WEBVTT - Arcane Season 2 Act 1

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode Katay's spoilers for Arcane season two Acts one,

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<v Speaker 2>That is the first three episodes of the Arcane television

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<v Speaker 2>program on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, my name is Jason. Hello, what it is Jason Kosio.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am Rosie Nut.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to xay Vision, the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 2>dive deep in your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming fromind our podcast where we're bringing you three episodes

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<v Speaker 2>a week every Tuesday and Thursday, and extra episode on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>There is episode in case you didn't guess from the

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler warning and our incredible singing. We are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Arcane season two episodes one, two, and three Act one,

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<v Speaker 1>and after we do our speed recaps, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of dense Arcane law, we will also be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about an overview of some of the production struggles, our thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be tapping in the XRV production council

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<v Speaker 1>to share their thoughts on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Stepping out of the air lock.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Arcane season two, Episode one, Heavy is the Crown.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you thought that agn All Along had many

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<v Speaker 1>needle drops, oh baby, prepare yourself. It's a show of

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<v Speaker 1>needle drops. Obviously you're gonna get your big imagine Dragon's

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<v Speaker 1>Enemy opening song, but you will get many more songs.

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<v Speaker 1>We open in the media aftermath of Jex's hex infused

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<v Speaker 1>rocket hitting the council chambers. Jason Mellerer alive. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a big question mark there, but they're there. Other members

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<v Speaker 1>of the council are injured or dead, including Caitlyn's mum,

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<v Speaker 1>Missus Kiraman. That's going to cause some problems going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Jase finds Victor badly injured.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy Cat can't catch a break.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, he's in the hex tech. We kind

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<v Speaker 1>of saw him. Was he dead? Was he alive? But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, now he's he's getting healed hopefully. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a funeral for Missus Kierman. Things move fast after

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<v Speaker 1>a Jinx terrorist attacks. That's sum question of this.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About that musical montage, new art style. Obviously, Counselor Salo

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<v Speaker 1>he's got plans. He wants to smashes on to pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the mysterious ambssa, Mel's mother pushing his wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to punish the under City and go to war.

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<v Speaker 1>Mel and Caitlyn argue that with Silko dead, the under

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<v Speaker 1>city is leaderless and they should take advantage of the division. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Mel loses the vote two to one. But is it

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<v Speaker 1>really unfortunate due to what happens next we'll see. Mel's

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<v Speaker 1>mum suggests the council present a unified front for the invasion,

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<v Speaker 1>and melagrees, as long as they don't use hex tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean everyone else is using hex tech.

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<v Speaker 2>I let'll just stop us here for one second to

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<v Speaker 2>big one comment. It is crazy that we're having a debate,

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<v Speaker 2>a debate which will continue after the next Zon attack.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having a debate about whether or not to go

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<v Speaker 2>to war with Zoon after Jinx nuked the fucking council. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>time to go in Jesus, why are we talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Awmongering must begin now if we kind of start now,

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<v Speaker 4>Shure a hex gem at the council and killed one

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<v Speaker 4>of the council, It's time for a war.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin blames herself for not taking the shot on Jinks,

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<v Speaker 1>which will become a reoccurring issue. And Caitlyn's mother left

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<v Speaker 1>her the Kiraman key. Now this is very cool. We

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<v Speaker 1>get to see a little history of the Kureman's and

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<v Speaker 1>what the key might do Caitlyn seeks solace in Viola,

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<v Speaker 1>who now admits that Powder is gone and Jinx has

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<v Speaker 1>taken her over. Vy wants to go on a mission

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<v Speaker 1>with the Power Gauntlets and fix this, and Caitlyn says,

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<v Speaker 1>no more rogue missions, but you can become a car

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<v Speaker 1>here's your badge, here's your I'm an enforcer, and VI's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing this. I'm gonna go get drunk with

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<v Speaker 1>the bearded guy. Discord users, if you know who the

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<v Speaker 1>bearded guy is is tell us, because he is really important.

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<v Speaker 1>There are one hundred and forty characters in League of Legends,

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<v Speaker 1>and Aaron went through every single one and he does

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<v Speaker 1>not know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and we're and we are not League of Legends players,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think one of them. One of the strengths

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<v Speaker 2>of our kene is is that you don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>know any of that stuff. The show is great without that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're have been we've been mystified trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out who this guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>Jas, the hunky himbo who wanted war and now he's like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>what was bad? He wants to be able to keep

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<v Speaker 1>victory of live with the hex Tech, and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do it. But he doesn't really understand how

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<v Speaker 1>he's got survivors guilt due to sky dying because of

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<v Speaker 1>his Invictors hex plans. Mel tells Jase about the council

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<v Speaker 1>meeting and says, like, you go talk to Caitlin and

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<v Speaker 1>see what's going on, because we don't know what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. As Jason said, you probably should have just

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<v Speaker 1>sent some people down there and stopped it. Caitlin is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the courtyard and she's thinking again and again

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<v Speaker 1>about the shot she didn't take on Jinx. This is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously gonna become a big stopping point for the Will

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin and Vi ever get together crowd? And Jace wonders,

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<v Speaker 1>is y right, Like, will the hex tech works? Should

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<v Speaker 1>she let her get those famous gauntlets? And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>hex Techs may keep us alive, Jase, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>what will save us. Junior Officer Maddy Nolan, another new

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<v Speaker 1>character for Arcane, finds Violet. Turns out Violet is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a legend among the Enforcers. Interesting. Interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like she's a bit of a rogue, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the Enforcers like her, and it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice to hear that that Caitlin has been talking

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<v Speaker 2>up by and being exactly. She was amazing when nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do anything, she went and took on Silko alone.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so courageous and brave, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a This is a big factor in VI's later decision

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<v Speaker 2>to spoiler mild spoiler join up exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Which you know if you've seen the trailer, you've seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>And her bearded vagrant companion, who I must say is

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<v Speaker 1>very burly and muscly, so we get it. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be useful. He overhears and I guess he's in.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's in the team. So Mel holds a memorial

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<v Speaker 1>for missus Kierman and kind of the people who died

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<v Speaker 1>in the Council. And in case you weren't sure that

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<v Speaker 1>there was going to inevitably be a war, Violet notices

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<v Speaker 1>that there are strange mastered people at the mountain. They

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<v Speaker 1>get here and guess what. It's the Ken Barons with

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<v Speaker 1>hex Tech infused armored soldiers and are really big boy

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<v Speaker 1>and they are attacking a memorial, so pieces it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>out of the question. Caitlin is attacked by a hex

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<v Speaker 1>Tech armored soldier VI obviously saves her. Jason is being

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<v Speaker 1>pursued by Rennie with a very cool all govermented chainsaw, terrified,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool chainsaw. We do. If you are wondering whether

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<v Speaker 1>the action and the art style stands up to season one,

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<v Speaker 1>it does. And these big action sequences. The way they

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<v Speaker 1>use the color of the hex Tech against the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, washed out colors of Piltover is very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The counselors are all hiding. The biggest boy pulls out

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<v Speaker 1>Junior and Maddie Nolan.

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<v Speaker 2>No security, No security at this memorial. No security apparently

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<v Speaker 2>in Piltover, at the various points of entrance and egress down.

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<v Speaker 3>To the underworld.

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<v Speaker 2>How is this possible when you've got like all your

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<v Speaker 2>surviving heavy hitters in one room and the forces of

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<v Speaker 2>zon can just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like walking, just walking, dressing up as an auntie. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's big problems in Piltover. Jase finds a

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<v Speaker 1>hammer wink wink, very popular Jace weapon in the games,

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<v Speaker 1>his Mercury hammer. So bash is Rennie, but she's got

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<v Speaker 1>shimmer strength, baby, and everybody is on racks, everybody is fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>She cuts Chase across the back their own forces everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Violet's mysterious companion jumps in and manages to

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<v Speaker 1>protect them, kind of showing his loyalty to Piltover and

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<v Speaker 1>his new drinking buddy. Kaitlin gets off a few well

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<v Speaker 1>placed shots, but not well placed enough. Rennie proclaims for

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<v Speaker 1>my son, but come on, get are you're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to I want to ask a question.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, schats Aaron and a Boo. We've done a tremendous

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<v Speaker 2>job covering Arking season one. Check those episodes out. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a question for Rennie the chem Barren, why was

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<v Speaker 2>your fucking son working in a factory?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Oh my god. I was trying to bring

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<v Speaker 1>this up, like that's what you're gonna do. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>set You're gonna have your own son be the lookout

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<v Speaker 1>for your drug factory. Like that's on you. That is

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<v Speaker 1>that's on you. That is not on Jason, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he did rush into that, but that is on you,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely on you. And then we get this big hex

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<v Speaker 1>text blast as VI knocks her off with Jason's hammer

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<v Speaker 1>and looks super cool, and there's kind of this big

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<v Speaker 1>fight Violet can't get the hammer to reload. Jase helps her,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the last second, a big spear and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Noxian Army. Baby yes, and Bessa stands in for

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<v Speaker 1>war regalia with them, and this was obviously her plan

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning. She slits Renny throws her to the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Noxi has saved the day. Isn't that gonna work out

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<v Speaker 1>for them? Caitlin just can't believe they attacked during a

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<v Speaker 1>memorial Jason, can you believe it? Have they shown themselves to.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are these animals? How could they have done it?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you not been paying attention, babe, everything that's been

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<v Speaker 2>happening this whole team.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like they are all on this like insane

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<v Speaker 1>drug that like doesn't many were taking and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not like they're not like, oh, they're ill.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an addiction that this is like a fictional

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<v Speaker 1>drug that makes you into like a superhero hard they

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<v Speaker 1>are powered up, it's like and she's feeling the grief

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<v Speaker 1>of Kaitlinn's feeling the grief of losing her mother. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though Miss Kierman kind of sucked, Caitlin knows she shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have pushed the enforcer bad John Violet, but it's she

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<v Speaker 1>knows if she goes after Jinks alone, one of us

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<v Speaker 1>comes back in a box. So they got a team up.

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<v Speaker 1>The lesbians have got a team up together, and Caitlyn

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<v Speaker 1>uses the Kierman key. I do think this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite things about this episode. You kind of

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<v Speaker 1>learn about, You get some good ones like Lore, like

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<v Speaker 1>Strange plague outfits like history, the Gray told over these

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<v Speaker 1>really beautifully illustrated kind of slide show, and the Council

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<v Speaker 1>is meeting in secret. Caitlin's like, Bro, I'm on the Council.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going into Zorn, I'm gonna locate Jinx, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate the Shim operation. I'm gonna root out anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>is still loyal to Silko. And why will I be

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<v Speaker 1>more successful than anyone else? Well, we've got a few

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<v Speaker 1>surprises of our own, and what it is is that

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<v Speaker 1>Navy Junior Officer Maddy Nolan new character and Shield Guy

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<v Speaker 1>also new character. Ah here they've got special Forces looking

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<v Speaker 1>like Cammi from Street Fighter, and then they have Violet

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<v Speaker 1>and she's also down for now with her badass corntlet

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<v Speaker 1>and the episode ends with Victor's body flinching. He's still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, that's not actually the end, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this more. Cut to Sins traveling in the

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<v Speaker 1>snow to a cave with two wolves, and just like Sins,

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to be on a journey with us

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<v Speaker 1>as we talk about Arcane Act one. And so let's

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<v Speaker 1>listen to a message from our sponsors while we take

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<v Speaker 1>a break.

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<v Speaker 3>M Okay, we're back. Can I ask you?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask one question that we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to answer right now. The Naxian Army and AMBSSA like

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<v Speaker 2>one shot these Zohnian big boys like with the spears.

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<v Speaker 3>Boom boom boom boom boom gone, why don't we send

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<v Speaker 3>them down there?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's that's just what she asked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll we'll talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's season two Power Season two, Yes, episode two,

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<v Speaker 1>watch it all open. There's music, there's imagic dragons, and

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<v Speaker 1>now is monologuing to Silko in the waters. Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>another musical montage where the casbout.

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<v Speaker 2>The the This moment with Silko and Jinx felt a

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<v Speaker 2>little oz and mom, didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It, oh baby, which I actually found very interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I had never found I had never gotten that vibe

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<v Speaker 1>from the relationship before. I definitely got the adopted father vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time was very love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was, I mean from Silko side, it was

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<v Speaker 2>certainly like the various very obvious father dag yeah things.

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<v Speaker 3>That was actually one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That was I thought was one of the best like

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<v Speaker 2>emotional subplots of the entire season.

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<v Speaker 3>One was that I actually felt.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad when Silko Yeah, me too, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was it was just it struck me as

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<v Speaker 2>a very weird tone because she's cradling his face and

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<v Speaker 2>it was anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Jinks like chill out. She obviously has guilt, but it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the music musical montage where we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see each of the kem Barons fading away from the

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<v Speaker 1>table after their death. Jink saves a little kid from

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<v Speaker 1>gang members, not particularly for altruistic reasons, but it will

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<v Speaker 1>become very important.

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<v Speaker 2>She points a gun at him and is like, day

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<v Speaker 2>you feel that, like you feel the fear of like

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<v Speaker 2>it can all end of the second of Idolatry. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like Jinks, Jinks, come wow, your sister, chill out.

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<v Speaker 1>Her wanted posters are all over the alleyway and the

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<v Speaker 1>kid decides to follow Jinks and this will be like

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<v Speaker 1>an important point going forward. Smeach, perfectly named Smeech is

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<v Speaker 1>putting his next move to remove the maning keem barons

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<v Speaker 1>as they divvy up what's left of Silko's empire. His

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<v Speaker 1>accountant worries about hitting Margo and cautious story. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just need you to know that that

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<v Speaker 1>Smeach has an accountant, That's the most important thing. Sa

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<v Speaker 1>Vikier is holding a meeting with the other kem barons,

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<v Speaker 1>urging them to put aside their squabbles, and Smeech is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be you a new arm if you deliver me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jink Sevikia is like, eh, I'm gonna set and guess

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<v Speaker 1>what Jinx is there in the rafters. They connect over

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<v Speaker 1>how much they used to do for Silko and Jink's leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>But Smeech was hiding out waiting. That's not gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>well for him. Now Victor is hearing voices through the

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<v Speaker 1>hex tech blob he is in case thin. He's managed

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<v Speaker 1>to pull himself out, and now his body's looking like

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<v Speaker 1>a skeleton and a T one thousand and he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>very strange, and this is going to be the start

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<v Speaker 1>of something the fans will know about in the Glorious Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Jase offers him clothes because he's like, you must be

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<v Speaker 1>called no Jase. He is like a hex techy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>hex Jesus. Like Jase plans to resign from the council,

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<v Speaker 1>and Victor's like, I don't care. He's like you thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was your friend. Now I'm just living hex tech.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta put on this cloak and take out my

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<v Speaker 1>gandal staff and we got to be on our way.

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<v Speaker 1>Echoes firelights are taking more refugees but hymen, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them is Heimerdinger, who's like entertaining the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like a bubble gun checking this out. Kids made

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<v Speaker 3>of Canadon that makes bubbles.

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<v Speaker 1>Echoes worried about, like the leaves are kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>like they're being poisoned, which we can recognize looks like

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<v Speaker 1>hex tech or like there's purple and blue on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Heimerdinger and Echo decide the best thing to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to do a heist. And I love this because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love him through his own facility has complete access.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also like, fuck that I'm not part of

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<v Speaker 1>them anymore. Man puts on a mask, makes up code

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<v Speaker 1>phrases and Jase obviously catches them and confirms that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is Hex's Tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Now somehow hex Tech is drifting.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow hex Tech is drifting to somehow hex Tech returned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And now we see Messiah Victor and he

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<v Speaker 1>is walking through the underca hearing Sky's voice, whom he

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<v Speaker 1>is now by the lab assistant that he killed with

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<v Speaker 1>his experiments, and he sees footsteps a light before him.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what group of vagrants follow him, including our

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<v Speaker 1>tragic buddy Huck. And you're gonna know what happens next.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jinks, first of all, hiding an old arcane, sees

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<v Speaker 1>the Enforces through the smoke. Uh oh, it's Vi and

0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.040
<v Speaker 1>her other crew. Let's say Aaron made up this great

0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.439
<v Speaker 1>name Seal Team Kiss. Jinks has shot a Violet, but

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<v Speaker 1>she can't take it and it's a lone tear drops

0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and falls on Violet's hand. Jinx escapes, but as she runs,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets ambushed by Smeach back again. Sevika saves her.

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<v Speaker 1>Jinks has built Sevika a sick new arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Great video.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so yeah, please, I mean I think Legal Legends

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<v Speaker 2>people will understand how this arm works.

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<v Speaker 3>But it seems to have like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Random power generator, Like that's kind of like a one

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<v Speaker 2>arm bandit style, Yeah, a mechanism, and I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand how it works. Like my understanding of gambling

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<v Speaker 2>with those types of machines is you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>like more than one symbol like hmm appear in each

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<v Speaker 2>of the slots. And so I guess I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand like how the power of the arm works.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess like the arm is probably like the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is probably like hepsac, you know, but I may be.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like the the the boxing glove appears in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle and then she has the boxing glove power,

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<v Speaker 2>but like another time, like a mushroom appeared in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle and there was nothing. So like I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>am people who understand League of Legends get it.

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<v Speaker 1>A League of Legend lowheads tell us, Aaron, Aaron, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>cooling as it works.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how it works. But I also think

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<v Speaker 5>Civika is not another character in Legal Legends, so there's

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<v Speaker 5>no game lore as far as I can tell.

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<v Speaker 3>Around me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, very insting, very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I was like, how is this armworking in this fight?

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<v Speaker 3>That looks really cool?

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<v Speaker 1>We have it looks incredibly cool, and it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>bad idea because it's kind of this casino luck of

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.520
<v Speaker 1>which slot machine kind of powers you get and it

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 1>does look really cool. So eventually she kills Smitch smeech Jackpot,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we go back to Victor and guess what

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<v Speaker 1>Victor is curing lepers? But he is curing them with

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<v Speaker 1>hex Tech energy and essentially replacing their skin with like

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Hextech armor skin. And once the vagrants and the crew

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<v Speaker 1>see it happened to Huck, then they start to bow

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<v Speaker 1>down to Victor and it's clear that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be going around curing the people who are addicted to

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<v Speaker 1>Shimmer by replacing their skin with his Hextech And this

0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.719
<v Speaker 1>seems absolutely unhinged to me, Victor, but go for it.

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Another ending fake out. It was not the end, even

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.879
<v Speaker 1>though that would have been a big end. Now we

0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.200
<v Speaker 1>catch up with Cinched again. He's killed the two headed

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.639
<v Speaker 1>wolf Boo and extracted its fangs and eyes, but has

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>somehow kept the double heart pumping, just like we keep

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast pumping. Messages from US posters and We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Arcane Season two, Episode three, finally got the name right.

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<v Speaker 1>Using the Kiraman key, Caitlyn lends her family devised the

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<v Speaker 1>ventilation system to isolate the Gray Seal team. Kiss finds

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 1>he not smeeches old account, and I told you the

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>account would be important. Tied to a propeller in a

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.119
<v Speaker 1>ventilation system. He really, he reveals, and this is actually

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a really good evil plan Jinx planning to reroot the

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.760
<v Speaker 1>ventilation systems. Caitlyn's like, fuck this, I'm actually done with it.

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Now we're We're going to war. Amara, a member of

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.919
<v Speaker 1>Piltover's Merchant Guild, seeks an audience with am Bessa to

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.479
<v Speaker 1>settle a debt. She's actually a witch. Love this threatening

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 1>ambssad that even in Piltover, her kind is still watching

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 1>her and she'll never succeed. This basically confirms Ambssa's suspicions.

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.280
<v Speaker 1>She overpowers and kills Emara and a Bessa wants to

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>prepare for war. Her girl God warns that Salo isn't ready,

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't care and they should involve Mel, but am

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Bessa thinks Mel, She's like, keep her out of it.

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I love my family and Bessa's big on family, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's always making strange decisions. Violet tries to convince Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>that they should travel just as a pair. I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>just kiss first of all, and then get an army,

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>because please, the rest of the team is going to

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>get hurt. Violet knows her sister is gone. No, you

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>don't look first of all, that's my big thing. I

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>love my sister. Even if she turned into Jinks, I

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>would still be repping her. I wouldn't. But Violet, you

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 1>just gotta stop lying about the fact that you know

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Powder is gone. You don't every time, you just keep

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:10.120
<v Speaker 1>seeing And she's like, Caitlin, please don't change like everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, finally we get a kiss about time way

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<v Speaker 1>too long, and best of visits Salo, who's being attended

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 1>to by lest no kisses here. She just chokes him

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 1>out and drops him on a table and gives him

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<v Speaker 1>a concussion. She's like, mate, She's like, this is what

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:25.880
<v Speaker 1>will happen to you if you don't do what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get the families of influence because we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>have a meeting. Mel meets with Less backstage unless is

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<v Speaker 1>like your mum is crazy. She's like please, like I'm

0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.679
<v Speaker 1>o one out, like your mum's got problems. Mel Is like,

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>well I can stop her, so don't worry. And Lester

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, here's you. You can't. You don't know what

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>she's got. You can't, we can none of us can

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.959
<v Speaker 1>stop our mums. Lest gives Mel a new cocktail spiked

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<v Speaker 1>with shimmer. Uh oh, I feel like everyone's getting into

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the shimmer business. Not a good idea, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Jace, he's exploring the wild Ruins with Echo and

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 1>him a Dinger. This is a fun trio, explaining that

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the arcane is everywhere and the wild ruines might be

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<v Speaker 1>a reaction of overuse of hextech. Heimerdinger says, oh, ball suck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. Now, I will say we have been talking

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>about this hypothetically before this and working out now, Abou says,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's correct. I'm sure that they said the arcane

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 1>in the first season of Arcane, but they are bringing

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot more. Now, what is the arcane? That's

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 1>what we've got to talk about that afterwards, because like

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.679
<v Speaker 1>we don't know. Jace, Echo and Heimerdinger are now on

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a little fun adventure, they go deep underground to see

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>what the heck Skates are doing. They reach the Gemstone

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.919
<v Speaker 1>Mesh base, where they have a fail space. But while

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Echo and Jace argue, Heimerdinger notices the Arcane's influence and

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>suddenly the wild Rune appears and envelops the room. These

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>are some really trippy visuals, guys. I know we're doing

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>like this is obviously an audio recap, but I'm saying,

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>if you've watched the show once you have had your spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>put it on and just like go through the visuals

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>because the hex Tech stuff and the hex Gate stuff

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>here starts to really push the ideas of what made

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>this show great in the first season, which is like

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>different styles of animation used on top of each other,

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 1>unexpected colors, beautiful landscape. So Violet and Caitlin reach a

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>chamber littered with Jinx's graffiti. She just can't help telling

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>people where she is. Jinx blames Violet for betraying their

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>roots and working with the enemy. Caitlyn takes a shot,

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>but it was just a reflection. You did not kill

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>your girlfriend's sister. Jinks appears behind Violet, and as Caitlyn

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>lines up a shot speaker ambushes her. Everyone in this

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 1>fight is out for blood. Great fight scene. Also, just

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like a huge moment in slow mo, in this show,

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you get the Jinks so much Lomo and also big

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like jinks Vy moments. Here the wild Room reacts to

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Jason or the hex Tech. Now we're back with them

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and the weaponry short circuits, and we kind of get

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.959
<v Speaker 1>these glimpses of what the Heck's tech could do and

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>what it shouldn't do, and it's very interesting. Caitlin blows

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 1>off Jinx's middle finger. I don't know if these family

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Dinners are going to be good in the future, and

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<v Speaker 1>Violet jumps on her, ready to finish her off. But Isha,

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the little kid that Jinks save told you that kid

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>would be important, grabs a gun, gets in between Jinks

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and Violet, and Caitlin fires a bullet to knock out

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>the gun, but v will not let Kate show shoot Jinks.

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>She says, for here fear of hitting Esha, but also

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because that's your say. Jason's like, he's

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>just killer I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am how much more. Listen, no one wants to see

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>a little kid get shot. This is a kid with

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>a gun. That's pointing a gun at one of your

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 2>squad members. This is a kid with a gun protecting

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the terrorist of this underworld that not only like murdered

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 2>the council in an unprecedented attack, but is part of

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the group, you know, attached to the group that later

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>attacked the Memorial like and is up to no good

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>down here, planning on rerooting the ventilation.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Systems of the tunnels.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I cannot polluted piltover like and flooded with noxious chemicals

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and drug air.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I know not. And guess what, Just take the shot.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Just Caitlin, your mom's dead too? Is that adding all

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>furity to you? I have Violet and Kate, they're not

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not going well for them. Savika activates a propeller

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.719
<v Speaker 1>gens jettinis in cat and via way and setting off

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>their plan and then we see and pilt over the

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>vents all explode with very colorful explosions. Is this the great?

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Is it a glitter bron pank? Is it shimmer? You

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>know what? We're not gonna find out right now because

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>we go back to Caitlin and Violet, and Caitlyn is like,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I never should have expected anything different from you. Like,

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and then she hits over with the butt of the

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>gun in the stomach and Violet crying alone and the

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>kiss it's over. They kiss, and now they're broken up

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.479
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be bad for everyone. Mel And

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and Laura have been spying on Sailo as well as

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, what wise, where's my brother gone? What's

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 1>going on with that? And a Laura is overcome with

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the witch's magic and whispers Black Rose as Mel is

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>overtaken and disappears very interesting. She drops the cocktail lest

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>gave her good No shimmer for you. And then this

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>is the big moment at the end here, which kind

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of sets up how this scene is going to end,

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but also I would assume kind of teases how the

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>rest of room Terra will come into it. Sailo and

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>am Bessa meet with the remaining families of influence. She

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>beat him up and he bought the families there, and

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>am Bessa says, look Zorn night, assassin's killed. Amara. Wrath

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 1>must be met with wrath. She urges them to declare

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>martial law, and she and her Noxi and soldiers will

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>be at their disposal until all families are safe, and

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>then she's like, so we got to get a new leader.

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>And obviously Sailor's sitting up in his little chair and

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I'm ready, but me here we go go.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>She's not talking about you, Sailoh, She's talking about Kaitlyn Kierman,

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and this is her plan. From the beginning, we get

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>flashbacks of Ambassador and her troops. They're scheming, and by

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the end of this even junior Officer Maddie Nolan is

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>pounding her chest with the idea of war, though interestingly,

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>our bearded vagrant shield guy is not having it and

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 1>walks away, which makes me think he has some kind

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of history with Ambassador and Noxia. Anyway, very good, strong ending,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's not really the ending because we got to

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>go back to Singe. Do we hear heavy animal breathing.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Blood is coursing through his vials into singed body, and

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>he's attached to some kind of massive creature suspended above him.

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And that is the end of Act one of Arcade

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>season two. You will get the next season next week.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Once a week, I mean the next act once a week,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>so you have to wait another week. Jason, your feelings

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>about Kaye season two, Act one?

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that they took it up a notch with

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>regards to the animation style. With regards to the action,

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I might here's my one note, and while we'll discuss

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>this with the group as well, I think the pacing

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>is needs to be faster, in particular because due to

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the outrageous costs over runs of production of this show,

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>we're only getting season two. See it's over after season two.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think the fact that it took three season

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>three episodes to open season two of debate about like

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>are we going to attacks on should we go to war?

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>About with Zon?

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Are we going to go after.

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Like two devast like incredibly devastating attacks that either on

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>their own would be enough to be like yes, then

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the fucking troops and what are we waiting for?

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Is crazy? It's I think.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I love all the side plots, but like those should

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>be pruned down, and just in general, like I feel

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 2>like we should have opened up season one Caitlin and

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the Strikeforce and v are in the tunnels and we

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 2>start from there. It's just too much talking about doing

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>the thing. And this is where I feel like you

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>really feel that they must not have had a lot

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of material written and ready to go when production ramped

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>back up, because this is just like a lot of

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>slow mo and needle drops and not.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Moving the ball forward story wise. Anyway, that's what I think.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 3>What did you think, Crazy?

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, I think you make some really good points.

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I love seeing this back on a screens. It's really

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>really beautiful. I love the will they won't live Caitlin

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and I. I love Seat Jinks and Vie back together.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I do think it's really interesting because seeing

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>as it is adapting a game that is not necessarily

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a narrative heavy game in its game play, it does

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>end up almost feeling more like it's adapting like a campaign,

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they're so much like talking and plotting,

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of more like your vox Markina or something like that.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting, and let's call in our own seal team

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Kiss to discuss the events of Act one, Aaron.

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts, Your thoughts on Chapter one, Season two of

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Arcane thus far.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 5>I thought the ending of episode three was incredible and

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 5>one of almost maybe even better than I thought the

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 5>end of season one was. I loved the little twist

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 5>with Caitlin being, you know, in charge of everything. And

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm a fan of the Wolf of Wall Street chest

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 5>pounding as much as the next guy, and so I

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 5>love seeing that with everyone. I did think the the

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 5>fake out post credit scene every episode was too much.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 5>I totally could have had.

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>That so at exactly, I don't.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 5>I didn't care enough about Singed from season one to

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 5>need an update on him every single episode, And if

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 5>they are building him up to be the big bad,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 5>I needed more of him in season one. Also, along

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 5>the lines of what Jason was saying, maybe they didn't

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 5>know that they were going to do that with him,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 5>and so now they're trying to make up for lost time. Yes,

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, give us. I think what happens is they had.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Animatics and production material left over from season one, and

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>as production ramped up for season two late and delayed,

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't have enough writing, what.

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Are they gonna do? Throw that stuff away?

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>We needed to figure out a place for all this stuff,

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's why you have this kind of hodgepodge, a

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>weirdly paced.

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It makes a great point that originally the show was

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>set to be five seasons. Yeah, and then they had

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to shrink it down to two. Now. I think at

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>first a lot of us were like, ooh, you're saying

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna end it off to two seasons. That feels

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like a kind of brave creative choice where you obviously

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>know you're telling the perfect story. We now know that

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that is obviously a production decision, so I think we

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>asked starting to feel a little bit of that. I

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>also want to say, though, I think if you loved

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the first season of the show and you were just

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>vibing on it, and you love the music and you

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>love the vibes, I think you're just gonna love being

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.479
<v Speaker 1>back in this world. I do think it's like a

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>very specific space, and I think if you are committed

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to it, this second season does feel a little bit

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>less accessible than the first. Is like one of my

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>biggest critiques because I knew so many people who never

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>played Legal Legends, who don't watch animation, who loved the

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>first season of Arcane. I don't necessarily know if when

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>they jump into this second season unless they've rewatched it

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and kept up with it, I don't know if it's

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>necessarily going to be as much as an easy jump in.

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 5>I do love the almost Game of Thrones esque treatment

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 5>of characters, where we have so many characters in the

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 5>show that we can start playing with the pairings, and

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 5>like you mentioned in the recap, I love love jas

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 5>Heimerdinger and Echo.

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>That feels like it's gonna be like a fan fave grouping.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 5>I also love Jinx working with Sevika, like that relationship

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 5>changing from being so antagonistic to Jinx without even Sevika asking,

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 5>she just made her this new arm that, like you were.

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Saying, the standing that you have to like team up

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>with the people who are.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 5>We relied so much on Silko and he's gone, What

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 5>do we do now we have no place in the

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 5>world kind of But like you mentioned the game, the

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 5>game has over one hundred and forty playable characters, and

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 5>as you kept mentioning, we have the Shield guy who

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 5>we still don't know who he is. We have Junior

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 5>Officer Maddie Nolan. We have the Navvi esque character of

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 5>Seal Team Kiss that we never get a name for.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 5>There are so many characters from the game they could

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 5>be introducing, And if they actually want to make this

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 5>this big expanded universe where they're making other League of

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Legend run Terra shows, wouldn't you want to be introducing

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 5>some of these one hundred and forty playable characters that

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 5>could be the leads of future shows.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Game of Thrones, and I think that's an

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>important point to jump off to talk about the cost

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>of the show. A recent Variety article pegged the entire

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>cost of the show at something like two hundred and

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars, which is staggering.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>That's most staggering an anime series of old time by

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>us a staggering long margin.

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>The first nine episodes of season one came in at

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>something like eighty million per The second batch of nine

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 2>for this season are coming in at one hundred million

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 2>per and so, and that's on top of Riot Game's

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 2>own sixty million of its own money that it put

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>into promoting the series, which is excellent and listen, and

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 2>that's clearly why they're ending after only two seasons of

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 2>a planned five. I'll just say that. I mean, we

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 2>mentioned it it up top all the needle drops. I

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>if you're looking for money to cut and.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 3>This is a first time.

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>This is like the first project of this type for

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Riot This is the first project of this type for

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the French animation studio whose name I'm forgetting, So I

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 2>get it. There's a lot of like newcomer stuff here

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that said, don't spend music licensing top dollar music licensing

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>money three and four times per episode, four and.

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Always per episode.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 2>You don't, Yeah, you don't need to do it three

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 2>four times per episode for artists that are that are

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of expensive.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Like these are not like indie artists.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>These are like mint tier artists that you're paying like

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>significant dollars for. And these are the kind of things

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>where I'm just frustrating because I.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Wish we were getting five seasons and not just two.

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 2>As we're ramping up to introduce a villain whose arc

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>is clearly going to be curtailed because we're only like

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>in the back six episodes of the entire story.

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will, I will say I agree with you.

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I also think that for some viewers the music is

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>too much. We know that Joelle is definitely in that camp,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Nick is in the same cap Like that just just

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>does not do it for them. Now, I will say, I.

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Like it, But how about cheaper artists, how about less

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 3>fine artists?

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, get there, get them some exposure, pay them

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>like not a million dollars, a million dollars. I love

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the one composer with an incredible score. But I will

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>say something that we are or we all have in

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>common here is we are all over the age of

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty right now. And I'm just gonna say, my niece

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is five and my nephew is ten, and all they

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>watch on YouTube are like edits of video games or movies,

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and they're just set to popular songs. So in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like trying to can I do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I come back equivalent?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, But the thing is on YouTube, nobody's paying the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But can I can I answer that? And I

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<v Speaker 2>do think this is a conversation we've had. I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to get Aaron's take. It does clearly seem like season

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<v Speaker 2>two they're are aiming at a younger audience. And that said,

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<v Speaker 2>and and no disrespect to any of our like age

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 2>fifteen and younger fans that might be listening. But like

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<v Speaker 2>kids don't know what's good.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll watch, you know, like they don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's one thing to like take the stylistic forms

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>of YouTube and other platforms and put that into and

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<v Speaker 2>use that to mold our cane. But like they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know a good top dollar music artist from like a

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>bottom door, Like they don't They simply don't, Like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to make it that good. If that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do, you don't have to spend that

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<v Speaker 2>much money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true to do this that they watch are like

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<v Speaker 1>really busted, like like yo, like nature kids breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Conception says, ohol kids have bad taste. They just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't know what they No one excites them,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't know that exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>So Yeah, I do think someone is gonna make that

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<v Speaker 5>TikTok edit with the clips from the show set to

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<v Speaker 5>whatever's big budget name.

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<v Speaker 2>Musician are in your thoughts, your thoughts about the music

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>drops and the general costs and the disappointment of like

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<v Speaker 2>only having two seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, as a musician, I'm never opposed to musicians

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<v Speaker 5>getting paid as writers, performers, whatever. That more said, you

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<v Speaker 5>could have licensed the song from these artists instead of

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<v Speaker 5>asking them to write a piece specifically for the show

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<v Speaker 5>just to appear in the trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, like we haven't I was going to seen the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, Aaron. What was some of the artists

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about who have recorded songs specifically for

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<v Speaker 1>the show that have yet to actually appear in the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So Ashnico does a song, uh the Around You Blue,

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 5>all Around You, very Jinx coded, like perfect match of things.

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 5>But you know, we could have had that maybe in

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<v Speaker 5>a Jink scene, but Jinx's character is so much darker

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 5>and more somber this season. We have not seen Jinks

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 5>like off the edge, like going crazy. And then also

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 5>we have this beautiful song that is sung by Cheryl

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 5>Lee Ralph, who you probably know from things like Sister

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 5>Act two or Moesha or potentially as Barbara in Aviod Elementary.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 5>She's incredible, but she sings this song that like that

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 5>could have gone in any number of places in these

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 5>first three episodes, and instead we're getting like I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>There were a couple spots the music with Victor becoming Jesus,

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<v Speaker 5>like really two on the nose, We get it, We

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<v Speaker 5>know what you're referencing here. If we don't need like

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<v Speaker 5>these choiry strings of Jesus.

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Anybody heard of Jesus?

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>You know? So you see just curing people.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, and they do have like a music video to

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<v Speaker 5>start every single episode so far, which felt like a lot.

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 2>And again this is to your point, this is not

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:16.720
<v Speaker 2>existing songs that are licensed for this which is cheaper.

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 2>This is original music that has been created for this show,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes with like songwriters.

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean Sting is a songwriter on one of these.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>This is like top dollar stuff that you're paying for

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<v Speaker 2>and it's three four times an episode.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>It does scream like music video game exact. So will

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<v Speaker 1>like make sure that you get some sting in o Kane.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I really think the kids are gonna love Sting like,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>which is anat song.

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 5>The Sting song is actually in season one, but also

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 5>season one has it had push a t on the soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like a great collection of artists but.

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Also huge names.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and my other thing we talked about the pacing.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're gonna have these montage music videos at the

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of every episode, use that to tell us a

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 5>little story, get us like faster as opposed as opposed

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 5>to just here I am remembering my mom and hears uh,

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 5>you know the different art styles and yeah, so your

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 5>point on that, Like there's one of I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>the episode two video opener where it's like.

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You see ken the pools water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then it's and then it morphs into this

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 2>uh you know music video execution telling us that now

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Silko's like lieutenants are fighting each other.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, it just feels like a double beat

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>to me, Like we get it. We've just had the

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 2>conversation that, like the gangs are disunited. We had it

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>in episode one that they're going to be at each

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 2>other's next fighting for control of the lanes. We just

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>heard Jinks in the baptism scene where she's uh, you know,

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>mourning Silko saying that, like, these two big gangsters are

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>fighting for control of the lanes. We don't then need

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:09.439
<v Speaker 2>an entire music video that like takes us through like oh,

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Silko disappearing and now this person disappearing, and now these

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 2>two already and you know, like ready disappearing, and now

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>these two already each other's next.

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Like we get it.

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>But again, I think this all comes back to the

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 2>fact that, as is reported in this Variety story that

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<v Speaker 2>after delays, they didn't have when they came back and

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>had production, they didn't have writing done. So they clearly

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.240
<v Speaker 2>were having to tread water in a lot of different

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 2>areas and find reasons to include various different animations. And

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I just think there's a lot of repeated beats that

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<v Speaker 2>could have just been beat out once you hit us

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>over the head with stuff.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you make a good point. Also, I wonder

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>if this is that kind of that hard jump from

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>season one being so accessible and everyone like this is great.

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I love how easy it is for me to jump

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.439
<v Speaker 1>in to then trusting your audience enough in season two

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>to not necessarily do the same repeated beat stuff that

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>made it really easy to get into in season one.

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>But I still didn't find this. I think, like if

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody was like just watching a random episode of this

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>with their friends, I still don't think this season is

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>particularly easy to get into. But those repeated beats are

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:28.399
<v Speaker 1>like very very clear. Yeah, it definitely an editorial guy, No, no, no, this.

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it's just the frustration of like, this show is

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be over now it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Six episodes, and also it costs two hundred and fifty

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>million dollars plus.

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, so we gotta get more for our money.

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and also this is you know, this is

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that conversation as well of like is streaming sustainable? Like

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>people love TV shows that are on Netflix, and Netflix

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>are well known for occasionally they'll cancel, you know, a

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>popular show. That's something that's happened and I think that

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>these kind of conversation about budget and production stuff are

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>important because it's part of the context of the industry

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and how and why these shows get made or don't

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>get made.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One more comment, because the two hundred and fifty million

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>figure that is in this Variety article, the exec who

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>is quoted in this article does not confirm that that

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 2>is indeed the number, which leads me to believe that

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:24.720
<v Speaker 2>it's actually higher.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Higher. I did, I got higher. I got that too.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So any closing thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>Aaron Closing thoughts, I, having just rewatched all of season

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 5>one and really getting into it, I'm so happy that

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 5>it's back. When we get new stories after two three

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 5>years whatever it was between the end of season one

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 5>and season two. It's great to see things again, loving

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 5>the outfit changes for everyone, and we're getting advancement of

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:58.439
<v Speaker 5>some of these storylines, albeit slowly. I'm excited to see

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 5>what the final six episodes are. But I do think

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 5>at the end of this I really love the high

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 5>at the end of episode three, but there was a

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 5>little bit of bumpy road to get there.

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Okay. Let me ask you both, what are

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.439
<v Speaker 1>your biggest questions for like the next act, Like going

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>into the next act, what's the thing you most wanted?

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Shield Guy?

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 5>Whose shield Guy?

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 3>What is hurricane?

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know arcane? What is the arcane? That's the

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>biggest question, I think, And also who is shield guy?

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>We need to know, guys.

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 5>I also want to know that I felt like I

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 5>was stupid. I rewatched the scene to make sure when

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 5>Jinx sets off the bombs and we get the colorful

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 5>smoke going into Piltover, I expected it to be the

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:42.439
<v Speaker 5>gray and everyone just kind of kept different going, Yeah,

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 5>there didn't seem to be the gray, And I don't

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 5>know if it was just a warning shot and she's

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 5>gonna you know, like reverse the duct system later, but

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 5>why would you give that away?

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 5>That seemed to be an incredible visual moment that didn't

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 5>have a true story aspect yet I know I was like.

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Is it meant to be Shima or a version of

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Shimmer and then she's gonna get That's.

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 3>What I thought.

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering if it was like I was wondering

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>if it was like flavors of Shimmer, like you know,

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like different Kem Barons factory Shimmer, factories like popping off

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 2>into Yeah, into piltover I. I same as you, Aaron.

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of questions about what comes next

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 2>with that particular plot. Well, that's it for today's episode.

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Coming up on Extra Vision this Thursday, we're breaking down

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the cinematic future of the DC universe. Then next week

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 2>we're you know, gonna rub a little dirt in our

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>hands and cress the wheat as we celebrate sword in

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Sandals weeks starting with a Gladiator rewatch on Monday, two thousands,

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Gladiator Arcane Season two, Act two on that Tuesday, and

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>then Extras returns with our reactions to the first episode

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of Doune Prophecy on HBO.

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<v Speaker 3>Max, and much more.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad of your content.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for this episode, Thanks for listening. X ray

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