1 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: What is your reaction to hearing what Donald Trump says 2 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and disgusted. 3 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to talk to the Trump support us 4 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: for a minute. I don't know who you are, and 5 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't know why you like this guy. I think 6 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: what you like about him. He appears to be strong 7 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: when the rest of us are week. He's a very 8 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: successful business man, and he's gonna make everything great. He's 9 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: gonna take all the problems of the world and put 10 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: him in a box and make your life better. That's 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: what he's selling. Here's what you're buying. He's a race baiting, xenophobic, 12 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: religious bigot. He doesn't represent my party. He doesn't represent 13 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: the values that the men and women who wear the 14 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: uniform are fighting for. Because what mister Trump is doing, 15 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: and I don't think he has a clue about anything, 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: He's just trying to get his numbers up and get 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: the biggest. 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: Reaction you can. 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: He's putting our soldiers and diplomats at risk. He's empowering 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: the enemy. In this ban, if it's actually enacted, would 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: take people who had been interpreters who came to our 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: side in a rock in Afghanistan, who under siege in 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: their own countries and basically becomes a death sentence for them. 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: And what mister Trump is doing is undercutting everything we 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: stand for. He's undercutting how you win the war. He's 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: empowering the enemy, and he's putting people at risk or 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: serving our country. Now he's never served going to a 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: military high school. Donald, it's really not military service. You've 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: never warned the uniform. You know how you win this war. 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: You side with people in the faith who reject this 31 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: ideology which is ninety nine percent. And you know how 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: you make America great again? Tell Donald Trump to go 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: to Hill. 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: Wow, that was a then sixty year old Lindsey Graham 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 4: talking about then seven year old Donald Trump and might 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: have the tables have turned? That was twenty fifteen, eleven 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: years ago. Lindsey Graham died, of course, this weekend, Saturday night, 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: aortic dissection, which means the lining for the inside of 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: your orda comes loose from your actual aortic artery. And 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: he died suddenly this weekend. And you know, we're going 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: to go through the wreckage, and we're going to go 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: through the comments, and we're going to go through everything 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 4: that everybody is saying about Lindsey Graham. We're going to 44 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: talk about whether or not you can actually mourn this gentleman, 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: if you even want to call the man from Kentucky gentleman, 46 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: knowing what he has done to America for Donald Trump 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: over the course of the last several years, including the 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: last year and a half where he's really turned up 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: the crazy with Donald Trump. 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: We've also got a Mitch. 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: McConnell's saite and we've also got a New York Times 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: lawsuit that Donald Trump is now sending reporters, sorry's sending 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: FBI to reporters doors and houses for reporting honestly on him. 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: This is dead air. My name is Dean Blundell. That 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: of course is my friend Steve Schmidt. You knew Let's 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 4: just start with Lindsay Graham. You knew him well. Lindsey 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 4: Graham died this weekend a ortic dissection, which we talked about. 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: It was a heart attack fresh from Ukraine. You have 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: been all over it since he passed. 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: Lindsay knew better. He chose worse. 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: It was the piece that you put up prior, just 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 4: after learning that he did pass away. 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: And then of course your last piece. 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: Don't sanitize the Sinner was absolutely spectacular. I need everybody 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: to go and read this piece, Steve Schmidt's substack the warning. 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: It is truly remarkable the way that you've been able 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: to actually talk about this honestly, because this is not 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: a good man, Steve, not a good man at all. 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: No, this is a tragic story. 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 6: And when you watch that video at the front which 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 6: opened our show today, you see very clearly that Lindsey 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 6: Graham understood from the very beginning what Donald Trump was, 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 6: what the danger of Donald Trump was, and he articulated 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 6: it with perfect clarity. I remember talking with Lindsey Graham 75 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 6: outside of NSNBC SAT and I happened to have my 76 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 6: daughter with me, who twelve years ago was ten years 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 6: old and she was a horseback rider, and Lindsey Graham 78 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 6: of course engaged her, knew her name, had met her 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 6: for the first time when she was three for four, 80 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 6: and he promised her that if he became president, that 81 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 6: she could have her. 82 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 5: Horse on the White House law. 83 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 6: I knew Lindsay Graham very well in the way that 84 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 6: you get to know someone in the type of forging 85 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 6: experience which a presidential campaign is at close quarters at 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: the highest level around the candidate on the bus, on 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 6: the plane around the country, the absurdity of. 88 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 5: The late nights and early morning. And I had a million. 89 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 6: Laughs with Lindsey Graham. But as a moral proposition, there 90 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 6: are so many people, and unfortunately a great many of 91 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 6: them are Democratic senators and other pundits and commentators that 92 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 6: share in common the thread of being part of a 93 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 6: police and we've become so hapituated to Donald Trump's malignant narcissism, 94 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 6: his insanity, frankly, that we've become inor to the small 95 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 6: narcissism that's endemic among so many practitioners of politics and 96 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 6: so many people on the media, in the media, on television. 97 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 6: And you see the words I choose to remember about 98 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 6: Lindsey Graham. 99 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: A lot of that this week, A lot of that. 100 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: I choose to remember when I had a white Russian 101 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 6: with him eighteen years ago. Or I choose to remember 102 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 6: when he made me laugh, or when I went on 103 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 6: this codell to this country, or it was this moment 104 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 6: on the campaign trail. 105 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 5: Or it was this or that, And I. 106 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 6: Choose to remember being offered by powerful people with tremendous 107 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 6: platforms is another way of saying, I choose to forget 108 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 6: and not to see and. 109 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 5: Be indifferent towards Alex Predri and Renee Good. 110 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 6: And the child laying on a concrete floor that Lindsay 111 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 6: Graham used to be able to see the dignity of 112 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 6: before he couldn't for the sake of a moral capitulation 113 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 6: to power out of a sense of needyness and relevancy. 114 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 6: And so Lindsey Graham cannot see the humanity in the 115 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 6: Iranian children killed at a school by a US military 116 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 6: defense contracting artificial intelligence program. Lindsey Graham cannot see the 117 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 6: humanity of an innocent child in God's Lindsey Graham was 118 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: a warmonger who stood idly by as a lie became 119 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 6: a contagion in undermined America's civilization by attacking the most 120 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 6: fundamental concept of it, which is that we pick our 121 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 6: leaders through an election process. Lisay Graham had no doubt 122 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: about who won the election. He said, count me out 123 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: after January sixth, and then sometime later says Donald Trump 124 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: is the greatest commander in chief of all. 125 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: Time, second only to God. 126 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: He sat idly by as Trump compared himself to God, 127 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: compared himself to Christ, insisted he be treated like a god. 128 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 6: He submitted to him. He allowed the travesty of America's 129 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 6: abandonment towards Ukraine, and he's being celebrated as an advocate 130 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 6: for Ukraine, an ally of Ukraine. Please, Lindsey Graham is 131 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 6: one of the most despicable men of his age. 132 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: He's a villain, a hollow man. 133 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 6: Of hollow character's life had terrible negative consequences. So when 134 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 6: you say, from a place of tremendous privilege, through this 135 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: soft pronouncement of your own narcissism which places you at 136 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,479 Speaker 6: the center of Lindsey Graham's life, that Lindsay Graham's life's 137 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: meaning in his work devolves to this little piece that 138 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 6: you offer of the story of you with him doing 139 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 6: something at the expense of the vivid imagery of the 140 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 6: African child choking to death and dust and sweat, with 141 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 6: tears streaming down their face, and stomach bile acidic in nature, 142 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 6: gurgling up their esophagus because the US government cut off 143 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 6: aid for the sake of cruelty. 144 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 5: L Vizel. 145 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 6: Talked about the opposite of love was indifference, and Lindsey 146 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 6: Graham was an indifferent man to depravities, and he debased 147 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 6: himself over and over and over again because of this 148 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 6: hollowness that existed in him, this neediness to be in 149 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: the room surely before its death is reported. I can't die. 150 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 6: I have to keep working. And so again we see 151 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 6: man plans God laughs, We see the hubris of the 152 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 6: concept of the indispensable man. 153 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: And now he's gone. And what did he leave behind. 154 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 6: He left wreckage of the mightiest republic in the history 155 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 6: of the world. And so when we see these responses 156 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 6: by so many democratic politicians asserting this soft narcissism, unable 157 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 6: to contextualize the moment in the middle of a great 158 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 6: crisis in this country, it's like a contrasting die and 159 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 6: a cat machine where someone gets an MRI or a 160 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 6: cat scan and it lights up. It tells us something 161 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 6: about the political system. And so many people who are 162 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 6: elected in it, who are coastplay actors when it comes 163 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 6: to their opposition to the greatest obscenities and indecency that 164 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 6: have played out in this country since the end of 165 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 6: Jim Crow. And what it is is a confession of 166 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 6: sorts that they really don't care. What it's all about 167 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 6: is that white Russian on that plane sometime not about 168 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 6: what their friend did. And that's not the case as 169 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 6: I see it in the middle of a crisis. So 170 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: when we think about someone's death, we have to think 171 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: about this man, a public man, through the prism of 172 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 6: his whole life, his whole effect. 173 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: It's dubious, it's terrible. It's not too soon. 174 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 6: To render a judgment because it's a warning to many 175 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 6: a Republican out there. We all share the same fate, 176 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 6: and our number can be up at any time. People 177 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 6: are shocked at Lindsey Graham dying. He was seventy two 178 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 6: years old. He drank too much, he didn't look good, 179 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 6: he was out of shape. Nobody should be falling out 180 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 6: of their chair. Bottom line is, if you're a Republican 181 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 6: member of Congress, time to take a look in the mirror. 182 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 6: Time to think about what's going on in this country. 183 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 6: Because in the end, Lindsey Graham died a maga. He 184 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 6: was a maga by choice through his incandescent cynicism. 185 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 5: There's that Frost poem about the road not taken. 186 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 6: It's broadly misunderstood, and so a lot of people want 187 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 6: to remember Lindsey Graham through a personal prism. Some vestigal 188 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 6: memory of Lindsey Graham along a life path that turned 189 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 6: out to be his road not taken. And it's superfluous, 190 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 6: it's frivolous, and it's demeaning to people who've been hurt 191 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: by this man who deserve an honest reckoning by people 192 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 6: who pretend to understand the seriousness of this moment eleven 193 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 6: years in, particularly when they are leaders in a political 194 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 6: architecture that has lost two out of three elections to 195 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 6: acious fascism. What an appalling moment. The sanctimony and the 196 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 6: false piosies find it repugnant. 197 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, spares All. 198 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you watch people get as close as they 199 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 4: can to the story because they want to be part 200 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: of the story. And that is the narcissism that you 201 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: talk about, right, And to be able to have that conversation, 202 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: your piece that you did today, and I urge you 203 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: to read it. And I know Nancy Mace, we'll get 204 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: to her in just a second. 205 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: She's been just like appeared. Do you think that was 206 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: providential in some way? 207 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 6: She's our We both support her completely in South Carolina. Absolutely, Yeah, 208 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 6: the our Republican candidate you are hope to be the 209 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 6: Republican nominee to face off against the wonderful doctor Annie Andrews. 210 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: You go, nance you go, nance go get it. 211 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: But I want to get to a piece that you 212 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: put in your piece today here at the warning Steve Schmidt. 213 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: At Steve Schmidt is where you can find him on substack. 214 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: It's it's truly brilliant writing where you included that Robert 215 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: Frost poem which was also incredible. I had not read 216 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: that about the roadless traveled, but you point out Trump's 217 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: crude narcissism blinded many to a less reform that are 218 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: endemic with the corrupt media political establishment, which have revealed 219 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: their moral rot with the flurry of sanctimonious statements fluffing 220 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: the greatest fluffer of the last thirty years at the 221 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: hour of his demise. The statements serve as less as 222 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: eulogies and more like contrasting die the courses through human 223 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: veins at cat scan, which you mentioned earlier when you 224 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: were talking about or eulogizing Lindsay Graham. In this case, however, 225 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: the utilopy is illuminating the weak and insincere clique for 226 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: whom the American crisis is kabuki theater. It is the 227 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: cynicism that binds them all together. It is unrelenting, and 228 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: perhaps deep down it's why they so deeply admired Graham, 229 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: whose cynicism was as pure as glacial ice freshly melted. 230 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: His cynicism came in the purest form. What's an insurrection 231 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: between friends? After all, many people have taken to social 232 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: media with shaded rems remembrances of Lindsay Graham in which 233 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: he became was omitted for the remembrance. Lindsey Graham's story 234 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: is complete, The ending is known, and the end it's 235 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: reported that Graham said, I can die now. 236 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: I still I can't die now. 237 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: I still need to do the Russia sanctions, get a 238 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: rand sorted out in Saudi Israeli Saudi normalization. My plans 239 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: and got Man plans, and God's laugh, they say, once again, 240 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: the folly and the hubris, the indispensable man or woman 241 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: staring back at the reflection has been laid bare. Lindsey 242 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: Graham's work is finished in the undiscovered country of new possibilities, 243 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: closed permanently. And then you get into the Robert Frost plump. 244 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: But I gotta ask you, like you know, you bring 245 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: up a great warning for everybody else. It's still in 246 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: Mega bring up a great warning for every proxy of 247 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, everybody that is, you know, the Burgum's and 248 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: the Lawlers, and every single person that you thought had 249 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: a spine which eventually did not. You know, even the 250 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: Nancy Macey's will get to her in just a second. 251 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: As much of a warning as this is for those people. 252 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: I haven't seen anybody other than someone from MAGA do 253 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: any kind of glowing obituary of anything good that Lindsey 254 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: Graham has ever done for any of his constituents or 255 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 4: anybody in the United States of America, with the exception 256 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: of his friendship with John McCain, like not one and 257 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: and if you're a seventy one year old man, right, 258 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: you know, and I'm talking about everybody that's involved with 259 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: Donald Trump now. But as a seventy one year old man, 260 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: I shudder to think that that this he had this 261 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: in him the whole time, or maybe he's over a 262 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: barrel with Donald Trump. I just you know, the stories 263 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: that I've heard about him, save you know, him doing 264 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: anything for his constituents or the American people. As a 265 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 4: sitting senator for twenty three very long years, I have. 266 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: I have not heard a single person come with any 267 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: kind of you know, any any sort of inkling in 268 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: any remembrance of him. That said, I remember when Lindsey 269 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: Graham wasn't a crazy fuck. I remember when Lindsey Graham 270 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: was a normal I haven't seen that once, and I 271 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: don't know if this is his baseline, but what an 272 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: absolute tragedy for him to go out like this, An 273 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: absolute tragedy because of who he thought he was, what 274 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: he also wanted other people to believe that he was, 275 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: and what we all know he is today. Just a tragedy. 276 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: And that's not public service. This guy just destroyed his 277 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 4: entire legacy and died meaninglessly on a floor in his house, 278 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: working for a pedophile, praising a rapist. 279 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: That's what he gave back. 280 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 4: I mean the guy that you saw in that clip 281 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: from twenty fifteen, which you just pointed out, which is 282 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: incredible to watch, right, Like we all have this recency 283 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: bias where we're like, oh my god, Lindsey Graham was 284 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: normal back then, like he had clarity of thought. This 285 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 4: is the demagogue that is Donald Trump. Let me explain 286 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: all of this to you. I don't know why you 287 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 4: love him. Eleven years later, the dude is literally on 288 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 4: his jock on Air Force One, going Cuba's gonna get 289 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: it next. Trump's God the best, He's the best. That 290 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: is so tragic to me on so many levels. 291 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: Steve Lindsey Graham was the master of his fate. 292 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 6: And he gave in to the dark side. It is 293 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 6: not a novel tale, it's not a news story. It's 294 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: a very human story. He succumbed to his ambition, to 295 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: his lowest, most base instincts. He needed attention like a 296 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: junkie needs the needle. 297 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: And he was the. 298 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 6: Shallowest of men always when you know absolutely and you 299 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 6: see this revolving circuit that he speaks to at the 300 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 6: edge of death, Compare that to a doctor king his 301 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 6: prophetic vision of the just society from the mountaintop. What 302 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: is Lindsey Graham's shallow delusions. We're talking about conflicts between 303 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 6: peoples and societies, some tribal in nature, that extend back 304 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 6: thousands of years. But Lindsey Graham's going to fix it, 305 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 6: and he's in a hurry to do it. He's onto this, 306 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: He's onto that he's going to pass the Save America Act. 307 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 6: And now that he's dead, we have to pass the 308 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 6: Save America Act for Lindsey Graham, right, which is co 309 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 6: fitting tribute. I suppose for a South Carolina senator, that 310 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 6: hotbed of secession in our history, that we honor their 311 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 6: life by taking away votes from black and brown people, 312 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 6: as opposed to let's say what Lindon Johnson understood, which 313 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 6: was when John Kennedy was killed, that he had an 314 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 6: opportunity to pass the Civil Rights and the Voting Rights Act, 315 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 6: which is what he did. So in some ways, the 316 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 6: proposition on the table from the malignancy that's the Trump 317 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 6: regime is the complete opposite. It's the unwinding of civil 318 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 6: rights and voting rights legislation that followed in the aftermath 319 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 6: of John Kennedy under the brilliant and the leadership of 320 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 6: doctor King, of the leaders of the civil rights movement, 321 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 6: of Fanny lou Hammer, of a lot of people, including 322 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 6: President Lyndon Johnson. 323 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: So let me ask you a question. I don't know 324 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: if you've seen Michael Fanone's take on Lindsey Gramm. 325 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 3: Have you seen this? 326 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 5: I have seen. 327 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 6: Michael's take, and so I want to my cake is 328 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 6: different than Michael's one of one of the things across 329 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 6: this show that we're doing is you and I are 330 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 6: friends in real life, have become friends in real life. 331 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 6: So you know, we'll have some conversations here that approximate 332 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 6: how we might talk at various places we go and 333 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 6: hang out and let people who are watching us a 334 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 6: little bit inside. You know, my personality, you know, one 335 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 6: of the one of the things you'll see that people 336 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 6: will say about me through the comments, Oh my god, 337 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 6: Steve Schmidt smiled, we hang out a lot. 338 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 5: I think I smile a lot, laugh too. 339 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: You know, you can, you know, you can assess me 340 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 6: right for the for the for the crowd, here on 341 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 6: on on that On that front, I think that Michael 342 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 6: Finone is having a very emotional and very personal reaction 343 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: to what was a very personal and emotional traumatic event 344 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 6: that he's talked about a great deal. So Michael Fanone 345 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 6: had a very specific interaction with Lindsey Graham that occurred 346 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 6: after January sixth of twenty twenty one. 347 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 5: In Michael's heroism is. 348 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 6: Well known on that day, and that interaction, beyond any 349 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 6: shadow of a dow has given, in my view, Michael 350 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 6: Fanone the moral standing to say whatever it is he 351 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 6: wishes to say about Lindsey. 352 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 5: Graham and his cowardice in this moment. 353 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 6: And so anybody judging Michael Fanone, I would say, has 354 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 6: a problem with judgmentalism, because Michael Foedone is trying to 355 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 6: communicate a depth of feeling with integrity about a man 356 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 6: who betrayed his oath, betrayed decency, certainly betrayed Michael Fanone 357 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 6: in every capital cop, betrayed his country. He betrayed the 358 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: American flag which is used as a weapon, betrayed George Washington, 359 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 6: and betrayed the sacrifice of. 360 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 5: A million men. Women. 361 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: Excuse me, you gave the last full measure of devotion, 362 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: as Lincoln called it. 363 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 5: I mean, when does the counting of sacrifice to stop? 364 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: Is it obliterated by memory? Is there a statute of 365 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 6: limitations on it? Does what the soldier did in the 366 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: Civil War. 367 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 5: Not matter any more? 368 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 6: Is the sacrifice of the men at Bunker Hill? Is 369 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 6: that past its remembrance point? A million young men primarily 370 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 6: died so that we could live in freedom. Lindsey Graham 371 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 6: reprehensibly repudiated that sacrifice. M He's not Stephen Miller, who 372 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: I genuinely believe is evil Terry Moran was fired by 373 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 6: a corrupt corporate media for accurately assessing excuse me for 374 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 6: accurately assessing personal and personality qualities of a person who 375 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 6: has immense power. He's a fanatic, he's a true believer. 376 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 6: Lindsey Graham was the. 377 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 5: Exact opposite opportunist. 378 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: He was. 379 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 6: The greatest opportunist of this era, a complete and total fraud. 380 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: You call them a pilot fish. 381 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 4: In a podcast we did about four or five months ago, Ramoa, 382 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: I thought that was a perfect example, perfect example, a 383 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 4: perfect explanation of who Lindsey Graham had become. 384 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: Just perfect. 385 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 5: Well. 386 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 6: I talked about this for the first time in two 387 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 6: thy and nineteen, and if you go back to two 388 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 6: thoyd and nineteen, there was a tremendous debate that was 389 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 6: going on, and it was the era of what happened 390 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 6: to Lindsay Graham, and all of it was through the 391 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 6: prism of contradictions between Lindsay once said A and now 392 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 6: Lindsay says B. And the point I made was that 393 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 6: to understand Lindsey Graham, you have to understand the consistency, 394 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 6: not the contradiction, and the consistency is that he's like 395 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 6: a pilotfish remorra, and a pilotfish or a remira swims 396 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 6: about or attaches itself to its host, usually a shark 397 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 6: a predator, and lives off of its flotsam, it's detritus, 398 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 6: it's crumps, and Lindsey, a pilotfish swim about the great 399 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 6: predator of the sea, the noble McCain shark, and people 400 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 6: attached virtues to McCain's. 401 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: Parasite, to his sidekick, to his pilotfish. 402 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 6: And then when that shark died, the pilot fish needed 403 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 6: a new host, and it swam and attashed itself to 404 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 6: a new predator, a new shark, the vilest shark of. 405 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 5: The sea, the Trump shark. 406 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 6: But the pilot fish is the pilot fish. The pilot 407 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 6: fish needs a meal. And the insatiability of Lindsey Graham, 408 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 6: the hunger inside of him was this need to be 409 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 6: in the room where it happens. There was no other 410 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 6: thing in his life, nothing there was. 411 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 5: I gotta get this outie deal, done it. 412 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 6: And so now he's stone cold in a box, betrayed 413 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 6: his country, disgraced himself, ruined his reputation, and his eulogists 414 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 6: are the vilest force in one hundred and sixty years 415 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: of American history. It's the born Confederacy. M H. He 416 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 6: is the architect of a lost war with Iran. I 417 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 6: choose to remember this about Lindsay Graham. Well, I choose 418 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 6: to see the eleven US soldiers at least who have 419 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 6: been killed in combat in a war that they shouldn't 420 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 6: have been killed in because of Lindsey Graham and Donald 421 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 6: Trump's fucking reckless stupidity. M. 422 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: I want to I want to play a clip for 423 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: you to Steve. 424 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 4: You want to talk about Donald Trump's reckless stupidity, Let's 425 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: talk about his completely inept eulogy of Lindsay Graham. Yeah, 426 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: he's making his rounds. He's making his rounds. He's making 427 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 4: this about himself, as we all know. H. Lindsay want 428 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: to do it? Any Nettan Yah, who's doing the same thing. 429 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: You've got world leaders that were chummy with Lindsey Graham 430 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 4: who are now you know, doing the Charlie Kirk thing. 431 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: Right. I remember when Charlie Kirk died. 432 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: Is like, the last words Charlie Kirk said to me 433 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: were get this deal done. The last words Charlie Kirk 434 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: said to me is Israel needs more bombs. 435 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: The last words, well. 436 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is as feckless and as weird as this 437 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: is on Kristen Welker's Meet the Press this weekend, or 438 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: it was a face Nation, I can't remember anyway. This 439 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: is Christian Walker and he was asked, this is his 440 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: first appearance after finding out that Lindsey Graham passed away. 441 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: This is how he chose to remember a guy who 442 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: said he was a bigot, the xenophobe and a racist. 443 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: Let's play that clip if we. 444 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: Can, mister President. And I know that we are all 445 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: just absorbing this news. We are all in shock. Can 446 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: you tell us, mister President, how you receive this news 447 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: and your immediate gut reaction when you heard it. 448 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 7: So what makes it even stranger is that I got 449 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 7: a call last night sometime, you know, the early evening, 450 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 7: maybe in the sevens, and he called and he said, 451 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 7: we're all set for the Save America Act. He was 452 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 7: pushing the Save America Act like crazy. He got back, 453 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 7: said he just landed from Ukraine. I said, that's a 454 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 7: long trip to me. Case said, he's founded a little tired, 455 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 7: but perfect. 456 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 5: But it's a little bit tired. 457 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 7: I had a right to be man he was a worker. 458 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 7: He was really a worker. But but he sounded great. Actually, 459 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 7: but he was he was. He actually said he was tired, 460 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 7: but he wanted to pass the Save America Act. And 461 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: I said, well, we're going to get it done. Lindsay, 462 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 7: we're going to get it done. I'll see you like soon. 463 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 7: We thought maybe we might even meet today. I said, 464 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 7: you got it. I just can't believe it. He was 465 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 7: like a member of the family. To me. It's very tough. 466 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: Actually, there you go, there you go. 467 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: It's a member of the family, Steve, he's a member 468 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: of the Lindsey Graham was like a member of the 469 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: family to me. 470 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 5: I rest my case. 471 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's nothing else to say. You nailed it. 472 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: Everybody used to go and read that piece. 473 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: By the way, go to Steve Schmidt's the warning right 474 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: here on substack and you can get that right now. 475 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: I've also put that in the daily newsletter over at 476 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: Dean Blundell dot substack dot com. 477 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: We've got a couple of issues here. 478 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: Not only is the Lindsey Graham, you know, Senate seat 479 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 4: up for grabs, We've also maybe got one in Kentucky 480 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: that's up for grabs. 481 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 482 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: Did we have a Mitch McConnell's sighting and is this real? 483 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: Do we have a picture of Mitch McConnell being held 484 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: up by his wife? Do we it's very weekend at Bernie's. 485 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 4: Do we have that picture? 486 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: Can we? 487 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 5: There? 488 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: We go? There we. 489 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: There's there's Yeah, But I worry about when I see 490 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 5: this picture? 491 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: Uh huh? 492 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: Is the waiter that woke up in Bavaria saying where 493 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: the fuck did my tablecloth go? Man? 494 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: Mitch is wearing it and he's holding a newspaper. This 495 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: is in This is in DC, where he is apparently 496 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: recovering since the fourteenth of June. 497 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: What are we now? Twenty eight days? 498 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're about twenty eight, twenty nine days that no 499 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: one has seen or heard from him. Mitch released the 500 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 4: statement along with his picture. His office did this picture 501 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: is highly suspect? 502 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 5: Doesn't right to me? 503 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem right to me either. But a want 504 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: of your thoughts on this because this is not a 505 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: fake photo. But it might be a fake photo. It 506 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: might be from in twenty twenty three, it might not 507 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: be from twenty twenty three. Pretty sure his wife is 508 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: still in China, So this is weird, but he says 509 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: that he can't wait to get back to work. Steve, 510 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: He's got a lot of work to do on the 511 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 4: Senate floor. And we apparently have a proof of life 512 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 4: picture here. I would love your thoughts because I don't 513 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: even know where to say. 514 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 6: I don't to be precise and not nitpicky, but he 515 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 6: hasn't said anything, right. 516 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: We just have a picture. Yeah, okay, So. 517 00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 6: I am not a conspiracy person by temper, mean disposition, 518 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 6: by precedent across the board. And definitely my dad, who 519 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 6: you you have met and spent him with, is not. 520 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 5: And my dad is eighty years old. 521 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 6: He's a great guy, smart guy. We're driving in the car. 522 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 6: He was the deputy Majority leader of the New Hampshire 523 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 6: House of Representatives. He's a rock ribbed Republican, though appalled 524 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 6: by Donald Trump and sees the insanity clearly. And we're driving, 525 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 6: and I'm in the passenger seat, and I got dad. 526 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question. 527 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 6: Just when the Senate Majority Leader John Dune says, I 528 00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 6: talked to Mitch McConnell for twenty minutes, just straight up, 529 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 6: do you believe that guy and my dad was like driving? 530 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 5: He's right, he's driving, he just like looked at me 531 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 5: and he goes, of course not right, so and so right. 532 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 6: Really, if you think about it, and this is a 533 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 6: sign of the decay and rot of the country. I mean, truthfully, 534 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: who's to know? Who's to know? 535 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 5: Right? 536 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 6: So it's crazy the majority leader of what was the 537 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 6: world's greatest deliberative body just full on, flat out cannot 538 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 6: be trusted in twenty twenty six, in July of twenty 539 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 6: twenty six, when he says I talked to Mitch McCall 540 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 6: for twenty minutes or or of course, preposterously Scott Jennings, right, 541 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 6: no credibility whatsoever. I talked to I talked to miss 542 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 6: McColl for twenty minutes. 543 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 5: Well, what did you talk about? What you talking about? Oh, 544 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 5: we were talking about the history of the Senate. 545 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 6: We were talking about Okay, I'm sure you were. Now 546 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 6: what do we know? 547 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 5: Right? The guys toes up in the back of the ambulance. 548 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 6: Everybody is moving in slow motion, right, like you're at 549 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 6: the I don't know where, right, I mean, you know, 550 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 6: on the Sweet Team line, right at the Graham Wake, 551 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 6: I suppose in Charleston and right slow motion line, right, 552 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 6: you know, kind of movement on on on the ambulance crew, 553 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 6: after you get a call from CPR, after you get 554 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 6: a after you get a call about this eighty four 555 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 6: year olds unconscious and he's got no cardiac also that 556 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 6: loan behold right, he's got this snazzy carrying tablecloth on 557 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 6: that he's wearing with his with his wife delightfully reaching 558 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 6: behind him to it. Maybe a secret spot, you know. 559 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 6: I don't want to get too innimate here, but but 560 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 6: he's got no there's no tape on his hands, there's 561 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 6: no evidence of IV nothing O, there's no he's just 562 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 6: he's just hanging out. He's got I mean, it looks 563 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 6: like a hospital chair, looks like a hospital pillow. He's 564 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 6: got the paper, he's sitting up. They look happy. I mean, 565 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 6: she might have just been promoted to field marshal. We 566 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 6: don't know about right back from back from China. No 567 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 6: one has explained any of that. What's going on to 568 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 6: I don't know, But I honestly I don't believe a 569 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 6: word yeah of these people. And the issue is it's 570 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 6: about power. It's about the vote. He holds a proxy 571 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 6: vote or someone does for his committee votes. With some 572 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 6: committee votes coming forward, and they need to offer proof 573 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 6: of this is outrageous. And again, you know what Mitch 574 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 6: McConnell's legacy is is he broke the reputation of what 575 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 6: was the world's greatest deliberative bodies so fucking badly right 576 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 6: that at and let's just say in the most generous 577 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 6: conceivable space that perhaps he's in a transitional period. 578 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 5: That who's to know? Is is his legacy? Who's to know? 579 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 5: Who can know? Right? 580 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 6: Trust is evaporated so profoundly, so earthshakingly terribly. 581 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 5: Who's to know? Mitch McConnell. 582 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 6: And and this guy ran in nineteen eighty four for 583 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 6: the US Senate against d Huddleston, as we talked about 584 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 6: when we first addressed this a week ago, the famous 585 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 6: ad with the bloodhounds searching for d Huddleston, his elderly 586 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 6: opponent Mitch McConnell promising to follow term limits. And here 587 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 6: we are, at the end, the total immolation of the 588 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 6: traditions of the Senate, the functioning of the Senate. He's 589 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 6: a vandal and in this force weekend at Bernie's in Kentucky, 590 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 6: another disgrace. 591 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: The picture though, dude, like this, I can't the picture. 592 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 4: I don't believe a word of it either. And here's 593 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: the sad part, is it. I hate conspiracy theorists. I 594 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 4: hate conspiracy theories. I'm a hard data guy. You're a 595 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 4: hard data guy. Strategy and polling and winning elections. That 596 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 4: comes with numbers that you can prove out. That comes 597 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 4: with facts, right, It just comes with facts. The reason 598 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: why we are here is because we like to deliver facts. 599 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 4: There is not one single fact that you can draw 600 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 4: a straight line from when it comes to this ridiculous 601 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: fucking picture or the statement that that authentic case that any. 602 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: Of this is real. 603 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 4: They're just odds from Mitch's office. And he did release 604 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 4: the statement. By the way, I just want to point 605 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 4: that I. 606 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 5: Can't what's on the cover of the paper? Is it 607 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 5: Today's paper? 608 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 609 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: Now that's the the I think that the DC paper. 610 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 4: I don't know which one sports section that has been 611 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 4: verified Washington Post? 612 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 3: Is it's it the Post? Okay? 613 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he did say and it I just I 614 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 4: want you. 615 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 5: To why paper glowing there like it's. 616 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 3: Like he did say this. 617 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 4: He's undergone a battery of tests as doctors try to 618 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: determine what led to a fall, which is why he 619 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 4: was in the hospital. Doctor confirmed that I didn't break 620 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 4: any bones or suffer a concussion. 621 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: I didn't have a heart attack or stroke. I don't know. 622 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 4: I don't have any tumors or hemorrhages. But I was 623 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 4: briefly unconscious and was taken to the hospital while receiving 624 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 4: excellent care over the past several weeks. 625 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: Uh got pneumonia. I got pneumonia. You just throw that 626 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: one in. 627 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, like I did when I had It's 628 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 4: it's unbelievable to me that nobody that people are just 629 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: accepting this as as as a real statement from me. 630 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 5: I know. 631 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 4: They did have CPR, like when the when the ambulance 632 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 4: was called, they were they were performing CPR, and which 633 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 4: means he's dead. 634 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 6: I had to Dick Cheney had cardiac surgery in two 635 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 6: thousand and five. 636 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 637 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 6: He was extremely guarded about his privacy. And when I've 638 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 6: given advice to candidates over over the years on on 639 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 6: these questions you, I've always viewed my job as helping 640 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 6: them find what it is that they believe right through 641 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 6: a through a process. But in these cases right of privacy, 642 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 6: I've always put my thumb on the scale of an advocate, 643 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 6: which is to you should protect your privacy and your 644 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 6: kids privacy, and that the invasions of privacy that come 645 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 6: from being in public life have boundaries and limits, and 646 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 6: know where the fuck offline is and know and know 647 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 6: how to hold. 648 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 5: It and in Cheney in in that space. 649 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 6: Whatever whatever one may think about his view of these issues, 650 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 6: no one's going to accuse him of being overly disclosing 651 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 6: right about about how he feels about things about things 652 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 6: that happen. So at any rate, he understood. It's the 653 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 6: vice president of the United States. He's gonna be under 654 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 6: general anesthesia for a couple of hours in a medical procedure. 655 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 6: When they woke them up, he's in the recovery room. 656 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 6: I walked into the room night add tubes in. He 657 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 6: had all sorts of shit going on, beeping machines and 658 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 6: everything else, but he was alert and awake, and he said, 659 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 6: how you doing, sir? 660 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 5: Oh? And he. 661 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 6: You know, I said, you know what day it is? 662 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 6: I said what day is it? I? So, what's your 663 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 6: day job? I'm the Vice President of the United States. 664 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 6: Are you ready to get back to work? 665 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 5: Yep? 666 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 6: Said see you later, sir walked out, said the Vice 667 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 6: President in his recovery. 668 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 5: It's awake and alert. 669 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 6: There's no question about my credibility whatsoever when I would 670 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 6: go out speed king, it's a deputy assistant to the 671 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 6: president counselor or the vice president of the United States, 672 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 6: to the American people? Are you kidding me? And so 673 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 6: this is a very very big deal. Total lack of responsibility, 674 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 6: total lack of judgment. But what's new, utter lack of credibility? 675 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 5: So bad? Right? 676 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 6: And the burdens on them, not us, Right, We're on 677 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 6: the high ground of reasonableness here, not them. Only a 678 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 6: fucking moron would take their word for it that this 679 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 6: guy's alive. In neither the statement nor the picture does 680 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 6: anything to alter my posture on that you have done 681 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 6: everything you can, through deed and word and craziness, to 682 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 6: make it seem that there's somewhere between a likelihood to 683 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 6: at least some probability the Mitchell McConnell's dead. 684 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 3: What did you say last week? 685 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 4: Was like six percent chance of someone who goes through 686 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 4: that process or that kind of injury or that kind 687 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 4: of mass six percent chance he's not a vegetable or dead. 688 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 6: Six percent If you're if you're taken out of your 689 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 6: house after you're doing chest compressions on you in an ambulance. 690 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not good. 691 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 4: But the picture though, Yeah, I mean, but the picture, guys, 692 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 4: he's good. Listen before we get look at it. 693 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 3: I can't stop laughing. Every time I look at this picture, 694 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: I laugh. 695 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to move on for Mitch, 696 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 4: but I want to put a little bit of a button 697 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 4: in this because I know we have to talk about 698 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 4: the New York Times in this lawsuit and uh, the 699 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 4: FBI coming down on reporters from the New York Times. 700 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 3: Uh, and just this this crazy abusive story. 701 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 4: But but the one thing I will I will say 702 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 4: before we move on from from Mitch McConnell is there 703 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 4: is a real balance of power thing going on in 704 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 4: the Senate right now. You lost Lindsey Graham, right literally, 705 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 4: he's no longer there, and now you've got, like, if 706 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 4: we can put that that that uh, the graphic of 707 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 4: the actual Senate seats up here. Uh, you've got Mitch McConnell, 708 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 4: who may or may not be dead, right, And if 709 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 4: you look at the balance of the power in the Senate, 710 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 4: this is something, right, I mean, you know, yeah, we're 711 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 4: having some laps. And yes, we're talking about the seriousness 712 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: of the legacy of of of uh, you know, Lindsey Graham, 713 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 4: and and whether or not Mitch McConnell is alive or 714 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 4: dead in that crazy weekend of Bernie's pictures. But this 715 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 4: is UH, this is something the balance of power in 716 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 4: the Senate. 717 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 7: Uh. 718 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 4: And and I want your thoughts on this, because you know, 719 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 4: where do we go from here? Where do the GOP 720 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 4: go from here? Who is going to take that seat? 721 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how that process looks. I know Donald 722 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 4: Trump suggested earlier today he thought his sister Darlene. Get 723 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: Darlene in there. She could be a great interim senator. 724 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 4: But walk me through that picture. 725 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 6: I have a couple of abiding principles here. And the 726 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 6: first is to appreciate that there is no flower in 727 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 6: all the world more delicate than the male ego. And 728 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 6: and and the second one is nothing quite breeds contempt 729 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 6: like proximity. And so all of that exists in multitudes 730 00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 6: inside the poisonous terrarium where all of the drum of 731 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 6: all of this is going to play out right in 732 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 6: despicable fashion. 733 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 5: And so. 734 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 6: We're in this moment where you have John Cornyn, And 735 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 6: you have the doctor who voted for Robert Kennedy, who 736 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 6: just lost his primary to a true five star maga 737 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 6: whack job who's running against a great candidate named Jamie 738 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 6: Davis in Louisiana, who is who is a prosecutor. 739 00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 5: No excuse me, I think he's a farmer, and he 740 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 5: can win that race. 741 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 6: He can win that race, and he should be being 742 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 6: supported by the National Party, which is a story for 743 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 6: a different, different day. 744 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 5: But at any rate, when. 745 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 6: You look at all of this, in all of these places, 746 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 6: what you see is people who have been betrayed by 747 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 6: Trump who are ready to give it back to him. 748 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 6: So on any given day, right, depending on what mood 749 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 6: John Cornn wakes up in what mood Cassidy wakes up in, 750 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 6: the Democrats might have a majority in the Senate. So 751 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 6: Donald Trump has lost his ability to control what's going 752 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 6: on because there is no replacement for Lindsey Graham in 753 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 6: the sense that no one gives a fuck enough about 754 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 6: doing all the things that Lindsey Graham did because they 755 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 6: have other things to do. Right, He's like the person 756 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 6: on the PTA that was the chair of fourteen different 757 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 6: cookie committees, right, and no one wants to be the 758 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 6: chair of the Cookie Committee, so there's not going to 759 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 6: be any more bake sales. So Lindsey Graham that Hubris 760 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 6: that I'm going to do these things this weekend bringing 761 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 6: peace between the Saddi's right. It's almost manic in disposition. 762 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 5: Crazy. 763 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 764 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 6: But that's gone now, right, That doesn't that doesn't exist. 765 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 3: It's a loss for Trump too. 766 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 6: And that's so that's a loss because no one else 767 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 6: has the energy right to do the things that Lindsay 768 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 6: Graham did for Trump. No one wants to go on 769 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 6: the list lick Trump's boots quite like Lindsay Graham did. 770 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 6: No one else wants to be in Trump's family. No 771 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 6: one else wants to be on predator patio. No one 772 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 6: else wants to do the things that Lindsey Graham did 773 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 6: to debase himself to be there on predator patio. 774 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,959 Speaker 3: That's a great point. That's a great point. 775 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 4: He was desperate enough to be that guy, right, and 776 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 4: he doesn't have that guy anymore. 777 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, great point. 778 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 4: Listen before we go, and I do want to get 779 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 4: to the story with the New York Times. Trump just 780 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 4: sent federal agents to New York Times journalist homes because 781 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 4: they reported on his free Katari jet not having defensive 782 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 4: capabilities to stop a missile. Secret service stepped in Turkey 783 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 4: at the NATO summit. They said, sir, you need to 784 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 4: take Air Force one home the other air Force one. 785 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 4: So he did created this fantastic lie saying, oh, it's 786 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 4: just a straight line. We're just showing it off. That's 787 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 4: all we're doing is showing it off. But a secret service, Yeah, 788 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 4: that's what he did. We're going to lack of airfield 789 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 4: in England just showing it off. It's all good, and uh, 790 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 4: the these it's it's created a much bigger story, a 791 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 4: much bigger issue because now Donald Trump pissed the New 792 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 4: York Times reporters. 793 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 3: Four of them, four reporters leaked the story. 794 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 4: And the reporters are Tyler Pager, Eric Liften, Eric Schmidt, 795 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 4: and Julian E. Barnes, all four incredible journalists for the 796 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 4: New York Times. 797 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 3: And uh, now they have been. 798 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 4: Served subpoenas because Donald Trump is sending the DOJ to 799 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 4: their homes to get them to testify and share with him. 800 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 4: Who possibly leaked that story to these four New York 801 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 4: Times reporters. I mean, this is on the heels of 802 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 4: several of these attempts to chill the the mainstream media 803 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 4: and and their critique or their honest critique of Donald Trump. 804 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 4: This is unbelievable to me. Now he's suing The New 805 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 4: York Times, I don't know for how much. You don't 806 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 4: have that information. And he's suing these four reporters at 807 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 4: the same time sending Department of Justice. I don't know 808 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 4: if they were Homeland Security FBI, have no idea, but 809 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 4: I know Cash Bttel is involved. 810 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 6: This. 811 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 4: This is beyond the pale, Like I mean, this is 812 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 4: crazy to me. 813 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 3: Crazy. 814 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 6: Well, there's so much to talk about in this, but 815 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 6: let's just start with the most basic aspect of it all, 816 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 6: which is the First Amendment for bads. 817 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 5: This it forbids. 818 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 6: It it is not allowed. This is government coercion. This 819 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 6: is an assault on the free press, a direct attack 820 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 6: by the President of the United States by his order, 821 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 6: executed through his henchmen, through federal police, that are trampling 822 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 6: on the most fundamental of American rights. George Washington was 823 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 6: routinely defamed by the loyalist presses, and when the war 824 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 6: was over, he went to the loyalist press, and he 825 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 6: posted guards outside the door lest it be burned down, 826 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 6: excuse me, burned down by by angry by angry New Americans. Right, 827 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 6: this is this is not negotiable. The First Amendment doesn't 828 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 6: exist at the whim of Donald Trump. Frankly, it's an 829 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 6: impeachable act. It is a violation of his constitutional oath. 830 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,720 Speaker 6: It is a flagrant abuse of power and of the law. 831 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 6: The circumstances of it all are farcical, over and over 832 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,919 Speaker 6: and over again. You're compelled, if you offer commentary on 833 00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 6: any type of regular basis, to try and contextualize was happening. 834 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 6: That plane is the singular, singular, over two hundred and 835 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 6: fifty years of history, most corrupt object that has ever 836 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 6: been involved in a corrupt transaction between two parties involving 837 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 6: an American person out of seven hundred million Americans who've 838 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 6: ever lived there. 839 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 5: It is. 840 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 6: The four hundred million dollar plane that Trump is represented. 841 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 6: He intends to keep despite prohibitions that make it illegal 842 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 6: to accept a gift when he leaves office. And so 843 00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 6: right now, if you're a Democrat running for president, you're 844 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 6: going to be asked about this, And frankly, you have 845 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 6: a lot of shit to talk about in meetings as 846 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 6: you're planning a presidential campaign, so you can't linger too 847 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 6: long on obvious things. He can't keep the airplane if 848 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 6: we intend to maintain the republic, period, So at any rate, 849 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 6: he flew on this obscenity to Europe. Air Force one 850 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 6: is a military aircraft flown by military pilots that carries 851 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 6: the American commander in chief, the head of state, the 852 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 6: head of government, the President of the United States, and 853 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 6: the nuclear determined an. That aircraft has countermeasures. 854 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 5: It's not a toy, it's not a palace. 855 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 6: It is a symbol of American power and prestige and might. 856 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 6: It is the aircraft of the President of the United States. 857 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,439 Speaker 6: But not good enough for Trump. So Trump flew over 858 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 6: there and guess what, from Turkey it wasn't safe to 859 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 6: fly back because he was worried about it being shot down, 860 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 6: or more appropriately, the Secret Service was where the US 861 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 6: Air Force was, or the CIA was, somebody was, So 862 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 6: we had a return on the military air craft. And 863 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 6: this was reported as was appropriate for it to be 864 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 6: reported because it's a news story, and he has responded 865 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 6: by dispatching federal agencies reporters and I have bad news 866 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 6: for the federal agents carrying out orders badging the box 867 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 6: to the left, gun in the box to the right. 868 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 6: If I get my way about it, I mean, I'm 869 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 6: a political activist. 870 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 5: I may lose the fight. I may lose the fight, but. 871 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 6: There are many of us who insist, and we have 872 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 6: a reconcilable difference. Obviously with all these Democrats praising Lindsey 873 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 6: Graham because they. 874 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 5: Can't see the damage. 875 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,439 Speaker 6: They choose to look away, because they're indifferent, because they're 876 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 6: small minded narcissists. It's about me and my way Russian 877 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 6: with Lindsey, not about the child on the floor being 878 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 6: given food with worms in it, taunted with cupcakes around 879 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 6: Christmas time by sadistic guards. 880 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 5: No, we can't talk about that. We can't see them. 881 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 6: Now's a time for the celebration of the great statesman, Please. 882 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 5: Apologist for what. 883 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 6: He knew to be wrong, the man who was derelict 884 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 6: in his duty more so than any other figure, Because 885 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 6: more than any other figure, Lindsey Graham was the guy 886 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 6: who knew. And we know that because he left a 887 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 6: record well said, as always this has been dead air. 888 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 4: That of course, the always indispensable Steve Schmidt walking through 889 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 4: the records of the weirdest weekend we have had in 890 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 4: a very very long time, with the death of Lindsey 891 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 4: Graham and the appearance of one Mitch McConnell, and the 892 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 4: subpoenas to reporters for reporting the news, all of this, 893 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 4: of course revolving. 894 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 3: Around one Donald Trump. 895 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: And this is all news and information y'all probably don't 896 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 4: get anywhere else, which is why we do it. That's 897 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 4: why we call it dead air, and brought to you, 898 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 4: of course by our friends here at the Save America Movement. 899 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 4: Please go and subscribe to the Save America Movement. Substack 900 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 4: at the Save America Movement right here. You can also 901 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 4: get them on YouTube. You can also go to their website, 902 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 4: the Save Americamovement dot org and donate. Donate, donate, and 903 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 4: join the team. This is the largest political activist group. 904 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 4: It is about democracy in the United States of America, 905 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 4: founded by real patriots, serviced by you, real patriots who 906 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 4: want your country back. And that is why the Save 907 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 4: America Movement exists these Save America Movement dot org. 908 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Please go there today and as always, you. 909 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Know I put out to the last piece that you 910 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 4: did about Lindsey Graham choosing this, This is. 911 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 3: What he chose, this is who he is. 912 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 4: If you need to read the the definitive, well, if 913 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 4: you definitely need to read the definitive writing of Steve 914 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 4: Schmidt on the life and times of one Lindsay Graham 915 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: and why it's okay to not celebrate the man. That 916 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 4: was the conversation we had today. So please go to 917 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 4: Steve Schmidt's substack at Steve Schmidt The Warning Steve Schmidt 918 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 4: give him a sub as well, and I'm over at 919 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 4: Dean Blundelle dot substack dot com. Steve, thanks for doing this, brother, 920 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 4: really appreciate it. I know we're going to be rounding 921 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,439 Speaker 4: the bases on Saturday for another show, and I don't 922 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,439 Speaker 4: know if the Jays are back in town until next week, 923 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 4: so we might have to schedule at dinner. 924 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, like and I I just if I could, Right, 925 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 6: There's two things I'd like to read as we close out. 926 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 5: Because we will all die. 927 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 6: What does it say on your arm Dean in tattoo 928 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 6: for the audience, Yeah. 929 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 3: It's Latin. 930 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 4: It says a more fatti which is embraced fate, all 931 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 4: of it, the good and the bad. 932 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 3: And momento Mauri, Remember you will die. Only two certainties 933 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 3: you have. 934 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 5: Yet, Remember you will die. 935 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 6: And it's uncomfortable to talk about death and gratitude for life. 936 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 6: And one of the things I admire is are people. 937 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 6: Brayden Fisher, a young pitcher with the Blue Jays, talked 938 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 6: about his father Norm as a guy who just passed 939 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 6: away too young at sixty five, as someone who never 940 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 6: had a bad day. And I've always I've always admired 941 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 6: people that have had that disposition, that they can see 942 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 6: the joy right all the time, on every day, because 943 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 6: our life is so short and we're not its authors, 944 01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 6: and any day can can be our last. And what 945 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 6: we do, particularly those of us who stand for causes, 946 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 6: you're going to be measured against the causes you stand for. 947 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 6: And if you live a public life, your integrity will 948 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 6: be measured. 949 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 5: When George Marshall. 950 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 6: One of the greatest heroes of the Republic, passed away, 951 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 6: a man who was the Army Chief of Staff, the 952 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 6: most important army officer of the Second World War, Secretary 953 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 6: of Defense, the moral architect of the rebuilding of Europe, 954 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 6: the Secretary of State. 955 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 5: When he died, this is. 956 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 6: What Harry Truman said about him. General Marshall was an 957 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 6: honorable man, a truthful man, a man of ability, a 958 01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 6: man of the greatest ability. 959 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 5: He was the. 960 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 6: Greatest general since Robert Lee. He was the greatest administrator 961 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 6: since Thomas Jefferson. Until the day I die, I will 962 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 6: never cease to marvel. How under the most unbelievable pressures 963 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 6: in strained, General Marshall remains steadfast and unchanging, a warm hearted, considered, considerate, 964 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 6: generous and modest man. And then you think about a 965 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 6: life of dignity and grace. 966 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 5: That is peerless. 967 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 6: And in every baseball stadium the number forty two is 968 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 6: hung remembering the life of Jackie Robinson. And so, in 969 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 6: the aftermath of the death of Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump 970 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 6: demands we set in motion of a reversal of progress 971 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 6: that you can trace back to the glorious deeds of 972 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 6: black and other segregated combat unit World War Two. They 973 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 6: were part of what was called the double V campaign, 974 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:18,439 Speaker 6: victory over fascism abroad, victory over racism at home. And 975 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 6: so the armed forces are desegregated, and Jackie Robinson plays 976 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 6: baseball and breaks the color barrier. It's the same year 977 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 6: color barriers broken in professional football. 978 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 5: And when he dies too young. 979 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 6: Jesse Jackson delivers the eulogy, and I consider this to 980 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 6: be the greatest eulogy ever delivered for one person by another, 981 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 6: and I'd just like to read it because I think 982 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 6: it is a fitting measure of a man's life. On 983 01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 6: July twelfth was the eighty second an anniversary of the 984 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 6: death of Teddy Roosevelt, Junior Brigadier General Teddy Roosevelt, Junior, 985 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 6: recipient of four Silver Stars, the Distinguished Service Cross, five 986 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 6: of the highest valor awards in the US Armed Forces, 987 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 6: recipient of two Purple Hearts, man who was in his 988 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 6: lifetime chairman of American Express, Governor General of the Philippines, 989 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 6: Governor General of Puerto Rico, narrowly lost the New York 990 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 6: Governor's race. The eldest son of the President of the 991 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 6: United States, who, when he was a young man, believed 992 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 6: he would never have a name. 993 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 5: A reputation of his own. 994 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 6: A brilliant combat leader, he insists that he will lead 995 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 6: his men ashore on D Day, and when the troops land, 996 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 6: Teddy Roosevelt recognizes instantly they're in the wrong place and 997 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 6: famously says, we'll start the war from here. He used 998 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,959 Speaker 6: every connection. He had to overcome the order that said 999 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 6: no way, you're not landing in the first wave. And 1000 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 6: he became the only general officer to land in the 1001 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 6: first wave. He was the oldest man, fifty six. He 1002 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 6: came ashore with a cane and a sidearm and under 1003 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 6: fire directed the troops. He was the only father who 1004 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 6: had a son in the first wave. And he was 1005 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 6: the only general who came ashore in the first wave. 1006 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 6: And Teddy Roosevelt died eighty two years of a day 1007 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 6: that Lindsey Graham died, and his grave is embossed with 1008 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 6: the gold appropriate for our recipient of the Medal of 1009 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 6: Honor in the American Cemetery above Colville, saying, where all 1010 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 6: the graves faced west back towards home, across the ocean, 1011 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 6: they crossed to defend liberty. That's the sacrifice, and that's 1012 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 6: the dimensions of Lindsey graham betrayal. So when we think 1013 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 6: about a life, think about what Jesse Jackson said about 1014 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 6: Jackie Robinson. Today, we must balance the tears of sorrow 1015 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 6: with the tears of joy, mix the bitter with the 1016 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 6: sweet death and life. Jackie, there's a figure in history 1017 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 6: was a rock in the water, creating concentric circles and 1018 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 6: ripples of new possibility. He was medicine. He was immunized 1019 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 6: by God from catching the diseases. 1020 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:37,839 Speaker 5: That he fought. 1021 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 6: The Lord's arms of protection enabled him to go through 1022 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 6: dangers seen and unseen, and he had the capacity to 1023 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 6: wear glory with grace. Jackie's body was a temple of God, 1024 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 6: an instrument of peace. We would watch him disappear into 1025 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 6: nothingness and stand back as spectators and watch the suffering 1026 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 6: from afar. The mercy of God intercepted this process Tuesday 1027 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 6: and permitted him to steal away home where referees are 1028 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 6: out of place and only the supreme Judge of the 1029 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 6: universe speaks. And so now Lindsey Graham stands before the 1030 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 6: Supreme Judge of the universe. And that is a jurisdiction 1031 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 6: beyond our reach. But we remember who he was with clarity, 1032 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 6: and in this time of crisis, can offer no false 1033 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 6: evasions or memories to a man who knew better and 1034 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 6: did worse by choice, the master of his fate, who 1035 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 6: yoped it to a vicious fascism and a cult of 1036 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 6: personality headed by a rapist whose best friend was Jeffrey Epstein. 1037 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 5: So I'll sustain and take no lectures. 1038 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 6: From powerful men and women who tell me it's not 1039 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 6: the time to speak clearly about the truth. Graham is 1040 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 6: a tragedy, but he's a tragedy by choice. 1041 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 3: That, of course is Steve Schmidt. Thank you, Steve. 1042 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 4: This has been dead air, brought to you by the 1043 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 4: Save America Movement, and that is a per perfect place 1044 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 4: to end for today. 1045 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 3: We will see you again on Saturday. 1046 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 4: Please subscribe, Please share this with as many people as 1047 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 4: humanly possible at Steve Schmidt right here on substack at 1048 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 4: It's Dean Blundell here on substack, and of course the 1049 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 4: Save America Movement here on substack as well the Save 1050 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 4: America Movement dot org. 1051 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 3: Go and donate, Go and join today. Thanks Steve. Talk 1052 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 3: to you Saturday. 1053 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 5: Go see Tan