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Speaker 1: No, Willian doctor, welcome back. Top of the week. Who

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Speaker 1: is excited you are? You seemed very exciting fresh off

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Speaker 1: the resurrection. You're saying you ge semple was empty when

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Speaker 1: they went back. I mean that's what they said, trying

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Speaker 1: to rob his great but he robbed his own grade. Right.

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Speaker 2: Let me take my stuff and get out again. I

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Speaker 2: know they was coming back.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you paid for Jesus Headstone and then he

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Speaker 1: was alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I want my money. Yeah, I definitely want

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Speaker 2: my bad baby d. What's up?

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Speaker 1: What's up? I see you? You see me?

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Speaker 2: I see you got the marriage shirt on.

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Speaker 1: No. Shout out to.

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Speaker 2: Our listener, shout out to our Twitter community. I remember

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Speaker 2: that night right there, that picture on the bottom left.

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Speaker 2: We together, Yeah, we was together. Yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 2: That's when it winked. Ma, I said, that's when it winked.

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Speaker 2: People don't know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what else would you be talking about

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Speaker 3: other than my asshole.

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Speaker 2: No, it could be plenty of things. It's not as

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Speaker 2: I don't go straight to the butt, baby D. I

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Speaker 2: don't do that. That's not me. That's not who I am.

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Speaker 1: I did think.

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Speaker 2: I think I winked at you with my eyes too,

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Speaker 2: did you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: See that's what I was talking about. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: love you.

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Speaker 1: Said, like when it wins, there's only one of the like.

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Speaker 4: I one, I only when I both eyes. I knew

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Speaker 4: it was slow.

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Speaker 2: It's called tourette.

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Speaker 1: You came here happy today?

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Speaker 2: What You're so happy because it's resurrection Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Right? That was yesterday?

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Speaker 2: He is risen? He yes, yeah, come on now I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I bet I can't. Did

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Speaker 1: he go right to heaven on Monday? I don't know

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Speaker 1: which did he? Never?

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Speaker 2: We never got into that part of the story, like

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Speaker 2: the second time, like I got a resurrection, like, but

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Speaker 2: what happened the second time?

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Speaker 1: How did he? How do we lose him the second time?

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go back to the book. Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: you went to school for this. He was in the church,

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Speaker 2: he was in the Catholic.

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Speaker 1: My mother was my Sunday school. Yeah, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't yeah, don't remember that. I think we were

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Speaker 1: just so happy that he rose and that was it

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Speaker 3: He is sending in to heaven. He will not die

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Speaker 3: again as death no longer rules over him.

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Speaker 1: No, but like how long on Easter Sunday was he chilling.

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Speaker 3: Forty days after he ascended into heaven at forty days

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Speaker 3: after the resturre?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, so Moe could be happy Jesus.

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Speaker 1: You know he's still walking to his first day out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus is king.

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Speaker 1: This is Jesus first day.

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Speaker 2: Yo, f d yo fdo yo yo, this is Jesus.

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Speaker 1: I gonna stop playing with the lord. Yo.

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Speaker 2: I ain't know this was Jesus. You ain't even putting

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Speaker 2: that in no Jesus books. That's the problem there, man.

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Speaker 1: Yo. He won best dress with no support. Yo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been seeing that. It's like a viral, I guess,

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Speaker 2: like real going around with it showing like Jesus's robe

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Speaker 2: walked the earth, like the have his robe, they have

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Speaker 2: his Bible. Have y'all seen that they had like a

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Speaker 1: Was he white? No, he didn't look white. I just

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Speaker 1: I just want to start there because I'm not buying

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Speaker 2: If yeah, he's like he got his robe, his bible.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, that's that's cool. But nobody asked

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Speaker 2: how he got that. Huh, yeah, he can't.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't. He couldn't have a have the Bible. No,

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Speaker 1: that would be like him wearing the crucifix around.

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Speaker 2: His was his first Bible. I'm telling you, look that

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Speaker 2: a bible.

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Speaker 1: The Bible is the stories of the disciples. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: water to wine. Yeah, the Bible was telling everyone that

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Speaker 1: that's not a prostitute, that's a saved one.

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Speaker 2: Decades after they found Jesus to do list called it

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Speaker 2: the Bible. He was just taking notes, that's all.

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Speaker 3: Oh they had They said Jesus had the Old Testament,

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Speaker 3: which was the Hebrew the Hebrew scriptures.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Jesus was Jewish. Oh see, there's no blasphemk

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Speaker 1: That's where we're just we're just trying to get the facts,

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was dope that they have his robe.

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Speaker 2: I never knew that Jesus's robe was like in the

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Speaker 2: museum somewhere. Never knew that Rose said this is his robe.

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Speaker 4: Did you see it? Just Ryan just put the picture.

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Speaker 4: People say a lot of ship.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's if you look at it, it

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Speaker 2: does look like it's pretty old, but like pretty old.

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Speaker 1: Who was in charge of keep it? Like like I

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Speaker 1: have some of my grandfather's clothing because I'm his grandson.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh? Like did the Christ family have it?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 1: The Christ family?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we need to get into, like wh

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Speaker 2: who owns that building that his closes, and like who

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Speaker 2: owns that? We need to get into that stupid.

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Speaker 1: I can assure you they're probably not Christian yet.

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Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's so fast.

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Speaker 1: Before before we're not allowed at wireless. You got so stupid.

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Speaker 1: We are back spots about bootsmore One Limited. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all playing with God.

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Speaker 2: No, what I'm saying this is f d o f

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're happy.

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Speaker 2: I celebrated Easter and Jesus first day. I this our

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Speaker 2: first part out. What I'm saying, who.

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Speaker 3: Shy said, girl, canna put that pussy amy, I'm fresh

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Speaker 2: I think Jesus said that.

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Speaker 1: No, he said, Jesus sign this contract.

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Speaker 2: It just kills me how people are so like like

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Speaker 2: thrown back that shisty pool shiy did that, Like, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: his name is Pool.

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Speaker 3: I saw a tweet that was like, well his name

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Speaker 3: isn't pooh trusts Worthy. That shit had me fucking crying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he shit, he stood. Oh he kept his name real.

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Speaker 3: He said, shit, y'all think it's just raps.

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Speaker 1: He just raps.

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Speaker 2: It's my real name. My mom would named me Clay,

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Speaker 1: We don't pay attention enough to people's nicknames because they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes people live up to their name, like there's

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. Oh he really?

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Speaker 3: Okay, y'all know anybody else with a nickname like that

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Not that I always speak about it on the microphone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, I ain't trying to get nobody indicted.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Dame was on Breakfast Club and he

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Speaker 1: said smoke. Dizzy was trying to introduce him to Murder Mook,

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Speaker 1: and they was like, I didn't particularly want to meet

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Speaker 1: someone named Murder first name, Murder last name. I don't

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Anyways, we are back. How was everyone's Easter? No?

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Speaker 2: It was cool. I mean I was home today I

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Speaker 2: went to the movies and saw the worst, probably the

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Speaker 2: worst movie I've ever seen in my life. What it

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Speaker 2: better not be the drama They will kill you?

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Speaker 1: Oh really, who's day? Bro?

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Speaker 2: This might be the worst movie I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life. I'm not even joined I've heard it. Bro,

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Speaker 2: you don't even want it. First of all, I saw

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Speaker 2: it by accident, because the movie I wanted to see

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Speaker 2: that movie's not playing it right now, and I was

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Speaker 2: like what, So she thought it was too She said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: in the system it says it, but the ticket came

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Speaker 2: up for this movie. So I'm thinking, like, first of all,

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Speaker 2: I never even heard of this movie. But I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to see this, Yeah, not here to

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Speaker 2: though Rory does. I went right to Rotten Tomatoes to

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Speaker 2: see what they gave it, sixty three. I'm okay, not terrible, right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's got the actress that was in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I love her. She's great. Yeah, she's really good. Love

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Speaker 1: full name. Lover. Zaz beatsa name, she's a great actor. Zazzie.

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Speaker 2: That's her name, Zazie beats Zi. Excuse me, Zazzi beats

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Speaker 2: sounds like a producer. Yeah. This was the This was

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Speaker 2: the worst movie I probably ever saw in my.

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Speaker 1: Life because her acting, the or the plot, well I

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Speaker 2: her to do. This movie was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Well, like, what's it about an exclusive high rise building

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Speaker 1: in NYC? She poses as a new maid. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: greeted by the Irish building manager. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Where does that go? This movie is terrible? Okay, sucks

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Speaker 1: all right? Well everyone, I check it out and you're

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Speaker 2: This might be, this might be in the theater for

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Speaker 2: maybe four more days in it'side of here.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know, if not not, they is Irish?

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Speaker 2: Not everybody, you know? It was just like supposed to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's how I spent my Easter.

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Speaker 1: I spent with a family, and then once everyone left

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Speaker 1: release party in the city. Okay, and I mean, of

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Speaker 1: course I love Jozzi. Projects is incredible. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: working on music together. Of course I went because of that,

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Speaker 1: but I also went because Joszi brings him up. They

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Speaker 1: were there. It's Jozzi. You think the usher brings out No, no,

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Speaker 1: Joszi brings him up. It's not us. You think Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown brings him on. And there they're all that like

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Speaker 1: They're only there for joy. So it's how Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: He's all right, Franks doing good. He manages Jossy. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: but no, it was a fun, fun party and went

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Speaker 1: bowling afterwards. Yeah, I was, I was. I was sort

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Speaker 2: My body hurt right now. I went to the gym yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I hear this week I will be in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: You want to LA without me? But that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But like I'm want to go and hang out and

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Speaker 3: Don't want to hang out. Stop you call a cap

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Speaker 1: There's only been two occasions. One was it was Demarus's

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Speaker 2: See yeah we lying, Yeah, I was grant with us.

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Speaker 1: Man. Well either way, if you want to be an

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Speaker 1: talking directly to Ryan. If you give people enough time,

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Speaker 2: Me come alone. He's a baby.

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Speaker 1: Oh man? But yes, uh listeners, we would love to

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Speaker 1: Uh? I guess second, Well, it comes out probably like

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Speaker 2: First of all, no, I'm not shouting not Aristotle.

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 1: Care about your little USIC video ship that you got called.

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Speaker 2: By kids about that whit kids about that we're shooting.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we love Earl the show. That's Shamley

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Speaker 2: right there. We love Earl, like Mike put me onto

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Speaker 2: It was literally like Alchemists and Hop.

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Speaker 4: Belly that week, but we put that one out first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's what I remember. Belly being. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Earl Man first week in my life.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this hot ninety seven freestyle.

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Speaker 2: Who a Merrow? We roomed for you? We love you

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Speaker 2: here you know that? But this, this was this was

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Speaker 1: He knew it was baddie. Yeah, like sarcastically growling, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like the groundse yo, this was like, this was bad.

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Speaker 1: Earl was like, yo, I put twenty sixty on the spaceship.

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Speaker 1: Mike came with something written and shout out to them

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Speaker 1: and I fuck with Mike. He's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: newer rappers. But this, I don't know, Maybe just save

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody don't got to Everybody don't got to go

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Speaker 1: You ain't got to do that.

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Speaker 2: Like you could just put the project out and let

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Speaker 2: it be some joints in there and let people catch it, like,

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Speaker 2: oh nah, this this project is dope. If you're gonna

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Speaker 2: there and really like put on. You can't go up

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Speaker 2: and know what you're about to say, like not riding

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Speaker 2: the You're not supposed to do that. This is how

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Speaker 2: ninety seven Like this is this is the radio station.

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Speaker 2: This is number one for hip hop in New York

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Speaker 2: all I'm saying, Like I get it, but come on, man,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was having fun laughs, But you still

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Speaker 1: I feel like.

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Speaker 3: People don't in this climate, people don't take rap as

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Speaker 3: That would have been like the worst thing in the

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Speaker 1: I think people expected like, shoutut to Trinidad James, fuck

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Speaker 1: Like they both rapped really well, and this was my

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Speaker 1: Maybe it just doesn't mean much to their age group,

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Speaker 1: I've seen Earl do like parody freestyles a Hot ninety

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Speaker 1: Maybe these kids just don't want to rap on the radio.

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Speaker 2: So why are you at the radio to promote?

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Speaker 1: Okay? I would have just been like, Yo, I'm okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't I just put out a double disk. I

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Speaker 1: bevinch you want to rap? He's like, bride, give you

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Speaker 1: thirty two songs. I don't want to rap anymore.

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Speaker 2: to talk about. But when they say put a beat

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Speaker 2: that hurts more than anything. That's like people don't look

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Speaker 2: at that, like yo, what is this ship?

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Speaker 1: Knowing them too, I'm sure they're not watching this, but

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Speaker 2: I think Mike kids though, I think like he wants

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Speaker 1: A I think people viewed Mike as one of the

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Speaker 1: does the style of the kind of I'm I don't

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00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: want use the word lazy, but it's probably the best

438
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 1: way to approach the style, lazy a little bit out

439
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 1: of the pocket wrap. I understand when people don't like

440
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 1: that type of stuff and they're going to try to

441
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 1: convince people too. I like it, but it doesn't translate

442
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 1: to a freestyle. You can't have that style on a freestyle.

443
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 1: So I just wouldn't do it. Did you have an album? Yeah,

444
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,400
Speaker 1: it's great. Is there any better than that? Every song

445
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 1: is better than that?

446
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but that's what I'm saying. See that

447
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 2: if you see that and don't didn't hear the album,

448
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 2: you'd be like they doing this, Oh I would never

449
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 2: You wouldn't even click on the album, never see this

450
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: is That's why I'm saying that sh it hurts more

451
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 2: than anything. So yeah, I don't know, man, I was

452
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 2: hearing that shit was a little like, I don't know, man,

453
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 2: So where.

454
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 1: Do we rank this against Trinidad? James o'melly yo, always

455
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: find a way to bring up the old men style.

456
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,239
Speaker 1: You always find a way. That was that's a bar

457
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,719
Speaker 1: in it. But he's not.

458
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 2: He was trying to. He ain't really. He had just

459
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: seen what I'm saying, like came up with that though,

460
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: So you don't understand that was freestyling.

461
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at them. I was looking at

462
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: sway the whole time. A real hip hop Yeah, was

463
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: like okay, okay, do you.

464
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 3: Ever seen somebody trying to catch the pocket like they're

465
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 3: trying to rocking but they can't catch it?

466
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time.

467
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,479
Speaker 3: You know, I mean like the people listening, Like when

468
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 3: the people listening is trying to like catch your flow

469
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 3: and it's like you.

470
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: All they're doing jay Z mean like I want to

471
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 2: like it and I'm trying to help you. I'm the metronome.

472
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep you like look at me, I'm

473
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 2: keeping you on beat. But it's not happening. It's not

474
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 2: working out.

475
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Maybe it brought more attention to

476
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: their album.

477
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: I was about to say that this probly this would

478
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 2: go viral before like really spitting.

479
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: Bars with Yeah, I'm sure them just talking with Meryl

480
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 1: would not go viral the way. But both of them

481
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: are also like quiet guys that it's got to be

482
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: tough when you're you're an artist like that in this

483
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: day and age where you it's so important to promote

484
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: and be a personality and be so forward facing. Earl

485
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 1: don't even like talking to people in the studio like

486
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 1: period because they probably feel like everyone around them, whether

487
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: it be their independent label, their managers, their business partners, producers, Yo,

488
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: you gotta go out and promote the shop. I think

489
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 1: the days of being this mystique artist of just here's

490
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: the album and then I disappeared is gone, like get

491
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 1: Like Gibbs, it would fall under the category of great

492
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: rappers Like these guys. His online personality like sometimes supersedes

493
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 1: his his streams. He's he's a character, he's funny, like,

494
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: he has an online presence. So when he goes out

495
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: to promote, people watch just because they know Gibbs is

496
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: super entertaining too. If I watch a Gibbs interview, I

497
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: know I'm want to laugh Okay, now these I'm not

498
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: expecting people to try to be someone they're not, but

499
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: it's got to be tough in twenty twenty six when

500
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: your actual personality is not one of like Freddy Gibbs,

501
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: where you're outgoing, you're social, like now, I just want

502
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: to fucking make my wraps and go home, but you

503
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: can't do anymore.

504
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 2: I think people need to find out too. Artists need

505
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: to find a new way to promote. I think like

506
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: some artists don't ever need to go to the radio stations. No, seriously,

507
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: like I think that does that does more bad for

508
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: them than good.

509
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: For some Yeah, I mean Shamien seeen with with certain

510
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: rappers getting with streamers because streamers are younger, of a

511
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: different type of personality, and then you put them next

512
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: to a rapper that's not. Also with streamers, it's awkward,

513
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: it's weird, it's very weird.

514
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: But unless you're like a soup, like unless you're big,

515
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 3: I don't want to say megastar big, but like a

516
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 3: little under that, I don't understand how it can be

517
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: bad for you because like, okay, yes they just tanked

518
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: that fucking freestyle, but we're talking about it now because

519
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 3: we're talking about it. Plenty of people might not even

520
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 3: know that those two people had a project or one

521
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: of them had a project, and now they're going to

522
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 3: go check it out or not check it out, Like

523
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: it's there's no such thing as bad press technically anymore.

524
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Shit, Yes and no. The thing all right now with press,

525
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: there is no such thing as bad press. But press

526
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: is no longer as effective as it used to be

527
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: because the algorithm switch so quickly. You could have a

528
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: huge moment, it's not going to translate to streams. There's

529
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: going to move on to the next moment. So like

530
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: effective press is really what's missing because Irid America, they

531
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: would have not gone viral if this wasn't a freestyle.

532
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if this means people are now going

533
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: to go search for their album but their name is

534
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: an the algorithm Is that.

535
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: Important to some people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying when

536
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: I say there's no such thing as bad press. There's

537
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: a such thing as bad press, uneffective press, uneffective press.

538
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: However you want to slice it now, like to what

539
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: you're saying, Does that mean that somebody's gonna go and

540
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: search the album because they see this and they're like,

541
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: this was terrible. Let me go see with their album

542
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: sounds Like, I don't think that that's how that works. No,

543
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: I think people will see that and be like, the

544
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: next time I see their name.

545
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm never clicking that again. Yeah, that could be give.

546
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: There's a such thing as bad pressed, Like people will

547
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: see this, but then next time they see their name

548
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: attire like, nah, I'm not listening to that.

549
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: But some people view just your name being in the

550
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: algorithm that day as a win when it comes to press.

551
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 2: No, I get it, which I disagree with. I disagree

552
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: with that wholehearted because that's so short lived. It's like

553
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: an algorithm for what, like because people hate what you

554
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: just did, Like you think that's a win for some people. Yes,

555
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: that's fucking crazy. I think that's crazy, And I think

556
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: that's part of the problem. Like people care more about

557
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: that than actually doing some fly fly shit or you know,

558
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: killing a freestyle and this that and and having a

559
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: dope project. They just want people to be talking about

560
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: them like I'm at the top of the algorithm, Like, Okay,

561
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: what is that? What is that doing for you?

562
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: Though? I mean, there are some people that legitimately are

563
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: in the algorithm consistently because people hate them. That's their

564
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: their stick is just for the Internet to kill them constantly.

565
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Some people know how to utilize that to dollar value

566
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: and some just keep chasing being in a headline that

567
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: does nothing for you. Yeah, do you want the press?

568
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: If you want the sound scan? Which which one? Yeah,

569
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: you can have, you can have both. It's just rare

570
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: these days because everyone's doing ship that's not going to stick.

571
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get in the out room. There's

572
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: trying their best to get there, but you don't know

573
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: what they're pulling from it. Like even press runs that

574
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: I've seen with our ship. When I did mine, I

575
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: picked I picked outlets that I thought were going to

576
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: be effective, rather than just going to do a bunch

577
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: of them, because then you're just wasting your time. What

578
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: is going Why is this interview going to matter to

579
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: anyone that one is a fan first or new eyes? Yeah?

580
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: As hard as a consumer these days, as hard as

581
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: a consumer, well not because meaning like there's so much

582
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: out there to consume. You almost have to like say,

583
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: if through so much shit to find like good good

584
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: shit to consume. Yeah, yeah, like even with music coming

585
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: out every week, like every weekend there's music coming out.

586
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: It's like, how can you listen to all of this?

587
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: How can you listen to everybody that drops? Like sometimes

588
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: artists that we love dropping we don't even know. We like,

589
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: what the fuck? I didn't even know they put something

590
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: out because we're so stuck on catching up to what

591
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: already came out, or listening to an album that we

592
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: absolutely love and like we're still playing that, and then

593
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: every week comes by and it's more and more shit

594
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: being put out. It's like people got interviews every week

595
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: on the multiple platforms drop and it's like how much

596
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: shit can we as consumers consume?

597
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just doing interviews what I feel for artists,

598
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: back to our original point, just doing interviews to do

599
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: them is fucking pointless. I'm not saying you got to

600
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: chase a moment or try to make a viral clip,

601
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: but just doing an interview and the ether that is

602
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: the internet right now is pointless. Like if you don't

603
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: have personality and you go to every single stop and

604
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: there's just nothing there, ye like, yeah, got that feature. Yeah,

605
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: it's just cool. I got to work with this producer.

606
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Oh my top five rappers I'll give you my top

607
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: five of all time, Like what you just wasted a

608
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: whole trip to New York City.

609
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why.

610
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: We turned out so many people's interviews like what I'm doing.

611
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Both of us are service by saying no, yeah, that's what.

612
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: What are we going to talk? What are we going

613
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: to talk about?

614
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: To the thing that Abro was saying about how booking

615
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, guests was tough, I understand what he was saying,

616
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like, I'm pretty sure

617
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: they get people's names that comes across their emails, and

618
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure they turn people down. I'm sure they do

619
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: because you you have to be like, yo, right, what

620
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: is what are we gonna talk about that you haven't

621
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: already talked about? Like that's why taking people in there

622
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: on the press runners tough. M The artist is worn out,

623
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: they're tired of talking. They've been asked the same questions

624
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: Like it's like, as a consumer, how much of this

625
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: ship can you really sit back and continue to consume?

626
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: But also like bookers and producers, sometimes I think a

627
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: lot of their mentality is just to book and not

628
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: book the right people or understand the show that they're

629
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah, like I promise. This isn't like out

630
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: of resentment, It's just an observation. When I did Hot

631
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven for my album, they cut my interview short,

632
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: so some like some TikTok vine person that was having

633
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: a moment was in the studio, they cut mine short.

634
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: I went back the next week to look at the views.

635
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: I had seventy thousand views and they had like four

636
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: hundred views on that interview Hot nine seven. I was like,

637
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: y'all just don't understand the Hot ninety seven audience or

638
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: even Ebro show. It wasn't Ebro Laura or Peter that

639
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: cut it short, it was whatever. P program director was like, no, no,

640
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: we have this. This guy's biral And I was like,

641
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: do you not understand the show that you're producing? Do

642
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: not understand YouTube? Like this conversation is way more valuable

643
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: than that the person I don't even remember his fucking.

644
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: Name, But did you go back and look at how

645
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: many views you got? He might have took off like

646
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: the next week, and sh it might have took off.

647
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: You don't think I haven't still been checking it to

648
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: this day. I forgot it, like I check it to

649
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: this day. You just checked it last night did you storm.

650
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: Out of there when they did that, because I know

651
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: how you get.

652
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: No, I was we were having a really good conversation too.

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Speaker 1: I think it was about summer jam relocating. We were

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Speaker 1: having like a conversation that podcasters and YouTube people cared

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Speaker 1: about that they weren't having with anyone else. And I

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Speaker 1: just remember being like irritated. Yeah, like, oh, I would

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Speaker 1: have came, Like I would have came earlier if that

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Speaker 1: email the program director the way the publicist or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So like I get it. Maybe they didn't tell them

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Speaker 1: that was stupid. No, you was walking around the green room.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know in his phone?

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Speaker 2: Shit, Oh you just left you stormed out?

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Speaker 1: No, they we got to wrap it up.

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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, Rory ain't never leave like that. You

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Speaker 2: moment he got away from that, he grabbed you got

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Speaker 2: you had to leave.

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Speaker 1: They said, yeah, we have to wrap up like someone's

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Speaker 1: that day. Nah and me and you only just walked

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Speaker 1: to the studio. Okay, just walk from Hot ninety seven

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Speaker 1: in here, all right, Well listen, I'm not mad. Their

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Speaker 1: views were mad.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not get it. I just don't believe

681
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Speaker 2: you just got him and walked out and was like.

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Speaker 1: What was I supposed to do? You got it?

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Speaker 3: You definitely text somebody like and they just cut my

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Speaker 3: fucking sure. I'll show them.

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Speaker 2: I'll show them.

686
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Speaker 1: I let the views speak to themselves.

687
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Speaker 2: I'll show them. Wait till next week.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, and you did so major money bag

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Speaker 3: recol next week about looking forward.

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Speaker 2: Recool, Rory recool, Yo. They don't they don't know. They

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Speaker 2: got to call you recoop. That's a flex though, niggas artist, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all just push it out. A lot of niggas don't recoop. Yeah,

693
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Speaker 2: recoop though.

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Speaker 4: They can still be paying for that chain. And they

695
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Speaker 4: talk about three albums later. Now pull up your royalty statements.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 1: I like that, that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's what that's what it Recoop looks like Poppy your

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Speaker 4: ship ship because they swear you.

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Speaker 3: oh ship, I don't think I said that. I don't

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Speaker 3: think I said that's how you know you said, I

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Speaker 3: don't think I said that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. No, what's what's that same? Mam? Not everyone?

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Speaker 1: Not your artist tone? App? What's that same? Right there?

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Speaker 1: Does that say? Uh? That says recooped one hundred percent? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: roryan Mall. Did you guys see that at the Symber

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Speaker 1: know why I'm pissed off today.

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Speaker 5: I seen Kanye West in a motherfucking stadium last night

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Speaker 5: with about seventy thousand people, and they talking about he

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Speaker 5: on pace to do one hundred thousand copies first week.

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Speaker 1: The fuck you mean?

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Speaker 5: It was just seventy thousand people in LA, and they

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Speaker 5: talk about he on pace to do one hundred thousand

766
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Speaker 5: first week.

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Speaker 1: Nigga, you telling me to seventy.

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Speaker 5: Thousand people ain't listening to that album more than once,

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Speaker 5: play the song more than once. Some may write about

770
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Speaker 5: how these streams is getting calculated, and we got to

771
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Speaker 5: figure out what the fuck that is. Something is not right,

772
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Speaker 5: something is not the fuck right. How is it a

773
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Speaker 5: nigga could get seventy thousand fucking people in a stadium,

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Speaker 5: but he's on course to do one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: Streams the first week?

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Speaker 5: How are they even counting these motherfucking streams because everybody's

777
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Speaker 5: streams is different. The bigger artist, the bigger the artist

778
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Speaker 5: you are, the more your payout is, you get more money.

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Speaker 1: He makes a good point.

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Speaker 2: No, first of all, No, he makes a good point.

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Speaker 2: But what he's forgetting is it was two shows with

782
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: eighty thousand people, So that's one hundred and sixty thousand people.

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Speaker 1: Add in Mexico City, add in Mexico City that he

784
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: did before LA. So yeah, I mean, and then we

785
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Speaker 1: all see people that get a billion streams. Well, probably

786
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Speaker 1: couldn't pack out sobs exactly couldn't sell shirt. So I

787
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Speaker 1: feel him that it's odd because there's no way that

788
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: the eighty thousand people that went there, not ninety percent

789
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: of them didn't listen to Bully on the way to

790
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Speaker 1: the show.

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00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: Like, listen to it on the way, listen to when

792
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: they left today, listen to it like yeah, something I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I get I get that if I don't know

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Speaker 1: if like Bruce Springsteen drops the album today, he could

795
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Speaker 1: still do MetLife even if his older crowd loves his

796
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: back catalog. Feel so I get that, But he has

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Speaker 1: a point of that ratio of seventy thousand people, there's

798
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Speaker 1: no way a majority of them did not listen to

799
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Speaker 1: that album multiple times.

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Speaker 2: No, this is this is one of the biggest artists

801
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: in the world. Like that's that doesn't make what Simba's

802
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: saying is right. That can't that can't be correct because.

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Speaker 1: There's times with huge artists, especially if they've gone independent

804
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: or don't have singles. Yeah, to the average fans, sometimes

805
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: they miss when even big artists put out projects. But

806
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: seventy thousand people bought a hard ticket the week of

807
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Speaker 1: you knew Kanye Westie album you listen to it?

808
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the autist that has the artist that has over

809
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: a million people sitting in the queue to get some

810
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: tickets to a show, and then that's the same artist

811
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Speaker 2: we talk about is on pace to do one hundred thousand.

812
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Speaker 1: I agree with.

813
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Speaker 2: Something ain't right, Like something is something is off here,

814
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: like something is a little Just explain it to me,

815
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: like just I'm not saying that. You know, the labels

816
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Speaker 2: are doing some funny shit the streaming service, but somebody

817
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: has to explain how I can have over a million

818
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Speaker 2: people in the queue waiting to get tickets to a concert,

819
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Speaker 2: but I'm on pace to do one hundred thousand in

820
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Speaker 2: the first.

821
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Speaker 1: There could be a very logical explanation. It could be

822
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Speaker 1: I'm just with you. What symbol brings up? I think

823
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: is they they got to explain it. Devil's advocate.

824
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Speaker 3: Do y'all think that, Remember we had the conversation about

825
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Speaker 3: Stephen Lacey and people who buy bought tickets just because

826
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: they like one song. Do you think that there is

827
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Speaker 3: a possibility that a lot of the people buying tickets

828
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Speaker 3: to these shows are young Kanye hype beasts fans.

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Speaker 2: When they showed the audience, it was nothing but white

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Speaker 2: Mexican Asian kids, that I saw in the audience, but

831
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Speaker 2: young young kids.

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Speaker 1: Too, but young hype beasts Kanye fans that wait outside

833
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Store right now have Bully playing in their

834
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Speaker 1: air pods right now. Okay, Like I hear you on

835
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Speaker 1: the Steve Lacy thing, But I think it's a wrong

836
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: comparison because that obviously drastically different catalogs and fan bases

837
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Speaker 1: and how long they've been around. But that was because

838
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Speaker 1: TikTok kids liked that song and wanted to go see him.

839
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Speaker 1: The young Kanye stands are every sense of the word there,

840
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Speaker 1: Like they listen to the music. Yeah, And that matches up.

841
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: Like when Nicky does crazy numbers after she's disappeared, it

842
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Speaker 1: matches up because then she goes on to sell out

843
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: an entire arena. Like it makes sense Nicki's numbers. This

844
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Speaker 1: is what she does with hard tickets. You could forget

845
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the online shit and the bars whatever. Real people show

846
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Speaker 1: up to buy real tickets and stream her project. One

847
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. For Kanye West after he's doing these shows,

848
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm someone explaining to me, that's all. I don't get it.

849
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if he's on pace to do one hundred

850
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Speaker 2: thousand and had over a million people sitting in the queue, Like, bro,

851
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: what's up? The numbers ain't that far apart? Like that's

852
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: that's not even possible. Yeah, I feel like.

853
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Speaker 3: There's some people who would go see Kanye West, maybe

854
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: for a back catalog, like you said with Bruce Begstein,

855
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: who might not be bumping.

856
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you that there's definitely people that probably

857
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: went to that show and hadn't heard Bully yet. But

858
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: when you add up the Mexico City show both those shows,

859
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: like and didn't add those percentages, still are not know that?

860
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: And then added the people that didn't go to the

861
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: shows that listen to the album, Like how will.

862
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: We that you can't be that set's listen to Bully

863
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: and went to the show. I didn't a show and

864
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: I've listened to Billion multiple times. Yeah, Like that's some shit.

865
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Speaker 1: People I hadn't they didn't go to the show at all.

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Speaker 2: Never you've thought about going to the show that listened

867
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: to the album, Like fact that those people into and how.

868
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: Many times do you have to listen to an album

869
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: all the way through for it to countlets of sale?

870
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: This is what we I mean, this is what we're

871
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: trying to uncover who knows at this point, this is

872
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: what we trying to uncover, like they have to they

873
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 2: tell you the rules, but there's no way of tracking.

874
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: It exactly, like, how do you? How do you?

875
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: How do we know that?

876
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: That's exactly how they're calculating this because it's fifteen hundred

877
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: streams is one sale?

878
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen hundred streams. That's insane though.

879
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: That's why with that artist not really like I really

880
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: go to iTunes. Fifteen hundred streams is equivalent to one sale? Yeah?

881
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's coming up with this math? How is that?

882
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: The like?

883
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 2: How is that? How did they land on fifteen hundred streams?

884
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta go to Sweden and ask. I

885
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: don't know.

886
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm also seeing seventy five is seventy Who knows?

887
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: No one knows one hundred and fifty streams of a

888
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: single song equals one track download.

889
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: So that is crazy.

890
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: So I'd like when I put out a record, I

891
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: bought it on iTunes off road, Freddie gives MI, se

892
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: go out, now, I bought it. If I didn't pay

893
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: that dollar, I would have to stream in one hundred

894
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: and fifty times for that to count as as one domb.

895
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

896
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: So I mean.

897
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're doing that math, then technically, Kanye,

898
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: it was over a million.

899
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sure if you listen to a ten song

900
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: album all the way through one hundred and fifty times,

901
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: that generates fifteen hundred streams and counts oneself.

902
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 3: That's fucking insane. Yeah, I'm gonna just buy my friends. Well,

903
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: I bought your album, but.

904
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I wonder why I was proud of my twelve thousand units.

905
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, if you listen to a ten song

906
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: album all the way through one hundred and fifty times,

907
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: I've never listened to a ten song album all the

908
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: way through a hundred and fifty times.

909
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: You've I mean you definitely you have a reasoned down

910
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty times, but it took years.

911
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: He definitely played Drinking Party next door all one hundred

912
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: and fifty times all the way through.

913
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Hell, no, you crazy?

914
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: I shured your wrap up. It was at the top,

915
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

916
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: But that don't mean I listened to it one hundred

917
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: and fifty times the marriage? Are you crazy? Never listened

918
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: to no album one hundred and fifty times from from

919
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: top to bottom? No like Rory said, it may be

920
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: albums that came out thirty years ago that I'm just

921
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: getting to like eighty times.

922
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I listened to it all the way through, but House Spotify,

923
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: and trust me, I'm not defending them there. This math

924
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: is based off everyone on the app, not one single person.

925
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: They're saying fifteen hundred stream like, you don't have to

926
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: sit there and do it one hundred and fifty times,

927
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: because I mean that would be sir. It's still the

928
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: math is still insane, though they're basing it off to

929
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: everyone on the app at one time, and pretty much

930
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: the amount of time you spend on it. Oh yeah,

931
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. I don't want to tell you. Sorry,

932
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: artists were fucked.

933
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, goddamn, good luck man, podcast, good luck man.

934
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: You never got that that green startle. But it's the

935
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: same thing.

936
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: I was having a conversation with Pege as far as podcasting,

937
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: and if you're on a podcast label or if you

938
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: have a deal, they pay attention to downloads, and it's like,

939
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: who the fuck downloads a podcast? Like, unless you have

940
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: automatic downloads turned on, you don't download a podcast.

941
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: You go and you stream and listen to the podcast. Yeah,

942
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: don't hold me to the same standards you hold Kanye too, right,

943
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: or cut me the same Kanye check. Y'all gonna do that? Yeah,

944
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: cut me the same Kanye Check.

945
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Maul and I. I can't speak for

946
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: other podcasts because I really don't know what their licensing

947
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: deals are, but from my understanding, well, I think you

948
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: and I have the only ones that have fought for

949
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: that that age old, fucking dinosaur mentality of downloads and

950
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: CPMs for advertisers in a licensing deal. This amount of

951
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: money based off the amount of downloads of a podcast

952
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: is like ancient history and people are still going by

953
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: those rules. Yeah. We just recently changed our licensing deal

954
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: to fight against like no, it has to go off

955
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: streams like views? This is stupid. Yeah, who is downloading

956
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: these and why is that the basis now? Now it's

957
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: just like you're trying to put us in a shitty

958
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: licensing deal to fuck us over because you know nobody's

959
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: downloading that shit.

960
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

961
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: Know majority podcasters that have licensing deals and do advertising

962
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: are still stuck in that shit. We had to fight

963
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: to have that.

964
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm happy that y'all did fight because I remember I

965
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: was like me and I was talking, I was like,

966
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: how what doubt how many download You're craziest. That's insane,

967
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: that's such a cheat. I'm like, y'all are cheating like people,

968
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: and people are allowing you to cheat them.

969
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: This is fucking crazy. And for those that I guess

970
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: don't understand because we're talking more like nerdy podcast stuff.

971
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: For exam, if you have a licensing deal and there's

972
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: a minimal guarantee of money that comes in and if

973
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: you surpass it, then you start splitting up more profit.

974
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: But to keep that minimal guarantee, you have to hit

975
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: a certain amount of downloads, which is what they you know,

976
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: obviously pitched to advertisers and that's how you get your CPM.

977
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: But they're doing it based off how many people download

978
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: your podcast, not your views on YouTube. So they're underselling

979
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: your show and they're understanding the advertisers, in my opinion

980
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: as well, of the value of what an ad could

981
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: be on your YouTube page or your Netflix page or

982
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: your audio like downloads. Yeah, you're hustling backwards. Why would

983
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: you even tell it advertiser or download number? Look at

984
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: my YouTube views. Yeah, it's insane. But anyways, we want

985
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: on a tangent there. Chloe Bailey was at the show.

986
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: I was furious the YA show.

987
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: Why would you be furious about that?

988
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: She's signed to be I don't care, I'm really but

989
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: they were killing her online a weekend. They kept showing

990
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: her the tweet of the terrible things Kanye said about

991
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: their children, and I honestly like, I don't think. I mean,

992
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: I guess I get it because Chloe Bailey is a

993
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: grown woman can do what the fuck she wants. I

994
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: did see some of the beehives stance on it, though,

995
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 1: I do understand why people will be like, well, that's weird.

996
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: I get but she might not even know that that

997
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: was said. We're not doing that, Okay, No, let me

998
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: hear me, hear me, hear me.

999
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

1000
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: We are way deeper in the Internet than people who

1001
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: are celebrities. Granted, people who are celebrities are they are

1002
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: on the Internet, but we because it's our job to

1003
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: know shit like that.

1004
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: That's why we know shit like that.

1005
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: When I talk to my friends who just have normal jobs,

1006
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: their nurses, doctors, they don't know that Kanye has said

1007
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 3: shit like that.

1008
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: That's an Internet thing, Okay, Chloe Bailey is in the industry,

1009
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: she signed, she's under Beyonce. What does that mean. That

1010
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: doesn't mean. I don't think that she knows what Kanye

1011
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: West said about Beyonce's kids.

1012
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: I think it's a possibility that she may not have,

1013
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: But I think it's a possibility she may not actually knows.

1014
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the beyond.

1015
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: No, No, here's what it is. People don't care. People don't care.

1016
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: That's just the bottom line. And I said all the time,

1017
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: people don't give a fuck. People be fake acting like

1018
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: they care about this, and they so morally. You know this,

1019
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: People don't give a fuck. They don't like this. You'll

1020
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: say something as crazy as Kanye that eighty thousand people

1021
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. They don't people don't care. Like

1022
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: but for Chloe to be there, it looks away because

1023
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: it's like, yo, you're you're signing like Beyonce is like

1024
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: gave you a platform, like she gave you a look

1025
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 2: like this is the biggest artist of her generation, basically

1026
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: putting you under her wing, you and your sister under

1027
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: her wing. Yeah, you're not supposed to be at this show.

1028
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: I agree, all right, I'll probably laugh at me, but

1029
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: how do we know they didn't have a conversation who

1030
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: Chloe and Beyonce.

1031
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: About going to the show.

1032
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, no, because you don't ask that. You asked

1033
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: for forgiveness for that. You don't ask for permission.

1034
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: You ain't. She ain't.

1035
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: They didn't. Chloe didn't have no toy. Hey, hey, b yes,

1036
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: so I have yay tickets to the so far.

1037
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm not understand if that conversation even goes all right,

1038
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: I hear, I don't mean that type of conversation. Maybe

1039
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: they've had that conversation about Kanye's tweets and Beyonce was

1040
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: vocal that she personally did not care. I don't know

1041
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: if there's a world where that happens. But they could

1042
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: have already had that Kanye conversation. Chloe may have been

1043
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: in the studio with Kanye's like, there could have been

1044
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: a combo already that Chloe knew Beyonce wouldn't feel any

1045
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: type of way of her going pross like we are business.

1046
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: Just because you're right, Maybe maybe that didn't happen. No, no, no,

1047
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: you're right. Maybe maybe that did happen. I can't rule

1048
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: that out right, Maybe that did happen. I'm on the

1049
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: side of that's too much to be having to go

1050
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: to a concert. I shouldn't have to have a conversation

1051
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: if I feel like I got to do all of that,

1052
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: I'm just not going.

1053
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: It's not I agree with that.

1054
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about your rory. You know what I'm saying.

1055
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: I got I got passes to the Soul far yo. Like,

1056
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: but you know you my man, right, you know I'm

1057
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: just going because I'm gonna just go to the show

1058
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: and I'm just not going, like it's not that serious

1059
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, I'm not support I'm not supporting that.

1060
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: Like you, my man, I'm not supporting anybody that said

1061
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: what they said about your kids. I'm never supporting that

1062
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: person again. I'm not going to their show, Like for what,

1063
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: just so I could take pictures and videos of me

1064
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: being at the show.

1065
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: Would you go to a Kanye West show? Me?

1066
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: No?

1067
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Okay if you have a relationship with the other party,

1068
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: is no, because those are his children. No.

1069
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I would never go to a Kanye show again in

1070
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 2: my life.

1071
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: Never.

1072
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't even I'm just

1073
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: a fan and I wasn't even running to the album.

1074
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: Like I ain't really Kanye is talented, one of the

1075
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: greatest artists we've ever had, one of the greatest producers

1076
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: we've ever had, without a doubt. But I can't support

1077
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 2: somebody that said that about Jay and B's kids.

1078
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: I can't know.

1079
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: Hell no, there's no way, there's no away I cannot

1080
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: go to the concert.

1081
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: And do what.

1082
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm here like, I'm just no, I'm not doing that, bro,

1083
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: Like that's that's that was absolutely like too far. And

1084
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: I get that people do things and make mistakes. I

1085
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: understand all of that, but sometimes it's certain things to me,

1086
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: to me personally that I'm just like, it's like, nah,

1087
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't have to go to that show, gotcha, Like

1088
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't.

1089
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to do that. So it's Pepsi Diago

1090
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: and more.

1091
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not pulling out of wireless, like I'm not.

1092
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: I was never going to wireless, so I'm not pulling

1093
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: out of wireless, so you can't put me with Pepsi.

1094
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: And because I wasn't, that was never going to wireless,

1095
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: so I didn't pull out a wireless Pepsio however, and

1096
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: the Agio and PayPal.

1097
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: Before we get to that. I understand your your stance

1098
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: with your long relationship with the Carters and your family

1099
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: and not what is support thing? Because I hear you

1100
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: are not going to the show, Does that mean you

1101
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: don't listen to Kanye? I mean you did buy the

1102
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Hitler boots. I don't know if that was before that

1103
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: was before that was before that was before you got

1104
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: the Hitler the Hitler boots before.

1105
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: Before before Yeah, yeah, the Hitler boots was cool before

1106
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: he said before he said what he said. Yeah, no,

1107
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: but that was before that was before that, That was

1108
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: before that rant.

1109
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Okay, because I mean, yes it was. It was insane

1110
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: what he said about their kids. But yeah, has also

1111
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: said insane things before and after that too. I'm just

1112
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: trying to IM trying to like, everyone has their own

1113
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: personal line and it moves, and everyone moves the goal

1114
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: post for himselves. Sometimes I'm a hypocrite when it comes

1115
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: to supporting and not supporting artists sometimes as well. I'm

1116
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: just trying to get the gauge of what the rules

1117
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: really are for each person.

1118
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, when people cared about politics and their

1119
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: views on religion, that's cool. When you start talking about

1120
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 2: somebody's children things like that, nah, bro, I mean.

1121
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: I came in here and said I'm fucking done with

1122
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Kanye when he was doing the Free Diddy ship, and

1123
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: I was like, you got daughters, Like I came in

1124
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: here and did that, and then I also came in

1125
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: here and said, Yo, Bully was incredible. I'm a hypocrite

1126
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: as well when it comes to this type of stuff,

1127
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't think all fans and listeners will just

1128
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: we can all admit where we pick and choose, and

1129
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: we're hypocrites. Sometimes we go against the ship that we

1130
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: just said. That's just how it works with music in

1131
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: my fae.

1132
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: But certain shit, I'm just not supporting.

1133
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1134
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: You can shoot in the air all you want, but

1135
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: when you start putting names on them bullets and the

1136
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: names having to be children's names, No, not because Kaya

1137
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: A lot of what Kanye has said has been generalizations

1138
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: of groups of people or religions or generally. You're not

1139
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: picking on anybody, and you're not picking on one person.

1140
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: You put a name on that bullet.

1141
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: Nah, this is the same. This is the same guy

1142
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: who was mad at everybody and cursing everybody else, saying

1143
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: y'all wouldn't help me get my kids back. How are

1144
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 2: we supposed to do that, and then you go around

1145
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 2: and you talk about somebody's kids the way he did,

1146
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: Like and I get it, y'all gonna say, you know,

1147
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: mental health and that. I understand all of that, but

1148
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 2: at some point it's like, all right, bro, your mental

1149
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: health is amazing when it come to put on the show.

1150
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: It's so far though, you mentally show up as a

1151
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: motherfucker when they come to that.

1152
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Cameron was one of the first people

1153
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: to say it. Kanye is not crazy. He's convenient. Yes,

1154
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: is Kanye probably definitely have diagnosed mental health issues for sure,

1155
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: but he does kind of pick and choice when to

1156
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: use it when not to That's what I'm saying. So

1157
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: it's like a buffet of mental illness.

1158
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: We understand he's a great artist and a great producer

1159
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: and all of that. Were not taking that away from him,

1160
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: but it is a choice. When you decide to purchase

1161
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: a ticket and go to a show and things like that,

1162
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: that's it. You're putting a lot of effort into supporting

1163
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: that artist at that point.

1164
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it was obviously was

1165
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: in LA I'm trying to think if it was in

1166
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: New York, I probably wouldn't go to the show, but

1167
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would be on any moral reason.

1168
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually actually don't like have it.

1169
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would go to a Kanye

1170
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: show or not have it, like actually thought about it.

1171
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: Why not?

1172
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean outside of the moral reason, I would love

1173
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: to go to a Kanye show, so actively go to Kanye. No,

1174
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 3: I wouldn't, but it's because of moral reasons. So if

1175
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: he's taking a moral reasoning out of it, I.

1176
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Would like to sound like a great person like I

1177
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't go because of moral reasons. I just don't know,

1178
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: Like I haven't really sat in thought.

1179
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: He's one of your favorite artists all the time. I

1180
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 3: don't understand why you wouldn't want to go to his show.

1181
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: I've seen him live, that's I mean, that show, all

1182
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: the clips looked credible. But then like i'd watch a stream.

1183
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: What's the fucking difference.

1184
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 3: There's a huge difference between watching the stream.

1185
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: I understand there's an actual transactional value. You are supporting someone,

1186
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: you are giving them your money for their entertainment.

1187
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: No, I also mean, like it's just different watching a

1188
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: show live and watching it on stream. There's a different

1189
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: energy that it sounds different.

1190
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: I know. It just blurs the lines even more of

1191
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: where you stand with support versus not support. Like if

1192
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: I say, I do not support this person, but I

1193
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: watched their stream of their live show, Well, we're a

1194
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: bit of a contrary.

1195
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: We watch it because obviously we would have to talk

1196
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: about it. Sure it's different for us, but like you know, again,

1197
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: getting a ticket going to the show, that's a little

1198
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: different than being home and just watching the stream.

1199
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't fuck with a lot of things

1200
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: Kanye West has said. I'm just being honest with myself.

1201
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I would go to the show

1202
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: or I don't know at this point, and I probably

1203
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: won't think think calling it anymore, to be quite honest,

1204
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: but I did get my blueprint ticket.

1205
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: Mmmm.

1206
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: Pepsi's gonna be at that one, no shade they will. Well.

1207
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: First of all, I understand Pepsi's stance because they did

1208
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: end police brutality. So PEPSI has always been on a

1209
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: way higher moral ground than the rest of us. So

1210
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: I do see why they could not align themselves with

1211
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: someone like Kanye West. After you end police brutality with

1212
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner like, I totally get it. It makes sense. Yeah,

1213
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: they had an Asian playing in the cello and black

1214
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: people break dancing PEPSI would never align themselves with someone

1215
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: like Kanye. Well they pulled out Wireless, yep, they did.

1216
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: Uh Diago, which owns a bunch of liquor brands, including Puffs,

1217
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: vodka and tequila. Uh PayPal, please go down that rabbit

1218
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: hole one day on YouTube if you'd like to find

1219
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: out who's moral and who's not. But no, I know

1220
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: they're not doing this because of moral reasons. It's it's business,

1221
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: and I understand why they are. I get it.

1222
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 2: What does this mean for uh, it's for wireless though

1223
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: as far as these are three big sponsors, it's a big,

1224
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: big sponsor.

1225
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: It's huge. I mean, I know festals that lost Budweiser

1226
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: and had to cancel the festival, like one sponsor can

1227
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: bury a festival. I guess as someone that would be

1228
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: running a festival, of course, you don't want to give

1229
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: the power to your advertisers of who can be on

1230
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: the bill. But I feel like you'd want to check

1231
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: with them.

1232
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean yeah, but I don't know, man,

1233
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: I think I kind of see I kind of see

1234
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: uh oh, and rock Star Energy just pulled up, pulled

1235
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: out to Yeah.

1236
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: Once once one big company pulls out, it kind of

1237
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: puts every other company in a weird place because now

1238
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: it looks like, well, they pulled out because it so

1239
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: this means you do stand with everything that Kanye West

1240
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: has ever said in his entirelat.

1241
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm just got to say it. I

1242
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: don't think Kanye is gonna be doing Wireless No.

1243
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: And I mean there was already I wouldn't say rumors

1244
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: like legitimate news sources saying that they're trying to block

1245
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: Kanye from even entering the UK. So I I think

1246
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: Kanye will not be doing that show.

1247
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: Wait they're trying to for because of anti Semitism, Okay.

1248
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: I think that there may be sponsors who want to

1249
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: take a stand against things like that that might sign

1250
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: up to sponsor.

1251
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Things the optics and now everyone has to pull pull

1252
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: out and listen. I totally understand why Jewish people would

1253
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: be offended by the things that Kanye was said. I'm

1254
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: not saying they shouldn't feel away. I've just seen Drill

1255
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: rap on a festival stage with a Pepsi logo behind it.

1256
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: Just an obligation, Just making an obligation.

1257
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: That's all I get.

1258
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: All right, rockstars, because everyone does this mean you stand

1259
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: with everything Kanye said? Well, I mean I've seen you

1260
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: guys advertise with a lot of artists that say a

1261
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of wild shit. Yeah, I'm not condoning what Kanye said,

1262
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: but I've seen little Dirk in front of a sprite

1263
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: ad like, I don't know what to tell you.

1264
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, the people he is talking about killing are black people,

1265
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: when no one cares about black people. When you have

1266
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: an issue with other people's people, there tends.

1267
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: To be a problem that went without saying.

1268
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: But I felt like saying people don't.

1269
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: You can't say that part out loud.

1270
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: People don't give a fuck about black people. They don't.

1271
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: He said it out loud.

1272
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: He had a great career. People don't give a fuck

1273
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: about black people.

1274
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: So when you talking about drugging and raping and murdering

1275
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: your own dads, slap a logo behind that so quick.

1276
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty of logos.

1277
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 1: And this isn't the Kanye defender, Like everything he does

1278
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: has this deep meaning that you don't understand. But that

1279
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: hole Hitler song, which was insane, he was trying to

1280
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: prove that this song will be the only song taking

1281
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: off DSPs. But everything talking about murder is totally fine

1282
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: right here. M So, I don't know, just it puts

1283
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: advertisers in a weird place, like, don't I think it'll

1284
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: just say, hey, we're not doing this, not because we

1285
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: think it's antisemitic. It's because we're getting a lot of

1286
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: pressure from people that we work with and need to

1287
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: continue to work with. I think a lot of I

1288
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: think a lot of these.

1289
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: Festival people and stuff, I think they kind of knew

1290
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: that this was gonna happen. I think they anticipated some

1291
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: of this, And I'm willing to bet that the person

1292
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: that is going to end up doing wireless, they already

1293
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Speaker 2: like had him, kind of like you know, in the

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: Wings he or she and the Wings like, listen, we

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01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: have Kanye. We're gonna announce Kanye. We anticipate there will

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01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: be some pushback, brands will want to, you know, distance

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: themselves from the festival. In the event that that happens,

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: We're going to offer you to wireless this year. I

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: feel like that's they had to have. There's no way

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Speaker 2: they didn't anticipate this happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot. I think a lot of

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: companies were starting to think that the Kanye forgiveness thing

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: was kicking in all the way, Like when you do

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadio, Like, is that not probably the most important

1305
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: stadium in the United States. It's in Los Angeles, it's

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01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: brand new, biggest market, even met Life's in the fucking

1307
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: swamps like that, it's probably the most important Stateum Like, well,

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Speaker 1: Kanye is doing that, we should be fine either way.

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: We can all agree that it looks like Kanye West

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01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: will not be doing wireless, And I'm sure they're scrambling

1311
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: who do they get after you go Drake Kanye, Like,

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: who's that replacement?

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Speaker 2: My guess is somebody that he brought out with him

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01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: at the show? Travis?

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I could see Travis.

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: Travis or maybe have a mix of different artists for

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: the three days.

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Speaker 1: I can see that as well. Or I mean they

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: could just do what every festival does and just have

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01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: a Sap, Rocky Hitler.

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: Or or what what would what? What would be the

1322
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: gotcha of all gotchas Jay does three nights in New York,

1323
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: Beyonce's three nights in the UK, that would be that

1324
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: that would be that would be the gotcha of all gotchas.

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that would be that would be hilarious. Jay,

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: you do New York for three nights, b does Yeah London.

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01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: For three nights and they stream each other shows at

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01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: the shows with the volume off. Yeah, like like there's

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: just one screen is dedicated.

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01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's six hours ahead, right, so I don't know,

1331
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, does be stuff that could be the opener?

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01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Does be they really flexing began on the jet right

1333
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: after her show and fly to New York. I'm just saying,

1334
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: when you got money so many ways, there's so many options,

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: you know, options are limitless when you got that type

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Speaker 2: of money. Yeah, I could be six hours ahead, do

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Speaker 2: my show and then fly back.

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01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: Whether it be six No, you couldn't do New York

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, listen the jet streams doing this.

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Speaker 2: I mean listen, man, I'm just saying, but yeah, somebody

1341
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: like that, I could see that happening.

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And do those sponsors come back?

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: What if they're not an unlimited Pepsi in the UK

1344
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: unlimited PEPSI? Are you kidding?

1345
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: Like whoever they but like if Kanye is off the bill,

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01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: did the sponsor go Okay, cool now who we're back?

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, absolutely if Jake, if they announced Jake Cole

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: doing wireless, that'd be good. J Cole's done it like

1349
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: three times, though, I don't know if it would be him.

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Speaker 2: He's done wireless, He's done it like three times. Drake

1351
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: has done it like three times. Yeah, I mean just

1352
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: put an album out so you know.

1353
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: Was tour. I mean he announced tours that around the

1354
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: same He might be on the road. Oh yeah, probably,

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh actually he is.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: Kendrick possible. Possibly.

1358
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Speaker 3: I'm not seeing his name as headliner for the past seven.

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Speaker 1: Or so years, so yeah, I could see that. Ok Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just really don't see Kanye West being on that

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01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: stage after every advertising.

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's not happening. Yeah, they're gonna be

1363
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 2: like listen, bro, we can't. I mean, Kanye could flex

1364
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: and pay for themselves. Yeah, but who want to do that.

1365
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he could if you really cared about it, though.

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: But again, this is where it puts everyone in a

1367
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: weird position, even though we know these companies are doing

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01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: it for moral reasons. Now, let's say Kanye goes to

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: wireless and says, all right, how much money were you

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01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: making from these advertisers? All Right, the entire thing is

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: sponsored by Donda or Jesus. Now the optics makes it

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Speaker 1: look like Wireless is like, well, we agree with everything

1373
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: Kanye West. That's to say, I mean, but because that's

1374
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: what happens when one advertiser pulls out. Now everyone else

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: is like, well.

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01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: Shit, I don't know, but that's already, that's already think

1377
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: they already announced him as the headliner, so it doesn't

1378
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: clearly they didn't have an issue with Kanye.

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01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: But that's that's I mean, that's just not how you

1380
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: cannot have an issue with Kanye until sponsors pull out.

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Speaker 2: You're bringing in logic, No I understand, but yeah, bringing

1382
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: logic to the conversation, like y'all can't do that now

1383
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: y'all already announced him.

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Speaker 1: So it was was fine.

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: But when Pepsi paid pal the Agio Rockstar Energy be

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01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: like yo, na we cool. Yeah, then Wireless is like.

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Speaker 1: Your Kanye, I ain't gonna lie. We got to back

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01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: out of it. I just thought I think they all

1389
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: thought forgiveness had been given. Kanye was with the rabbi.

1390
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: That's another thing too, just religious. Was he supposed to

1391
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: be forgiven. He met with a rabbit, he met with

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Speaker 1: the guy.

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Speaker 2: That's what we thought. That's what we thought.

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01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Clearly, Diagi all religions and forgiveness. They didn't see that.

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: They didn't see the hand translator. They didn't see it.

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01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: So there, you know, you know, I know what book

1397
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: Kanye the Saudi's Oh man, you heard what Dave said.

1398
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: Dave said said, Dave said this and then went to

1399
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Speaker 1: the Kanye show. It was smoking Eric Abadu and Dave

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Speaker 1: Chappelle for that. Wow, people are gonna do what they

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01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: want to do. That's the bottom line. People are gonna

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01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: do what the fuck they wanted. And I also I

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: understand people's outraged with that, But then I hate when

1404
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: people are like Chappelle and Erica I do stand for nothing.

1405
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: Lauren Hill stands for nothing, Like you know what these

1406
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: people have stood for in the music industry? Yeah yeah,

1407
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: are y'alls a what do y'all stand for? Have you

1408
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: walked away from fifty million dollars because it was the

1409
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: right thing to do because black comedians were getting fucked

1410
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: over by Comedy Central.

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: They don't stand for shit.

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01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: They sit on the internet and type everybody always some some,

1413
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: so and so don't stand for nothing. You don't stand

1414
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 3: for nothing. You don't go help your community, you don't

1415
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: donate the shit. You just sit on Twitter and fucking complain.

1416
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up.

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01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: My bad. I'm sorry that sounded personally. I don't know.

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01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt that in my chest. I

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01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: wish I would have.

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Speaker 4: Said that that shit is so oh No.

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Speaker 1: You guys brought up cold with a wireless thing. There

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Speaker 1: was one conveo we didn't have because I think we

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Speaker 1: were just kind of j cold out with his press run,

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Speaker 1: and I know our listeners were. He did bring up

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Speaker 1: an interesting point in one of those interviews. I want

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: I want to talk about his point. He said there

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: may never be another universal classic and hip hop again.

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01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: I kind of feel him. I don't know if the

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01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: climate even allows for it anymore.

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: He goes on to say, there's too many voices now

1462
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: and it's too much biased.

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: There's never going to be agreement again.

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01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like politics now. Your best

1465
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: bet to get another hands down universal classic is from

1466
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: someone who hasn't developed enough hate yet. You think if

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: Drake Iceman comes out and it's something that I feel

1468
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: as a classic, you think that this guy that don't

1469
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: like Drake and been spending his whole time shitting on

1470
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 2: him is going to agree on his platform that it

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Speaker 2: is a classic. Fuck No, I understand, to a cold

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: saying I understand. I don't think there'll ever be a

1473
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,879
Speaker 2: unanimous agreement on an album like this is a classic

1474
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: because you have so many people that can, you know,

1475
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 2: voice that they don't feel it's a classic. Those voices

1476
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: can be heard now. But I do think that there

1477
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: is still enough people that can agree when you hear it,

1478
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: and when we get something, we're like, yo, that's incredible,

1479
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: because we've we've you know, we've had it.

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01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: We've had those moments where it's like.

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of agrees, like Yo, this is this is incredible.

1482
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: But I understand what he's saying. It's people that can't wait,

1483
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 2: no matter how great Iceman sounds. Right, listen because he

1484
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: said Iceman, not because I want to say it, no

1485
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:46,879
Speaker 2: matter how great Iceman sounds. The most anticipated album probably,

1486
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: did I say.

1487
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: Ever that we've had I wouldn't say ever.

1488
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: But whatever, right. I think that when the album comes out,

1489
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: I think if people feel like it's a classic or

1490
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: it's great, they'll say that. But to what Cole is saying,

1491
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: there's absolutely gonna be people that can't wait to trash

1492
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: it and say it's terrible and it's his worst project.

1493
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: Because like we were talking earlier, that's what catches sometimes

1494
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 2: is the negative shit, people trashing it, people saying it's garbage,

1495
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: it's his worst album. Those voices now have a platform,

1496
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: and those voices sometimes are pushed like okay, yeah, like yeah,

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01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that album is good.

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: That shit is trashed.

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: But these are people that no matter what the album

1500
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: is gonna sound like, they're going to say that, Like

1501
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: you can't change people's opinions. Now, at home, they might

1502
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: love it and bumpet, but when they got to turn

1503
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: on their cameras and turn on their streams and go

1504
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: live and go on YouTube, they're gonna push a different

1505
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 2: energy because that's what has been advantageous for them, Like

1506
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: that's been successful for them. Like nah, say you hate

1507
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: it no matter what. But even before all of these people,

1508
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: I hear you.

1509
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: But even before and you're right, but even before people

1510
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: had all these voices, there is no such thing as

1511
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: a universal classic. You came in here and said that

1512
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: there's mad skips on, Get Richard Die Try, and everybody

1513
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 3: looked like you were crazy. There's no such thing as

1514
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 3: a universal classic. It's a general consensus that this is

1515
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 3: a classic. And I think that if you in this,

1516
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 3: even in this day and age, if you do put

1517
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: out an album where the music is good enough, even

1518
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 3: if there are people that are shitting on it, it

1519
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: will still be known as a classic if the music

1520
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: is good enough. However, I do agree with him with

1521
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 3: as far as someone who hasn't gained enough hate yet,

1522
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 3: because I think if you're way too far in your

1523
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,839
Speaker 3: career and you have the level of haters that Drake has,

1524
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: I do think that it is, it can become impossible.

1525
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: But just because the post like.

1526
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: A rat Cole Kendrick thing, I understand what he's saying

1527
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: because of the climate with specifically those three artists, and

1528
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: typically a classic would come from the bigger, established artists,

1529
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: not to like even agree with Erol's point that I

1530
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: disagree with Have we just given voices to people that

1531
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: aren't here for music to begin with? Like why why

1532
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: should they dictate thateople that are sitting here waiting to hate,

1533
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: Like before they even hit play, they already have their

1534
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, ice managed trash shit in their drafts, but

1535
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: in the room, who why should we even give them

1536
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: the ability to deem any of that?

1537
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 3: In the real world people don't though, That's the thing,

1538
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: Like what's being said on the internet is not correlating

1539
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 3: with people who don't, who don't have a Twitter, who

1540
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 3: are out in the real world playing the album in

1541
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: their car, Like.

1542
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but why I agree with you is

1543
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: I used to think there was universal classics nil until Twitter, really,

1544
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this new weird stand era before

1545
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,879
Speaker 1: that classics that me and my circle deemed to be classics.

1546
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: I got on Twitter in two thousand and nine and

1547
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: people were, you know, certain tribe albums aren't classices, Like

1548
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: I've never even heard anyone say that, Like, it's just

1549
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: allowed you have more access to musical opinions instead of

1550
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: your your inner circle, which typically you know, you argue,

1551
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: but you tend to agree. Your your friends are hip

1552
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: hop fans. Yeah, it never went further than that, so

1553
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: universal classic wasn't really universal. It was your circle. Yeah,

1554
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: now it's universal, and then nothing can be universal. Yeah,

1555
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: not everyone to add shit to get rich, you're not trying.

1556
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: But I never didn't even saying my life m and y'all.

1557
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 3: From the same like like this isn't like he's not like.

1558
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: From like Kentucky, like he's from New York. So that

1559
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: was yeah. Well again, I think that people throw the

1560
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: word classic around too loosely. An album can be great,

1561
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: an album could be really good. It doesn't have to

1562
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: be either bad or classic, And I feel like that's

1563
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: where we kind of are in that space now. It's

1564
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: either like I love it or I hate it, and

1565
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: it's like that's not no. An album could just be good.

1566
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just be cool. Sometimes it just be cool,

1567
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: Like that album is cool. I funk with it.

1568
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 1: But it's like people be wanting to say, no, it's classic. Classic.

1569
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all use that word too loosely, Like classic

1570
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: first of all needs time, a certain amount of time

1571
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: to be deemed a classic instant, but yeah, there's something

1572
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: that we love immediates. Was like, this is incredible, right,

1573
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: But classic, I think is a testament of time and

1574
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: how it ages and how it sounds five ten, fifteen years,

1575
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: how much it changed the way people made albums, how

1576
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: much it changed the way people made songs, how much

1577
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: it influenced people. Like that's what I think you have to, like,

1578
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,919
Speaker 2: you know, put into the pot of it being a classic.

1579
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: But just because the song is good and you like

1580
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: it and it's a lot of songs in there that

1581
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 2: you like, that doesn't mean you have to run to

1582
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: say classic, Like I just don't. I don't think that

1583
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: what was the sorry, y, what was the last universal classic?

1584
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: Figure out?

1585
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 5: I was.

1586
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: What was the last universal classic that you think?

1587
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: I used to think it would be between Well, I

1588
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: think both these albums are classics, but Good Kid, Mad City,

1589
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: and might Be for Darkness and Fantasy. To me, I

1590
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: thought those were the last universal classics, and then shit

1591
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: on the old pot, people are saying it's not a

1592
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: classic at all. Like I didn't even know people didn't

1593
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: think that.

1594
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: Good Kid, Mass City or My Beautiful Fantasy.

1595
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking about older people like they're like,

1596
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: what you think. I was like, you can, you can

1597
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: make a case it's the best hip hop album and

1598
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: they look at me like I'm nuts insane to me,

1599
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: but I would say those would be the last ones

1600
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: that I remember everyone going like, all right, these are

1601
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: this is a classic. But that I started to meet

1602
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: more people that thought otherwise.

1603
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: So I don't really know, mall, what about you the

1604
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: last universal classic that you think.

1605
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: The last universal classic? I feel like Jay's Black.

1606
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: Album that's a very long time ago. Mare. No, I'm

1607
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 2: just naming like that exactly right. I'm just naming ones

1608
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: that I could think about. Yeah, I felt like My

1609
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: Beautiful Dog Twisted Fantasy was one of them. I feel

1610
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: like everybody felt like that album was incredible. And take Care.

1611
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: I feel like take Care was was one that a

1612
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 2: lot of people felt like was a classic.

1613
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: At the time, take care was considered an instant classic.

1614
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: But over time my opinion on that has changed. But

1615
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 3: take care was considered an instant classic.

1616
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 2: Why has your opinion changed over time?

1617
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: Because I don't think that take care Age is Like

1618
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: I said, I don't think that that's Drake's classic.

1619
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't think take care of Age is as good

1620
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: as Views did.

1621
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but to me, take care was an instant

1622
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 3: classic when the first job, I still loved take care

1623
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 3: of I think Views is better.

1624
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: But then you still had that. Again, I think that

1625
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: was our circles that because I thought the same thing

1626
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: would take care Care This is a classic. But there

1627
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: was also that maybe kind of started what Cole is

1628
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: talking about. At a very small level, there was the

1629
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: Drake hate train of like singing shit is horrible just.

1630
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 3: Because the last instant classic for everybody that I would

1631
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: assume would be Anti, which would be Rihanna, that would

1632
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 3: be the last like if we're not talking rap, Yeah,

1633
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: I mean.

1634
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: That Control is the same year too, Rights.

1635
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: The Control, Yes, I think so around that time. I

1636
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: don't think that Control is a classic though, so but

1637
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 3: I do it's a universal classic.

1638
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: But I would be on my get Richard ied Try.

1639
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: And with Control seventeen. So yeah, I mean I think

1640
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: Controls was a classic and is a classic. I mean,

1641
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: anti do we have to do? But I'm sure we

1642
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: could probably if we type it on Twitter now, not

1643
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: someone that's trolling. There's probably someone that's really a music

1644
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: fan that would say that's not a classic, and it

1645
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: would blow my mind on why they would think that.

1646
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: But what's the album she put out after the Control

1647
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: That's what's.

1648
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 3: That's what's SOS is a classics, is fucking incredible.

1649
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: Control is so concising.

1650
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: I've always I thought that SOS is better.

1651
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: I came on the pod and y'all made fun of me.

1652
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: Control is illmatic and SOS is it was written like

1653
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: it's a perfect example to me of those two things.

1654
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: And a lot of people think it was written was

1655
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: better than Ellmatic, and I'm fine with that opinion. But

1656
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: Controls the concise fucking ten records like Ellmatic. It was

1657
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: written was when Nas experimented a big gouty in his back,

1658
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: like it's a longer album. I think the same thing

1659
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: with with and Control verse as as that's is incredible

1660
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen four.

1661
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 3: So those Drives is a classic, but I'm a cold fan,

1662
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 3: so nobody takes anything I say seriously.

1663
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: I personally think it's a classic as well, but I

1664
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's a universal classic. Yeah we about universal.

1665
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: They would say that it's his classic. Oh yeah, yeah,

1666
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 2: I would say that.

1667
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: But also with streaming and access that we have now,

1668
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: which I think has been a good thing, Like all

1669
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: these niche pockets of wrap exists now, Like there's not

1670
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: just the radio and here's the five artists that you

1671
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: have to listen to, and that's that's it. That type

1672
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: of environment creates an easier lane for a classic because

1673
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: there's only so many artists being pushed on the radio

1674
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: in your face. Now it doesn't matter, Like bro, I don't.

1675
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't listen to heat he fucking does Arenas. To

1676
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 1: that world, it's a classic. But there is no universal

1677
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: anymore because I don't have to listen.

1678
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: To eat But I even still, I hear you.

1679
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't have to listen to it. I hear you.

1680
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: But the good the cream rises to the top. No,

1681
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 3: of course, you know what I'm saying. So like you

1682
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: can sell out Arenas and you can have all of

1683
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: these streams and all of that, but when it comes

1684
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: to a classic album, the masses do have to agree

1685
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: on that, Like it can't just be your little pocket

1686
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 3: corner of the world.

1687
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: The masses do have to agree.

1688
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: But I'm saying the masses don't exist anymore because even

1689
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: pockets are people doing arenas, the masses still exists.

1690
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 3: That's why you can have a Beyonce, you can have

1691
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: a Drake, you can have a Travis Scott. The masses

1692
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 3: still matter. You can have your pockets, but the masses

1693
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 3: still matter.

1694
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: Artists that have been Drake came out in what seven,

1695
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: Beyonce came out in nineteen ninety five, Like you're talking

1696
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: about artists that have that come from a different system

1697
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: and now have just adapted because they're superstars for new

1698
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: acts that doesn't exist. We always have the superstar conversation.

1699
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: And the answer to that is because of how the

1700
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: system is, it's just pockets.

1701
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: Of Yes, it's too many.

1702
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 1: It's there's no more masses anymore.

1703
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's too many people, Like we all listen

1704
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 2: to rap hip hop, but there's so many different you know,

1705
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 2: subgenres and things like that. Now to that have developed

1706
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: their own world and their own following that we're not

1707
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: a part of because we don't listen to that. But

1708
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: like you said, somebody like yeah, he can go and

1709
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: sell out an arena right now. We don't listen to

1710
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 2: that though, Like me and Roy don't listen to that.

1711
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: Not saying he's not talented and not saying he's not dope,

1712
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: we just don't listen to that shit. We was late

1713
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 2: on't really like listening and getting into NBA young boys

1714
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: music like that. We just saw what he was doing

1715
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: and we like we knew he had a following, but

1716
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 2: I was like, shit, like they in there. I haven't

1717
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: seen an arena full of fans that was rocking like that,

1718
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: unless it was like classic legendary artists. So that was

1719
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 2: like when we saw that, let hold up, Like, we

1720
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 2: got to really pay attention to what he's doing. So

1721
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: you have all of these different you know, like people

1722
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: that love and be a young boy might think his

1723
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: album is a classic. Drake can put out his greatest

1724
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: album right now, they're gonna be like, yea, that shit

1725
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: is trash. Yeah, there's just so many different people online

1726
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: that can voice that opinion that don't really like that's

1727
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: just not their shit. They don't really listen to that.

1728
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: Back meaning back when and when Ellmatic It was written

1729
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: came out, there wasn't we weren't so divided as listeners.

1730
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 2: Even the genre wasn't as so many different sounds in

1731
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: the genre like that. Back then, there was different types

1732
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 2: of hip hop for sure, but not as like it

1733
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: is now, Like there's so many different sounds and different

1734
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: types of artists with like, we don't really listen to that,

1735
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that that's not dope and good music. Yes, no,

1736
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't. You can't say that because it's people that

1737
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: don't listen to the type of rap that we love

1738
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: that's like that shit trash. Yeah, somebody thinks Jake Cole

1739
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: is trash out there in the world, which is what

1740
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: they've always said that that's fine, But that's what I'm saying.

1741
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Some people think that. We don't think that, But it's

1742
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: some people that are listening to rap. They're like, man,

1743
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 2: that cold shit trash, get out of there. Nobody want

1744
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: to hit that shit.

1745
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: But I just feel like I feel like, Okay, you

1746
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 3: can say some shit is trash, right, but we all

1747
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 3: know you just don't like it.

1748
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 2: Some shit really just do be musically trash.

1749
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: And that's okay.

1750
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 3: That's like some people like garbage, like Obscar loved garbage

1751
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: and street like some people like garbage, But that don't

1752
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 3: mean it's not garbage. Where is Somebody can dislike j

1753
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: Cole and say that ship is trash. But if you

1754
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 3: pay attention to a rap, is he's a good rapper

1755
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: whether you like the music or not. Like that's some

1756
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 3: of this shit be asked, like for real, and this

1757
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 3: is not just me being old or us just being old.

1758
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 3: It'd literally be asked.

1759
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, go back, I go back to when DMX

1760
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: was on He's with Charlamagne in them, and they was

1761
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: asking about rappers and artists that he's like he was

1762
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: naming niggas that was killing on the chalk at the time.

1763
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: Like I don't really listen, No, I don't like him.

1764
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: I don't like him, but you know what I'm saying,

1765
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: And this is DMX, Like this is somebody that has

1766
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: put out classic songs, classic album like, so he has

1767
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 2: a he can he can speak to that, you can

1768
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 2: ask him in his opinion, and it's like valid because

1769
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: he did it. He walked that road.

1770
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: Already music was changing at that time too, so he

1771
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 3: wasn't but that.

1772
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: We was listening to that we loved and the artists

1773
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: that we love. You asked somebody like DMX, and he's like, Nah,

1774
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 2: that shit, I don't listen to that.

1775
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't need that shit.

1776
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: Like Ross, all these niggas had crazy songs, crazy albums out.

1777
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, I don't want to hear about you

1778
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: eating and and you buying cars, Like I don't want

1779
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: to hear that shit. And this is the artist that

1780
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: had great songs out, great albums out. But somebody like

1781
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: DMX is like, Yo, nah, I just don't that shit

1782
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: ain't I don't listen to.

1783
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 3: My dad you said that used to be like hip

1784
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: hop when I used to play Drake when I was younger.

1785
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 2: He's like, hip hop getting too soft? Why is niggas singing?

1786
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, but it's not all supposed to be

1787
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 3: so hard.

1788
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,520
Speaker 2: That's what always been now. Ll LL had songs and melodies.

1789
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: Curtis Blow, like all of these niggas had was doing

1790
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 2: that like that was always a part of it. Ll

1791
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 2: was a singer, No, not to the extent up what

1792
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: Drake is. No, no rapper has sang to what Drake

1793
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: is doing like but I'm just saying like somebody like

1794
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: Ella had it was ladies love. He was making songs

1795
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: for girls like it wasn't you know what I'm saying,

1796
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: Like it's some of his best songs is R and B.

1797
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: Like it's R and B. It's on R and B.

1798
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: Hook you get what I'm saying. So it was soft

1799
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,919
Speaker 2: to an extent. It was still melody. It was still melodic,

1800
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: but it was just you know, he just was. He

1801
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: wasn't the one that was really singing like that. But

1802
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: the song we love it because of the melody niggas playing.

1803
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: And he said, plus he's drinking too much and smoke

1804
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 2: too many blunts.

1805
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 3: Why you hating on somebody else nigga like that, Like.

1806
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta throw that in there, just you gotta

1807
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: you gotta let her know what she dealing with. Like, Yo,

1808
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 2: you know that nigga smoke too much? Right, Like you're

1809
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: dating an addict, Like that's what LLLL was saying, Like

1810
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: you know you're dating an addict. I'm in the gym,

1811
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: you see me, I'll be working out like I et

1812
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: LD like you want to be with him? He throwing

1813
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 2: your pH off and all that that's really what LLL

1814
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: was getting to.

1815
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Dirty Mac, He's Hall of Fame Dirty Mac. Yeah,

1816
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Sometimes he's up there with Mario. Yeah, you

1817
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: know he's he's he's first ballance. And you think PayPal

1818
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: didn't call Diagio. They was dirty macking, Like, Yo, Son,

1819
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,480
Speaker 1: you Jack and Kanye doing this without logo because advertising

1820
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: is simply who all gonna be there? Yeah, like.

1821
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: Y'all going like yo, like yo, listen, you know yay,

1822
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,759
Speaker 2: Like do we want to because you know he liable

1823
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 2: to get on that wireless stage. It's crazy my logo

1824
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: behind him? Oh nah, yeah yeah advertisers dirty Mac too, Like, Yo,

1825
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: you know what Kanye just said?

1826
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: You sure you want that PayPal logo up there? Like

1827
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: we saw a kid Rock shoot of twenty four pack

1828
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: of Bud Light with an AR fifteen. We can't have this.

1829
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: We can't have this, man, we cannot stand for this.

1830
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 2: We gotta stand for something, but this ain't it. That's

1831
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: a fucking.

1832
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: Hilarious yeah, Like when you know the baby's on stage

1833
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: asking if you suck your man's dick. Sometimes I don't know,

1834
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: Monster Energy doesn't want to be behind you.

1835
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 3: He's going viral, right, now again too, for what what

1836
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 3: do you say, Well, outside of that pop that song,

1837
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 3: which I do want to say, how everybody said that

1838
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 3: the baby couldn't have a comeback that popped that song

1839
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 3: that nigga says, spread them cheeks, let me see that.

1840
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: Whole and we are just poetic whole time in Houston.

1841
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: Every time that song came out, I was in a

1842
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: split showing hold. I just didn't I say pege at

1843
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: the top, I saw some wink. That's the Pepsy logo.

1844
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: If you look at it's just somebody yo.

1845
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:29,799
Speaker 1: The baby.

1846
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: Jesus fucking Christ, Let me do my job.

1847
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: The baby is currently going viral again.

1848
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: They saying, you know, he has a reputation for being mean,

1849
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: but some people are agreeing with him on this. A

1850
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: fan painted his daughters the picture is a beautiful picture

1851
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 3: of his daughters, and he refused to take it, and

1852
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: he came back and his rebuttal was, what the fuck

1853
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: are you drawing my daughters? Like I don't even jack

1854
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 3: that for real? And you still got the picture that

1855
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 3: you took, like the picture of the pain on your page,

1856
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 3: Like take that shit down. That shit is weird.

1857
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: Do you all agree with him?

1858
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I wouldn't. If we were at a meet

1859
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: and greet and somebody brought me a painting.

1860
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: Of a more stand up, stand tall, stand tall, that's

1861
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: why I fuck, that's why you my guy stand tall.

1862
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have handled it the way the baby did,

1863
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: but I would have had the same feelings. Okay, that

1864
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: makes sense.

1865
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: I would.

1866
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I want you to. But

1867
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: then again, I also don't post unless you're my close friends.

1868
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: I don't post tomorrow on there. But if I posted

1869
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 1: Amar's photo on Instagram and somebody painted it, what's the difference.

1870
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: Then I don't really have an I'd like to stand

1871
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:43,799
Speaker 1: on in that regard, But I can as a parent,

1872
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,520
Speaker 1: if somebody brought up like, okay, you chose my children?

1873
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: I think this person and they're Charleston White's second cousin.

1874
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: I found that out via him. I don't think it

1875
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: automatically means they had bad intentions mm hm. But I

1876
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: think every parent is allowed to have those antennas of

1877
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: anyone that doesn't know their kid painting their child awesome, Like,

1878
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: I can see why your spidy senses be like WHOA like? Okay,

1879
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sure this person didn't have bad intentions or

1880
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: as like some fucking weird creep. It is just an

1881
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: interesting choice when you don't know somebody to paint their

1882
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: children and give them a gift. But if you put

1883
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: your children on the internet and someone paints them, I

1884
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: don't know if you're allowed to just be like, nah,

1885
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: fuck that you're weird.

1886
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think two things can be true. I think

1887
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: you can. You can feel a way about a random

1888
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 2: artist walking up to you and showing your painting of

1889
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: your your daughters or your children. I think you can

1890
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: kind of look at that like, you know, like it's

1891
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: a little a little awkward, little little little weird. But okay.

1892
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: But now if this is a picture that you've posted

1893
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 2: on social media because he had to get the picture

1894
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: from somewhere. Yeah, right, So if you posted this on

1895
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: your social media and it's you know, an artist saw

1896
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 2: that and was like, yo, I think it would be

1897
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: you know, this would be something that the baby would

1898
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 2: because I think I do think the artist made the

1899
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 2: painting out of just like wanting the baby to have

1900
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 2: something special of his children or whatever like to have

1901
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: in his house.

1902
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Right, So I.

1903
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: Don't think he had bad intentions mind it, but I

1904
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: could as a father. I could understand the baby stance

1905
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 2: of you know, this is a little this is a

1906
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 2: little weird of you to, you know, just make this

1907
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: painting of my kids. But again, we just got to

1908
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: understand intent. I think sometimes and I think that gets lost.

1909
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 2: I think the artist thought he was doing, you know,

1910
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 2: something nice that the baby would appreciate, of having that

1911
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: picture as a painting, you know what I'm saying. I

1912
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 2: don't think it was some weird energy behind the artists

1913
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: doing that at all. I just think the way you

1914
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 2: handle things is the important part. I think that's what

1915
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 2: you can control. I think the baby, you know, him

1916
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 2: having a conversation with the artists like, you know, I

1917
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: appreciate the gesture, but I do think it's a little

1918
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, awkward of you to paint this picture of

1919
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 2: my of my daughter's But I you know, I understand

1920
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: the intent behind it. You meant well, and you thought

1921
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 2: it was something I would appreciate. But I would appreciate

1922
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 2: if you didn't just, yeah, you know, paint a portrait

1923
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: of my kids.

1924
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 3: But see, Okay, so after the baby didn't take the painting,

1925
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 3: the painter said he didn't see what was wrong with

1926
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: the painting, and a new post and shouted the baby out,

1927
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: and then the baby commentent and said, you still got

1928
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: my daughter's on your page as a grown man after

1929
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 3: I made it clear that I ain't comfortable with that.

1930
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: That's where you go wrong.

1931
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 3: You can have all the good intent in the world,

1932
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 3: but now the painting that I already told you all

1933
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: was nut comfortable with what you doing, you go and

1934
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 3: post it on your fucking page.

1935
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: Now you're trying to go viral. Now that's that's now.

1936
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: That is also don't know why he didn't take the

1937
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: painting feeling that way. I'm taking the like painting you

1938
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,560
Speaker 1: if I feel like you shouldn't paint my children and

1939
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: give me the I'm not giving you back the painting. Yeah,

1940
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna hang it in your crib. Yeah, I'm gonna

1941
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: take that painting. Like who else wouldn't need a photo

1942
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: of my children besides me?

1943
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also might not want to encourage other

1944
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 3: people to do the same, like taking it might make

1945
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 3: it look like No.

1946
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: I think you can make it clear to him that

1947
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: you feel uncomfortable with that with the video and then

1948
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: just take the painting and dispose of whatever fuck you

1949
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: want to do with it. But giving back to them

1950
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: is I feel like the baby probably should have taken

1951
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: that if you felt that way.

1952
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just again posting on Edgy and saying,

1953
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with this picture, Like why

1954
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 3: would the nigga If I don't want you to post

1955
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 3: the pain in my daughters? Why the fuck would you

1956
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 3: post the pain? Like now, I feel like you only

1957
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 3: painted it to go to get attention to go viral.

1958
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's kind of he's kind of proving

1959
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: the baby's point of why it's why it's weird. Yeah, yeah,

1960
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: when you post on your page and that's like, Okay,

1961
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have handled it the way he would have.

1962
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, if we were at a meet and greet,

1963
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I would accept it. But yeah, be like it's a

1964
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: little odd. But then again, people have I have multiple

1965
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: paintings of myself for meet and greets, and I think,

1966
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,879
Speaker 1: in my head, how narcissis to do you think? I am,

1967
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: mm hmm, You'm gonna hang up a painting of me? Yeah,

1968
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean I would, And I've been very.

1969
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,520
Speaker 2: Appreciative, like wearing you on your shirt.

1970
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: And I've always appreciated when people did that, some of

1971
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: them have been really great. But I will tell you

1972
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: they are sitting in my closet because I don't know

1973
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: where to hang a painting of myself.

1974
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get it.

1975
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,480
Speaker 1: That's a little.

1976
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do with a paint.

1977
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Remember the Sopranos when Tony tried to get rid of

1978
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: the painting of himself and then Paulie took it and

1979
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: got it on his grip, matching the marriage. Just having

1980
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: a painting over the man.

1981
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 2: That is, it's crazy, that's wild as fun. So you

1982
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 2: wanted to see your ass every every day.

1983
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Just got the view just taking just looking down.

1984
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: But I do understand the baby. I get it's a

1985
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: little awkward for a random artist to walk up to

1986
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: you in the club and have a portrait of your kids.

1987
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I get that part of it. But I do think

1988
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: there's a way to have that conversation and you know,

1989
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: still show appreciation for an artist trying to do a

1990
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 2: good gesture, but to let them know, like yo, listen,

1991
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: I would just appreciate it if you didn't, didn't you know,

1992
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 2: paint portraits of my kids like this. I think it's

1993
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 2: a I understand both sides of it.

1994
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, before we get out of here when

1995
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 1: we're recording this. The national Championship has not happened yet

1996
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: with NCAA basketball Michigan versus Yukon. When you hear this,

1997
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: you'll know the results, but we can have funny guests.

1998
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:35,919
Speaker 2: I'm taking the Huskies. Taking the Huskies.

1999
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: How you con made it to the finals is beyond me.

2000
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Listen, after you make a shot like that against against Duke,

2001
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 2: that puts you on such a high that I think like,

2002
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 2: it's that to me, is the championship? Like making a

2003
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 2: shot like that in that moment, I think that anything

2004
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,719
Speaker 2: else after that is kind of like it's just a walk.

2005
01:33:58,520 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: In the park.

2006
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, that rusher in that moment. Now, don't get

2007
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: the championship game a lot of pressure. But again, if

2008
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: you're coming off with two games ago, you hit that

2009
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: shot and your team's on a high, adrenaline is still flowing.

2010
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 2: I just think it's hard to beat a team that

2011
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 2: is on a high like that.

2012
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: No, they're on a run. Yeah, they're definitely on a run.

2013
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: And I mean, I love the the Hurley family, Jersey

2014
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: City Royalty, love them, always want to support them. But

2015
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I still think Michigan. You're taking Michigan yeah, I'm with you.

2016
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: They're on a run. But Yukon should not be in

2017
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: the championship. They shouldn't. Yeah, but that's that's the Yeah.

2018
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean magic in March. I get it. They're two seed.

2019
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't beat Saint John's.

2020
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 2: I mean they're a two seed though they you know,

2021
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: so it's not like they're seven seed and in there.

2022
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: They're two seed. I just don't.

2023
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 2: But I take the Husky. I got the Huskies winning by.

2024
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,799
Speaker 1: Let's say eight, damn Okay, Yeah, I got the Huskies

2025
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: by eight. All right, I'm going to Michigan, but I

2026
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: think it'll be a very close game.

2027
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: Husky's about eight. Man, get it done, Get it done.

2028
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: Yo. Arizona got fucking washed.

2029
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like that was gonna happen.

2030
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: Though, I fuck with Arizona.

2031
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 5: It was.

2032
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: It was tough to watch, but not at it.

2033
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: I had Arizona one in the whole thing, trying bracket

2034
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,600
Speaker 2: trade one our bracket right, because he had Arizona one

2035
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: in the whole thing. But I think as far as points, no,

2036
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,839
Speaker 2: none of us picked. Well, no, somebody has the Huskies

2037
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: somebody in.

2038
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: And no Mike Mike Madness. Uh he won as far

2039
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: as everyone in this room though, gotchyall I'm a I'm

2040
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: at five, Maull at seven, and damars.

2041
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm at eleven.

2042
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: That's fine, there's eleven. I just want to make there's

2043
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: eleven people, and it's eleven. There's eleven people in the

2044
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: brackt It's not like she's eleven twenty five people. So

2045
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: if I sack, so the peach. Yeah, but Peach picked

2046
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: Kansas to go all the way, so you know he

2047
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: didn't you did that shit.

2048
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: I picked Houston go all the way.

2049
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: I had Houston in the final four, so like, I

2050
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: didn't think that was that crazy of a take at

2051
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, but shout out to Mike Madness. Please

2052
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: d m us or or email us. We can send

2053
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: you some merch for winning Nico Harrison's burner as well.

2054
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: You got second place, hit us up so we could

2055
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: send you some merch. Trey, you're part of the team.

2056
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: So no, and yeah, damn Trey fell a third. Yeah,

2057
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: I feel like he had Arizona winning, right mm hmm, okay,

2058
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: but but Mike had Michigan win it. So that was

2059
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: the deciding factor with that. But it was it was

2060
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 1: fun to do through the bracket with the office pool. Yeah,

2061
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: of course we got smoke by the listeners. But you

2062
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: know it's all right, man, it happens, Man, get it done, though,

2063
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: baby D knows bull being in the last place is

2064
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: just the irony of I was.

2065
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 3: Doing better than everybody at the beginning, and in my show.

2066
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 2: That's how it usually happens after the second day smoked,

2067
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 2: smoke cooked.

2068
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: But that shit gets so confusing because I was tied

2069
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 1: with Tray for number one for a while, and then

2070
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: I went into like the tab of group forecast and

2071
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I had a zero percent chance of winning. Like once

2072
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 1: I looked through everything and this was second, I was like,

2073
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm time for first zero percent chances of

2074
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: I think Demeris, who was in last, had a higher

2075
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 1: percent chance of winning than I did.

2076
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my bracket was like the third you get.

2077
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 1: What, I get more pussy than y'all.

2078
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 2: So don't matter.

2079
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's I mean, that is true. That's

2080
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: a fact. It always goes back to that too, Like

2081
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: no matter what you're talking about, like do I get

2082
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: bitches though?

2083
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 2: Do I get I get bitches?

2084
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: Yes or no? You answer for me, like you tell

2085
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: me yes or no. That's my that's my favorite debater.

2086
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: The yes or no, yes or no gives you a fact.

2087
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with the conversation yes or no. Yes, right,

2088
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 1: that's I'm all as fuck. No, I've never done that,

2089
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: I say, y'all get more bitches you yes or no? No, no, no,

2090
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: yes or no.

2091
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 3: You'll ask a question that has nuanced and be like

2092
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 3: yes or no.

2093
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm like, it's.

2094
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 2: Not should be yes or no. Y'all be making it

2095
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 2: too much nuance.

2096
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: It be yes or no. But that's what they're teaching,

2097
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: like those debate classes, like just get people to say

2098
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 1: yes and when it place the mind that you're saying

2099
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: something correct, like we all right, we agree this skuy's

2100
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: blue yes or no? Like yeah, So anything I say

2101
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: after this has to be trus yes, yeah, exactly exactly.

2102
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 1: You got it. Debate classes are just telling us the

2103
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,759
Speaker 1: world is stupid and we're easily manipulated. All right, well,

2104
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: we'll talk to y'all soon. You're on your way to

2105
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: LA right, yes, as of right now, I'm in there.

2106
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: You're in the air, so save trip, save travels, have fun,

2107
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: good luck on the shoot. Hopefully you got a lot

2108
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: of you know, beautiful women that come out and want

2109
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: to be extras in the video and FaceTime me if

2110
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 2: you need me to kind of like ve.

2111
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: Added to the added to the treatment, because there's sketches

2112
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: in the in the just facetiming. Bro, I help you

2113
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: with that.

2114
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 2: All right, We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed.

2115
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 2: I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger Peace.