WEBVTT - I Choose …To Love Again

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I'm so happy you decided to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with me today. I cannot wait to start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>choices with you and how our choices determine our paths

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward in life. I have so much in store

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I promised you that I would share some

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<v Speaker 1>stories from my life, and that is what I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do today. I want to tell you about the

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<v Speaker 1>time I decided to let love in again. But hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do that thing. Let's go back in order to

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<v Speaker 1>go forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twelve, I went through a very public and

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<v Speaker 1>painful divorce. I spent the next couple of years grieving

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<v Speaker 1>and ventually healing. When I find resurfaced into the world,

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<v Speaker 1>back into society, people started encouraging me to get back

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<v Speaker 1>out there start dating again. That thought honestly made me

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<v Speaker 1>feel sick. But when the time felt right, I started

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<v Speaker 1>dipping my toe into that pool. And let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>my dating pool was pretty shallow. It was basically set ups,

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<v Speaker 1>friends of friends kind of thing. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing, what I was hoping to find,

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<v Speaker 1>who I would find. It was pretty brutal. I was

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<v Speaker 1>awkward and needy, not a very attractive combo. When I

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<v Speaker 1>look back now, I see a very lost lady just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to feel loved again. I was putting way too

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<v Speaker 1>much importance and focus on getting a man to love

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<v Speaker 1>me again. It was like I was throwing spaghetti against

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, just trying to figure out what would stick.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of my choices were odd to others, odd to

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<v Speaker 1>even me, and in my confused and sort of weakened

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<v Speaker 1>state of self understanding, I saw myself attaching my worth

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<v Speaker 1>to these guys who had no idea who I really

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<v Speaker 1>was and who were just not right. Yet I tried

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to make each one of them love me.

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<v Speaker 1>I so wanted to succeed in a relationship, and who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe I was trying so hard because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to show my ex what he had lost, what a

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<v Speaker 1>mistake he had made. Whatever it was, it wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to take a break from searching for that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of love altogether and just focus on my girls

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<v Speaker 1>and my job. I was doing a sitcom at the

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<v Speaker 1>time called Mystery Girls. I was also building a house,

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<v Speaker 1>a home for my new family, which was just me

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<v Speaker 1>and the girls and our dogs, and I gotta be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that vibe a lot more than dating. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really turning into a good time in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I was finding my self worth again, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>feeling confident and capable of being out there on my own.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reinventing my life. I was doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work on myself, and I started to think ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>My therapist, Wade High. Wade encouraged me to make a

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<v Speaker 1>list of my non negotiables. The things that I had

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<v Speaker 1>learned were top priorities in my next relationship, and here

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<v Speaker 1>are a few of them. Number one a family man,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who puts family form first top of the list.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two a man who keeps his word honesty very

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<v Speaker 1>important to me. Number three someone who could make me laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I really needed some laughter in my life. Number four,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was confident enough in who they were to

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<v Speaker 1>let me shine. Also a man who never complained about

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<v Speaker 1>how much luggage I packed for a trip. And there

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<v Speaker 1>were others, but I don't remember what they are right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was my list, my list of non negotiables.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I did so I would know when someone

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<v Speaker 1>came along and checked the boxes. But all the while

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking myself, do I even really ever want

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<v Speaker 1>a man in my life again? Which, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a middle aged woman who's gone through a divorce,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a valid question to ask yourself. So now it

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of twenty fourteen, and what they say

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<v Speaker 1>is true. It happens when you least expect it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it helped me tell the story. I want to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to the man who loves to let me shine.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you all to meet my hubs, Dave Abrams, Hi, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking we could talk about how we met.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I like that story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, people like to know these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody loves a what's it called a cute meat meet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like cute me because you know ours of

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<v Speaker 1>ours was a blind meet.

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<v Speaker 2>Cute. Do you remember the story? Because I remember you

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of You get a lot of flak

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<v Speaker 2>for your memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but I remember the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to tell it? Yeah? How about you? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go with that, okay. So what was what was

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<v Speaker 2>your perspective on a blind date?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going to talk Oh my god, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend who was uh seeing a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>younger than her. She had just been divorced not that

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, and now she was seeing a younger man.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, that's so cool. When we started

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<v Speaker 1>we chatted. She was a school friend, yeah, school friend,

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<v Speaker 1>a mommy friend of mine at school, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>we were on our yearly camp out at El Capitan,

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<v Speaker 1>uh huh, and she said to me, would you be

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<v Speaker 1>open to meeting my boyfriends, one of his best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I wasn't really even like at

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<v Speaker 1>the place of wanting to meet anybody, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the place in my life after the divorce where

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<v Speaker 1>I had done a ton of work and I was

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<v Speaker 1>finally happy on my own. I felt really strong, really confident.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she said that to me, and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll practice. Let me practice. I need to practice dating.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went what they set up a blind date

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<v Speaker 1>basically with us, and it was like a double date.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when you googled me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>People do that. Yeah, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna go out with somebody and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a blond day you google them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know there was at the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I don't know, if Dave Abrams the

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<v Speaker 2>Chippendale dancer, if you're out there, Dave, he's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a nice physique.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because when you google Dave vid or Dave Abrams, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was coming up a Chipendale dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Google's all it's all something else, it's all Jenny and Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just Jenny and David.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways. But I thought I was going on a double

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<v Speaker 1>date with a Chippendale dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, little did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I knew by the time I got to the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were a Chipendale's dancer. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>walk in. I did walk in, and immediately what.

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<v Speaker 2>The bar was a crowded by the way, you were

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<v Speaker 2>late whatever. Do you know how many minutes late? You

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh my god, you do yeah, fifteen minutes late.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure it wasn't sixteen minutes, No, fifteen okay.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. And you were wearing all black and you

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<v Speaker 2>out of your hair was cut at a bob and

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<v Speaker 2>a bob. That's cute. Looking back, you ordered like.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I was talking, this is what happened. I was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>When I walked into the thing, into the bar. It

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<v Speaker 1>was crowded, and immediately my eyes went to a tall

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<v Speaker 1>man standing at the bar, like your typical actor, like

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<v Speaker 1>LA guy that really handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd tee offense to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And immediately I said, oh m hmm. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>introduced me to you, and you were that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we sat down us four, and we ordered some drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>You said nothing, and then they proceeded to talk. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really feel social. I wasn't in a social

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<v Speaker 1>mood to begin with for some reason. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just it felt awkward. I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>being interviewed almost, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They were talking about nine oh two and oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I, all, I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You never watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't know. I mean my sister did. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I knew. I mean obviously I knew of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I googled you. You Google. The first thing out of

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<v Speaker 2>my mouth when I was approached to go in the

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<v Speaker 2>state was oh, she's three kids. All right, Well whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go. Ah and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you probably should have really thought that through a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, yeah, that's probably a thing I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think. So I went in there and yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say a word and you ordered pasta and salt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very foodie restaurant, and you know I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like food.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking back, yeah, I was like, oh, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to try this? This this place is really good fish pasta. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like anyways, looking back, it makes complete a get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we left the restaurant. They were leaving and

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<v Speaker 2>you're we were going to valet. You gave the ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Your car got pulled up right in front of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying, I walked over to you and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, after what did we say? Like three sentences

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<v Speaker 2>of each other. I was like, well, it was really

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<v Speaker 2>nice meeting you. Can I call you sometime. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a like you were going to be like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>see you and you're like no, but you can follow me,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I first thought was oh on Instagram. No.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, no, dummy, follow me in your car.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were on the yeah, and then you like

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<v Speaker 2>like a like a bat out of hell.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't drive fast, and I like, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>accused of driving like an old man, I do the

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<v Speaker 2>speed limit. My motto is I don't. I ain't got

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere to be. That's gonna kill me. Okay, and you

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<v Speaker 2>flew and we were in silver Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to I did that intentionally. I drove like

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<v Speaker 1>that intentionally, and I spoke to you like that intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>because I needed to know if you were on the

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<v Speaker 1>same level as me, like, hmmm, a little crazy, spontaneous,

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<v Speaker 1>a little a little wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, yeah, I guess I was. You were. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like that though I probably would have went over

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<v Speaker 2>and went to bed, but I followed you. We went

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<v Speaker 2>to this little place called Cafe.

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<v Speaker 1>Stella, had a little drink at the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to know each other, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Started to make me laugh. Yeah, almost instantly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, he's not just a pretty face. He's

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<v Speaker 1>actually funny and fun to hang out with. I like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, and you were hot, which started just like

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<v Speaker 1>change my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Well thank you for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you were like fun and beautiful and refreshing and

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<v Speaker 2>to the point, not a lot of bullshit. When we

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<v Speaker 2>left Cafe Cella, I walked you out to the valet.

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<v Speaker 1>And was that our first kid?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember it. How was it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was good? I got tingles, yeah, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>said goodbye. I lived kind of closed. You lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Studio City, so you lived a little bit further away.

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<v Speaker 2>I got home right but right when I pulled into

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<v Speaker 2>my driveway, I remember getting a text and you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you want one more drink.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, what time is it now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god? That was well. That place was closing, Cafe's eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>We are wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night, eleven o'clock. You text you want one more

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<v Speaker 2>drink a baye bar, and you sent me this address.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I lived in Studio City. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the bay bar. What bar is this?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you're telling this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I drove over there and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know this bar. I'm going up a hill.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all residential, residential canyon. And I get to a

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<v Speaker 2>gate and I text you I'm here, and the gate

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<v Speaker 2>just opens. I pull in. There's no no, the lights

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of off, there's no one. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in there. And I walked to the front door.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a beautiful, beautiful house. But I'm thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>what the absolute hell am I doing? What what am

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<v Speaker 2>I doing? And then we had a we had a

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<v Speaker 2>nice evening.

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<v Speaker 1>We chatted, you came to the bay bar, came to

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<v Speaker 1>the bar at a bar then, Yeah, and we named

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<v Speaker 1>it the Babe bar because it was all girls at

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<v Speaker 1>my house at the time and there's.

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<v Speaker 2>The big bar. When we sat and we chatted and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was it. Came to see the next

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<v Speaker 2>day at work, it was mosy on up at the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean instantly it was we were on that was.

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<v Speaker 2>It over done?

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't look back, Nope, didn't listen to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>No, m did we have anybody? There was anybody like

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<v Speaker 2>objecting on your side when we were first together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what if I tell you that now? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to be mad at them?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Not at all? No, Wait, who I remember? I

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<v Speaker 2>remember Luca, But Luca was also seventeen, about to be eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a pretty significant opposer. Yeah, our oldest daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean senior in high school. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And then we kind of threw that on her. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, by the way, we're getting married after being together

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<v Speaker 1>for three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after your graduation in July. Wait you graduate June.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, then we're gonna have a wedding. Wait who who? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think. I don't think that mister Showbiz objected,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least if he did, or if there was

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<v Speaker 1>any conversation about it, he never told me. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to ask him now, like, was there something you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell me but you never did?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm for sure it was in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>his head.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you did your my mom never said because

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<v Speaker 1>she really liked you and she loved what you brought

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<v Speaker 1>to our family.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm. Kind of the same background, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of were raised in the same like old fashion. Your

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<v Speaker 2>mom's very old fashioned Midwest. Uh, and so was your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so mister Shobbs didn't object. My mom didn't object. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Adele didn't object. She met you, she vetted you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I met Adele, like what was it this

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<v Speaker 2>second or second week we were together?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she loved you. I met your friends mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I when my the friend who introduced us

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<v Speaker 2>already knew you, sort of like acquaintances, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>my other friends were yeah. On board. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>all thought I was nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back, do you think you were nuts for making

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<v Speaker 1>that decision? Mmm?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, looking back, yeah, I feel like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a nutty decision. But I wouldn't have done anything different.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really. I think I don't really have a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we joked sometimes and say, probably should have

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<v Speaker 1>thought that through a little better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even if we had thought it through, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you had more time to think it through, you were

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying you would still make the same Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have made the same decision absolutely, What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I would have made the same decision too, only because

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<v Speaker 1>I am crazy and I love adventure and I'm you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like this just seemed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in the beginning, it's always you know, fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you had jobs, and we went on some trips,

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<v Speaker 2>like we went to Arizona and then we went to

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<v Speaker 2>Cabo and then we went all over the place. So

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<v Speaker 2>yeah that eventually the trips fizzle out and.

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<v Speaker 1>Life gets real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, like, once the glitter wears off of

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<v Speaker 1>this new relationship and the excitement of it all, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen? Yeah, And we were faced with that

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<v Speaker 1>reality very early, like literally like a month after we

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<v Speaker 1>got married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was crazy. Thrust here you go

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<v Speaker 2>into the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because your life it's not I mean, our

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<v Speaker 1>lives both changed. I would say your life changed drastically. Drastically.

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<v Speaker 1>You went from a single.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy living in a one bedroom apartment to moving into

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a nicer house in Studio City.

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<v Speaker 2>Three four dogs again at the time, three step children,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, I'm taking you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the girls to school and walking them into class because

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<v Speaker 2>this was you know, they were still in the lower school,

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<v Speaker 2>was the lower in upper school, and everybody would take

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<v Speaker 2>the kids in in the morning and you'd have stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and we were like delegating between like Peter

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<v Speaker 2>had them one week and then we had them the

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<v Speaker 2>other week.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were so great though, you just really jumped

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<v Speaker 1>into everything with both feet, like you dove in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it. And also it was crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>like being in that situation all of a sudden, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at this like prominent Los Angeles school with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other celebrities walking these kids in and then like.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you starstruck?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, you forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have been because you before me, you were

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<v Speaker 1>the guy at the grocery store who looked at like

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<v Speaker 1>the National Inquirer and US Weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I love the check Yeah yeah, I like.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't love that stuff. Yeah yeah, I don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>look at those but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That whole situation and then that school, and and just

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<v Speaker 2>like then the events that the school would do, and

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<v Speaker 2>then becoming like you know, being around those other parents

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<v Speaker 2>that are are celebrities looking.

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<v Speaker 1>At was really intimidating for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do again, Dave? Well, I'm opening

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant bar oh where Rampart, which to anyone that

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<v Speaker 2>knows it's not a great area, they would never go

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<v Speaker 2>to Rampart in East LA. But uh yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna come down check it out. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you should.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't move in right away, No.

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<v Speaker 2>We waited. I slept when the kids were home. I

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<v Speaker 2>slept in the guest room. That's so cute. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it was like literally like warp speed and went

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<v Speaker 2>from that to like stepdad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and looking back, this is something we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in a future episode because it's a pretty significant

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<v Speaker 1>part of our.

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<v Speaker 2>Well perfect I like waiting to talk about things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're gonna have to wait because this is a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger subject. But I think because we did fast track everything,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of like learning and growing on

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<v Speaker 1>both our parts, but mostly on your part. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in like having a family like that and being having

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<v Speaker 1>all these responsibilities put upon you and yeah, and having

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<v Speaker 1>to like model for the kids a certain behavior, and

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<v Speaker 1>just you and I getting on the same page about parenting, which.

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<v Speaker 2>That really wasn't that difficult, right, That wasn't That wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>but we did.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is we did reach some obstacles that we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get passed or we thought we couldn't get past,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't. It took us a while, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you realized, Okay, I'm swimming in the deep

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<v Speaker 1>end and I need a life preserver.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then also if you if you take a

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<v Speaker 2>step back and look at bigger picture, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>kids were involved, and that's that's the main thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>so then all your crazy stuff that's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>your head that like it may seem overwhelming, Well, you

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.159
<v Speaker 2>made this choice and we have to like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>figure this out. And we did. We we're still going

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<v Speaker 2>to therapy and and doing a lot of like work.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was, it was we reached an impasse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we weren't doing we weren't doing the right work.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was actually we were trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else to do it for us in a weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense to you at all? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Well we did go to like three different therapists, and

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, Barbara.

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<v Speaker 1>We tried some things. We really did try.

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<v Speaker 2>We gave it all we did, and we reached.

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<v Speaker 1>It and passed it. We'll talk about that in another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But because I have some notes for that, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it says I didn't do anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, not at all. But I'm really proud of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of us for like finding somebody Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I found you, I knew this is a good man.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a person that I can see in my home,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see around my kids, and I can see

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<v Speaker 1>growing into you know, who we're going to be as

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<v Speaker 1>a couple. I can see that with them. Yeah, you

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 1>were very willing and like you seem like you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it too.

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I did. But But does this make sense

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<v Speaker 2>without knowing it? You know, just just really being in

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 2>love with you? Kind of took over everything. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, if that's there, then you know we

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<v Speaker 2>can do anything. There's obviously, you know, more to that,

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 2>because they say, you know, love conquers all, it actually does,

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>but you know it's not. You know, there's there's that

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<v Speaker 2>other there's that other layer to it that you really

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<v Speaker 2>have to work on. But I was just so in

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<v Speaker 2>love with you. I was. I was in love with

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<v Speaker 2>the kids. I was, you know, in love with an

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 2>exciting life that we can make, and then you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think about all the other stuff, A lot of

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>other stuff. Yep.

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>We threw caution to the winds, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked out. I mean, it's working out.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want it any other way.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a choice we have to make every day.

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<v Speaker 1>We chose each other that first night.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You said before that you didn't know if mister Showbiz

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<v Speaker 1>approved of you. Did you know that he listens to

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<v Speaker 1>every recording of this podcast, so we can ask him

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<v Speaker 1>right now in real wa. Yeah, Hey, mister I heard

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<v Speaker 1>Days say something before you started recording where he mentioned me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I hope that.

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<v Speaker 2>That she doesn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a problem because I specifically did not I

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<v Speaker 1>had a problem with several other guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, I know, yes, I know about that, but

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<v Speaker 2>not this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not not this guy.

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Not this guy.

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get a T shirt for you that says,

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<v Speaker 1>not this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Not this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, it's just me again. I'm wondering what you

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>guys are thinking of me right now because that was

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:20.199
<v Speaker 1>pretty bold. But you know what, I honestly have no

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>shame in that game. I had been letting men lead

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>me around for long enough, letting the man make the moves,

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>make the decisions on whether to move forward in the

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>relationship or not. And I was over that. I was

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>over being the passenger in that car. And here's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>I had started loving my life again, choosing what I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I was choosing me for the very first time in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. And that is exactly when it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe sometimes in life, when you find something you

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<v Speaker 1>really want, something that feels right, you just have to

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>put it all on the line. You have to go

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>for it. And that is what I did. I went

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<v Speaker 1>for it because at the end of the day, I

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>really did want what we all want, love loyalty, companionship.

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<v Speaker 1>Would I make the same decision again, Yes, Yes, I would, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't always been easy, but I would absolutely choose

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 1>love again. Choosing to love again after heartbreak it's a

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<v Speaker 1>profound act of courage, and it is complicated. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging the pain of the past, but at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time refusing to let that pain define our future. It

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<v Speaker 1>involves embracing vulnerability, opening ourselves up to that possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>hurt all over again, and trusting that we are worthy

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<v Speaker 1>of love. One of the biggest challenges is overcoming that

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<v Speaker 1>fear of getting hurt again, because after experiencing heartbreak, it's

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<v Speaker 1>natural to build walls around our hearts to protect ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But those walls can also prevent us from fully experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>love and connection again. And I know it is so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to let go of that past baggage and those

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<v Speaker 1>old stories and those old insecurities. But I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to see that each new relationship is an opportunity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to reinvent yourself and your life, just like

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<v Speaker 1>I did. It's a choice, and it's a choice. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you find the courage to invite into your life too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you now. I want you to go look

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror and tell yourself that you love you too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right here next week. I hope you will