WEBVTT - Call It With Harry Shum Jr. 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.800 Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:19.000 an iHeartRadio podcast. Well, hello, hello, Hello, Hello, call It crew, 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.600 and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is? 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.759 Call It What? Call It a Very Special Grades Anatomy guest, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:31.800 we have a guy. God, what are we gonna do? 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.880 Just like here, look good? Just my makeup? Look Okay? 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.360 Oh my god, I know we have a man on board. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:39.120 You know what. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.080 Because we have a man, we got to ask the 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.879 boy question, which is does Harry think the boys and 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.600 girls oh can just be friends? 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:47.839 Yeah? 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.839 Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, you really you're hanging on 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.479 to that. You need it all I need? 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.240 I need all that. Listen, I'm gonna keep it going. Yep, 0:00:54.280 --> 0:01:02.000 okay going. We have Harry Harry Shum Jr. And when 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.200 he joined our cast, I had not worked with him before. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:12.600 And what an incredible actor, incredible light he brings. He 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:17.720 is so fun, he's the kindest, he's he's a quadruple 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.640 million threat. And he plays Blue, an intern on our 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.720 show right now who is entangled in a lot of 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:30.080 romance entangling and is our cocky intern. He has a 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.520 lot of really funny one liners and I got to 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.840 say that. From the first table read with him. I 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.840 was like, yep, I can see where the cast him. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.920 I love that. Oh an instant magic. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.200 I don't mind a slow burn, but I like a 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.399 little instant magic too. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.240 He a little instant magic. And I text him and 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.120 I was like, will you come on the podcast? And 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.240 he was like yes, and so here we are. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:54.720 Here, we are. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.520 We're bringing the heat, We're bringing the sexy, We're bringing 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.520 the hair vice Harry Spice, let's bring in the hairy. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.640 I think let's bring them in and we can get 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.360 into it because I have a list of five million questions. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.919 Oh my god, we just did a little intro about you. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.040 We did what we did amazing. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.040 I mean it's just the list goes on and on. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.280 It's like, I don't think it's not a single threat, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:28.760 not a double, not a triple. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.520 It's more than a quadruple. It's almost annoying. What don't 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.880 you do? And also you've won awards for it. Can 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.840 not only do it, but you win awards for it, You've. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:40.840 Been nominated you. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:45.200 I mean, it's it is. I read your resume in preparation. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.880 I mean, I know you, but I want to throw 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.639 a good she read about you. She knows you, but 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:51.880 she also read about you. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:54.400 I am honored. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.440 I also honored when you when you asked me, I 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.040 was like, yeah, I've listened to the podcast and it's 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.440 so wonderful. And I remember, you know when when you 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.600 told us in the group text that you were doing, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.239 and I just thought it was it was perfect, especially 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.440 youtubes getting to meet you Jessica very recently, you know, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.359 when you came back, it was it's just so neat 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.320 to be talking to y'all. And you know, one thing 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.120 I want to add to that, which is actually my 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:23.320 prouder moment right now. Beyond all is clean. I don't 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:24.600 know what I'm telling you, guys. I was on the 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.840 roof this morning cleaning out the gutters of my house 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.000 and I was very proud of it. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.800 I was like, yes, look at those look at these 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:33.840 pristine gutters. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:34.280 Right now. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.040 Anyways, it was really good. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.000 Excited about As you get older, though, yeah, as you 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.640 get only are like, look at those gutters. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:46.480 Like I said, sexy gutter talk. He's cleaning his own gutters. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.200 Do you understand how sexy that is? We need picture, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.000 This could be a whole calendar. Actually, next level, I'm doing. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.040 Crab walks like on the slanted roots and making sure. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.280 I know oh oh yeah, I bet there was a 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.840 song on and it was like in time too, because 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:08.920 we know where you started, and maybe a drone camera 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.160 that was getting it edit together. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.560 Done that. Ye. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.080 Next time, we told the fans that you were coming. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.240 We told the listeners, the call at crew, we call 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.000 them the crew know you were coming, and they asked 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.920 a lot of questions. So if you don't mind, we 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:26.960 got to dive in. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:28.840 I'm scared, but I really no. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.960 No, let me let me tell you because I've seen 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.680 a peek around the corner. You have nothing to be 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.320 afraid of. You have nothing to be afraid of. If 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.400 the questions that are coming to you came to me, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.680 I would feel like I was doing something right. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.040 Yeah. Can I start with the one that I love 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.960 the most? Okay, go start with one. Do you love 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.559 the mask? Because it's just really to the point. Yeah, Harry, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:50.599 why are you so fine? 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:52.360 We do that? 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.200 It is a legit question. That's a question. Is there 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.480 a skincare routine? 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:57.320 They want to know? 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:02.360 That's a different question. Oh, but I answer the first question, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.640 which is why are you so fine? 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.400 How do you even answer that? I mean, I'm my 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.000 mental being is fine. Emotionally I'm fine. I don't know 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.440 if that helps with everything. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.600 Else, like how your mother probably had something to do 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:17.320 with it, my. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.040 Mother and father, and I'll say skincare routine is definitely 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.080 my wife. I was, I was washing my face with 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.359 bars of soap like just you. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:27.720 Know, just just dudes do. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.240 And yeah, it was gonna say very manly. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:35.200 Water you know water, water is nice and no moisturizer 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.960 because you know you drink water, I guess, and that 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:39.640 that thought process. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:41.280 So I don't know if that. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.120 If I didn't have that, I probably would have been 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:53.360 I don't even know how actually fine, the fine lines 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:53.719 would have. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:58.520 Shown yeah fine versus fine lines. Okay, I've asked my question. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.640 I love that is that really was a question. That's 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:08.480 really funny. Okay, a lot of Glee questions, Yeah, okay, okay, 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.120 so can we I want to know personally how what 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.240 the casting process was for Glee because I and then 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.520 you told me a story about what your character initially 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.800 got bought on for, and then how like the trajectory 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.680 of being on the show for a long time. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.240 Yeah, you know, it's weird. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.320 You try to look at everything in hindsight and you 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.320 think it was you know, it was meant to be. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.480 These things happened, But honestly, I shouldn't have been there. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.320 I shouldn't have been where I was. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.440 You know, most of the time, is it's luck right 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.719 when you're you're When we talk about this, there's always 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.560 a debate like is it luck or is it preparation? 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.760 Is it? Like? What what? What? 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:45.280 What is it? 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:45.720 You know? 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.640 And and and for that, I was in very on 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.039 a Saturday. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.760 My grandma passed away that week and I went up 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:00.760 to a funeral, uh to San Francisco and with my family, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.960 and I get a call. I was like, well, there's 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.360 this audition for this show Glee. And I was like, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.480 I don't know what it is. And Ryan Murphy, I 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.640 wasn't too familiar with him. I didn't watch Nip Tuck 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.880 and and my my wife was I was like, hey, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.200 have you heard the show Glee? And I was like, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.360 I think you worked on something. So she worked on 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.480 as a dancer on the pilot, and she and it 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.920 was it was She's like, so many dancers worked on it. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:24.920 It's a singing show. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.240 And I was like I don't sing, and I was like, well, 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.800 they want you to dance, and I was like okay. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.800 And then and then I went in and read some 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:37.160 lines for it was meant for Finn, which Cory Monte's character, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.320 and I read his line, you know, his sides, and 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:42.200 it was auditioned. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.200 I had to sing. I sang Love by Nat King 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.240 Cole because that was what was I guess, do you 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:49.080 have to sing it? Like? 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.000 Was there any like pianists in the room. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.160 With you or was it just like it was a 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:52.760 a capella? 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.960 Yeah? Yeah, And that was like kind of like a 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.280 like a talk songy like like you could kind of 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.680 mess around. I was like, I'm spelling words. I was like, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.640 I can't mess this up the lyrics because I was 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.800 always definitely afraid of messing with Like if I can. 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.000 Spell love, I'm okay. And then I say that they're 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.239 just like okay, cool. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.600 Was Ryan Murphy in the room when you did the audition? 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:15.320 It wasn't it. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.680 Robert Oulrich, who you know, was a big big you 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.520 know which of you cast cast out grays as well? 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:27.080 And he, you know, he really really helped me out 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:28.520 through it because I didn't know what was I was 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.480 auditioning for usually when you you don't know fully, but 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.040 even as a character, I was like, this is not 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.600 for a character that I'm basing it off of nothing. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:36.920 Really. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.400 Yeah, it was also I feel like that I feel 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.640 like we hadn't really seen a show like that on TV. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:43.640 Absolutely. Yeah. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.000 It's also the tone of the show. It's like hard 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.160 to figure out before it's airing because it wasn't airing yet, right, 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:49.480 this is. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.160 And it was sort of one of the first of 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.040 its I mean, I feel like that's what I came 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.000 after it. But yeah, I mean I can imagine it 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.960 being hard to imagine. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.480 Yeah, the last show that attempted to do this or 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.719 did this was a cop Rock. I believe from what 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.079 I heard, you know, that that went full on like 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.040 musical as a TV show. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.439 And I might be wrong. I'm you know, there's other 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.719 shows that came out that had musical elements. Oh my god. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.800 Yeah, I feel like the blueprint for it, in my 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.880 mind would have been Fame. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.800 Yeah, and that was before that was I think that 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.240 was before then and cop Rock. You got a YouTube 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.760 cop Rock. It's it's fascinating. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.360 It's like, is this a show that made it to air? 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.040 It made it to air. I think it was CBS. Yeah, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.319 and it's cops singing about the criminal. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.800 It's like, how many seasons did this show have? 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.320 Oh? Very I think it barely made it past. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.520 The season just because I don't I don't know. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.439 It's actually fascinating and it was actually really good. It 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.959 was just jarring for I think the public was like, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:47.559 why are these cops singing? 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.800 But it makes sense. The high schoolers are singing, I know, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.160 and it's a Greek club. It's a Greek club. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.800 But it's also just the most perfect that there's very 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:02.480 I mean, clearly they're successful, but these new ways of 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.839 imagining things and these showrunners that come up with these 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.920 perfect environments for so much story, right, Like you come 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.040 up with the Glee Club and you pack it full 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:17.880 of all these characters with backstories that put them as such, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:23.559 unlikely friends, as such, unlikely like combinations, but they're. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.840 All bound by this. I'm in a high school experience, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.000 which is everyone is untethered. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.040 And then I think that the thing that I just 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.960 thought was so genius was you're taking all this incredibly 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.480 familiar and beloved music, so. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.720 It's not like you you know, I mean, how much 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.760 money did they spend on getting those songs? I mean 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:43.199 a lot. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.360 I just didn't understand sometimes I would like, how do 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.480 we how are we getting these? So I mean it's the. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.000 Power of like, you know, one thing I want to 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.600 say to it was written. The first season was written 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:58.480 by three people, like it was just Ryan, Brad and Ian. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.240 They were the right, they were the writer's room, like 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.880 they were turning these out and and which allowed like 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.719 you know, the humor to be what it was, the 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.120 storylines to be what they were because you know, they 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.520 it was between the three of them, and you know 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.200 it is I guess you know in UK that they 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.240 have you know, one shot, one writer basically writing most 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.240 of the show. So it felt kind of that energy 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:22.920 kind of going back and forth. But on top of it, 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.719 the songs having it was relevant to the storyline. And 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.480 and then these not just the original like they were 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.640 popular songs, And I think it was the full force 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.480 of like, you know, the twentieth century and and really 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.679 coming in and saying, hey, we're going to double down 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.679 and make sure you guys get exactly what what is 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.839 needed as far as the songs go. So that was 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.920 that was really neat to be around that, and and 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.000 also songs that I've never heard in my life that 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.920 were popular. I was a learning experience for me too, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.839 Like I wasn't a Broadway kid, so like learning a 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.960 lot of these Broadway songs through that show was fascinating. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.400 And while having Christian channel with in front of us. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.080 Scene we had heard on the show, we had show 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.240 It's amazing, She's the best. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.520 Now that I've dipped back into my Glee love, I 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.040 just needed this is something I wondered. I don't understand 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.079 how you all had enough hours in the day to 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.600 do what you needed to do, because normally, when we're 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.120 on a show, we get a scene and when we rehearse, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.960 and the rehearsal takes usually not upwards of fifteen twenty 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.360 minutes to rehearse, and then we put down the marks 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.240 and then we go get finished getting ready, and we 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.280 come back and we shoot the scene. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:45.600 But you all have. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:53.920 Sometimes incredibly complicated dance numbers. You're lip syncing to playback 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.120 like you're also acting in a scene. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.000 Like how did those days go? 0:12:59.240 --> 0:12:59.880 Were they just never? 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:01.720 Did you rehearse separately? 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.160 Did you? 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.600 I do want to know this. I heard rumors at 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.880 the time where that you guys are working weekends. I 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.240 remember hearing that, like the Glee class work weekends. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.400 I will say, and you know, I haven't been on 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.280 every show like no one, no one has. But I 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.640 would say from other people also saying who have worked 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.680 on many many shows during that time, is this was unprecedented? 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.559 Like it was there's no other show that did this? 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.080 What you if you were, you know, shooting these long 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.120 sequences with when you're talking about the dance sequences, they 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.840 would take six seven hours just to shoot one song, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.080 sometimes sometimes a whole day, and then you might fill 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.000 in one scene and then if you have double up days. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.280 My gosh, like that was nuts. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.199 But then you'd also have to dip into rehearsals and 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:54.520 sometimes rehearsals just imagine trying to schedule the whole cast 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.319 to get on this rehearsal and you might only have 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.079 two hours or an hour, and a lot of times 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.240 you might have an hour. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.520 Or two before you shoot. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.280 So you know, when you think you come in at 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.400 at you know, six am to put makeup on, think 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.400 about coming at like five am to learn the dance 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.720 that you have to perform that same day. Sometimes because 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.680 that was the only way that the puzzle pieces would 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.440 work together. And it took like a lot of honestly 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.280 talented crew to be able to say, this is the 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.440 only way that is going to work, and let's all 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.560 like try and make this happen. Meanwhile, you know a 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.000 lot of the cat I didn't have to do that 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:32.640 as much because I didn't sing as much on the 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.480 on the show, but like the other cast members that 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.960 did had to go and do pre records and then 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:38.800 come back and shoot. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.240 Like it was just a lot going on. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.480 Where you guys were filming on your set. Were you 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.360 able to record songs there or did you have to 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:47.520 go to a different location. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.440 So they'd have to go sometimes to Jim Henson. Sometimes 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.680 it would it would bounce around, so you'd have to 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.760 go somewhere else. Because we shot on Paramount, you know, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.560 it only so much can be done there, you know, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.160 and we'd have we'd have tin Shed, which was a lot. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.800 It was like one of those smaller rehearsal spaces and 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.280 and you know, as as the numbers got bigger, we 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.720 had to get a bigger space that allowed us. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.000 That was that took over half a stage. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.800 I think we took over like four stages for the show, 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.720 which is similar to kind of grades Grays does that 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.960 you know, and and so that that looked very familiar 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.160 to me. But the fact that Paramount they just took 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.280 a big chunk of it was I look at that 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:27.600 and it was like a boot camp. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:28.920 It was just so it was so neat. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.720 It was chaotic, but also neat to look back, because 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.320 it prepared me. And I'm talking about uh and I 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.560 think for a lot of us to just like everything 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.200 else becomes a little easier just because. 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.640 Well, guess what, I was a viewer and I appreciated 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.080 every single second of it. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.200 I loved it, loved it. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:48.560 Loved it. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:50.680 I want to go back to you audition though really quick. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.120 So you did your audition and. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.160 Then what happened The real, the real skinny here is 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:00.080 that they needed to dance. They needed two dancers to like, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.520 they needed to cast two dancers because a lot of 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.680 the actors, they they didn't come from dance background. You know, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:07.840 they didn't have a dance background. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.360 There are an incredible performers, incredible singers, so the focus 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:13.200 wasn't on dancing. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.880 And you know a lot of times when they're I 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.040 would say, even forced to dance, to put these numbers 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.600 together on such a short period of time. Usually just 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.480 imagine if you like, say, hey, you need to learn 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.920 this dance, you can perform it tomorrow, like in these 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.600 full on numbers, and not just one, but like three, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.160 you know, and we're not talking about heavy quirest but 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.360 even just like walking here, moving here, and these things 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.960 while remembering your lines, while remember of the song. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.240 It's it's a lot to take in. So I was 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.520 really hired along with another cast member. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:52.000 I'm as as just someone who can they can either 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.040 cut away to or like be in the front so 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.320 they can also follow along and play a sort of 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:58.240 a side character. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.000 So that's what I was kind of told as far 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:06.280 as like one of the uz Zach Woodley choreographer. And 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.880 then it just kind of took its own shape when 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.120 I when I booked it, I didn't know how long 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.960 I was gonna be there. I thought I booked one episode, 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.159 and then you know, I knew Heather Morris, and I 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:22.800 knew Kevin McHale and Diana Agron from just you know, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.080 being around town, and and then we just you start 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.560 to form this relationship and everyone just starts to really 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.640 feed off each other's energy. And it was so cool 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.240 because I was like, we all knew what we were 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.360 to this group and that was neat and we accepted 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.600 each other for that but also moved in that way. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.520 And I just I always remember that that being such 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:49.040 a beautiful energy and and you know, for me, I 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.280 was it's a singing show. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.040 But then like Ryan Murphy saying, hey, I'm. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.240 Gonna I'm gonna put the song in there and you're 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.080 gonna sing it and it's about you not being able 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.480 to sing, and I was like, Okay, I did do that. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.800 And then going to pre record, going through that process 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.280 and then like going through vocal training, learning and being 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.080 around it was just it was a very magical experience 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:10.399 in that record. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.520 Yeah, and then you just because you're you're just a 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:13.960 kid again. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.119 You know, you're playing high school at twenty something again 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.840 and get to relive that. Yeah, you get to relive that, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.840 and but doing it in a way where it's on 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.080 this grand stage and you know, and even off off 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.560 the show going being able to do these tours. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.159 I know you guys toured in your hiatus. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.280 Yeah, we toured on a hiatus. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.119 We we we So you know when you say it 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.040 was like back to back, but it's kind of crunched 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.640 up into like this experience that you probably never have again. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.240 You know, we just we just we just won't you know. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.439 We were we sold out O two and I mean, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.320 oh yeah, the O two in London. Yeah. 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.320 Three, we had three sold out shows and we like 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.280 broke a record for the most foot traffic and the 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.000 O two and that was the three days that Michael 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.440 Jackson was supposed to reform before he passed away. So 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.080 it's like all these little things that we get to 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.280