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Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter. I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal, success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back friends. It is

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Speaker 1: that time of the month. We are heading to the

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Speaker 1: mail bag. I actually wish I had a real mail bag.

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Speaker 1: That would be awesome, and then I can get link

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Speaker 1: from my I've got this awesome made out of an

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Speaker 1: elk shin bone letter opener. This friend of my grandpa's

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Speaker 1: made it. He was a native guy, and he crafted

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Speaker 1: the handle out of a deer antler and then he

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Speaker 1: honed like the shin bone down. It looks really awesome.

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Speaker 1: I gotta find that thing. Maybe I'm just gonna from

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Speaker 1: now onto all my podcast mail like snail mail. That

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Speaker 1: would be way more in my style instead of trying

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Speaker 1: to dig through and screenshot all these messages on here.

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Speaker 1: But man, this podcast is almost working itself out of

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Speaker 1: a job because I always ask for questions, questions, questions,

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Speaker 1: and what I've been getting is success story, success story,

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Speaker 1: success story, which is the exact purpose of me sitting

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Speaker 1: down weekly and recording these podcasts. Anyways, so that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty stoked on that. I mean, I still

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Speaker 1: got quite a few questions here, but we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through some questions. I think first let's uh, let's shake

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Speaker 1: it up and just share. Let's go to our I

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Speaker 1: Guess trophy board of just some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: I've received from guys that have been successful. First one

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Speaker 1: comes from Chris Way. He says, Remy, listen to your

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Speaker 1: podcast and watched you on solo all the time. I'm

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Speaker 1: an adult on set hunter and started hunting at thirty eight,

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Speaker 1: and today I got my first public land dear in

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Speaker 1: California and over the counter low success Southern California zone,

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Speaker 1: and one of your tips was huge help look for

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Speaker 1: where other hunters aren't going. We got a small three

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Speaker 1: by four this morning, and just want to say thank

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Speaker 1: to help new hunters learned. Congrats Chris. I know that

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Speaker 1: Southern California hunting can be some of the toughest hunting.

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Speaker 1: A lot of our listeners are in there that same boat,

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Speaker 1: new guys that live in that area. I get a

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Speaker 1: I do actually hunt California quite often, and I'll make

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Speaker 1: a so Cal trip here soon just to make some

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Speaker 1: videos or something to be kind of fun. I like

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Speaker 1: to try to go to places where a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's a difficult hunt, it's low success. So to pull

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Speaker 1: one out of there three by four, congrats man, that

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a great accomplishment, and I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: we could help you in any way. Next little story

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Speaker 1: comes from Jason Vincent says Remmy, can't thank you enough

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Speaker 1: for your podcast. I listen to every episode at least

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Speaker 1: twice this summer. I listened to you every day while

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Speaker 1: I ran and trained for my wyoming mule Dear. Because

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Speaker 1: of your tips and tricks, I was able to harvest

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Speaker 1: a mature dough antelope and a nice eight point white

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Speaker 1: for your podcast. Please keep up the awesomeness, good luck

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Speaker 1: on the rest of your hunts. Thanks man, and congrats.

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Speaker 1: That's it's always awesome when people are stepping out of

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Speaker 1: It's just great to see this kind of stuff come

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Speaker 1: to respond to a cow call and proceeded to bugle

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Speaker 1: He says, Hey, Remy, I have a problem with the

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Speaker 1: for those of you maybe not familiar with it. So

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Speaker 1: like back tension release, there's different ways to shoot with

428
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: back tension. So back tension is essentially you're you're pulling through,

429
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: but you're subconsciously letting the bow essentially set itself off. Now,

430
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 1: some back tensions are used based on a pull through

431
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: where the amount of weight pulling then sends the air off.

432
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: It has to be pulled straight back, so you know

433
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: you're getting the same form everything. You focus the pin

434
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: on the target, the bow should go off by itself.

435
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: The best shot is going to be a bow that

436
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: goes off without you knowing. Now, why would you hunt

437
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: with that? Why would you need to? Uh? Most most

438
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: back tension type shooting is due to some form of

439
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: target panics. So your finger itself super sensitive. I mean,

440
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: it's got more nerve endings than really most anywhere. So

441
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: what happens is you can develop bad shooting form, bad

442
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: habits because you're anticipating the shot. What happens when you

443
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: do that, you jerk or move fast, and then you

444
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: send the arrow where it's not supposed to go. That

445
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 1: that can happen to anyone that that has happened to me.

446
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: It's it's something that the more you shoot almost the

447
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: more likely that is going to be to happen. There

448
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: are options though, like you can shoot a wrist release

449
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: using a back tension method where you aren't necessarily hitting

450
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: the trigger punching your trigger, but you're just pulling through

451
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: and letting it go off self. Or there's like thumbstyle

452
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: back tension releases. I have pretty much every kind of

453
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: release ever made. This is just me personally, so I

454
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: kind of have all these releases. I know a lot

455
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: of people that start almost everybody starts out hunting with

456
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: a wrist strap release, and I still continue to hunt

457
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Speaker 1: with a wrist trap release. I think it's the best

458
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: release for me for hunting, not for everybody. Um, But

459
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the reason I always hunt

460
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: with that is because, yeah, it's it's more full proof.

461
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: I want to be in control, but I'm able to

462
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: make good shots with it when I'm in a hunting scenario.

463
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: I shoot really well with it. I shoot better with

464
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: it than I do in any of the other releases,

465
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Speaker 1: and that's just my style. You know. If you're having

466
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Speaker 1: trouble with a risk release, then I think you should

467
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: probably commit to a back tension style release. Um, but

468
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: I would go with more of the thumb release route.

469
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: You know, use like a pure back tension for practice

470
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: and then a thumb style back tension release for hunting purposes.

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Speaker 1: If you needed to make it go off, you can

472
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Speaker 1: make it go off. Not that you should practice that,

473
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: but I think that a little bit more practice with

474
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Speaker 1: it will kind of help or just stick with the

475
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Speaker 1: wrist release is if you're shooting it, fine, I don't

476
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Speaker 1: see why I would switch from the trigger if you

477
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Speaker 1: if you're as long as you're shooting it. Well, I

478
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Speaker 1: hope that makes sense because there is there is a

479
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Speaker 1: lot of options. I did see one. Anytime like a

480
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Speaker 1: new release comes out or whatever, I'm kind of like

481
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Speaker 1: that guy's like, I just buy it and it doesn't

482
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Speaker 1: mean that I'm going to hunt with it. The release

483
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: that I hunt with and shoot I've had for probably

484
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. I haven't sweet like it's just it's part

485
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: of my It's like literally part of my wrist is

486
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Speaker 1: falling apart. I love the thing. It's got like a

487
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: mule tape para corn kind of thing where I can

488
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Speaker 1: tuck it back underneath it so it's always either on

489
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: my wrist or on my bow. I never have to

490
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: think about where it is. Um, there's so many benefits

491
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Speaker 1: to it, and I just like that one. But I

492
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: do like to try everything, just like I said earlier,

493
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Speaker 1: try as much stuff as I can, just so I

494
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Speaker 1: know and understand what's out there. Um, And I did

495
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Speaker 1: see a new one I'm gonna try. It's uh so you.

496
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Speaker 1: I can't even remember who makes it, and I don't

497
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Speaker 1: want to talk about it until I've tried it. But

498
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Speaker 1: there's one where it's kind of like more of like

499
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Speaker 1: a pull through wrist release thing that I just saw

500
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Speaker 1: come out. So I'm gonna try that one and I'll

501
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: report back and see if I think that that might

502
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Speaker 1: be a better option for guys that are kind of

503
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: in this don't like the whole back tension style shooting

504
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: for hunting, but also maybe have some aversions to shooting

505
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Speaker 1: a trigger release. This question comes from Kyle. He says, Grammy,

506
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: thanks for all the content and podcast. What's the best

507
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: way to hunt mule deer and over the counter elk

508
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: in Colorado at the same time? Any specific tactics? Yes,

509
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: I actually wrote an article about this in Western Hunter

510
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 1: Magazine years ago. But when I am most my guiding

511
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: career has been in general areas like that, where you've

512
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: got an elkin a deer tag and you're trying to

513
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: fill both. Here is my suggestion I say, I've always

514
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: said this. I say put first things first. If you

515
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: are trying to go for everything at once, you're going

516
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: to be so distracted that you probably will go but

517
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: home with nothing. So what you need to do is

518
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: you need you need to arrive with the anticipation of

519
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: what is it you want to hunt. I know last

520
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Speaker 1: year I was like, I had a deer tag, I

521
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Speaker 1: had an elk tag. I really wanted to get a

522
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: deer with my bow, but I was also having fun

523
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Speaker 1: chasing elkin. I was just ping ponging around between these

524
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Speaker 1: two things. You're better to hunt the best spot for

525
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: one thing than a spot that's marginal for both. So

526
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Speaker 1: what I do is I go, Okay, if I'm here,

527
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: you try to say, all right, be honest with yourself,

528
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Speaker 1: what would you rather go home with? Now you kind

529
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: of here's where your mind places things, and you're like, oh, well,

530
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Speaker 1: it might be easier to get a deer. I want

531
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Speaker 1: to go home with meat, but I really want to elk.

532
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: So pick one and go to the best spot for

533
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: that hunt that focus on that. If you happen to

534
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: see something else that's an incidental bonus, sure as heck

535
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: take it. You know, cool, we got something. But you're

536
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: better off picking the best areas for one thing and

537
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: focusing on that, because then you can fill that tag

538
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: and use your time more wisely to then go chase

539
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: something else. Um, I think you kind of spin yourself

540
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: in circles trying to find a way to hunt both

541
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: at the same time. You're better off just saying this

542
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: is what I'm going to hunt. Focus on looking for

543
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: that in that type of habitat odds are you might

544
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: run into the other animal as well. That's great, that's

545
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: an incidental bonus. But focus on one thing at a

546
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: time and you'll be a lot more successful at filling

547
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: both tags than you will the single tag by trying

548
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: to focus at two things at once. Next question comes

549
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: from Tyler. He says, Hey, remy quick question for a

550
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: rifle hunter. I recently had my best and worst day

551
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: of l kinding, missing not one but two bull elk

552
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: on the same day. Both should have been slam dunk.

553
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: What tips or resources have you to offer to improve

554
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: composure or shot control in a free hand shooting situation.

555
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Great podcast, by the way. Also as a side note,

556
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: Tyler did end up getting an ELK, so congratulations on

557
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: the bull. Okay, that's a great question because I've seen

558
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: it happen many times. There's a lot of times where

559
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: shots are rushed. Things need to go fast, and when

560
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: you're worked up, you kind of lose that composure, lose

561
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: that that slow and steady getting things done right. Then

562
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: you start to make a bad shot. Here's what I suggest,

563
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: and it just comes from repetition out of the field.

564
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: I've talked about it before in a previous podcast about

565
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: kind of getting steady rifle control, really understanding how to shoot,

566
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: how to get steady and practice. When a bowl elks

567
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: in front of you, you don't want that to be

568
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: the time to figure out how am I going to

569
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: make a good steady shot. You just want that to

570
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: be so automatic that you can throw the gun up

571
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: and you don't even have to think about it. You

572
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: focus on the shot and you execute a perfect shot.

573
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: And I really think that that comes from repetition, repetition, repetition.

574
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I think one of the best

575
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: ways to calm yourself and to build that repetition is

576
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: through essentially just what I call like steadying and dry

577
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 1: fire practice. So you're going to make sure that your

578
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: gun is on completely unloaded. Nobody should have any AMMO

579
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: near anything at any time during this, and while doing this,

580
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: the gun should be pointed in a safe direction. All

581
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: the basic safety stuff adhered to. There is nothing that

582
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: will harm your rifle while dry firing. I still do

583
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: it to this day. It is, you know, dry fire

584
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: practice with a gun where you can, essentially wherever you are,

585
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: take thousands of shots for free, and I do it.

586
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: And I practice in every shooting position possible, from offhand

587
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: to against a tree, to sitting to kneeling, to figuring

588
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: out how to quickly put the gun up, get my

589
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: elbows on something steady that rifle and squeeze nice easy

590
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: squeezy trigger control. Click, lift the bolt, close the bolt again, again,

591
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: again again, So when it's crunch time, it is so automatic. Yes,

592
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be exciting, but that pulling the trigger

593
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: on a specific spot is just already part of what

594
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: you do, what your muscle memory has done. Another thing

595
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: I do a lot when I am out practicing, I'm

596
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: practicing range positions, and you know, like I don't know

597
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: what kind of shots these, you know, says both should

598
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: have been slam dunk. Freehand shooting. I don't know freehand

599
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: shooting means just like without a rest or a bench,

600
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: or if it mean like off hand shooting. I regularly

601
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: practice shooting offhand and people might be like, oh, you

602
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: should never shoot off hand, you can always get arrest. Yes,

603
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: I want to be the guy that I can shoot.

604
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Um you know, I mean I I put out water

605
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: bottles and I you should be able to shoot a

606
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: water bottle at two hundred yards off hand every time.

607
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: And you think like, oh, that's crazy whatever. No, it's

608
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: because it's something that you practice. I I will practice

609
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: those kind of same shots. Dry firing picking is something

610
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: in the distance. I'll do so many dry fire shots,

611
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: saying okay, was that on it? Was it not? What

612
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: that does is it allows you to understand your trigger, control,

613
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: the movement of the rifle, and when I go to

614
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: take a shot, when I'm sitting on my pack, when

615
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm using shooting sticks, when I'm doing whatever, I have

616
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: that same trigger control, that same muscle memory to make

617
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: a good shot every time, no matter the scenario. So

618
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: it just comes down to a lot of time behind

619
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Speaker 1: the gun. I think so many people take for granted

620
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the fact that oh, a rifle could be you just

621
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: put the crossairs on it, shoot, they shoot it once

622
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the day before they're hunting, and then hunt and then

623
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: they put it away. I'm not saying that you did this,

624
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that practicing those scenarios over and over,

625
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: I do it with my bow like you. Archery guys

626
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: get a shoot in their backyard all the time. Going

627
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: to range as expensive. So that dry fire practice, that

628
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: getting steady practice is just making that muscle memory. So

629
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: when the animal, when that opportunity presents itself, you're fast,

630
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: You're smooth. Your brain isn't thinking and freaking, it's just doing,

631
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be a lot more successful. Okay, Darryl

632
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: has a question. He says, what tips do you have

633
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: for spot and stock hunting white tails and meal they

634
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: are in extremely cold climates. That is a great question

635
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: because I just looked at the forecasts and this weekend

636
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be negative seventeen degrees in October,

637
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: so some cold hunting is going to be happening for

638
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: some people. Here's a couple of really good tips that

639
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I've learned over the years. You need to be warm,

640
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: you need to be comfortable. I now pack on those

641
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: cold days, like puffer pants and a puffer jacket that

642
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: like really warm. It's a little lecture weight, but I'm

643
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: throwing it over because it's gonna keep me warm. Handwarmers

644
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: are a must because you're holding cold optics all day.

645
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: You need to be able to glass comfortably. I'll put

646
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: that face mask on and just being that like bundled

647
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: up when I'm stopped. Then when I'm moving, I shed

648
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: those layers so I don't overheat, and when I'm stopped,

649
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I bundle back up. I think handwarmers, boot warmers, you know,

650
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: like the kind of use their and like hot hands

651
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: do that. Those are just worth their weight in gold.

652
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean they can make or break a hunt because

653
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: you want to be comfortable, but you also need to

654
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: be able to glass and crawl slow sometimes and just

655
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: like be able to withstand those elements without getting frostbite

656
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: and freezing or being too uncomfortable. Another thing that I've

657
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: used for years is just like a glassing pad. I

658
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: can't even remember. Some old timer just showed me this

659
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: trick back when I was like eighteen years always like no,

660
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: you know you got this like little therm arrest pad,

661
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: air pad, blewed up sit on it. I use one

662
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: of two kinds. I've got like a something like that.

663
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know where I got it, just like

664
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: blow up a little pad to sit and glass on,

665
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: and then I keep my pack on as a backrest,

666
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: so I'm up off the snow, up off the ground,

667
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: like insulated and warm, so i can sit there and

668
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: glass and I'm not already chilled or whatever. Outdoorsman makes

669
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: a really great like glassing pad. It's just like super durable.

670
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: That's probably the best for durability rocks and everything. They

671
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: kind of made them for Arizona hunters where you're sitting

672
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: on rock and all that kind of stuff, you can

673
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: sit and glass for a while comfortably. Man, it is

674
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: awesome to have in cold weather. So that's just like

675
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: a kind of like a secret piece of kit that

676
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: I probably haven't I don't even know if I've mentioned that,

677
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: but that's something that's always in my pack, especially when

678
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: it's cold. Uh, just to just to glass more comfortably

679
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: and essentially be in those moments of you can't stalk

680
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: if you can't spot, so you really have to make

681
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: that spot comfortable because I know when it's cold, it's

682
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: easy to walk around and try to stay warm that way.

683
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, I do a lot of that moving sitting glassing,

684
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: but when I'm sitting glassing, I want to make the

685
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: most out of it and make sure that I spot something.

686
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: And then when it comes down to the stock, you know,

687
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: like I said, you know you big gloves are hard

688
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: to wear when it comes time to like stock or whatever.

689
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: So I got a liner glove and I'll throw that

690
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: handwarmer in there as well inside that liner glove. So

691
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: if I need more dexterity for things like ranging, shooting

692
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, my hands don't freeze, and

693
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm staying warm because you don't want to be chilled shaking.

694
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I know with a bow when i'm cold, man,

695
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: my groups go to crap. Same with a rifle. Like,

696
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: if you're cold, you're shaking, you aren't gonna You're already

697
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: adding in a little bit of things that are going

698
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: to mess you up. So just kind of staying comfortable

699
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: and prepping for that. Okay, this question comes from josh Um.

700
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: Lots of gear stuff this week, and which is awesome.

701
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: I mean I could talk gear for days. I've tried

702
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and I don't mind sharing my

703
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: opinion on it. It says. He says, Hey, remy love

704
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: the podcast in the show, appreciate all that you do.

705
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I have a question about bo sites I'm in the

706
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: market for a new site for next year. Yep, way ahead.

707
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: I currently have a five pin, but was looking at

708
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: a single pin. Just curious your thoughts on the single

709
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: pin options. Appreciate your time. I never thought in a

710
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: million years I would be a single pin guy. I mean,

711
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: I remember when I used to shoot the seven was

712
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: the seven deadly pins. I was like, seven pin guy.

713
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: I loved. I loved more pins than Merrier. And I

714
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: also think that that's still a great option because there

715
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: are pros and cons to both, and I personally found

716
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: res Like I think I switched to a single pin

717
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe three years ago, maybe longer, um,

718
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: and I've it was just like, wow, this is awesome

719
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: because I had a better site picture and I was

720
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: just more accurate with it, or became more accurate with it.

721
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed being able to just fine tune it.

722
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: The plus side to a single pin is the fact

723
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: that there's less going on. It's easier to focus. Um,

724
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: you can kind of just pick that spot and make

725
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: that shot. You don't necessarily have to pin gap shoot

726
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: or whatever. The downside is you don't have those those

727
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: other pins to show you, hey, something is in the

728
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: way above it. So like you draw back of the

729
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: animals at forty in your twenty yards pins settled on

730
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: a branch at twenty yards, you're gonna smack that branch.

731
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: So I like the multi pins for that my setup

732
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: right now, I've got like a spot hog fast steady,

733
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: I've got the Xcel, but I think just the regular

734
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: fast that he is just as good as you know,

735
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: whether it's got a rail or not. Mine I have

736
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: two pins and they've got a pointer on them, so

737
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: it's a single pin with two markers. Um. I like that.

738
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: The reason I like that is because I can set

739
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: my pin when I'm walking around. I set my top

740
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: like my single pin at like thirty five yards. I

741
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: think that puts my other one at forty five. And

742
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: I know how to shoot low and high, so essentially,

743
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: without moving my pin, I can make a lethal shot

744
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: out to sixty without adjusting anything if I had to,

745
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: but I generally always adjust if I can. One thing

746
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: I did like about the single pin is I think

747
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: one thing that I've noticed, you know, I don't know.

748
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: I shoot. I shoot my trad bows every day. I

749
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: probably shoot my trade bows more than I shoot my

750
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: compound bow to be honest, because you know, it's like,

751
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: once you know how to shoot, you can kind of

752
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: always shoot. One thing that I kind of think about

753
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily get talked. I don't feel like it

754
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: kind of gets lost in today's like so much gizmo's

755
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: gadgets everything, Like I think even people with a single

756
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: pin kind of forget this. Like you should know how

757
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: to shoot your bow and just feel like understand that

758
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: trajectory where you know it enough that it becomes subconscious.

759
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: So when that single pin is like on something, maybe

760
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: it's not correctly right, like maybe you draw back and

761
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: the animal moves ten steps. You should understand the flight

762
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: path of that arrow before you get out in the

763
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: field and have to take a shot, so you don't

764
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: necessarily always have to adjust it, but you can make

765
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: those adjustments on the fly just knowing your trajectory and

766
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: how it's set up. And I think that that's one

767
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: thing that probably doesn't get practiced enough. So that's one

768
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: thing with a single pin where you kind of start

769
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: to build up that trajectory almost a little bit better

770
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: than with those multi pens and kind of shoot almost

771
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: like it sounds weird, but to shoot a little more

772
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: instinctively with your compound bow. So I think that that's

773
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: that's a good selling point on it as well. But

774
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: there's I mean, there's so many good sites out there.

775
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: I haven't tried them all. I just kind of like

776
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: got one that I like, and I don't really like

777
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: changing stuff on my bow, so um, I'm sure like

778
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: maybe there's I should probably start trying a couple other

779
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: sites and things out there. So that's the only single

780
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: pin that I really have any experience with. So that's

781
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: the one that I'm talking about. But honestly, it's worth

782
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: it try. There are some downsides though, like there's a

783
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: lot to think about. You might miss some stuff, setting

784
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: the pin wrong, you know, but just kind of one

785
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: of those things like you gotta practice with they get

786
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: used to it. He was a good question. This one

787
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: comes from Chris Cameron. He says he really loved the

788
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: podcast Slash Show Slash Instagram stuff. I've listened to every podcast.

789
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: The date came out from the first. That's what I'm

790
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: talking about. Thanks man. I appreciate that it always let

791
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: me know it's Thursday, and you know, Thursday is not

792
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: a bad day. And so anyways, I added the Thursdays

793
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: on my bad day. That's my own quip um. Anyways,

794
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: my question for the podcast is how to pack out

795
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: milk cape. I got my first bowl this season, and

796
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: the hardest trip out was with the cape. Partly my

797
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: pack was not up to the task. Partly couldn't figure

798
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: out how to bundle up the cape. Is it pretty

799
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: fragile with the fur? Thanks? Keep doing what you're doing,

800
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: and he just can't wait for the book. Yeah. So, okay,

801
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go through some things that I see

802
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: notice and then I'll tell you how the proper way

803
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: to do things. One thing I have noticed a lot

804
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: of people do one thing you should figure out. And

805
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is you or not. Um,

806
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm just talking in generalizations because I see it a lot.

807
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: You know, so many people like get a elk somewhere

808
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: like back in the back country and they've got they

809
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: want the cape. They're gonna mount it. So they've got

810
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: it cape, but the it's not caped out off the face.

811
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: So they've got like the old jaw skull elk everything

812
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: and they're trying to pack it out. It's very awkward.

813
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't really work that well, you can make it work.

814
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: And here's how you make that scenario work. If you

815
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: maybe you aren't going too far or you don't know

816
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: how to keep something out. The way you would wrap

817
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: it up is, let's say we're just putting the head

818
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: away from us. You're gonna fold the hide in, so

819
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: you're because you're cutting down the back, you're gonna doors

820
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: will cut it up to the skull whatever, You're gonna

821
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: fold the hide in, and now you're just gonna start

822
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: rolling it up. And then what I do is I

823
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: bring the cape up to the antlers, then I run

824
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: it through the front times and then kind of create

825
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: this where instead of strapping it or lashing into my pack,

826
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: I find it where I put it over my shoulders

827
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: with that sitting on the top of the pack, and

828
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: then you can hand hold it. And then I'll use

829
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: some paracord to kind of tie that bundle up where

830
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: it kind of sits naturally. That's probably the easiest way

831
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: to take care of the cape in the skull if

832
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: they're attached. Another way would be do you drop the

833
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: cape down on into your backpack with the antlers going down?

834
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: You know you'll see a blood Pictures of me with

835
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: the antlers up. It can be dangerous in some places.

836
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: If I'm in an area where I know it's not

837
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: going to make a difference. You know, yeah, you might

838
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: catch branches or if I'm in the open and whatever,

839
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: it's easier that way. But find a stick because a

840
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: stick will kind of pull the antlers away from the pack.

841
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: And you know we do that when we're packing out

842
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: on horses to keep the antlers from dropping down and

843
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: hitting them in the sides or whatever. So that stick

844
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: keeps the antlers out, and then you know, the packs

845
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: full of the cape. One thing I will suggest everybody

846
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: should figure out and learn how to keep out a

847
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: deer and then just cut the bottom jaw off the skull.

848
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: It is so easy. It takes fifteen minutes extra. It

849
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: saves you a lot of time. Um, these are just

850
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: things that I've noticed. I'm not necessarily saying it's from

851
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: this question, but you need to know how to do that.

852
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: That's I would say this is an essential of a

853
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: skill as quartering out an animal. It's a skill that

854
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: you need to understand how to do, and it's not

855
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: hard to do. I always keep the skull out from

856
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: the what just depends. I guess it depends. You know

857
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: the best way to do it's probably from the lips first.

858
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: You just cut running around the lips on the inside

859
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: of the mouth, cut that out, start skinning up to

860
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: the eye. Go from the back of the head, cut away,

861
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: go around the burs, and then once you get to

862
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: the ice, stick finger in the eye socket and just

863
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: start cutting around. Then you've got the tear duct. You

864
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: just make sure you kind of keep all the inner

865
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: eyelid in there, you know, you just go stay close

866
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: to the bone, and then you pull it off the face.

867
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: You're done. You cut the bottom jaw off at the

868
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: joints and pop the jaw off. Good to go, save weight,

869
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: make it easier to pack. Now I'm kind of getting

870
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: back to this question. So I've got a stone glacier

871
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: load cell bag and I just keep that four capes

872
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: because it's like real nice and tight and skinny. Or

873
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: I've used like a seed of summit dry bags in

874
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: the past, and what it is just like keeps it

875
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: more structured. I will turn the face inside out and

876
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: I call it just like put it in like a python,

877
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: like a snake in a bag. I don't try to

878
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: roll it. I just put it in the bag like

879
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: I would put a large boa constrictor into a remember

880
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: jake the snake it wrestling, where you like put the

881
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: snake in a bag. That's how I treat the cape. Um,

882
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: they are not super fragile, but you have to treat

883
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: the high like you would meet it. Can it can spoil,

884
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: and then the hair will slip when it comes to tanning.

885
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen. Guys kind of Oh it's the cape,

886
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: they kind of you know, scrunch it up, keep it

887
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: in a garbage bag whatever, you know, and then and

888
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: then it goes off and then the hair starts to slip,

889
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: probably more times than not as well. What I'll do,

890
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: like if you've got the cape and you've got the room,

891
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, I always have an extra trash bag, black

892
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: trash bag in my pack. You know, maybe I'll just

893
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: feed that thing right into my pack. And that's the

894
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: way to go. Now, when you're freezing your cape or whatever,

895
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: you can take it to the texts. The best way

896
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: to do it is you put it on something so

897
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't get all the sticks and everything on it,

898
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: fold it hair side in, then you roll it up

899
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: and then I leave the face, you know, inside out,

900
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: so it's like the skin portion out on the top,

901
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: folded over itself, and then stuff that roll into the

902
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: freezer or whatever until you can get it to a

903
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: tax enermous or you don't do any of that, you

904
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: flesh it out salted hit on a lot of topics there,

905
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: But I think that cape prep, you know, like all

906
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: these kind of like after the fact things, you know,

907
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: especially now, like you can't really travel across state lines

908
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: with brain matters, So just understanding how to properly boil

909
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: skulls and things is really knowledge you should have for

910
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: traveling hunters. And there's easy ways to do it and

911
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: there's hard ways to do it, you know, even everything

912
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: down to like clean skinning. So I'm gonna actually gonna

913
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: be doing a bunch of how to videos on all

914
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: that stuff you're coming up soon over the nick course

915
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: of the fall, winter spring. When I say these things,

916
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: keep me honest, just be like, hey, where are those

917
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: videos you were talking about? Like, say a bunch of

918
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: stuff and then get too busy, But um, I really

919
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: want to do some of those. I actually just did

920
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: a goal boiling. I could call it boiling, but you

921
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: don't really want to actually boil it. So I'm just

922
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: using the term boiling as like you're putting the skull

923
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: in hot water tutorial on my Instagram, And I was

924
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: amazing how many people really like like to that information

925
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: and didn't really know all the ways, and there's so

926
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: many different ways to do it. So I think that

927
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: actually is just gonna bring me into next week's podcast.

928
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Let's talk skull prep, like let's call it a euro

929
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: amount where it's boiling the skull, bleaching it out, cleaning

930
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: out bleaching, but not using bleach. See all these terms,

931
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: these old school terms that see why it's so confusing

932
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: for everyone you know, and then everybody you know when

933
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I did that saying oh you should use this and that,

934
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, there's I use different products in different ways

935
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: of doing it for different things that I want to

936
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: get done. So I think a podcast is a great way,

937
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: even though it's a very visual process. I think it's

938
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: something that I'll be able to explain and kind of

939
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: tell you some like tips and things that I do.

940
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of ways to skin

941
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: a cat. That term should just be there's a lot

942
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: of ways to boil and bleach in your amount, your

943
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: elk deer, whatever, because I've I've done it seven thousand

944
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: ways and had seven thousand good results. You know, there's

945
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: a lot of ways you can do it, but um,

946
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: I kind of got a way that seems to work

947
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: for me, so I stick to it. So I think

948
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: let's cover that next week. And thank you guys so

949
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: much for the questions. As always, you know, constantly shoot

950
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: me questions because what I'm doing is I'm just gonna

951
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: be honest and here's my system that's been working for

952
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: me because I'm out hunting and everything. I'll go on

953
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: Instagram for somebody's got a cool question that like, I

954
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: just screenshot it, put it in a file, and then

955
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: I get back to a lot of try to get

956
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: back to all of those questions if I don't have

957
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: time to answer it, because hopefully I'm out in the

958
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: field and it's like I'll be on the top of

959
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: the mountain. I get like in my pocket, Oh he

960
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: got service here. Scroll through find ten questions, Screenshot, screenshot, screenshot,

961
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: save it whatever. But you can also email me at

962
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Remy at the meat eat here dot com if you

963
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: don't have social media or whatever, you prefer that email method,

964
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: that's a great method as well, so Instagram at remu

965
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: warrant or there. Also remember if you and if you

966
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: guys subscribe to the podcast, I appreciate that, and you know,

967
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: leave a comment or I don't rate it whatever whatever

968
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: suits you. I'm not I won't tell you what to do,

969
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: but if you would like to do that, that would

970
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: be awesome. I appreciate it a lot. So thank you

971
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: guys so much for everything you do. Hopefully this stuff

972
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: is helpful and keep sending me all of that success pictures.

973
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: Those are that that makes my day. Like I'm just like, yes, okay,

974
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad somebody liked that topic and that help in

975
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: some way. So keep them coming and catch you guys

976
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: next week