1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Ronan, I think the obligation of a repair shop isn't 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: just to collect money. We're not there to collect money. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: We are, but we're not. We're there to fix cars, 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and we do that so we can collect money. That's 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: the car Doctor supposedly runs a test sequence. When you 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: started up and it does not well, you have to 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: ground terminal thirteen in the diagnostic connector link to get 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: at the flash the lights. Welcome to the radio home 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: of ron Andanian, the Car Doctor, since this is where 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: at eight five and now running. I think I'm a 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: very literal kind of guy. I think that's just the 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: way it works with me. And you know, I think 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: to be successful in life, I think to be successful 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: in order repair, you really got to know yourself. You 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: gotta know who you are sometimes. I think pack to 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: the tenth grade and I was in the high school 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: drama club with Mrs Clinger and we were doing a 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: scene with four kids in an elevator and about how 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: people react. And I think I've told you this story, 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: but it's been a while, so I'll rehash it for 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: those that are new. And you know, it was how 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: you get on an elevator where everybody tends to look away, 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: some look up, some look down, some sit there and 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: count the floors. And she was looking for realism. Mrs 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: Clinger was just she was, you know, she wanted realism. 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Show me what you got. Live the part when the 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: and the bell with dang, and you know, the door 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: pretended to open and everybody got out of the elevator 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: while I got out of the elevator and I took 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: it a literal. I got out of the elevator and 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: I took one step too far and I fell off 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: the stay age. It happens right, Thank god. It was 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: rehearsal and I'm lying there, you know, on the ground, 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: and everybody came running over. Mrs Cleaning came running over 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: and she looked at me and she said are you okay? 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: And I said I think so. She said how many 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: fingers am I holding up? And I said three and 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: she said that's right, And um, she said you feel okay? 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: I said yes, she said, then get back up on 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: stage and finish the job you started. She said. You 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: never stop and do anything halfway. And that's the way 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: it is in life, and that's the way it is 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: in the theater. And and that's true, right, you never 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: stop anything halfway. And and if you're literal, you take 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: that to heart. I had a two thousand five Toyota 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Highlander come in the shop this week. I haven't seen 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: lou in five years, almost six actually, and I'm not 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: sure why or you know what, what kicks the bug 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: where he ends up on my doorstep. I think, I 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: kind of know. I think it's a technical problem that 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: nobody else can fix. And he's he's using me as 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: the mass he's using me as the drop in the 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: guy that can fix anything. But he'll just you know, 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: he'll he'll take it. You can. And then and it's interesting, 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: right because I see all kinds of shining new parts 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: on the car, and yet it's still not fixed. Or 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: is it? The vehicle stability control light was on now 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: vehicle stability control in two thousand five. It doesn't come 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: on for a lot of reasons, and it rarely comes 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: on in my experience without an a B S light 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: or a track light or a check engine light. Usually 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: it's a combination of things. So it's gonna be an 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: interesting repair. And I took it literally that way. It's 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting repair. I said, let's see where 69 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: this goes. Scanner for codes it had a season Charlie, 70 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: thirteen thirty six. Yaw calibration is lost. In other words, 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: there's a YAW sensor in a lot of vehicles in 72 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: two thousand five year we had, you know, sixteen years ago. 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Think of the technology, how it's, how it's You think 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it's just recently. Not We've had it for a long time. Yaw. 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of like standing on a boat. The boat 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: pitches up, the boat pitches down, it goes left, it 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: goes right. They need to know that. With regards to 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: the car. Somehow this Toyota Highlander lost it's zero point. 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: It didn't know where steady cs were. And that usually 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: happens as a result of a somebody cleared codes because 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: they worked on something and they cleared codes, and sometimes 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: it loses calibration, or be the batteries disconnected, maybe improperly 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: or for a long extended period of time, or see 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: maybe there's a fault in the U S sensor or 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: the wiring and the circuit leading up to it. Maybe 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: I think I've seen that once. I think one bad 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: US center in thirty years of the of the possibility 88 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: of the fault code being around across a multitude of vehicles. 89 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I had a correct for your censor. I I recalibrated 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: it one to three, hooked up the autel. The hotel 91 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: went right through it, calibrated it no problem, did the 92 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: job it's supposed to do, which is what we love 93 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: about hotel scan tools. And it worked. It just flat 94 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: out worked. Told the customer says, hey, Grady says, can 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: you inspect it for me too? By the way, it's 96 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: due for New Jersey state inspection. Oh this is where. 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: This is where I got out of the elevator and 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I fell off the stage because when I did your 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: censor calibration, part of the procedure was to disconnect the battery. 100 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: They want to start from a zero point. Guess what 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: happened When I disconnected the battery. All the monitors were gone, 102 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: all the flags, the readiness tests aren't there. Um, we 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: had just fallen off the stage again. And I kind 104 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: of sighed, and I thought about Mrs Klinger, because I said, 105 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: what would she tell me to do? Fifty years later, 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I still remember that, get back up on stage and 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: keep going. So I started to run monitors. The issue 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: is this time of year, I noticed on older cars, 109 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: running monitors gets to be a little tedious. I don't 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: know if it's the weather. It was very cold in 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: New Jersey this week. Is in other parts of the 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: country did averaged around eleven or twelve degrees some days. 113 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: And to go out and start running cat monitors and 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: evapp monitors, because those are the ones that seemed to 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: take the longest, seemed to be the most difficult, They're 116 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: the ones that are the most trying. It took three 117 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: days of driving this car. I put forty miles on 118 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: this car to get monitors to run. And this is 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: a procedure that usually I can knock the flags down 120 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: and about oh, I don't know, five and a half 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: six miles. It doesn't take a lot. But here's an 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: older car with a hundred fifty thousand miles on it. 123 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Everything isn't as perfect as it could be. It's a 124 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: little kind of beat up around the edges, and it's 125 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: not here for this. It's here for the VSC light 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: that nobody could get to go out and nobody could 127 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: figure out. I took the car home one night. I 128 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: called up Blue and I said, I'm gonna take the 129 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: car home, as I do with so many customers cars, 130 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: and I always tell a customer when I'm taking the car, 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: I want you to know the cars off the property 132 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: that I'm responsible for it. But I've got your car. 133 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: And I got up early the next morning and I 134 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: started driving the main highway Roots seventeen, and I did 135 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: it in a way that I actually took the over 136 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: drive off so the car warm up a little bit 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: faster and run a little warmer because I'd make the 138 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: engine read a little higher. And by the time I 139 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: got to the shop, sure enough, I was back on 140 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: the elevator. The door was open, and the play was 141 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: over because all the flags had dropped. The first the 142 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: evapp monitor ran and then the CAT monitor ran, which 143 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I have to tell you makes no sense to me. 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: And I see this on a lot of older Toyota's. 145 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: Toyotas seemed to do things a little differently like they do. 146 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: They're a different kind of car company. Wasn't that Saturn 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: and and usually cat monitor runs first and then evapp Toyota. 148 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Seems like the older ones do it backwards, but regardless, 149 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I was able to get them all to go forty 150 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: eight miles later, finished the car, inspected it, and delivered 151 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: it back to the customer. He was happy. I was happy. 152 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: We moved on with the day. Some repairs just you know, 153 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: there's no way to account for that. There's no way 154 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: to know that. The customers gonna say, hey, can you 155 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: inspect this? And I want you to think about that, 156 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: because going forward, cars are not getting easier, They're going 157 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: to get more complicated. I'm gonna talk a little bit 158 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: later on this hour. Next day, I want to talk 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: about GM. In the news that GM claims they're going 160 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: to be all electric by the year five, No internal 161 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: combustion engines to sell vehicles like that, nothing, And I 162 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: kind of find that hard to believe because I don't 163 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: know that we're ready for that technology. We can't fix 164 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: the current technology. And by way, I mean me and 165 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: other shops like me were where we we struggle at 166 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: days because the logic and the information just isn't there 167 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: to provide us to give us what we need to 168 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: know the dealer goes through the same thing. It doesn't 169 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: even a matter of us versus them, all of us 170 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: trying to fix cars. My Ford Explorer locked up the 171 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: radio heating controls ahead again this past week. I dropped 172 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: it off at the Ford dealer because it's under warrantine. 173 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: It's I thought I would know what was wrong with it. 174 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: I found a bolton that talked about a reflesh, which 175 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I kind of found hard to believe because they've done 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: one reflesh and change the hardware already. They did the reflesh. 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens now. You know it's It took 178 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: them three and a half days to do that too. 179 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: By the way, it doesn't happen overnight. Nothing's simple, nothing's easy, 180 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: and it seems like going forward in order repair. We're 181 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: all gonna be standing in an elevator and we're just 182 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to look very carefully when we get out 183 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: to make sure we don't fall off the stage because 184 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: Mrs Klinger probably isn't gonna be there to help you 185 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: get back up on it. Hello and welcome. I'm ronan 186 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. I want to thank you 187 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: for stopping by. I want to thank you for allowing 188 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: me to be part of your your day and your 189 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: weekend and talk to you about your automobile, whatever it 190 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: might be. The phone number to get in here is 191 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. That's 192 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: the car doctors phone number, I should point out that's 193 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: seven eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. You 194 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: can call it leave a message anytime, day or night. 195 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: Executive Producer, chief cook and bottle washer, Tom Ray, We'll 196 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: call you back, yes, sir. Oh. I just want to 197 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: let you know thanks to you. My wife thinks I'm 198 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: a bigger idiot than I am because I can just 199 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: picture you falling off the stage and I was rolling 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: on the floor laughing. Tom, I'm telling you. It was. 201 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: It was. And I remember the kids. Henry Darden was there, 202 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Ellen Terrell, who was in the elevator. I don't remember 203 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: the fourth kid, but I mean everybody was in hysterics. 204 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: I just I just I heard ding and I just 205 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: walked forward to think, and there I was. That was 206 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: My head hit the floor. Yeah, uh no, Actually I 207 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: had to fix it afterwards. But uh you know, Tom, 208 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: It's funny the older you get, the more you think 209 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: back to how you got here. Sometimes I think life 210 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: is like that that that jar of sand, and you 211 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: want to line up all the grains and you figure 212 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: out which grains of sand interconnected to get you where 213 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: you are. I know how I got here. I know 214 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: how I got interconnected. Boy, I'll tell you what. If 215 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: they ever put me on the Tonight Show and they say, 216 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: what's your life story, It's gonna be about a six 217 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: hour show because I got stories that Holy it'll take 218 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: all night. Let me pull over and take the pause. 219 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor. We're back to 220 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: open the garage doors right after this. Don't go away? 221 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: What's more fun than listening to run and any in 222 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: the car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? A five? 223 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Five five zero zero zero, give her on a call. 224 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to Terry 225 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: and Iowa. Terry, welcome back. Where we stand with this 226 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Toyota camera, Well, um, I'm not getting it to run. 227 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: When I turned the key to the on position, I 228 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: thought I should hear the pump prime for a couple 229 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: of seconds. But I was doing some reading, and according 230 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to some of it, they say, this is a non 231 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: priming pump, so I shouldn't hear anything. And I don't 232 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: get voltage back there. Either crank the engine. Then I 233 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: get plenty of voltage back there, and the car will 234 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: fire up for a couple of seconds. The RPMs go 235 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: up to about three thousand and then quickly drop off 236 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: in the car dies. If I try to redo that 237 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: again right away, it'll just crank. It won't fire up 238 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: like that? Okay, when it? When it? When it? When 239 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: it just cranks and doesn't fire up. Do you have 240 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: voltage back at the pump? Yes, you do, I do. 241 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Then you've got to bear fuel pump. That's a fuel pump. 242 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: Now there's I want to ask you about one fuse. Um, 243 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: it's a five AM fuse and it's called a multiport 244 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: fuel injection system fuse. And I was testing all the 245 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: fuses in the relays, and when the key is in 246 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: the on position, I don't get any power at that fuse. 247 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Does it have to be cranking in order to get 248 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: that power to that fusical through the switch? First? There's 249 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: something else, frank it. Do you have power to that fuse? Well, 250 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: I haven't had a helper to help me do that 251 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, right off off the top of 252 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: my head, no, but the fact that do this. Do 253 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: you have an old headlight lying around terry, a big headlamp, 254 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, like an old round or square style headlamp. No, 255 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: I did try the headlights and stuff, and no I'm 256 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not asking. I'm not asking for that. I 257 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: want to put an electrical load on the on the 258 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: fuel pump circuit. You're working alone. I want to give 259 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: you something usual. Alright. Go buy the cheapest round head, 260 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: old school headlamp you can find. All right. It's gonna 261 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: cost you ten bucks or less. It's not gonna be 262 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Do you have an Oreliota parts 263 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: near you? Run down to the local oraliot to parts. 264 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: Tell them you're looking for a test headlamp. You're gonna 265 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: use it as a test light, all right. You're not 266 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: looking for it to you know, you don't need ten 267 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: thousand candle power. You just need a headlight bulb, alright, 268 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: something you know, round, self contained, like an old school 269 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: car like you know in early seventies, Chivel or Monte Carlo, 270 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: something like that. An old round I think it was 271 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: a sixty one four was the part number. But an 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: old school round headlamp they typically draw seven to nine amps. 273 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: All right, on a twelve volt system, I want you 274 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: to set up a set of test leads. Find power 275 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: and ground at the fuel pump connector. Disconnect the connector, 276 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: wire it to the headlight. Now when you turn the 277 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: head Now, when you go to start the car, turn 278 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: the key on, does the headlight light probably out? The 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: fuel pump doesn't run? Crank the car, does the headlight light? 280 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: The headlights should light? Correct? Okay? Now create your condition 281 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: where you don't were you know, put it back together. 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Create your condition where you can get the car to 283 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: start and then it dies off after a short period 284 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: of time. All right, put the headlight back on. It disconnected, 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: put the headlight on. It does the headlight light because 286 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: I want you to check. Hey, I just want to 287 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: be sure. For the price of a fuel pump, I 288 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: want to be sure that the ground side can stand 289 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: the electrical load, and that you have enough electrons. You 290 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: have enough electricity back there to run the pump. If 291 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: you can light that headlight and it glows as bright 292 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: as it did when the car was running normal, then 293 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: I've got to believe you've got power and ground. You 294 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: plug that in. If the pump doesn't run, the fault 295 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: has to be in the pump. We don't care about fuses, 296 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: We don't care about anything else. Power and ground. It's 297 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: got to run. There's no magic pill here. If I 298 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: did connect the relay and bypassed the relay and the 299 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: pump runs, I can hear it run. Man, Is that 300 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: doing the same thing as testing it with a light? Well, 301 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: you're proving the pump runs, but then now you're into it. 302 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Now you're looking at this entirely differently. Okay, what what 303 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to see is, Okay, create your condition where 304 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: they create your condition, where the car doesn't start. Okay, 305 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: ground one side of the pump and run a twelve 306 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: vault fused jumper wire to the other side. Does the 307 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: does the pump run? Yes? Or no? If the pump runs, 308 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: it's not the pump, then you don't have it. Then 309 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: you have voltage, but you don't have ground. You just 310 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: told me two minutes ago when you said the car died. 311 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: I asked you, do you have power back there? You 312 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: said yes? Right, So who cares what the relay is doing? 313 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Stop running yourself around in circles. Pick up the Pick 314 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,479 Speaker 1: a direction, right, pick a direction. Let's go with it. 315 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: It's a simple. It's a simple to wire fuel pump. 316 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: There's nothing crazy about this. It's not pulse with modulated, 317 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: it's on off. Do you have power and ground? And 318 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: that's why that's why I'm pointing out you have power? 319 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Do you have a good ground? The best way I 320 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: know to check for ground on anything electrical, the easiest 321 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: way for do it yourself or wireding a big old 322 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: school headlamp. If it lights a headlamp, that circuit's got 323 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: power and ground. That component has to run. If that 324 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: component doesn't run, it's bad or there's a break between 325 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: the socket and the component. Makes sense, Yeah, I'll give 326 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: that a try. Now, if you can't get the headlight 327 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: to light, that's a that's a horse of another color. Now, 328 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: if you can't get the headlight to light, what's the 329 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: first thing you're gonna do? Right? And if you have 330 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: power in the headlights still doesn't light, where's your problem? 331 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Probably a ground? Right? You see how we just took 332 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: that circuit apart for a ten dollar headlam m. Yeah 333 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: all right, so let's go. Let's go do those things. 334 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Get over to your local Railioto parts. You can find 335 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: them online at Raloto dot com they'll be glad to 336 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: help you out. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, 337 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: just a basic, you know, old school headlight, and uh, 338 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: you'll be amazed. Why do you have a bad blower 339 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: motor in a car and you're looking for a way 340 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: to prove does the does the is it the blower motor? 341 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Is it the circuit? Is it the switch? You want 342 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: to try something fun if you like working on cars, 343 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: Take an old school headlamp, Hook it up to the 344 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: blower motor circuit. Put it on low. The light glows dim. 345 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: Put it on second speed, the light grows brighter. Put 346 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: it on third speed. The light grows even brighter. Put 347 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: it on high. The light glows as bright as it's 348 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: supposed to when it's on the car driving down the road. Why. 349 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: Because you're just proving the switch, the variable resistor, the circuit, 350 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: the wiring, the connector is all good. If the blower 351 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: motor doesn't work, it's a bad blower. It's that simple. Well, 352 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: I hope sounds simple. I hope it is. It is, 353 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: so just don't reorderthink it all right, kiddo, I'm here 354 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: next week. You know where to find me. You're very 355 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: welcome You're very welcome, Terry, good luck. Yeah, we can't. 356 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: We can't make things complicated, folks. It just you know, 357 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: get back to basics. Just don't reach too far out listen. 358 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it too. Sometimes I don't see the 359 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: simple stuff I had. I had a customer this week, 360 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: tell me I was. I was talking about his oil change. 361 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: His oil change was due in July, but he just 362 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: hit the oil change mileage mark last week. And I said, rich, 363 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: why And he said, but run I didn't have a 364 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: mileage on it. But it's an either or, I said, 365 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: you don't get to pick. Oh, time counts. You know what, 366 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't hit that point enough. Yeah, time counts. 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Gotta look at both. Keep it simple. I'm running any 368 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. I'm coming back right after this. 369 00:18:39,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back when I'm meeting the car Doctor. 370 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking around and being part of us this afternoon. Uh, 371 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, let's get on over and talk to Jim 372 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin and O too, Chevy Trailblazer. Jim, Welcome upwards, sir. 373 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: How can I help? How you doing? Thanks for taking 374 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: my calle love your show. We do it all the time. Um, 375 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: we gotta we got an oil weak. Um, there's not 376 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: a lot of miles on a vehicle except for a while. Um, 377 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm noticing oil I'm going through when I run it 378 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: heavy on the highway, A couple of courts maybe every 379 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred miles. But the thing is, I'm kind of 380 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: wondering if it's a valve cover gasket weak or I'll 381 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: tell you, I'll make it quick. I I got underneath 382 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: their jacked it up. Um, there's a power steering boot 383 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: underneath there, and and I squeezed that and oil came 384 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: out of there. So you're seeing fluid drops on the ground, right, Jim, 385 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: So it's it's not well, you know, I think you've 386 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: got two things going on here, all right. I think 387 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: you've got an oil consumption issue. Al right, from the 388 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: sounds of it, you went through how many quarts an 389 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: eight hundred miles? Probably two quarts, So you're burning oil. 390 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: So you know, first things first, how many miles are 391 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: on this car? This truck. It's not a lot, but 392 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: it but it it was original owner, but it it's 393 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: sad for two years. But that's that's the only thing. 394 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: The guy already replaced a lot of other stuff on 395 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: it before I bought it, right, right, Um, so we've 396 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: we've we've got to know a couple of things here, 397 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: and we've got to be concerned about a couple of things. Uh, 398 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: first of all, do you have you know an oil 399 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: consumption problem? Sounds like it. So let's let's let's fill 400 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: it up to the right level. Let's make sure the 401 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: level is right, and then let's drive it. Let's puts 402 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: on it. You're gonna you're gonna go. You think you'll 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: go through a court in four hundred miles. Yeah, okay, 404 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: so a quart in four hundred miles should be an 405 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: oil leak that by now the rear bumper is coded, 406 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: it's weatherproofed. You don't have to worry about those tough 407 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: Wisconsin winters because there's gonna be oil underneath the under 408 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: carriage of the truck. So you you've got a massive 409 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: oil leak somewhere. If there isn't, now you've got a 410 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: bigger problem because now it's burning it internally. You know, 411 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: this is sort of like there's bad news and there's 412 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: worse news. You know, there's no there's no good news here. 413 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: If you don't see any oil leaks to that magnitude 414 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: and it doesn't appear you know, listen, I'm willing to accept, 415 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, seeping out of the corner of the valve 416 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: cover's heck, I'm willing to accept it's dripping on the 417 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: exhaust manifold and making a little smell a court in 418 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: four miles. You know how big a quart oil is? 419 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: Take a quarter take a quart of water and knock 420 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: it over in your garage and watch how far that 421 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: water goes. You know, that's a lot of oil, brother, 422 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: all right. See, and it's spraying all over the turpentine 423 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: belt and all over the engine and everything. Are you 424 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: are you seeing oil all over the inside of the 425 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: engine compartment. So then it sounds like you've got two problems. 426 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: It sounds like you've got a power steering rack leak. 427 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you've got some kind of front 428 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: engine cover valve cover area leak. I mean, and listen, 429 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: it could have more than one, ohiel leak. All right, 430 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: So see that's just doesn't the miles doesn't matter there. 431 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: But that's a two thousand two. And then that's the 432 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: first one they came out with, and I just I 433 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I bought it because the guy told me it was 434 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: a two thousand four, and I then I found out 435 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: it was a two thousand two. But that's the first 436 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: one the Blazer came out with. Does that matter or not? Really? 437 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Not really? Listen, it doesn't matter now, it doesn't matter. 438 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: Now you won't have to check clear it's yours, right, 439 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: you know. And now we've got to make you look 440 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: good because you're wife's going. You know, I told you 441 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: not to buy that truck, right, am I lying? Right? Yeah, 442 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: that's right. You know what, MoMA's mom is always right. 443 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: If mom is not right, mom is not happy. And 444 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. Okay, Well I'll do a 445 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: little digging and then i'll get back to you. And 446 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: with the COVID, you guys are still doing the show 447 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: every week. Yeah, we're here, We're here every week. I 448 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: don't I don't have to see Tom anymore. We've got 449 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: we're on remote software out of the studio. Tom somewhere 450 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: in New York. I'm not quite sure where he is. 451 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: How's that going? That better? Or I kind of miss 452 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: I like it because I don't have to look at Ron. Well, 453 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: I miss it. I miss it because there's there's there's 454 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: nobody to kick me. But um, you know what we 455 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: uh we kind of rocked and rolled and reacted to 456 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the COVID thing and we're making it work. So you 457 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: guys listen, You guys don't see half of what goes 458 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: on around here. You have to be here. Thursday night, 459 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: we put two new computers in the studio and a 460 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: new laptop and trying to get everything wired up before 461 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: the show. It was it was kind of it was 462 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of hysterical because we're we're working our way through 463 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: some Windows ten stuff. But uh, you know you're you're 464 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: always here for for us, right absolutely. I'm not going anywhere, Jim. 465 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: I'll be here for you until the Lord takes me. 466 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay to you to be well, um yeah, that's tom 467 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: Are we're gonna be here that long? Really? What if 468 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: we want what if we want to go out to lunch? Well, 469 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a different story. You know. Well, well, 470 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: you know there are delivery services like door Dash, so 471 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: we're all set. You know, we could although I think 472 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: we'll be at well that's a whole another conversation. By 473 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: the way, do you think next hour? You know who 474 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: I missed talking to me? Okay, then I'll tell you 475 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: the story later, so I'm not I'm not gonna tell 476 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: you now, but I have a job for you for 477 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: next hour, so we'll see if we'll see if you 478 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: can pull it off. Let's let's go over to Brian 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: in Maine and start that conversation. I don't know if 480 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: we'll finish it before we go to break, but let's 481 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: see what's going on here, Brian. Welcome aboard, sir, Ron 482 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Andy and at your service, good sir, what's going on? Uh? 483 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: You know to make model the truck um tony nineteen 484 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: Silverado recorded times good, let's get a vibration to it. 485 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: Brought it back, uh, several times they did the drive shaft. 486 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: Thought it was drive train. I think it still might be. 487 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: Uh eight drive shaft, new drive shaft, new rear end, 488 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: new tires. Uh. I thought it was corrected, drove it back, 489 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: still doing it. I'm not sure if it might be 490 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: some front carrier bearing or or what it might be. 491 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: But it's kind of little irritating that that it does. 492 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: It's probably between forty eight and sixty two miles per hour, 493 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: very consistent, all right, and when when it's doing it, 494 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: if you put the truck in neutral and coast. Does 495 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: the vibration go away? Uh? No, so it's still there. 496 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: So still there. So this is speed related, not drive 497 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: load related. I I don't I don't believe that it's uh, 498 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: drive load related. Like I said, I've pretty much tried 499 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: everything uphill, downhill corners, UH, certain different speed, but it 500 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: always goes right back to uh what's going on with it? Um? 501 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: And it's very light um, almost like you were like 502 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: the two parts of it baron, Like you get your 503 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: outside part kind of spinning quite as fast as the 504 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: center of spinning. UM. I don't know where to go 505 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: with it. You know, they've got they've got more than 506 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: a few bulletins and and uh preliminary information packets on 507 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: vibration and and all sorts of problems with those vehicles 508 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: where they talk about different things with wheels and bearings 509 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: and calibrations and but I find it interesting that the 510 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: dealer can experience this, they can feel this vibration. Do 511 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: they agree with you or they just trying to appease 512 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: you to you they agree? Well, yeah, I think I 513 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: think they have some good technicians there, and they did 514 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: find some problems with the rear end uh, and they 515 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: were pretty confident that was the the fix because there 516 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: were some issues with it, but it still didn't fix it. 517 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I think they all into this is there but there again, uh, 518 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I think they want to you know, there's only so 519 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: much money in time they want to put into something 520 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: like that, and they decide that it's with an acceptable limit. Well, okay, 521 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: so here's here's here's here's the first answer to that. 522 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: Here's here's the answer to the second part of your comment, 523 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: all right, is if they think it's within the production tolerance, 524 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: then how about they show you another twenty nineteen that 525 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: does it? Right. Listen, I've got that truck. I own 526 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: your truck. I've got a twenty nineteen Silverado Day. I 527 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: bought it new two years ago. I don't have that problem. 528 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't notice any vibration. And trust me, I'm the 529 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: princess in the pay I feel it through seven mattresses. 530 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: All right. Uh My, my truck rides steady at sixty, 531 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: at seventy, at seventy five, at forty. It's it's I 532 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: have no vibration issues. So I think the first thing 533 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: is everybody has to get on the same page that yes, 534 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: there's a problem, because otherwise anything I tell you is 535 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: going to be a waste of time. That's that's rule 536 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: number one. So you know what, it's a simple request, guys, 537 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: you want me to go away, get me another Let 538 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: me take it for a ride. Let's go for a 539 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: ride together with the technician. Let's both see that. Yeah, 540 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: this is what they do and that's a fair comment. Right, 541 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: that's that's fair for you, that's fair for them. Right. Okay, 542 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: on the chance that yours does have a vibration, that 543 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: it's a legit problem and you're rolling along, let me 544 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: clarify this. You're rolling along at you feel this vibration, 545 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: you put it into neutral and the vibration is still there, right, Okay, 546 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: What if you drove it on a lift? What if 547 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: you put this vehicle up in the air on a 548 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: lift at forty five? Sounds a little crazy, but we do. 549 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: It's gotta be it's gotta be mounted really secure. Do 550 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: you feel the vibration? Would you feel the vibration? Would 551 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: you be able to There might be a lot of 552 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: There might be a lot of banging and clanging where 553 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: things hanging that you can't duplicate it because a drive 554 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: line angle, But it's worth a try. All right. What 555 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting at is, do we have a bad rim 556 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: that they just haven't encountered yet? Do we legitimately have 557 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: a bad tire and rim? How are they balancing the tires? 558 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Are they using a standard balancer? They're using something quality 559 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: like a Hunter roadforce machine, even though the Hunter roadforce machines. 560 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: You know what a hunter roadforce machine does? You ever 561 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: look at a wheel on a balancer? How when it rotates, 562 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of a hop to it. 563 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: There's always a high spot in a low spot. It 564 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: kind of has that been right, right? So what a hunter, 565 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: what a Hunter road force does is it compensates that 566 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: that little dip in the wheel to the dip in 567 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: the tire so that it matches and it reduces the vibration. 568 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: So let's go do that. Do those three things called 569 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: me back? I want to hear. I want to hear 570 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: how a truck just like mine has a vibration and 571 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: it's normal. All right, kidd alright, you're very welcome, sir. 572 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: You let me know I'm run on any in the 573 00:29:51,960 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back 574 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: on meaning the car door. Let's do some email, Hey, Ron, 575 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: love the show. I've got a two thousand GMCCR forty 576 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: thousand miles runs great on cold mornings below thirty that's cold. 577 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: The trans will not shift until the engine temperature reaches 578 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: a hunter and ninety after that runs great old day. 579 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: I had the transmission fluid exchange and done. I thought 580 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: that would help. No luck. Only in extreme temperatures. I 581 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: have the problem. Thanks, thanks, thanks Frank. Thanks Frank kind 582 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: of rhymes from Pennsylvania and help appreciate it. You know, Frank, 583 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: the issue is when it's cold, the internal seals of 584 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: a transmission, they're shrinking there there in this case, they've shrunk. 585 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: They're they're allowing fluid to bypass, and you've got internal 586 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: issues inside the transmission. The only way, well two ways. 587 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: First way, which you know, I don't like to be 588 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: a band aid mechanic in the sense of it's in 589 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: a bottle that that should fix it. But you could. 590 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: There are products out there that will revitalize rubber seals 591 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: and help help them to swell, to see if they 592 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: will work again even in the cold temperature. It's worth 593 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: a try. You haven't got anything to lose. But at 594 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: this point, the absolute right way to fix this. If 595 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: you plan on keeping the vehicle, and while you can 596 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: still get parts, it's twenty one years old, would realistically 597 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: be rebuild the trans And you've got to look at 598 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: the whole vehicle though, before you go and do that, 599 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: just what kind of shape is the rest of the 600 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: truck in? Uh, you know. And the other thing to 601 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: look at is price out a new truck. If you 602 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: really need a pickup truck, this is probably the cheapest 603 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: one you can afford right now because a new pickup 604 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: truck they start at forty five thousand and work their 605 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: way up from there. So if it were five grand 606 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: for a trans fraction of the dollars, it's not it's 607 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: a it's a no brainer. I would definitely consider that 608 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: would probably be the way to go. Another another listener, Hey, ron, 609 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I see that the oil from my key it gets 610 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: dirty a lot faster than the oil on my Toyota Matrix. 611 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: Non g d I car, I wonder how you know that. 612 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: I've heard that carbon can build up on the valves 613 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: that let an air for combustion, and also the pistons 614 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: building up carbon on the rings and not letting them 615 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: around their slots on the pistons to ensure a tight 616 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: steel and the jug. Is that right? And do you 617 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: think it's prudent for an owner who can follow directions 618 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: to get a product like Berryman's and take Valvin combustion 619 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: cleaner and use it as long as I follow the instructions, 620 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: Could I damage anything? Or is this better to go 621 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: to a shop to do? Lee? Lee? Let's um. Let's 622 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: back up here a second. Okay, First of all, before 623 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: we judge oil strictly by color. Okay, let's take an 624 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: oil sample from both vehicles. Let's run correct oil, correct viscosity, 625 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: so forth, Let's take an oil for for analysis, and 626 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: let's send it out to the lab to get analyzed. 627 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: And let's see what they come back and tell us 628 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: are the oils the same? Are they meeting their requirements? 629 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Because this could be a condition of incorrect oils being used. 630 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's do that first and then we'll talk about what 631 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, what sort of editives to put in here. Listen, 632 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a fan of Barrriman and take Valvin 633 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: combustion cleaner. No, there's nothing you can hurt. I think 634 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: it's good normal maintenance for the vehicle. More information at 635 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: Berriman Products dot Com. But to think that that's going 636 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: to solve an oil color or oil condition issue, I 637 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: think that's a reach until we know more about the vehicle. 638 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: Let's get an oil analysis done on both vehicles and 639 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: come back with data. As we always say, math doesn't lie. 640 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm runingandy in the car doctor. I'm back right after this. 641 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: Keep broco back. Did you see the Times this week? 642 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: Was in the New York Times, it was in the 643 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: Detroit Bureau, Paul Eisenstein, a bunch of different places. The 644 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: commentary about General Motors is going to go all electric 645 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: by you know, it's funny. I was saying this this 646 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: morning to someone. I wonder how car companies think. And 647 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I know there's a reason. I know they've got their logic. 648 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: I know they've got their thought process, and you know, 649 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe they run business at a different level than me. 650 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: But I just I just don't see it. I don't 651 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: see how in fifteen years, and you know, just opinion, folks, 652 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to have that. I think I'm still allowed 653 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: to have an opinion. I don't see how in fifteen 654 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: years we're gonna be able to generate enough electricity to 655 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: power an all electric fleet. And you know it's interesting, right, 656 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: you look at General Motors. General Motors can say they're 657 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a electric Toyota hasn't said that. In Toyota 658 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: is a bigger car company than GM. And you know 659 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I saw a Ford two years ago or 660 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: a year ago. Ford gave up producing cars, right, we 661 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: remember that for it came out with that stunning announcement 662 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna produce cars anymore, and that everything was 663 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a truck. The only car Forward is going 664 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: to make. I think beginning this model year is going 665 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: to be the Mustang, and they're gonna move slowly into 666 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: all electric vehicles as well. You know what Ford did. 667 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: They gave a car business to Toyota because people are 668 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 1: still gonna want four door sedans and where they gonna 669 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: buy it Toyota, alexis right, Honda. You know the jat 670 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: in these car companies. They think different, they really do. 671 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: And you look at the electric market. Jim saying we're 672 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: gonna go all electric. What if what if we can't 673 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: make the batteries, what if we don't have the technology, 674 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: what if we don't have the infrastructure, Who's going to 675 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: support it? I want to talk about this a lot more. 676 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm just wanted to kind of get your juices flowing, 677 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: because you've got to ask yourself, you know, who's making 678 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: these decisions. A thousand things I can think of why 679 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: electric cars may not be the answer at this time, 680 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it in the future. I'm not 681 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: in any in the car, doctor, reminding you this time, 682 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: like every time, good mechanics are inexpensive their pricess. Let's 683 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: see it.