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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. Paul Rudd knows one of

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Speaker 1: our names. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL broadcast presented by the United States Marine Corps. My

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthalf.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? This is the one time of

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Speaker 1: the week I really feel alive, so it's good to

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Speaker 1: share it with you. I've just been like a husk

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Speaker 1: Friday mornings to do this together. That's that's an enjoyable factor,

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Speaker 1: and it should be noted just to provide clarity. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The name that Paul Rodd knows is the old juser himself,

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansas, big fan of my work, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and already have a third person reference. So we are

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Speaker 1: on brand and firing um with power today. Welcome. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is the week thirteen preview. I can't believe we've

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Speaker 1: made it here. I legitimately can't believe that we've gotten

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Speaker 1: week twelve just did just end. So we are in

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Speaker 1: a very strange world of the NFL. Uh, something that

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Speaker 1: ride with a madness, right, Greg, No, I'm hoping to

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Speaker 1: do this every year. Um, I hoping pandemics just in

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Speaker 1: you did, this was something that you had asked for. This,

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Speaker 1: It's funny with the pandemic did because Mark had asked

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Speaker 1: And we're now going to go through each of the

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Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray doesn't have the juice right now, I'm

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00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 1: locking up the Rams. Take care of business, knocked the

428
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Speaker 1: Cardinals out of the division race and maybe even the playoffs,

429
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 1: and away we go. You're locking him up to Greggy.

430
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and by the way, what do you mean

431
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 1: I picked the Cowboys for entertainment value. The Rams are

432
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: like the exact same amount of being a favorite as

433
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were last week. Not much. It's it's like

434
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 1: there's a difference. You get teams. It would this Cardinals

435
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 1: won one game in five weeks, one game in five weeks.

436
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: This Cardinals team. I love Jalen Ramsey to shut down

437
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins. They're not the same team when that happens,

438
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: like Gilmore shut him down last this week. Just remember

439
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: the Boys, enjoy it. Just remember viewers and listeners. I

440
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 1: lucked up the Cowboys for you for entertainment. But now

441
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: it's serious. They were favorite, They were favorite at home.

442
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Let's not accre that active courage. Alright, Alright, enough funny

443
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: business snakes to the oh. I'm feeling good about this pick,

444
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Saints at Falcons, and I can't believe it. I thought

445
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: Greg would take this with a second overall pick, and

446
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: if he didn't take that, he'd take the Rams Cardinals.

447
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think i'd ever get the NFC South showdown

448
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: between the Saints and Falcons, your favorite rivalry and football,

449
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: And yet here we are, Mr Rosenthal, And here's here's

450
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: a crazy stat that I think goes under the radar

451
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I think it's time to credit

452
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: Sean Payton a little bit more. Uh, the Saints have

453
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: one at least six straight games and each of the

454
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: last four seasons. Like that's incredible. That is a great

455
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: run of just every year in and year out being

456
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: a big time team. And I believe one of the

457
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: an eight game winning streak right now. Um, and now

458
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: they get the Falcons, who obviously our frisky as heck

459
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: right now, we saw what they did. They embarrassed the

460
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: Raiders last week, and and they got beat by the

461
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: Saints a few weeks back, and now they get a rematch.

462
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: And to me, two things to look for here. Number

463
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: one on the Falcon side, Julio Jones, he's practicing at

464
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: the time of his taping. He's got the hamstring issue.

465
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: When you look at the numbers, it's it's obvious that

466
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: Matt Matt Ryan without Julio Jones, his offense is mediocre

467
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: at best. With Julio Jones, it is a very good offensive.

468
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: Julio plays, that's a big challenge for the Saints. If

469
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't, this feels uh lopsided. Then again, the other

470
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: point here, Mark is Taysom Hill start three. Um. Obviously

471
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: the game plan when totally out the window on some

472
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: level because they played the Broncos without a quarterback last week.

473
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Taysom Hill didn't look like

474
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback even though that was his position. We get

475
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: to see how he looks gets an opponent that's playing

476
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: well the youngery uh foul coins. Yeah, I mean it's

477
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill might be playing himself out of a future

478
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: starting job. I think it's you know, the Saints and

479
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is excellent with backup quarterbacks over the past

480
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: two years, undefeated with him, So there's that. Um, it's

481
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: the Saints defense though they have allowed one touchdown in

482
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: the past four games. I mean, their pressure rate has

483
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: doubled over the past four games. But this Falcons defense

484
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: with Raheem Morris at head coach, have gone from eighteenth

485
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: and Greg loves the d v o A s from

486
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: eighteen to third in defensive d v o A. So

487
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: I think this, you know, this is an interesting matchup.

488
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: I have extreme confidence in what I'm about to do

489
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: though right here and I've gone and checked with the

490
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: little men in the desert and this checks out heartily.

491
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: With no concern. I'm gonna be locking up the New

492
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints and you can say whatever you want about it. Boys,

493
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think they're kind of at

494
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: the level of the Chiefs right now that any time

495
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: you get a chance to lock them, you should um.

496
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: But they're not favored by much because they don't have

497
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean they this game is expected to

498
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: be as closer, closer than Ram's Cardinals. I don't think

499
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: that's giving the Saints enough credit because of the match

500
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: up here. I I didn't draft this game because it

501
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: was such a dud last time around. The Saints defensive

502
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: line was so dominant against the Falcons offensive line. Cameron

503
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: Jordan has the all time record of sacks against the

504
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: quarterback because he just is in Maddie ICE's face every

505
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: single snap. But it's not just Cameron Jordan's. It's Trey Hendrickson,

506
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: It's Rankins when he's healthy, it's it's everybody. It's Marcus

507
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: Davenport if he plays this week, it's David anya Mada

508
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: getting pressure. They've had no chance. They sacked him like

509
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: crazy when they played the Thanksgiving a year ago. Weird

510
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: things happen when teams played twice in three weeks, and

511
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: weird things happen when these two teams play, So it

512
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't totally shock me if a frisky team, frisky Falcons

513
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: team makes this close. But the Saints are the best

514
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: team in the league right now. I really believe that

515
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: they don't have a passing game, so I don't trust

516
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: them like the Chiefs without their quarterback back. But other

517
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: than that, they're the best team in the league. They

518
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: are according according to next Gen Stats, they're running the

519
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: ball nearly seventy of the time right now. And Greg,

520
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: you I think there was some validity to it. You

521
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: called that, you called out my comments about Alvin Kamara

522
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: essentially being a race from this offense and the fact

523
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: that he's also my number nine overall pick in my

524
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: League of Record and Fantasy. Yeah, of course, I'm a

525
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: real person, So that's gonna shade I guess some of

526
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: my analysis throw me in jail. But at the same time,

527
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: isn't it a little bit weird, a little bit weird

528
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: that Alvin Kamara is your best player on the team

529
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: and now you have an offense where you're not really

530
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: using him anymore. It's two weeks two weeks and they

531
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: won games by so much that I just I don't

532
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: think it's meaningful yet. I just said he's been targeted

533
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: on of his routes with Hill. It was at thirty

534
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: seven with Breeze. Maybe it's small sample size, so let's see,

535
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: let's see what happens here. But I think Alvin Kamara

536
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: needs to be a big part of the Now there's

537
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: another part of this too. Alvin Kamara has a foot issue.

538
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they're protecting him right now. So there's too much

539
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: to really draw conclusions on. But at the same time,

540
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: like this offense needs to I think feature Alvin Kamara

541
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: because this Taysom Hill thing. It just seems I don't

542
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: know I would say this. I think Paon cares, Sean

543
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Payton cares very much about fantasy football and your fantasy team, Dan,

544
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: So I you know, I think you're gonna see. It's

545
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: not just no, it's everyone. People are going nuts. I

546
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: gotta say that again. Millions and millions of Alan Kamara

547
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: fantasy owners are like, what is happening right now? This

548
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: is that and you're representing them. Well, it's too bad

549
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Mark's not watching this game because this one, this is

550
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of pressure living on Taysom Hill

551
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: playing this Falcons team. It's just the rest of you know,

552
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: you got you got young Waiku leading his fantasy teams

553
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: to glory every week. You got Kian O'Neil, you got

554
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: a Lua Khan on the Falcons diva. You never know,

555
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: it's Mark putting him off on the line, putting his

556
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: heart on the line with Taysom Hill in a big spine.

557
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: I largely feel nothing inside at this point in the season,

558
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: so like, let's you know, I'll be okay. I think

559
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: there's some slight projecting going on there. Time now for

560
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: a road to victory presented by the United States Marine Corps.

561
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: Big Game here. I like this game, kind of a

562
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: sneaky good game. Bills Niners Mark a Bill's team eight

563
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: and three, feeling good. Beat the Chargers team and not

564
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: the most impressive way, but listen, they're they're really set

565
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: up well to win their division. And then on the

566
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: other side the Niners. Who man, we like the Niners

567
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: around these parts, especially this team. Yeah, I don't think

568
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: it's sneaky good. I you know, we've had enough of

569
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Eagles. Um at the nighttime let's

570
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: let's get some real games here. This is intriguing. Uh.

571
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: You know the football gods, they riddled the Niners with injuries,

572
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: Corona did its thing and instead now they're getting healthy.

573
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean watching Deebo Samuel back in the lineup last

574
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: week and what that did for their offense against the Rams.

575
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: He was all over the place. Now you got Brandon

576
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: i youth back, Raheem Mustered is back. They I'm looking

577
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: at this and saying this is the team that could

578
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: supersede the Arizona Cardinals and jump into the playoffs. It's

579
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: not crazy. Uh. Nick Mullins would be the X factor

580
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: there because he seems to do two things a game

581
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: that totally shadow your chances of winning. UM. But they found,

582
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: especially with this defense, is so well coached. It's so

583
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: well coached, and they're they're they're they're so active and

584
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: what they did against Jared Goff gave me so much faith. UM.

585
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I think this is an incredible matchup Greg. They are

586
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: so well coached. It's really amazing because they have gotten healthier.

587
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: On the back end, you have Richard Sherman. Their linebackers

588
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: are healthy now and that's great, but their defensive line

589
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: are mostly guys that they had no interest in playing

590
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: to start the year. Carrie Hyder has numbers that you

591
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: would have expected out of Nick Bosa. Carry Hyder has

592
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: been on four or five teams. He's a good player,

593
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: always underrated. But they are so cohesive, and that could

594
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: be a problem for Josh Allen, who I keep banging

595
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: the drum, makes a few decisions every game that makes

596
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: you worried they're not gonna have John Brown in this game.

597
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: There they ran the ball better, and I think that's

598
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: the way to beat the Rams, I mean the forty

599
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: niners rather ultimately, and so that's big for Buffalo if

600
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: they can have some balance. I don't think they necessarily

601
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: want to be throwing the ball forty times a game

602
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen moving late into December. As explosive as

603
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: they are, it's almost better to be balanced, to have

604
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: a change up, And ultimately, I do think they have

605
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: more talent than the San Francisco team. Yeah, I'm with

606
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: you on that point You've been making about Alan because

607
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: it seems like, like clockwork, there's gonna be one throw

608
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: that's put up for grabs and one time he puts

609
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: it on the carpet uh in the pocket, and it's like,

610
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: can you take advantage of those opportunities? The Chargers last

611
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: week didn't. I think they had um three turnovers in

612
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: the span of about seven plays in the fourth quarter

613
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. But the Charger is such a mess

614
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: that they don't know how to, uh, you know, accept

615
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: gifts from other people. So well, the Niners, uh, I

616
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: feel like they're a better team, a better coach team,

617
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and I think they would take avantage of that. The

618
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: other thing with San Francisco, yes, Nick Mullins is a

619
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: grab bag. He sometimes will look like the worst quarterback

620
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: in the league. Other times he'll look totally competent. Brandon

621
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Ayu is gonna be back here and he's obviously a

622
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: big time playmaker. And then Deebo Samuel is one of

623
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: my favorite players to watch in the league because he's

624
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: just one of those dudes where when the balls in

625
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: his hand, I almost said, by the way, one of

626
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: those cats. I don't but I don't like when people

627
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: say cats. I don't know. I feel like it's a way,

628
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: it's a cool one of those cats. He put the

629
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: ball in his hand and he just looks different. I

630
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: mean he's just a special cat. No, I'm calling him

631
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: a dude, and I feel like anyway, So when he

632
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: has the ball and says he looks different, he's built different,

633
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: He's thick, but he's fast, and he he runs through tackles.

634
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: And because Kyle Shannon's a genius son at this thing,

635
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: he finds the way to get the ball in his hands.

636
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: So as long as Nick Mollins doesn't implode, I really

637
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Speaker 1: like the Niners in this game. I think the Niners

638
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna be around in December. Market think prematurely forked them

639
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night a few weeks we did. I wasn't

640
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: a part of that Niners fans They're coming at me

641
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: sometimes until I was like, look, I wasn't on that podcast.

642
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have forked. Kyle sant you deserve you deserve that.

643
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: But Dan, that was premature on our part. We might

644
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: that means we have to give money to a certain

645
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: charity of our picking. Charity is a wide term. Yeah,

646
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: So I think the Niners win this game. How about that?

647
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Out anybody with me? I took the Bills by a

648
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: point uh in this game, But I do think that

649
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: there This is the first game with Ayuk, Moster and

650
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: Devo since Week six, and it's a big test for

651
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the Bills defense, who I thought played their best game

652
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: of the season. That's why I'm taking the Bills. I

653
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: think their defense might be rounding into form and that

654
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: makes that gives them a few more routes to win.

655
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: I think this is the beginning of San Francisco's playoff run.

656
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I would say, like, yummy, yummy, put this game in

657
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: my tummy. I'm all about the Niners at night. I'm

658
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: tired of bad primetime matchup. I love the San Francisco

659
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: forty Niners. They're gonna win this game and went away.

660
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: Lock it up. Then you can always change your locks.

661
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: You can move off the team on the eight game

662
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: winning streak for you know this game if you want.

663
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: You know what the narratives whenever I pick a lock,

664
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: the narratives are absurd, and the deep studies show that

665
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: my locks are are absolutely legit. I'm gonna stick with

666
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: my lock. All right, there you go. That was Road

667
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: to Victory presented by the United States Marine Corps. All right, next,

668
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: let's let's knock out the other off schedule game. This

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Speaker 1: is not this is not the Monday Night Football branded game,

670
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: So do not dare connect that to the celebrated ESPN,

671
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: ABC Disney property. Okay, this is Washington football team at

672
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers four and seven eleven and oh but guess what?

673
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: These are two teams battling for a division title. The

674
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Steelers obviously in great position right now, Mark Sessler, uh,

675
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: and have a chance to make history. But we're coming

676
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: off a game, uh against the Ravens on Wednesday that

677
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: was by no means a piece of our it by

678
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: the ray Steelers, especially on offense. Do you did you

679
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: do you give him any pass for the way things

680
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: played out on Wednesday? I kind of do. I mean,

681
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: so much happened in the lead up to that. I'm

682
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: not good at a lot of things on Wednesday, so

683
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I I understand how that goes. Uh. You know it's

684
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I think this though a couple of weeks ago you

685
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: would have said, Uh, Pittsburgh walks away with this thing.

686
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm watching Washington kind of grow into a bit of

687
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: a dangerous operation here. And I you know, Greg, we

688
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: covered that Thanksgiving about with Dallas where the Cowboys were embarrassed.

689
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: I thought by young Turner Scott Turner coming up with

690
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: a lot of trick plays. Our guy, I mean Logan Thomas,

691
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: he you know, listen, he's he's he's a he's a

692
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: property on the rise. I love a lot watching Logan

693
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Thomas of late. He had you know, he's got wildcat carries.

694
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: He had a twenty yard pass to Terry mclauren. I mean,

695
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: he's doing all sorts of stuff, and they're coming up

696
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: with creative ways to get people open. I think Antonio

697
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Gibson is becoming one of the more intriguing backs in

698
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: the league. So this is a challenge for Pittsburgh, you know,

699
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: in another weird set up to a game, because these

700
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: teams like to do the same thing every week, and

701
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: it's like, now you practice from Wednesday to to Monday.

702
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: That's that's odd. So I I think, you know, the Steelers,

703
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: they can clinch a playoff birth with a win here,

704
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: so they're gonna be focused. Um, I would expect a

705
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: better showing. I think this is gonna be a big

706
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: potential problem for Pittsburgh. I look at the matchup and

707
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: the way their offensive line is struggling. They had one

708
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: of the worst days of the season on Wednesday. They

709
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: not only lost Bud Dupree, their great pass wresher for

710
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: the season. They lost their center Pouncey to the COVID list.

711
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: He's probably not gonna be back for this game. They've

712
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: they're coming off a short rest. The Washington football team,

713
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: who's the most fun Washington team I've watched since Clinton

714
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: Portis and Jim Zorn and Jason Campbell were running around.

715
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: Gets better every week, and they have some rest. I

716
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: think you're feeling the weight of the season if you're

717
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Not just the way of coronavirus that

718
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: we're all feeling. And their team has also been hurt

719
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: by stefan to it is out, but the injuries and

720
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: the undefeated record. You know, they were so miserable after

721
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: that win, after beating the Ravens, saying it wasn't good

722
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: enough and it was j V and they're not happy.

723
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: It's like you see this every time there's an undefeated

724
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: team in December. It's just like it's heavy, it's miserable,

725
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: and meanwhile, you got a Washington team with Alex Smith.

726
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Give it to me, give me the upset. I'm picking

727
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: Washington to win this game on my game picks. Check

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00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: that out. NFL dot Com slash game picks. I need

729
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: some joy in twenty. How about Alex Smith doing a

730
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: postgame interview at like five pm Pacific on a Monday

731
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: afternoon after he takes out the last undefeated team in

732
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the league. That's what I want. Give it to me.

733
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. There's honestly no such thing as

734
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: a joyful zoom call even. I mean, it doesn't matter

735
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: post game. It'll be the post game on never network.

736
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: This is even on UM. All you need to know

737
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: is that is not ESPN and it is not their property.

738
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Speaker 1: All right. No, Uh, here's the here's the counter to that.

739
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: The pouncy things a big deal. And yes, Ben was

740
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: under pressure on Wednesday. I think he threw the ball

741
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: fifty one times, which is crazy. Uh, and he wasn't

742
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: sacked once. And it's all because this new Ben Roethlisberger where,

743
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: according to Next Gen stats, fastest in the league, time

744
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: to throw in terms of seconds, highest in the league,

745
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: quick pass percentage third highest, yards under passes under ten yards.

746
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: So he gets the ball out, So it's gonna negate.

747
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: The real to me strength of the Washington defense more

748
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: than anything else, which is their front seven. And then

749
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: the ability of that front seven to wreak havoc on

750
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback in the pass rush. So while I really

751
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: do admire the onions, uh, Greg, of you picking the

752
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: Washington football team, I don't want to sell the undefeated

753
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: Steelers short here. I think it could just as easily

754
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: go the other way and this game gets away from

755
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: Washington and Steelers the Steelers romp. I could see that

756
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: as an outcome as well. Is that something that you

757
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: can't see as an outcome? It's possible. But I like fun.

758
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you don't. You just like boring

759
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: old undefeated teams marching Ford. I like Alex Smiths, the Patriots,

760
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, I like Antonio Gibson, I like Terry McLaren.

761
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just like the boring old Steelers. I mean,

762
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: if you're feeling no, I'm not locking this up please. Well,

763
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: so it's so you put it in. You put something

764
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: on NFL. I put a lot of things on NFL

765
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: dot com that no one will ever have any concept

766
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: that happened. So let's see how that works. All right,

767
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Let's move on, Greg, continuing in the draft. You're up next,

768
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: all right, I got the Colts and the Texans. This

769
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: is how I expected the draft to go. I really

770
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: plotted out. I said, they're gonna leave this one for me.

771
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: I like that. In the morning, I get to watch

772
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: a little Deshaun Watson. I get to watch my Colts

773
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: against a compromise Texans team. Let's let's be real, not

774
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: just without Will Fuller, but Bradley Roby was playing good

775
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: at cornerback. So there's two suspensions I think really hurts them,

776
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: and I think their weakness on defense stopping the run

777
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: in Houston really helps out Indianapolis. They are a totally

778
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: different team the Colts when they can run the ball.

779
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's off the COVID nineteen list. It just sets

780
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: up everything for Philip Rivers, who miss practice this week.

781
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: A teammate said, he's really struggling with this foot slash

782
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: toe injury. Uh, that's a problem moving forward. I don't

783
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a big enough problem again to

784
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: a beleaguered Texans team right now, even though they're winning games.

785
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm not giving them too much credit. One thought, is

786
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: it possible that Phil Rivers has reached the stage in

787
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: terms of lack of mobility and slowness that any injuries

788
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: through his lower body won't make a difference because he's

789
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: already at the lowest level of speed sla uh statue

790
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: uh status. I mean classic stone age pony right there.

791
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: That's the dictionary definition of when we when we use

792
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: that term, um, it's how much slower is it gonna get?

793
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Because you've gotta be able to pivot and plant when

794
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: you throw the ball. If he's missing practice, that's a

795
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: that's a problem. He's not a guy who wants to

796
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: be missing practice. It is. I mean it helps. I

797
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: mean getting to Forest Buckner back, getting to Nico Autry

798
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: back off the COVID list. Look that that is a

799
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: huge reason that they were destroyed last week by Derrick Henry.

800
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: It's not the only reason, but it's a factor. Because

801
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: this defensive line has been stout. It's been the heart

802
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: of their team. And you get healthy, you're good. I

803
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: think the Cults basically are under some pressure here. You

804
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: can't let the Texans clip you here. I know that

805
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: they're down, but they're still frisky. And the Cults, to me,

806
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: sometimes they seem to just go a little stagnant. I

807
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: don't really trust them on offense at all. I do

808
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: trust their defense that they're healthy and you gotta take

809
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: care of business and stay in this a f C

810
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: wild card picture here and not fade away. I I

811
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: almost give the Cults a pass for last week. I

812
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: think the Forest Buckner is the Jenga piece of the

813
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: entire team, let alone the defense, and the stats back

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00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, when he's not on the field,

815
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: and he's usually been on the field this this UH season,

816
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: they average two yards more per carry on the ground

817
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: their opponent does. And that comes despite the fact that

818
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: when Buckler's out of the game, and this has all

819
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: come from next Gen stacks stats in the st X,

820
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: the box at roughly double the rate to try to

821
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: So they're trying to make up for the fact that

822
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Buckner's gone, but he's such an important player that it

823
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: doesn't matter with the run, and then that leaves them

824
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: exposed in the passing game when they're stack in the box.

825
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: So Buckner being out of there was a killer for them.

826
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: So him being back and off the COVID list, I

827
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: think they they'll they'll sense the urgency. Here are our

828
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: friend Patrick clay Band. Sometimes him and I butt heads

829
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: about things like momentum and trap games and things like that.

830
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I believe in urgency as well, and teams knowing they

831
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: need to win a game. Although Patrick might counter, well,

832
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: they always want to win the games in your head,

833
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: he's not even really and he's in your head. They

834
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: really really really need to win this game, and they will.

835
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: And I would lock it up if I didn't feel

836
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: so good about my other walk m like that, and

837
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Speaker 1: I you know, one positive with the Philip Rivers injury

838
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: is the Jacoby prest Uh short yardage package, which is

839
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: one of my favorite, most ridiculous, delightful parts of this

840
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: entire season, where you replace the thirty second slowest quarterback

841
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: in the link with like the nine and it's like working.

842
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: I love Jacobe percent like I've always rooted for it,

843
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: but it's really funny that you're bringing in one like

844
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: a guy who has got about the mobility of Jared

845
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: goff to to run the short yardage places. It's just

846
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: it's fun. Dan Gregg is a weird guy. He is

847
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Speaker 1: a weird guy. He's a strange guy. And Greg, don't

848
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Speaker 1: be so cynical. Yes, Patrick clay Ban's in my head,

849
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: but in a good way, in the greatest way. Everyone

850
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: wants Patrick clay Ban in their head. All right, before

851
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Speaker 1: we move on to the next draft, pick two things,

852
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Speaker 1: two orders of business, okay, And I want to start

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Speaker 1: by welcoming in a little surprise, a little early birthday

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Speaker 1: present here from the Around the NFL podcast his first

855
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Speaker 1: preview show appearance of the great Chris Westling will join

856
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Speaker 1: us for the back half of the show. What's up? West? Hey?

857
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Speaker 1: Now happy to be here? Look at that and I'm

858
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that west is with us for the back

859
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Speaker 1: end of the show. And we're all happy for obvious reasons,

860
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Speaker 1: but also we need to to say thank you to

861
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: all the listeners that reached out to us West over

862
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: the last week. Spotify has their year end data and

863
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Speaker 1: we were just really an avalanche of information was sent

864
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Speaker 1: our away from all of the listeners who, you know,

865
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Speaker 1: just what listen to the show relentlessly on a level

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Speaker 1: that we could never imagine. And the growth of the show,

867
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Speaker 1: both here in America and abroad has been stunning. And West,

868
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Speaker 1: I know you've were getting a ton of that as well.

869
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool this week. What's that lead from

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Speaker 1: an eighties song called a delusion a paper cup, That's

871
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Speaker 1: what it felt like halfway through the week, there's a

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Speaker 1: del us of of Spotify content coming through. It was

873
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Speaker 1: nice to see and uh, thankful to everyone has spent

874
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Speaker 1: eight thousand minutes with us. I hope West, you know,

875
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Speaker 1: I know you're not feeling a dred percent. But as

876
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: as the great John bon Jovi said, good pod is

877
00:42:52,040 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: like bad medicine, bad medicines. Wes you act really quoted?

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Speaker 1: That was perhaps on my short list of favorite eighties songs. Ever,

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Speaker 1: don't dream It's over by crowded House. There we go.

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Speaker 1: That is a beautiful song. Please check it out youngsters

881
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: listening to the show right now, and again, thank you

882
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: to all the listeners who have reached out to us

883
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: and supported us, not just this year, but since the

884
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Speaker 1: beginning way back in July two thirteen. West. This is

885
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Speaker 1: awesome that you're on the back end of the show

886
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: and you know we're just gonna throw you right in

887
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Speaker 1: the fire here, buddy, We're gonna pump you into the

888
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: draft and we're gonna reboot this thing. It's like an

889
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: expansion draft and you will be picking next. You have

890
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: the list of games remaining in front of you. Where

891
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: you're going. I'm going to Eagles at Packers all right,

892
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: and why that's because it has the Packers, so they

893
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: for you, for you that the Packers are appointment television,

894
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: which is notable because we had gotten to a point

895
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: west where they weren't the last couple of years. But

896
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: things have changed in a very good way for football fans.

897
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: Things have changed, and they are shallow at wide receiver

898
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: and tight end. But when they're all healthy, it's just enough,

899
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: and I think they click when Alan Lazard is there

900
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: for them. He shouldn't. He's not a big name guy

901
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: in households around the country, but he really helps Aaron Rodgers,

902
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers trusts him more than he trusts a

903
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: guy like mbs um. I like the way they're rolling.

904
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: Robert Tonyan has become a go to receiver for them. Um.

905
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: And as much as you look at the Chiefs and

906
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: they've got wide receivers running wide open throughout the game,

907
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers keeps having to put the ball on the

908
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: on the money for these guys, and he keeps doing

909
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: it over and over again. They are appointment viewing. Aaron

910
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Jones still making it happen at running back. This offense

911
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: right there at the top of the league with the Chiefs.

912
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: The offensive line is so good that it does make

913
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: you a little concerned. Corey Lindsley's out for three to

914
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: six weeks, you know, one of the best centers in

915
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: the entire league. Um, they've been kind of the key

916
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, the holes they're opening up in

917
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the past and game, the protection they give Rogers, it

918
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: almost doesn't matter who's there at receiver. But it sounds

919
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: like they will have Lazard for this game. He left

920
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Sunday night? Was it this week? Is really confusing me

921
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: with an injury, So I thought, oh my gosh, they're

922
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: right back to where they were. But he's been at

923
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: practice and you only need so many points when you're

924
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: playing like the dead ass. Uh, Eagles, can we say that?

925
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: I guess sure. I mean you just did so. I

926
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: think that's okay. I mean, I always wonder what is

927
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: happening to someone like Darius Slay who was massacred on

928
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: national television. Uh, and you know, Twitter's going wild and

929
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: now he's going to deal with Davante Adams. It feels like, um,

930
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: he and Carson Wentz would probably just like to vanish

931
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: and go take like a boat trip to a distant

932
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: island and get away from this season that cannot end

933
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: fast enough for the Eagles. When I also think like

934
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: whenever you got your head coach, answering constant questions about

935
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: play calling and who's calling the plays and the methodology

936
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: of calling the plays, it's kind of the indicator that

937
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 1: chaos has become is brimming over. And I do wonder

938
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: about the feu sure of Doug Peterson. I really looked

939
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: at the schedule. I mean, look where they're at now.

940
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: So they kicked away their opportunity to to right the

941
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: ship when they lost to the Giants out of there By,

942
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: and then they lose to Cleveland, they get beat by Seattle,

943
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: so they're in a three game skin. And now you

944
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: look at the schedule at green Bay, that's probably a

945
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: lost home to New Orleans, Taysom Hill and all that

946
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: is a little interesting with the Saints, but you don't

947
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: feel good there. Uh. And at that point you're three

948
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: and nine, and I don't care how bad the NFC

949
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: East is, I'm pretty sure you're cooked at that point.

950
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: So the Eagles are not compelling to me anymore, because

951
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: it used to be a month ago I was compelled

952
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: by this Carson Wentz uh soap opera slash tragedy that

953
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: was unfolding West. But now he just seems like a

954
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: broken quarterback, and the team seems like it doesn't know

955
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: what to do, and the head coach seems like he's

956
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: out of answers. So there's not a lot of interest

957
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: to this Eagles team. When you say broken quarterback, it

958
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: reminds me of something Trent Hilfer once said about every

959
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: quarterback needs to be broken like a stallion when they

960
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: enter the league until they accept coaching. And I a

961
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: guy like Carson Wentz who over and over again and said,

962
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm not going to change the style in which I play.

963
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna hold the ball.

964
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait for the play to happen. And he

965
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: does that every game like it's the super Bowl, and

966
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: you can't play quarterback that way, just holding the ball.

967
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: I wonder the way Doug Peterson's coaching him now, where

968
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: they don't call much play action to help him out.

969
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: They really don't call much at all to help him.

970
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if Doug Peterson wants to wait until the

971
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz hits rock bottom and accepts coaching. I don't know.

972
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: I think he knows he's going down with the ship

973
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: if it continues, and that they're in this together. I

974
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: think they have. He has played differently the last three

975
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: weeks in the sense that they seem just determined to

976
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: prevent turnovers, like that's all they care about. They're not

977
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: even trying to roll them out or do anything creative.

978
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: And they're like that's not working either, because he's not accurate,

979
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: he's not making good decisions. It's a tough watch. This

980
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Packer's defense isn't great. They've gotten a little juice maybe

981
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: up front since they ever Shawn gary Plaine more with

982
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Darius Smith inside, they've been disappointing too, but everyone every

983
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: defense looks good against this Eagles team. All right, let's

984
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: let's move on. Mark, You're up next. Well, I mean

985
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: I have to you know, we we had. The way

986
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: these drafts work, You've got to schedule your day out.

987
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I've got to grab a four pm r here. I'm

988
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna go Giants at Seattle. I have no problem watching

989
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: the Giants, the team I grew up watching. Um Colt

990
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: McCoy will be well, well, you know they have not

991
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: confirmed this but we we certainly assumed Cult McCoy will

992
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: be starting. Can I ask you a question, mark, and

993
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: we've touched on the shore where you named uh your

994
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: second son after the Cleveland Browns quarterback at the time,

995
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. Yes, Does it cause you to root for

996
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy or is there much enough disconnect where it

997
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: doesn't even like your mind doesn't even process that your

998
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: son was literally named after this player that's playing on Sunday. No,

999
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: of course it would make me rude for him. I mean,

1000
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: it's not that far disconnected of an of an event

1001
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: that it has no meaning to me. I mean, he's

1002
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: also just simply not been on He's not appeared in

1003
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: our lives for so long that it's kind of interesting

1004
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: to me on its own. Um, I really like Cult

1005
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: McCoy the person. Um, Cult McCoy the quarterback leaves you

1006
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: asking some questions. I thought he missed a couple of

1007
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: throws last week that suggested he could use some practice time. Um,

1008
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: you're dealing with Seattle's defense that I thought has gotten

1009
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: a little bit better with Carlos Dunlap and Jamal Adams.

1010
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: But you know, I know you guys mentioned on are

1011
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: in the speed round of our network show that you

1012
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: thought this would just be a wild blowout. Giants defense

1013
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: has been bettered. Leonard Williams has been better. They are

1014
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: the fifth, you know, fifth in the in the NFL

1015
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: and QB hits they can. They've been getting to the

1016
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: quarterback a little bit more. I think they're coached well. Um,

1017
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a close game, especially

1018
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: with cult McCoy undersetter. I think it's sort of a

1019
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: mess that we've well that Daniel Jones was playing some

1020
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: of his best football. He melts out of the lineup,

1021
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: and the Giants are still alive for the division. The

1022
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: timing is awful. Seattle can't slip up here. I wouldn't

1023
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: expect an upset, um, you know, so where do you

1024
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: come down? We call blowout. You said you don't see

1025
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: a blow out, but you see one side of game.

1026
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: I know. I don't think it's gonna be like a

1027
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: forty to ten type thing. When I think blow out,

1028
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: I think like melt the stadium down. I mean that

1029
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: Eagles see how I see him almost felt like a

1030
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: like if it's twenty four to ten, that can sometimes

1031
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: feel like a blow out. That's kind of what I

1032
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: expect here because they've been the Giants have been frisky.

1033
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: That's all I mean, I just you know, it's it

1034
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: would be a fun game if Daniel Jones was playing,

1035
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: if he was gonna skip one week, though, don't put

1036
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: him on this plane across the country with that hamstring.

1037
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: You probably gotta lose this game anyways. Try to get

1038
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: him healthy for next week. He was doing a couple

1039
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: of things that practice and move forward because you're you're

1040
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: you're still going to be right in there in the

1041
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: NFC's you'd probably still be in first place after this

1042
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: week in the NFC. E's Let me check in here

1043
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: on the progress of Dunlop because he sounds like he's out.

1044
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: Sounds like that is that's notable. I mean, because he

1045
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: had four sacks and four games and it wasn't just

1046
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: the sacks. He was essentially bringing West that pressure that

1047
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: they needed up front. And now you don't know what

1048
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: his status is, Uh, will that lead to their pass

1049
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: rush going back off the rails, Because it's been that's

1050
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: been kind of a surprise. It's been legitimately good in

1051
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, which is something I desperately needed. Yeah,

1052
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: they're a funny team that sees themselves as contenders. But

1053
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: we're willing to go into the season without a pass rusher. Then,

1054
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: you know, they let Jenevan Clowney go. They drafted LJ.

1055
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: Colli or who's more to me an inside guy than

1056
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. So they they went into the season

1057
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: without a Carlos dun Lap type. They really need him

1058
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: to complete that defense. They and they Jamal Adams essentially

1059
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: was their acquisition to have a pass rusher, which is

1060
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: obviously weird and a little quirky as well. They yes,

1061
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: they have twenty two sacks since Week eight. How about that?

1062
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: And they sack Carson went six times on Monday Night?

1063
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: All right up next in the draft, Greg the Hammer Rosenthal. Boy,

1064
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: these are the sounds that I make when I don't

1065
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: have my pick ready. Let's go uh, let's go Mike Lennon,

1066
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: let's go Vikings. Let's get this uh knocked out out

1067
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: of the way. Don't need to see this on game pass,

1068
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Lennon, I would argue, might have played

1069
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: the best game by a quarterback at Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback,

1070
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: it's not over, It's not over. West, let's bring back

1071
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: the two thousand and thirteen podcasts arguments. I think that

1072
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: was our first season doing a podcast, and uh, West

1073
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: was firmly on the Mike Lennon's abom he doesn't move

1074
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: this Bucks team. I was on the leg Glendon's fun

1075
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: to watch. You know what, West, you probably won that one.

1076
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: But now I'm back in the ring. At least I've

1077
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: known you for how many years now, and it never

1078
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: fails to estold me how poor your memory is. Yeah,

1079
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: your memory is atrocious. Like after after one starts at Timber,

1080
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: you were like, Gardner Minshew is really good, Like he

1081
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: had an awesome game, And now I thought, I went

1082
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: back in love Glennon has a C plus game and

1083
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, better than any game. And yet

1084
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at this game. I went

1085
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: back and looked at PFF just to like see if

1086
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was crazy, I would say he was

1087
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: about the same as like a good Gardener Minship game.

1088
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, they did have him graded

1089
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: as slightly the highest rated game by a Jaguars quarterback.

1090
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: So it's like, it's kind of crazy talk. It's not

1091
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: both crazy, you am PF five or six big time

1092
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: throws in that game. I mean that is play circles

1093
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: around Mike Glennon. Give me a break, I would rather

1094
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting though, because we all know who Mike

1095
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Glennon is at this point, and while he did make

1096
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: some throws, I don't think anybody could say that he

1097
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: was playing at a high level last week. I mean,

1098
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: he played as well as Baker Mayfield for sure, if

1099
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: I just I guess My point is this, he's Mike

1100
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: Lennon one week for one week. Yeah, and if Gardner

1101
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Minshew is healthy, I guess who cares ultimately, because Jack

1102
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: that was blown it up at quarterback anyway. But I

1103
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: am surprised that min She's not back in the lineup

1104
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: this this week. He's too risky right there, telling you

1105
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: that they don't want to win, and they're they're doing

1106
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: it as coyly as possible. No one buys. They have

1107
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: a funny way to show it. They've had leads against

1108
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: quality teams now like almost three weeks in a row.

1109
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't risky because the Jaguars are frisky. They're actually

1110
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: a decent team that will surprise a lot of people

1111
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: next year. But men she's too good. He's gonna win

1112
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: games the rest of this year. I'd say they're lucky

1113
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: to have their terrible record. I mean, if they're gaming

1114
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: to get a first round pick, they're lucky to be

1115
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: to not have won three or four games. I'm with you,

1116
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: But I also think Jay Gruden liked having Glennon back there,

1117
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: and their offense played well, like I don't expect it

1118
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: to continue this week, even against the Vikings defense that's

1119
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: not great rush in the pastor although they've been much

1120
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: better lately, but he played well. The offense made a

1121
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: lot more sense. It made you think, like if he

1122
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: was in there instead of looting, you know, they would

1123
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: have had a better chance to win. But your teens,

1124
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: the team is still right there. Six and six staring

1125
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: at them, not just a six and six staring at him,

1126
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: but a schedule that's favorable down the stretch. Week fifteen,

1127
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: they get the Bears, Week seventeen, they get the Lions.

1128
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: You have the Bucks also in there, and who knows

1129
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: what to how to make sense of the Bucks right now,

1130
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: and then they have a tough one at New Orleans

1131
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: in week sixteen. I think nine and seven is not

1132
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: out of the Roman possibility. We'll see if that gets

1133
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: them in. Kirk Cousins uh twelve touchdowns and one pick

1134
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: in his last five games. He had ten picks weeks

1135
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: one through seven. Uh, so that's pretty interesting. And here

1136
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: is here's why this is gonna be a blowout because

1137
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback and Cousins playing extremely well right now,

1138
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Dalvin cooks a little beat up, but you imagine, uh,

1139
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 1: they'll be able to run the ball either way. Because

1140
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: this is the Jaguars defensive ranks, and this is why

1141
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: they've lost ten straight. They are they are allowing thirty

1142
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: points a game. They are allowing uh four d and

1143
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: sixteen yards per game. That's thirty one league. They are

1144
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: allowing um hundred and thirty six yards on the ground

1145
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: per game. That's twenty ninth in the league. They are

1146
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: allowing two yards through the air, that's twenty ninth in

1147
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: the league. And they only have seven eleven sacks the

1148
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: entire seasons. And they lost like four or five of

1149
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: their starters in the last two or three weeks alone.

1150
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: So it doesn't help. What a mess, all right? Moving on,

1151
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: I got the old zousa and I need I need

1152
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: a late game. I really do Denver, Kansas City. That's

1153
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: Sunday night. That is late, but it's too late. Cincinnati

1154
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: at Miami. No, Cincinnati at Miami late. You are out

1155
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: of luck on four oclim but we can make we

1156
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: can do some shuffling. All right, Let's go Raiders at Jets. Then, UM,

1157
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: here's my thing. I want to hear Wester's thoughts on this.

1158
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: So this is this is great? Um, obviously a disaster

1159
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Uh in it Lanta and the thing,

1160
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: everything I could go wrong did go wrong. And then

1161
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback car had such a poor game that I

1162
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: think it had an effect of erasing any positive things

1163
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: that Car has done this season. So they're almost back

1164
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: to zero in terms of respect amongst the football gay.

1165
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: So what happens now? Are they going to go in

1166
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: the tank like they did last year, which would be

1167
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: good news for the Cleveland Browns, mark Sesso's favorite team

1168
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: and other a f C playoff hopefuls. Or are they

1169
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: going to bounce back here against obviously historically terrible Jets team,

1170
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: get their feedback under them, and then finish out this

1171
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: season and get to the ten wins they need. Um,

1172
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to bail on the Raiders. It was

1173
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: a bad week. It was a terrible week. It was

1174
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: an embarrassing week. But I'm not willing to say, based

1175
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: on what we've seen the season that it was a

1176
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: La Ravio magnifico, that this was actually a bad team

1177
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: all along. I don't think they are. I don't think

1178
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: they're elite. I don't think they're bad. I think are

1179
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: pretty good. And that's where I think they kill the

1180
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: Jets and they will be playing for the playoffs in

1181
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: week seventeen. West agree or disagree if you're if you're

1182
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: contention as they are an average football team, I agree.

1183
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: I believe them to be above average. It's maybe slightly

1184
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: above average. I see them, I've seen them all year

1185
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: as a team that has a chance to get a

1186
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: wild card um sneak in. But I don't see them

1187
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: as like a legitimate threat to anyone who's who's a contender.

1188
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: I see them as a kind of an also ran

1189
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: who might sneak into the playoffs and play one game

1190
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: and lose. But um, I sent you guys that outlet

1191
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: outrageous stat from Mike Sando of the Athletic there have

1192
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: been about eleven thousand offensive games which means games because

1193
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: there's two offenses in each game since the year two

1194
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: thousand and the Raiders performance against the Falcons ranked ten

1195
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: thousand nine. That's how bad they were. That was it

1196
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: was very flukey. I'm just saying that's that astounded me. Um.

1197
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're that bad. No, I think

1198
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: they just have one bad game and they should have

1199
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: an easy time against the Jets. I mean, we all

1200
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: were going to have like our worst day are legit

1201
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: worst day of our life, and that might have been theirs.

1202
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: That might have been collectively, there's as a group to

1203
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: statistically based on what you're saying, is just like the

1204
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: Raiders offense like there. I but I'm I'm kind of

1205
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: with you West that I I think there's a a

1206
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: group of teams in the a f C that, no

1207
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: matter who wins the wild card grouping like you're just

1208
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: essentially Kansas City Chiefs fodder. And I don't really buy

1209
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: a number of them to go on after what they've

1210
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: done in two games, because why do I have to

1211
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: be that impressed with the Raiders like they're I think

1212
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: they're just sort of there the two games against the Chiefs.

1213
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: I like what I think they're built to beat the Chiefs,

1214
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: specifically built to be the chief called cannon fodder. After

1215
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: the performances they put up in those spots, I guess

1216
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: I just don't trust them to go on What are

1217
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: you saying that they're going to go on a playoff run? Uh? No,

1218
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: I didn't go that far. I said that I don't

1219
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: think they're gonna I think there's a lot of it's

1220
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: easy right now to connect the dots to last year

1221
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: at this time where they have a similar or same

1222
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: record and then completely folded uh and off of performances historically,

1223
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: as West pointed out, awful was against the Falcons. There's

1224
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: there's a temptation to say, oh, the Raiders are done now.

1225
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm just not there yet. And I think part of

1226
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: the reason is the Jets coming up on their schedule

1227
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: allows them to kind of get their feedback under them.

1228
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: I think it's perfect schedule timing for them. Well, they

1229
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: play the Colts and the Dolphins in their final four games,

1230
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: they should beat the Jets get to seven and five.

1231
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: I get, so, are you saying you you like them

1232
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: better than let's say, the Colts and the Dolphins, Because

1233
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: if you don't like them better than those teams, and

1234
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: they're not going to make the playoffs, but if they

1235
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: win those games, they will go to the playoffs. It's

1236
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: and like those are clear games for them. Assume you

1237
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: like them better than the Brown stand Uh yeah, I

1238
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: do like them better than Bros. So they so you

1239
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: have them as the outside of the Titans, like the

1240
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: six that's the six Bills, the Titans, the Chiefs are

1241
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: all teams I think are all division winners. So they

1242
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: are your number one wild card team, the Raiders. But

1243
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: they need they obviously have to get off the mat here.

1244
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I guess my point is I'm

1245
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: not bailing off the Uss Gruden right now. Maybe you

1246
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: will be when Quentin Williams Rex shop cow about Quinnin

1247
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Williams mar qb hits and sacks in the last two weeks.

1248
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Uh than Chase Young has all season people trying to

1249
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: get at least Young a rookie of the year and

1250
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: give me a break. That that's a that's another matter.

1251
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: Chase Young is a nice is a good player, but

1252
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: let's get some production. Quentin Williams is on absolute fire,

1253
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: which is nice to see for you. The next Jets coach.

1254
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you their best three players are all their

1255
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: top picks from the last two drafts, just about I

1256
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: mean with Beckton Mims and Quinnin Williams. That's nice, that's good.

1257
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to squint to get excited about where

1258
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: the Jets could be next June. Say, but but first

1259
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: they need to go through the rest of this horrific,

1260
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: horrific season pretty hard. It's still gonna take a lot,

1261
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: But I do like that they're they're top drafted players

1262
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: in the last two drafts are showing you a lot,

1263
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: which is but I guess what I mean by that

1264
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: is like, look at the Browns after their own sixteen

1265
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: and then they had all the draft picks and they

1266
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: brought in the quarterback and all of a sudden was like, okay,

1267
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: there's actually optimism, and you had some of the players

1268
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: in the building, it was like, Okay, there's something here

1269
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: to maybe build on. I think getting to that point

1270
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: can happen quickly. Now, whether they actually become a non

1271
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: embarrassment once the game's really you know, begin in next September.

1272
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: Will that's another conversation. Well, Joe Burrow can do for

1273
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals. What he did, you know, even energy wise

1274
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: that quickly. I think if you get Trevor Lawrence, you've

1275
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: got something you're cooking. Because they have a ton of

1276
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: draft picks. Everyone loves the general manager, and you'd hope

1277
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: you'd make a lot of good decisions in free agency

1278
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: to it may you may not be that far away,

1279
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: all right, So let's move on. Uh, it's snakes to

1280
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: the zuister here. That's right, all right? What I'm gonna

1281
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: can I default to West? Give West another picker, you

1282
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: could take one of the prime times. You can do

1283
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: anything you want. Go ahead, West, I will go. Bengals

1284
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: at Dolphins, Okay, against my better judgment. If you're seeing

1285
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen leading offense, I don't know how they almost

1286
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: beat the Giants last week because that game was an

1287
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: indictment of Ryan Finley, a guy the Bengals drafted in

1288
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: the middle rounds can't even beat out Brandon Allen. Who

1289
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: How did the Bengal score? They got a kickoff return

1290
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and then their second touchdown was a

1291
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: phantom defensive passive interference penalty in the end zone, which

1292
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: gave them the ball on the one yard line and

1293
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: they went in, they got the ball back on a

1294
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: punt return at midfield with enough time to to come

1295
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: back and win that game, and Brandon Allen gets a

1296
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: strip sacked on his first drop back. There they have

1297
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: They have no offense. He can't throw beyond fifteen twenty

1298
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: yards with any authority whatsoever. They can't stretch anybody, they

1299
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: can't threaten anybody, and they are horrible to watch. The

1300
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: Dolphins are so lucky that after their worst game of

1301
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: the entire season, which was in Denver, not just that

1302
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: they lost, but they were absolutely manhandled. Right at the

1303
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: point of the season where a young team that's overachieved

1304
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, you do wonder, okay, is this are

1305
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: they gonna teeter? Are they gonna collapse? Um? Are they

1306
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: going to kind of show us who they are? Then

1307
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: they get the Jets and the Bengals back to back weeks,

1308
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: the two worst teams I think in the entire NFL now,

1309
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: and they can get right and they have a very

1310
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: similar defensive scheme to the Giants, who are run by

1311
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Graham, the defensive coordinator who had Brandon Allen just

1312
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: totally mind melded, I mean mind left they he he

1313
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: was done, and the Dolphins defense will do it again,

1314
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: and they should romp with Fitzpatrick most likely. It suddenly

1315
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: sound like two is back. Yeah, Fitzpatrick and two are

1316
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: an interesting though. I feel like that offense runs better

1317
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: with Fits. There's one thing too, it does that I

1318
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: think a lot of people will notice that he He

1319
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 1: might even be more accurate on intermediate throws than people

1320
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: expect to coming out of Alabama. He's been really impressive

1321
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: with that. But before last week's game, they both had

1322
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: taken ten sacks this year on about what Fitzpatrick had

1323
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: about two and a half more times drop back than

1324
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: than two. It did, so Fits makes that offensive line

1325
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: looks so much better. I wouldn't mind seeing Zach Taylor

1326
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: even though you don't have your quarterback out coach someone.

1327
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, Tennessee. I pointed the Tennessee

1328
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: game as an example where that's a good They did

1329
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: a good job there. But I'm I'm still waiting to

1330
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: find out who this person is. Um highly anonymous to me,

1331
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: still just disturbing. I'm gonna pull a Sessler here and

1332
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wait or care. I'm sending the Bengals

1333
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: off into the corn Fields and yeah, i'll see, I'll

1334
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: see in one. They hold no interest to me, especially

1335
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: with Borrow gone. I don't really care about Zach Taylor,

1336
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: whether he could coach this team up. I don't think

1337
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: he will. Um, it's just another a bummer end of

1338
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: the season, uh for Cincinnati for obvious reasons. Uh. Looking

1339
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: at the dolphins remaining schedule, Okay, they how to get

1340
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: to ten, right, most likely you never know, but probably.

1341
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: Uh So let's give him a win eight and four,

1342
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: then they host the Chiefs. Not feeling good about that,

1343
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: let's say eight and five. Then a big one, greggy,

1344
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: big one in Week fifteen home against the Patriots, big

1345
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: for both teams. Could be a loser goes home match. Yeah,

1346
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have been a better team all year. I

1347
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: know they lost to the Patriots in Week one that

1348
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: it's a litmus test for them, but they they have

1349
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: been the better team compared to the Patriots all year.

1350
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: And then they close against Raiders at Raiders, I should say,

1351
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: at Bills. So okay, it's gonna be interesting and you

1352
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: want that's what you want if you're the Dolphins. Is

1353
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: that schedule? I know? And like in theory, you could

1354
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: try to line up cupcakes. There's not enough cupcakes to

1355
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: go around. So what you want is to play the

1356
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: teams you're exactly competing with. If you can't beat the

1357
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Patriots like you're you're clearly not a

1358
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: playoff team. Shouldn't be in the dance. I agree, All right,

1359
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: let's move on. Knock this one out. This could be

1360
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: going to poor old Nick Shook Detroit lines at Chicago Bears.

1361
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia obviously no longer the man there. It is

1362
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: who Daryl Bevil. Yeah, Daryl Bevil will be calling the plays.

1363
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I've read. I read a notebook item on the lines

1364
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: that with Daryl Bevil on offense you might seem more

1365
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: up tempo and a change and a little bit how

1366
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: they do things on the offensive side of the ball.

1367
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know what it means. The Bears lose

1368
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: every week two more teams. Mark Sessler that we could

1369
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 1: really safely sent to the corn fields. Yeah, a little

1370
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: bit off topic, but I thought Darryl bevill Um had

1371
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: an interesting um introductory meeting with the press where he

1372
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: has two daughters Um and right around the time that

1373
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: he was named interim head coach to the two daughters

1374
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: are are dating or two men, and the two men

1375
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: asked Daryl Bevil's um permission to marry the daughters. Now

1376
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: normally when that happens, um, he said yes, and then

1377
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: they go off and asked the girls to marry them

1378
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: like in due time, but not like not to be

1379
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's that happens on its own sign. Daryl

1380
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Bevill told all the reporters that that had happened before,

1381
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: the before the two men had asked his daughters. So

1382
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: he outed them as, uh, you know, want to be

1383
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: engaged men. I find that to be a weird thing

1384
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: to do, is your opening um statement as a coach.

1385
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe I'm wrong? Am I overreact? Wasn't intentional?

1386
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: He was not. He didn't really realize what he had done.

1387
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: And I guess it's not intentional, but you've got to

1388
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, just keep that out of your mouth.

1389
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: In general, there's plenty of stuff to talk about in

1390
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: your introductory zoom call. Let's let's just stay away from

1391
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: the whole topic. He was anyone. He said, it was

1392
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: like a crazy weekend. I mean, who knows, maybe Bevil

1393
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: would be like this crazy interim coach, you know, he'll

1394
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: just like reignite the Lions. Uh get ready. I don't

1395
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: know that's what he's a new Dan Campbell, I don't

1396
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: know me Mina. I did Mina Kimes this podcast and

1397
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: she was like legitimate excited for the bevil Era. Check

1398
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: that out. I I couldn't. I couldn't get there. And

1399
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: by the way, the Bears might not be done yet. Dan.

1400
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: The Bears play the Lions this week, and so if

1401
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: they win this terrible game, there's six and six, which

1402
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: not as not only is just in it, but might

1403
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: be tied for the last playoff spot. And then they

1404
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: play another dog team, the Texans, next week. They might

1405
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: lose the game. They have the Jaggers coming up. The

1406
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: Bears are going to annoy us. I feel I can

1407
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: stick around longer than we want. Okay, maybe I think

1408
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: with a Mina thing. Mina was with Sessler on the

1409
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: Lions bandwagon back in September. Maybe that was She's probably

1410
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: just you know, staying on the bandwag, which is noble

1411
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: in its own right. And she actually just helped um

1412
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: David Chang win a million dollars on who wants to

1413
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: be a millionaires? Like she's got that going on. So

1414
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I don't know about the Bears though,

1415
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: you really do you really think they'll be hanging around?

1416
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: Here's what I think is that they I would pick

1417
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: them to win this game because of their defense, and

1418
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: so that's just like another week they're going to be

1419
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: in our lives where they could legitimately be tied for

1420
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: the final playoffs. And then you have the Texans. I

1421
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know, could they? You know? They everyone remembers the

1422
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: Bears last year is like the worst team in human history,

1423
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: and they won eight or nine games last year too,

1424
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Like they'll probably do it. And then this NFC race,

1425
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: they might still be playing meaningful games in week sixteen

1426
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: and we'll have to talk about them. Isn't that annoying? Chris?

1427
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: This Greg? That's an unnecessary way to go with this conversation.

1428
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on here. All right, let's

1429
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 1: stig in the rest of these games that are being played,

1430
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: uh in prime time? Will start with Sunday Night football,

1431
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos at Kansas City Chiefs West. Do you think

1432
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: like people slept on a little bit? Maybe they didn't.

1433
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just my my life is crazy, just like

1434
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: everybody else's life is crazy right now. But Tyree Kill

1435
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: had two hundred yards in one quarter on Sunday, and

1436
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: that's one of the most amazing things that we've ever

1437
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: seen in football. It's easy to those track of things

1438
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: in this year, and that's one of the things that

1439
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: maybe we've already lost track of. By the time the

1440
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: second quarter started, people were already moving on to something else.

1441
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: But it was an amazing performance I talked about I

1442
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: talked about it on the Sunday night recap. Reminded me

1443
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: of the time I got emasculated in coverage a little bit.

1444
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: It's still in your mind. Brought back some bad memories

1445
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: watching Carlton Davis get toasted there. But yeah, I think

1446
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs something. Come on everyone. I it seems

1447
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: like everyone else. Even even if the Chiefs, even if

1448
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: Steelers go undefeated and meet the Chiefs in the playoffs,

1449
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna be favored in that game. They're

1450
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: just that good that, you know what. That's a good

1451
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: way to put it, West because for instance, I have

1452
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I had the Steelers in the power rankings,

1453
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: and that is the most basic way you could kind

1454
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: of boil it down to that. It's like one team

1455
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: finishes fifteen and one the other one sixteen and if

1456
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: they meet the line, Greg, let's go to the desert.

1457
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: Let's hypothetically set one. Both teams are pretty much healthy. Uh,

1458
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: what would in Pittsburgh? The game will be in Pittsburgh,

1459
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: three and a bubble site in Orlando. What do you

1460
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: got three and a half for the Chiefs for the Chiefs? Yeah,

1461
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: that's I would I was going to say closer to three.

1462
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: And you know, I would feel great taking the Chiefs

1463
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: because I would just feel great taking the Chiefs against uh, anyone,

1464
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: especially the Broncos, who they've outscored ninety to twenty five,

1465
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: by the way, the last three times he played. Right now,

1466
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: I mean, if we point to the sorry, if we

1467
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: point to the Raiders as a team, I think it's

1468
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: being built to compete with Kansas City. They're not totally there,

1469
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of promises. We talked about the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I thought might be that team this year, and none

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01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: of it's come together on any level. On offense, like

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Speaker 1: all the excitement about all the pieces. I love Jerry

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: Judy to some degree, but like all the chaos, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Vic Fongio is the guy to

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01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: take you into the Golden hands, um, if you're Denver

1476
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: at this point, like he feels gonna coach the quarterback again.

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: The quarterback positions such a mess there, Jerry Judy remember

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01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: that game. I think it was. It might have been

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: Week one, one of those Monday night games where he

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: did some of his footwork with the ball in his

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01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: hands and we were all just like blown away by it.

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: That guy doesn't even exist in the NFL right now.

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: It's just like everything has gone down this vortex in Denver.

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: They're a very frustrating team this season. Ye aren't you

1485
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: let down? I mean I was, I haven't. I was

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: more wrong about the Broncos than any any team. And

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: it's part of like the reason Kendall Hinton was had

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: no chance last week. I mean he wasn't gonna have

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: a chance properly anyways, but they were. They were dead

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Speaker 1: last in d v o A offensively entering that game,

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01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: and Drew Locks started most of these games, and they

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: weren't any like better or worse Withdrew Lock in or

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01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. And so that's where I think

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: Broncos fans who were like so upset, like just need

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: to have a re ality check. And you know what

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: you usually get when when you play this Chief's team

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: who have just absolutely owned them in the Foio era.

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01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: And I think Fonio has gone. To me, the question

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 1: is more as John Elway the guy, because how many

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: how many coaching whiffs is he gonna get? Yeah, I

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01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: think Fonio has gone. I think locks gone. I think

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: you'll see always might go chase a Matthew Stafford type.

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean the ownership might be gone. The ownership is

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01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: having all this problems where Bowlands are fighting against each

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: other and there's all this it's it's a problem. All right,

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: Let's move on to uh. And by the way, the

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: Desert has that at fourteen points, so uh, that is

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: al Michaels is you know, gonna be furious again. You

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: get al Mad to get him surly in the second

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 1: half when he al the one thing Al cares about

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: his ratings more than anything else. Surprised they didn't flex

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 1: out of this game. But I know it's the Chiefs.

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: I think it's just the Mahomes factors. Mahomes the MVP,

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: by the way, right now, right now, he would. I

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01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: have him Rogers neck and neck. I have him and

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01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers neck and neck. Person to the p f W

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01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: A west Where would uh? I know the QB indexes

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01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: on hiatus, but who would be number one on the

1519
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: index right now? I might have to go with the unprecedented.

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: Put them both with the number one beside their name

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01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: and just move on to number three pulling a Sessler

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01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: get on that fence. I get the edge to Rodgers,

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: just because Mahomes has so much more to work with this.

1524
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: This fence thing is also ancient. Like I don't do

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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: fence stuff anymore. I mean, i'll, i'll, I will ask

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01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: the listeners to go find another deep do a done

1527
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: their deep dive on fence work. I don't work on

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: fences anymore. Utterly absurd from like cut thousand and fourteen,

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01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: Like utterly absurd because I picked games to go in overtime.

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01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: Please you got those last fifteen seconds, trickey, that's all

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: we need. We don't need two minutes of that. That's

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01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: what I want as our our podcast. Pret you promo

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: very still, very still, he's off the fence, on the fence. Finally,

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday Football, how about that? The Dallas Cowboys at the

1535
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore Rains. You know, I can't even keep this stuff straight.

1536
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: How come the Ravens get the extra day, not the

1537
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: Steelers when it was the Ravens that caused all the scheduling.

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: Uh snaff foos around Steelers Ravens. Greg you are you're

1539
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: always plugged in to the schedule and park avenue. How

1540
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: come that worked out this way? You sound like uh,

1541
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: every Steelers fan right now. I'm just defeated by this.

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: It's just get if if um. If you're asking why

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01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: are the Ravens Tuesday and the Steelers Monday? I have

1544
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: no idea. I have no clue, but both of the

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01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: NFC East teams, Washington and Dallas, has a little extra rest.

1546
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: This is a huge game for Baltimore. You know, though

1547
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: it's we don't know who's going to be back from

1548
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: their COVID list, which to me feels like the most

1549
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: important part of this game. If Lamar Jackson is back,

1550
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 1: and you know, we know some of the other Ravens

1551
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: players like Matthew Judon are back, you know, I think

1552
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: there's a spine to this team. They showed defensively that's

1553
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: not going away with all the people that they're missing.

1554
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 1: You gotta win this game and get some more people

1555
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: back for the Monday Night Brown's Ravens game, because when

1556
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: I looked at the rest of the season schedule, that

1557
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: Brown's Ravens Monday Night with everything that's happened um with

1558
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: both of these teams and their franchises, like, that's one

1559
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: of the games I'm most excited for the rest of

1560
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: the year because that is your brand. I know the

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01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: Browns have the Titans this week, but you can lose

1562
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 1: that game even if they win that game. This Brown's

1563
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: Ravens game, with the Browns having a chance to maybe

1564
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 1: knock the Ravens out of the playoffs one year after

1565
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: they had home field advantage, that is spicy. So you

1566
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: gotta take care. You gotta find a way to beat Dallas,

1567
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: which is not necessarily gonna be that easy the way

1568
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: everything's going. The dark mirror version of that is the

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland gets um ransacked by Tennessee with all eyes and

1570
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: then they lose on national television to the Ravens, which

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01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: I think they've done like nine or ten times in

1572
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: twenty years, like they consistently put against that's who they are.

1573
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: Want to find out I need to tap into some

1574
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: of your optimism on that front. I think this, like

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: to your point about how tough they played Pittsburgh, um

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys line, Zack Martin when he came back in, that's

1577
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: when we got a little bit of Cowboys hope and

1578
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: they talked about how much better the communication was on

1579
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: that line. That it just you know, there were a

1580
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: lot of there were so many changes in lineup changes

1581
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: there that Zack Martin came in and was just sort

1582
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: of the dude he's gone. Um, cam Irvan has gone.

1583
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm not a big cam Irvan guy, as West knows,

1584
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: but he was. He was a guy for them. And

1585
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: they're back in that place where they're line is a

1586
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: total mess. And if the Ravens get a bunch of

1587
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: these guys back, um, look out, I think they're gonna

1588
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: handle Dallas. Dallas feels like a lost ship to me.

1589
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: This feels like a Ravens are obviously a proud team

1590
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: with you know, veterans, and it's well coached team, and

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: I just think they are going to rally here in

1592
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: a big spot knowing they need to win, and I

1593
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: think they win. It doesn't matter who's the quarterback. And

1594
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: I know that r G three. It's said because everyone

1595
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: remembers r G three coming into the league, what an

1596
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: incredible athlete he was. To see him, uh try to

1597
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: be that guy on Wednesday and his body was just like, na, man,

1598
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: we can't do this anymore. That was a bit of

1599
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: a bummer. And then Trace McSorley came in and he

1600
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: got that late touchdown that did some desert damage. But

1601
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,879
Speaker 1: other than that that, they have major problems on offense

1602
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: um with with without Lamar, but you imagine their backfield

1603
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: will get some reinforcements for this game, and as long

1604
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: as they don't completely implode on offense. I think that defense,

1605
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: which I totally agree with you on that, Greg Uh,

1606
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: they played that was a proud defense that was really

1607
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: really stepped up against the Steelers and nearly um I

1608
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: want to say, win the game, but kept them in

1609
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: that game with all those big stops. I think they're

1610
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: gonna throttle the Cowboys, who are beat up and I

1611
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: think broken. At this point of the year, we might

1612
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: be able to overacting a little till last week though.

1613
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean you you you were so excited about the

1614
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys last week. They you know you locked them up. Dan,

1615
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't think. I don't think any

1616
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: game is a gimme right now for this Baltimore team.

1617
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: As many struggles as you mentioned they're having on offense,

1618
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: Dallas had been trending in the right direction. They had

1619
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: just a terrible game. But man, this I don't know,

1620
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: this zombie Ravens team. You gotta show you something. Three

1621
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: and a round losses. I just want to thank r

1622
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: G three because the only reason I tuned into that

1623
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: game was to see how his sliding has evolved, and

1624
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: he he is so adverse to sliding at this point

1625
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: that the one time he slid in this game was

1626
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: that long run up the middle, and he didn't know

1627
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 1: how to stop himself, so instead of sliding, he turned

1628
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: around and backwards dove onto his back on the ground.

1629
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: Remember writing articles on Around the Around the League for

1630
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: NFL Com about r G three sliding and what he

1631
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: needs to do to improve as a slider. Uh, Mark,

1632
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: I think you probably wrote fifteen or seventeen posts about

1633
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: his sliding as well. That was a major subplot coming

1634
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: out of his rookie season and even during it. I think,

1635
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: yeah back then, like you wouldn't cover a story once

1636
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: it would be like this, this this person's name is

1637
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: taking off in terms of clicks. We're going to cover

1638
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: this angle, the sliding, the RG three um being asked

1639
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: out by Kim Kardashian at one point, I believe I

1640
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: wrote an article on I mean, it was just like

1641
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: everything r G three is getting on that website and

1642
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: he was married at the time. It was like he

1643
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: said yes to Kim and he was married. Now that's

1644
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember if that's true or not. All right,

1645
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: there you go, Week thirteen, how about that week twelve teen?

1646
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: Who knows what it is. We'll be back on Friday.

1647
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: Excuse me, see everything's everything is tough now, everything's difficult

1648
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: to discern. We'll be back on Sunday with the flagship

1649
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,839
Speaker 1: program where we recap every game we just previewed. Uh, Chris,

1650
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: A real treat here to have you in the back

1651
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: end of the preview program. My pleasure, guys. Thanks for

1652
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: having me absolutely second, sir, and thank you everybody. Make

1653
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: sure you check out our NFL Network program that airs

1654
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: Saturday repeatedly, including right and you know pre dawn. That's

1655
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: you know we They asked us, when do you want

1656
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: your show to air? We said, Saturday morning, six am.

1657
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: And they they, So that's that's the first airing. Check

1658
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: it out. This is Dan hands a signing off for

1659
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood Pine,

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01:22:32,760 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: the Virtual Glass until Sunday