1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Karen, the markets begin this Thursday. In record territory. The 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: S and P five hundred closed above fifty three hundred 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: for the first time, and the Dow is less than 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: one hundred points from the forty thousand plateau. The Catalyst 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: a report showing inflation slowed that reinforced bets. The Federal 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Reserve will cut rates as early as September. Luka Paulini, 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: chief strategistic Pictet Asset Management, says stocks may be overvalued. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: We see value now, for example, in bones because you 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: have a peak in US growth inflation. Yeah, stick keep 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: a probably trending down. The Fed is cut in rates, 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: so we see value bones, and if you look at equities, 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: to be honest, the value is more in Europe and Japan. 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Pigtet Asset Management's Luca Paulini notes the SMP five hundreds 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: at its twenty third record of the year. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Now more on that market moving CPI report. Nathan A 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: measure of underlying inflation cooled in April for the first 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: time in six months will the figures may offer the 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Fed some hope that inflation is resuming its downward trend. 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Officials like Minneapolis Fed President Neil cash Curry want to 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: see additional readings to start cutting interest rates. 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: How much downward pressure is monetary policy putting on the economy, 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 4: that's an unknown. We don't know for sure, and that 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: tells me we probably need to sit here for a 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: while longer until we figure out where underlying inflation is 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: headed before we jump to any conclusions. 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Minneapolis Fed President Neil cash Curry, who does not vote 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: on policy this year, says he's keeping a close eye 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: on the housing market and its role in inflation. 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Now, one other note about that CPI report care the 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: Labor Department inadvertently published critical data thirty minutes early. While 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: there were no obvious signs the early publication moved markets, 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: the episode is likely to prompt a close look at 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: the dissemine of data that has implications for global asset 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: prices and Fed policy. 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, we now turned to politics and a crucial 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: meeting between two world leaders Chinese President she and Vladimir 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Putin meeting earlier in Beijing, and as the war with 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Ukraine enters its third year. Xi Jinping signals to putin 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: ties between the two nations remained strong. We get more 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: from a bloombergs er Bekachun Wilkins in Hong Kong. 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 5: Well, there's certainly one another's most important allies when it 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 5: comes to this bigger geopolitical agenda of building the so 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: called multipolar world, pushing back on what they say as 47 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: sort of the US hegemony. But of course since Ladimir 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: Putin's invasion of Ukraine, there has been a deeper, much 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: deeper imbalance in that relationship. Russia has needed China economically 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 5: far more than it has ever done in the past. 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: And Bloomberger Bekachun Wilkins, reporting from Hong Kong, China Central Television, 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: says she said his nation was quote ready to work 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: with Russia as a good neighbor, friend and partner with 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: mutual trust. 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Well as for domestic politics, Karen, the debates are set 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: between President Biden and former President Donald Trump, even before 57 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: they are officially their party's nominees. The two front runners 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: have agreed to face off twice, first on CNN June 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: twenty seventh, then on ABC September tenth. Bloomberg Politics contributor 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Rick Davis says President Biden will need to come prepared. 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 6: Donald Trump is a disruptive guy. He knows how to 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 6: take control of these situations. He's got enough capacity to 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 6: really be a disruptive force and something like a debate 64 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 6: and General Joe Biden, I mean, come on, I mean, 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: he's a dignified guy who tries to play by the rules, 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 6: even if there are no rules to be played by. 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: The Republican strategist Rick Davis says the president will have 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: to throw out the traditional rule book. Both campaigns rejected 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: the rules and schedule of the non partisan Commission on 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Presidential Debates, which has handled these events since nineteen eighty eight. 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: In the meantime, Nathan Trump will be in a courtroom 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: as his hush money trial continues in New York. The 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: prosecution's star and witness will once again be grilled by 74 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Trump's defense team, and we get the latest from Bloomberg 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Law host Jun Grosso In New York. 76 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 7: Michael Cohen will be back on the witness stand today 77 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 7: for more cross examination by Trump's attorney, who will continue 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 7: to attack his credibility. Cohen is the prosecution's final witness. 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 7: Trial is not in session tomorrow because Trump is attending 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 7: his son's high school graduation. The defense has not yet 81 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 7: said whether they'll put on a case or whether Trump 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 7: will take the witness stand in his own defense. In 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 7: New York, June Grosso Bloomberg Radio. 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Okay, June, thank you. Back to markets now. We're watching 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: shares of Chubb. They're up nine and a half percent 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: in early trading thanks to an investment by Warren Buffett 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Moore from Bloomberg. 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 8: Stug Krisner Berkshire unveiled a stake in insurer Chubb. It's 89 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 8: valued at six point seven billion dollars. Berkshire made the 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 8: disclosure in the filing on Wednesday. Now, the conglomerate has 91 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 8: been building this stake in Chubb since twenty twenty three, 92 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 8: but it hadn't been previously reported since the SEC allowed 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 8: Berkshire to keep it confidential. Even so, separate quarterly filing 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 8: showed Berkshire's equity stakes in banks, insurance, and finance companies 95 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 8: were growing while the firm was pulling back in other industries, 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 8: including consumer products. Chubb is one of the largest property 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 8: casualty insurers in the US, operating in fifty four countries. 98 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 8: Globally in New York, iimem Doug Prisoner Bloomberg Radio. 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: All right, Doug, thank you. Chares A Cisco also on 100 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the rise. They're of four and a half percent. The 101 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: company gave a solid sales and profit forecast for the 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: current quarter. And let's say that indicates customers are beginning 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: to invest in their computer networks again. 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: Well us for the meme stocks that have been rallying 105 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: this week, Karen, that looks like it could be fizzling. 106 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: Let's get an update now from Bloomberg's John Tucker. 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 9: John, and if in gamestaff felt nineteen percent yesterday, AMC 108 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 9: sent twenty percent after that movie theater chain took advantage 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 9: of the stock rally to reduce its dat a slide, 110 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 9: erasing roughly three billion dollar dollars in market value. Between 111 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 9: the two. The stocks at more than doubled over the 112 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 9: first two days of the week. AMC and game Stop 113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 9: are among the top ten securities bought by retail investors 114 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 9: earlier this week, with fifty one million and sixteen million 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 9: dollar daily inflows. But Ben Ladler, Global Market Strategists at 116 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 9: E Toro says the conditions that drove the surge and 117 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 9: the meme stocks back in two thousand and one are 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 9: no longer present this time around. For instance, the number 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 9: of call options outstanding in game Stop, that's just a 120 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 9: fraction of its peak three years ago. And in the 121 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 9: pre market AMC down twelve percent. Game Stop is down 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 9: sixteen percent. John Tuncker, Bloomberg Radio. 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: All right, John, thanks, and it's time now for a 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: look at some of the other stories making news in 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: New York and around the world. And for that we're 126 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, good Morning, Good morning. 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 10: Karen Slovaki Is populist Prime Minister Robert Fico was shot 128 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 10: multiple times and severely wounded after a political event and 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 10: hand LoVa. After the attempted assassination, doctors fought for his 130 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 10: life for several hours on the fifty nine year old 131 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 10: pro Russian Slovaki Is Defense Minister Robert Kellanak says that 132 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 10: there's no doubt that this was a politically politically motivated 133 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 10: situation behind the shooting. 134 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 11: We're just talking about the level of them, Chrissy, both 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 11: capability to understand each other, to accept the other opinion, 136 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 11: and not only one is that good one. 137 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 10: The deputy Prime Minister said he believes Fico will survive. 138 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 10: The Supreme Court has ordered Louisiana to hold this year's 139 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 10: election using a House map that includes a second, mostly 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 10: black district. The ruling puts on hold a lower courts 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 10: ruling that found the map to be illegal gerrymandering. Loyola 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 10: Law professor and former federal prosecutor Lorie Levinson, this. 143 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 12: Is a much disputed ruling because, in fact down below 144 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 12: there are questions about whether race should be used in 145 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 12: redistricting and whether in the long run, this might protect 146 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 12: some Republican districts. As it is set forth now, many 147 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 12: people see this as a victory for Democrats, who will 148 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 12: be able to likely pick up another seat in Louisiana. 149 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 10: Former federal prosecutor Lorie Levinson says the justices were acting 150 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 10: on emergency appeals by state Republican officials and black voters. 151 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 10: Texas officials say a barge hit a bridge in Galveston, Texas, 152 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 10: spilling fuel oil into the water and shutting down the 153 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 10: only road connecting Galveston and Pelican Island. Galveston County Judge 154 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 10: Mark Henry. 155 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: The fuel oil seeping into the Inner Coastal Waterway calls 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: him to shut down the Inner Coastal Waterway, so we 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: want to get that cleaned up and get that navigable 158 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: watering back open as quick as can. 159 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 10: Last year, the Federal Highway Administration's National Bridge Inventory rated 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 10: the Pelican Island Causeway Bridge poor. The Biden Administration is 161 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 10: initiating policies that it says will help foster a deeper 162 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 10: domestic supply chain for a solar panel. It comes after 163 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 10: please from the US manufacturers confronting a surge of terror 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 10: free imports. The measures announced early today include expanding tariffs, 165 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 10: tax policy guidance, and promises of heightened vigilance for signs 166 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 10: of unfair trade. Global News twenty four hours a day 167 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 10: and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm 168 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 10: Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Karen. 169 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 170 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Scores update with John Stashauer and John Good morning. 171 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 13: Good morning, Karen. Safe to say the slow start to 172 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 13: Aaron Judges season is over. Last two weeks, He's raised 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 13: his average seventy seven points. In Minnesota. Judge had three 174 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 13: doubles after a first inning homer that traveled four hundred 175 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 13: and sixty seven feet. Yankees bind Marcus Stroman made a 176 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 13: ten of the last thirteen that shut out the Twins 177 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 13: four to nothing. The Mets have lost five and six, 178 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 13: all three so far this week with the Phillies, who 179 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 13: are in MLB Best thirty one and thirteen. The Phils 180 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 13: one ten to five. Rangers Suarez is now eight to zero. 181 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 13: Red Sox and Nationals lost. Giants beat the Dodgers Orioles 182 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 13: one on an Natlie Rutchman walk off homer. Celtics are 183 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 13: in the NBA's East Finals for the third straight year. 184 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 13: The under man Cleveland cas again without three top players, 185 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 13: including Donovan Mitchell, gave Boston trouble before falling one thirteen 186 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 13: ninety eight, and the Celts win the series four to one. 187 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 13: Dallas goes up three to two with a one oh 188 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 13: four ninety two win at Oklahoma City. Dallas Stars lost 189 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 13: at home to Colorado five to three. Stars still lead 190 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 13: three to two and the Rangers still lead three to two, 191 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 13: but a loss tonight at Carolina means the series they 192 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 13: once led three to nothing, It's going back to the 193 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 13: Garden for a game seven. NFL schedule is out. Giants 194 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 13: will open up with a home game against Minnesota. They're 195 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 13: going to Munich November tenth to play Carolina, and the 196 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 13: Jets are going to London October sixth to face Jacksonville. 197 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 13: Three favorites for the PGA Championship that begins today in Louisville, 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 13: world number one Scotti Scheffler, who's red hot, Brooks Koepka, 199 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 13: who last year won the PGA for the third time, 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 13: and Rory McElroy, his last major championship was at Valhalla 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 13: a decade ago. 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 14: I think this is a golf course that allows you 203 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 14: to play with freedom. It's a big golf course. The 204 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 14: carridors are wide, not too dissimilar to last week at 205 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 14: quil Hollow, so you can open your shoulders up a 206 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 14: little bit off the tee and then you know, try 207 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 14: to take your chances from there. 208 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 13: Rory won that tournament last Sunday, and Charlotte also won 209 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 13: the team event the week before. Bloomberg Radio live PGA 210 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 13: coverage today starting at four John Stash. They were Bloomberg 211 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 13: Sports can here get Nathan. 212 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 10: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XM 213 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 10: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 214 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 10: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 215 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Wall Street heads into this 216 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: Thursday with stocks in record territory once again, with the 217 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: S and P five hundred now above the fifty three 218 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: hundred level for the first time. Cooler than expected April 219 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: inflation data are firming up a lot of bets that 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: the Fed could start cutting interest rates maybe late in 221 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: the next quarter. It's bringing Sema Shaw for some market 222 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: analysis now. Seema's the chief global strategist at Principal Asset Management. Seema, 223 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: good morning. Are you changing your stock out look after 224 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: what we saw in CPI? 225 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 15: Good morning. No. We have been risk on since January. 226 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 15: We've maintained that even if you had a bit of 227 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 15: a pullback in April, and the reason is that although 228 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 15: the market has been pushing back, pushing out the expectations 229 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 15: for rate cuts, I think the fundamentals, even if you 230 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 15: were not to get rate cuts this year, the fundamentals 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 15: for the economy are still so strong and that certainly 232 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 15: implies that AND's growth is going to remain pretty solid 233 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 15: and that should continue to mean that stocks are going 234 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 15: to be boosted through the rest of Yes. It didn't 235 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 15: really change anything for us. 236 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: Well, I wonder how you interpret this inflation data. Is 237 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: it the start of a new trend, is it more 238 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: of a bump in the road. 239 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 13: What do you think? 240 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: So? 241 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 15: I think it's difficult at this point to make any 242 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 15: kind of conclusions from single data points. I mean, what 243 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 15: we're looking at is as we look through the remainder 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 15: of twenty twenty four and into twenty five, we do 245 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 15: expect to see a down shift in economic growth. But 246 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 15: that's important though. I'm using them a downshift because we 247 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 15: are not expecting recession. I wouldn't even really put it 248 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 15: as much of a low down. It's just where you're 249 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 15: seeing growth revert back to trent and if that's correct, 250 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 15: then really you should see inflation pressures trend somewhat lower. 251 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 15: We're not expecting the return to the two percent level, 252 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 15: but we do think there'll be sufficient comfort for the 253 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 15: Fed to convince them to start cutting rate late in 254 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 15: twenty twenty four. 255 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: Late in twenty twenty four, the market starting to price 256 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: in September. Is that kind of where you are? 257 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: It is? 258 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 15: So, actually, after the April sort of the previous CPI 259 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 15: pro we came into the year. I should say expecting 260 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 15: three cuts, one in June, September, and then December. And 261 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 15: then after the run of three Hottan expected inflation numbers, 262 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 15: we did shift the forecast to one cut in September 263 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 15: and one in December. I didn't have much conviction, to 264 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 15: be honest, about four or five weeks ago in that forecast. 265 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 15: But as the data has been coming through, not just 266 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 15: of course yesterday's data, but the payrolls data, retail sales, 267 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 15: consumer confidence, I have got a bit more conviction that 268 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 15: September is going to be the start day. 269 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: So you don't have any concern then that the stocks 270 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: might be overvalued at the levels that they're at right now. 271 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: Where do you see valuations at this point? 272 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 15: I mean it depends how you're looking. So if you 273 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 15: look across the world, then yes, US valuations are definitely 274 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 15: the most stretched. But we are still expecting decent earnings growth. Now, 275 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 15: are we going to see this kind of run that 276 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 15: we saw in the first two months of the year. 277 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 15: Probably not. We do think that EXITIS can probably eke 278 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 15: out another five or ten percent rally from here, but 279 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 15: that's pretty solid and it should mean that as long 280 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 15: as it's supported by continued earnings group against that economic 281 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 15: backdrop that we have in our forecast, that should mean 282 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 15: that valuations can still be supported. And it's remember for 283 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 15: it's important for investors to remember that valuations they give 284 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 15: you a direction for long term directions in the market, 285 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 15: but it doesn't really necessarily change the short term aspects. 286 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 15: So as long as you've got solid earnings grope, as 287 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 15: long as you've got earnings what you are doing well, 288 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 15: the market can continue to perform pretty well. 289 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: Can earnings continue to do well even in a kind 290 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: of a slowing earnings growth pattern if we continue to 291 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: see a slow down in consumers. 292 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 15: So consumer spending has been extraordinarily strong over the last 293 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 15: couple of years, and you are starting to see some 294 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 15: strains emerging. That's mainly in the lower income consumer side. 295 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 15: So we do think that you're going to see at 296 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 15: growth remaining positive. You could see a bit of a 297 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 15: slow down, I guess, But that means I mean guess 298 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 15: that relates directly to the idea that you're not going 299 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 15: to see the exty market gains of twenty twenty three 300 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 15: or spending of January and February. This is going to 301 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 15: be a more modest one, but something which is a 302 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 15: little bit more sustainable, to be honest, for the action market, only. 303 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: About thirty seconds left. Where is your best opportunity right now? 304 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 15: So look, there's a couple, but I think within exuity, 305 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 15: we still think that the US is looking decent. We 306 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 15: continue to light the large cap space, but actually more 307 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 15: and more so, international equities are looking good. 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