like, oh, Facebook,

2703
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 2: is you know, suppressing the Hunter Biden story or whatever

2704
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 2: the fuck? And then you know and then oh he

2705
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 2: trains MMA. Well now he's our favorite. Well which one

2706
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 2: is it? Guys? Is he responsible for, you know, the

2707
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 2: undermining of democratic norms across the earth or is he

2708
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 2: a fun People love rich guys for some fucking reason.

2709
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 2: They just Oh, he's rich, he can do no wrong,

2710
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 2: he likes our world, he's great, he's weird. This this guy,

2711
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 2: this guy sucks. He sucks at NIMA and I don't

2712
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 2: give a shit if he never watches another thing that

2713
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 2: we do, so fuck off.

2714
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 4: I think he just I mean, this guy could shut

2715
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 4: you down in a second.

2716
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 2: Look.

2717
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 4: He could have you killed with it without even thinking.

2718
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 2: Not not not not with hand to hand combat. He could.

2719
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 2: And I can stole your role on that.

2720
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you have to make a few phone calls.

2721
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 4: He couldn't do it himself. But yeah, I forgot what

2722
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 4: I know.

2723
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 2: Weird. This is a guy that they universally revile, right,

2724
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 2: and then he all of a sudden he expresses like

2725
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 2: modest interest in Mma and like, oh this is great.

2726
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, all.

2727
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, that's great. Uh, Luke, time to head to

2728
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 4: the grid iron. Watch what happened to this high school reporter? Luke,

2729
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 4: I've covered many a high school football game on the sidelines.

2730
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:30,400
Speaker 4: You do have to keep your head on a swivel.

2731
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 2: Oh, they sent big man, Oh they just pants.

2732
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 4: He lost his pants.

2733
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,720
Speaker 2: Bro Yo, my man, you gotta be wearing you got

2734
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 2: to wear a belt around those done greens Man.

2735
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 4: Please think about it. Him getting knocked over like that

2736
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:49,000
Speaker 4: is among the most embarrassing things that can happen to you,

2737
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 4: like at a public football game with you know whatever,

2738
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:55,120
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand people there. Dude, he got pants while

2739
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 4: doing it.

2740
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 2: I bet I bet that's the most contact he's had

2741
02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 2: in like twenty years. So you probably shot himself in

2742
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 2: jizz the same time.

2743
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 4: You know, I hope we lose our show because of

2744
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 4: that comment right there. That's so disgusting.

2745
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 2: Wow, he is like, oh God, look, did you know

2746
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:10,879
Speaker 2: that RG.

2747
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:16,000
Speaker 4: Three has transitioned from largely unfortunately mediocre quarterback to an announcer.

2748
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 4: Do you know that?

2749
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? And actually you know what, wait, I'll sell you.

2750
02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 2: I'll say this much. When he covers NFL football, I'm

2751
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 2: always like, just shut the fuck out forever please. But

2752
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 2: as a college analyst, I don't mind him so much.

2753
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 4: He's all right, you're always too harsh on that guy.

2754
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 2: Man.

2755
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 4: I was love that.

2756
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, you are not harsh enough.

2757
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

2758
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Well here's his uh, here's his new viral

2759
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 4: call after after this.

2760
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 2: Guy was unbearable to deal with in DC. Let me

2761
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 2: except in twenty twelve.

2762
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 3: But other than that, it's an orgy in the end zone.

2763
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 3: It's an orgy in the end zone. It's an orgy

2764
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 3: in the end zone?

2765
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 2: Is it?

2766
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 4: I mean?

2767
02:04:56,440 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 2: Or is it an orgy? Is it an orgy? Three?

2768
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 4: That's good? You know that's a that's a that's from

2769
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 4: the Dad playbook. But the delivery was smooth. It was

2770
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, it was smooth.

2771
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 2: That was That was a Brian Campbell joke.

2772
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really recognized down that one. Look, let's go

2773
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 4: to a MC fight Night one fourteen. This is a

2774
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:21,840
Speaker 4: Kaposa Special here, Peter Roman, Kevitch face plants, Zulu Zenu.

2775
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 2: So Zuluzino had him in an Americana and they stood

2776
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 2: him up. Apparently the rule in this organization is it

2777
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what is happening on the ground, you get

2778
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 2: one minute. I mean, my man's he fell in the

2779
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 2: worst way possible.

2780
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:40,520
Speaker 4: God, so he's the son of of what raised Zulu

2781
02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:42,080
Speaker 4: to do that fought the gracies.

2782
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:44,040
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, and he fought in pride for some

2783
02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 2: time and it was, you know, remarkably terrible and he's

2784
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 2: done slap fight and everything. Just show the knockout again.

2785
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 2: My man does the worm. Watch this. It's just the

2786
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:55,320
Speaker 2: only thing that would be more embarrassing is if his

2787
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 2: pants felt like the guy on the high school track. Ah,

2788
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 2: look at this, just does the just.

2789
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 4: Dude, you can't laugh at it that aggressively.

2790
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 2: Come on, put some I'm not trying to laugh at it,

2791
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 2: but it does look a little bit like one of

2792
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 2: the seals trying to get back into the water. You know.

2793
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look you ever get deep in the couch and

2794
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 4: row eight of Delta and watch the local news and

2795
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 4: be like, man, this needs more sex, more raw moments.

2796
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 2: Let's just let's call Tymory. Let's get the dick down.

2797
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 4: Go. Well, we had a couple of tiamories in the

2798
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 4: background of this news.

2799
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 2: Update Norwich City Football's.

2800
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're the like, if you're the director

2801
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,560
Speaker 4: in the control room, look and you're not paying attention

2802
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 4: to the screen and you look up and you're responsible

2803
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 4: for that.

2804
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:45,839
Speaker 2: Wow, I gotta tell you what, man English football fans

2805
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 2: they are there. I love them. They are amazing. They

2806
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 2: are a fucking menace, bro, they are.

2807
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's unfortunately. I think that unfortunately because I'm sure

2808
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:57,640
Speaker 4: they're nice at home when they're not doing all that.

2809
02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 2: When I say a menace, I mean in the most

2810
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 2: hilariou ways.

2811
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think a lot of

2812
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 4: them are MK fans. I think we've we've attracted that.

2813
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean that's that's fucking hysteric.

2814
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Luke.

2815
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 4: We saw the guy from barstool turn a hot dog

2816
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 4: into a bong last week. The only thing you love.

2817
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 4: I love more than hot dogs is my morning coffee, Luke,

2818
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 4: my morning jacket too. They now have created a coffee

2819
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 4: mug bong.

2820
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I mean, so you can take a hit

2821
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 2: off the off the off of that and then just

2822
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 2: drink your coffee as well.

2823
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 4: Dude. Yeah, so do you remember, of course you remember

2824
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 4: Jared Shaw Skala, Yeah, of course, Gary Shaw's son, promoter

2825
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 4: of Elite XC when he had he turned into hit

2826
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 4: to hip hop. I think he's an artist now, but

2827
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 4: he turned to hip hop for a bit, Luke, and

2828
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 4: his album was called Coffee and Chronic And I mean,

2829
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 4: do they go together in your eyes? Luke.

2830
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm not awakened, big guy, because I have a career,

2831
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, but I would imagine that they do.

2832
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 4: I mean back when I when I when that was

2833
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 4: more of my lifestyle, Luke, back, you know, two thousand

2834
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 4: and nineteen ninety eight to like four yea one two

2835
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 4: thousand and three. You know, Yeah, I guess I guess

2836
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 4: it does, Luke, I guess it does, all right, Luke.

2837
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 4: Let Flip Mayweather is you know, a brilliant fighter. Did

2838
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:23,560
Speaker 4: you ever see him on roller skates?

2839
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:23,800
Speaker 5: Luke?

2840
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 2: No, but I'm told he's he loves roller skating.

2841
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, not surprisingly he's a master. I mean he's like,

2842
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 4: he's got incredible footwork and he's got some flow too, Luke.

2843
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:39,600
Speaker 2: Okay, he's dancing. People love the roller skates, bro, they're back, Dude.

2844
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 4: I was always awful at it. Like in fifth grade

2845
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 4: birthday parties, you would pick a girl for a slow

2846
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,640
Speaker 4: dance and you'd like walk around, like skate around holding hands. Dude,

2847
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 4: I would always fall while holding the chick's hand. Luke,

2848
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 4: it's devastating to my psyche.

2849
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 2: Did your pants go around your ankles? And then you

2850
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 2: just oh.

2851
02:08:57,120 --> 02:09:00,440
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, hey, look the Island boys are. They're

2852
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 4: still sparring. Remember last time they put out that embarrassing.

2853
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,000
Speaker 2: How have won a Darwin Award yet?

2854
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 4: Boxing video? But I still shout those guys out for

2855
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 4: doing that cameo for us when we won the award.

2856
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 2: They got they got paid for it.

2857
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:17,600
Speaker 4: But uh, okay, well now they're they're they know kickbox

2858
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 4: or want to be a kickboxer, Luke, So you want

2859
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 4: to be an ultimate fighter? Check the form on this

2860
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 4: guy's jeans, Luke.

2861
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe these guys have not won a Darwin Award. Ye,

2862
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:30,800
Speaker 2: just how do how does one of them just like,

2863
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 2: not like randomly, just for no good reason, drown in

2864
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 2: the bathtub or something.

2865
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 4: Do you think they get more play at a month

2866
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 4: than every one of our listeners have averaged throughout a lifetime.

2867
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 2: Probably probably, but you know, I mean, do they have

2868
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:45,000
Speaker 2: like seven or eight STDs? I don't know, but it's

2869
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 2: worth thinking about.

2870
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:48,360
Speaker 4: All Right, look, how about we close with some dick

2871
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 4: and ball humor.

2872
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 2: Right, we don't hear enough of that on today's show.

2873
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 4: Here's an after hours happy hour after work, and this

2874
02:09:56,440 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 4: chick is attempting this move with her boss sitting in

2875
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 4: the background. This is unbelievable live theater here.

2876
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm right in the pills.

2877
02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 4: Oh look, imagine doing a drunk worm at the at

2878
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 4: like the after hours get together and then you kick

2879
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 4: the boss right in the damn dick. That's not gonna

2880
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 4: help your long term value to the company.

2881
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 2: Dude. Look at this bar. This bar sucks a fat one.

2882
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:24,080
Speaker 2: This is the most interesting thing happening in this bar.

2883
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:25,760
Speaker 4: Dude. That guy was on the verge of ticket a

2884
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 4: Coto knee in the background too. After he got hit there, Luke,

2885
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:29,320
Speaker 4: he was trying to walk it off.

2886
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:33,200
Speaker 2: Wow, could you put more AC's in the window from

2887
02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:35,440
Speaker 2: fucking nineteen fifty in this shithole bar?

2888
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:39,160
Speaker 4: Loo? Look, you ever thought think about how can you

2889
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 4: can combine why it sounded like a sorry there, Like,

2890
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 4: have you ever thought about combining the X games with dicks? No?

2891
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 2: I can't say that's ever crossed my mind. Oh look

2892
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 2: at these fucking you see. I can't believe that he's white.

2893
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 2: It seems to out of character.

2894
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:53,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2895
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, big explosion there off the end of that ramp, Luke.

2896
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean, could you have more veins on that thing?

2897
02:10:58,800 --> 02:10:59,760
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing here?

2898
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Come as you are as you were, Luke, as

2899
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 4: I want you to be.

2900
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 2: Okay, is this is this? What is this the dicked

2901
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 2: down that was we were referring to earlier?

2902
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, uh, Luke. Let's go to this man

2903
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:15,480
Speaker 4: performing a magic trick on his wife. Very creative use

2904
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 4: of magic here. Let's see this sleight of hand and

2905
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 4: sleight of dong, Luke. I mean it's obviously fake, Luke.

2906
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 4: You can see the video cut. I thought it would,

2907
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 4: you know, I thought it might pop you.

2908
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 2: No, No, I gotta say social media of skits and bits.

2909
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 2: You know, all the people who talk shit about Saturday

2910
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 2: Night Live, and then you watch like Instagram skits and

2911
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 2: bits and you realize that, like all of those criticisms were,

2912
02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:57,920
Speaker 2: if not unfair, largely from people who have no fucking idea.

2913
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 4: What funny actually is us speaking of ball magic? Luke

2914
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:05,720
Speaker 4: One Championship put this on their actual Instagram account.

2915
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well, it's a nogi. Oh she pulls to

2916
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 2: tennis balls.

2917
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you walked right into that. That was great. You're like, well,

2918
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:19,879
Speaker 4: actually the technique and it was you know, in proviing

2919
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,360
Speaker 4: times was called and then oh the chicks got two

2920
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 4: balls in her hand. Great, this is my career at

2921
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 4: forty three. All right, Yeah, that's that's a Luke Thomas

2922
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 4: original right there.

2923
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm this is one of those days where I'm

2924
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 2: glad my family pays zero attention to what I do around.

2925
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 4: All right, Luke, we closed in the same category here

2926
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 4: with this snow angel. As we summer winds down, we

2927
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 4: get one step closer to the to the winter that's

2928
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:51,160
Speaker 4: going to be upon us. Look at the unit on

2929
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 4: that angel.

2930
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:57,760
Speaker 2: Luke, please tell me that this moron falls through the ice.

2931
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 4: It really would be the coute Gras if you will, Luke,

2932
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 4: if he would have done that in Crocs, would you

2933
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:13,040
Speaker 4: have been more upset?

2934
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:16,800
Speaker 2: Luke? I'm just sad he didn't get hit by a car.

2935
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 4: All right, there's the ship Luke here were I don't know,

2936
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 4: maybe we have different tastes that that was my flavor

2937
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 4: right there, you know, dark and lonely.

2938
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 2: Eh, that's it for us today, BC. Let's remind them.

2939
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 2: Let's see, we have a Friday show, Saturday, we have

2940
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 2: a live post show. Monday, we'll have a live show,

2941
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:39,280
Speaker 2: and then we're also going to be in LA on

2942
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:44,080
Speaker 2: Monday for the formal launch of the Silver Up Jake

2943
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Paul Fight. I'm pretty yeah, we're gonna do it.

2944
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:49,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna do a live MK episode in Los Angeles.

2945
02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:52,880
Speaker 4: We are going to film some goodies Luke for the future,

2946
02:13:53,640 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 4: and fans should be excited about this. It's gonna be fun.

2947
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lot of fun.

2948
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:02,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry.

2949
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,360
Speaker 4: I was gonna say. You can also get thirty days

2950
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 4: free of Showtime to check your boy BC out Friday

2951
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:10,760
Speaker 4: night from Atlantic City, a triple header nine pm Eastern.

2952
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,320
Speaker 4: I believe is the start time. I hope I get

2953
02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:17,160
Speaker 4: the start time right. Once Luke Showbox Joseph Adorno, he

2954
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 4: was on Showtime Championship Boxing. Remember we lost to Michelle Rivera.

2955
02:14:20,080 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 4: He's back, he's refreshed, he's new he's moving up to

2956
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,920
Speaker 4: one forty in the main event against Hugo. Rolled on.

2957
02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:27,280
Speaker 4: You're gonna want to see this, okay. I'll be your

2958
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,960
Speaker 4: spirit guide, I'll be your shaman. I'll help you lick

2959
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:30,440
Speaker 4: the toad.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good. So there's that as well. So

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Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing that. I want to remind everyone.

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Speaker 2: Then Nate diaz resume review is up. It's ready for

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Speaker 2: your review. We put a fair amount of effort into

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Speaker 2: this one, so I really think you're gonna like it.

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Speaker 2: It's probably one of the better ones that we've ever done,

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Speaker 2: to be quite candid with you, so please go give

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Speaker 2: that a look. Of course, the aj McKee interviews up

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Speaker 2: from room service diaries and everything else. So thanks to

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Speaker 2: Let's see showtime in Malka. Oh one more time. You

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Speaker 2: can vote for us for the World MMA Awards. Put

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Speaker 2: the QR code up there if you don't mind there

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Speaker 2: it is, and you can go to WORLDMMA Awards dot

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Speaker 2: com slash nominees get your vote in for Morning Combat now, wores,

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Speaker 2: go do that, and then of course Friday is dead

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Speaker 2: wrong and we'll do fan s ubs then Morningcombat at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com. All right, that is it for me.

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Speaker 2: That is it for BC, thanks to CBS Sports, Malka

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Speaker 2: and Showtime. We'll talk to you guys on Friday, and

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Speaker 2: until next time, all of your gains be loyal.