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Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go Giants.

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Speaker 3: Dont come get my Giants, Moblo, give me some job.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to another episode of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 4: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 4: York Giants. I'm John Schmelk. Well, we're to the end

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Speaker 4: of our Giants Huddle journey here leading up to the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four NFL Draft. This will be our last

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Speaker 4: Giant Huddle episode before the Draft on Thursday night. We've

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Speaker 4: had a lot of episodes over the course of the

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Speaker 4: guest r At Lewis will be joining us shortly was

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Speaker 4: covering it down there. And we've gone from the end

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Speaker 4: So if you have some time between now and the

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Speaker 4: draft after you finished. This episode as not a super

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Speaker 4: but we had some fun time of talking about what

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Speaker 4: then maybe what the Giants could do little bit later too.

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Speaker 2: But go back and just scroll through our episodes.

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Speaker 4: chance to listen to all of them, guys, we've had

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Speaker 4: some really good episodes. You go back by one with

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Speaker 4: Stephen Ruis on evaluating quarterbacks. They were classing this week

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Speaker 4: on the quarterbacks was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Just go back.

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Speaker 4: Dan Brugler Brian brought us always two of my favorites

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Speaker 4: Go back to the Combine shows even where we have

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Speaker 2: Nate Tye was on my favorites.

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Speaker 4: Nate goes really deep into offensive line, wide receiver and quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He was a great episode just so many really good

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Speaker 4: interviews on the gihnt Hittle Podcast over the last three months.

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Speaker 4: I've learned a lot about scouting and evaluation, which is

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Speaker 4: what a lot of these conversations are as much as

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Speaker 4: And I think it's a good way to learn for

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Speaker 4: past episodes of the Giants Total Podcast presented by Citizen.

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Speaker 4: It's just fantastic. I'm very proud of the work that

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Speaker 4: So if you missed any of those episodes over the

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Speaker 4: Huddle and make sure you also go check out Draft Season,

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Speaker 4: which is our draft podcast, Tony Pauline and I Talk Draft.

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Speaker 4: We have two episodes this week. Tony Pauline's final mock

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Speaker 4: Tony's latest buzz and intel on what's gonna happen in

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Speaker 4: As well as for our draft coverage, we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: the Giants make their picks in rounds one, round two.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to get that all the way to the.

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Speaker 4: And we'll player interviews too with the guys the Giants

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Speaker 2: So that's our draft coverage again.

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Speaker 4: I thank all of you guys for listening and watching

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Speaker 4: out there. All right, it's time to get to or interview,

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Speaker 4: and now we welcome in host of the NFL networks

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Speaker 4: many draft programs, including Pat to the Draft.

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Speaker 2: You see them on Total Access.

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Speaker 4: You can see him on NFL Networks coverage of the

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Speaker 2: That is the one and only read Lewis rhtt. What's

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Speaker 2: going on, man, John?

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Speaker 3: Great to be back here chatting with my giants fam.

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Speaker 3: You know, love chopping it up with you guys all

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Speaker 3: the time, and this is my favorite time of year.

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Speaker 1: Man. I love the Draft.

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Speaker 3: I could talk about it all year longs So I

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Speaker 4: At the same point, we've talked about the same stuff

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Speaker 2: So while I correct there's a good argument for trading.

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Speaker 1: Where else are you going to get one? Right at

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Speaker 3: the franchise quarterbacks aren't growing on trees. And look, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, let's go over what's.

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Speaker 3: Coming up here? And I mean we're looking at what

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Speaker 2: Now this is when the fun starts.

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Speaker 4: Most likely scenario Cardinals move out, Chargers move out, Neither

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Speaker 4: My personal evaluation, I think right now on my board,

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Speaker 2: Then what the calculation is? Could you then move back?

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Speaker 3: It's it's not what you would expect from a player

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying, Like, could four or five

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean with he needs to if you go

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Speaker 1: Or just take the tackle at six.

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Speaker 3: the top twelve.

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Speaker 4: I could see the trade down from there, by the way, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think lookout if brock Bauers is there at twelve.

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Speaker 3: I think the Broncos moving off of twelve without a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a surprise or not, but

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Speaker 3: but getting their quarterback at eleven. Maybe the guy that

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Speaker 3: I think would be a probably a surprise to many,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if it's that far fetched based

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Speaker 2: Whooah, I do like that one.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a pet player you like in this

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Speaker 4: draft just because you liked watching him?

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Speaker 1: Lad McConkie. Lad McConkie.

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Speaker 3: It's just if he's there in the forty seven, it's

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Speaker 3: an absolute home run for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he gets past thirty five, thirty six.

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Speaker 3: If I'm the Carolina Panthers that I'm picking there at

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Speaker 3: the top of the second, I'm one hundred percent loading

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Speaker 3: that one up.

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Speaker 1: If he's still there, I think he could end up

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Speaker 1: going in the first.

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Speaker 2: I think the AFC better pray dosn't wind up in Canada.

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Speaker 2: That's Rightatrick mahomes ight be a big, big problem.

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Speaker 4: All right. I mentioned with the NFL network's doing for

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Speaker 4: the draft, right, what are you going to be doing

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Speaker 4: for the draft? Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 3: I'll be on the NFL channel, which is on our

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Speaker 3: free ad supported television app. If you're on your Samsung

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Speaker 3: you know, you search the NFL channel. We are there

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Speaker 3: for free and an alternate broadcast of the draft. And

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Speaker 3: we're also on the NFL's YouTube channel of during the

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Speaker 3: draft as well Thursday and Friday, and then I'm on

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Speaker 3: the main desk, well not the main desk, the second

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Speaker 3: desk on NFL network on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We'll be with you on the alternate on Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and lanzer Line.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow. All right, So if you want to dig

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Speaker 2: dB hitter guys to go.

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Speaker 1: To yep, yep, that's the one, buddy. Well, we'll be there.

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Speaker 3: So YouTube dot com slash NFL, I believe the or

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Speaker 3: NFL channel, but you can you can definitely find it

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Speaker 3: in for free.

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Speaker 4: So awesome, right, this is always fun catching up with

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Speaker 4: your brother. I hope you had a good fun cover

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun cover in the draft. We're finally here.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate the time and good luck this week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks John, always a pleasure. That's right.

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Speaker 4: Lewis from the NFL Network does a great job. Really

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Speaker 4: just a super dude, really good host. Also does a

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Speaker 4: good job breaking down prospects. If we have more time

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Speaker 4: with him. I went through more of the guys that

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Speaker 4: he liked, but he kind of got to some of

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Speaker 4: the guys early that he's a big fan of. And

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Speaker 4: I know we you know former college player by the way, folks,

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Speaker 4: if you didn't know that, I went to Indiana as

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Speaker 4: Indiana play by play in the radio. So really good dude.

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Speaker 4: Love talking to right every year. I'm happy with a

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Speaker 4: chance to do it before the Draft. I thought we

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Speaker 4: were going to run out of time, and I'm happy

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Speaker 4: we were able to squeeze that in. It was a

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Speaker 4: last second thing. We kind of got this set up

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Speaker 4: this morning for a record Wednesday afternoon, so Hrett was

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Speaker 4: kind enough to do it quickly. And my buddy Andrew

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Speaker 4: Howard over a NFL network that helps set all this

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Speaker 4: stuff up. He's helped us out with you know, Buckyks,

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jeremiah at the Combine, Charles Davis, all the guys

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Speaker 4: that we've had from NFL Network that have really uh

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Speaker 4: brought good information to the show. So thank you him.

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Speaker 4: Thank you to Rev for joining us on the Giants

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Speaker 4: Little Podcast. Don't forget to go subscribe on your favorite

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Speaker 4: offerings at giants dot com, slash podcast, or on the

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Speaker 4: Giants Mobile. I've just clicked on that podcast link. Thanks

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Speaker 4: for being with us, everybody, and for our entire season

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Speaker 4: of draft coverage right here on the Giants Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the draft, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Here we go