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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, May twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,
Speaker 1: episode number eleven. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're live in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star
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Speaker 1: Can kind of stop talking about football for a little bit, break, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: see what I did? See what I did? Think? So
Speaker 1: you guys, I hope you guys enjoy this and we
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about today. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about OTAs. It's the second week for the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: a three week series of OTAs, and then that'll be
Speaker 1: there'll be a mini camp there in the following week,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get into a little talk on Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott and some of the challenges that he's dealing with
Speaker 1: right now and find out from the get these guys
Speaker 1: how concerned they are that this could turn into something
Speaker 1: that could affect the Cowboys on the field. But before
Speaker 1: we do that, I want to do want to talk
Speaker 1: about the OTAs um. Last week was week one of
Speaker 1: their OTAs, and I just kind of want to throw
Speaker 1: it out and get some general observations. I know you
Speaker 1: guys were out there every day during or at least
Speaker 1: Wednesday during practice, and so and so I wanted to
Speaker 1: get an idea from you guys of some of the
Speaker 1: things that you saw while you were out there, just
Speaker 1: to give our fans a little bit of a taste
Speaker 1: of what kind of stuff you can see while they
Speaker 1: have on shorts and T shirts. I'll start with Nick,
Speaker 1: I think that the Kellen Moore era here for the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I thought that was it's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how it plays out when you wait to
Speaker 1: the games come and really get to see what kind
Speaker 1: of plays that he's calling. But I think from the
Speaker 1: first indication here practice that you're gonna see some differences here.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see the way that the plays are and
Speaker 1: dat kind of alluded to this is the plays will
Speaker 1: be the same, how they get there will be different,
Speaker 1: and they'll dress it up. You'll see something a little
Speaker 1: bit more of these reverses. I think what you saw
Speaker 1: in the Rams game at the end of the way
Speaker 1: the Rams, what they were doing with a lot of
Speaker 1: their emotion jet sweeps, fake jet sweeps. You'll see some Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll see some of that. That was the first thing
Speaker 1: that kind of that kind of popped out to me,
Speaker 1: just seeing how these guys are moving around a little
Speaker 1: bit different before the play I agree with that, and
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely noticeable. You know, Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna overhaul the playbook, but I think you know,
Speaker 1: the personnel they used, the way they move it around
Speaker 1: pre snap motion. I know we've beaten into the ground,
Speaker 1: but it is something that we saw at practice last week.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's something Kellen Moore wants to implement.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to get too excited about
Speaker 1: it just because it's May and I want to you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like they did that stuff at training camp
Speaker 1: last year, and then it disappeared when the season started,
Speaker 1: which is you know, I don't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get just absolutely psyched about that until I kind of
Speaker 1: see it in a more real environment. For me, I
Speaker 1: just like seeing the lineup combinations at this time of year.
Speaker 1: You know, Connor Williams played left tackle last week, which
Speaker 1: you know, Tyrn Smith, Lyle Collins, and Cam Fleming all
Speaker 1: sat out of practice, So that's a pretty huge caveat.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he was tackles were gone, true,
Speaker 1: but there's eight other guys they could have asked to
Speaker 1: play tackle instead. It was really unexpected. That's something that
Speaker 1: you don't expect the Cowboys to show the media. We
Speaker 1: are not a big deal, but still it was surprising.
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal, but it's not not a deal,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, but he's there alarating
Speaker 1: left guard. He you know, and he you know, he
Speaker 1: was solid as a rookie but he wasn't amazing, so
Speaker 1: you would think he needs all the reps he can
Speaker 1: get at the position you want him to play. And
Speaker 1: then a month after they draft Connor mcgovernor and we're like,
Speaker 1: what does this mean for Connor Williams the future? They
Speaker 1: got him play and tackle and again I know all
Speaker 1: the other tackles were out, but they could have asked
Speaker 1: and undraft. I mean, Jake Campos was playing right tackle.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make this team, no offense, Jake. But
Speaker 1: they got a guy that's gonna make this team playing
Speaker 1: left tackle. Right. But this is the day at that point,
Speaker 1: it was day two of installation. That's what these OTAs are.
Speaker 1: They're installing the offense. So to put a guy out
Speaker 1: there and to say this is where you're going to play, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need some of these, we need someone to play
Speaker 1: left tackle, but this is where you install the offense.
Speaker 1: So if he's going to be your starting left guard,
Speaker 1: which which he will be, I still think that they
Speaker 1: use that time to get him some snaps at tack
Speaker 1: and then sorry, but the fun thing is you see
Speaker 1: that at practice and then you go into the locker
Speaker 1: room and you can Connor himself and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this are the first reps I've gotten at tackle since
Speaker 1: I was in college. So, like, you know, maybe it
Speaker 1: isn't a big deal if he's like, well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did this for scout team all the time last year,
Speaker 1: or you know I did this at times in the
Speaker 1: spring last year too, Like, no, this is the first
Speaker 1: time they've ever asked him to do that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't care who was sitting out. That's significant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that. I guess the way I looked at
Speaker 1: it when what I heard about it was I think
Speaker 1: there's kind of a now component to that and a
Speaker 1: future component to that. I think the now component is
Speaker 1: that of all the guys you said they could have
Speaker 1: asked to do it, Like you said, those guys are
Speaker 1: not going to be here. So the likelihood that Connor
Speaker 1: has to play tackle as opposed to any of those
Speaker 1: other guys is still much higher that Connor will get
Speaker 1: the opportunity than they will in the event they lost
Speaker 1: all those tackles. Right, So, if you're going to throw
Speaker 1: somebody out there to learn the position R plus, somebody
Speaker 1: out there's going to actually be here now. But you
Speaker 1: don't do that unless in the future you're thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: it would be nice to get him some reps because
Speaker 1: there may be an opportunity next year possibly for him
Speaker 1: to play some tackles. So I think I think it
Speaker 1: says something about maybe what they think for the future
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't make a whole big difference right now. But
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are surprised by the
Speaker 1: fact that in the future they think he could possibly
Speaker 1: play tackle for them. But again, no one's surprised and
Speaker 1: surprised that they admit that he's been saying it for
Speaker 1: a year, that that don't be surprised when this happens,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna tell you, oh, we're all along
Speaker 1: and here it is. This is happening. Is exactly what
Speaker 1: Dave said a year ago. Maybe not a year ago,
Speaker 1: but like six months ago. Yeah, and what was that?
Speaker 1: What was that? I didn't hear the other thing? You know,
Speaker 1: don't don't get me in trouble because we only get
Speaker 1: to watch one of these, and I did not. I
Speaker 1: was not at Tuesday or Thursday's ota. Jerry Stephen, if
Speaker 1: you happen to be listening, how would you ever see
Speaker 1: those We only see Wednesday exactly. Yeah, but they but
Speaker 1: so the point there's two practices that they The media
Speaker 1: is not there, so they had two practices to work
Speaker 1: Connor at tackle if they didn't want people to know,
Speaker 1: and they were like, ah, whatever, we'll just will play
Speaker 1: him here on Wednesday. Who cares. So I do think
Speaker 1: that is somewhat significant. I'm kind of glad that they
Speaker 1: did that, though, you know, you're right, most of the
Speaker 1: times in this organization, typically that's the kind of thing
Speaker 1: they don't want to put out there because it writes
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. But it is the thing that
Speaker 1: if you if you're thinking about it, why not give him,
Speaker 1: especially when all those other guys are out, Why not
Speaker 1: give him a shot to kind of just see a
Speaker 1: little bit. Let him have an opportunity to see what
Speaker 1: it's like, to start getting familiar with what his responsibilities are.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with that, because you
Speaker 1: also can see, hey, do we think this is actually
Speaker 1: going to work? And if any opportunity you get to
Speaker 1: see if it's going to work before you get to
Speaker 1: the chance where you have to throw him in, it's
Speaker 1: a good thing. I would love it if he is,
Speaker 1: you know, and Tyron, you know, Tyron is going to
Speaker 1: have that days from now until the end of time
Speaker 1: now and at training camp. You know, he's missed at
Speaker 1: least two games each of the last three years, so
Speaker 1: it's a decent bed. He'll miss time in the regular
Speaker 1: season too. I hope he doesn't, but history indicates that
Speaker 1: he might, so I hope this continues. I hope this
Speaker 1: isn't just a may thing. You know. I hope if
Speaker 1: Tyrant is off on a Thursday at training camp, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope that they find a way for that to
Speaker 1: mean Connor can play some tackle. But if Cam is health,
Speaker 1: do you kind of want Cam to have those opportunities
Speaker 1: because once he gets the season, he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: guys out there. If Tyrannt's out there, he gonna be
Speaker 1: the second team left tackle or something. You know. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I think it would be smart just give
Speaker 1: him some opportunity. Yep. I see. All right, Let's let's
Speaker 1: get some more observations. What were some other things that
Speaker 1: you guys may have noticed. Ambersame thing that you that
Speaker 1: stood out to you well, by default, the way these
Speaker 1: practices are structure, Usually the wide receiver and like the
Speaker 1: running backs are the ones who stand who tend to
Speaker 1: stand out. The most one that com my eye was
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, who obviously he's a guy that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about after since the draft, but I even know
Speaker 1: his number at the moment. And then I saw a
Speaker 1: guy I'm like, oh wow, who's that? And Oh that's Tony.
Speaker 1: So it's noticeable the kind of speed that he has,
Speaker 1: the way he breaks. I like his awareness on the field. Again,
Speaker 1: these are light practices, but still just being able to
Speaker 1: see a guy stand out among the crowd, it was still.
Speaker 1: It was still good. Another thing that I was talking
Speaker 1: to to Dave and Brian that I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 1: was the kicker, and like the realization of man, they
Speaker 1: have not brought a kicker in yet. Probably will happen
Speaker 1: at training camp. But that's another thing that we tend
Speaker 1: to forget a little bit. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: they should. I asked Nick this question and it was
Speaker 1: kind of tongue in cheek during practice last week. Um,
Speaker 1: I said, what's the what's the chances that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: midseason have a different kicker than they have right now?
Speaker 1: And we both kind of just looked at each other
Speaker 1: and I don't think either one of us were really
Speaker 1: convicted that they'll have the same kicker because he was
Speaker 1: so inconsistent last year. We know he has a big leg,
Speaker 1: but there was some misses that were just inexplicable. I mean,
Speaker 1: how many bad games does who's the best kicker in
Speaker 1: the league, got Tucker Tucker? How many or Askowski? Okay,
Speaker 1: how many bad games this Tucker have before he's cut?
Speaker 1: Depends on how bad they, you know, like he missed,
Speaker 1: he missed over time. You're gonna have to have to
Speaker 1: have have a season of just like unexplainable things that
Speaker 1: just happens. So seven or eight, I mean he's the
Speaker 1: best of all time. Seven or eight. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is he doesn't have it anymore. How many bad
Speaker 1: games does Maha have? Two in a two in a
Speaker 1: short span or no, three in a short span of time,
Speaker 1: like three in a month, three you know, three and
Speaker 1: five weeks. I mean, I also wonder what you call
Speaker 1: a bad game, because there was your games when he
Speaker 1: came back and he made some kicks, some kicks, but
Speaker 1: then he missed some early whereas last twenty one to
Speaker 1: twenty in to the Giants in Week one, he missed
Speaker 1: an extra point in the second quarter and a forty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal. So that's a story. I thought.
Speaker 1: I was like that, didn't know. No, that's week one.
Speaker 1: And then week two he misses a thirty seven yarder
Speaker 1: off the post in the press box. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: available kicks out of Yeah, everyone start google about it.
Speaker 1: So I three seems like a lot if he if
Speaker 1: he started the season with two bad games, he's cut.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's it's been a while since
Speaker 1: y'all were probably at this stage in your life, but like,
Speaker 1: did you ever have like a beater car, like just
Speaker 1: a beater car, like a piece of crap car, Like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and like it was a piece of crap,
Speaker 1: but you loved it, you know, and like other people
Speaker 1: might be like, man, is that what you're saying, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying a piece of crap? Well yeah, what are
Speaker 1: we saying? I'm just crap? But was him? You know,
Speaker 1: you probably loved that car a lot more than like
Speaker 1: your friends did. Right, Like you had say so he's
Speaker 1: like it's gonna get me where I need to go sometimes, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean there, you know that was the point of
Speaker 1: but the point sometimes you loved it more than other
Speaker 1: people did. And I don't want to call Brett Maher
Speaker 1: a piece of crap, that's not my point, but I
Speaker 1: think that certainly would It sounded like cowboys like him
Speaker 1: and feel loyal to him a lot more than people
Speaker 1: outside the organization. Okay, but that's why why would they
Speaker 1: Why this is not then the car that's taking them
Speaker 1: to the bailey exactly If they don't have loyalty to him,
Speaker 1: how what makes you think they got loyalty to Mahs?
Speaker 1: Just all signs point toward it, like they I mean,
Speaker 1: a guy would be here right now, like it's and
Speaker 1: this is in my six years of doing this, Like
Speaker 1: they don't just add a kicker a week before they leave,
Speaker 1: like they do that right after the draft, like he
Speaker 1: would be here being part of this. So your thought
Speaker 1: is because there's nobody here, you think in their minds,
Speaker 1: Maher is their guy. They are sold here to Nix
Speaker 1: point and to your point too, like only until he's not,
Speaker 1: Like you know, they got da a week. Their attitude
Speaker 1: going into training camp is not like we need to
Speaker 1: do something about this, But it just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: That is a position that we talked about or was
Speaker 1: talked about last year. Why would you not add some
Speaker 1: kind of competition just for the sake of it. Why? Honestly, though,
Speaker 1: I really believe, especially a kicker that's been in the
Speaker 1: CFL and is bounced around like he has, I think
Speaker 1: those kickers think that they're competing all the time. They
Speaker 1: I mean, even even if they're not, even if there's
Speaker 1: not another kicker, they know that if they miss in practice,
Speaker 1: that that will mcclay's got fourteen kickers on a list
Speaker 1: that he knows who can get it's a good point.
Speaker 1: So I think I think they all, Yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to look her over your shoulder and see another
Speaker 1: guy he made it in practice and all the teammates,
Speaker 1: but they know if they struggled that there there's a
Speaker 1: hook there. Yeah. That's probably more than any other position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't easily replaceable, but it's it seems like they're
Speaker 1: easily replaceable from the standpoint that you can always get
Speaker 1: him out and bring in another guy. Like there's not
Speaker 1: there's not, Like you said, the best kicker in the
Speaker 1: league right now, if he has half a season worth
Speaker 1: of bad kicks, he's probably gonna think about the kicker
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. He for a long time was the was
Speaker 1: the best guy in the league. What's his name, Walsh,
Speaker 1: lay Blair Walsh, he was he wasna. He was a
Speaker 1: money kicker for them for a long time, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, in one season, it just started going.
Speaker 1: It started the end of one season and then it
Speaker 1: carried into the next season and then that way. Are
Speaker 1: you talking about Dan Bailey again, because that's it's the
Speaker 1: anything example. But my point is that's kickers in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You have it until you don't. Yeah, it's the story
Speaker 1: of every kicker except for like Vinetary and Um Janikowski. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like those are the only two that have really defied that.
Speaker 1: And Janikowski still, I mean, he didn't retire with his
Speaker 1: first team, so yeah, Nary, Well he left on purpose
Speaker 1: though he didn't get cut right, Yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: better offer. I don't remember how it felt like he
Speaker 1: had a stretch there where he kinda he left in
Speaker 1: free agency to join the Colts and it was like
Speaker 1: that's the first time that's like, oh my god, we
Speaker 1: got this kicker. Like that. Doesn't he didn't retire this year,
Speaker 1: did he? No, he's still thinking, still going first ballot
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Don't at me do not at all. Right,
Speaker 1: let's let's take our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Ezekiel Elliott. He's found himself
Speaker 1: in a little bit of a issue here with the league.
Speaker 1: Reports are that maybe the league's gonna take a look
Speaker 1: at an incident that happened in Las Vegas. I want
Speaker 1: to ask these guys, how concerned are you that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys may be facing some problems with the situation. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll come right back this Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: is the second segment of The Break Life in the
Speaker 1: s WBC Morgan Studios. At the start, we're talking some
Speaker 1: Cowboys football here and I'm going to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about Ezekiel Elliott. Um. What was this? I think
Speaker 1: the report came out was that last week when the
Speaker 1: port report came out. Yeah, Um, and uh, basically there
Speaker 1: was video of an incident that happened in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: while Ezekiel was there. And on the video, UM, there
Speaker 1: was I don't know if it was a It certainly
Speaker 1: wasn't a physical altercation. I don't think there was kind
Speaker 1: of a little bowing up between him and another guy
Speaker 1: and I guess that was security. Um and the incident.
Speaker 1: Police handcuffed him, but he was not arrested, supposedly just
Speaker 1: detained and and nothing ever came of it. From a
Speaker 1: legal standpoint. Um, but here's the issue. We all go
Speaker 1: back to twenty seventeen, UM and when when Zeke had
Speaker 1: the issue with the NFL regarding uh the issue of
Speaker 1: or the allegation around domestic violence. The NFL had an
Speaker 1: investigation that they did. They had a person who was
Speaker 1: charged with doing the investigation. That person came to the
Speaker 1: conclusion that there should be no punishment because there were
Speaker 1: too many inconsistencies in the whole story. Despite that, Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell and the people in charge of the NFL made
Speaker 1: the decision that Zeke should face a six game suspension.
Speaker 1: He ultimately served that suspension. That all being said, and
Speaker 1: knowing that because of that, he now is in a
Speaker 1: situation where he's under increased scrutiny from the NFL and
Speaker 1: Indian fraction is reviewable by the NFL and can lead
Speaker 1: to punishment. How concerned are you, guys, that this particular situation,
Speaker 1: even though he was not arrested, can end up being
Speaker 1: a problem for Zeke and for the Cowboys. I'm not concerned.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be suspended. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think it. That's not a penalty on the football field.
Speaker 1: What he did. It's not a penalty. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can call that any kind of incident. I mean, ye,
Speaker 1: it's an incident because reported on tape, but you can't
Speaker 1: get suspended for that. I just don't believe it. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that's going to happen. One thing to note is,
Speaker 1: and I was reading the report yesterday, a journalist for
Speaker 1: for Yahoo Sports, Charles Robinson, was breaking down the kind
Speaker 1: of the things that the league told Zeke at the
Speaker 1: time in twenty seventeen after he had been suspended, and
Speaker 1: one of the things that stuck out to me was
Speaker 1: it said, it is not just we're not just worried
Speaker 1: about violence. We're worried about even threats of violence. And
Speaker 1: that's what made me start to think, can the league
Speaker 1: again in a situation well we know the league when
Speaker 1: it comes to Zeke, it seems like they just got
Speaker 1: a thing for him. And that being said, do they
Speaker 1: construe what they saw there on that tape as a
Speaker 1: threat of violence that could then once again give them
Speaker 1: license because again, they don't need license from anybody else
Speaker 1: other than themselves to say we think there's an infraction
Speaker 1: here and because of that, we're giving you a suspension.
Speaker 1: I mean, all due respect to your opinion, Like I
Speaker 1: I know how you can sit here and just say no,
Speaker 1: there's no chance. I didn't say there's no chance. You
Speaker 1: said you don't think it'll happen. That's two different things.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance because you have that, you
Speaker 1: have the guy in the office up there. That right,
Speaker 1: and that's it should be. It should be concerning and
Speaker 1: like that, that should hang over everything else, and it
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it, you know, Like what happened
Speaker 1: with the security guard. I mean, come on, get out
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah, it wasn't right, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: Mino Genobli was running in security now. But seriously, at
Speaker 1: the same time, focus should not flop. At the same time,
Speaker 1: he's Ezekiel Elliott. It sucks for him, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't do anything wrong that the video showed,
Speaker 1: you know, the pushing the guy over. It's not a
Speaker 1: great look. Seemed like he was arguing with who I
Speaker 1: think was his girlfriend thee Again, the guy fell on
Speaker 1: the ground and it's not fair. But Ezekieli is going
Speaker 1: to be held to a different standard. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't know what y'all want me to say yeah, And
Speaker 1: there's one one guy that is really ultimately in charge
Speaker 1: of making that decision. And I think Charles Robinson made
Speaker 1: a really good point that maybe people don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that Jerry Jones does the Cowboys
Speaker 1: any favors. When he comes out and says like it's
Speaker 1: not a big deal like this, you know he's in
Speaker 1: good standing. He'll be okay because he said that last time.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if, like maybe Roger Goodell is kind
Speaker 1: of like, well, you don't, Jerry, like I'll make these
Speaker 1: decisions like you don't ultimately decide what happens here. I'm
Speaker 1: the commissioner of the league. I know you're one of
Speaker 1: the most powerful owners in the league, but this is
Speaker 1: still up to me. And I think I think stuff
Speaker 1: like that matters. So if I had to bet on
Speaker 1: it today, it doesn't seem like it should merit to suspension.
Speaker 1: But I can't in full confidence say it won't. I mean,
Speaker 1: as I said, I think we said this last week.
Speaker 1: The guy who's not going to do well in this
Speaker 1: scenario is Tyrone Crawford, because I don't think that Zeke
Speaker 1: will get a suspension based off of that. But I
Speaker 1: think Tyron Crawford will be what it's a similar you
Speaker 1: think it'll be kind of I mean, if you can
Speaker 1: sit here and say, well, you know, the guy flopped
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, then yeah, well looking not a
Speaker 1: whole lot of flopping going on in the video from
Speaker 1: Panama City. There's a lot of I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a little more of a scary situation. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's a great point, you know what I wonder here?
Speaker 1: And I think you guys both are gonna say like
Speaker 1: a big hell note to this. But you know, and
Speaker 1: and as a referee, if you if you throw a
Speaker 1: past interference penaltee and it was questionable and everyone's going crazy,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get a makeup call the next play,
Speaker 1: next few plays is does he gonna get a makeup call? Here?
Speaker 1: I think Roger Goodell thinks that he did something wrong
Speaker 1: because it only went to like nineteen higher courts. No,
Speaker 1: he had, he had every opportunity to make to make
Speaker 1: the decision that we all thought should have been made
Speaker 1: um And and that's because he had. He had And
Speaker 1: I really think the league in a lot of instances
Speaker 1: makes decisis based upon public perception and having cover for
Speaker 1: what they decide. I think in this instance, because they
Speaker 1: had a private investigation, because the result of that private
Speaker 1: investigation was there should be no penalty. He had more
Speaker 1: than ample. And this is an independent person. This is
Speaker 1: not a person who is just like bound to the league.
Speaker 1: This is an independent person that made this a recommendation
Speaker 1: and said nothing should happen. He had sufficient cover to
Speaker 1: be able to say, okay, either nothing or just because
Speaker 1: we had to go through all this, we're going to
Speaker 1: give you a game or two games. Right. The fact
Speaker 1: is they gave him six games. That says to me,
Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell doesn't really care about that what you're saying, like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't really care about trying to make up for anything.
Speaker 1: He ultimately was like, I think that this guy's a
Speaker 1: bad guy and I'm going to punish him. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: after that happened, you know, all cowboy fans or other
Speaker 1: media members whatever, they you can find a similar situation.
Speaker 1: And it was the kicker for the Giants. I forgot
Speaker 1: his name, Brown, Josh Brown, maybe Brown right, Okay, that
Speaker 1: was a lot of people were saying, hey, what about
Speaker 1: this so and it was Blake, right, So my point
Speaker 1: is is that if he gets suspended again for this,
Speaker 1: how many forearm shoves that have been that have taken
Speaker 1: place somebody on the camera, some you know incident. I
Speaker 1: mean the guy that's signed with the Raiders. I mean,
Speaker 1: he seems like he's got a few things as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying he's gonna at some point Goodell's
Speaker 1: gonna open himself up too. And he already has a
Speaker 1: bunch of criticism. If you if you do this again,
Speaker 1: it could be really bad. I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't doesn't seem he cares about criticism because
Speaker 1: he's criticism and he keeps making these kinds of decisions.
Speaker 1: Not only does he not care about criticism, Like if
Speaker 1: the NFL cared about congruents and their decisions, then we
Speaker 1: would be I mean like they do whatever they want
Speaker 1: with a very little video. To me, the video hurts
Speaker 1: that case because what he was going off of was, well,
Speaker 1: look at this report. We have we know things that
Speaker 1: are happening. What two years ago? We know things. There's
Speaker 1: things in this report you don't even know about. See,
Speaker 1: that's the stuff we would hear, is that there's a
Speaker 1: lot to it. This, we all see it. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna see anything that we didn't see unless there's another
Speaker 1: videos that services. So I just you can hide behind
Speaker 1: reports in forty seven page reports that you don't know
Speaker 1: all the details that we know. But in this particular case,
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's gonna be anything extra to it.
Speaker 1: I guess my whole thing with this is just that
Speaker 1: I don't think that this, like Dave was saying, I
Speaker 1: think this is all over the map. There is no
Speaker 1: real rhyme or reason that we can perceive in a
Speaker 1: lot of the decisions. And because of that, you have
Speaker 1: a situation here where it for me, if I'm if
Speaker 1: I'm thinking just as a Cowboys fan, I would be
Speaker 1: concerned because this is a wildcard and I know that
Speaker 1: they've suspended Zeke for sick they gave him a maximum
Speaker 1: penalty for what many people thought should not have been
Speaker 1: a penalty, And this is a situation where he's on camera,
Speaker 1: and again, the league and Roger Goodell aren't necessarily concerned
Speaker 1: about whether you're breaking the law. They're concerned about how
Speaker 1: it reflects on the NFL, how much time is being
Speaker 1: spent on it, being talked about on talk radio and
Speaker 1: being shown on television, and how much does that video
Speaker 1: gets shown from TMZ across all the masses. That affects
Speaker 1: what people think of NFL and NFL players. That's what
Speaker 1: they're way more concerned about, and that for me would
Speaker 1: be a bit concerning. I will say it seems like
Speaker 1: this video it seems like it's kind of faded into
Speaker 1: the backdrop, like we're not I mean, obviously we are
Speaker 1: a cowboys talk show. Of course we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about it, but it doesn't seem like this is dominating
Speaker 1: the first takes of the world anymore, you know. Like
Speaker 1: so in that regard, maybe it's not the article come
Speaker 1: out yesterday. Yeah, this week, I mean, the holiday kind
Speaker 1: of messed me up, but definitely this week. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, I wouldn't be surprised by anything, which and
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's the lesson that I took from
Speaker 1: the last one is I was pretty dead sure that
Speaker 1: that was going to blow over and it turned into
Speaker 1: a six game suspension, which I don't think obviously that
Speaker 1: would really be stunning. But I don't know. And if
Speaker 1: I had to guess this will play out like we
Speaker 1: won't probably won't hear anything about Zeke or Tyrone until August.
Speaker 1: If I had to, if I had to guess, does
Speaker 1: this at all change or how does it, if if so,
Speaker 1: change your opinion of Zeke and his level of maturity.
Speaker 1: Was there anything in that video that changed your thoughts? There? No,
Speaker 1: And I think I'm really really glad he did not
Speaker 1: even touch the girl, to even grab her, like he
Speaker 1: would just stand in front of her and like block
Speaker 1: her just by him standing, because howd he just grabbed
Speaker 1: her arm or something that would Yeah, and that would
Speaker 1: have been a total mess. So I'm really glad, and
Speaker 1: I we I think we can all agree on this.
Speaker 1: We I've seen a tremendous difference from Ezekiel Elia two
Speaker 1: years ago to the one that he is now. So
Speaker 1: I don't think this changes anything. It does for me
Speaker 1: because um not for one, because of the camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, because of the camp he had the next day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you are nine hours removed from being on
Speaker 1: the field with when you know, from Dallas to Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: You're in Las Vegas nine hours from now, you're going
Speaker 1: to be uh in Dallas with these kids that that
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for you. To be there
Speaker 1: and to give them your best, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: superhuman on the field, and so maybe he was absolutely
Speaker 1: at his best at noon. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just is that really fair though, because okay, I like
Speaker 1: to put it in the context of myself when I
Speaker 1: was a young man and out having a good time,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't think necessarily me going out tonight and
Speaker 1: having a great time had anything to do with my
Speaker 1: ability to get up the next day and do my job.
Speaker 1: And I know you and I, like we were young,
Speaker 1: you could actually do it. I can't train again. We
Speaker 1: go out, we'd have a great time at night, and
Speaker 1: the next morning we were up and at you know,
Speaker 1: up and at him at seven thirty eight o'clock, ready
Speaker 1: to do work. Right. I think there's an important difference there,
Speaker 1: And I would never throw stones. I said this on
Speaker 1: the show last week, like I've been to work hungover
Speaker 1: so many times in my career. Not this week, not
Speaker 1: this week? Really, Yeah, I know it's shocking, isn't It's
Speaker 1: it's absolutely shock were doing his review? Yeah we need
Speaker 1: Actually it's maybe yeah, but there's a difference between you know,
Speaker 1: if you're rolling out of bed to go cover training
Speaker 1: camp practice and that's your job, and maybe you had
Speaker 1: a few too many. Or like if we were doing
Speaker 1: a live episode of The Break and people were paying
Speaker 1: to watch us and we were going to do a
Speaker 1: meet and greet, like, Hey, nice to meet you, Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming to our show, Hopefully I wouldn't come to
Speaker 1: that with a terrible hangover, you know, like people are
Speaker 1: paying for your services. Now, let's go back to when
Speaker 1: we were in London and we were just kind of
Speaker 1: hanging out and we were enjoying London, and we had
Speaker 1: shows every single day, and there were people that would
Speaker 1: never ever get a chance to interact with us, and
Speaker 1: we were we giving them our best every every day.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's one of the best weeks of my life. Right.
Speaker 1: But but we were enjoying the nightlife though, weren't we. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those shows were Okay, hold on, here's the here's the
Speaker 1: difference between that because the people that we were working
Speaker 1: for were the ones that were passing all the drink.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, And we don't know if he was drum right,
Speaker 1: We know, we don't. We don't. Okay point two. True,
Speaker 1: It's just that it would be the same if it
Speaker 1: like if okay three o'clock in the morning. We've all
Speaker 1: done it on a road trip. We've been in a
Speaker 1: hotel abby at three o'clock in the morning, because we
Speaker 1: don't have the same job to do. If we saw
Speaker 1: a player doing that, you know, obviously that is his craft,
Speaker 1: that's his profession. You'd like to think that he's not
Speaker 1: going to break curfew. But if for that moment here
Speaker 1: in May, that is his job, he's he paid pretty
Speaker 1: good money to do that and be available. But so
Speaker 1: the whole question you asked me was does it Does
Speaker 1: it change my perception for him and his maturity a
Speaker 1: little bit? Because you opened yourself up for it to
Speaker 1: be there, and at three o'clock in the morning, you're
Speaker 1: you're out, you're cutting it close, and I just think
Speaker 1: it's that's not a good look for me. And that's
Speaker 1: the part I get when you say, just from a
Speaker 1: standpoint of being self aware, understanding the environment, understanding the
Speaker 1: people that are around you, understanding the cameras are there,
Speaker 1: understanding that it's probably not what's is saying, nothing good
Speaker 1: happens after three o'clock and after two o'clock and the
Speaker 1: more whatever it is. I mean, yes, that's a matter
Speaker 1: of maturity and maybe he's not at that point yet,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that. I think that because he
Speaker 1: was out having a good time and he had something
Speaker 1: to do the next day, that necessarily, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: changes my belief in his maturity. It doesn't really affect
Speaker 1: my opinion just because it's it all fits with it
Speaker 1: all fits comfortably within the picture of who he is.
Speaker 1: And I do think he's grown up since he got
Speaker 1: in the league, but at the same time, he's still
Speaker 1: he's still similar to me in the sense that, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like we ride this roller coaster, where like
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen he was the devil and that was
Speaker 1: never true. And then I don't want to point fingers,
Speaker 1: but in twenty nineteen, you can. People are trying to
Speaker 1: push this narrative that he's like Saint Zeke now, like,
Speaker 1: look at the amazing offseason Zeke is having. He's he's
Speaker 1: feeding the homeless and doing like he's just the most wonderful.
Speaker 1: That's not true either, Like neither one of these things
Speaker 1: is true. He's a twenty three year old kid who
Speaker 1: has a big heart, loves to make kind gestures for people,
Speaker 1: is an amazing Probably was that guy back in said
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, from the standpoint of just be having a
Speaker 1: big heart. Yeah, big heart. Teammates love him. He does
Speaker 1: nice things in the community. He's also twenty three and
Speaker 1: likes the nightlife. That is well documented going back to which,
Speaker 1: by the way, most twenty three year course love the nightlife,
Speaker 1: of course, loves you know, loves to have a good time.
Speaker 1: He can be kind of moody, He can be kind
Speaker 1: of grumpy. He can also be like the happiest dude
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It just kind of depends on when
Speaker 1: you catch him, like, are you describing him? Are you hey?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we get along. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: all fits within the picture of who he like. He's
Speaker 1: a pretty normal twenty three year old guy who happens
Speaker 1: to be awesome in football and rich and rich rich
Speaker 1: as hell. I think he needs I think he needs
Speaker 1: to be a little more perceptive of just how big
Speaker 1: the spotlight on him is. But you know that'll come
Speaker 1: in time, hopefully. Some of the clips I saw from
Speaker 1: the camp, he seemed pretty good interacting with the kids.
Speaker 1: That's where I would have a problem with it. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it right now. But I
Speaker 1: would have had he been like just grumpy and just
Speaker 1: standing there and not really interacting with the kids. I
Speaker 1: think he was able to provide what the kids wanted
Speaker 1: and provide that experience for them. So it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: I'll point the finger back at myself because I do
Speaker 1: this with Brian all the time. Brian brought us, loves
Speaker 1: to give me crap about like when I come in
Speaker 1: or what time I leave, or what I was doing
Speaker 1: the night before, And I'm like, if I'm here and
Speaker 1: I do my job and I do it well, why
Speaker 1: who's business? Like? Why your business? Yeah? And I think
Speaker 1: that's in everybody's life. I think the point is if
Speaker 1: you can manage it like I don't. I don't regulate
Speaker 1: your your employers should not regulate what you do in
Speaker 1: your off time. But when you get to the office,
Speaker 1: there have been better not be lingering effects of what
Speaker 1: you did in your off time. So as long as
Speaker 1: you can manner and there was though, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's still on his wrist. He's probably still had the hint,
Speaker 1: you know, but who cares? But that doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: he who cares? What do you mean if he's still capable?
Speaker 1: If He's still capable of giving those kids a great experience.
Speaker 1: He was not detained from the standpoint of still being
Speaker 1: there when he was supposed to be at the camp.
Speaker 1: So if he shows up at the camp and he
Speaker 1: gives those kids his best, I don't think whatever happened
Speaker 1: last night really matters. Okay, So the twice So the
Speaker 1: question is do you think that you have any issues
Speaker 1: with his maturity? And I say yeah, because because right
Speaker 1: before the day of the camp, you know, and I
Speaker 1: have kids, You have kids in the camp leader sitting
Speaker 1: there and he's like, well, you know, nine hours ago
Speaker 1: he was in hand cuffs in Las Vegas. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was his fault, maybe it wasn't, but he was still there.
Speaker 1: Like you're still going to raise questions and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the best decision. Wasn't the best decision? And
Speaker 1: does he where does he fly? Does he fly his
Speaker 1: own jet or does he does he do commercial because
Speaker 1: I know Shannon spent twelve hours in Vegas. Yeah, Shannon
Speaker 1: grows twelve hours back and forth, five hour delays here
Speaker 1: and there. Even if you're not in handcuffs, even if
Speaker 1: you're just doing great community work, that's cutting it close.
Speaker 1: For a camp that you need to be there for.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. So which so everything I just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: like if you can handle it, good for you, this
Speaker 1: is America, all that good stuff. But like the truly
Speaker 1: mature decision might have been, like, hey, I got this
Speaker 1: thing on Sunday, I'll probably just kick it in Dallas
Speaker 1: and Vegas will be there another weekend. And when I
Speaker 1: was twenty three years old, I wasn't mature either. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I am right now. So the
Speaker 1: question about being mature, like does that really even matter? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that mature. But I think he's
Speaker 1: one hell of a football player. He's still learning, he
Speaker 1: has at heart. That the same guy that's paying for
Speaker 1: a funeral for a kid that was was he murdered
Speaker 1: in the same shot shot. Yeah, I mean it's a
Speaker 1: terrible story. Uh you know that that's great, But that
Speaker 1: guy still it's okay that he likes to go out
Speaker 1: and have fun. Everyone does. I just don't. Maybe what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is, I don't even know if
Speaker 1: it matters that much. There's guys, I mean, Michael Vert
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest players the Cowboys history. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was mature at the end of
Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, it happens like that. They're not paying
Speaker 1: for him to be They're paying for him to be
Speaker 1: a great football player. And that's what he is, and
Speaker 1: you know he's going to have some issues that way,
Speaker 1: he sticks to what he is. Part of what they're
Speaker 1: paying for is the confidence that he will be available
Speaker 1: to them. That's true and that and that's I guess
Speaker 1: where I come down on this is as of right now,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big enough deal. I said.
Speaker 1: I did a segment with Brian brought Us on TV
Speaker 1: last week where I was like, if the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: thrown off by this, then like, how well do they
Speaker 1: really know their players? Because, like I said, it fits
Speaker 1: within the narrative of what we know about Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: So they should be the last people that are surprised.
Speaker 1: They might be disappointed, they shouldn't be surprised by it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you could be a quality person and still like
Speaker 1: you kick it, Yeah, absolutely, And kicking it might mean
Speaker 1: you might be the wrong place at the wrong time,
Speaker 1: So you might get into bad situations because you're not
Speaker 1: because you're worth somewhere that at that time and night,
Speaker 1: bad things can tend to happen. But there's a point
Speaker 1: in that video where you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: You don't have to load your shoulder on the guy
Speaker 1: and even make it, you don't have to go that far.
Speaker 1: I think it's a serious thing. No, I don't, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he could have walked away from that.
Speaker 1: But that's also where I do think that my opinion
Speaker 1: may have changed to the better because I agree with Amber.
Speaker 1: I think there were moments in that video when it
Speaker 1: could have gotten a lot worse. And I think I
Speaker 1: think there was a certain level of restraint that he
Speaker 1: had in that video in a couple different situations where
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that a few years ago he would
Speaker 1: have had that same level of restraint. Now, is he
Speaker 1: where he needs to be? As a forty seight year
Speaker 1: old man, I'd probably make much different decision and then
Speaker 1: he would have made. But I'm also forty six years old,
Speaker 1: and and that's a matter of getting older and being
Speaker 1: more mature. He can be more mature now than he
Speaker 1: was back then. That doesn't mean he's fully developed yet,
Speaker 1: right fair. I mean that's that's fair that you said
Speaker 1: that I'm over this conversation. It's I mean, you can,
Speaker 1: like we've been arguing, you can argue both sides, and
Speaker 1: it's just whatever it is, what it is. We'll see
Speaker 1: what the league does, if they do something. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime, it's which it's a tough conversation to have
Speaker 1: because it's it's not a black and white issue that
Speaker 1: you can just come down with a firm take on, right,
Speaker 1: And that's what so many people want to do and
Speaker 1: I refuse to. But yeah, so I mean like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, just kind of play it by ear. It
Speaker 1: doesn't really drastically change my opinion of what I already
Speaker 1: knew about Ezekiel Elliott. It's something that he needs to
Speaker 1: continue to work on, and I'd be surprised if he
Speaker 1: got suspended, but you can never say for sure. So
Speaker 1: let's take that to the other stream. Then we only
Speaker 1: have a few more minutes here because we got to
Speaker 1: leave a little early today at ten thirty for Coach
Speaker 1: Garret's press conference. We have to say, see, no, we'll
Speaker 1: get to that next week. But um, let's assume for
Speaker 1: a second at the Cowboy that the Cowboys do face
Speaker 1: a potential suspension with Zeke. How comfortable do you fill
Speaker 1: with the running back position right now, knowing that there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of experience there. You would have to
Speaker 1: let's assume that it's it happens at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season and there are some games that he has
Speaker 1: to miss. How comfortable do you feel that rookies can
Speaker 1: immediately step in and be able to give you what
Speaker 1: you need for those games and not going to replace Zeke?
Speaker 1: They're not good enough to replace Zeke. Gonna know who
Speaker 1: in the league would um it's the one position where
Speaker 1: guys can plug in and be more effective than others.
Speaker 1: And I you're drafted too, They're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you go. Maybe they would
Speaker 1: go and sign someone that's out there, but I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Tony Pollard, Mike Weber that the fact that
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence you'll have to rely on your
Speaker 1: old line and hope that they can do give the
Speaker 1: running back position as much help as they can and
Speaker 1: open some holes for the guy. But hard I got
Speaker 1: a hard disagree from me guys, and like, I don't
Speaker 1: feel good about it, but I have to go get
Speaker 1: somebody Alfred Morris, whatever, somebody that's done it. Somebody I
Speaker 1: mean Mike Weber and again, and they were pumped about him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's awesome. You know, he played at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: That that counts for a lot. But Bo Scarborough played
Speaker 1: at Alabama and people were high on him. He was
Speaker 1: drafted in the same range and he didn't make this team.
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson has six carries to his name. Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: looks fast as hell, very exciting. I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: want to lean on him to carry the load for
Speaker 1: an NFL team one game into his career, even if
Speaker 1: it's like an Alfred Morris, Like, I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: would be somebody that would inspire confidence, but I would
Speaker 1: try to go get someone. Even if you see a
Speaker 1: good preseason from one of these two guys. Darius Jackson
Speaker 1: looked freaking awesome in the preseason a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Philip Tanner pretty good. Yeah, But you know, I honestly
Speaker 1: believe though, if you look at kind of the way
Speaker 1: this team is constructed. Number One, I think your offensive
Speaker 1: line should be as good at least as they were
Speaker 1: last year, and I think they were pretty good running
Speaker 1: the ball. There were some deficiencies, particularly in the goal
Speaker 1: line areas. I think that in what will be Dack's
Speaker 1: forts season, my expectation is that this year he's gonna
Speaker 1: take that next step, and especially if he's going to
Speaker 1: be your quarterback of the future, this is about the
Speaker 1: time you start seeing teams kind of make that transition
Speaker 1: to where they can have some games in a season,
Speaker 1: maybe not every game, but they can have some games
Speaker 1: in a season where they go into the game saying,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put the ball in our quarterbacks hands. He's
Speaker 1: gonna win this game for us. So you look at
Speaker 1: those things and you look at the fact that, again,
Speaker 1: running back is a position where when you talk about
Speaker 1: being able to come in the league and produce immediately,
Speaker 1: we see it all the time their players that come
Speaker 1: in this league, and especially when they got good offense
Speaker 1: around them, when they've got a good offensive line, they've
Speaker 1: got capable receivers, capable quarterback. We've seen running backs coming
Speaker 1: this league and immediately make an impact. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is the worst thing in the world. And I
Speaker 1: think a guy like Darius Jackson has been here. He's
Speaker 1: not a you know, he's not a guy that's got
Speaker 1: a ton of reps here, but he certainly has been here,
Speaker 1: and so I think between him and those two young guys,
Speaker 1: I think you got enough backs to where you can
Speaker 1: make this thing go. Now. I'm also assuming that if
Speaker 1: he gets suspended, this is like a short term thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if if it turns into a six game, which I
Speaker 1: don't think he will buy any means. But if it's
Speaker 1: a long term thing, now you got a point. But
Speaker 1: if you're talking a couple of games, I think he
Speaker 1: got what you need. You go with and you see
Speaker 1: what happened. Let me ask the Cowboys historian here, when
Speaker 1: was the last time that a running back who wasn't
Speaker 1: the top one hundred pick did that for this team
Speaker 1: as a rookie? Just well period? But yeah, sure as
Speaker 1: a rookie would be even better. Marion Barber, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: long did it take him to do that? Actually? His
Speaker 1: rookie year? About the week five year Tony Collard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's go. Yeah, but it was like week five,
Speaker 1: It wasn't like week one. And he was different because
Speaker 1: he was a barbarian. I mean he could run over people, um,
Speaker 1: and he had a great Where was he picked? Um?
Speaker 1: He it was in the fourth round. I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, with there's two picks in the fourth round
Speaker 1: that year. One of them was Canty, another one was him,
Speaker 1: but I think he was the first one. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: but in that range of it was one hundred. I
Speaker 1: mean I under like, I get running back value there.
Speaker 1: You can find them all over the place. I know,
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, Philip lindsay, I get it. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it happen for this team in the time I've been here.
Speaker 1: That didn't really matter for this team. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it happens around the NFL, then it can happen well.
Speaker 1: But but what you have seen is you have seen
Speaker 1: a third round pick set the Cowboys record for most
Speaker 1: rushing yards in a season. You've also seen a guy
Speaker 1: that was at the end of his career and was
Speaker 1: pretty much washed up and with a one million a
Speaker 1: year of salary finished third in the NFL and rushing
Speaker 1: and Darren McFadden. So you've seen it with this team,
Speaker 1: seen this offensive line, seen this offensive line help elevate
Speaker 1: players to the best moments of their career. I'm a
Speaker 1: big show me guy. I'm not from Missouri, but like
Speaker 1: I not that's fair. I'm not ready to sit here
Speaker 1: and say a seventh round pick and a fourth round
Speaker 1: pick can carry the load even for like two games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just not as worried about I think that for
Speaker 1: all those things I said, I think this team has
Speaker 1: enough other weapons to where I think they they can
Speaker 1: put those running backs in good positions to be able
Speaker 1: to be success. Remember this to say, you get Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris and Zee comes back, do you want Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: on your team? No, you're just kind of right, you
Speaker 1: just kind of But also, the way the salary is
Speaker 1: that conscious whole salary is guaranteed for that year, the
Speaker 1: whole year. If he's your week one, yep, how much
Speaker 1: I mean this student's I love Alfred Morris to death.
Speaker 1: How much do you think you're paying for him? But
Speaker 1: you're paying for nothing at that point you sign him
Speaker 1: to have you met Cherry like. He doesn't like to,
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't like bad business. He signed that
Speaker 1: guy to a vet minimum contract. He plays, he's on
Speaker 1: the roster for two games, then you're that's fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. I'm so sorry, great conversation.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys today. We'll be back next week. At
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