1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. 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If you have any AHA moments 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: or appreciate anything from this epis, please leave us a 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghurspace dot com to access our 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: exclusive after show and other bonus content. From the Patreon tab. 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: women like you. 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: We're your hosts. 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: Doctor Dominique Bussard, a college professor and psychologist. 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 5: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 5: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 5: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 5: five Roads to fake friends, and create a safe space 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: where black women can just. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Be Hey, lady, it is doctor dom here from the 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Cultivating her Space podcast. Are you Are you currently a 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: resident of the state of California and contemplating starting your 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: therapy journey? Well, if so, please reach out to me 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: at doctor Dominique Brusard dot com. That's d R D 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: O M I N I q U E b r 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: O U ss ar D dot com to schedule a 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: free fifteen minute consultation. I look forward to hearing from you. 40 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 5: All right, lady, Today, we have a special guest that 41 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: we are super excited about. 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: Okay. 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 5: In addition to being a fellow Philly native, Abufofauna is 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: head instructor and founder of the Power Your Launch marketing 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 5: accelerator and host of the Powered af podcast, a podcast 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 5: for misunderstood visionaries. Aboo is the king of Facebook ads. 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 5: You've probably seen him around in these social media streets. 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: His ig is filled with inspiration and quotables, and he 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: is the man behind the brand of many of your 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: favorite women owned businesses. Get your pen, your paper, and 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: maybe some tissues because he's inspiring too. Okay, and let's 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: dive in. Aboo, welcome to Cultivating her Space. 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: Hey, first of all, that was an amazing introduction. 54 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 6: I'm like Dan. 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: Who did all that? So thank you for having me. 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here. 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, We're so excited to have you. 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I am so looking forward to this conversation. 59 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 7: So all right, our quote of the day. 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: You keep creating more because you're avoiding selling and marketing 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: your offer. Your problem is not the product or service, 62 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: it's actually selling and marketing, Aboo. I know. 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 7: You know this because these are your words. 64 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: So when you hear this quote, what was the context? 65 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: And I think the reason why I said that is 67 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: because I found that people spend so much of their 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: time creating their thing. They go into a cave. They'll 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: spend the next six months, the next. 70 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 6: Year, creating their thing. 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: They then create it, they launch it to the world, 72 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: and then there's this disappointment period that happened. It's sort 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: of like you climb to the top, then you're like, 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: wait a second, you know, was this even the right 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: mountain that you should have climbed? And so I think 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: that when it boils down to it and the reason 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: why I say that, and I know I was, you know, 78 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: shouting at a lot of people, it was like, you're 79 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: not spending the same level of effort on your marketing 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: and selling of the thing you just created, but you 81 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: spend all that time creating it, and so you have 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: to to be fair, you have to give it the 83 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: same level of effort and time that you did in 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: creating it. And so I think that's the message behind 85 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: that is you're in business to make sales, right, Like 86 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: that's in order to stay in business, you have to 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 3: make some level of sales. And so I think that's 88 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: why I wrote that, And I know a lot of 89 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: people got mad at me, but listen, I think it 90 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: was the truth, right, it was the truth. 91 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 7: It's a powerful quote. 92 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 5: I feel like as a creative I understand that process too, 93 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: because I love to create the new stuff. 94 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 4: But then when you have to actually do. 95 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 5: The work and like keep the momentum and get the sales, 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: sometimes it can be difficult. 97 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 4: Now, would you have such an inspiring story? 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 5: Can you please share with us your origin story and 99 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 5: what prompted you to create Power Your Launch. 100 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 6: Yes. 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: So, Power your Launch was really created from a time 102 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: where I had just left corporate and I was trying 103 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: to figure out what I wanted to do next. And 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: I was sitting in the kitchen and my mentor's place, 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: and you know, they both went to Harvard Business School, 106 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: Harvard Law and you know, so the trajectory was like, 107 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: you know, I'd be studying to get ready to go 108 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: to you know, an MBA program. But I didn't enjoy corporate. 109 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: And so the reason why I loved corporate and I 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: was working on Wall Street. 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 6: Was it just wasn't my thing. 112 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: Like, you know, everyone was wearing suits, like the problems 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: that we were solving. I really couldn't see the problems 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: that we were solving or the people that we were impacting. 115 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: So I think Power Launch started because while I was 116 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: working in corporate, I would always help people, whether it 117 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: was advertising, monetizing online, and so I said you know what, 118 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: what does it look like if I did this and. 119 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 6: Instead of maybe we're corporate? 120 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: And then I had to ask myself because my mentors 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: they said, well, yeah, I know what you're trying to do, but. 122 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 6: Like you should still get ready to go to business school. 123 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: And I said, well, what if I could help a 124 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: thousand people, If I could help a thousand people make 125 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: over a million dollars, do I still need to. 126 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 6: Go to business school? 127 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: And so I think that was my challenge early on, 128 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: is how could I make impact and help people grow 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: in their business use a lot of the skills that 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: I learned to help grow small business. 131 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 6: And the second thing was how do I. 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: Not go to corporate or go get my MBA and 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: sort of just like craft my own path. 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 6: At the same time, I. 135 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Love that the idea of figuring out how to craft 136 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: your own path and not taking the prescribed role road 137 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: right of saying, Okay, you know what, there's a different way, 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: and it's the road less traveled, but it's. 139 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 7: Still a road, so I'm going to take it. 140 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: And So, as you have been on this journey of 141 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: helping folks selling market, what are the biggest struggles that 142 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 1: you see for your clients. 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that as I'm helping people, some of 144 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: the biggest challenges I'm seeing my audience have and students 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: and clients have. The first thing is sort of like 146 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: this internal like this imposter syndrome of they don't believe 147 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: that they could do it, and they've also accepted other 148 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: limiting beliefs that people have told them. And so when 149 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: these two things happen, when you accept other people's beliefs, 150 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: you're in the box. And then when you don't believe it, 151 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: then you're even in a smaller box. And so I 152 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: think that's the biggest the biggest thing that I see 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: one of the biggest barriers. The other barrier that I 154 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: see is that people almost when when it comes to 155 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: marketing their product, they almost feel like. 156 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 6: It's beneath them. 157 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: Wait, so you want me to get on the phone 158 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: with my customer and say, yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. 159 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 6: You know, you want me to do this, you. 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: Know, spend three hours four hours a day. I'm like, well, 161 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: are you trying to make sales or are you not 162 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: trying to be in business? And so there's a different 163 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: level of hunger. When you're hungry, it doesn't matter what 164 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: it takes. You're going to feed yourself. And so I 165 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: think most people they're not hungry yet. They have ideas, 166 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: but they're not hungry. You have to have some level 167 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: of hunger when you decide you want to be in 168 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: business and pursue entrepreneurship. And then the third thing is 169 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: this level of education. They don't know what they don't know. 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: When I first got in the space of running advertisement 171 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: of understanding data, there wasn't a lot. 172 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 6: Of people that looked like me and a lot of 173 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 6: the people I hope are like me. 174 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: And so I said, well, how do I how do I, 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: now that I've been exposed to this, let them know 176 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: there's a better way to market your products that you know, 177 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: these platforms that we're using, the Facebook and Instagram, they 178 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: actually collect data on us. And as a business owner, 179 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: we could use this data to leverage it in order 180 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: to get in front of our customers. Like, how do 181 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: I teach them that, you know? 182 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 6: Because if I. 183 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: Just show them that the numbers and the data, they 184 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: may be like, wait, I'm not doing this. But if 185 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: I could show them the outcome of well, you could 186 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: reach a thousand new people. You can reach a million 187 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: new people. If you're on the East Coast, you can 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: get in front of your audience that live on the 189 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: West Coast and in the UK and so it again, 190 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: so it's the mental aspect trying to help them navigate 191 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: the educational component as well. So I think those are 192 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: sort of the biggest challenges I see entrepreneurs have, and 193 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: it's how do I get them to how do I 194 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: get them exposure into a new skill set, something that 195 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: they could utilize in order to grow and be successful. 196 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: That is so game changing too. 197 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 5: And I love the fact that you're so hands on 198 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: with your brand that someone might assume like, oh, he's 199 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: probably maybe he's not as successful as he is because 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 5: you'd be out here, like you'd be on the Lives, 201 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 5: you'd be having the conversations in the common section, the 202 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 5: DMS all that. So on your Instagram you talked about 203 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: how you quit your first job out of undergrad and 204 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: you documented that first thirty days. What did you learn 205 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: about betting on yourself during that time? 206 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when I left my my first job out 207 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: of undergrad, I was getting paid like sixty five thousand 208 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: dollars a year, and that was the most amount of 209 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: money in my family I've ever seen. My mom raised 210 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: seven kids on twenty eight thousand a year. And so 211 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: when I got that job, and you know, you tell 212 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: your mom and then the neighbor knows, and then everybody 213 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood found out right like it was a 214 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: big shot sixty five K year. And again we grew 215 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: up in a really poor neighborhood, so that was that 216 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: was a lot of money. 217 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 6: Everyone was rooting for me. 218 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: So I then decided I wanted to leave this job 219 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: because I didn't want to be there. 220 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 6: It wasn't my calling. 221 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 3: I started having this internal conflict that you know what, 222 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: you know, there's something more, but like outside the people 223 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: looking in they're like, what are you complaining. 224 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 6: About sixty five thousand a year. 225 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: You're able to take care of XYZ, but sixty five 226 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: k after taxes is like forty k. You know, then 227 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: if you have you know, student loans, you got contribute 228 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: to the fand maly like you really take it home 229 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 3: like fifteen or twenty k if you're not goot a budgeting, 230 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: et cetera. And so when I left that position, it 231 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: was it was the first time I stood up for 232 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: myself and I said, hey, this is something that I 233 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: want to do because my entire life, it was what 234 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: it was pushed upon me. You know, you have to 235 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: take care of your family, so you have to go 236 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: get this money, right. You have to do this because 237 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,119 Speaker 3: that's what's required of you and necessary for you to contribute. 238 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: When I left that, I was the first time I 239 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: was doing something for me. And so when I left, 240 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: I documented a series of thirty blog posts because I'm leaving, 241 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm walking away from this money. I didn't tell my 242 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: mom I was walking away. I didn't tell anyone for 243 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: eight months. Everyone still thought I had this job. But 244 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: I documented that because that was what I needed. 245 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 6: That was my journaling I was doing. 246 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: I needed a place to go and reflect, and so 247 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: every day I would like talk about how did it 248 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: felt and what I was doing, and hey, I'm working 249 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: out for five times or fifth time today because I'm 250 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: super stressed out in my anxiety a spike, you know. 251 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: But from those thirty block posts, what happened was I 252 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: sort of came to terms with that wasn't for me. 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: The other thing that happened is I posted this block 254 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: post on LinkedIn. You can still search for it on 255 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: LinkedIn today, and it was called thank you PwC for 256 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: raising me because I was working at Big four Price 257 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: Waterhouse Coopers. 258 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 6: And that black post went viral on LinkedIn. 259 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: So before you could go viral on LinkedIn, before these 260 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: people are writing all these thought pieces, that article that 261 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: block posts would that had my thoughts went viral. And 262 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: then from that specific blog post, I got thirteen job offers. 263 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: I got job offers from a center, like all these 264 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: people started reaching out. So I was like, oh, wait 265 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: a second, but I don't want to go back into 266 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: something I don't enjoy, because that's what those thirty days 267 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: are reflecting taught me. 268 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 6: Don't go back to things that you don't enjoy. 269 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: And so I think that's sort of how I came 270 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: to terms with Okay, there's something else out there for me, 271 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: and it was just me talking to myself. I wasn't 272 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: asking for anyone else's opinion, because sometimes when you ask 273 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: for too many opinions and you have too many cooks 274 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: in the kitchen, you start using ingredients and recipes. 275 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Is that. 276 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I doot preach it today. 277 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 7: Yes he is, Yes he is. I love that I love. 278 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: Someone once told me, you know that they don't ever 279 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: take a job. That is, they don't ever go to 280 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: a place that doesn't feed their spirit, and they don't 281 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: stay at a place where their spirit isn't fed. So 282 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: if they get to a point where their spirit no 283 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: longer feels fed, they know it's time to go. And 284 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,119 Speaker 1: that's what yours. That's what your story, your journey reminds 285 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: me of. Now I'm going to deviate from our questions 286 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: a little bit because as you were sharing your journey, 287 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I want to know. 288 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 7: I gotta know, right, So we're gonna get a little personal. 289 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: So part of going on this journey and taking you know, 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the road let's traveled, requires having to have those DIFFICULTI 291 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: conversations or it could be difficult conversations with those around us. Right, 292 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: So you shared that your family, this was your the 293 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: first time, like a lot of people in your community 294 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: were looking up to you because you were making big money, 295 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: you had that big corporate job. 296 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 7: Right. 297 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: What was the conversation like with your mom when you 298 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: told her, Mom, I quit, when you finally shared that 299 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: with it, because you kept it, you kept a secret 300 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: for eight months, So what was that conversation like when 301 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you finally shared that news with her and then told 302 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: her what you were venturing into? 303 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's a really good question. 304 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, that's why I waited eight months, 305 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: because I needed to find the thoughts and words. But 306 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: also I come from like African household, so. 307 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 6: Like, you know, you don't really you don't really do. 308 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: Those things spur the moment, right If something's wrong, then 309 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: you need you need to pray more, right like, And 310 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: so I think for me, the conversations were hard. When 311 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: I finally told my mom, like literally every day what 312 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: would happen. I would literally get dressed, put on my 313 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, business casual slacks, and leave out the house 314 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: every morning with her, and then I'd go to the 315 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: local coffee Starbucks or the local or Panera, and I'd 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: be there and I'd come back and and I was 317 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: a consultant, so I typically traveled, but I was like, oh, 318 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: I have a local project. You know, I got a 319 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: local project for the next few months, and you know, 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: I kept extending it. But I think what happened was 321 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: I started, you know, you know, by month like four 322 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: or five, I started getting out there, meaning I went 323 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: to the local we works and I would start helping 324 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs I'd go in there and I ask them, Hey, 325 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: you know I could do here my skill sets. Are 326 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: there any entrepreneurs that sort of or any businesses in 327 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: here that need that help? 328 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 6: And I started doing that. 329 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: And I thought that I was about to go and 330 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: be an entrepreneur full time. 331 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 6: But here's what happened. 332 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: By month seven, I get a phone call from one 333 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 3: of my peers and they said, hey, aboo, we are 334 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: building this thing, and I know you have experience in it. 335 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: Do you want to come to New York and work 336 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: on Wall Street and we'll pay you a lot of money? 337 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: And so I was like, okay. So I told my mom, Hey, 338 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm leaving companies, But again, I never had that discussion 339 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: with her. I didn't have that discussion with her until 340 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: the second job I left, and so I moved to 341 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: New York. I went from sixty five k a year, 342 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 3: I didn't work for eight months, and my new starting 343 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: salary was one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. 344 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 6: So here I am. 345 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: I went from sixty five to one hundred and thirty thousand, 346 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: and I started making more than all my peers. And 347 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: so I thought to myself for the first time, I said, 348 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: what changed, like, what how did I go from sixty 349 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: five to one hundred and thirty thousand dollars? 350 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 6: What changed? 351 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: And this is the first time of my life when 352 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 3: I realized, you don't get paid you know what you 353 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: think you're worth, right, Like, you don't get paid what 354 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: you think your value is, right, You get paid what 355 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: you can negotiate. 356 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 6: So I didn't want to go back to work. 357 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: I threw out a random number and they said okay, 358 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: and I was like, dang it, Okay. 359 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 6: I'll come out there and I will test this out. 360 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: And then I try to convince myself that, okay, maybe 361 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: it was just that last job. 362 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 6: Because now I was getting paid more money. 363 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: I was like, maybe it's just a last job that 364 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: I didn't like, you know, maybe you know, I like 365 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: this job even more. 366 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 6: I would find out later on. As soon as I 367 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 6: accepted that job. 368 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: The first day at that job, getting paid one hundred 369 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: and thirty thousand, I realized it wasn't the job, it 370 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: was me. The first day walking into the office, I 371 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I made the biggest mistake of my life. 372 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: That's when I knew my value wasn't also attached to 373 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: money anymore. I said it's not about the money that 374 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: holds me in the place, right, It's about there's something 375 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: bigger that's happening inside of me. So I went, I 376 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: doubled my salary in eight months, and I still decided 377 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: to leave this new job. And so then I had 378 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: the conversation with my mom and I was like, look like, 379 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: this isn't for me. 380 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 6: I've saved up capital. 381 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 3: I have a run rate of about six to eight months, 382 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: so I could go without. And I'm living in New 383 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: York City. It's a lot more expensive. And if it 384 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: doesn't work, okay, I could apply back to these jobs. 385 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: I got those thirteen job offers, right, I could reach 386 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: out to one of them. So I saw the worst 387 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: thing that could happen is I could end up back 388 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 3: where I was. And when that was the worst thing, 389 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: I said, well, what's the best thing that could happen? 390 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: And then I decided to just soar after that. 391 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 5: That is extremely powerfy, that is extremely inspiring at the 392 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: same time, but I think you it really led us 393 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: into another conversation here, and I want to jump into 394 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: a post that you shared on Instagram because I think 395 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: many of us flks that are listening and us included 396 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 5: we have income goals for ourselves ourselves, right, and I 397 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: think that you have reached the level of success that 398 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: many people aspire to. And so you posted on Instagram 399 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: recently about how it took you twelve years to make 400 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 5: three hundred k and two hours. 401 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay it one more time. I put the 402 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: people in. 403 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: The back just in case you didn't catch that it 404 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: took them twelve years to make three hundred thousand dollars 405 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: in two hours. Okay, Now with that in mind, is 406 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 5: there anything that you can tell folks who are in 407 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: pursuit of wealth that may not know or learn this 408 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 5: lesson unless they achieve it, right, because they're not even 409 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 5: there yet. What is something that you can share with 410 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 5: us now that you're on the other side. 411 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you know some of the things 412 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: I've learned about wealth. And I would even argue, you know, 413 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: when I made my first whether it was one hundred 414 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: thousand in my business two hundred a million dollars, I would. 415 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: Argue, it took me the length of more than ten years. Right. 416 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 6: It took me going through middle. 417 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 3: School, high school, right, getting a job college like, and 418 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: it takes a long time to get there. But I 419 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: think once you find a breakthrough. You know, this is 420 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: something that people always say, you only have to be 421 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: right once you try a bunch of things. You only 422 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: have to be right once in order to have this breakthrough. 423 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: Once you find a breakthrough, you then can capitalize on 424 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 3: it and you see yourself because you found alignment, right, 425 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: you found a positioning, you found something you're good at, 426 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: and you found something people are also willing to pay 427 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: you for. 428 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 6: So there's that intersection. And so once you have. 429 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: That, then you could start making a capital It's almost 430 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: you have to focus your efforts on making impact, adding value, 431 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: and getting people to see that value. Once those three 432 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: things aligned, then you start getting paid for it. And 433 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: the amount of money you can make now that is 434 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: really dependent on how you package a position, whatever it 435 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: is that you're really known for at that level, after 436 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: making you know, money and things like that. 437 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 6: I grew up in a very poor neighborhood. 438 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: So in the neighborhood I grew up and we never 439 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: talked about money because we never had any to talk about. 440 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: And so a lot of the things I learned around 441 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: money was self taught, right, A lot of it I 442 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: didn't learn it in the university. I've graduated from college, 443 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: a lot of us did. But you have no money 444 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 3: management skills. You have no idea how to even pay 445 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: your own taxes. You have no idea how to reduce taxes. 446 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: You have no idea. So a lot of these things 447 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: I had to learn through trial and error along that journey. 448 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: But some of the things I learned about money, and 449 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: I had to unlearn about money because I grew up 450 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: in a poor household and I thought you just held 451 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: on the money when you got it. But the only 452 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: way you make more money is you have to be 453 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: willing to invest in yourself and your education level in 454 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: order to get to the next level to be able 455 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: to make more money. Right, other things I learned about 456 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: money and now that I'm on this other side, is like, 457 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: you have to be able to budget. And the reason 458 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: why I say this, I don't care if you only 459 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: have one hundred dollars CNA. I don't care if you 460 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: have a million dollars to your name. If you don't 461 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 3: understand the concept of budgeting, you will always spend all 462 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: your money. I even people, my friends, my friends know. Okay, 463 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: bo Boo just posted our Instagram. He made you know 464 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars and twenty four hours, like we 465 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: going out and they reach out to me and I'm like, oh, 466 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: I don't have budget. I don't have the budget this 467 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: month because I honestly don't. So one of the things 468 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: I learned about money is like you need the people 469 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: around you in order to help you manage it. And 470 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: so I have an accountant and we set a budget. 471 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: She said, Okay, boo, here's your budget for the month. 472 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: If you go over this budget, then you know, you 473 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: can't take money out of these accounts because we set 474 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: them up this way where you can't just pull out, 475 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: you know, one hundred thousand dollars because you want to 476 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: buy a you know, a g wagon one day. 477 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 6: You know. 478 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: So we set these filters so I'm able to manage 479 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: my money better. I have a budget. So my budget 480 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 3: for eating out maybe you know, eight hundred dollars. So 481 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: for the month, I'm like, okay, you know, I went 482 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: out to. 483 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 6: Eat you know, two friends. 484 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: You know, that was four hundred dollars the bill, and 485 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: I got four hundred left if I go if I 486 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: hit that budget, I don't go over it. Yes, do 487 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: I have money for sure? Some of these places I'm 488 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: eating at. I could, I could probably buy the restaurant, 489 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: but it doesn't it's not a it's about really setting 490 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: this budget and saying, I am going to follow this 491 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: that I set for myself because I'm building something bigger. Right, 492 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: I may be trying to buy land in the future. 493 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: I may be trying to take care of family in 494 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: the future. So that's sort of how you know, money's 495 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: entered my life learning about money and sort of some 496 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: of the things I've learned over the last few years 497 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: as I've made more, more, more and more capital. 498 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: Thank you for that. 499 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 7: I love that. Yes, I love that lesson. 500 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: And so so you talked about like the lesson of 501 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: like money and budgeting, right, so I want to talk 502 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: about it. I like to talk about the feelings. 503 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 7: So how does it feel to be in this space 504 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 7: right now? 505 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 6: Right? 506 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Because you talk about how you grew up in the 507 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: community you grew up in, right, and now you're in 508 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: a space where you can buy the restaurant that you 509 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: dine at. 510 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 7: How does that feel? 511 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 6: I think for me it's it's a weird feeling. 512 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: It's a very weird feeling because it's not something I'm 513 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: used to. It's something I'm trying to make. I'm trying 514 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 3: to develop normalcy around by hanging out with other people 515 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: that made it normal, you know, to talk about money, like, 516 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: you know, to talk about a big purchase they had, 517 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: or to talk about the thirty thousand dollars vacation they 518 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: just did. 519 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 6: Now I'm trying to. 520 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: Make it normal around me by surrounding myself with people 521 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 3: like that, because it's still some distant, because it's a 522 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: lot of unlearning I have to do. Over the last 523 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: years is where I've built most of my capital and wealth, 524 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: and then the last even more years, I didn't have 525 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: any of that, and so I think I'm the feeling 526 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: is sometimes I'm like, is like was this supposed to 527 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: happen to me? Or am I deserving of this capital 528 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 3: and money? Or someone else is struggling? Should I spend 529 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: ten thousand on this trip? 530 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 6: Right? 531 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: So these are the things that I'm thinking because when 532 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: the household I grew up in, we thought about everyone 533 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: besides ourselves, like we were the last person we thought about. 534 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: So you always thought about, well, how is this person doing? 535 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: Can they afford this? Like how do we contribute? 536 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 6: You know? 537 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: So this was the mindset, but as I'm learning. I'm 538 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: sort of learning slowly how to enjoy the space that 539 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm in. You know, I was listening to this one 540 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: podcast and they were interviewing this guy and he was like, 541 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: there's three levels of wealth. Again, this is how he 542 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: viewed it. It's not how I viewed it, but he said, 543 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: the first level of wealth is you could go to 544 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: a restaurant and you don't have to worry about the price. 545 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: Just get me what's on the menu, right, like I 546 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: want that. The second level of wealth is you don't 547 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: have to worry about mortgage or rent. It doesn't matter 548 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: what it costs. It could be ten thousand dollars mortgage, 549 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. You don't have to worry about that. 550 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: The third level of wealth is you could plan a 551 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: forty eighty thousand dollars vacation the day before. And I 552 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I don't really look at. 553 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 6: The menu when I go to restaurants. I don't look 554 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 6: at prices no more. 555 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: Right, So it feels good to be like and then 556 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: people and the waiters always like, oh it costs. I'm 557 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: like it's all right, like you know, it's okay, Like 558 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: that's what I want. And so I think it's starting 559 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: to feel good. And the second reason and the thing 560 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: is last year I was to you're able to have 561 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: more impact. So last year I was able to donate 562 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: to a lot of nonprofits people that were you know, nonprofit. 563 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 3: I was helping, you know, first time black mothers, because 564 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 3: you know that's I resonate with that, that's my story, right, 565 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: I helped the nonprofit, I was helping homelessness, you know. 566 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: So being able to write fifty thousand dollars checks, you know, 567 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 3: to nonprofits to help people, I think is the best 568 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: feeling because you're like, man, how else would they. 569 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 6: Have been able to raise that? Or now I'm able 570 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 6: to help them reach their goal. 571 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: You know, I'm able to do something that benefits me 572 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: and others at the same time. 573 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 6: And so I think it feels really good. It feels 574 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 6: really good. 575 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 5: Those are extremely powerful Nuga Taboo and would you tell 576 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 5: us about the Powered AF podcast and what prompted you 577 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 5: to start your podcast. 578 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's been a long time coming. You know, 579 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 3: I'm behind y'all. I'm still I'm still trying to catch 580 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: up to y'all. But the Powered AF podcast was something 581 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: that I had wanted to start for like the last 582 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: few years, I just never could convince myself that it 583 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: was needed until I started, and until I got to 584 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: where I am, and I was like, man, I wish 585 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: I would have documented every step of the process to 586 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: making money and to building wealth, right, And now I'm 587 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: around all these people who have built wealth, and I'm like, 588 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: I wish I could put a microphone in the room 589 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: so they could see how they think. They could see 590 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: the questions they asked. They could see that they didn't 591 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: start where they are. They Actually there's an origin story, 592 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: right they you know, they were really poor. Money wasn't 593 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: talked about in their household, but now they're, you know, 594 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: the most financially savvy person. Because I think sometimes people 595 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: judge based on where someone is today and they try 596 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: to judge their life. If their life is ten steps back, 597 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: they sort of need to see, well, where were they 598 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: ten steps to go? 599 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: Where where I was? 600 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: And so I started the Power dayf podcast to really highlight, 601 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: you know, some of these top performers, visionaries, entrepreneurs, and 602 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: highlight some of the challenges they're overcoming, imposter syndromes that 603 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: they're having to in order to achieve their highest level 604 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: of success, and that looks completely different for them, right 605 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: based on what they were what they're trying to achieve. 606 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: And so I've been putting up microphones around the people 607 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: that I'm around and say, hey, yeah, all that thought, Okay, 608 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: let's let's have a conversation, let me set up the mics, 609 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: let's have the conversations, let's document this because I think 610 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: it could help a lot of other people. I think 611 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: the mistake that you think is small is actually could 612 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: help someone that could trigger something in someone in order 613 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 3: to really help them. And so that's you know, the 614 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 3: power day of podcasts and why I started it. And 615 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking to document more stories and video and audio 616 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: format and really build a high quality production studio essentially 617 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: in major cities rocket bring people in and really get 618 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: and record this content. So that's my goal for it 619 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: for the next like twelve months ahead. 620 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: That is so incredible. I'm already a fan. I've been 621 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: tuning in on Instagram. So, okay, Robert, we're rooting for 622 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: you over here. 623 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: And now that you've dropped some gems ABU, we kind 624 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 5: of want to shift up the energy of this conversation 625 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 5: if that's okay with you, So we recognize, appreciate, and 626 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: celebrate the multifacet woman. And we believe that it's okay 627 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 5: to be classy and ratchet. We believe you can still 628 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 5: be elegant and dance to shrip club music. And so 629 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: we want to invite you to our oh you clash 630 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: it segment. So do you do on the challenge? 631 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 6: Yes? 632 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, So now that you've agreed, we're going to 633 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: tell you what you signed up for. 634 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 4: Wa So we're going to ask you three questions. 635 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: We're going to share three sentence completions, and then we're 636 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: going to have you choose a photo one to three. 637 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 4: These are photos of you that you are not. 638 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 5: Aware of, so you just have to see what pops 639 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: up on screen and tell us the context behind the 640 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 5: photo or what was happening that we may not know 641 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 5: based on the photo that you that you choose. 642 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 4: Are you ready? 643 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 6: Yes? I am ready. 644 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 4: All right, let's do it. 645 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 5: So you dropped so many gems on Instagram you I mean, 646 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: I want to meet your mentor because you reference your 647 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 5: mentors often and you just dropped so many gems. What's 648 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: the best piece of advice or wisdom that you've ever received? 649 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 6: Ah Man, This is tough so many. 650 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: I was just talking to one of my friends and 651 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: he had said something that resonated, and he said, you know, 652 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: the I'm trying to I'm not trying to butcher it either, 653 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: so I'm trying to like look at. 654 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 6: The wording for it. 655 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: But he had said, you know, he said, you know, 656 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: what people don't understand is that the easiest lane is 657 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: your lane. 658 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 6: And when he. 659 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: Said that, I was like, that's so true because a 660 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: lot of times people see people doing something and they 661 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: start copying and then they get frustrated, right, but they 662 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: don't realize that's not your lane. That's why it's not 663 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: working for you. So you have to find that the 664 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: quickest path of success is finding your path, you know. 665 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: And so that that quote, you know, always resonated with me, 666 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: you know, since I heard it just a few weeks ago. 667 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 7: I love it. 668 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: I take that. 669 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: Okay, our next question changing up, changing it up, So 670 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: you got to be ready. 671 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 6: For this one. I'm ready. 672 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 7: So when you out here on your vacation or maybe. 673 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: It's just a regular Tuesday, I don't know, are you 674 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna twirk or two steps? 675 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 6: Right? I'm going a two step. I'm a two step. 676 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 7: We'll take it. 677 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: Good answer, good answer now, as you can probably guess. 678 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: But we have a lot of women guests on the podcast, 679 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 5: so these questions are don't care our audists, but hey, 680 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 5: you're you sign up for all you clatch, we want 681 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 5: to have some phone with you. 682 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: What is the sexiest item you own? 683 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 6: Oh? 684 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: Man, that's that's tough because I don't. I don't own 685 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: many things. Like I went minimalist a few years back, 686 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: I would probably say I just bought some easy phone runners. 687 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: So you know everyone's been digging them, you know, ladies, 688 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: it's not kind of having a dog, right, People always 689 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: stop you ask you about it exactly. 690 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: That's a good one. I loved it, Okay, I love 691 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: it all right. 692 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: So now we're going to move to our sentence completions. 693 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 6: Okay. 694 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: One question or topic I wish people ask me more 695 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: about about more often is mental health? Okay, Boom, you 696 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: set yourself up for this. You know you talk so 697 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: we here, so so Boom, what about mental health do 698 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: you want to share with our audience? 699 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 6: I think that you know. 700 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: And the reason why I say that is because being 701 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: an entrepreneur invisible and social media just showing you instagram 702 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 3: able moments of winds or million dollar sales or a 703 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: million dollar months. There's a side that like is dark 704 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 3: and it's you know, there's not a space where it's 705 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 3: normal to talk about it. A lot of my friends, 706 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 3: it's like the late nights at like two three am, 707 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: you know, where they're you know, after you know, they're 708 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: tired or they're like, oh yeah, this is what going on. 709 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: And I'm like, why don't you speak up? You know, 710 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: why don't you say something? Why don't you say you 711 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 3: need help or you need to be supported in this way? 712 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: And it's like, well, that's not instagrammable, you know, like 713 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: you know that, you know, do people even want to 714 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: hear about that? 715 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 6: You know? You know, a family told me, I need 716 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 6: to pray more, I need to go to church. I 717 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 6: don't need a therapist, you know. 718 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: So I think these moments are you know, I wish 719 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: people talked about it more. 720 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 6: And that's why I say that I. 721 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 5: Love that and I agree with you about mental health. Yeah, 722 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 5: thank you for sharabu our last sentence completion is what 723 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 5: I love most about myself is. 724 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 6: The understanding I try to have with people. 725 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: You know, I try to meet people where where they're 726 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: at and I think that's you know, it's a double 727 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 3: edged sword. But you know that that's what I enjoy 728 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: about myself because sometimes it turns into something even more 729 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: right and other times, you know, you could get taken 730 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 3: advantage of et cetera. But I mean, there's all there's 731 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: risks associated with anything you know, you do in life, 732 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: any decision you make. So I think you know just 733 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 3: my understanding and trying to meet people where they are beautiful. 734 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 5: Answer, we love it, We love it all right, our book, 735 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 5: and we have a photo, a couple of photos if 736 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: you pulled up from your Instagram, and we want you 737 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 5: to choose a number from one to three and then 738 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: provide more context on the given photo. 739 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 4: So choose your number and we'll let you see the photo. 740 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 6: Let's go with one. 741 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 4: Number one, all right, I think you might like this one. 742 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 4: Get ready to get ready, and here we go. 743 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 5: So for those that are listening and not tuning in, 744 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 5: feel free to describe the photo and then tell us 745 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 5: something about this photo that we wouldn't know just by 746 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 5: looking at the photo. 747 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this photo specifically, this was I did a 748 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: summer program at Harvard Business School CALLSBNP, and I think 749 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 3: this photo was you know, a bunch of people applot. 750 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: There were like one hundreds thousands of students that applied 751 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: and ate I think that year I got accepted, like 752 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: about eighty four got admitted. 753 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 6: And I think you know this, And it was you know, 754 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 6: people that were always told. 755 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: In their lives that they were special, right, that they 756 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: were gonna, you know, do great things. So now you 757 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: take eighty four of those people, you put them all 758 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: in the same room. So in this photo, this was 759 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: the first after the first day, everyone you know, all 760 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: the same room, and I'm looking around, I'm like, dang, 761 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: do I belong here? 762 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 6: Because everyone was just as. 763 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 3: Accomplished, just as smart, just as you know, you know, driven, 764 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: just as ambitious, just as and so I think I 765 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 3: took I took this photo on our walk back, and 766 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: I was and then so that. 767 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 6: Was what was happening behind the scenes as I took 768 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 6: this photo. 769 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 4: I love then that opportunity. 770 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we just want to thank you for your 771 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: time and your energy and your expertise. And I know, 772 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know that so many of 773 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: our listeners are going to appreciate all of the gems 774 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: that you have dropped with us. So where can they 775 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: find you on social media and what's coming up next 776 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: for you and your brand? 777 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 6: Yeah? 778 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: No, First of all, thank y'all for having me. This 779 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: was really really great. This is really fun and interactive 780 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: as well. I really love that. I think what's next 781 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 3: for me is trying to figure out how do I, 782 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 3: you know, build a life and then have that business 783 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: not be my life, right, So I think that's what 784 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out these next six to twelve months, 785 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: to see what that looks like, because I get so 786 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: consumed in business that I forget to sort of live 787 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 3: and enjoy the things that I'm producing, right, And so 788 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: I think it's redesigning my life through the businesses that 789 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: I build and focusing on growing the podcast as well. 790 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 6: Howady have podcasts? 791 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: So again, for those listening in, you can find me 792 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: on Instagram at a Boufolkfauna that's a bu fof a 793 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: NH or on Twitter at the Boufolkfauna as well. 794 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 6: And you can engage with me there. You can DM. Me. 795 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 6: May not respond back right away because I got hundreds. 796 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: All the every day, but I will try to work 797 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: my way through it and get back to y'all as well. 798 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: Amazing. We appreciate it. And lady, make sure you check 799 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 5: out the power You're Launch Marketing Accelerated. I am a 800 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 5: student in the course. The course is really helpful, so 801 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 5: do that in power AF podcast as well. 802 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, you kind of get the vibe here. 803 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 5: As you can see, we have an amazing audience of 804 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 5: black women across the globe and you kind of understand 805 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: what our mission is here. And so we'd love to 806 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 5: know who do you think would be the best next 807 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 5: interview for us and if you'd be open to making 808 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 5: an introduction. 809 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. 810 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 3: I mean there's a million that came to my mind 811 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: because I'm around them all the time. I would say 812 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 3: Kiara of Charm City Buyers. I don't know if you're 813 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: Charm City Buyers. Kiara is really good one. You can 814 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 3: lock her down. I know she's doing a million things, 815 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: even Emily, but Emily is doing a million things. But yeah, 816 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: I definitely make some intros. Let me look at what 817 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: their schedules like. But I can make intros the group 818 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: of them and then hopefully we catch one of them. 819 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 4: Awesome, Thank you so much. 820 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 7: We appreciate that. 821 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 6: Not a problem. 822 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 8: Hey, lady, it's Terry here from the Cultivating her Space podcast, 823 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 8: I'm hosting a free podcasting masterclass where I'm going to 824 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 8: teach you how to create your impactful podcast and how 825 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 8: you can generate multiple streams of income. You can visit 826 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 8: podcast with Terry dot com to register for free. I 827 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 8: hope to see you there. 828 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today. 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