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Speaker 1: Right, Welcome here.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, March third, and we are eleven games

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Speaker 2: into spring training. A lot of the regulars are now

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Speaker 2: at the World Baseball Classic, so we're getting a look

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Speaker 2: at some prospects. Carlos LeGrande has been the talk of

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Speaker 2: camp with his triple digit fastball. Elmer Rodriguez looks like

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Speaker 2: he's ready to step into a big league rotation.

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Speaker 3: And Ryan weathers, well, we told you so.

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Speaker 2: I got Ryan Garcia from Fireside Yankees here tonight to

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Speaker 2: talk about all of it coming up next plus World

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Speaker 2: Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 3: This is Pins Drive territory. Just wanted to talk, that's all.

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Speaker 1: We're the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 2: How's it going? Welcome back, Welcome back, Ryan. I want

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Speaker 2: to get right to it. Are you ready to overreact

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Speaker 2: to basically ten games of Yankees baseball?

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Speaker 3: There's nothing more important than the Grapefruit League. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Let's do yeah, man.

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Speaker 2: I love this time of year. I love watching the

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Speaker 2: young guys get a chance to play, especially you know

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Speaker 2: when the rest of the team is away at the WBC.

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Speaker 2: I say rest of the team, or when we're missing

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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys, so that means there's more reps,

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Speaker 2: more opportunities for these prospects that could impact the team.

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Speaker 2: But everybody's talking about Carlos Legrone is one hundred and

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Speaker 2: two mile an hour fastball. We got Spencer Jones hitting

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Speaker 2: absolute nukes. He's been super exciting to watch. And we've

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Speaker 2: got Oma Rodriguez Cruz looking good. Ryan Weather's looking good.

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Speaker 2: Yankees won again today. They continue to be just on

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Speaker 2: fire this spring. So Ryan, should we start with the

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Speaker 2: talk of camp Carlos Legrone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. I'm excited, man.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Carlos Legrone might be the best fastball

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Speaker 2: that I have seen from a Yankees prospect ever. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you think about guys like Delan Betansis, you know, Cam

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Speaker 2: Schlittler obviously last year hard throwers, but Legrone is on

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Speaker 2: another level, man, one hundred and two who Plus I

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Speaker 2: want to make the case that he should pitch out

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Speaker 2: believe that he's a front line starter, and he might

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Speaker 2: him to be on the opening day roster in the

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Speaker 2: bullpen and by the end of the season being a

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Speaker 2: lights out relief pitcher, like a Mason Miller style relief pitcher. Now,

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Speaker 2: just to set the stage for this, I saw Mariano

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Speaker 2: Rivera come up as a setup man and turn nine

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Speaker 2: inning games into six inning games. I saw Dellen Betanzas

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Speaker 2: robertson Michael King. Those guys who started off as starting

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Speaker 2: pitchers and then transformed themselves into elite relief pitchers can

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Speaker 2: really change a game. And I know he's got a

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Speaker 2: full pitch mix, but he's got an elite relief pitcher fastball,

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Speaker 2: and I think the Yankees should start the season with

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Speaker 2: him pitching in low leverage situation and then by a

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Speaker 2: Memorial Day or so, he should be pitching the seventh

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, Well, I think the best version

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Speaker 4: of the New York Yankees when they get to the postseason,

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Speaker 4: because I think they'll get there, will include Carls Lebronje.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think it's unreasonable to say, Well, because

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Speaker 4: of that, he should be on the opening day roster.

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Speaker 4: Last year showed how important it is to when every game.

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Speaker 4: But the reason I think they should keep him in

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Speaker 4: the rotation role and that would mean a demotion to

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Speaker 4: the minor leagues. Is because the upside here, I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's a chance he ends up being a true game one,

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Speaker 4: The thing that just blows me away about this guy

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Speaker 4: is you're not under You're not overselling the fastball at all.

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Speaker 4: He moves the ball along the pitch plot really well.

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Speaker 4: The change up's awesome. I just think the pitchability gets

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Speaker 4: We think of hard throwers bad command as Oh, this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fastball is obviously incredible, but you know, throwing

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Speaker 2: Thing looks like it hits an invisible like warp bubble

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Speaker 2: think that's the primary reason that I want him in

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Speaker 2: they exist right now in a spot of needs, and

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Speaker 2: that to me doesn't close the door on him become

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Speaker 2: and he threw the most important game of the Yankees

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Speaker 2: I want this guy pitching in the major leagues. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm nuts.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think you're nuts at all.

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Speaker 4: I think he needs to be in the big leagues

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Speaker 4: it's his stuff or his command. I think that this guy,

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Speaker 4: Grandees dominating in Triple A, call him up. Let him

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Speaker 4: And I think the biggest thing with Legron Hay that

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Speaker 3: I think it's his best pitch.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'll go as far as say because it's it's

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Speaker 4: That appeals to me. On the note of what you

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Speaker 4: to put him in. Paul Skins throws his four seam

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Speaker 4: Kind of tells you where the sport has gone, the

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Speaker 4: which I mean, could you imagine a bullpen setting. You

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Speaker 3: He just goes, here's a ninety five mile product change

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Speaker 2: It's insane, It's insane. I can't wait to watch the

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about another pitcher that I kind of have

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Speaker 2: Now you could also make the case that he could

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Speaker 2: be a Ramiro Mendoza type, a ground ball pitcher in

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty innings last year, only three home

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Speaker 2: every time I've seen him. I just love sinker ballers.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to hit a three run home run when

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Speaker 2: you're hitting a ground ball the shortstop Ryan. That's what

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Speaker 2: I love about these sinker ballers. I would like to

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on Elmer Rodriguez and what you've seen so far, I.

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Speaker 4: Fully agree that he should be the first man up.

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Speaker 4: Like if it's between him and Yardborough, somebody goes down,

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Speaker 4: I'll I'll go with Elmer. I know we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: That's good for him. What if he dominates, that's great

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Speaker 4: He also can throw a right on right change of pitch,

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Speaker 4: it's better than his four seen fastball. He's a pitcher's pitcher.

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Speaker 4: Carlos le Gronde is a rock star, and Elmer Rodriguez

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Speaker 3: If that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: One guy is gonna blow you ay, shocking, wild crazy.

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Speaker 3: The other guy he's he's an artist. He's a craftsman.

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Speaker 4: It's not you know, this head bopping head, you know,

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Speaker 3: But it's beautiful still, and I think.

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Speaker 4: It's so fun to have these two kind of one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me think of the And I know

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Speaker 2: this didn't really work out well. Back in seven, the

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Speaker 2: Kennedy was seen as like that artist. Yankees traded him away.

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Speaker 2: He won twenty one games. I'll never forgive them for that.

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Speaker 2: I love Ian Kennedy. You know, Hughes ended up, you know,

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Speaker 3: He flamed out.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's been a while since we've had

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Speaker 2: Ryan Weathers, and we talked about how if he mixes

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Speaker 2: extremely nasty, and so far he's doing that, but not

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Speaker 2: only that, he's throwing harder Ryan, He's throwing harder. Ryan

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Speaker 2: Weathers looked incredible against the Nationals. His last time out.

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Speaker 2: He went three and two thirds innings, one hit, no runs,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is just so exciting. What are

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. Unfortunately, Hey, let's talk about the

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Speaker 3: Ryan, I don't know about you, but I love the WBC.

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Speaker 2: I love the environments, like the pride of the different countries,

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: I'm Look, I'm unapologetically rooting for Team dr My parents

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Speaker 4: And it's just you have the best players playing. That's

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Speaker 3: Aaron Judge is the best American player in the world.

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Speaker 3: He might be the best player in the world. I

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Speaker 4: No offense to show you, Oh, Tony, I didn't feel

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Speaker 2: This team feels stacked. I mean, it's just a ridiculously

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Speaker 2: All right, we got this first call mentioned you name

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Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going. I was watching the other shows

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Speaker 2: Thanks by I kind of I I kind of think

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say he'll never be a

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Speaker 2: Yankee because I mean, like I said on one of

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Speaker 2: our other podcasts, one day a Rod walked through the door, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that the Yankees can get anybody any season,

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Speaker 2: Juan Soto, John Carlo Stanton, all guys that we never

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Speaker 2: expected to be Yankees and then one day they were.

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Speaker 2: I think Paul Skens could be. It depends again on

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Speaker 2: how the payroll lines up. When he's a free agent,

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Speaker 2: you know who else is bidding. I mean, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be hard to outbid the Dodgers and also the Mets

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Speaker 2: with Steve Cohen. I mean, we'll Cohen go after Tarik's

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Speaker 2: schooble next year. How will that tie things up? I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you had a guess right now, We'll

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Speaker 2: just we'll put this into perpetuity into the universe. Do

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Speaker 2: you think Skeens will ever be a Yankee?

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Speaker 4: Ryan, I usually try to say no to things like this,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, he's gonna be Yankee.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be New York Yankee. Paul Skeens is going

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Speaker 3: to go into the whole famous New York Agents too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll sign up for that one. Alright, we

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Speaker 3: gotta call here.

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Speaker 2: This is Steve from Italy. He always leaves like two

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Speaker 2: or three minutes, but they're always really good. So let's

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Speaker 2: let's go and listen to Steve.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Derek, it's Stephen from Italy calling. I know my

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Speaker 1: calls are always too long. I'm sorry. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to keep this as short as a ten. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do a comparison, not with the current Yankees team

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Speaker 1: and the nineties dynasty, which is kind of unfair. I

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Speaker 1: think we should compare it to a team that had

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Speaker 1: a similar one loss record to last year's, which is

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Speaker 1: a team I grew up watching, which is the nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy New York Yankees, who won ninety three games. Then

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Speaker 1: nobody thought that was a very good team the following year,

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Speaker 1: In fact, it fell back to five hundred and finished fourth.

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Speaker 1: It had finished fourth in sixty nine, but in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy won ninety three and came in second. Just at

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Speaker 1: the Orioles that you were one of the greatest teams ever.

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Speaker 1: So there was never really a Pennant race in the

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Speaker 1: American League East. But if you look trying to compare

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Speaker 1: it right, so I'll be fast, you know which team

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Speaker 1: is better at each position. So Thurman Munson over Austin Wells,

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Speaker 1: no contest, rice In Goldschmid over Danny Kater, Josh Chisholm

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Speaker 1: over Hars Clark, but Gene Michael over Anthony Bolpie, which

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Speaker 1: is not saying much. McMahon better than Drake Kenney certainly,

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Speaker 1: but Kenny was not very good. Roy White and Coldy Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to quote a draw. Bobby Mercer better than

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Speaker 1: Trent Grisham, and Aaron Judge one hundred thousand times better

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Speaker 1: than I can't even remember who played right field that

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Speaker 1: year because it was kind of a nobody in the rotation.

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Speaker 1: Freed over Mel Stottlemeyer, but Stottlemeyer was good. Fitz Peterson

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Speaker 1: over Carlos Rodun. I think Stan Bohnson probably better than

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Speaker 1: Louise Heal and in the Battle of Rookies, Cam Schuzler

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Speaker 1: better than Steve Coin, Lennie McDaniel might be slightly better

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Speaker 1: than Bednar. The rest of the bullpens pretty much even,

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Speaker 1: sort of unreliable. So if you take Aaron Judge, owe,

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Speaker 1: the teams are pretty even. That was not a great team,

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Speaker 1: but it did win ninety three games. Last year's Yankees

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Speaker 1: won ninety four, so you know, we had Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 1: It's a better team than in nineteen seventy probably, but

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Speaker 1: you know, if anything happens in the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 1: But I think that that's just there's a thought experiment,

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Speaker 1: you know, interesting and a fair comparison than comparing it

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Speaker 1: with the great teams of the nineties or even the seventies.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the coll Steve. I have to admit, I don't

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Speaker 2: know a lot about the nineteen seventy Yankees, but he

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Speaker 2: made some fair comparisons here. But I think what he's

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Speaker 2: getting at is that can the Yankees do better than

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Speaker 2: people are expecting?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, right now, I think Vegas has them at

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Speaker 2: ninety and a half wins, ninety one wins, somewhere around

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Speaker 2: that range. I think I can win ninety five games.

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Speaker 2: I think with the pitching, and if you get an

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Speaker 2: MVP performance out of Judge and maybe somebody steps up.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Jazz just does have his forty forty season. I

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Speaker 2: think ninety five games, don't you. Yeah, I think they

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Speaker 2: definitely could.

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Speaker 4: I mean the thing that works in their favor is

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Speaker 4: that I think their bench is better than most years,

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Speaker 4: and like the rotation depth. If they can get Cole

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Speaker 4: and rodn back healthy, which is an if is pretty

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Speaker 4: darn good, Like it's it's really strong. But but to

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Speaker 4: kind of play until the callers point here as well.

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Speaker 3: Could also go wrong.

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Speaker 4: Guys can get hurt, get some regressions here and there,

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Speaker 4: roll some bad outcomes, have some poor lucking close games.

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Speaker 4: A bad bullpen can really kill you in terms of

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Speaker 4: expected wins and actual wins. He saw us with last

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Speaker 4: year's team. Feels like the run differential is way better

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Speaker 4: than what the record suggested. But you've got a bad bullpen.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna lose a lot of one run games. And

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Speaker 4: that's not luck. That's a bad bullpen. So baseball is

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Speaker 4: a weird sport. Man like I I.

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Speaker 3: For the bully. Look, Derek, I'll be right.

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Speaker 4: Here screaming with you. If it's July, the bullpen stinks.

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Speaker 4: Carlsle Grand has got like a two something and the

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Speaker 4: run crazy triple A and they're like, no, we want

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Speaker 4: them to stay a starter.

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Speaker 3: It's like, dude, I don't care. Aaron Judges thirty four

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Speaker 3: do it. So I'll be right there with you, man,

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Speaker 3: We be right there with you, all right, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks to Ryan for joining tonight. Once again, thanks

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Speaker 2: to everybody who called in. I'll be back on Friday

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Speaker 2: night with Frankie and Terrence for a little bit of

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Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic action. Ryan, are you are you gonna

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Speaker 2: be watching the game Friday night?

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Speaker 3: I will be. I'm gonna be all I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: all over the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm pumped. I'm pumped, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, man, Well, it should be fun like subscribe all

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