1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Surveillance. European politics are very fractioned, very 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: febrol at the moment, and the UK vote to leave 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: that's going to make all of those problems much much worse. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: When the Fed rises, right, it has a huge impact 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: on the rest of the world. It's actually very negative 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: for emerging markets. When the dollar goes up, the rest 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: of the world's indebtedness effectively goes up. That means it's 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: that much harder to pay back their debt. Bloomberg Surveillance 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: your link to the world of economics, finance and investment 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Good morning. It is seven am on 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: Wall Street twelve noon in the North Sea off the 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: UK coast where the red crude they're pumping is now 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: at a six month high. Rent right now going for 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: forty eight eighty two percent higher on the day West 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Texas twelve. That is a two percent gain as well 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: on the day. Goldman upgrading its outlook. Phil Burliger on 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Surveillance TV earlier saying Goldman is getting its numbers wrong. 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: A deal in the oil business today to e MP 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Companies combining Range Resources to buy Memorial Resource and All Stock. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Deal valued at four point four billion dollars, and we 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: have just had a headline crossing the Bloomberg terminal. Ghanett 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: is boosting it's all cash offer for Tribune Publishing to 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars a share. Tribune has not been enthusiastic about 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: that offer. Earlier. Fiser acquiring Anacore Pharmaceuticals today five point 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: two billions, so merger Monday. That's the news event of 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: the day, but so far unable to boost shares. SMP 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: futures in the US are flat down. Futures are flat down. 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: NASDAK E MANI futures now down to points on the day. 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: That's just under a tenth of a percent. Uh. Many 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: markets closed in Europe today for whit Monday, but encompassing 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: those that are open, the stock six D is down 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: two points half a percent on the day. The curve 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: continues to flatten in the treasury market. Here the two 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: year NO yield is up to seventy seven basis points, 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: the ten year up but less one point seven one. 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: The five year in the belly of the carve comes 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: in at one point to two. The dollar trading lower 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: today sixty one, the year O going for one t 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: the endight six not a lot of change in that 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: whole area. What's interesting is that nothing in Western markets 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: reflecting what happened in China over the weekend. Lending, industrial production, 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: retail sales all missing estimates. Yet Shanghai finished up twenty 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: four points eight tens of eight percent today. Pablo Goldberger's 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: senior strategist for Black Rocks Emerging Markets Dead Team, Pablo, 45 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: where's the panic over the Chinese economy? The panic we 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: saw in January, the panic we saw last August. No, well, 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: the panic is no longer there because the Chinese policy 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: makers has been stimulating the economy U and generated UM 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: better buy around the ability of the economy to growth 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: and spelling some of the fears of hard landing. UM, 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean said that would get you know, as you 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: as you know, some compressed reports about UM, maybe some 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: disconnections between the different parts of the policy making in China. 54 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Someone's look looking for a little less stimulus than was 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: written in a vision. Um, We've got a little bit 56 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: of a softer April data, But I think the risks 57 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: of hard landing in China are not longer with us. 58 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: So does that take one of the things holding the 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: fedback off the table and make it more likely that 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: the FED will raise interest rates. Well, I think that 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: takes one of the things that was holding the said. 62 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: But for sure there was basically volatility in international markets 63 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and particularly volatility around the currency in China. But other 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: things have been added to the said, like the continuous 65 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: witness of the of the U S economy me UM 66 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and a lack of inflation in the US. So maybe 67 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: the factor's hole in the FET behind or the FED 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: put have change, but not necessarily UM. The willingness for 69 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the FED to raise rates in the short term have increased. 70 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, Michael McKee and Tom King Bloomer Surveillance 71 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: this morning brought you by Investo looking for investment views, 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: experience experts of just to click away, go to investco 73 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: dot com slash us to subscribe to the investco blog 74 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: and follow at Investo US on Twitter at I m 75 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: V E. S c O at Investo US on Twitter, 76 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: Public Goldberg with US with black Rock Publo. Should we 77 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: invest in e M. I'm confused by this interview, the 78 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: interview and that there's a lot of economics, but I 79 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: want to know what to do with my money. What 80 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: do I actually do with my money in emerging markets. 81 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I think that at this point fixing come is a 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: very good opportunity. We have very low yields around the world, 83 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: with the prospect that this very low yields will continutely 84 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: very low UM. When we discussed, you know a few 85 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: times in the last few months, I was insisted in 86 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: the idea that the search for yield towards emerging market 87 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: was going to continue. But what we needed to have 88 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: was a little bit of reaction, the reduction of the 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: volatility that we had around these markets. And as was 90 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: coming before in this interview, uh steamless in China, UM, 91 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: the finish of Chinese, change in the effectual regime towards 92 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: a more um, a clear kind of afectual regime, the 93 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: risks of processor in the US movement away. Those are 94 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: all good factors bringing investors towards emerging markets. Emerging markets 95 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: have been so responsive to what the central banks of 96 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: the world have been doing. How much confidence can you 97 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: have in what the are fixed income markets are going 98 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: to be like? If we're clear yet what the FEND 99 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: is going to do, what the ECB is going to do, 100 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: And of course there's always the Bank of Japan risk 101 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: well clearly, Um, you know, the whatever the CV the 102 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: Bank of Japan do is not going to be tightening 103 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: monetary policy. They're going to be even easy and more 104 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: or staying put. And in the case of the said 105 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: it's going to be staying put or tighten a little 106 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: bit monetary policy, or the course of this year. Any 107 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: of these configurations of scenarios are benign for the search 108 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: for yield. Um. What we needed to be sure is 109 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: that we were reducing stead of the terror risks that 110 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: were affecting appetite for emerging markets, particularly in the last 111 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: quarter of last year and in January of this year. 112 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: And and we're pretty confident that these risks have participated 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: to a large extent. We're not saying that, you know, 114 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: the markets are not might not become volatile again, but 115 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: the levels of pricing that we have in this some 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: of these situities, given uh the kind of income that 117 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: is presented in other alternatives in the fixing comp world, 118 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: make emerging market a very good risk reward opportunity. What 119 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, Please go ahead. I'm just gonna ask what's 120 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: the risk underlying that? The economic fundamental risk in emerging 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: market countries underlying this, Yes, you can search for Yale, 122 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: but is there any danger you'll have the rug pulled 123 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: out from you locally? That is a very good point. 124 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: And and and here is where we are also a 125 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: little bit more confident that we were in the past. 126 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: There's two to three important drivers in the fundamental side 127 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: and emerging market. One UH is commodity prices. And you know, 128 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: we can discuss exactly where all should go UM, but 129 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: we might agree that the chances of all going below 130 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: thirty dollars of arrel are various swam right now because 131 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: everything that has happened on the supply side, So we 132 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: are a little bit more comforted by a firmer range 133 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: for UM oil prices. UM. Second, I think this China 134 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: stimulus takes one important risk that is harleming in China 135 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: transmitted to the rest of emerging markets. And this will 136 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: allow evirgin markets central banks current rates when they were 137 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: actually more in the defensive. We're not saying that we're 138 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: not saying that all the troubles are away for for 139 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: emerging markets and they're going to go back to the 140 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: same growth that we have ten years ago. But I 141 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: think that we might start to turn the corner on 142 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: this continuous slowdown in this economy, just very quickly. Last 143 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: point is policy risk. We have had a couple of 144 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: these idiosocratic events and emerging market making has more positive 145 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: events in Argentina, events in Brazil, a little bit of 146 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: the title of monetary policy preventive in nature in Mexico, 147 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of improvements that we've see in terms 148 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: of growth in Turkey and in Russia. Again, it does 149 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: not necessarily need to get a perfect world for this 150 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: ASCLA to perform given what we're seeing in the public. 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Public over with black Rock this 152 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: morning might just out in the last hour and it's interesting. 153 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: And also money where Mouth is donating seven point five 154 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: million dollars to New Orleans into the children, the students 155 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: of New Orleans. This is JP Morgan Chase and Bloomberg LP. 156 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: This is Michael Bloomberg and James Diamond writing in Bloomberg 157 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: View today on this amazing conundrum which Mike is is 158 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: actually almost a follow onto the community college debate of 159 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: thirty and forty years ago, which is educating kids and 160 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: jump starting kids education on the right track, on a 161 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: skills school track. You know, the jobs are there for 162 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: people at the friend and the education is there, but 163 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: it's the skills in the middle that aren't being taught 164 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: to blue collar kids who who may not go to 165 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: college or or or may not um you know, or 166 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: but would be above the level of entry level you know, 167 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: uh jobs. They're they're being taught what they needed to 168 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: know there. And Jeff Sex, Yeah, Jeff Sex with an 169 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: entire book on this from Columbia University, which is so 170 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: many of us, particularly older, are used to the uh, 171 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: the the community college skills set debate. And here we 172 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: have JP Morgan and Bloomberg trying to take it further. 173 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: And the incubator for this is New Orleans. What Mitch 174 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Landrow is doing down there as well, I'll get that 175 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: out on social here Michael R. Bloomberg and James Diamond 176 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: writing for Bloomberg view on the school skills schools aren't 177 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: teaching button must We should course point out that Mr 178 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg is the majority owner of Bloomberg Gulp, that which 179 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: I believe replaces the tubes that make Bloomberg Radio go 180 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: so well. 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