1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: hello everybody, we'll welcome to move the Sticks. Presented by 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: A A R. P In for DJ today. I am 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: Rett Louis here with Bucky Brooks International Bucky Brooks. He 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: is still in London and glad to have you with 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: us here, Buck. I guess DJ is uh is finally 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: just taking matters into his own hands. Uh, he is. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Finally he's doing what he can to engineer a winning 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: season for the Padres. He's down at the MLB winner 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: meetings today, I guess apparently on the lookout for a catcher. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's that funny because he is, like 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: I know, he is in his own personal heven, He's 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: such a big Padres fan. Yeah. I'm actually excited to 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: get any hear what he brings back from those baseball 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: meetings because we love the teams on the process, and 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: I do believe that some of the things that you 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: use to build other teams and other sports are applicable 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: to Sure so to be great to get his insight 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: on how to build a great team, how to be 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: able to grate organization from some of the best ball Yeah, 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: no question. Excited about that to see what DJ brings back. Uh, 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: he'll be back later this week. So uh, look, Bucky, 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm interested man, because on this on this episode today, 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna have quite a bit of college football talk here. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the Heisman finalists who were just 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: announced yesterday, Joe Burrow, Justin Fields, Chase Young, Jalen Hurts, 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: but sure does feel like it's Joe Burrow running away. 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: We'll also react to the conference championship games kind of 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of do a little bit of a mini takeaway 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: pod um which we do every Monday. Here I moved 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: the sticks. We'll give our our top three kind of 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: takeaways from championship weekend um, and then we'll take a 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: look ahead at the final four the College Football Playoff 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: this year, which of course features l S, U Ohio State, Clemson, 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: and now Oklahoma in there at the fourth spot. So 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: we'll get into all that. But I want to first, Bucky, 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: give me a sense of because I know you're in London. 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: I know you're working doing some work with Sky Sports, 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: and um, I I know that the fans in London 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: are into NFL foot ball. We see that every year 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: you're inning, you're out, and they packed the stadium, pack 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Wimbley or or the Tottenham Hotspur stadium to watch the 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: NFL games. But how do they feel about Monday night football? 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny, like they're excited about 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: all football. And and let me tell you, if you 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: are UH football fan over here in the UK and 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: you're staying up from a stand up to watch the 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Monday night football game that starts at one twenty local 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: time local times, So if you're really committed to being 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: like the biggest football fan in the UK, you have 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: a level of dedication sees anything that I've experienced, because 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, like having worked all 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: day Sunday and trying to stay up to watch the 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Sunday night game. Man, it wipes you out on that. 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: And so then to think, oh, I'm gonna sleep all 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: day Monday, and then I'm gonna do it again and 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: stay up from one to four five in the morning 58 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: to watch the Monday night game, it is just I mean, 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: it's a bear because it kind of sets you back 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: for a day or so to kind of get your 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: bearing straight. No no doubt. I mean, if I was, 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, back twenty years old again. Um, it might 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: it might actually be really fun. You know, it might 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: be a great way to come home from a great 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: night and just sit down and take in some football. Yeah. 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of the same thing for how 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: we take in a lot of big time soccer matches 68 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: here in the US. You know, it's like I drive 69 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: to work on Sunday past one of the one of 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: the bars here in Culver City that's a that is 71 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: a a soccer bar, and it's packed at seven in 72 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: the morning, people outside having a great time. They're watching 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: they're watching soccer. So I guess it's just it's kind 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: of the flip side of it. But man, one am, 75 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a tough kickoff for Monday night football. 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you saw then of 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Eli Manning's return to the starting lineup. Okay, so I 78 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: was able to get on and check it out. Well, look, man, 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: it was it was. It was good for me to see. 80 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know that I'm I'm close with you, 81 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I I um, you know, close with the Manning family, 82 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: and um, I really was excited for him to get 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: another opportunity and to see him out there again. I 84 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: had the family up in the stands watching and Philly 85 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and look. For the first half, man, I was like, 86 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: this could this could be writing a pretty good story here. Uh. 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of touchdown passes to Darius Slayton, 88 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: a couple of really nice balls. He gets him in 89 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the right play, does that all the time. Uh. And 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: then the second half, things, you know, just start falling apart, 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: not necessarily all on him. I know he'll tell you 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: he wishes he could have made a couple of a 93 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: couple of more passes, a couple of more completions and 94 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: keep some drives going. They uh, they weren't able to 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: extend many drives in the second half, end up going 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: overtime and then losing. Didn't even getting a shot at 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: it with the Giants defense giving up giving up the 98 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: touchdown right off the bat to the Eagles. But I 99 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: guess you got a credit the Eagles too, Buck for 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: coming out in the second half of figuring things out 101 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. You know, it's such a weird game, man, 102 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: because the Giants appeared to have control of the game 103 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: most of the first half and even into the third quarter. Uh, 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Eli did get out into a nice rhythm. The ball 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: came out quick. Uh, they were they were a little 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: balanced and you could sail his experience. It's really helped 107 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: the Giants offense kind of get jump started. Um. The 108 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: defense played well to a point. And you're talking about 109 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: the Philodephia Eagles team that didn't have many weapons, Like 110 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: even when they were healthy, they didn't have any explosive players. 111 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: The most explosive offensive players that they have as mile standings, 112 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: and when they're not able to get him the ball 113 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: in open field, they have a tough time generating explosive plays. 114 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: And so the Giants had locked him up and then 115 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: all shan Jeffrey goes out. Um, I mean they're playing 116 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean what j j are saying. The whiteside goes 117 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: out there playing with Greg Wood and three tight ends. Yeah, 118 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: it was basically one one white out in the second 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver on the field. And then they kind of 120 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: found a rhythm and Carson Wentz got into it. And 121 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: so Carson Wentz kind of blotted out a performance that 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: would have been a solid one from Eli, one that 123 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: would have been I wouldn't say storybook. He didn't necessarily play, 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: but it would have been a feel good story for 125 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: the Giants in the season that has really been absolutely 126 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: miserable to see the franchise leader to the quarterback, get 127 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: us anonymous with two Super Bowl win kind of go 128 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: out in a blaze of glory. I kind of robbed 129 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: them of having that moment and a rock Delf having 130 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: his moment because the defense couldn't hold up. I remember 131 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: listening to Lisa psalters H at the end of halftime 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: coming back for the start of the second half, and 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: she was relaying the conversation she had with Pat Shermer 134 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: uh coming back onto the field, and she was and 135 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: she said that, you know, he kept saying, you got 136 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: we we gotta run the Look, things are going well, 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Helies playing well. Uh, you know, we've got some points 138 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: on the board. We gotta keep this going on in 139 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: the second we gotta run the ball more. I was like, okay, yeah, 140 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean that makes a lot of sense. I mean, 141 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: you've spent you know, the number two overall pick on 142 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley and seventeen carries for sixty six yards 143 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: just doesn't do it for me. Um and the seventeen 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: carries is a healthy number at this day and age 145 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: for a for a running back. But I still think 146 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: there's got to be a better way to get se 147 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley involved in the offense. For for the Giants, 148 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean he's their best player. Yeah, you know, like, 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: and here's the thing and read and go all the 150 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: way back to the year he was coming out and 151 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: the way that he played at Penn State, and what 152 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: we talked about on pass to the draft was say, 153 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is not necessarily a guy that's gonna give 154 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: you a steady diet of four and five runs. If 155 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: you go back and look at the way that he 156 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: played at Penn State, he was a one to minus 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: three fifty five six minus three, minus seven. Yeah. Yeah. 158 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: So he is a bit of a scattershop player. And 159 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Barry Sanders, but he is Barry Sanders, 160 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: like in terms of the way that he would produce 161 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: his production. Barry Sanders was one of those guys that 162 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some negative runs, you don't have some 163 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: stretches where it doesn't pop, but you have to give 164 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: him enough opportunities. I think the bigger thing for the 165 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Giant is looking at that offensive line and the investment 166 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: that they've made in that offensive line. That offensive line 167 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: doesn't generate the kind of push in the run game 168 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: nor the protect in the past game that you would 169 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: expect Nate Soldier. Nate Solder has been a big flop 170 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: on a major stage in New York. Like, he cannot 171 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: play at a high enough level to kind of justify 172 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: what they pay to get him, and it really affects 173 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: them because they can't win the line of scrimmage, and 174 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: without being able to win the line of scrimmage, they 175 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: can't run the ball, and they can't keep a quarterback 176 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: protected enough to really be able to attack down the field. Yeah, 177 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: I think that started to become even more apparent last night. 178 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: In fact, I was on Twitter and watching Brian Baldinger 179 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: was just livid of the fact that they were actually 180 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: trying to give Soldier help to deal with Vinny Curry. 181 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, you're bringing a tight end end to chip 182 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: with Soldier, who you're paying fifteen million year. You know, 183 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: at that point you had made him the highest paid 184 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: offensive linement in the year. He's like, you got he's 185 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: got to be able to block Vinny Curry. One on 186 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: one like that's just got to happen, right, he has 187 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: to be able to do it, like he has to 188 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: be able to win his one on one then. So 189 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: that's the thing that is disturbing, Like people when we 190 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: talked about three age, so much of it is about 191 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: the cost and and all that, But really what you're 192 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: paying for is premier performance in big games. And I mean, 193 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: look when you're twoing whatever they are. Um, I don't 194 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: know if you have big games. But what you're doing 195 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: is I'm saying, may Solder, by paying you this money 196 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: and by saying you are franchise tackle, we can then 197 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: send all the help to the causer side. We shouldn't 198 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: have to pay you big money and help you do that. 199 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: We're wrong in our evaluation on what you can do, 200 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: what you're gonna add to this team. Correct. So the 201 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: look and again this game will come down to in 202 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: the second half, the Giants could not can They could 203 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: not sustain drives. There were two for twelve on third down. 204 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: The Eagles had twenty seven first downs in this game 205 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: compared to eleven for the Giants, and the majority of 206 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: those first downs for the Eagles coming in the second half. 207 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: A bunch of them coming on that overtime drive as well. 208 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: That was really impressive with the limited um the limited 209 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: UH skill position group that the Eagles ended up throwing 210 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: out there. So look, the Eagles stay alive, uh the Cowboys. 211 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: The Cowboys and the Eagles keep keeping each other alive. 212 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: In the NFC East, somebody is going to win this division. 213 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that it will not be the 214 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Redskins of the Giants. So one of these two teams 215 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: has to step up and take control. Excited to watch 216 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: them actually play in weeks sixteen and see which one 217 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: can outlast and win the NFC East. Okay, let's get 218 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: into some of the college football talk here, Bucky, and 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: we just found out yesterday the Heisman finalists were announced 220 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: in not really any surprise. Joe Burrow of l s 221 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: U Justin Fields, the first year starting quarterback at Ohio State, 222 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: and then his teammate Chase Young on the other side, 223 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: who did miss some games but still gets the invite 224 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: to New York based on just how dominant he was 225 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: in the games he was available for Ohio State and 226 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: a guy we thought, you know, maybe in the first 227 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: four or five weeks of the season was the odds on, 228 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, the odds on favorite in Jalen Hurts from 229 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: Oklahoma UM and then kind of fell up the math 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a little bit when oh, you lost to Kansas State, 231 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: had the game with Baylor, and then I actually took 232 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Baylor over time in the Big Twelve championship games. So 233 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: what is it? Is it Burrow or bust here Bucky. 234 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: That's how I feel, yeah to be I mean, when 235 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: you think about what he has been able to do, UM, like, 236 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable with the change in Joe Burrow from one 237 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: year to the next. UM. Last year like he was 238 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: just viewed as, I mean, let's be honest, like just 239 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: a guy. It's that like you're being very time to 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: think about him being a potential NFL quarterback. Last year 241 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: he was fifty seven pastors. He was a guy who 242 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: had sixteen touchdowns and five interceptions. This year seven eight touchdowns, 243 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: six interceptions in a year. And so he has clearly 244 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: been the most dominant college player on the theme this year. 245 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: The trick will be when we're doing the evaluation and 246 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: we're beginning to think about the NFL draft and we're 247 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: thinking about the ascension that he has made. We have 248 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to then try and figure out how much of it 249 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: do we put on him in his personal development, how 250 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: much do we put on Joe Brady and what Joe 251 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: Brady has done to revample this scheme, and how much 252 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: of all of this is sustainable at the next level. 253 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Can he replicate this kind of performance anywhere? Or is 254 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: he a guy that is going to be tied to 255 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: assistem that whoever takes him, they have to take the 256 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: same system that surround them with the same kind of 257 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: dominant player that L s U has on the edge. Yeah, 258 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. Um. And look, obviously with Cincinnati 259 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: in line for the number one overall pick and Joe Burrow, 260 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, an Ohio guy, it's it's certainly pointing that way. 261 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: And um, you know if that's something to think about, 262 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: right because you know they got a j Green there, 263 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: But for how long you know, is he are they 264 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: going to be able to figure something out and keep 265 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: him in the fold? They've got you know, Tyler Boyd 266 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: in there as well, and uh, Autumn Tate has has 267 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: shown that he can play. I mean there there's some 268 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: good receivers there. Thinking keep them all and think keep 269 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: them all healthy and keep them all going. So Um, 270 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: but that's that's the issue that you're going to have 271 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: going number one overall. You know, even if it isn't 272 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals, you know, they if they managed to win 273 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: a couple of here here, gonna end up on a 274 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: team that's not very good. And so then how you know, 275 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: how quickly can you you know, showcase the potential that 276 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: we're seeing right now? Um, is again the question that 277 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: we have with all these quarters? Yes, yeah, with all 278 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: of it. And then also like so throw this into 279 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the mix. So when we talk about the number one 280 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: overall pick, and we talked about the talent, the number 281 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: one overall pick is supposed to be a transcendent talent 282 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: when we just stack us his talent and let's let's 283 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: compare him to Chase Young and Chase young talent. Is 284 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow more talented than Chase Young? And you know, 285 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: we can talk about the bump that quarterbacks get because 286 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: of the value of the position, but when we're drafting 287 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: and we're talking about you want to acquire the best players, Um, 288 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: I just think this Joe Burbero evaluation is going to 289 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: be one that right now we can't see it. But 290 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: I think we will get into April there could be 291 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: some hard conversation that teams are gonna have to make 292 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: when they evaluate him and what he actually brings to 293 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: the table at the franchise quarterback. Yeah. Look, and I 294 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: think if Chase Young had been on the field every 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: single game for Ohio State, we might be having a 296 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: more serious conversation about him winning the trophy. It's just 297 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen this year, not with the way 298 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: things kind of ended up going for him this year, 299 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: even though in every game he played he was dominant. 300 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean that dominant player. I mean, I think that 301 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: is one of the things that, um, you definitely look 302 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: for and for a defensive player who win at one. 303 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard because we're still conditioned for the 304 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: war to eas to go to quarterbacks and then maybe 305 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: running back and then after that who knows. But uh, 306 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: it's an award. It's the best quarterback on the best 307 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: team in the country is typically the one that's kind 308 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: of won the award. Um, So it's gonna be hard 309 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: to overcome that. And tool, Uh, there's a different level 310 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: of criteria or in tool the voters see it in 311 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: a different way. Yeah, Chase, Chase Young is really fighting 312 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: an uphill climb to be a defender, the first defender 313 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: to Windy Award since Charles Wilson. And then you know 314 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: next year, Justin Fields will be the favorite to win 315 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: it next year coming into the season, just put the 316 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: way I wonder, I wondered about that because remember that 317 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence thing has been funny, right, It's been 318 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: a funny conversation that we'll have and eventually will preview 319 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: the champion semifinals or whatever. But here's what. Remember we 320 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: entered the year talking about Trevor Lawrence being a transcendent talent, 321 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence being a guided if he didn't play this year, 322 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: could go into the draft, he would be number one overall. 323 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: And like that talk has kind of gone away as 324 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Cleston has kind of run rough shot over the A 325 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: C C. But what we'll get in the national semi 326 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: friendal will get a chance to see it would be 327 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: the first guess appletize to the quarterback class, potentially Justine 328 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Fiodle's Trevor Lawrence squaring golf guys that were number one 329 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and number two and all of the recruiting rankings, guys 330 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: that will take the field obviously one another to kind 331 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: of step at the table for what will be a 332 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: great debate. Yeah, I know you're right, and and uh 333 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: look I am actually trying to curious here because you know, 334 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: there was a point this season right where everyone was 335 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: wondering what and what's wrong with Trevor Lawrence? Is he injured? 336 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: He had you know, Debo Sweeney gotten all fired up 337 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: about that, and um, but there was a point then 338 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: let's see after the Louisville game or they won twenty 339 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: nine twenty or where he was twenty two or three 340 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: through two picks in that game, they still won. Then 341 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: he went on wins over Boston College, Wafford, North Carolina State, 342 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: wait for South Carolina in Virginia and did not throw 343 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: a pick and was completing over seventy percent of his 344 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: passes and each one of those games ended up with 345 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: nine thirteen, sixteen, twenty touchdowns, zero interceptions over his last 346 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: seven games. That that's more what we thought we were 347 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: going to see. And uh, look that leads us into 348 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: our our mini ten takeaway podcast. If you will, we're 349 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: gonna do our three our three favorite takeaways from conference 350 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: championship weekends and Buckey. Since we're talking about Trevor, let's 351 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: let me dive right in there, because that was one 352 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: of my takeaways this weekend was in the game that nobody, uh, 353 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: you know what most people weren't watching was the a 354 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: c C Championship game, Clemson destroyed Virginia and they did 355 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: it with Trevor Lawrence and T Higgins. Those are two 356 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: of my takeaways right there. That connection was insane. I mean, 357 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: Trevor goes for four touchdowns, t catches three of them, 358 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: and uh, that looked like what we expected to see 359 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: from Clemson weekend and week out. We didn't get that 360 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: all year, but to see that on a big stage 361 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: in the a CEC Championship game, Look, I thought that 362 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: was I thought that was kind of neat. And now 363 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: you know Clemson's kind of lying in the grass, right, 364 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: are they the team that could jump out in surprise 365 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: some people here in the college football playoffs? I think 366 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: that's something we have to legitimately discuss there. I mean, 367 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: think about this, right, you're talking about a team that 368 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: has won twenty straight games, a team that I mean 369 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: they haven't lost in quarterback, that has been celebrated as 370 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: one of the best that we've seen. You have a 371 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: slewent wide receivers that can make plays, and yet man, 372 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: they're not even really talked about as a heavyweight favorite 373 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: in this playoff field, and they're the team that is 374 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: uh an opportunity to go back to back. And so 375 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I think, if you're Dad both swiney, this is everything 376 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: that every coach wants. Every coach wants a title contender 377 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: that has won the title, but it's viewed as an underdog. 378 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: So the motivation is already there because he can stand 379 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: in front of everybody and say, like, guys, look, we 380 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: started off as the preseason number one. We didn't lose 381 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: the game, but they view you at the third best 382 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: team in the country, right, So we then have an 383 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to show everybody that the defending champions are still 384 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: a championship slid. It doesn't get better than that, No, no, 385 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't. So look, the connection from Trevor Lawrence to 386 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Tee Higgins was was one of the things that one 387 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: of my takeaways from Championship weekend, the fact that Clemson, 388 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: you know, might just be might surprise some folks here 389 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: in the college football playoff was was one was another takeaway. 390 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you my last one here in a second, 391 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: but I want to get I want to get some 392 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: of yours here before I give you my final takeaway 393 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: from Championship weekend. So what what stuck out to you? 394 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow and Joe and Joe Brady are the 395 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: real Joe's the Joe's like that combination inspect Like if 396 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: I'm a team at the top and I'm thinking about 397 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: bringing Joe Burrow in, man, i might as well throw 398 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of money at Joe Brady and see if 399 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: I could get both of them, because together they are great. 400 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Point the way this this is looking like, the way 401 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: this offense works at l s U and the connection 402 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: that they have from play caller to quarterback, I don't 403 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: know if you can beat that. I mean, they are 404 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: slicing up. I mean good teams, teams with NFL talent, 405 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: with ease um. Yeah. Look, Joe Burry has been great 406 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: as the director, but I mean I think you could 407 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: you could just throw as many verbal boucats to Joe 408 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: Brady in terms of his ability to dial this up 409 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: to create this offense that has some NFL stuff from 410 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: the Saints Uh, some of this uh Joe moorehead RPO 411 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: stuff that you learned from like Penn State. And to 412 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: throw it all together, what you're seeing on offense from 413 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: L s U is really the future of football maybe 414 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: at the NFL level, a little of everything kind of 415 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: mixed together because you you spend so much time down 416 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, in that Louisiana it's like a big 417 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: old pot of gumball that that um man everyone is 418 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: one of is going to one a sample. But yeah, 419 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: that the Joe Burrow Joe Brady combination is something that 420 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: is fascinated to me. Yeah, that's a good point. And 421 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: you know it's not like Joe doesn't have the Brady 422 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have the NFL experience. You know, he came over 423 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: from the sts L s U, so you know he's 424 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: got a little bit of that background in it. That's 425 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: an interesting thing. I think we saw that right with 426 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: when the Colt Strap and Andrew Luck they brought Pep 427 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: Hamilton's over right from Stanford eventually came over. Yeah, over anything. 428 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: It was a couple of years after that he had right. 429 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: Look there, there are mixed results in terms of Indianapolis 430 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: fans will tell you that, But I do believe this 431 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: there's some comfort Um and taking the quarterback and having 432 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: a play called who already knows all of his wars, 433 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: you know the strengths, he knows his waitnesses, he knows 434 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: what he had to do to mask his flaws. But 435 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: it is something to consider Joe Brady Um having that opportunity. 436 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, like I know some people with 437 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: FASTI well, I mean all the way you get if 438 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: you have to make him a head coach, I mean, 439 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: but I do believe that you can elevate him to 440 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: the point where you give him a chance to do 441 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: that and then just kind of see where it goes. 442 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: All right, what other takeaways did you have from the 443 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: championship game weekend? Oh? Look, justin Herbert finally had his moment, 444 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: and and and look the numbers are not impressive. He 445 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: didn't have over to went of yards. It was just 446 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: kind of a solid performance. But this was a game 447 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: where Oregon was an underdog against Utah. Oregon wasn't really 448 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: expected to knock off Utube. I don't know how seriously 449 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: we thought that would be a specially with them losing 450 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: to Arizona State. UM prior to this big game. But 451 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert manage the game the right way, play like 452 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: a pro, made a couple of throws that kind of 453 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: made you raise your eyebrows. He can do it now. 454 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I will say this. I don't know if I believe 455 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: that he is a franchise favor, meaning that he can 456 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: turn around the franchise with his talent, But I do 457 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: believe he could be a solid the high end starter 458 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: for a team that has pieces in place. So if 459 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: he has drafted maybe at that mid that mid level. Okay, 460 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: so let's let's get this because this is an exercise 461 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: that people have to do. So your Tampa Bay and 462 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: you're sitting at fourteen or fifteen draft positions, and you 463 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: have to do the debate Jameis Winston Justin Herbert like 464 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: after debate, where Okay, we've seen what James can do, 465 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: and we've seen that roller coaster ride. Could we take 466 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and maybe not get the negative plays, but 467 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: maybe gets some of the same positive plays in that 468 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: vein with Mike Evans and Goodwin and O. J. Howard 469 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: and what they have around him. I think he is 470 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: a better player if he gets drafted mid too late. 471 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: More so than early, because I don't think he can 472 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: live up to top ten expectation. But I do believe 473 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: in the right situation he could go lower and play 474 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: better because he had better suffer around here. That's a 475 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: great point. You're not gonna find many better situations for 476 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback, at least on the perimeter. With Mike Evans 477 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: and Chris Godwin now off offensive line wise, that might 478 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: be a different story, uh in Tampa. But there's a 479 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to improve there as well. Uh. Look, that's man, 480 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: that's a tough call, right. Um. We talked about Jamis 481 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: a lot on the ten Takeaway podcast. I told DJ 482 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: this weekend on Monday rather that after this weekend, I 483 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: just I want to I just want Jamis to like 484 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: be my shadow. I just want him to hang around 485 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: with me because like anything that goes wrong, he'll be like, hey, man, 486 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. Just forget it. Forget it. 487 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Forget it. Well we'll throw we'll throw a touchdown on 488 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: the next series. Okay. Uh So like that, I just 489 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I want him hanging around with me. Um. So, 490 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I look, I don't know if I 491 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: could say that about justin Herbert just yet, because I 492 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: haven't seen enough of the of the big plays, right, Um, 493 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: you're right, we don't see as many of the negative 494 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: as many of the negatives. So maybe that is or 495 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: or even or even let's pass forward because but just 496 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: imagine Jeff and Herbert playing for the large right. So 497 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: the lh Art is another one. I'm gonna be outside 498 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Kennan Allen and Mike Williams. They have a tight end 499 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry Um depending on what you do at 500 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: running back off the neck with whatever they have enough 501 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: they gotta fix the officive line. But uh, let's think 502 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: about moving forward with him and Philip Rivers in the 503 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: debate that you would have. So I do believe he 504 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: is a guy that can be a starting quarterback, I 505 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: mean a solid to high end starter um in the league. 506 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: But he has to have the right stuff. I just 507 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: don't know, man, if you take them two, three, four, 508 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: if you're going to be satisfied immediately and what he 509 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: brings unless it's one of those teams that just kind 510 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: of they just kind of fell off about that. When 511 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: when I'm looking at the teams that are picking up there, 512 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any of those special situations 513 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: where a team just had a bad year and they're 514 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna bounce back next year, right O. That that'll be 515 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: a fun one, and I'm sure we can have that 516 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: debate as we could started on path to the draft 517 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: coming up this bring once free agency finishes up. So 518 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: that'll be a that'll be a fun one because the 519 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: free agency quarterback situation could be really intriguing as well, 520 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: with guys like Philip and Jameis Winston and Ryan Tannehill 521 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: and that whole crew and maybe even Eli Manning. Um. 522 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: So that's uh there, there's some interesting variables in the 523 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: quarterback discussion there. You know, you have one final takeaway 524 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: for us uh from the champ weekend. Oh Man Ohio 525 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: stated tough, Yeah, and and and a lot of times, 526 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Like we talked about toughness. Everyone thinks about the physical, 527 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: but really the mental toughness that was on display. You 528 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: talked about a team that is loaded with NFL talent. 529 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: We can talk about Jase Jones and Akuda and even 530 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: a young justin fields. They got h the space early 531 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: by the badges, and look they stumbled back to the corner. 532 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: They may have taken a standing eight count but the 533 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: way that they reeled off those points to come back 534 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: and win in the Big Ten title game, Man, it 535 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: speaks volumes about the grit, the RESILIOU see the person. 536 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: There's all those words that you want to throw up there, 537 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: But then the bounce back man says a lot. And 538 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: I think that experience it is gonna serve them will 539 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: in the semifinals because for them to knock off Clemson, 540 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: it is going to take a champion effort to knock 541 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: out the champion. And so I feel better about Ohio 542 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: State than I felt about them before because the way 543 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: that they were able to take Wisconsin's heymaker and bounce back, 544 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about Ryan Day and 545 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: its staff and his team. So I think that's a 546 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: good point. I think the early deficit from Ohio State 547 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: showcases something that could be more valuable to them rather 548 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: than showcasing vulnerability. I think it ends up, as you said, 549 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: being more valuable to them in their arsenal now in 550 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: their back pocket is they get set for the College 551 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Football Playoff and look, uh no, Bill obviously works closely 552 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: with us as a producer. Here, I moved the sticks 553 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: and uh you know, uh, big Wisconsin fan, big Wisconsin fan, 554 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: big Hackers fan. And so we had the group text 555 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: going during the Big Ten championship game and I love 556 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: you to beel It was one seven. He was feeling 557 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: it and his text goes, Wisconsin is winning this? Well 558 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: they didn't score another point, it's score another point? Oh man, Bill. 559 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I felt for you on that one. I was like, 560 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: oh boy, there's the kiss of death. There it is, 561 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: and Ohio State rattles off, what was it? Twenty seven? 562 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Unanswered at that point to go and we love you, 563 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: We wish the best for your for your Badgers next season, 564 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: my friend. Or in the uh where they gonna end 565 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: up in uh? Are they in the Rose Rose? Yeah? 566 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: There the badge of the take on Oregon. And I 567 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: think the last time we saw that matchup was a 568 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: classic with Russell Wilson. Yes, they came up a little short, 569 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: but it was a great game. The Athony Thompson, a 570 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: lot of fireworks or whatever. So I mean, you know, 571 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of local Pasadena. We made need to take 572 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: a little take a little ride, take it. We might 573 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: have to go do it after the draft to read 574 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: to get get a look scope not only at justin Herbert, 575 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: but it looks at Jonathan jo some of the other guys. Yeah, 576 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: scope it out before we we go watch the NFL 577 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: p A Collegiate Bowl later in January from Pasadena as well, 578 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: which you'll see right here in NFL Network, which is fun, 579 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: um as we get to see some of the best 580 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: players in college football take the field. All right. So 581 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: that and then my final takeaway, um after your three 582 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: there on championship weekend was Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin got 583 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: it done at Florida Atlantic. He wins now to conference 584 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: championships in three years at f A U and then 585 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: bolts for Ole Miss And look, I think this was 586 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: always going to be a stepping stone for him to 587 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: get back into a head coaching job at a Power 588 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: five school. I'm sure f A you understood that as well. 589 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: That was clearly you know, part of the deal. But 590 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: he made it work at f A U UM and 591 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: beat a good U A B team in the conference 592 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: championship game at Conference USA. UM. So there's a couple 593 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: of things wrapped up in that. I think it's a 594 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: really intriguing higher for Old Miss UM. Obviously, anytime anywhere 595 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin goes, it's gonna draw some attention. So like, 596 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I think it did what it was supposed to do. 597 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: For Line, Kiffin got him another another opportunity to Power 598 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: five school, but also for f a U. I mean this, 599 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: you can win at Florida Atlantic. I think that's that's 600 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: an attractive job. There's some good players there now too, 601 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: and he's recruited some good players there. I think that 602 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: that only strengthens um the East Division of Conference USA 603 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: as well, which we see a lot of here on 604 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: NFL network now. Um So, I I think both parties 605 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: win in that scenario. Uh, you know, Kiffen taking f 606 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: a U to uh, you know, the top of Conference USA, 607 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, Lane then go ahead and getting 608 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: getting his more desirable job at Old Miss in the SEC. 609 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of interesting. What do you think 610 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: of of Lane going to Old Miss? Do you think 611 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: he can he can make it work there? Stutely thinking Cannon, 612 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this because I maybe I'm sure 613 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: I am in the minority. I think Lane Kivin is 614 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: a really good coach. Now, I won't say that he 615 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: had handled all situations in the right way, but I 616 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: will mark some of that up to immaturity. Because he's 617 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: very young when he got these opportunities. Having met with 618 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: him and sat with him when he was with the 619 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, UM, I thought he had a bright mind. 620 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: I thought what he wanted to do. Uh as a 621 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: pro coach, I felt like he had command. Look he 622 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: bounced around when the Tennessee quickly Inherits a situation at 623 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: USC that I think anyone would have struggled with. And 624 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: I think st fans never could appreciate um what he 625 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: was trying to do when it came to the way 626 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: that he wanted to play on offense and the style 627 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: of play at Old Miss. I think it will work 628 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: for him because one, he knows the beasts in that 629 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: in that division. He understands Alabama like no other. He 630 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: understands how to attack Nick Saban, he knows how to 631 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: make him uncomfortable and all those things. He also will 632 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: understand how to deal with l s U And the 633 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: thing the only part of the job it is touching man. 634 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: It is such a head knocker in the SEC. But 635 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: he probably has the confidence of knowing. Hey man, Hugh 636 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: Freeze won games at Old Miss Ole Miss recently has 637 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: been relevant in the SEC. Look throw away those allegations 638 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: and all that we have seen Old Miss be one 639 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: of the premier teams in the SEC. So there's some 640 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: confidence knowing and if I do this the right way, 641 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: I certainly can get it done and he'll make it exciting. 642 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: So look, I am optimistic about what can be at 643 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: Old Miss with him in charge. Yeah, and he's got 644 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: an interesting quarterback situation you know there Um obviously with 645 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: coral Um kind of started the season and then Plumbly 646 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: who came in and was the Freshman of the Week 647 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: in the SEC a couple of different times. So um, 648 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: look that that's gonna be interesting. And we know that 649 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: you can recruit the Old Miss. I mean, you know, 650 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze is bringing in top recruiting classes in the 651 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: country and uh and now you know we've seen the 652 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: likes of DK metcalf A, J Brown and Um, you know, 653 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: there's definitely ways to get really good talent into Ole 654 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: Miss and matter can you put it all together and 655 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: be a consistent contender in the West Division. So that's 656 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch. I'm excited to see that. 657 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: So that's a look their championship weekend. Obviously, as a 658 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: result of championship weekend. We now know who's in the 659 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: college football Playoff and we'll start uh in the Peach 660 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Bawl in December with Oklahoma and L s U out 661 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. Clinton. Do you feel like, oh, you will 662 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: give L s U trouble Bucky or do you I 663 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: think they will give them some trouble Um Like, Oh, 664 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: US offense is gonna be problematic. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, 665 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: um Linco and Rowley can kind of make the game 666 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: challenge him just because the way he'll push stress on 667 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: their defense. But player for player, I think L s 668 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: U is more talented. I think the only thing that 669 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: still worries me, and maybe I don't know, maybe I'm 670 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 1: I've had my heartbroken a little bit, uh and picking 671 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: games for L s U for so long. Can can 672 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: they still be who they've been after a four week layoff? 673 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: How much will rush steep into their game doing this 674 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: this period that they're off, because they're rolling, they're playing 675 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: the best football right now. How do you kind of 676 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: set your schedule to keep that going? And also when 677 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: you're Oklahoma and you're the fourth seed in this and 678 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: everyone is gonna tell you have no shot, man, I 679 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: think the scariest thing is dealing with the Lincoln Riley 680 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: with nothing to lose, doesn't have a charing to win. 681 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: He can do the trick plays and come at you. 682 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a lot, So we'll see. I wouldn't 683 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: just completely discount Oklahoma, but I think they have a 684 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: tough They have a tougher road than Clemson has in 685 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: terms of pulling off an upset. Yeah, And I think 686 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: the two three game with Clemson and Ohio State is 687 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting. You know. I think we've seen that. 688 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's ways where you can compete 689 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: with Ohio State. We saw that with Wisconsin in the 690 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: first half. I think Clemson could certainly do that. And 691 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: I think we've seen we're seeing the best of Trevor 692 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence right now. So man, that that's gonna be the 693 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a fun I'm I might I'm probably 694 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: looking forward a little bit more to the Clemson Ohio 695 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: State game just because I think that could be end 696 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: up being a really really good one. I mean, I 697 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: think that's the table center in so many different ways. 698 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: I look, the winner ever goes to the championship game. 699 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: We talked about the Trevor Lawrence justin fields. Uh conversation 700 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: and debate that we'll see in one Uh. Clemson, this 701 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: could be the end of a dynasty in terms of 702 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: like they're beginning to lose coaches. Jeff Scott, their co 703 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: opensive coordinator, is taking the job in South Florida, so 704 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: he'll be there for the run. But this would be 705 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: the last version of the last time we see this 706 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: version of Clemson. UM. And so look, you know when 707 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: assistant started leaving death kind of when things begin to change, 708 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: and this would be the first major despection uh from 709 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the Tiger. So, yeah, this is an exciting game. It's 710 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: a fascinating game. I can't wait to can you to 711 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: break it down and watch it? Yeah, no question. And 712 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: and then after that, obviously we we would get into 713 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: the national championship game. And look, I selfishly, I want 714 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: to see L s U in Ohio State. You know, 715 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: they've been the top two teams really all season long. 716 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: I want to see them. But I'm not you know, 717 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm not just sending them into the title game just yet. 718 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have really two really good semifinals. Uh. 719 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: And then obviously we'll get into the national championship game 720 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: once it is set. But uh, it's gonna be a 721 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: fun college football playoff. I think, uh, I think to me, 722 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: I do feel like these were the four best teams. Um, look, 723 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: I think I'd probably love to see eight in a 724 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: college football playoff. But that's a whole another argument. I 725 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: think we've got four really good ones here. It's gonna 726 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: make for some fun starting December with the Peach Bowl 727 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: Cloman L s U and then Clemson Ohio State in 728 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: the Fiesta on as well, all getting set for UH, 729 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Indiana and UNC to meet in the College Football Playoff 730 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: in twenty one. Sound good? All right? Well, that that 731 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: is gonna do it for us here on this edition 732 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: of The of the Sticks Podcast presented by A. R. P. Bucky. 733 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: When you heading back over here, man, well, man, I 734 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: come back the six key, and I think we jump in. 735 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: We got the single Bowl review, yes, yeah, yeah, so 736 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: we get a chance to do all of that, and 737 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: then you mentioned the collegiate bowl game that we get 738 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: a chance to NFLP a collegiate bowl and we get 739 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: a chance to be a part of ye and to 740 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: do so. Yeah, there's a lot of exciting stuff. Uh. Look, 741 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: when the colendar flips Man. That's when we get a 742 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: chance to really do our things. So I'm excited about 743 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: it all, no, no question. Gonna be fun. Looking forward 744 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: to getting you back over here. But again. You can 745 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: download Move the Six podcast at Apple Podcasts, are on 746 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast app. Check out all the videos at 747 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: NFL dot com Slash MTS video. Order new channel on 748 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: YouTube at YouTube dot com Slash NFL podcast. Remember when 749 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: you're downloading, give us a rating and leave us a comment. 750 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: Leave us a question in the comments, and we just 751 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: might answer them for you. On Thursday's edition of the 752 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: Movie the Sticks podcast, Thanks so much for listening. We'll 753 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: see you next time. DJ should be back in the 754 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: saddle for Bucky Imrhett taking easy