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Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and.

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Speaker 2: We are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is v Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and it is time for it the Fantasy Football

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Speaker 2: Focus as we kick off our number two here and

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Speaker 2: well are our bad luck in our DFS lineups of

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Speaker 2: putting guys in the lineup who then go out and

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Speaker 2: get hurt? Yeah, is just amazing this year.

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Speaker 3: Beware whoever we pick next week, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for that young man because their their

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Speaker 3: health is in jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: To this week got hurt two and once again was

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver that we paid up to get aj Brown,

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Speaker 2: the guys.

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Speaker 3: We could at least afford to lose, right right.

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Speaker 2: Pay eighty one hundred dollars for the guy, and he

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Speaker 2: goes out and catches two passes for thirty six yards

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Speaker 2: and doesn't play the entire second half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was even. I think it ruled

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Speaker 3: out before halftime. I mean it's early in the game.

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Speaker 2: Chris Olave gets hurt in the first quarter, got zero.

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Speaker 2: He had won for thirteen oh did he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? How many zeros have we gotten this year? Though?

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Speaker 3: I mean almost every week we've had.

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Speaker 2: Somebody somebody's who's gotten hurt. Because overall our lineup well,

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Speaker 2: not great. Derek Carr was owned in five point nine

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Speaker 2: percent of league's thirteen point four to four points. Wasn't great,

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Speaker 2: but didn't kill.

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Speaker 3: Us be nicely. Had his number one receiver would have

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Speaker 3: been helpful, although he contributed to losing his number.

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Speaker 2: One receever, Tyrone Tracy sixty six rushing yards, one catch

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Speaker 2: for three yards, seven point nine points. That could have

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Speaker 2: been better. But seventeen point nine percent ownership for him,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were in the same

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Speaker 2: thought that we had there.

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Speaker 3: Now Washington can be run on and he's clearly their

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Speaker 3: number one.

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown, Yeah, fifty two point one percent ownership on him,

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Speaker 2: We got twenty nine point seven points out of him.

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Speaker 3: Try to touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Everybody had him in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that didn't help obviously.

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs thirty one point four percent ownership. He had

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Speaker 2: six catches for sixty yards twelve points. Again that the

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Speaker 2: thirty one point four doesn't help us, no, But aj

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Speaker 2: Brown only eleven point three percent ownership. That was our

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Speaker 2: just killed us, just killed us.

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean that's like your first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lave was owned in forty two point five

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Speaker 2: percent of leagues. We got two point three points out

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Speaker 2: of him against the Panthers against he would have caught it,

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Speaker 2: who knows, seven or eight passest there, probably right, he's

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Speaker 2: may have blown up the Titans defense. Only six point

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Speaker 2: three percent ownership and we got eleven points.

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Speaker 3: That was solid.

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Speaker 2: That was solid. We still have Kitot and DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 2: going tonight.

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Speaker 3: Actually pretty high hopes for both.

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Speaker 2: We've got eighty one point nine four points. Yeah, right

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Speaker 2: now the payoff is at one hundred and twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Need some touchdowns for my guys.

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Speaker 2: We would need, we would need two monster games from

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Speaker 2: took you just kickt zero and overcome that. When you

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Speaker 2: get basically eight points out of two guys in your

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Speaker 3: Hurt, they probably are two most expensive dudes, right.

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Speaker 2: They were right, there was Yeah, they were one and two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: our our two most expensive guys got hurt, got hurt

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Speaker 2: early in the early in the games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, said, but this is what kind of week.

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Speaker 2: It was. I, as you know, do my own lineup

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Speaker 2: every week as well. I scored one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: eight points with my big number, it's a big number,

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Speaker 2: and didn't finish in the money in a fifty fifty league.

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Speaker 3: And just watching I didn't think, boy, this is a

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Speaker 2: But I told you, I gave you the lineup for

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Speaker 2: who won. That one was loaded. Everybody that went off

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, guy had like two hundred and forty points.

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Speaker 3: That's more shocking than the leader going insane. I mean,

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Speaker 3: somebody rolls snake eyes and gets everyone right, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that. I'm sure that happens with some regularity

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Speaker 2: I had some dudes in my lineup. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 3: Sure you didn't have any zeros or guys that left earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it because I had Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: good game eighteen point seven eight. Yeah, yeah, Deny thirty

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Speaker 2: Neighbors got fourteen to nine. A lave killed me, Darnell

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Speaker 2: Mooney good game?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Taysom Hill at tight end sixteen points?

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Speaker 3: Is he in every week starting Fantasy tight end? Though?

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Speaker 3: Especially the l sideline? Like who else could touch the

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Speaker 3: ball besides Zabn Kamara? Yeah, I mean it's a miserable team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Jake Ferguson and the flex got fourteen

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Speaker 2: twenty two. Wow, and I didn't finish in the money.

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Speaker 3: Well, again, a lave killed you.

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Speaker 2: If ten points out of a lava, I'm in the money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Let me say that's obviously the the sticking point here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the way I mean stuff goes.

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Speaker 3: You draft on them. If you pick one of those

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Speaker 3: that's got a lot of zeros. Yeah too.

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Speaker 2: Uh, looking at this week's top performers. Geno Smith three

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Speaker 2: sixty three, three touchdowns, three interceptions, seven sacks.

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Speaker 3: I would say they're protection so bad. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: but they're protecting that good. Their protection is like as

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Speaker 2: So that's why I you know, I started that Rams defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they go into a bye. They need

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Speaker 3: the left tackle, good player, the other four starters would

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford two ninety eight and two touchdowns with an interception,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's range. And he lost in the coup. I

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Speaker 3: forget what point of the game, but that didn't help Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Darnold had two ninety and three touchdowns, justin Herbert two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was under pressure a lot. They're throwing more though.

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Speaker 2: Lamar was only sixteen to nineteen but had two hundred

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Speaker 3: Hey get a perfect passer rating or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Jordan loved two seventy three but did not throw a

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Speaker 3: He was struggling to the weather was not helpful.

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Speaker 2: Cousins this week. I started Cousins.

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Speaker 2: I just wasn't sure about Love's hamstring injury. I think

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'll lot be wetfield.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that.

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Speaker 3: His guys are dropping passes too, and they've been dropping.

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Speaker 3: They've been dropping a lot of drops all year.

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Speaker 2: Burrow had the just two fifty one, but five touchdown

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Speaker 2: passest a lot of multiple touchdown passes. Josh Allen had three,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins had three, Aaron Rodgers had three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's been a lot of weeks where

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Speaker 2: the leader, like two guys had two and nobody else work.

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Speaker 2: So that leads to some of the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two positions get fantasy points.

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Speaker 2: Then, yeou only seven one hundred yard rushers this week?

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Speaker 2: Sake one twenty seven for one fifty nine. Is he

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Speaker 2: top two in a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Is it him and Henry? Are they the best fantasy

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Speaker 2: Kamara had twenty nine for one fifty five.

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Speaker 3: He's been really good too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, catches a ton of balls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard twenty eight for one to twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Whi's interesting about that offense. I mean they played the Patriot.

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Speaker 3: It was a bad game, of course, but everything now

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Speaker 3: since the trade is going to Ridley and Pollard. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown had twenty seven for one to twenty. Talked

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Speaker 3: And he was I don't know if he was dinged

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry twenty three for one oh six and two

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Speaker 2: scores only his long run was twenty yards in that game,

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Speaker 2: so it was kind of more of a grinded out

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Speaker 3: They let some other guys get involved late too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Joe Mixon twenty four for one oh six in

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Speaker 3: He's been great too.

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Speaker 2: Drake may just missed. He had eight for ninety five.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. I mean, I forget who I was

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Speaker 3: listened to, like it was a fantasy set.

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Speaker 2: He's still an injury. Wait, and he takes some big hits. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he takes a huge hits. But if you put him

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Speaker 2: in the Bears offense, in Caleb with the Patriots, Oh,

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Speaker 2: the fantasy points he'd be putting up. He has nothing

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Speaker 2: around him in New England, but he's built for fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs had thirteen for ninety five. He wasn't undred

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Speaker 2: percent either, He wasn't one hundred percent. Yeah, he gave

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the other two guys got involved.

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Speaker 2: By Jeanne Robinson nineteen for eighty six.

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Speaker 3: He looks tremendous. JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins had fourteen for eighty five and two scores.

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Speaker 3: Eighty score twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Kenneth Walker had eighty three yards on twenty five carries.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a slog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just struggle. Rico dal dell At twelve for seventy

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Speaker 2: five also caught a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: If they don't trade for anyone, I think it's his backfield. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: kind of like the Chase Brown situation. Like if it's

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Speaker 3: you don't be the best player, but if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: get a heavy, heavy workload, you're super fantasy relevant.

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Speaker 2: Cuba Hubard had two more touchdowns. I mean, he's state

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Speaker 3: Are you still starting Tuba? It's not exactly a powerhouse offense. No.

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Speaker 3: They have to see what the rookie can do.

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Speaker 3: No, it was a fluky run. Terrible defense.

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Speaker 3: He was hurt, So Eckler got every touch or got

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Speaker 2: Yeah so, And I don't think Robinson's injury is huge.

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Speaker 2: They gotta win eleven one yard receivers this week.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and that's with Brown a lot of a London

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith a Jigba blew up seven for one eighty

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Speaker 3: Metcalf's out or was out. Smith and Jigmi went crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't do that last week when no Metcalf

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I traded him this week in a dynasty

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson seven for one thirty seven but didn't score.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's great.

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Speaker 2: He's great. Zay Flowers five for one twenty seven and.

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Speaker 3: Two scores in a really good game.

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Speaker 2: If Denver could tackle, yeah that doesn't happen. But apparently

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Speaker 3: Is he a cell high with Deontay Luhman? I would?

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Speaker 3: I think you can get a lot for day Flowers

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Speaker 2: The problem. The problem is it was five for one

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Speaker 3: Passing games clicking but I think he's a cell.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Tank Dell six for one to twenty six, didn't

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Speaker 3: He had a sixty six yarder that was a blown

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Speaker 3: coverage too. Yeah, I wouldn't get too excited about him.

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Speaker 3: Mconky's still their number one.

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Speaker 2: Jaden Reid five for one thirteen, Jakobe Meers eight for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's kind of like the Titans situation where

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Speaker 3: a coordinator change? Are they making it? Is rid of

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Speaker 2: That I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying, is it quarterback and coordinator change?

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine it would be. He's only been there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to throw it be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about him. Yeah. I would imagine Vin

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup coming back. Cooper Cup had eleven for one

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Speaker 3: He's legit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Roma Dunsey a five for one oh four

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Speaker 3: He's been a little disappointing fantasy wise.

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Speaker 2: Mike Giseki five for one hundred and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: There's something there with that, because he's become the t Higgins.

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Speaker 3: When Higgins is out, Gasecki's blown up. I think he

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Speaker 3: the other tight ended all. I know All's out for

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Speaker 3: There's a real trend of Higgins in. Gasecki's not that useful.

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Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson had six for ninety four and two scores,

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Speaker 2: including a walk off. DeVante Adams seven for ninety one

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Speaker 3: London going out helped him.

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Speaker 2: That helped, Yeah. DeVonta Smith four for eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Made a remarkable catch too.

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Speaker 2: Jatavian Sanders shows up on the list again, four for

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Speaker 3: They want him to be the number one tight end,

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Speaker 3: So whether he can grab it and keep it, who knows,

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Speaker 3: but it's pretty clear what they're doing. On offense. They're

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Speaker 2: Tyreek had four for eighty Still not what's not the same.

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Speaker 2: It's not what you wanted.

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Speaker 3: Model's not being used hardly at all. He had like

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Speaker 2: He had negative yardage. He ended up with negative. I

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Speaker 2: didn't receive, but it was a really weird They're trying

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Speaker 3: Not easy to do.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Cedric Tillman, they just signed them. They're not trade

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna try to movie one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: But uh, Cedric Tillman six for seventy five in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He's real.

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Speaker 2: He had eleven targets in that game.

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Speaker 3: I think he's had like twenty five over the last

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Speaker 3: two weeks. Now. He's their best receiver and Jamis is

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy had seven for seventy three in the same game.

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Speaker 3: So he's become Yeah, he's getting a lot of targets

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Speaker 2: At least until they changed quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I assume that's coming soon. Yeah, Rudolph's been serviceable.

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Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson seven for seventy one, that kind of he does. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ray Davis two for seven he had in a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: He had a sixty three yarder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Ferguson's not happy about the DAK news though. No,

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Speaker 3: that's not good at all.

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Speaker 2: McConkie. You mentioned five for sixty four. Josh Palmer also

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Speaker 2: so nothing real. One other guy that's on here that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just saying, looking into their receivers, McLaurin

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Speaker 3: he's clearly the one. He's going to be the Porter

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Speaker 3: but I think Brown is the two because they still

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Speaker 2: And you know, so he's a bigger body guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, so maybe they use more for downfield blocking

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Speaker 3: He's got some toughness to him and he also catches

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the look at this week's fantasy football

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Speaker 3: What Adam Schefter says, and then, but this quest for

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Speaker 2: Chasing the holy grail here and yeah, every time you

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Speaker 3: Oh he gets hurt, you know. Yeah. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he saw this, but I think Slayton is now

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Speaker 2: Of course he is.

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Speaker 3: Of course he is, you know, right, Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: So some of the guys that available here this according

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Speaker 3: I think there's a handful of teams you can get

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Speaker 2: Jaguars offensive tackle Walker little Tray, both left tackles.

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Speaker 3: I guess they're really really concerned with the franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: kJ Osborne with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I think you have pretty much any Patriots. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Marshawn Lattimore with the Saints. That one's interesting to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you can trade for Marshawn Latimore, like okay, So

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Speaker 2: the Ravens went out and got themselves another pass catcher. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the tires on one hundred of them. But we'll just

443
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 3: make a strength of further strength. And I don't think

444
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,959
Speaker 3: he's still a top five corner, but you can win

445
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 3: a lot of games with him as your number two.

446
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what you do with Dante Jack.

447
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how the slot thing works out.

448
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 3: That would be just like a weird part of it.

449
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 3: But it's just an abundance of riches though it's a

450
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,439
Speaker 3: hard position to get. He's good. I'm sure he's buddies

451
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 3: with Cam Hayward back to Ohio State and all those things,

452
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 3: and he still plays well.

453
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tredevious White, we talked about him before he play anymore. Yeah,

454
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: Giants offensive lineman Evan Neil. I've heard they're not trading him.

455
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,199
Speaker 3: I've thrown that name out there too. I mean, for

456
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: a bag of football's just bring him in here and

457
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: see if he Yeah, they don't want to move on

458
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 3: from him, they don't want to play him either.

459
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: Well, I guess maybe you're rebuilding him a.

460
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 3: Little bit, you would think. I mean, he's a.

461
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: Disaster Panthers running back Miles Sanders. But he's been available

462
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: pretty much. You get nothing to Yeah, there's no way

463
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 2: they're holding on to him just for Brooks to come back. No,

464
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: looking at some of the other guys who might be there,

465
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: Jack Conklin with the Browns, I could see that happening. Yeah,

466
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: he's not going to be a brown next year.

467
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: No, someone could use a tackle.

468
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't see Bryce Young moving. I don't see the pack.

469
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't see the Panthers making that move.

470
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean you only get like a fourth round pick

471
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 3: for him, you know what I mean, Like.

472
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: You've had to used the first overall pick up and

473
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: you gave up more than just that. You gave a

474
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: bunch of picks, getting just a.

475
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 3: For more and yeah, I mean you gave up a

476
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: ton for him, which you can't look at it that way.

477
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what you gave up. If it's time

478
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: to move on, time to move on. But play him

479
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: the rest of the year. Just do that.

480
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's Tredavious White. No Sebastian Joseph Day with

481
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: the Titans.

482
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: It's funny brought up Titans because I was asked about

483
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Simmons. I can't see them trading Jeffery Simon wouldn't

484
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: think so either, But Joseph Days a high quality, tough

485
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: guy lineman that would fit in very well here. Yeah,

486
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: I would ask about Simmons. I mean, they they've a

487
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 3: lot invested in off season acquisitions. They need to find

488
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback in some way. They're a team to call

489
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: in general.

490
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: And I know everybody's everybody's focused on wide receiver, wide receiver,

491
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: wide receiver. But if you could make your defense better,

492
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: and I.

493
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: Say, if you can give me a D lineman that

494
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: can play meaningful snaps, let alone a big time one.

495
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm just saying about even just like a quality one.

496
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 2: More.

497
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm always in favor of that. I mean, if I

498
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: was ever ever in charge team, which will never happen,

499
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 3: I would always have an extra D alignment. You know,

500
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: went in doubt, give me another one. You don't need one,

501
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: but second round rules around, there's a great one there.

502
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: Take them. Yeah.

503
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker with the Cardinals, he's been constantly Yeah, they're

504
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: not trading Buddha Baker now. They just made a trade

505
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: for a linebacker in the first place. They're not trading

506
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker.

507
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 3: No, there's no way he's their leader. I mean he's there,

508
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward, I mean he's there's no way he's like

509
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: when they're only building block type guy or you foundational

510
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: defensive players.

511
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: I mentioned Osbourne, he was a guy that was available

512
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: during the offseason. I've always kind of liked the player,

513
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: but he's not an upgrade from Van Jefferson level or yeah,

514
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: maybe slightly less. He hasn't had a great gives you

515
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: he gives you better depth, but it doesn't make you

516
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: a better team necessary.

517
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: I remember I remember having these season conversations, you know,

518
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: on the drives, going, well, what if you take kJ

519
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: Osborne or Westbrook, a Kine or somebody like that and

520
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: the day two pick, right, you know which the day

521
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: two pick came, but they're not getting something out of that. Yeah,

522
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 3: you know, but that's he doesn't solve all your problems.

523
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: No, or you know, not at all.

524
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: Maybe even upgrade. He's a depth guy.

525
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: Za Darius Smith with the Browns. I think he gets

526
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: traded to Detroit.

527
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: That's been heavily rumored, Like I wasn't sure if that's

528
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: official yet even.

529
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point, I think there there's a number

530
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: of teams who are really interested in him. I think

531
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: Cleveland's probably just holding out to see what they can get.

532
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: He would be like a leal here. I don't even

533
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: think he's he's kind of a square peg, round hole.

534
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: He's thirty two years old. Yeah, yeah, the Brown's gonna

535
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: trade him here anyway. Yeah, we mentioned Latimore. What about

536
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones with the Patriots?

537
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: Which Jones is he? Is he the little slot guy

538
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: or they have a lot of Jones quarter but corners.

539
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he is.

540
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: Is he the one from Houston that's real small? Yeah,

541
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: he's really intriguing. I think he. I'm almost certain he

542
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: had off the field stuff coming out.

543
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 2: Of huge And he's also thirty one. Now, oh then

544
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: that's not the same one. Oh, because there was the

545
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: one that was drafted a lot that's in like a

546
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: second or third year. That's a slot slash returner, could

547
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: even be like a offensive player. Too many Jones, I

548
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: would say, that's why they're all boring. First name Jones.

549
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: It's not like they distinguish themselves. Yeah, that one's okay.

550
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean he's not in their long term plans, it'd

551
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: be a depth guy, would be number three.

552
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: At this point, I'm more I want to see what

553
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: Cam Sutton brings. Yeah to the Steelers defense.

554
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 3: And Trice isn't gonna be out long right.

555
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: No, he's eligible to return here in yeah, a week

556
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: or two.

557
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: If you want to get Latimore for nothing, Yeah, okay.

558
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: The Steelers add to the defense. I think the defensive

559
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: line is the way to go.

560
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I totally agree. I'd like a big,

561
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: established interior d lineman Chase Young with the Saints. I

562
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: think he gets moved. Like, if I'm the Ravens, I'm calling.

563
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: If I'm the Lions, I'm calling. He's had a pretty

564
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 3: good year. He's a total He's a new Javan. Clowney,

565
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: He's a total mercenary. Early pick be a new team

566
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: every year. Clowney could get moved too. Yeah, he's an

567
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: injury there. Goldinger put out a video of Clowney the

568
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: other day. Look at all this great stuff he does.

569
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, show the low lights. Yeah. He also only

570
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: wins one way. He's not bendy. I mean he runs

571
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: through you. He's a very long armed power dude.

572
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: He had a good year. For the Ravens last year.

573
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: But he's never lived up with the hype. No, and

574
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of low lights. Yeah, I think Chase

575
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: Young is a better player.

576
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: No, I agree. I agree. He can still bend the

577
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: edge a little bit. Yeah.

578
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: Uh and then the big pass rusher. I can't imagine

579
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: the Giants would move on from Zizo Jualai.

580
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: Is he up after the year?

581
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: I think he might be.

582
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of these situations where he's it's

583
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 3: kind of a better version of Aaron Brows.

584
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: Twenty four years old.

585
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: Right.

586
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I understand they have Burns and they have Thibodeau, right,

587
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: but at this point Thibodeau, he's had half a good

588
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 2: season m hm.

589
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: And he's injured now, yeah, I mean he's on IR.

590
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: I think he's due back soon. I guess the reasoning

591
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: for putting ozelari on there is you could get something

592
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: for him, you know. Could you know the Cardinals traded

593
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 3: for Browning, Well, they could get something for Brian Burns too,

594
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: if they're going to.

595
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Go that route.

596
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think that's what they're willing to do,

597
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, some of these guys have moved recently.

598
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: Could you get them I'm not saying even Davante Adams,

599
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: but if you're the Jets, you should consider trading Davante Adams.

600
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: You're not winning anything now, failed experiment, get out, you know,

601
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: sell them for eighty eighty percent on the dollar.

602
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: That would be a bold move, they would now.

603
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: But nobody ever admits defeat like.

604
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: That, especially not two weeks after the owner said we're

605
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: gonna kick everybody's you know what.

606
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's any one one.

607
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: Now.

608
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: They think they're back.

609
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Now, they think they're back in. Yeah, when you're not.

610
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: They're not. I think they're I don't know. It will

611
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: be an interesting second half of them, but I can't

612
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: imagine they get in the final seven. Yeah.

613
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: Uh, you know to me, you know, more realistic targets

614
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: for the Steelers, if you know, if you're looking at

615
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: a wide receiver.

616
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett.

617
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Lockett would be intriguing for sure.

618
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I keep hearing DK Metcalf and I'm.

619
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think they're giving up DK lot Yeah,

620
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: I would be surprised.

621
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: I would be surprised to Lockett, I could see the

622
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: moving n's ready. They like Bobo, you know, I mean,

623
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 3: they lost everybody likes Bobo. You just like to say, Bobo,

624
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: that's so much fun. Yeah, ive any other names we

625
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: haven't brought up a hundred times.

626
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: Slayton would be interesting again. You know, if you're looking

627
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: for a true slot type guy, Tyler Boy would make

628
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: some sense, you know, feeling would make sense. But I

629
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: don't know what he has.

630
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: Left, so he didn't play this week too. Some of

631
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: there's some injury stuff out there with these guys too.

632
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

633
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Mike Williams just doesn't do it for me, though.

634
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 3: No, you'd get him for nothing, maybe get something out

635
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: of him. He doesn't help on teams. Yeah, I mean

636
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: it's okay. It wouldn't be the answer. No, it wouldn't be.

637
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if he'd be a starter. Yeah, I

638
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: mean two receiver sets even out there.

639
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: The only problem with trading for a slot receiver that

640
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: you didn't have is again, it's it doesn't mitigate what happens.

641
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: If George Pickens get hurt, gets hurts, you're still in

642
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: the same boat that you are. Now you can you

643
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: can adjust things a little bit more if you have

644
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: a really good slot.

645
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: If Pickens gets hurt, it's doom. Yeah, I mean, it's

646
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: gonna be hard.

647
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I think Arthur Smith's a bright

648
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: enough guy. Oh yeah, to scheme it up with what

649
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: he's got.

650
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing.

651
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he did it. He did that in Atlanta.

652
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I know. I think he's done a wonderful job

653
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: of it. But you got to have one, dude, Yeah,

654
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: you know.

655
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean you can. You could play a game without

656
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: George Pickens.

657
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: A game, yeah, But if it was Pickens falls in

658
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: a hole right now and is out for the year,

659
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: I think he'd be in big trouble.

660
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: I think he'd be in big trouble. You know. Trading

661
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: for Mike Williams doesn't solve that, No, of course, not right.

662
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not going to get a Pickin's replacement.

663
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: But I look at unless you go out to buy

664
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: something huge.

665
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: And the reason I think Arthur Smith schemes things up

666
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: to make it work, regardless of what pieces he's I

667
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: really think. And what made me think of this. I

668
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: was finishing up a story on Corderoo Patterson today and

669
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: something that that Arthur Smith said a couple of weeks ago.

670
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: When I asked him about Cordo Patterson, he said, we

671
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: got him late in the process his first year in Atlanta,

672
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith's first year in Atlanta. Yeah, and we were

673
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: basically we had just jettisoned a bunch of guys for

674
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: cap purposes. Oh yeah, yeah, we're just looking for that

675
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: anybody who could make place.

676
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: He inherited Matt Ryan end of contract.

677
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: Our contracts were app Yeah, they were in bad shape. Yeah,

678
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: and so they got Cordell Patterson on the cheap, and

679
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: he took him and turned him into a running back,

680
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: put the RB next to his name and made him

681
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: his you know, his primary runner, eature back, right, and

682
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: he goes out and runs for seven hundred yards and

683
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: catches fifty passes. You know, he did it.

684
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: He doesn't need great ingredients.

685
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: No, Kyle Pitts. Everybody talks about Kyle Pitt's rookie year. Well,

686
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: he caught a you know, a thousand yards receiving. Well,

687
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: then the next year they go out and get Drake

688
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: London and so now they didn't lean quite as much

689
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: on pits as they did the year before. They got

690
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: Johnny Smith as well that year. So he just kind

691
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: of mixes and matches with what he's got.

692
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes worth that. I think that's one of his strengths. Yeah,

693
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: without question. I mean, no one will tell you the

694
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: Steelers skill guys are the most talented. You know, They're

695
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: not Reese Hall and Wilson and all these hype London

696
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: Robinson pits, you know, all the top ten picks. But

697
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: he he builds a nice stew with potatoes and carrots

698
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: and stuff you can find, you know what I mean.

699
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: And just finds a way to move the football that way.

700
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: Whether it's you know, leaning on the running game, or

701
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: whether it's throwing to the tight ends or throw into

702
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: the backs or whatever it may be. He finds a

703
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: way to move the football regardless of what he has.

704
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's definitely.

705
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Really honestly, I thought his Falcons team's overachieved every year, especially,

706
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: but they won seven games every year with not seven

707
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: game talent.

708
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: I've said this on the air before. The Steelers' quarterbacks

709
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: while Arthur Smith was the head coach of the Falcons,

710
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: were noticeably better than the Falcons quarterbacks. It was that bad.

711
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Mariota shouldn't be in the league. I mean

712
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: he was hideous. Last year. Matt Ryan was worse than

713
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: last year Ben at that point, I mean not even close.

714
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: Ritter shouldn't be. I mean considered for a start.

715
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: What he did in those seasons is akin to what

716
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin did in twenty nineteen, the Duck year, the

717
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: duck year, winning games like.

718
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: That, Oh despite your quarterback, I mean flat out despite

719
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: the quarterback, really low completion percentage. And they had a

720
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: line and they had dudes too. Yeah, you know, for

721
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: a lot of it.

722
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: So, you know, if the Steelers don't make a trade

723
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: for a wide receiver, I'm not gonna it is what

724
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: it is. They tried, they couldn't get one. A lot

725
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: of it was. I had somebody, you know, come at

726
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: me on social media. Well they you know they they

727
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: because I said something about, you know, you can't overpay

728
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: for these guys. We got to overpay. No, give me

729
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: the definition of overpaying means you paid too much.

730
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: And frankly, it's been a really good year for the Steelers.

731
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: But if the Chiefs look at it, like, man, we

732
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: just lost Kelsey, I'm gonna go spend more than I

733
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: should for a three peat. You know, something that's never

734
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: been done in history. All right, overpay, you know, push

735
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: all your chips in. I get it. Maybe you'll pay

736
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: for it. Down the Road a little, but more often

737
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: than not. In this league, that's bad.

738
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: When you overpays, it's called the definition is that you

739
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: paid too much. You don't want to pay too much.

740
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: Second round draft picks their gold Zach Frazier, Joey Porter,

741
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Keon Hu Benton, George Pickens. I mean that's look what

742
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: their cap hits are at Friarmouth nothing. Yeah, these are

743
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: good football players on your on your team right now.

744
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 3: Maybe your most important, some of your most important.

745
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, now we were second round draft picks. I'm not

746
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: interested in giving up a two. I mean, we're talking

747
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: about a half year rental.

748
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Right, if it's DK Metcalf, it's under a contract, I'll listen.

749
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: But not for trying to get you into the playoffs

750
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: or to win one playoff game. No, that's that's.

751
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: Not how this works, right right right, And you know.

752
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: It was Christian Kirk. It wasn't gonna be for a two. Yeah.

753
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: The guy came back to me as well, you know

754
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: these other teams that they haven't overpaid for this, you know,

755
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, maybe they didn't like DeAndre Hopkins.

756
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: He might be shot. We don't know. He's got fourteen catches.

757
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: This year. Yeah, he's not the same guy.

758
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: He's not He's not that guy.

759
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: A good game that night, he might help them win

760
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: down stretch, There's no question. But what they paid for

761
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: on tape is not the hop from five years ago.

762
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: They couldn't trade for Deontay Johnson. Big rules prohibit that.

763
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper wasn't coming here. The Browns weren't going to

764
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: trade Amari Cooper.

765
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: To the Steelers. He cost a third round pick too.

766
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: And he cost a third round pick. So who else

767
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: you got? Davante Adams? Okay, they were in the mix

768
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: of that, but Davante wanted to go to New York.

769
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: The Raiders said, Okay, we're gonna We're gonna take care

770
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: of you here. We'll send you with your buddy.

771
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 3: They it's not like they've been sitting around doing nothing.

772
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely had Ayuk talks and who knows

773
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: who else.

774
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: You just know it hasn't worked out. But I'm not

775
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: just going to throw a pick at somebody just to

776
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: throw a pick at somebody. Well, we'll throw this guy

777
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: mix and see what he is.

778
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: Obviously, they've had a price in mind, a type of

779
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: receiver in mind, and realize it's a need or a want, right.

780
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: But just because the trade deadline is TikTok coming doesn't

781
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: mean we we've talked to t X for three months.

782
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: They want to three. We want to give him a four. Oh,

783
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: we'll do it now, that's something going to happen. No,

784
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's still the same cost. The business model

785
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: hasn't changed.

786
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: No, And I think you do and so and many cases.

787
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: It's why they're called negotiations. You do have to stick

788
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: to your guns somewhat because you know, if you start

789
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: giving in on those things, then the next guy's going

790
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: to come in and go, well, I can get them

791
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: to if all I have to do is ride this out,

792
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: I can get them to give up something that they

793
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to give up.

794
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: And I get the impression just from Afar watching Omar

795
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: work trades, because he's done quite a few pretty patient

796
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: six by his guns, you know, like crocodile blood.

797
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Well it's not just Omar, Yeah, Wow, somebody above Omar

798
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: has to sign off on this stuff. And he's a

799
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: pretty patient guy too.

800
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the whole organization as a whole. Yeah, it's

801
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: not a just.

802
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: Flying colllect shiny new things. How's that worked out for

803
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: the Jets, by the way, Panthers.

804
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely shiny new thing electors. Yeah.

805
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: The teams that do that typically don't do real well.

806
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, DeAndre Hopkins could go off tonight. Yeah,

807
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: but he might not. I don't know if he's still

808
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: any good or not.

809
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

810
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

811
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what they gave up for him.

812
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: Is it a five? Yeah, conditional or something like that.

813
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: That's a fair price.

814
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: It's a fair price. Fair price, you're rolling the dice that.

815
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about a guy who was missing

816
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: games early in the season because of a knee injury,

817
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: and he's thirty two years old.

818
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's done very little this year. Yeah.

819
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: Now you know, if you can get Adam Feeling for

820
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: conditional seven, all right, Yeah, but I'm not interested in

821
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: giving up a two or three for some of these

822
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 2: guys that are out there.

823
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean it had to be a star. Yeah,

824
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: you know, like before you got hurt, I'm like, what

825
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: would it cost to get a lavee? You're in a mess.

826
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: You probably shouldn't trade that guy, but you got such problems. Well,

827
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: it ain't happened.

828
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: It's not happening right now.

829
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: No chance it's happened next twenty four hours.

830
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I you know, Tyreek Hill for a three.

831
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, well I mean somebody like that. Yeah, yeah,

832
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: we're easily talking that that neighborhood. But are they on

833
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: the market.

834
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: Right, you just I mean it takes two to tango.

835
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: It's this.

836
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: This is not mad in football, where you just all,

837
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw this trade together and I can make

838
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: this work, and yeah, it just goes through.

839
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: Or like our pre draft trades, like we're gonna move

840
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: up three spots and throwing a seventh deal. You know

841
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: that doesn't quite work that way. It's good for radio.

842
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: Human emotions here with guys who also have to sell

843
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: tickets in answer to their owner. Yeah, hey, what do

844
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: you mean we just traded this guy? What are you

845
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: talking about?

846
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: You got to go to Miami's owner and be like,

847
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: we just re up Tyreek an Waddle and you want

848
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: a deal?

849
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because so you're telling me that the season's over.

850
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: Is that you're telling because quarterback got hurt for a

851
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: little bit, Yeah, and now we can't compete. It's a

852
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: tough sell, right, we'll see there'll be a fun twenty

853
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: four hours.

854
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll see what happens here. Maybe something gets done,

855
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't, but it's not the end of the

856
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: world if it doesn't. Again, we won't have as much

857
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: to talk about, you know, because we've been talking wide

858
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: receiver stuff for a long time.

859
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: It won't break my heart not to No, the AUK

860
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: stuff was associating. Yeah, that's a part of my life.

861
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if there was a dude, it was an

862
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: obvious upgrade, all right, I get it. Oh yeah, but

863
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: just making a deal to make a deal, and.

864
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: A lot of it's just dried up weirdly, you know,

865
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: like the Kirk injury and things like that. Yeah, there's

866
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: been some bad timing luck involved in every step.

867
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah here two, Yeah, I agree. He is Matt Williamson.

868
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

869
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. When we come back, we're

870
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: going to go through the Steelers real quick, position by

871
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: position du a little first half grading here, all right,

872
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: we'll do that right after this.

873
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

874
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt as I mentioned, We're going to go

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Speaker 2: through the Steelers roster here real quick, position by position

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Speaker 2: and give a grade for each position. We'll start here offensively,

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. What do you got up till now?

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Speaker 3: Or how I feel this second?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 3: I think pickens numbers are not close to how good

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Speaker 3: he is. But I don't think it's a high end

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Speaker 3: receipt a room.

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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about how they've performed, not what you

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Speaker 2: think of the group as a whole.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was comparing them to thirty two other wide

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Speaker 3: receiver units. Is that not how you want.

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Speaker 2: To structure the What what you're if you were grading

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Speaker 2: this as a sole course by itself, not looking at

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Speaker 2: anything else. What what how they have? I would say

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Speaker 2: a bee.

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Speaker 3: I think they've gotten a lot out of that group,

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Speaker 3: especially lately, that I didn't quite see coming. I think

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Speaker 3: Pickens is developing into a star even more rapidly than

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say I mean, I'd say be minus. I

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Speaker 2: think they've gotten some above average plays from guys that

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean Scotty Miller had the one game

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Speaker 2: where he had two big catches that kind of helped

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Speaker 2: them win that game. Calvin Austin's made a couple of

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Speaker 2: big plays. Van Jefferson's made They've made some plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh the offensive line, but it's tough. It's

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Speaker 3: been ever changing. I think there's a lot of hope

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Speaker 3: there and I think it should be frasier coming back

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Speaker 3: is going to do a lot. I'm gonna say, B minus,

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Speaker 3: there's not always been holes and they've they've allowed a

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Speaker 3: fair amount of pressure over the course of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that, you know, for what

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Speaker 2: they've done and what they've done it with, it's been you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's an ever changing environment. I wish Jones was

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Speaker 3: further along. Yeah, that's the minus part of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the tight end position. B plus prewit's a dude. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's a I'm not saying it's Gronk and Hernandez, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not comparing to Washington. No, I think it's, you know,

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Speaker 3: an important player. I think Washington's turning into a real asset.

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Speaker 3: Friar Moose somewhat underutilized but high quality player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm more of a B minus there too.

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Speaker 2: I think there's more. I think it's kind of an

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Speaker 2: untapped m h.

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Speaker 3: I think the Washington stuff starting to get tapped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Again, I'm not comparing them to Mahomes and Allen, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I think they've gotten a lot out of

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Speaker 3: what they've invested. I mean a ton.

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Speaker 2: From that perspective, I give that an A minus. I

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Speaker 2: think they've gotten way more out of it than I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people certainly nationally expected to get

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Speaker 2: out of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of looking at it from the perspective of

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Speaker 3: if I Genie came out of the bottle on opening

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Speaker 3: day ready to kick it off and said, you'll get

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Speaker 3: this out of.

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Speaker 2: Your quarter fourteen touchdowns out of their court.

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Speaker 3: They give me that all day long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, running back.

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Speaker 3: Better than that. But I still feel like we haven't

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Speaker 3: even gotten a thing out of Warren, you know, like

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Speaker 3: I just know what he's capable of. I thought he

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Speaker 3: was amazing last year, but Naugy's been better than advertised,

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Speaker 3: I mean, better than it's ever been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think that's a that's a solid A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a really good day group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive line, last couple.

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Speaker 3: Of games have been great. Cam has been unbelievable. B minus.

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Speaker 3: Ogan job, he's a little hit and miss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and i'd like to I'd like to see Benton

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Speaker 2: take that next step. He's been good in flashes. I'd

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Speaker 2: like to see more better run consistencies. Yeah, really good prospect. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Outside linebacker eight A plus. It's hard to knock that group.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Herbig's really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've gotten you know, Jeremiah Moon's on

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Speaker 2: the field for like one play last week and he

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Speaker 2: hit gets a quarterback hit on Beanie Bishops, and it's

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Speaker 2: like they've gotten more than they got. Three stars YEA.

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Speaker 2: Inside linebacker B minus. I still still think that's kind

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Speaker 2: of working itself out. Queen's getting better and better. But

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Speaker 2: didn't burst on the scene there, Nickel. Run defense is

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Speaker 2: fact in on that. Roberts is a certain type of

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Speaker 2: player and a valuable one. I guess I would have

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Speaker 2: expected a little more from what I thought was a

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Speaker 2: loaded room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I still want to see more splash plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah about the big pick or you know something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: You have some force fumbles and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Cornerbacks B minus. I think Jackson's been a success, but

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Speaker 3: I think a little bit of recent history hasn't been

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Speaker 3: kind to him. Porter's really good. I know, Beaanie, Bishops

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Speaker 3: made big plays, but Nickel has not been a strength

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Speaker 3: and depth. They've gotten away with a little bit. I

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Speaker 3: haven't had to test it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit here and there, but not Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not a great deal.

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Speaker 3: But it's about to get reinforced in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Safety A minus. Yeah, I'm still getting questions. Why is

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Speaker 3: Mica having a terrible year. I mean, he's not having

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Speaker 3: a terrible year.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the top three safeties on the planet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he shows it every week. Elliott's been a massive success.

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Speaker 2: Elliot's been great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's not a needle mover, but like Edmunds,

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Speaker 3: falls in your lap and he's useful, you know, painting

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Speaker 3: for him.

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Speaker 2: Specialists, you would break those up, you want to go.

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Speaker 3: Special teams is in A plus.

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Speaker 2: Special teams overall is yeah, kickers in A plus. Putner's

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Speaker 2: a B, which I would take every day of the week.

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Speaker 2: B plus.

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Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean I thought Johnston was going to be

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Speaker 3: an A and when they he got hurt I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a d Yeah, certainly, isn't that.

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Speaker 2: Austin's been good with the punt returns even before, even

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Speaker 2: before he had the return for a touchdown, he's been

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Speaker 2: you know, he's averaging ten yards of a return before that.

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Speaker 3: Coverage units overall been good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the kick recurrent return coverage could be a little

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Speaker 2: bit better. They've given up some Yeah, it's not some

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Speaker 2: some returns here and there, but not the big one.

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Speaker 2: And they they really have a team we haven't.

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Speaker 3: Seen they haven't.

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Speaker 2: We haven't gotten to see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we opened the show talking about that and

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Speaker 3: come full circle here. Yeah, because like that. But maybe

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Speaker 3: that's best to you yet to come.

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Speaker 2: I think that's whether something that's going to change.

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Speaker 3: It's healthy and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, for a large chunks of this, you

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Speaker 2: haven't had your two best guys back there, the guys

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Speaker 2: who you've planned to have, Patterson and Warren.

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Speaker 3: You've had the Shamplings of the world and those type

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Speaker 3: of dudes, right, I mean, so I'm not worried about it. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm not seeing it at all. I think it will

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Speaker 3: be even I'll think it'll make it.

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Speaker 2: This way I'll be surprised if by the end of

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Speaker 2: this season they don't have one of the best kick

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Speaker 2: return units, return units, kick on kickoffs in the league.

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Speaker 3: So of like the four major unit punt, punt return,

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Speaker 3: kick kick return, and know by the way field goals.

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Speaker 3: I would say kickoff coverage has been their weakest or

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Speaker 3: kickoff return, but it's more of an incomplete grade. Kickoff

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Speaker 3: return is going to be a strength. Yeah, you know that.

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Speaker 2: I believe I've gotten seven chances seven right, just not

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Speaker 2: enough and it's not with the guys that you want

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 3: It with seven chances with backups basically in a new role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. But I mean overall, you have

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Speaker 2: to be pleased where they're at. I mean six and two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a B plus a minus start.

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Speaker 3: The season, first half of the season. Everyone listening would

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Speaker 3: take these results.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're looking at what

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff has done, we gave a couple of

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Speaker 2: a's here to the running backs and the quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 2: think the coaching has been really good. They've won with

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Speaker 2: two different quarterbacks, they've had multiple offensive lines.

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Speaker 3: Those offensive lines. Yeah, they're not the only team with injuries.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I mean, some guys have lost

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Speaker 3: catastrophic players, of course, and it hasn't been the most

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Speaker 3: brutal schedule. But boy, I'd love to play the Coultre

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Speaker 3: Dallas again. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying you should

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Speaker 3: be eight, No, but you could have been. Those are

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Speaker 3: winnable games and they're against winnable teams. I think you're

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Speaker 3: better than both those teams. Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes in the second half. But Matt,

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Speaker 2: that is going to do it for our show today.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow. Mike Tomin will hold his press

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Speaker 2: conference on Tuesday. We'll get some of my injury updates

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Speaker 2: on some of these guys. I expect a lot of

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Speaker 2: good news tomorrow from Mike Tomlin. But for my partner

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site running the

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller hotline, which we did not use today, and

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Speaker 2: for Tyler Hittmeyer making sure our video gets out there

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. I am Dale Lolly. We thank you for

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Speaker 2: listening to this edition of the Drive on the Steelers

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