WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Kicker Battle, Zeke Update & More 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.360 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.720 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:21.079 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:27.360 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.280 It is Wednesday, May twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.600 episode number eleven. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.240 We're live in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.240 and we're gonna make this a habit if we don't 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.040 get if we don't do something about it that we 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.559 actually have all four of our members here on the 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.600 show for a second week in a row. Good what's 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.920 going on? It's a good thing, right. We only have 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.919 a few more shows before we kind of end for 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.280 the little break here that we have before the season. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.400 I think we've got this will be after today. We'll 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.560 have two more shows and then we'll have our little break. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.480 Can kind of stop talking about football for a little bit, break, Greg, Yeah, 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.280 see what I did? See what I did? Think? So 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.160 you guys, I hope you guys enjoy this and we 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:11.920 got a lot to talk about today. We're gonna talk 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.120 about OTAs. It's the second week for the Cowboys in 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.240 a three week series of OTAs, and then that'll be 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.080 there'll be a mini camp there in the following week, 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.679 and then we'll get into a little talk on Ezekiel 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.080 Elliott and some of the challenges that he's dealing with 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.679 right now and find out from the get these guys 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.399 how concerned they are that this could turn into something 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.959 that could affect the Cowboys on the field. But before 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.280 we do that, I want to do want to talk 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.720 about the OTAs um. Last week was week one of 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.800 their OTAs, and I just kind of want to throw 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.600 it out and get some general observations. I know you 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.400 guys were out there every day during or at least 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:49.800 Wednesday during practice, and so and so I wanted to 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.520 get an idea from you guys of some of the 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.400 things that you saw while you were out there, just 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.800 to give our fans a little bit of a taste 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.480 of what kind of stuff you can see while they 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.320 have on shorts and T shirts. I'll start with Nick, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:06.800 I think that the Kellen Moore era here for the 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.079 offensive coordinator. I thought that was it's gonna be interesting 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:11.799 to see how it plays out when you wait to 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.840 the games come and really get to see what kind 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.440 of plays that he's calling. But I think from the 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.239 first indication here practice that you're gonna see some differences here. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.840 You're gonna see the way that the plays are and 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.399 dat kind of alluded to this is the plays will 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.640 be the same, how they get there will be different, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.840 and they'll dress it up. You'll see something a little 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.600 bit more of these reverses. I think what you saw 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.040 in the Rams game at the end of the way 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.880 the Rams, what they were doing with a lot of 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.680 their emotion jet sweeps, fake jet sweeps. You'll see some Yeah, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.240 you'll see some of that. That was the first thing 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.680 that kind of that kind of popped out to me, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.760 just seeing how these guys are moving around a little 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.680 bit different before the play I agree with that, and 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.880 it's it's definitely noticeable. You know, Yeah, I don't think 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.360 they're gonna overhaul the playbook, but I think you know, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.920 the personnel they used, the way they move it around 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.200 pre snap motion. I know we've beaten into the ground, 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.720 but it is something that we saw at practice last week. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.040 It seems like it's something Kellen Moore wants to implement. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.040 I don't. I don't want to get too excited about 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.080 it just because it's May and I want to you know, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.160 I feel like they did that stuff at training camp 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.880 last year, and then it disappeared when the season started, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.320 which is you know, I don't. I don't want to 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.280 get just absolutely psyched about that until I kind of 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.880 see it in a more real environment. For me, I 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.760 just like seeing the lineup combinations at this time of year. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.040 You know, Connor Williams played left tackle last week, which 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.680 you know, Tyrn Smith, Lyle Collins, and Cam Fleming all 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.920 sat out of practice, So that's a pretty huge caveat. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.720 You know, it's not like he was tackles were gone, true, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.160 but there's eight other guys they could have asked to 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.240 play tackle instead. It was really unexpected. That's something that 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.000 you don't expect the Cowboys to show the media. We 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.080 are not a big deal, but still it was surprising. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.720 It's not a big deal, but it's not not a deal, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.360 you know what I mean. Yeah, but he's there alarating 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.640 left guard. He you know, and he you know, he 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.480 was solid as a rookie but he wasn't amazing, so 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.080 you would think he needs all the reps he can 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.840 get at the position you want him to play. And 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.840 then a month after they draft Connor mcgovernor and we're like, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.040 what does this mean for Connor Williams the future? They 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.880 got him play and tackle and again I know all 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.880 the other tackles were out, but they could have asked 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.800 and undraft. I mean, Jake Campos was playing right tackle. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.240 He's not gonna make this team, no offense, Jake. But 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.599 they got a guy that's gonna make this team playing 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.800 left tackle. Right. But this is the day at that point, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.080 it was day two of installation. That's what these OTAs are. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.719 They're installing the offense. So to put a guy out 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.440 there and to say this is where you're going to play, like, yeah, 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.279 we need some of these, we need someone to play 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.800 left tackle, but this is where you install the offense. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.159 So if he's going to be your starting left guard, 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.680 which which he will be, I still think that they 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.800 use that time to get him some snaps at tack 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.360 and then sorry, but the fun thing is you see 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.040 that at practice and then you go into the locker 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.760 room and you can Connor himself and he's like, yeah, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.760 this are the first reps I've gotten at tackle since 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.440 I was in college. So, like, you know, maybe it 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.080 isn't a big deal if he's like, well, yeah, I 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.920 did this for scout team all the time last year, 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.840 or you know I did this at times in the 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.920 spring last year too, Like, no, this is the first 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.839 time they've ever asked him to do that. Yeah, and 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.599 I don't care who was sitting out. That's significant. Yeah, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.240 I get that. I guess the way I looked at 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.440 it when what I heard about it was I think 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.359 there's kind of a now component to that and a 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.800 future component to that. I think the now component is 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.560 that of all the guys you said they could have 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.960 asked to do it, Like you said, those guys are 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.680 not going to be here. So the likelihood that Connor 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.960 has to play tackle as opposed to any of those 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.080 other guys is still much higher that Connor will get 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.240 the opportunity than they will in the event they lost 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.039 all those tackles. Right, So, if you're going to throw 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.760 somebody out there to learn the position R plus, somebody 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.279 out there's going to actually be here now. But you 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.800 don't do that unless in the future you're thinking, hey, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.760 it would be nice to get him some reps because 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.760 there may be an opportunity next year possibly for him 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.040 to play some tackles. So I think I think it 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.640 says something about maybe what they think for the future 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.479 obviously doesn't make a whole big difference right now. But 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.120 I don't think any of us are surprised by the 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.000 fact that in the future they think he could possibly 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.800 play tackle for them. But again, no one's surprised and 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.039 surprised that they admit that he's been saying it for 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.080 a year, that that don't be surprised when this happens, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.400 and then they're gonna tell you, oh, we're all along 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.880 and here it is. This is happening. Is exactly what 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.000 Dave said a year ago. Maybe not a year ago, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.520 but like six months ago. Yeah, and what was that? 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.080 What was that? I didn't hear the other thing? You know, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.160 don't don't get me in trouble because we only get 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.160 to watch one of these, and I did not. I 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.240 was not at Tuesday or Thursday's ota. Jerry Stephen, if 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.039 you happen to be listening, how would you ever see 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.359 those We only see Wednesday exactly. Yeah, but they but 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.520 so the point there's two practices that they The media 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.000 is not there, so they had two practices to work 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.159 Connor at tackle if they didn't want people to know, 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.280 and they were like, ah, whatever, we'll just will play 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.840 him here on Wednesday. Who cares. So I do think 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.360 that is somewhat significant. I'm kind of glad that they 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.360 did that, though, you know, you're right, most of the 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.040 times in this organization, typically that's the kind of thing 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.040 they don't want to put out there because it writes 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.240 a lot of questions. But it is the thing that 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.400 if you if you're thinking about it, why not give him, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.680 especially when all those other guys are out, Why not 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.160 give him a shot to kind of just see a 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.600 little bit. Let him have an opportunity to see what 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.640 it's like, to start getting familiar with what his responsibilities are. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.440 I don't think there's anything wrong with that, because you 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.600 also can see, hey, do we think this is actually 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.040 going to work? And if any opportunity you get to 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.840 see if it's going to work before you get to 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.600 the chance where you have to throw him in, it's 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.960 a good thing. I would love it if he is, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.680 you know, and Tyron, you know, Tyron is going to 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.240 have that days from now until the end of time 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.920 now and at training camp. You know, he's missed at 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.200 least two games each of the last three years, so 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.080 it's a decent bed. He'll miss time in the regular 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.080 season too. I hope he doesn't, but history indicates that 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.200 he might, so I hope this continues. I hope this 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.600 isn't just a may thing. You know. I hope if 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.960 Tyrant is off on a Thursday at training camp, you know, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.520 I hope that they find a way for that to 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.720 mean Connor can play some tackle. But if Cam is health, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.600 do you kind of want Cam to have those opportunities 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.560 because once he gets the season, he's gonna be the 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.440 guys out there. If Tyrannt's out there, he gonna be 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.600 the second team left tackle or something. You know. I'm 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.120 just saying, I think it would be smart just give 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.160 him some opportunity. Yep. I see. All right, Let's let's 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.240 get some more observations. What were some other things that 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.360 you guys may have noticed. Ambersame thing that you that 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.000 stood out to you well, by default, the way these 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.400 practices are structure, Usually the wide receiver and like the 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.440 running backs are the ones who stand who tend to 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.360 stand out. The most one that com my eye was 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.600 Tony Pollard, who obviously he's a guy that we've been 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:48.520 talking about after since the draft, but I even know 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.719 his number at the moment. And then I saw a 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.760 guy I'm like, oh wow, who's that? And Oh that's Tony. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.520 So it's noticeable the kind of speed that he has, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:01.160 the way he breaks. I like his awareness on the field. Again, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.520 these are light practices, but still just being able to 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.200 see a guy stand out among the crowd, it was still. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.760 It was still good. Another thing that I was talking 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.760 to to Dave and Brian that I wasn't thinking about 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.319 was the kicker, and like the realization of man, they 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.880 have not brought a kicker in yet. Probably will happen 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.920 at training camp. But that's another thing that we tend 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.680 to forget a little bit. I don't I don't know 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.560 they should. I asked Nick this question and it was 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.679 kind of tongue in cheek during practice last week. Um, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.239 I said, what's the what's the chances that the Cowboys 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.480 midseason have a different kicker than they have right now? 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.160 And we both kind of just looked at each other 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.040 and I don't think either one of us were really 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.040 convicted that they'll have the same kicker because he was 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.680 so inconsistent last year. We know he has a big leg, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.520 but there was some misses that were just inexplicable. I mean, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.560 how many bad games does who's the best kicker in 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:01.000 the league, got Tucker Tucker? How many or Askowski? Okay, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.880 how many bad games this Tucker have before he's cut? 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.800 Depends on how bad they, you know, like he missed, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.839 he missed over time. You're gonna have to have to 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.679 have have a season of just like unexplainable things that 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.680 just happens. So seven or eight, I mean he's the 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.040 best of all time. Seven or eight. You're like, oh, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.360 this is he doesn't have it anymore. How many bad 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.200 games does Maha have? Two in a two in a 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.680 short span or no, three in a short span of time, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.040 like three in a month, three you know, three and 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.040 five weeks. I mean, I also wonder what you call 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.080 a bad game, because there was your games when he 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.760 came back and he made some kicks, some kicks, but 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.240 then he missed some early whereas last twenty one to 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.480 twenty in to the Giants in Week one, he missed 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.760 an extra point in the second quarter and a forty 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.520 four yard field goal. So that's a story. I thought. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.520 I was like that, didn't know. No, that's week one. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.040 And then week two he misses a thirty seven yarder 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.280 off the post in the press box. It's like, okay, 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.800 available kicks out of Yeah, everyone start google about it. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.719 So I three seems like a lot if he if 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.680 he started the season with two bad games, he's cut. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.240 I just feel like it's it's been a while since 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.520 y'all were probably at this stage in your life, but like, 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.600 did you ever have like a beater car, like just 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.400 a beater car, like a piece of crap car, Like 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.840 oh yeah, and like it was a piece of crap, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.520 but you loved it, you know, and like other people 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.960 might be like, man, is that what you're saying, I'm 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.920 not saying a piece of crap? Well yeah, what are 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.160 we saying? I'm just crap? But was him? You know, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.800 you probably loved that car a lot more than like 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.960 your friends did. Right, Like you had say so he's 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.280 like it's gonna get me where I need to go sometimes, Well, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.240 I mean there, you know that was the point of 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.720 but the point sometimes you loved it more than other 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.440 people did. And I don't want to call Brett Maher 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:48.920 a piece of crap, that's not my point, but I 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.839 think that certainly would It sounded like cowboys like him 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.240 and feel loyal to him a lot more than people 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.200 outside the organization. Okay, but that's why why would they 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.640 Why this is not then the car that's taking them 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:05.439 to the bailey exactly If they don't have loyalty to him, 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.920 how what makes you think they got loyalty to Mahs? 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.480 Just all signs point toward it, like they I mean, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.760 a guy would be here right now, like it's and 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.280 this is in my six years of doing this, Like 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.760 they don't just add a kicker a week before they leave, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.640 like they do that right after the draft, like he 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.880 would be here being part of this. So your thought 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.000 is because there's nobody here, you think in their minds, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.319 Maher is their guy. They are sold here to Nix 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.720 point and to your point too, like only until he's not, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.319 Like you know, they got da a week. Their attitude 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.520 going into training camp is not like we need to 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.079 do something about this, But it just doesn't make any sense. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.199 That is a position that we talked about or was 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.280 talked about last year. Why would you not add some 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.719 kind of competition just for the sake of it. Why? Honestly, though, 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.760 I really believe, especially a kicker that's been in the 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.839 CFL and is bounced around like he has, I think 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.240 those kickers think that they're competing all the time. They 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.680 I mean, even even if they're not, even if there's 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.840 not another kicker, they know that if they miss in practice, 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.120 that that will mcclay's got fourteen kickers on a list 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:09.880 that he knows who can get it's a good point. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.560 So I think I think they all, Yeah, it's one 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.360 thing to look her over your shoulder and see another 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.319 guy he made it in practice and all the teammates, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.960 but they know if they struggled that there there's a 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.360 hook there. Yeah. That's probably more than any other position. Yeah, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.400 you don't easily replaceable, but it's it seems like they're 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.160 easily replaceable from the standpoint that you can always get 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.240 him out and bring in another guy. Like there's not 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.599 there's not, Like you said, the best kicker in the 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.000 league right now, if he has half a season worth 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.600 of bad kicks, he's probably gonna think about the kicker 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.760 in Minnesota. He for a long time was the was 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.640 the best guy in the league. What's his name, Walsh, 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:48.320 lay Blair Walsh, he was he wasna. He was a 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.839 money kicker for them for a long time, and then 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.240 all of a sudden, in one season, it just started going. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.760 It started the end of one season and then it 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.600 carried into the next season and then that way. Are 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.800 you talking about Dan Bailey again, because that's it's the 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.360 anything example. But my point is that's kickers in the NFL. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.240 You have it until you don't. Yeah, it's the story 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:08.720 of every kicker except for like Vinetary and Um Janikowski. Yeah, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.080 like those are the only two that have really defied that. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.360 And Janikowski still, I mean, he didn't retire with his 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.920 first team, so yeah, Nary, Well he left on purpose 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.400 though he didn't get cut right, Yeah, he had a 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.240 better offer. I don't remember how it felt like he 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.920 had a stretch there where he kinda he left in 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.120 free agency to join the Colts and it was like 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.040 that's the first time that's like, oh my god, we 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.600 got this kicker. Like that. Doesn't he didn't retire this year, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.400 did he? 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I think 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.760 the report came out was that last week when the 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:20.320 port report came out. Yeah, Um, and uh, basically there 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.040 was video of an incident that happened in Las Vegas 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:27.840 while Ezekiel was there. And on the video, UM, there 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.359 was I don't know if it was a It certainly 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.520 wasn't a physical altercation. I don't think there was kind 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.200 of a little bowing up between him and another guy 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.040 and I guess that was security. Um and the incident. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.840 Police handcuffed him, but he was not arrested, supposedly just 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.600 detained and and nothing ever came of it. From a 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.960 legal standpoint. Um, but here's the issue. We all go 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.320 back to twenty seventeen, UM and when when Zeke had 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.520 the issue with the NFL regarding uh the issue of 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.959 or the allegation around domestic violence. The NFL had an 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.439 investigation that they did. They had a person who was 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.080 charged with doing the investigation. That person came to the 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.639 conclusion that there should be no punishment because there were 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.280 too many inconsistencies in the whole story. Despite that, Roger 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.880 Goodell and the people in charge of the NFL made 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.119 the decision that Zeke should face a six game suspension. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.280 He ultimately served that suspension. That all being said, and 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.000 knowing that because of that, he now is in a 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.960 situation where he's under increased scrutiny from the NFL and 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.200 Indian fraction is reviewable by the NFL and can lead 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.600 to punishment. How concerned are you, guys, that this particular situation, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.720 even though he was not arrested, can end up being 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.960 a problem for Zeke and for the Cowboys. I'm not concerned. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.600 I don't think he'll be suspended. I don't. I don't 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.600 think it. That's not a penalty on the football field. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.480 What he did. It's not a penalty. I don't think 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.080 you can call that any kind of incident. I mean, ye, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.000 it's an incident because reported on tape, but you can't 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.399 get suspended for that. I just don't believe it. I 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.720 don't believe that's going to happen. One thing to note is, 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.760 and I was reading the report yesterday, a journalist for 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.400 for Yahoo Sports, Charles Robinson, was breaking down the kind 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.960 of the things that the league told Zeke at the 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.439 time in twenty seventeen after he had been suspended, and 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.480 one of the things that stuck out to me was 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.200 it said, it is not just we're not just worried 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.760 about violence. We're worried about even threats of violence. And 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.320 that's what made me start to think, can the league 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.960 again in a situation well we know the league when 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.640 it comes to Zeke, it seems like they just got 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:42.720 a thing for him. And that being said, do they 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.159 construe what they saw there on that tape as a 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.000 threat of violence that could then once again give them 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.520 license because again, they don't need license from anybody else 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.600 other than themselves to say we think there's an infraction 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.320 here and because of that, we're giving you a suspension. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.760 I mean, all due respect to your opinion, Like I 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.680 I know how you can sit here and just say no, 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.920 there's no chance. I didn't say there's no chance. You 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.040 said you don't think it'll happen. That's two different things. 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.080 I mean, there's a chance because you have that, you 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.040 have the guy in the office up there. That right, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.960 and that's it should be. It should be concerning and 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.159 like that, that should hang over everything else, and it 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.159 I don't agree with it, you know, Like what happened 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.160 with the security guard. I mean, come on, get out 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.439 of here. Yeah, it wasn't right, but I didn't know 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.560 Mino Genobli was running in security now. But seriously, at 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:33.560 the same time, focus should not flop. At the same time, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:38.560 he's Ezekiel Elliott. It sucks for him, Like, I mean, 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.439 you know, he didn't do anything wrong that the video showed, 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.159 you know, the pushing the guy over. It's not a 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.199 great look. Seemed like he was arguing with who I 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.760 think was his girlfriend thee Again, the guy fell on 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.480 the ground and it's not fair. But Ezekieli is going 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.040 to be held to a different standard. I'm sorry, I 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.280 don't know what y'all want me to say yeah, And 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.680 there's one one guy that is really ultimately in charge 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.440 of making that decision. And I think Charles Robinson made 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.200 a really good point that maybe people don't want to hear. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.880 But I don't know that Jerry Jones does the Cowboys 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.080 any favors. When he comes out and says like it's 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.439 not a big deal like this, you know he's in 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.440 good standing. He'll be okay because he said that last time. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.320 And I wonder if, like maybe Roger Goodell is kind 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.360 of like, well, you don't, Jerry, like I'll make these 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.600 decisions like you don't ultimately decide what happens here. I'm 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.520 the commissioner of the league. I know you're one of 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.480 the most powerful owners in the league, but this is 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.480 still up to me. And I think I think stuff 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.560 like that matters. So if I had to bet on 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.119 it today, it doesn't seem like it should merit to suspension. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.440 But I can't in full confidence say it won't. I mean, 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.600 as I said, I think we said this last week. 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.520 The guy who's not going to do well in this 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:55.600 scenario is Tyrone Crawford, because I don't think that Zeke 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.239 will get a suspension based off of that. But I 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.560 think Tyron Crawford will be what it's a similar you 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.440 think it'll be kind of I mean, if you can 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.680 sit here and say, well, you know, the guy flopped 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.359 and all that stuff, then yeah, well looking not a 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.320 whole lot of flopping going on in the video from 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.520 Panama City. There's a lot of I mean, yeah, that's 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.280 a little more of a scary situation. And yeah, I 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.119 mean that's a great point, you know what I wonder here? 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.199 And I think you guys both are gonna say like 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.000 a big hell note to this. But you know, and 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:30.159 and as a referee, if you if you throw a 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.560 past interference penaltee and it was questionable and everyone's going crazy, 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.240 you're probably gonna get a makeup call the next play, 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:41.360 next few plays is does he gonna get a makeup call? Here? 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.200 I think Roger Goodell thinks that he did something wrong 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.520 because it only went to like nineteen higher courts. No, 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.600 he had, he had every opportunity to make to make 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.879 the decision that we all thought should have been made 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.119 um And and that's because he had. He had And 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.440 I really think the league in a lot of instances 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:03.320 makes decisis based upon public perception and having cover for 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.919 what they decide. I think in this instance, because they 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:11.000 had a private investigation, because the result of that private 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:16.160 investigation was there should be no penalty. He had more 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.639 than ample. And this is an independent person. This is 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.359 not a person who is just like bound to the league. 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.840 This is an independent person that made this a recommendation 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.679 and said nothing should happen. He had sufficient cover to 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.520 be able to say, okay, either nothing or just because 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.119 we had to go through all this, we're going to 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.600 give you a game or two games. Right. The fact 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:39.200 is they gave him six games. That says to me, 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:43.679 and Roger Goodell doesn't really care about that what you're saying, like, 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.200 he doesn't really care about trying to make up for anything. 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.720 He ultimately was like, I think that this guy's a 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.760 bad guy and I'm going to punish him. Okay, Well, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.480 after that happened, you know, all cowboy fans or other 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:59.440 media members whatever, they you can find a similar situation. 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.320 And it was the kicker for the Giants. I forgot 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:08.200 his name, Brown, Josh Brown, maybe Brown right, Okay, that 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.879 was a lot of people were saying, hey, what about 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:15.680 this so and it was Blake, right, So my point 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.880 is is that if he gets suspended again for this, 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:25.800 how many forearm shoves that have been that have taken 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:30.040 place somebody on the camera, some you know incident. I 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.000 mean the guy that's signed with the Raiders. I mean, 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:33.800 he seems like he's got a few things as well. 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.720 So I'm just saying he's gonna at some point Goodell's 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.919 gonna open himself up too. And he already has a 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.720 bunch of criticism. If you if you do this again, 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.080 it could be really bad. I just don't see it happening. 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.480 But it doesn't doesn't seem he cares about criticism because 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.920 he's criticism and he keeps making these kinds of decisions. 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.160 Not only does he not care about criticism, Like if 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.719 the NFL cared about congruents and their decisions, then we 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.960 would be I mean like they do whatever they want 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.359 with a very little video. To me, the video hurts 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.760 that case because what he was going off of was, well, 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.159 look at this report. We have we know things that 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.880 are happening. What two years ago? We know things. There's 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:15.880 things in this report you don't even know about. See, 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.159 that's the stuff we would hear, is that there's a 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.679 lot to it. This, we all see it. He's not 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.000 gonna see anything that we didn't see unless there's another 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.800 videos that services. So I just you can hide behind 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.240 reports in forty seven page reports that you don't know 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.840 all the details that we know. But in this particular case, 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.879 I just don't think there's gonna be anything extra to it. 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.160 I guess my whole thing with this is just that 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:41.840 I don't think that this, like Dave was saying, I 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.639 think this is all over the map. There is no 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.719 real rhyme or reason that we can perceive in a 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.560 lot of the decisions. And because of that, you have 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.840 a situation here where it for me, if I'm if 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.679 I'm thinking just as a Cowboys fan, I would be 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.439 concerned because this is a wildcard and I know that 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.440 they've suspended Zeke for sick they gave him a maximum 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.320 penalty for what many people thought should not have been 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:09.560 a penalty, And this is a situation where he's on camera, 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.639 and again, the league and Roger Goodell aren't necessarily concerned 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.040 about whether you're breaking the law. They're concerned about how 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.360 it reflects on the NFL, how much time is being 0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.760 spent on it, being talked about on talk radio and 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.000 being shown on television, and how much does that video 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.480 gets shown from TMZ across all the masses. That affects 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.399 what people think of NFL and NFL players. That's what 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.040 they're way more concerned about, and that for me would 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.200 be a bit concerning. I will say it seems like 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:41.720 this video it seems like it's kind of faded into 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.200 the backdrop, like we're not I mean, obviously we are 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.240 a cowboys talk show. Of course we're going to talk 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.560 about it, but it doesn't seem like this is dominating 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.520 the first takes of the world anymore, you know. Like 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.280 so in that regard, maybe it's not the article come 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.560 out yesterday. Yeah, this week, I mean, the holiday kind 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.080 of messed me up, but definitely this week. So I 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.480 don't know, I wouldn't be surprised by anything, which and 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.600 that's kind of that's the lesson that I took from 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:12.400 the last one is I was pretty dead sure that 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.240 that was going to blow over and it turned into 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.800 a six game suspension, which I don't think obviously that 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:20.960 would really be stunning. But I don't know. And if 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.520 I had to guess this will play out like we 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.960 won't probably won't hear anything about Zeke or Tyrone until August. 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.760 If I had to, if I had to guess, does 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.560 this at all change or how does it, if if so, 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.880 change your opinion of Zeke and his level of maturity. 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.199 Was there anything in that video that changed your thoughts? There? No, 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.919 And I think I'm really really glad he did not 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.560 even touch the girl, to even grab her, like he 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.800 would just stand in front of her and like block 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.040 her just by him standing, because howd he just grabbed 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.560 her arm or something that would Yeah, and that would 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.439 have been a total mess. So I'm really glad, and 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.600 I we I think we can all agree on this. 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.960 We I've seen a tremendous difference from Ezekiel Elia two 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.480 years ago to the one that he is now. So 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:08.920 I don't think this changes anything. It does for me 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.800 because um not for one, because of the camp. Yeah, 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.160 I'm sorry, because of the camp he had the next day. Yeah, 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.080 I mean you are nine hours removed from being on 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.199 the field with when you know, from Dallas to Las Vegas. 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.359 You're in Las Vegas nine hours from now, you're going 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:32.560 to be uh in Dallas with these kids that that 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.640 paid a lot of money for you. To be there 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.840 and to give them your best, and you know, he's 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.480 superhuman on the field, and so maybe he was absolutely 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.680 at his best at noon. But I don't know. I 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.400 just is that really fair though, because okay, I like 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.760 to put it in the context of myself when I 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.120 was a young man and out having a good time, 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.600 Like I didn't think necessarily me going out tonight and 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.360 having a great time had anything to do with my 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.360 ability to get up the next day and do my job. 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.560 And I know you and I, like we were young, 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.800 you could actually do it. I can't train again. We 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.400 go out, we'd have a great time at night, and 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.280 the next morning we were up and at you know, 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.360 up and at him at seven thirty eight o'clock, ready 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.000 to do work. Right. I think there's an important difference there, 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.920 And I would never throw stones. I said this on 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.280 the show last week, like I've been to work hungover 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.320 so many times in my career. Not this week, not 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.320 this week? Really, Yeah, I know it's shocking, isn't It's 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.239 it's absolutely shock were doing his review? Yeah we need 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:37.560 Actually it's maybe yeah, but there's a difference between you know, 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.160 if you're rolling out of bed to go cover training 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.239 camp practice and that's your job, and maybe you had 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.560 a few too many. Or like if we were doing 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.320 a live episode of The Break and people were paying 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:48.840 to watch us and we were going to do a 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.360 meet and greet, like, Hey, nice to meet you, Thanks 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.040 for coming to our show, Hopefully I wouldn't come to 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.480 that with a terrible hangover, you know, like people are 0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.520 paying for your services. Now, let's go back to when 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.520 we were in London and we were just kind of 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.280 hanging out and we were enjoying London, and we had 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.120 shows every single day, and there were people that would 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.600 never ever get a chance to interact with us, and 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.080 we were we giving them our best every every day. 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.400 Hell yeah, it's one of the best weeks of my life. Right. 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.800 But but we were enjoying the nightlife though, weren't we. Yeah, 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.800 those shows were Okay, hold on, here's the here's the 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.840 difference between that because the people that we were working 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.200 for were the ones that were passing all the drink. 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.600 Yeah again, And we don't know if he was drum right, 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.520 We know, we don't. We don't. Okay point two. True, 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.520 It's just that it would be the same if it 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.280 like if okay three o'clock in the morning. We've all 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.240 done it on a road trip. We've been in a 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.080 hotel abby at three o'clock in the morning, because we 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.000 don't have the same job to do. If we saw 0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.360 a player doing that, you know, obviously that is his craft, 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.360 that's his profession. You'd like to think that he's not 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.840 going to break curfew. But if for that moment here 0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:01.080 in May, that is his job, he's he paid pretty 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.520 good money to do that and be available. But so 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.080 the whole question you asked me was does it Does 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.920 it change my perception for him and his maturity a 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.200 little bit? Because you opened yourself up for it to 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.400 be there, and at three o'clock in the morning, you're 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:19.520 you're out, you're cutting it close, and I just think 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.600 it's that's not a good look for me. And that's 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:24.960 the part I get when you say, just from a 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.960 standpoint of being self aware, understanding the environment, understanding the 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.440 people that are around you, understanding the cameras are there, 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.680 understanding that it's probably not what's is saying, nothing good 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.920 happens after three o'clock and after two o'clock and the 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.160 more whatever it is. I mean, yes, that's a matter 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.960 of maturity and maybe he's not at that point yet, 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.240 but I don't know that. I think that because he 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:46.680 was out having a good time and he had something 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.440 to do the next day, that necessarily, in my opinion, 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:53.560 changes my belief in his maturity. It doesn't really affect 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.400 my opinion just because it's it all fits with it 0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.959 all fits comfortably within the picture of who he is. 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.240 And I do think he's grown up since he got 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.680 in the league, but at the same time, he's still 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.600 he's still similar to me in the sense that, you know, 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.640 I feel like we ride this roller coaster, where like 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.040 in twenty seventeen he was the devil and that was 0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.800 never true. And then I don't want to point fingers, 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.160 but in twenty nineteen, you can. People are trying to 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.720 push this narrative that he's like Saint Zeke now, like, 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.880 look at the amazing offseason Zeke is having. He's he's 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.360 feeding the homeless and doing like he's just the most wonderful. 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.640 That's not true either, Like neither one of these things 0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.320 is true. He's a twenty three year old kid who 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.760 has a big heart, loves to make kind gestures for people, 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.400 is an amazing Probably was that guy back in said 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.640 twenty seventeen, from the standpoint of just be having a 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.280 big heart. Yeah, big heart. Teammates love him. He does 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.880 nice things in the community. He's also twenty three and 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.200 likes the nightlife. That is well documented going back to which, 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.520 by the way, most twenty three year course love the nightlife, 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.120 of course, loves you know, loves to have a good time. 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.280 He can be kind of moody, He can be kind 0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.560 of grumpy. He can also be like the happiest dude 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.120 I've ever seen. It just kind of depends on when 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.800 you catch him, like, are you describing him? Are you hey? 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.000 Maybe that's why we get along. I don't know. It 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.960 all fits within the picture of who he like. He's 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.440 a pretty normal twenty three year old guy who happens 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.840 to be awesome in football and rich and rich rich 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.560 as hell. I think he needs I think he needs 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.120 to be a little more perceptive of just how big 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.160 the spotlight on him is. But you know that'll come 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.160 in time, hopefully. Some of the clips I saw from 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.480 the camp, he seemed pretty good interacting with the kids. 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.480 That's where I would have a problem with it. I 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.800 don't have a problem with it right now. But I 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.760 would have had he been like just grumpy and just 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.160 standing there and not really interacting with the kids. I 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.200 think he was able to provide what the kids wanted 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.760 and provide that experience for them. So it doesn't really matter. 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.560 I'll point the finger back at myself because I do 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.040 this with Brian all the time. Brian brought us, loves 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.800 to give me crap about like when I come in 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.720 or what time I leave, or what I was doing 0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.040 the night before, And I'm like, if I'm here and 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:03.560 I do my job and I do it well, why 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.600 who's business? Like? Why your business? Yeah? And I think 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.879 that's in everybody's life. I think the point is if 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.360 you can manage it like I don't. I don't regulate 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.680 your your employers should not regulate what you do in 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.400 your off time. But when you get to the office, 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.920 there have been better not be lingering effects of what 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.719 you did in your off time. So as long as 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.960 you can manner and there was though, because I'm sure 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.680 he's still on his wrist. He's probably still had the hint, 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.600 you know, but who cares? But that doesn't matter if 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.800 he who cares? What do you mean if he's still capable? 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.640 If He's still capable of giving those kids a great experience. 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.160 He was not detained from the standpoint of still being 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.640 there when he was supposed to be at the camp. 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.360 So if he shows up at the camp and he 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.960 gives those kids his best, I don't think whatever happened 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.759 last night really matters. Okay, So the twice So the 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.800 question is do you think that you have any issues 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.920 with his maturity? And I say yeah, because because right 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.279 before the day of the camp, you know, and I 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.760 have kids, You have kids in the camp leader sitting 0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.359 there and he's like, well, you know, nine hours ago 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.600 he was in hand cuffs in Las Vegas. Maybe it 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.560 was his fault, maybe it wasn't, but he was still there. 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.960 Like you're still going to raise questions and be like, oh, 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.640 that wasn't the best decision. Wasn't the best decision? And 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.319 does he where does he fly? Does he fly his 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.600 own jet or does he does he do commercial because 0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:17.440 I know Shannon spent twelve hours in Vegas. Yeah, Shannon 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.080 grows twelve hours back and forth, five hour delays here 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.640 and there. Even if you're not in handcuffs, even if 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:27.440 you're just doing great community work, that's cutting it close. 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.160 For a camp that you need to be there for. 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:34.040 That's all I'm saying. So which so everything I just said, yeah, 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.759 like if you can handle it, good for you, this 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.360 is America, all that good stuff. But like the truly 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.160 mature decision might have been, like, hey, I got this 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.960 thing on Sunday, I'll probably just kick it in Dallas 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.279 and Vegas will be there another weekend. And when I 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.239 was twenty three years old, I wasn't mature either. I 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.279 don't even know if I am right now. So the 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.400 question about being mature, like does that really even matter? No, 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.080 I don't think he's that mature. But I think he's 0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.200 one hell of a football player. He's still learning, he 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.440 has at heart. That the same guy that's paying for 0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:07.040 a funeral for a kid that was was he murdered 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.279 in the same shot shot. Yeah, I mean it's a 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.960 terrible story. Uh you know that that's great, But that 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.480 guy still it's okay that he likes to go out 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.000 and have fun. Everyone does. I just don't. Maybe what 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:20.279 I'm trying to say is, I don't even know if 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.920 it matters that much. There's guys, I mean, Michael Vert 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.800 is one of the greatest players the Cowboys history. I 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.359 don't know if he was mature at the end of 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.880 his career. Yeah, it happens like that. They're not paying 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.920 for him to be They're paying for him to be 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.160 a great football player. And that's what he is, and 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:37.879 you know he's going to have some issues that way, 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.040 he sticks to what he is. Part of what they're 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.920 paying for is the confidence that he will be available 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.440 to them. That's true and that and that's I guess 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.319 where I come down on this is as of right now, 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.439 I don't think it's a big enough deal. I said. 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.680 I did a segment with Brian brought Us on TV 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.160 last week where I was like, if the Cowboys are 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.640 thrown off by this, then like, how well do they 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.160 really know their players? Because, like I said, it fits 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.800 within the narrative of what we know about Ezekiel Elliott. 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:05.840 So they should be the last people that are surprised. 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.799 They might be disappointed, they shouldn't be surprised by it. Yeah. 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.560 So you could be a quality person and still like 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.279 you kick it, Yeah, absolutely, And kicking it might mean 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:14.839 you might be the wrong place at the wrong time, 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.040 So you might get into bad situations because you're not 0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.560 because you're worth somewhere that at that time and night, 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.400 bad things can tend to happen. But there's a point 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.560 in that video where you don't have to do that. 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.759 You don't have to load your shoulder on the guy 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.719 and even make it, you don't have to go that far. 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.799 I think it's a serious thing. No, I don't, But 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.880 I'm just saying he could have walked away from that. 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.920 But that's also where I do think that my opinion 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.960 may have changed to the better because I agree with Amber. 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.279 I think there were moments in that video when it 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.520 could have gotten a lot worse. And I think I 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.040 think there was a certain level of restraint that he 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.960 had in that video in a couple different situations where 0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.000 I'm not sure that a few years ago he would 0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.360 have had that same level of restraint. Now, is he 0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.319 where he needs to be? As a forty seight year 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.319 old man, I'd probably make much different decision and then 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.720 he would have made. But I'm also forty six years old, 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.960 and and that's a matter of getting older and being 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.120 more mature. He can be more mature now than he 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.879 was back then. That doesn't mean he's fully developed yet, 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:15.160 right fair. I mean that's that's fair that you said 0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:19.920 that I'm over this conversation. It's I mean, you can, 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.960 like we've been arguing, you can argue both sides, and 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.960 it's just whatever it is, what it is. We'll see 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.000 what the league does, if they do something. But in 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.120 the meantime, it's which it's a tough conversation to have 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.680 because it's it's not a black and white issue that 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.359 you can just come down with a firm take on, right, 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.520 And that's what so many people want to do and 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.359 I refuse to. But yeah, so I mean like, yeah, 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.440 I mean, just kind of play it by ear. It 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:48.840 doesn't really drastically change my opinion of what I already 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.120 knew about Ezekiel Elliott. It's something that he needs to 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.400 continue to work on, and I'd be surprised if he 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.800 got suspended, but you can never say for sure. So 0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:00.839 let's take that to the other stream. Then we only 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.239 have a few more minutes here because we got to 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.279 leave a little early today at ten thirty for Coach 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.839 Garret's press conference. We have to say, see, no, we'll 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.160 get to that next week. But um, let's assume for 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.440 a second at the Cowboy that the Cowboys do face 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.239 a potential suspension with Zeke. How comfortable do you fill 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.200 with the running back position right now, knowing that there's 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.319 not a lot of experience there. You would have to 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.759 let's assume that it's it happens at the beginning of 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.359 the season and there are some games that he has 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.239 to miss. How comfortable do you feel that rookies can 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.080 immediately step in and be able to give you what 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.879 you need for those games and not going to replace Zeke? 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.399 They're not good enough to replace Zeke. Gonna know who 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.719 in the league would um it's the one position where 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.840 guys can plug in and be more effective than others. 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.399 And I you're drafted too, They're gonna have to do it. 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.160 I mean, I don't think you go. Maybe they would 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.080 go and sign someone that's out there, but I don't 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:55.520 think so. Tony Pollard, Mike Weber that the fact that 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.080 a lot of confidence you'll have to rely on your 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.719 old line and hope that they can do give the 0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.640 running back position as much help as they can and 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.919 open some holes for the guy. But hard I got 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.439 a hard disagree from me guys, and like, I don't 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.480 feel good about it, but I have to go get 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.400 somebody Alfred Morris, whatever, somebody that's done it. Somebody I 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.399 mean Mike Weber and again, and they were pumped about him. 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.520 Maybe he's awesome. You know, he played at Ohio State. 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.719 That that counts for a lot. But Bo Scarborough played 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.719 at Alabama and people were high on him. He was 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.040 drafted in the same range and he didn't make this team. 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.040 Darius Jackson has six carries to his name. Tony Pollard 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.600 looks fast as hell, very exciting. I'm not sure I 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.960 want to lean on him to carry the load for 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:45.440 an NFL team one game into his career, even if 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.279 it's like an Alfred Morris, Like, I'm not saying it 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:51.120 would be somebody that would inspire confidence, but I would 0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:52.880 try to go get someone. Even if you see a 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.680 good preseason from one of these two guys. Darius Jackson 0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.239 looked freaking awesome in the preseason a couple of years ago. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.280 Philip Tanner pretty good. Yeah, But you know, I honestly 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.359 believe though, if you look at kind of the way 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.480 this team is constructed. Number One, I think your offensive 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.560 line should be as good at least as they were 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.560 last year, and I think they were pretty good running 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.719 the ball. There were some deficiencies, particularly in the goal 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:18.640 line areas. I think that in what will be Dack's 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.000 forts season, my expectation is that this year he's gonna 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.120 take that next step, and especially if he's going to 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:26.880 be your quarterback of the future, this is about the 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.520 time you start seeing teams kind of make that transition 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.400 to where they can have some games in a season, 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.520 maybe not every game, but they can have some games 0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.080 in a season where they go into the game saying, 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:36.839 we're gonna put the ball in our quarterbacks hands. He's 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.200 gonna win this game for us. So you look at 0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:41.040 those things and you look at the fact that, again, 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.800 running back is a position where when you talk about 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.880 being able to come in the league and produce immediately, 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.759 we see it all the time their players that come 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.960 in this league, and especially when they got good offense 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.080 around them, when they've got a good offensive line, they've 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:57.239 got capable receivers, capable quarterback. We've seen running backs coming 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.759 this league and immediately make an impact. I don't think 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.520 this is the worst thing in the world. And I 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.120 think a guy like Darius Jackson has been here. He's 0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:05.960 not a you know, he's not a guy that's got 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.719 a ton of reps here, but he certainly has been here, 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.120 and so I think between him and those two young guys, 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.440 I think you got enough backs to where you can 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.719 make this thing go. Now. I'm also assuming that if 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.759 he gets suspended, this is like a short term thing. Yeah, 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:20.600 if if it turns into a six game, which I 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.480 don't think he will buy any means. But if it's 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.080 a long term thing, now you got a point. But 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.680 if you're talking a couple of games, I think he 0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.080 got what you need. You go with and you see 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.680 what happened. Let me ask the Cowboys historian here, when 0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.560 was the last time that a running back who wasn't 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.560 the top one hundred pick did that for this team 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.600 as a rookie? Just well period? But yeah, sure as 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:41.440 a rookie would be even better. Marion Barber, Yeah, how 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.279 long did it take him to do that? Actually? His 0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.480 rookie year? About the week five year Tony Collard. Yeah, 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.919 I mean, let's go. Yeah, but it was like week five, 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.440 It wasn't like week one. And he was different because 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.839 he was a barbarian. I mean he could run over people, um, 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.920 and he had a great Where was he picked? Um? 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.839 He it was in the fourth round. I would say, 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.279 you know, with there's two picks in the fourth round 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.359 that year. One of them was Canty, another one was him, 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.920 but I think he was the first one. Okay, all right, 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.200 but in that range of it was one hundred. I 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.200 mean I under like, I get running back value there. 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:21.799 You can find them all over the place. I know, 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.600 Jordan Howard, Philip lindsay, I get it. I haven't seen 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.279 it happen for this team in the time I've been here. 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.160 That didn't really matter for this team. I mean, if 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:32.600 it happens around the NFL, then it can happen well. 0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.759 But but what you have seen is you have seen 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.479 a third round pick set the Cowboys record for most 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.200 rushing yards in a season. You've also seen a guy 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.600 that was at the end of his career and was 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.719 pretty much washed up and with a one million a 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.040 year of salary finished third in the NFL and rushing 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.680 and Darren McFadden. So you've seen it with this team, 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.960 seen this offensive line, seen this offensive line help elevate 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.600 players to the best moments of their career. I'm a 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.359 big show me guy. I'm not from Missouri, but like 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.239 I not that's fair. I'm not ready to sit here 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.640 and say a seventh round pick and a fourth round 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.960 pick can carry the load even for like two games. Yeah, 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:09.759 I'm just not as worried about I think that for 0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.239 all those things I said, I think this team has 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.520 enough other weapons to where I think they they can 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.960 put those running backs in good positions to be able 0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.680 to be success. Remember this to say, you get Alfred 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:24.200 Morris and Zee comes back, do you want Alfred Morris 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:25.920 on your team? No, you're just kind of right, you 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.120 just kind of But also, the way the salary is 0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.440 that conscious whole salary is guaranteed for that year, the 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.480 whole year. If he's your week one, yep, how much 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.359 I mean this student's I love Alfred Morris to death. 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.759 How much do you think you're paying for him? But 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.440 you're paying for nothing at that point you sign him 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.080 to have you met Cherry like. He doesn't like to, 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:47.120 I mean, he doesn't like bad business. He signed that 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.680 guy to a vet minimum contract. He plays, he's on 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.399 the roster for two games, then you're that's fine, Okay, 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.680 we gotta get out of here. I'm so sorry, great conversation. 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.399 Appreciate you guys today. We'll be back next week. At 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.520 this at the normal time. I think next week will 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.239 be actually, no, it's gonna be on Thursday next week. 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.240 We'll give you more information. 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